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Build Or Break The Podcast From Daniel Lubetzky Creator Of The Kind Bar · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: It really is about having fun, exploring, and finding things
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  Speaker 1: out that you didn't know so you can say, oh, wow,
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to share this. It's what we do
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  Speaker 1: on Arrow.net, 21 different podcasts, A-R-R-O-E.net. One of our big
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  Speaker 1: ones right now is a thing called Music's Lost History.
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  Speaker 1: You know the music, you know the artists, but can
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  Speaker 1: you name them if I give you the hints? Name
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  Speaker 1: them before we share them with you. Arrow.net, A-R-R-O-E.net. Enjoy
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  Speaker 1: your exploration. Daniel, I got to tell you something right
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  Speaker 1: from the very beginning here on how your podcast has
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  Speaker 1: been effective with me. And today was one of those
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  Speaker 1: days where Microsoft looked at me and said, who are
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  Speaker 1: you again? And I swear to the Holy Bible that
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  Speaker 1: your podcast has helped me over the past two to
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  Speaker 1: three weeks in the way of understanding how how that
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  Speaker 1: there is no real such thing as failure that you
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  Speaker 1: can grow from it. So your podcast is very active.
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  Speaker 1: And I just think this is so weird that this
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  Speaker 1: is happening today.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. It's so blessed to be with you. And
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  Speaker 2: I am looking at the logo of your show. You
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  Speaker 2: look like a superhero.
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  Speaker 1: Not a superhero. How about a super connector? Somebody who
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  Speaker 1: believes that the that the guest or the client is
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  Speaker 1: first before. Well, you know, because to me, that's where
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  Speaker 1: productivity begins, is that I have to understand who my
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  Speaker 1: client is first. Do you believe in that theory?
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  Speaker 3: I very much believe and figured it out of kind
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  Speaker 3: that you have to always understand that you have to
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  Speaker 3: be a servant to your consumers, to your people.
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  Speaker 2: And if you do that, then you figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: When I was starting my first company, I was making
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  Speaker 2: so many mistakes.
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  Speaker 3: And that's, by the way, what Build or Break the
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  Speaker 3: new podcast is about, about what lessons you can draw
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  Speaker 3: from your setbacks.
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  Speaker 2: But in my first company, I just wanted to grow
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  Speaker 2: and sell.
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  Speaker 3: And it had a good mission, but I didn't understand
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  Speaker 3: what you said, that you really need to be thinking,
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  Speaker 3: what does my consumer want and how can I develop
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  Speaker 3: a long-term relationship to really serve them and do what
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  Speaker 3: they need and what they want? Once you figure it
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  Speaker 3: out is how you launch kind and turn it into
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  Speaker 3: something special.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that I've learned from you from these,
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  Speaker 1: these several years is the fact that, that people aren't
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  Speaker 1: happy to see me. They're happy that I see them.
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  Speaker 1: And I picked that vibration up from you because you
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  Speaker 1: do see them first. And then we grow forward instead
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  Speaker 1: of me going, Oh, it's me.
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  Speaker 2: It's me. It's me.
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  Speaker 1: It's me. It has nothing to do with me. It's
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  Speaker 1: about them.
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  Speaker 2: I love you saying that.
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  Speaker 3: And I would just like to say that it's hard
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  Speaker 3: for all of us as human beings to remember that
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  Speaker 3: it's putting them first.
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  Speaker 2: Because my father was very good at this.
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  Speaker 3: Wherever we were at the dinner table, he always thought
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  Speaker 3: about us. I, as a former CEO of Kind and
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  Speaker 3: all these things, my ego can get the best of
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  Speaker 3: me very, very frequently.
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  Speaker 2: But when I'm at my best is when I remember that.
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  Speaker 3: That I love humanity and I love other people. And
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  Speaker 3: when I look at their eyes, they give me energy
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  Speaker 3: and I can inject a little bit of kindness and
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  Speaker 3: make their journeys better. And that's when all of us
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  Speaker 3: end up elevating ourselves. And what's really cool about Build
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  Speaker 3: or Break the podcast is that you get to meet
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  Speaker 3: some of the most extraordinary builders from everywhere. Matthew McConaughey
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  Speaker 3: to Mark Cuban, from Kendra Scott to Kevin O'Leary, and
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  Speaker 3: hear their stories like you've never heard before. And they
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  Speaker 3: open up and share with you their tools for how
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  Speaker 3: they overcame some of the biggest setbacks and turned them
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  Speaker 3: into fuel to help them win.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look at Danny Myers. My God, here's a man
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  Speaker 1: that's in the restaurant industry, which is really up, down, up, down, up, down.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know how people in the restaurant
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  Speaker 1: industry keep their cool, dude.
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  Speaker 2: And Danny Myers got an incredible journey.
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  Speaker 3: And he tells you about like when he was starting
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  Speaker 3: his first restaurant, how it didn't work out and all
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  Speaker 3: the things that happened.
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  Speaker 2: But not just that, what he did to turn it around.
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  Speaker 2: What were the lessons?
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  Speaker 3: And ultimately, he's the guy that found the Shake Shack,
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  Speaker 3: which is now a global success story.
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  Speaker 1: Please don't move. We're back with Daniel Labetsky from Shark Tank.
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  Speaker 1: And now the brand new podcast, Build or Break. He's
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  Speaker 1: coming up next. Oh, this is a great conversation, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you're part of it. Daniel Lubetzky
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  Speaker 1: from the new podcast Build or Break, but you know
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  Speaker 1: him from Shark Tank as well as The Kind Bar.
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  Speaker 1: You brought up McConaughey, and I swear to God, I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking at him more as a global leader than just
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  Speaker 1: that guy.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, all right, all right, all right.
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  Speaker 1: There's more to him than just that.
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  Speaker 3: Matthew McConaughey is, in my opinion, one of the most
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  Speaker 3: beautiful human beings I've ever met and destined to help
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  Speaker 3: inspire us in so many ways, not just with movies,
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  Speaker 3: but with his philosophy, with his writing. And in my
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  Speaker 3: conversations with him, he tells me a story about how
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  Speaker 3: when he was a kid... His mom turned him into
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  Speaker 3: a context for Little Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Texas. And he won the trophy. And all his life,
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  Speaker 2: he thought he had won Little Mr. Texas.
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  Speaker 3: And when he was writing his book, Greenlights, he looked
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  Speaker 3: at the photo.
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  Speaker 2: And he looked at the little inscription. And it says,
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  Speaker 2: runner up. He didn't win. He was runner up. And
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  Speaker 2: he goes to his mom and says, Mom, what is this?
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  Speaker 2: She says, oh, that's okay. Don't worry about it. You
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  Speaker 2: were my winner. And he talks about how.
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  Speaker 3: her believing in him and giving him so much love
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  Speaker 3: and telling him that he was little Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Texas, giving him self-confidence.
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  Speaker 3: And he talks about how you need to tell your
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  Speaker 3: own stories that are going to help you overcome those
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  Speaker 3: setbacks and continue in your life. And every one of
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  Speaker 3: the people that have been on Build or Break, we
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  Speaker 3: have dozens of extraordinary interviews with some of the most
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  Speaker 3: incredible musicians and actors and filmmakers and entrepreneurs and builders.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone had horrible things happen in their lives, but how
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  Speaker 3: they got back from it, what they learned from it,
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  Speaker 3: how they use that as a springboard for success is
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  Speaker 3: really inspiring.
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  Speaker 1: Well, see, this is the reason why I daily defrag.
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  Speaker 1: What I do is I take my entire day and
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  Speaker 1: it's like doing an air check session in radio. I
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  Speaker 1: go back and I say, okay, why did it work?
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  Speaker 1: What can we do to make it better? Do you
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  Speaker 1: defrag as well where you break things down so that
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  Speaker 1: you can have an identity of what that little piece
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  Speaker 1: of bread is that's on the path?
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to start using the word defrag. I've never
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  Speaker 3: heard that, but I love it. But yes, I do
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  Speaker 3: very much. I'm a very big believer in self-reflection and analysis.
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  Speaker 3: I don't do it as disciplined as you. I'm like
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  Speaker 3: last night, I had a very stimulating, very, very challenging
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  Speaker 3: dinner and I couldn't sleep well, which is not great,
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  Speaker 3: but I was processing so many things and then writing notes.
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  Speaker 3: That's not the best path, but one way or another,
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  Speaker 3: every single day, I'm like criticizing myself.
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  Speaker 4: It's a little bit exhausting sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: But ultimately, and it's very, very important that you learn
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  Speaker 3: the toolkit for how to separate that from your self-worth.
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  Speaker 3: That on one side, You're forgiving of yourself, particularly when
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  Speaker 3: things are not going well. Develop the toolkit for you
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  Speaker 3: to love yourself and appreciate yourself for just doing the
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  Speaker 3: best you can, for treating others with dignity and respect.
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  Speaker 2: That's all you can ask from yourself. And that's enough.
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  Speaker 2: That is literally what life is about for you to
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  Speaker 2: be a kind human being. That's what matters.
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  Speaker 3: And then separately, constantly stretching yourself for growth and analyzing
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  Speaker 3: what you could have done better without it letting impact
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  Speaker 3: how you feel about yourself. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that I've always cherished about you
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  Speaker 1: is your honesty and that kind bar, because I work
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  Speaker 1: at a grocery store, because I do love watching people
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  Speaker 1: and consumers buy things. I don't know what the sickness is,
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  Speaker 1: but I love it. And the one thing that I've
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  Speaker 1: heard most about that kind bar is trust. That's what
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  Speaker 1: people have in that bar. They know what they're going
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  Speaker 1: to get. They know there's something on the opposite side.
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  Speaker 1: There's no questions ever. So for you to build that trust,
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  Speaker 1: that takes a hell of a man, and that's you.
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  Speaker 3: What's fascinating, Arrow, about kind and the brand kind is
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  Speaker 3: literally what you said. A brand is a promise. And
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  Speaker 3: a great brand is a promise well kept. And we
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  Speaker 3: did that at Kind. We're very, very consistent about delivering
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  Speaker 3: something that was tasty.
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  Speaker 2: Healthy, and socially responsible. But guess what? I didn't do
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  Speaker 2: that all along at the beginning.
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  Speaker 3: The 10 years prior to launching Kind, I kept making
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  Speaker 3: mistake after mistake after mistake with my first company. And
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  Speaker 3: I drew the lessons from those mistakes and from those errors.
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  Speaker 3: And in Build or Break, I traced back to some
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  Speaker 3: of those mistakes that helped me learn those mistakes to
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  Speaker 3: ultimately create Kind into an iconic brand.
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  Speaker 2: And I go and interview some of the most extraordinary people.
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  Speaker 4: And tomorrow we drop the first three episodes live. with
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  Speaker 4: Chris Paul, Kendra Scott, and Kevin O'Leary, and we talked
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  Speaker 4: a little bit about all of their lessons.
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  Speaker 2: You know, on Shark Tank, Mr.
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  Speaker 3: Wonderful Kevin O'Leary, have you ever seen him cry, Arrow?
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, he's been on my show and
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  Speaker 1: he shared a tear, but I sat there and I thought, okay,
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  Speaker 1: is he acting or is it real? And I went with,
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  Speaker 1: I believe it, because yeah, he's got emotion. He's a
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  Speaker 1: real guy.
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  Speaker 3: And you if you if you listen to his interview
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  Speaker 3: on builder break you will discover a person so much
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  Speaker 3: deeper than you imagine just an extraordinary person and and
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  Speaker 3: he talks to you he opens up because what i
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  Speaker 3: like about builder break is we create an environment where
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  Speaker 3: people can be vulnerable and share their stories to inspire
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  Speaker 3: millions about their journeys and and kevin like He got
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  Speaker 3: very emotional. I've never seen him get as emotional and
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  Speaker 3: as open and as vulnerable as he did.
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  Speaker 2: And it was really beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: And I do think that part of life is being
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  Speaker 3: comfortable putting yourself in uncomfortable positions. And that's what Build
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  Speaker 3: or Break teaches you from inspiration from many other amazing stories.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so proud that you did this podcast and you've
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  Speaker 1: got to come back anytime in the future. The door
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  Speaker 1: is always going to be open. It is about that listener.
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  Speaker 1: It is about that consumer and you get it. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm just so proud of you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you i really appreciate i hope to meet
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  Speaker 1: You one day you be brilliant today okay sir thank
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  Speaker 1: you