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Sister Wives S6 E13 - Boys Night Out · My Sister Wives Podcast

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  What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
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  Goodbye. You.
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  Shut it off. Do not twist my words.
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  Do not make me a victim, sweetie.
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  Just look at the mountain. That's what you.
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  Saw. That day.
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  Just the knife in the kidneys over all these years and the
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  sacrifices that I made to love
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  Hello everyone, Welcome back to my Sister Wives podcast.
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  We're going to start this episode a little different.
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  We're going to do a little housekeeping.
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  A little. Public service announcement for
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  our valued listeners. You may have noticed that
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  recently we had a Keep Sweet moment that was repeated 1
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  episode after another and Oh my gosh.
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  So I'm going to volunteer right up front.
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  That means that we talked about it twice, I edited it twice, I
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  sent it to Kimber both times and
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  And maybe it was on your listens
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  were aware of this? It was post that I was listening
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  randomly another time to the first episode that it was on and
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  I was like no I remember the ending being different than that
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  and saying something different
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  realized. So when you pointed this out to
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  me, I was going, Oh my gosh, this is crazy.
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  I'm going, is Kimber like, you
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  What does that even mean? And then you said something
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  about the piggy pliggy tootsies.
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  And I said, well, yeah, that's when we did it.
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  And then I realized, no, that's not one of the times that we did
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  listened, and you were right. And I thought, how on God's
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  green earth could this have even happened?
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  I mean, not to make it sound like we're perfect or anything,
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  we are. We are just a couple of deadbeat
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  possible? But we did have a delay because
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  you were under the weather. And part of me is thinking,
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  well, maybe there was just something with having had a
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  break in between our recording sessions and maybe there was too
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  remember. But this is kind of crazy.
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  I mean, I don't even know. I think we just really liked the
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  Keep Suite. It was a very touching thing and
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  we really liked that one we did.
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  We talked about it quite a bit on our own as well, and we just
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  resonated with it, you know? Let's go with that.
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  It was so moving. We loved it so much that we had
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  to do it twice. I think that totally makes
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  sense. It's not the fact that for some
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  weird reason, who gave these two Muppets microphones and
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  we're just tutoring through the day.
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  It's not that. That's not it bumping around
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  here. That's funny, especially hot off
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  the heels of the ending of that episode where I was like, this
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  is a whole new low for us. And literally it was in more
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  than one and we didn't even know
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  Wow. So anyway, apologies for anyone
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  who would be offended if you were offended.
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  That's pretty sad and you should
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  It's just a sad, sad example of how great we are at this.
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  So thank you everyone for coming
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  Back to the important business
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  Season 6, episode 13 of Sister
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  This is not our first boys night
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  sure if it's our last. I mean this boys night out
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  pissed me off more than the first one that's for sure.
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  The first one was more wholesome, this one not so much.
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  Wow, buckle up listeners, this
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  I did want to start with mentioning the previously on
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  'cause you have been on a previously on and a coming up
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  Bender of sorts recently. And I just wanted to say that on
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  the previously on for this episode, Kody did have his
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  famous demons out moment demons out.
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  And it made me very happy. And it brings me a sick, sad and
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  pathetic joy. And I'm not well and I'm OK
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  acknowledging that. So thank you for thank you for
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  listening to me, everybody. I do love that that was one of
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  the recap clips that they pulled
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  Demons out. Well, for this episode we start,
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  as we have so many times, with
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  Opening with the adults on the
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  their family changes over the recent years.
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  Robyn joining the family, Julian
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  into Vegas and into their rentals, and now moving into
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  their new homes. We don't have to give any more
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  details than that, do we? No, it's just another clue here
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  that this might have been meant to be a season opener that
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  they're recapping that far back again.
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  It's just kind of an odd thing
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  I know that. The point is they're bringing
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  this up because they're going to
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  ceremony and why they're doing it.
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  Because of all these changes over the last couple of years.
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  ourselves in front of family and friends.
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  But it also feels like the start of a season, too.
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  I see what you mean, it does have a early episode in a season
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  times in reality TV where we see couples having vow renewal
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  The kiss of death. Yeah.
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  Like if you're going to have your vows renewed on TV, you're
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  probably going to get divorced pretty soon.
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  And that's the roll of the dice on that one.
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  Not even a roll of the dice. Like the odds are not in your
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  favor if you're going to do that.
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  I have heard that I think in real life, the only instances
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  that I've and I don't even really know someone personally
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  But from what I have gathered, it is more for people that had a
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  celebrating 10 years or 20 years and so they decide to do some
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  sort of ceremony because they didn't for the first one.
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  So I could see it if that was the case.
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  But these guys, it's another Band-Aid on a wound, A
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  festering, gaping wound of the Brown family.
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  They're yes, the Browns gaping wound.
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  The Browns gaping wound and it has become infected and they're
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  trying anything they can with those band aids losing.
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  I'll stop using describing words for that.
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  Let's describe the pus a little more good.
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  You know this is just another one of their little band aids,
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  polygamist families don't do this.
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  Oh, I think most families period don't do this, but OK, whatever.
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  with a precious gem. Honey, did you happen to capture
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  the sentence that Robyn uttered?
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  No, I was too blown away by Christine's hot pink maxi dress
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  at that moment. The maxi dress.
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  What did she say? Tell us.
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  Robyn has a few just magical, magical things to say in this
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  episode. And the first one here, hot off
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  the heels of starting the episode, is, excuse me, let me
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  figuring it out as we go as she smirks and shrugs and kind of
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  goes like, and it's like, what are you even saying?
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  We sort of kind of just figuring it out as we go.
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  Like, thanks, Robyn. That's life, isn't it Robyn?
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  That's just the fucking life. I was adding those details that
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  really brings a story to life, that Robyn.
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  There are a lot of dumb Robyn quotes in this episode and we
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  usually get a lot, but there are there are so many in this one
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  that just took the cake for me. Yeah, she was in rare form on
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  this one. Yeah, Christine's hot pink maxi
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  dress just distracted me so much.
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  I missed that one, that's for sure.
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  She was sitting on the end and she's wearing this, a long hot
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  her on the end then, because like, you can see the full dress
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  it. And then I noticed because I was
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  bottle, just a plastic water bottle, sitting on the ground by
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  her feet. Thanks, puddle Monkey.
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  Losers. I'm glad I didn't notice that I
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  would. I mean, I shouldn't say I'm
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  glad, but I'm not surprised. And Janelle finally got some low
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  Janelle's hair. I don't know if it was the color
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  lighting or you know, the tones of the light in the episode, but
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  Did they to you as well? I think her hair is naturally
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  really like white blonde so if she is going Gray now they it's
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  hard to add tone to that light of hair.
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  And there was a big chunk behind her bang almost the stylist
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  didn't know what to do or didn't do them fine enough for the
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  texture of hair that Janelle has that like her fluff that she
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  has. So she got some low lights.
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  I don't know that it was much of an improvement on anything.
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  I just kind of felt like it looked as though she added some
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  dark grey in almost and it was just kind of strange.
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  But you know she's. Trying.
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  She's trying. She's trying now in.
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  Preparation for this upcoming ceremony where they're going to
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  not renew their commitments to each other but celebrate their
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  venues for their big family event.
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  So exciting and the adults arrive at Emerald at Queens
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  Ridge. Like.
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  Emerald at Queens Ridge, what a name for a event venue.
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  We do get to meet the manager of this fabulous venue named Ken
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  Kimball. Ken, Ken Kimball.
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  Christine starts them off here, letting them know that they are
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  all married to him and points right at Kody.
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  They're talking about how they're there to do a
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  recommitment ceremony, and Christina has to point this out,
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  this. She likes to point out that
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  they're all married to Kody, especially when they're in an
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  instance like this, because she gets to gauge their reaction and
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  I do get that she does it in a way that is jokey and silly,
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  which is a little uncomfortable, but I can understand why you'd
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  But she is just something it's. Like a combination of wanting to
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  like you know? She gets.
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  Yeah. She loves the reaction.
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  Yeah, Ken tells them. We do all kinds of ceremonies.
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  the government. We're capitalists.
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  We're here to make money, which they all laugh at and laugh.
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  You know. It's like, yeah, OK, I
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  appreciate the sentiment. Thank you very much.
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  Ken, we get. Another gem from Robyn.
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  She goes. Have you ever had a polygamist
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  Robyn? Think he would have led with
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  that? OK.
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  Right once he. Figured out that you were
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  polygamists. He might have volunteered that
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  solver, Robyn, we have a couch moment where Kody clarifies for
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  us that this is not a vow renewal.
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  So this is what's funny is up until now, I know that I've
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  personally been saying recommitment ceremony.
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  And then I noticed in this episode how many times they say
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  commitment ceremony. And so I'm going, OK, well, I
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  guess I don't know if I was, you know, making them sound terrible
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  spiritual union that they have. It's a religious marriage and
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  that. Oh, no, OK, this one has to be
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  well? 1st, I want to say that Kody
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  starts starts everybody off by saying it's very in vogue right
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  now to renew your vows. It's very popular.
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  It starts by saying it's in vogue in.
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  Vogue. God, I'm going.
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  To have to inaugurate the word en vogue into my daily, you
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  know, vernacular, I think. Hot.
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  Off the heels of Kody letting us know what's en vogue right now
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  Got going. On here.
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  You know, not everyone that gets married.
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  It's not necessarily a spiritual union.
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  It's not necessarily a religious marriage, But you're not exactly
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  spirituality or religious practice.
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  Like, give me a fucking break. She is so fucking dumb.
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  Yeah. Kody gets very defensive about
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  Those are eternal. We don't need to redo those.
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  Like it would be insulting to redo those he's inferring here.
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  I don't understand how that
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  would be insulting. Isn't that?
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  That is literally what this is
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  When people do a commitment ceremony, it's about renewing
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  your vows and recommitting to each other.
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  I don't understand the difference here because they're
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  saying that this is about them
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  other as a family, not renewing their vows necessarily as
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  married couples. But isn't it kind of the same?
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  Isn't it semantics? I don't know.
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  Yeah, it. Feels like splitting hairs to
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  me. That's why I was saying I you
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  know, I don't think I need to be
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  recommitment ceremony when they are adamant that it is a
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  commitment ceremony. Like OK, like it's like potato,
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  potato, you know, it's like OK, sounds good.
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  They. Pick such weird things to get
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  defensive over. It's another one of those things
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  that they're getting defensive
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  anything, Nobody said anything.
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  You're the 1:00 calling attention to it totally.
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  Yeah. No one would probably even
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  notice that they weren't talking about it.
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  Ken, the venue manager, shows them the hall, which is, you
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  know, big banquet space or event space, whatever.
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  And then they head outdoors, and Janelle says that she envisions
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  their event happening outdoors. They go, and they stand by some,
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  whatever. It's like OK.
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  That looks too perfect and weird
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  It definitely did not look like a place that you would want to
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  take photos and it would look all beautiful.
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  It would look like T move version of a pretty place, you
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  know it. Was very man made looking Meri.
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  Points out that they haven't gotten on the same page about
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  what this event should be, which
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  thinking different things. And I'm just going, Oh my God,
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  when are you ever on the same page about anything?
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  These people never talk about anything.
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  And so of course, we're not surprised.
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  Yeah. She says.
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  I don't think that this venue is
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  It's more for weddings. It's more for a big wedding.
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  Yeah. You think?
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  Yeah. Yeah, that's basically what it
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  looks like. They.
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  Can't agree on the type of party.
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  Is what one of them says on the couch.
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  OK, can't agree on the type of
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  You can't even agree what type
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  So I don't understand what's happening here and what are the?
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  Variables of the party like one of them saying I want it to be
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  80's rock band theme and another
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  different like it's like how big
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  even be on opinions about a commitment ceremony I mean I.
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  Don't know very. Strange everything.
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  Is difficult for these guys. Everything just has to be so
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  difficult that it boggles my mind and makes me feel stupid
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  sometimes because I think I'm overthinking it then because I'm
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  so confused as to why it's difficult for them right?
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  It's like, what am I missing here?
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  And it's like you're not missing
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  They're missing some brain cells.
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  We. Find out that The Venue The
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  starting cost for The Venue is
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  package. So that includes the catering,
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  the ceremony, reception area, the cake I believe they said.
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  Or not even the cake for that one, no.
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  Cake. Christine, I think, asks the
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  cake and he says no, no. So that's the star and
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  everything. Else, yeah, before we learn
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  about the financial details, we do get a little split moment of
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  Kody doing some moonwalking and bad dancing on the dance floor
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  in the event space. And I just wanted to point it
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  out because everyone is kind of Half Moon standing around just
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  watching him as he's putting on his own little show for his
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  wives and Ken. And it wasn't the most tragic
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  thing I've ever seen, but it's
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  It's like, what are you doing?
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  Him very like when they tasted
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  Robyn's wedding and he stood up and did his little like cha cha
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  dance that was awkward at that
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  Pants. I never want to shame anyone for
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  having fun because if you're the
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  dancing at a concert or something and looks insane and
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  doesn't care what anyone else is
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  Enjoy your life, you live your
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  Yes. Yes, but.
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  Some of these instances where he
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  just be so embarrassed if it was
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  the gumption. Up to just be like.
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  I'm going to go out here and dork it up in front of the
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  cameras. This random guy I just met in my
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  wives. Yeah, he's.
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  Definitely desperate for attention.
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  And let's just say you did do something like that and then the
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  first time you saw it on film,
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  self, when the camera crews are here, don't do something that
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  makes me look like a pathetic person who's desperate for
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  attention. And Kody's like probably going,
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  oh, I look so cool. It's like, no you do not.
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  Yeah, no self-awareness whatsoever.
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  But. This $10,500 initial cost for an
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  event has Christine saying that it took her breath away the
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  cost because it's only the starting cost and there could
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  only be additional costs on top of that.
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  And yeah, I don't know, a venue like that, $10,000 doesn't go
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  very far. So I don't really know what they
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  It's huge. And they, they do reiterate to
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  the outdoor space. It's not like you're renting one
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  rain, sometimes these venues don't have a backup plan for
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  you. And so to me that's not that
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  much money when you're thinking about a wedding.
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  I know people that have spent like 30 K plus on weddings,
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  which I'm sorry that scares the shit out of me and I could never
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  that be the full fee for probably clean up and set that
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  That is not expensive. However, for a party where you
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  Again, that might be too much for that.
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  Yeah, they keep calling it to Ken.
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  They keep calling it a reception.
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  So I guess for an actual full on wedding, that's not that much
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  money. But if you were just say you got
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  reception somewhere, you would not expect to pay the full
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  wedding price because you didn't have your wedding there.
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  So I can see why it would be a lot, but the space is huge.
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  So I don't know. Janelle is not shocked by the
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  price and Janelle thinks that it's actually a pretty good
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  deal. But when you.
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  Have to do all of those things on your own and hire vendors and
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  that's why they have the pricing they do and level headed Janelle
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  absolutely normal price. And I first I was going, is it
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  world works? And then I'm like, no, they've
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  should not have been surprising. Kody pisses me off with what he
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  says. He says that it's about a good
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  parties, he's conservative when it comes to their parties, but
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  But Nah, we know you're really saying this party is for me.
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  And yeah, my image is at stake here.
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  I totally believe that he meant that I.
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  Do too and it's being filmed. I don't know if production paid
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  for Robyn's wedding party, who knows, but you know, it is for
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  His reputation. After he did that moonwalk on
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  the dance floor, he had to renew his reputation.
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  No, excuse me, not renew. He had to some other word that
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  not renew. Someone's yelling again.
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  Who's yelling? Somebody that's listening is
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  yelling right now at us through not knowing.
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  Because of our lack of vocabulary.
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  Yeah. OK, OK.
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  Yeah, sorry about that. Revamp his image.
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  Revive his image. Save.
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  His image Rehabilitate his image.
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  In other words, do we know? Yeah.
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  There's no, there's no rehabilitating Kody's image.
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  Absolutely not. We have a cut to the Brown
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  family cul-de-sac. Kind of a whiplash moment.
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  All of a sudden we're back at the property where Kody's friend
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  Brett's wife name is now because you know, she is a woman and
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  knowing her name is not that important.
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  Oh, do we know? They told.
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  Us right away. Oh God never has to.
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  Be I'm you. That was part of the.
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  Man, typical. Typical Chris.
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  OK, So what is her name? Darling Brett?
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  And Ava are coming to town, we find out.
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  We jump right into the background story about Kody with
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  with Brett directly before joining the AUB cult.
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  He doesn't label the AUB cult the AUB cult, but that's what we
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  Robyn's wedding is a note from me here.
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  I don't know that they have a flashback in this moment, but
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  that was a note that stood out to me as I recall him.
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  I remember him from the wedding footage.
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  Yeah, they show us flashbacks to the wedding footage a few times
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  here, and we get more of that back story later.
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  Brettt shares with us that they always joked that they are like
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  cosmic brothers. Cosmic brothers, like they were
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  meant to be together as friends.
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  It was written in the stars. They called each other their
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  cosmic brothers. So that just tells you we're
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  we're just starting to get to know their relationship here.
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  Yeah, we learn a lot. Which one do?
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  You think is the Big Dipper? And which one's the Little
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  Dipper? That's what I want to know.
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  The big. Dipper is for sure, Brett.
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  Thank you. For sure the stars have aligned.
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  My dreams are coming true. By the end of this episode, you
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  all are going to hate me because
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  OK, let's move on. Let's move on.
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  Are you for real? Oh my God.
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  Oh, listen, I'm just glad he's a
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  know, I'm a different kind of constellation.
• 25:27
  I'm special, I'm unique, and he's just one that everyone can
• 25:30
  find in the sky. So I'm OK with that.
• 25:31
  Holy. Goodness, Shawn.
• 25:33
  Janelle's trainer is also there at the cul-de-sac, and he's
• 25:36
  there to help Kody and Brett with some wrestling mats that
• 25:39
  they're going to install in the garage for Hunter.
• 25:42
  Yeah. Janelle did not realize how much
• 25:45
  space these mats were going to
• 25:48
  They are going to be wall to wall, floor to floor, floor to
• 25:54
  ceiling, over the garage door,
• 25:59
  She won't even be able to open
• 26:02
  No boxes against the walls, nothing.
• 26:05
  She. Says that she does need to be
• 26:07
  able to put some stuff in her garage.
• 26:11
  Yeah, I was just cackling as they were saying how much space
• 26:15
  like a padded room They are making an entire padded room,
• 26:21
  straight jacket type of padded
• 26:24
  It was pretty funny how they were describing it well.
• 26:28
  I'm just imagining in most scenarios.
• 26:30
  OK, this isn't a normal scenario
• 26:32
  Who's bringing home like commercial wrestling gym mats to
• 26:36
  put into the garage without clearly describing what it's
• 26:39
  going to be to their wife? But I also was thinking, how
• 26:43
  many husbands would just say, I'm going to put some mats in
• 26:45
  the garage and then it shows up and this is the situation and
• 26:48
  the wife is going, are you fucking kidding me?
• 26:49
  A lot. Of husbands would do that, a lot
• 26:52
  of them, yeah. Straight.
• 26:54
  Men are the best they. Really, really are.
• 26:57
  You would know a lot of it because you hang out with them
• 26:59
  in the manosphere all the time.
• 27:01
  So oh, that's. Right, this is actually one of
• 27:11
  Yeah, we get to hear a lot about the garages and how it should be
• 27:22
  of the manosphere, they throw Christine under the bus.
• 27:27
  Christine, hey, you've got a clean garage.
• 27:31
  What about using your garage? And then cut to Brett saying the
• 27:40
  Everybody knows that the garage is the man cave.
• 27:43
  Kody has four garages. How can't he have a garage for
• 27:49
  Also says it's universal law. It's universal law.
• 27:55
  Oh, that's my Brett. Starting out strong here, it's
• 28:06
  cosmic brothers with Kody and he loves the good man cave the
• 28:11
  eye. Does he does also have some very
• 28:14
  keen observation skills because he notices that wives aren't
• 28:18
  thinking. It's very amusing.
• 28:20
  You know, his lame jokes. They don't find him so amusing
• 28:23
  because they said that. There's a moment where they show
• 28:25
  Janelle and she's literally like
• 28:27
  her face, glancing around like, Oh my God, what are you
• 28:30
  talking about? Love that.
• 28:32
  Janelle is saying I have things that I need to have in my
• 28:36
  garage still. I cannot have this be wall to
• 28:40
  wall mats and Christine has cleaned out her garage and
• 28:46
  hasn't had anything in there for
• 28:48
  Everybody knows that her garage is clean.
• 28:50
  So she gets Volun told essentially that it's going to
• 28:55
  be her garage. And Meri is standing over there
• 28:57
  like, well I am just moving in
• 29:00
  I have so many boxes, don't even
• 29:04
  She is just trying to hide whatever the Frick is going on
• 29:07
  in that house. She doesn't want anyone over
• 29:10
  there, not even in her garage.
• 29:15
  into the garage like. Amen, Mayor.
• 29:17
  Yeah. So Christine wants to have this
• 29:20
  conversation alone with Kody, not in front of everybody who's
• 29:25
  standing around there, which I
• 29:29
  You've got Ava, you've got Brett, you've got Sean, all the
• 29:32
  other wives. And you're just bringing this up
• 29:34
  for the first time to her in front of everyone and expecting
• 29:37
  an answer. And Kody yells, you're going to
• 29:40
  blackmail me, aren't you, in front of everyone?
• 29:44
  He says that because she wants
• 29:47
  with him about being told that
• 29:52
  thing for him. There was.
• 29:54
  An editing gold moment here where when she says let's have a
• 29:56
  conversation about this and a lone conversation, OK.
• 30:00
  And there was this audio effect that was like Dun Dun like.
• 30:04
  Like the? Drama's about to unfold and
• 30:07
  that's what he says, oh, you're going to blackmail me?
• 30:08
  And she says, I'm not going to
• 30:12
  And Janelle does back up Christine.
• 30:14
  She's like, you really do need
• 30:16
  Like, yeah. You just are springing this on
• 30:18
  her, yeah. This is not some sort of
• 30:20
  dramatic theatrics from Christine which we get often.
• 30:24
  You literally need to go talk to
• 30:26
  Like come on. So.
• 30:27
  They wander off together and they go and stand in somebody's
• 30:31
  doorway. They don't even really show us
• 30:34
  whose doorway it is. We don't hear the conversation.
• 30:39
  Kody and Christine have their mics off so we're seeing
• 30:43
  Christine's back and Kody's front and they're having this
• 30:45
  conversation in a front door way
• 30:51
  from voice over and interview from Kody.
• 30:56
  And Kody says that Christine told him you're going to be a
• 31:01
  better husband, you're going to spend more time at my house.
• 31:05
  I'm going to get more grocery money.
• 31:07
  And I basically had to talk her into it.
• 31:10
  How is that you talking her into
• 31:14
  I don't know. It seems like a reasonable list
• 31:16
  considering that we know that Kody does not spend a lot of
• 31:19
  time at her house, she probably does need more grocery money,
• 31:22
  and he does need to be a better husband.
• 31:23
  So at least the list was accurate.
• 31:25
  But, you know, he has a way of
• 31:29
  it and he's a decision maker, which we get to later in the
• 31:31
  episode. You know there's.
• 31:32
  His perception of himself is somewhat altered, I would say.
• 31:36
  So let's you know, he's got to
• 31:39
  went. I.
• 31:40
  Just feel like he's such a bumbling idiot because you
• 31:43
  purposely had your mics off for this conversation so you didn't
• 31:47
  want anyone to hear or Christine
• 31:51
  hearing. And you're going to come and
• 31:54
  tell the camera in an interview what she said and it makes you
• 31:59
  look bad. She said you're going to be a
• 32:02
  better husband. You're going to spend more time
• 32:04
  at my house. As a viewer, I'm like, what is
• 32:08
  he doing? Why is she having to request
• 32:12
  these things from him? That's weird.
• 32:14
  He's. Busy pulling the weeds in
• 32:16
  Robyn's yard, you know? Yeah.
• 32:18
  Not pulling her weeds. Her garden hasn't been
• 32:22
  flourishing for a long time. He has.
• 32:24
  Not been on his knees tending to
• 32:28
  See. If me and my husband were doing
• 32:30
  some jokey, OK, if you're going to do that, I get this, I'd be
• 32:35
  saying I get foot rubs the next month every single night I get
• 32:40
  to go and pick a purse out at the Coach store, something like
• 32:44
  that. You know, it wouldn't be so
• 32:45
  serious. Like you better get your shit
• 32:47
  together. I'm going to tear these mats out
• 32:49
  one. 100, I know I would be like, I get to pick out a
• 32:52
  vacation in the next year and you have to say yes, and I'll
• 32:54
  stay stateside. It's fine.
• 32:56
  I'll keep it reasonable. But 100, it wouldn't be like,
• 32:59
  please be a better husband, father and provider.
• 33:02
  Yeah. God, he should have been
• 33:04
  embarrassed to come and say that
• 33:07
  Which calls us everything we need to know about him again.
• 33:13
  Kody. Reassures Christine that the
• 33:15
  mats will be used almost daily
• 33:18
  kids, so this is going to be a
• 33:20
  She's doing a charitable act, almost like Mark Twain said it
• 33:24
  would be for any man to marry one of those homely women,
• 33:27
  downtrodden women, the downtrodden women.
• 33:32
  And. This is great because we get a
• 33:33
  little transition here where they're backing up EU Haul to
• 33:36
  Christine's garage. I noticed EU Haul before, but
• 33:39
  you're not really connecting the
• 33:41
  this all comes together. Where?
• 33:43
  OK, EU Haul has these huge fucking Jim Manson.
• 33:47
  Huge. Do you know how heavy those
• 33:49
  things are? So.
• 33:51
  Heavy they are they? Could.
• 33:53
  Kill. A person, probably no joke, yes.
• 33:56
  So the guys start pulling these mats out of the back of EU haul
• 34:00
  into Christine's garage. And the reason that I knew they
• 34:03
  were heavy one yes, there was some visual indicators.
• 34:05
  Kody looked like he was going to
• 34:08
  whatever, fill in the blanks. But there was a lot of groaning
• 34:11
  and moaning and man noises, grunts and.
• 34:18
  Oh my gosh, we've got Brett on
• 34:21
  Sorry. We've got Brett on the front of
• 34:24
  the mat. He's holding it.
• 34:27
  It's still in the truck. Sean is pushing.
• 34:30
  Kody's dumb ass decides to get
• 34:34
  hold it up with his back. Excuse me, Sir, what the fuck
• 34:40
  were you thinking? So he's literally not even doing
• 34:45
  anything except trying to be a
• 34:48
  And then he kind of falls. I don't think he realized how
• 34:51
  heavy it was going to be. So when it goes on in me kind of
• 34:54
  falls and then decides to stand up and use his arms.
• 34:59
  Yeah, he's a bumbling fool. I don't know how to really
• 35:02
  describe these mats. I'm thinking things like a
• 35:04
  literal gym or a dance studio.
• 35:07
  commercial mats in the future.
• 35:12
  something similar again in another garage.
• 35:14
  We don't see the move in. We just see him with the mats.
• 35:17
  And it's at Robyn's house. And Robyn is like, I don't even
• 35:21
  know what we're going to do with
• 35:23
  Like, how do you clean them? Like they've been used by high
• 35:25
  schoolers for how many years? They're probably full of disease
• 35:27
  and you know, whatever. And I'm thinking these mats
• 35:30
  probably are used from a high school or something.
• 35:33
  And it's like, Oh my God, like
• 35:37
  I'm just imagining the smell and
• 35:40
  the. Athlete's foot, The Scabies.
• 35:46
  All of the things you'd want to spray a lot for, and he
• 35:49
  probably didn't spray at all. So that's Kody for you.
• 35:52
  Oh my goodness. Yeah.
• 35:53
  They're about two inches, 3 inches thick.
• 35:56
  They're girthy and they're rolled up and giant sausage of
• 36:03
  Matt that they're attempting to move on their own with three
• 36:07
  men. We get a cute sidebar from
• 36:10
  Hunter. Yeah.
• 36:12
  Oh, Hunter, he's growing up. He, you know, when you before
• 36:15
  you said there was that the Q&A,
• 36:19
  out of nowhere and the way he was sitting in the clothes he
• 36:21
  was wearing, we were talking about him looking so jockish.
• 36:23
  And that is happening more and
• 36:25
  He's got that thickness and he
• 36:28
  man. He's very if he wasn't such a
• 36:31
  sweetheart, I'd say he looks like a meathead.
• 36:32
  But I love him, so I'm like, no,
• 36:35
  He totally does. You can.
• 36:36
  Look like a meathead and be soft
• 36:40
  Yeah. I know he's like the perfect man
• 36:42
  for me, but not now because he's
• 36:45
  this from the record. It's totally pathetic and
• 36:46
  disgusting. Hunter says that Kody was a very
• 36:51
  successful wrestler and he likes
• 36:56
  his sons. He likes to wrestle with Hunter
• 36:59
  and Logan and relive his glory
• 37:05
  Hunter. Also kind of a pathetic moment
• 37:09
  for Kody. Your child saying you're going
• 37:12
  to relive your glory days. Yeah, well, hunters having this,
• 37:16
  you know, one-on-one moment out in the street, he's like
• 37:18
  standing on the cul-de-sac. He's just having a 2 camera
• 37:20
  moment. And as he's talking, they do an
• 37:22
  overlay of this picture of Kody as a teenager in a singlet
• 37:27
  wrestling a still image and a placard is imposed over the
• 37:31
  screen that says Kody Brown, 1985 state champion.
• 37:36
  This is not going to be the last
• 37:40
  glory days, his peak in life, you know, not the marriages,
• 37:43
  not his children, not having ATV show, not being America's most
• 37:46
  hated polygamist. He was state champion in 1985 in
• 37:50
  high school wrestling. So.
• 37:52
  That's. You know, and not taking that
• 37:54
  away from anybody, if you're proud of it, you're proud of it.
• 37:55
  But it's just Kody, Kody, Kody.
• 37:59
  It's. Just funny because it's him, you
• 38:04
  This is. It could actually be something
• 38:10
  valedictorian. And I'd be like, he must have
• 38:11
  paid for it. Like, he's a liar and a fraud.
• 38:18
  relive his golden years, the men start unrolling these huge
• 38:22
  wrestling bats in Christine's garage.
• 38:24
  And they're using a DeWalt electric hand saw to cut the mat
• 38:35
  So they have a hand saw. And I think it's Brett.
• 38:38
  I'm not sure one of them is sawing this thing because it is
• 38:41
  inches thick. It's commercial fucking mat.
• 38:43
  And it's so funny to see because of course, in my mind, I am a
• 38:47
  gay man who's not great with power tools, but I'm going, I
• 38:49
  hope they have that blade high enough to not be like, dulling
• 38:54
  what they're doing? Because, you know, it is Kody,
• 38:58
  And then the remnants of what was left that was out in the
• 39:01
  garage that they cut with his handsaw they take and put up
• 39:04
  against the wall. So it does make that padded room
• 39:09
  They're literally making a padded room in Christine's
• 39:11
  garage. Crazy.
• 39:14
  I don't know how they get it to stick up there, if they're
• 39:15
  nailing it to the wall or what
• 39:19
  I don't remember if it was up later or not, or if they just
• 39:22
  tried and then abandoned it. I couldn't tell you do.
• 39:24
  They really do that in padded rooms.
• 39:28
  Oh, girl, I don't know. I.
• 39:29
  Just don't get that. I thought it would just be the
• 39:31
  floor but I don't know. Yeah.
• 39:34
  I'm thinking about wrestling in the sense of like the high
• 39:36
  school wrestling, the sport. Wrestling like Kody's, you know,
• 39:39
  his peak in life. I could imagine if you're doing
• 39:42
  your shit and then you get off
• 39:45
  the wall and it would be nice for it to be padded and not.
• 39:47
  Concrete. Yeah, or whatever their, you
• 39:50
  know, drywall or whatever their shit is.
• 39:52
  So that doesn't make sense, but also makes sense to me.
• 39:55
  And I know nothing about wrestling or mats or padded
• 39:57
  rooms. I've never been in one.
• 40:00
  I've been in a padded room before.
• 40:01
  I know. Yeah, you.
• 40:04
  Might not know it from the show,
• 40:08
  Next, we get an aerial shot of
• 40:14
  different driveways in the cul-de-sac towards Christine's
• 40:19
  garage. And we get the Dun.
• 40:21
  Dun Dun Dun type. Of warrior music.
• 40:24
  They're all walking up to the garage and Christine goes
• 40:30
  welcome to my wrestling room when they all arrive.
• 40:36
  So cheesy. This is where Kody says that
• 40:39
  Brett is going to show him some Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
• 40:43
  And I thought, oh Brazilian, you
• 40:46
  of a moment here with Kody, a touching moment where his little
• 40:48
  dipper went inside of my Big Dipper and he said that he is
• 40:52
  going to be shown by Brett this Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
• 40:57
  And I was like, oh, Kody, he has
• 40:59
  the beginning of Brazilian Jiu
• 41:02
  And I thought, OK, there's someone else that does that too
• 41:05
  and my idol. So I felt included and it
• 41:10
  included and special. Gosh.
• 41:14
  So now we're going to cue the flashback montage of old photos
• 41:18
  of Kody and Brett from their youth.
• 41:20
  Oh my God. Well, they're intergalactic
• 41:23
  planetary youth. And we have a voiceover from
• 41:26
  Kody, and he says there was an
• 41:31
  I wouldn't call it a man crush, but we just liked each other
• 41:34
  right from the beginning. About his special relationship
• 41:38
  with Brett. And then the footage switches
• 41:41
  from this flashback footage to
• 41:44
  garage like grown man boys, Kody
• 41:48
  But Brett and I were going to take two different paths
• 41:51
  religiously. Religiously.
• 41:56
  Their. Paths diverged.
• 41:59
  Brett says. We were both having a crisis of
• 42:01
  faith at the time, which I was
• 42:04
  about a crises of faith. Well, turns out their crisis of
• 42:07
  faith is complete bullshit on one side and pretty reasonable
• 42:10
  on the other at this point. When they're on the mission,
• 42:13
  that's when Kody's dad married
• 42:17
  So that's an important detail that we, you know, bring up
• 42:20
  sometimes. Whatever in their timeline,
• 42:22
  Kody's gone to the mission and
• 42:26
  second wife. And Kody's mom was writing him
• 42:28
  letters about, we've come to this new faith and I'm letting
• 42:32
  my husband, you know, touch another vagina and blah, blah,
• 42:35
  blah, blah, blah. And that's when we hear from
• 42:38
  Brett about what was happening
• 42:41
  What would what did they call it, this crisis of faith?
• 42:45
  Brett, his version of the church
• 42:49
  So his parents raised him as a
• 42:53
  watered down version. They never were really truly
• 42:58
  ingrained in it. And so they didn't know about
• 43:02
  the fundamentalist side of things.
• 43:04
  They didn't know that Mormonism started with polygamy.
• 43:10
  And so when he found this out,
• 43:14
  him. And then he ended up leaving the
• 43:18
  Mormon church and religion all
• 43:23
  at all anymore. Just.
• 43:25
  As his celestial brother was taking a path into that Mormon
• 43:28
  fundamentalism, deeper, deeper
• 43:32
  yes. Just as Kody was learning that,
• 43:34
  Brett was learning that this is all a farce.
• 43:37
  Yeah. This is all make believe We have
• 43:41
  a couch moment where Janelle talks about how Kody needs to
• 43:43
  spend time with friends because of their family structure.
• 43:47
  Obviously, you know Kody having four wives.
• 43:49
  He's very occupied, he's very busy, he's very wife centric and
• 43:52
  he's clearly constantly taking
• 43:56
  And she tells us about testosterone Tuesday.
• 44:00
  Which was the thing. Back in the day where Kody would
• 44:01
  hang out with his male friends
• 44:05
  husband after recharging with fellow humans that have penises.
• 44:11
  I think this is true through in a sense, I think everybody
• 44:16
  needs friends outside of their
• 44:18
  Your spouse or your partner cannot be your everything, and
• 44:24
  they shouldn't have to be your
• 44:26
  You should get things from external relationships and
• 44:30
  friendships. You know, you get different
• 44:32
  things from your parents as you grow to be an adult.
• 44:34
  You get different things out of your friendships and to put all
• 44:38
  the pressure on your spouse to
• 44:42
  It's just not a good idea, you
• 44:45
  Yeah. So I can understand this
• 44:46
  sentiment. The testosterone Tuesday of it
• 44:50
  all is a bit manosphere again.
• 44:59
  It's coded as that. Well, I'm.
• 45:01
  Just thinking about instead of
• 45:04
  I'll do testosterone Tuesday. I think it smells like it might
• 45:07
  be just as good and. I'll continue to do Taco Tuesday
• 45:11
  with the girls because we all have pink tacos.
• 45:15
  Oh God, I know. That was quite a setup, wasn't
• 45:17
  it? You.
• 45:18
  Did you set me up for that? I couldn't not take the bait.
• 45:22
  Back inside the garage, Kody tells Brett and Sean that he has
• 45:25
  dinner plans for them on the Strip because, you know, Brett
• 45:28
  is visiting from out of town. Sean probably doesn't give a
• 45:31
  fuck about being on the strip,
• 45:33
  But first, Kody has a surprise
• 45:39
  his testosterone friends. And I thought, oh, how
• 45:43
  masculine, how Butch, how little
• 45:46
  Kody, we. Keep throughout this episode
• 45:49
  getting random clips of interview footage from Brett.
• 45:54
  And we get another random interview clip from Brett where
• 45:58
  he's just reiterating yet again for the 500th time, that Kody
• 46:02
  is his best friend. That's a guy.
• 46:05
  And he worries about Kody allowing the energy of all of
• 46:10
  the wives to take off in different directions.
• 46:15
  What the fuck? And to cause chaos because of
• 46:21
  all the different wives, the energy.
• 46:24
  It was a weird interview clip that they pulled for him in the
• 46:30
  middle of the couch with the women and Kody announcing
• 46:34
  they're going to dinner and it
• 46:38
  That's what I'm saying. Well, he.
• 46:40
  Does wrap up his statement by saying I don't envy Kody at all.
• 46:43
  I could never deal with that. And then he's laughing.
• 46:46
  So he's, you know, trying to tee
• 46:49
  with, but it just. Feels a little awkward, like
• 46:52
  he's making a joke at Kody's expense and his wife's expense.
• 46:56
  Where if if I was doing an interview on a friends TV show I
• 47:00
  probably would be careful what I
• 47:04
  I don't. There's a few times during this
• 47:06
  where I'm thinking to myself, dude, rein it in.
• 47:10
  He's got no couth, I'll tell you
• 47:13
  They. Have a long complicated
• 47:15
  relationship. And it was about this time in
• 47:17
  the episode where I said, you know what, if Brett asked me
• 47:20
  out, I would say yes. I would totally say yes.
• 47:23
  I think Brett is a somewhat handsome middle-aged man, and I
• 47:29
  read between the lines and assumed he was a Big Dipper, and
• 47:32
  I thought I would totally say yes if he asked me out.
• 47:36
  So this is where you and I, you know, this is going to be some
• 47:38
  choppy waters moving forward because I'm going to stand up
• 47:41
  for my man, OK? I personally would not play hide
• 47:44
  the hot dog with Brett but that's just me.
• 47:47
  I wouldn't let him eat crackers in my bed.
• 47:49
  He would for sure get kicked out, but maybe he could eat
• 47:52
  crackers in your bed. I'm like, Brett, do you want to
• 47:57
  eat some crackers? And I have like saltines on my
• 47:59
  ass and bread and I'm just like hungry.
• 48:02
  And he's like, are those saltines?
• 48:04
  Like those aren't. Manly enough crackers for me.
• 48:08
  Oh yeah, I need the man crackers
• 48:10
  The driest crackers ever, so that I can stand here and chew
• 48:13
  them in your face and look tough.
• 48:16
  I'm like, oh, I choke. I'm like, this is a mistake.
• 48:19
  It's all a mistake. Oh my God.
• 48:22
  What is? Wrong with us.
• 48:25
  And we learned that while Kody
• 48:27
  some manly bonding, some intergalactic, planetary,
• 48:31
  planetary intergalactic bonding,
• 48:35
  Brett's wife Ava to the zoo with
• 48:39
  their own. We arrive at the zoo and meet
• 48:43
  Carrie and Carrie is going to take them all on the zoo tour.
• 48:49
  Oh, I didn't know you had got a tour guide for going to the
• 48:52
  zoo. Well, Puddle Monkey did do one
• 48:58
  time and got a release and asked if there's someone that could
• 49:01
  show them, you know, like, Oh my God.
• 49:03
  What I love about Carrie's appearance personally is that
• 49:06
  she's wearing those thick white plastic sunglasses that everyone
• 49:17
  I was so cool. You were.
• 49:19
  You were. Thank you for just acknowledging
• 49:23
  I'm your Robyn, if nothing else. Oh God, I'm.
• 49:27
  Your your hype woman. Oh God.
• 49:30
  No. Oh, I regret this.
• 49:32
  I regret this. I just need to follow you around
• 49:38
  Oh God, and you're my Christine. Getting worse.
• 49:42
  You were your mall. Could you be my Janelle though?
• 49:48
  Really, could you?
• 49:48
  I'm going to. End up in that padded garage.
• 49:51
  Just the way it just. Rocking back and forth trying to
• 49:54
  be all of the wives. I tried.
• 49:56
  To be all the sister wives I. Tried Oh my God the 1st.
• 50:01
  Animal that they get to hold. Is a baby kangaroo.
• 50:07
  That was so. Cute.
• 50:09
  What? They cut to Janelle holding this
• 50:11
  baby kangaroo and her arms in a blanket, and she says it feels
• 50:14
  like holding a human baby. Oh my God, It's so adorable.
• 50:20
  I want to hold a baby kangaroo.
• 50:21
  Yeah. Oh my God.
• 50:23
  Savannah is going crazy over holding the baby kangaroo, which
• 50:30
  gets to hold the baby kangaroo before the other kids, I think,
• 50:33
  and she's having the time of her life and I would be too.
• 50:37
  It's. Adorable.
• 50:38
  And this is where we get to fall more and more in love with
• 50:42
  Robyn, as we do collectively every week.
• 50:45
  Now, honey, this one who? This one's opening a can of
• 50:49
  worms. This one's opening a can of
• 50:51
  worms. It.
• 50:51
  Really is. Robyn lets us sit on a little
• 50:55
  secret, another little secret about her.
• 50:57
  I'm not a fan of animals. I'm not an animal person.
• 51:03
  This is no offense to anyone. I am not an animal person.
• 51:08
  I don't do animals. I don't it's because of their
• 51:13
  germs. If there was an animal that
• 51:15
  didn't poop or pee, I would be cool with that.
• 51:18
  A pet rock, perhaps? Robyn.
• 51:21
  Yes, we should get Robyn a pet rock and I'm having flashbacks
• 51:29
  I'm going to ask you for some help here because I'm having a
• 51:42
  walking up the sidewalk to the front door and the kids are with
• 51:47
  And there's a dog that's approaching her.
• 51:49
  Maybe the dog was too excited, I'm not sure, but she kicks the
• 51:55
  fucking dog. Apparently this footage has been
• 52:02
  captures of the actual few frames where you can visibly see
• 52:11
  So homework for our listeners, if you can find this footage
• 52:15
  would be ideal. Photos of it, please tag us,
• 52:19
  send it our way, let us know where we can find it.
• 52:22
  Because I would love to share it for everyone.
• 52:25
  Just to let everyone be reminded of how much we love Robyn and
• 52:28
  how great of a person she is. Because if there's anything I
• 52:30
  say about people that don't like animals, it's that they're great
• 52:36
  Red flag huge. Red flag, people.
• 52:40
  Who don't like animals are so weird to me and I can understand
• 52:48
  once. Maybe you're scared of dogs for
• 52:50
  a certain reason. She doesn't tell us any of that
• 52:54
  and she's just generally saying I'm not an animal person.
• 52:58
  Not even. I'm not a dog person, I'm not a
• 53:00
  wild animal person, I am not an animal person.
• 53:05
  And that blanket statement makes
• 53:10
  Something's wrong with you it.
• 53:14
  where we've questioned is she smart and evil or is she stupid
• 53:18
  and evil? And this one I'm going to put in
• 53:20
  the category of stupid and evil because an evil smart person
• 53:24
  would at least know enough to not say on national television
• 53:26
  that they don't like animals. I can't even believe she has the
• 53:29
  balls to say this while being filmed.
• 53:31
  It's nuts. And.
• 53:32
  She's standing back the entire
• 53:36
  grimacing and making faces as they're holding and touching
• 53:40
  animals. She's Ewing and cringing back.
• 53:46
  Can you tame it down? What are you doing?
• 53:49
  You are making yourself look awful and there's just no
• 53:54
  self-awareness there too. Just like Kody with his dancing.
• 53:59
  How do you not realize that this
• 54:03
  The whole family's enjoying this
• 54:07
  joyous, and you're standing back
• 54:13
  even know. Yeah.
• 54:14
  Like it's a torturous situation.
• 54:15
  Even if you weren't being filmed, your young children are
• 54:18
  there. Put on a little bit of a front
• 54:23
  disgusting to you. Like, just be there.
• 54:25
  You don't have to hold the baby kangaroo.
• 54:26
  We're going to hold a big snake next.
• 54:29
  You don't have to hold a big snake.
• 54:30
  Just stand there like a normal fucking human being.
• 54:33
  My God, they're. Having fun.
• 54:34
  Your kids are having fun, which means you should be enjoying it
• 54:38
  somewhat that your kids are enjoying it.
• 54:40
  I just have to say this one more time because this is not
• 54:44
  something that would happen nowadays.
• 54:46
  They got to hold a baby kangaroo.
• 54:48
  The fuck would not want to hold a baby kangaroo.
• 54:54
  Wrapped up in a blanket. Like it was so cute.
• 54:57
  It was. Adorable.
• 54:58
  You can't get away withholding baby Kangaroos nowadays, so you
• 55:03
  missed out Robyn. Animal hater is animal hating
• 55:07
  bitch is it is. Is the woke crowd made it not OK
• 55:16
  It would be highly frowned upon if you help a baby kangaroo
• 55:19
  nowadays. I'm just saying I don't know.
• 55:23
  I don't know if it's a law, but. I love it.
• 55:27
  My first ask. My first ask from our studio
• 55:30
  audience, thank you very much, was just a minute ago and now
• 55:33
  here's another one. Are we allowed to hold baby
• 55:36
  Kangaroos these days? Please let us know in the
• 55:38
  comments. Please let me know where I can
• 55:44
  Please let us know if we can and if we can, where.
• 55:47
  And I would like to remind everyone now in this moment that
• 55:59
  if you said you don't like sea creatures, but you didn't.
• 56:02
  You didn't say that. You said animals.
• 56:05
  So moving on. And it is ironic that this is
• 56:08
  happening before a scene where we are introduced to a very
• 56:11
  large snake by our host from the zoo carry.
• 56:14
  And it would be something for Robyn to say, I don't like
• 56:18
  snakes. I would go, OK, well, I mean,
• 56:19
  I'm not a fan. I don't necessarily want a big
• 56:25
  and there's a trained professional and this is what
• 56:27
  happens. I probably would do it because I
• 56:31
  someone did it before me kind of vibe.
• 56:33
  That would just make more sense to me.
• 56:35
  Not animals. But see, once again, we
• 56:37
  shouldn't get into hypotheticals to give Robyn any credit or
• 56:39
  anything. She already dug her grave.
• 56:41
  Let's kick her in there and throw the dirt on it.
• 56:43
  Yeah. I've held a Python before.
• 56:46
  It was at a nightclub, one in the cities here that's known for
• 56:53
  I held a large Python across my shoulders and felt like I was
• 56:59
  having a Britney Spears moment. It was glorious.
• 57:02
  I love that for you. That's amazing.
• 57:05
  We. See truly.
• 57:07
  And Meri is holding Little Truly with the snake kind of wrapped
• 57:18
  because she's so teensy, teensy cutesy.
• 57:20
  And I noticed that Truly has on a leash.
• 57:25
  She has on a backpack leash. No, truly.
• 57:29
  Was a leash child. She's wearing one of those
• 57:33
  little backpacks that has the leash attached to it.
• 57:36
  Oh my. Lanta, this is not surprising,
• 57:41
  But Oh my God, of course she has a leash on her.
• 57:46
  Oh no, Truly Scrumptious had a leash on her at the zoo.
• 57:50
  I'm glad you noticed that. I did not notice it.
• 57:53
  What stood out to me primarily was that with Meri holding Truly
• 57:59
  about how she was glad that Meri was doing this because it
• 58:02
  allowed Truly to be able to do this.
• 58:05
  And it stood out to me that this
• 58:10
  scary, terrible Meri and how she's so horrible as she's
• 58:15
  holding truly. And I don't think Meri is the
• 58:18
  one that put her on a leash. I I don't know.
• 58:19
  We don't know. No what you can't confirm or
• 58:22
  deny, but you know, her awful treatment of the children and
• 58:25
  she was so terrible. And here we get this another
• 58:27
  example. We see so many in the show of
• 58:29
  her actually being kind of great
• 58:33
  And no, it's not mutually exclusive.
• 58:35
  You can be an abusive person and
• 58:38
  meaningful relationships. I'm not trying to sound like an
• 58:40
  idiot, but it just seems like we
• 58:44
  that are not cringe in a negative way about Meri.
• 58:47
  So all the stories seem to be these stories, and I don't want
• 58:51
  to invalidate them, but I just
• 58:54
  listeners, especially people overseas and people that have
• 58:57
  never seen the show, that you're
• 58:59
  about how Meri's so terrible. But in the show we see a lot of
• 59:02
  examples of, in my opinion, that
• 59:05
  Yeah, it was cute because Christine was scared of the
• 59:09
  snake and did not want to go and
• 59:12
  So Meri took true lead so that
• 59:15
  And then after truly doing it,
• 59:21
  could go and do it too with Meri's help.
• 59:24
  So Meri encouraged Christine to go and touch the snake as well.
• 59:28
  So it was a good family moment
• 59:33
  of the children. You know, it was a touching, I,
• 59:37
  I don't even know if it was a touching moment.
• 59:39
  It just seemed like a very natural moment.
• 59:43
  If one person's not into doing
• 59:46
  help them do that and that should be the point of the
• 59:49
  Sister Wives. And as Christine is literally
• 59:52
  touching kind of shoulder to shoulder with Meri and the snake
• 59:56
  gets placed around Christine and
• 59:59
  head and the kids are coming up and petting the snake and
• 1:00:02
  doing all these things. And it totally felt of like a
• 1:00:04
  very. Organic familial moment.
• 1:00:08
  I agree with you. I just, I don't know why Meri
• 1:00:11
  gets painted with such a terrible broad brush all the
• 1:00:14
  time. I should say I don't know why.
• 1:00:16
  I do know why. And a voiceover from Meri here
• 1:00:18
  that I thought was something of note.
• 1:00:21
  She says that she thinks it's awesome to do things you're
• 1:00:24
  uncomfortable with just to say
• 1:00:28
  All right, Mayor, you know, I have this complicated
• 1:00:30
  relationship with Meri. I just give her so many shit
• 1:00:34
  stains. She drives me so crazy in this
• 1:00:36
  episode. She hits some fucking lows.
• 1:00:39
  And yet here in this moment, I'm
• 1:00:42
  cute and nice and I don't. Know then she says things like
• 1:00:45
  that and yeah you her on board
• 1:00:51
  Just for a bit. She doesn't let you stay on
• 1:00:53
  board for very long. She kicks you off the side.
• 1:00:56
  Janelle says that seeing Christine step up, she felt like
• 1:01:02
  it was her turn to step up and
• 1:01:07
  right? They all go to the camel exhibit
• 1:01:10
  and they're putting carrots between their teeth or lips,
• 1:01:14
  whatever, and they're feeding them to the camels and the
• 1:01:17
  camels come up and kiss them to get the carrot out of their
• 1:01:22
  mouth. And everyone is giggling and all
• 1:01:25
  the kids are doing it. The adults are doing it except
• 1:01:28
  for Robyn who's standing back grimacing, saying how disgusting
• 1:01:31
  it is. And everyone's laughing because
• 1:01:34
  they're saying the camels little
• 1:01:37
  And I thought it was funny. What I love about the transition
• 1:01:42
  from the snake to the camel is
• 1:01:46
  And so as Janelle, there's a voice over and then all of a
• 1:01:49
  sudden the footage starts and she says when it came time for
• 1:01:51
  kissing the camel and it's like out of nowhere, like, what the
• 1:01:55
  fuck? And she goes, I thought it was
• 1:01:57
  time for me to step up and do something here.
• 1:02:00
  I was inspired by Meri and it's like, OK, you're inspired by
• 1:02:03
  Meri. And Janelle does try to give
• 1:02:05
  Meri kudos when she can. And then they show this footage
• 1:02:09
  of Janelle with the baby carrot in her mouth and the camel
• 1:02:12
  eating it out. And then there's a moment where
• 1:02:14
  all the wives are on the couch, and Janelle's explaining the
• 1:02:16
  experience. And she says, you know, you sort
• 1:02:18
  of just fill the whiskers, barely touching your lips,
• 1:02:24
  gestures towards this brushing
• 1:02:28
  And they show Robyn and Robyn is
• 1:02:33
  reaction she's. Horrified, she is.
• 1:02:36
  She is jolting her head and her arms and making different
• 1:02:39
  shapes and acting as if it is the freakiest thing she's ever
• 1:02:42
  heard in her entire life. And I just thought, God, Robyn,
• 1:02:45
  you've never looked more beautiful.
• 1:02:47
  She looked like a fucking freak.
• 1:02:48
  Do you? Think she has OCD like she is a
• 1:02:53
  super clean person because I've never gotten that vibe before
• 1:02:58
  but they're hinting and alluding to the fact that she doesn't
• 1:03:01
  like animals because of the germs and she thinks it's icky
• 1:03:08
  Think she's got OCD tendencies because I highly doubt it, no.
• 1:03:16
  Like there is no other reason you would hate animals that much
• 1:03:22
  Well. She's certainly as far as the
• 1:03:24
  editors, you know, the editors didn't leave in anything if
• 1:03:28
  she's volunteered any terrible experience with animals.
• 1:03:30
  But I still I don't know that I even met anyone that just hates
• 1:03:34
  animals period across the board.
• 1:03:36
  That's pretty extreme. Anyone.
• 1:03:38
  That I have met that hates animals or hates dogs or cats.
• 1:03:45
  I just am naturally inclined to not converse with I I find
• 1:03:53
  something a little alarming about it.
• 1:03:56
  I think it's a big red flag and it gives me serial killer vibes
• 1:04:00
  for sure. We'll definitely.
• 1:04:01
  All animals. Because you know I'm going to be
• 1:04:03
  a little defensive here. You guys put on your therapist
• 1:04:06
  hats and analyze me. I'm not so into the pussy like I
• 1:04:10
  I just don't think cats are all that amazing.
• 1:04:12
  Now, I don't hate them. I will pet a cat that will not
• 1:04:16
  leave me alone because they want
• 1:04:18
  I'm not like a scared of their
• 1:04:20
  I'm not a scared of their germs.
• 1:04:22
  I you know, it's fine. I just, I'm like, I'm not a big
• 1:04:26
  fan, but even people that I've met, I don't I feel like most
• 1:04:29
  people I've met, it's like they don't care for a particular
• 1:04:31
  animal or something. Like to just say I don't like
• 1:04:35
  animals is so broad and extreme I don't know.
• 1:04:38
  I'm. Scared of certain animals, but
• 1:04:44
  dangerous. You know, monkeys are another
• 1:04:46
  one of the ones don't. I don't like them.
• 1:04:49
  I'm sorry. They can hurt you.
• 1:04:51
  They could rip your nose off. They have disfigured people
• 1:04:54
  before. I don't need to fuck with
• 1:04:56
  monkeys. They're smart.
• 1:04:58
  They're so smart. I don't need to fuck with them.
• 1:05:01
  They can do their thing, you
• 1:05:03
  know? Well, let's.
• 1:05:04
  Add monkeys to your list of biggest fears and then also on
• 1:05:07
  that list is people that don't
• 1:05:11
  Yeah, I do just find something
• 1:05:16
  comes out and says that. Yeah.
• 1:05:19
  Now, we're going to get a commercial break here soon, but
• 1:05:21
  right before the commercial, as a little teaser, we get a
• 1:05:24
  little moment with Ava, who was with them at the zoo, by the
• 1:05:27
  way. And we haven't mentioned Ava,
• 1:05:28
  but they don't really highlight her because it's really about
• 1:05:30
  the kids and the wives during these zoo moments.
• 1:05:32
  And as Ava's being interviewed about her experience with the
• 1:05:35
  wives, she says it has been a bit as she was expecting.
• 1:05:39
  There's some tension at times, which is awkward, and then
• 1:05:44
  there's some genuinely bonded moments.
• 1:05:46
  I'm like, OK, they just, you know, this show is just full of
• 1:05:52
  people you like and you want to know more about.
• 1:05:54
  I don't know what to say. You know, don't hate Ava, but I
• 1:05:58
  don't know. They're trying to tee up that
• 1:06:00
  she's got something to say. And I guess we're going to hear
• 1:06:02
  about it after a commercial break.
• 1:06:03
  After the zoo, the wives and kids and their lovely friend Ava
• 1:06:14
  The children all kind of run off and we get the wives sitting at
• 1:06:20
  the picnic table. There's a few children around
• 1:06:23
  for this, which is a tad alarming to me.
• 1:06:26
  We hear from Ava what she initially thought when she met
• 1:06:32
  wives before she even. Oh yes.
• 1:06:34
  Before she even met them, when Brett told her.
• 1:06:37
  And she says when Brett told me he had a friend that was a
• 1:06:43
  polygamist, At first I was like EW, gross.
• 1:06:46
  He must be some kind of pervert, some horrible person.
• 1:06:51
  And as soon as I met Kody, I realized he was so genuine and
• 1:07:09
  pervert or horrible person. I have to highlight this because
• 1:07:13
  it was a moment for me and it just warmed me up inside.
• 1:07:18
  They cut to the couch and Christine has a very high
• 1:07:22
  pitched Oh my gosh, I can't hit the note.
• 1:07:26
  I couldn't even try if I tried
• 1:07:30
  Would hurt. Myself, it was in a register.
• 1:07:33
  We won't hear again until she serenades us with her rendition
• 1:07:37
  of Let Me Call You Sweetheart,
• 1:07:40
  future. And I don't want to give too
• 1:07:41
  much away, but it was such a high pitch that I'm certain some
• 1:07:48
  listeners couldn't even hear it,
• 1:07:52
  And I was like, Oh my God, it sounds like Minnie Mouse, like a
• 1:07:55
  cartoon. It was insane, Robyn.
• 1:07:56
  Would have been pleased because I bet a bunch of dogs were
• 1:07:59
  screaming after she hit that pitch.
• 1:08:02
  I guess and. After Eva said.
• 1:08:06
  But as soon as I met Kody I could tell he was genuine and so
• 1:08:09
  sweet. They show Meri and she goes
• 1:08:11
  thanks. And I was like, Oh my God, yes,
• 1:08:15
  Meri. I noticed that there was a child
• 1:08:18
  at the table, yet a small child,
• 1:08:23
  playing, but one of the little
• 1:08:27
  And I just was thinking to myself, I can't believe that you
• 1:08:30
  just said out loud in front of
• 1:08:34
  thought he must be some kind of pervert.
• 1:08:38
  And Christine says when Ava said
• 1:08:44
  pedophile because he was a polygamist, I was like, EW,
• 1:08:49
  that's why we went public, so people would see that people
• 1:08:54
  who live plural marriage are just normal people.
• 1:08:59
  And I'm wondering where Ava ever said that he was a pedophile.
• 1:09:06
  He said she said pervert. And you're assuming that pervert
• 1:09:20
  contact with the woman next to him at the stoplight.
• 1:09:22
  That's a pervert to me. Just that, just that.
• 1:09:26
  I mean, a sexual deviant of some sort, right?
• 1:09:29
  Yeah. Yeah, I hear you.
• 1:09:31
  I. Can't believe that Christine
• 1:09:33
  said that. I can't believe that Ava said
• 1:09:36
  pervert. And then Christine following up
• 1:09:38
  with what she followed up with. I was shocked.
• 1:09:42
  Yeah. I, I just think it's a weird for
• 1:09:48
  And I it goes to say that that is where people's minds kind of
• 1:09:55
  go when it comes to meeting people of this faith.
• 1:09:59
  And so that's where Christine's mind automatically went when she
• 1:10:07
  going to think that they are pedos and marrying underage
• 1:10:12
  women, you know, because that's what they're out there to
• 1:10:16
  dispel. So she just jumped to that
• 1:10:18
  conclusion when I don't even think that's what Ava meant.
• 1:10:21
  Well, there was no implication from, well, no literal statement
• 1:10:28
  I happen to miss that comment from Christine, so I don't
• 1:10:32
  really well they. Gloss over it.
• 1:10:34
  They don't make a big deal about it.
• 1:10:36
  And that's another issue I have with them is that you're
• 1:10:40
  literally talking about this like it's nothing.
• 1:10:43
  And that's why we went public, so people don't think of that
• 1:10:48
  about us. And they just gloss over the
• 1:10:51
  whole issue of it yet again, Just weird.
• 1:10:56
  Weird all around. Weird for Ava to say that, weird
• 1:11:02
  And then we get even more pushback from Ava.
• 1:11:05
  They go back to the picnic table and Ava is asking the women.
• 1:11:11
  You guys seem to all have your alone spaces.
• 1:11:16
  Does Kody have that? She prefaces that by talking
• 1:11:20
  about how Kody looks like he's always so busy, but that the
• 1:11:24
  wives have their alone spaces, their individual spaces, and so
• 1:11:27
  she's wondering if Kody ever gets alone time.
• 1:11:30
  Which is when Janelle jokes about getting alone time in the
• 1:11:34
  shower and she cracks herself up, which I love.
• 1:11:37
  I love when Janelle says something.
• 1:11:38
  And is it so funny? I mean, like, yeah, I guess it's
• 1:11:44
  Like, ha ha. But she is busting up.
• 1:11:46
  Like, she just said the funniest shit she's ever heard.
• 1:11:48
  And I do always get a little kick out of when Janelle cracks
• 1:11:51
  herself up because it's like, OK, girl.
• 1:11:53
  Like here for it, I think, Yeah. Usually it's the moms that only
• 1:11:58
  get alone time in the shower, if that, because the kids will
• 1:12:03
  So yeah. Totally.
• 1:12:05
  And then Christine says, well, he takes 2 hours at the gym and
• 1:12:09
  I'm like, Oh my gosh, we've got Christine tracking Kody's time.
• 1:12:12
  And you know, it is, I guess I
• 1:12:15
  would assume a bit of a luxury
• 1:12:18
  two hours at the gym with children.
• 1:12:20
  I mean, I feel as if I'm going
• 1:12:24
  It is something I have to do. I have to plan my day around it
• 1:12:27
  and it is intentional. And it's almost like a, I don't
• 1:12:30
  want to say it's a gift to myself, but it's a thing that
• 1:12:32
  I'm electing to do that is intentional and I'm doing it and
• 1:12:35
  I don't give a fuck about anything else.
• 1:12:37
  I'm going to prioritize it. So I think a parent doing that
• 1:12:41
  is it has to be like a luxury,
• 1:12:44
  Yeah. For sure, I have no time to work
• 1:12:46
  out anymore and I would love to get back into kickboxing, which
• 1:12:50
  was something I enjoyed, but there's just no time for it, not
• 1:12:54
  with little kids. So two hours, that's a lot.
• 1:12:58
  Yeah, Well, you could have. Your 4 year old hold the bag as
• 1:13:01
  you're kicking the shit out of
• 1:13:03
  Yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh.
• 1:13:06
  Yeah, but that doesn't surprise me to hear about Kody, that he
• 1:13:09
  spends 2 hours in the gym on however many days of the week.
• 1:13:11
  That is because, you know, Kody's self-centered and he's a
• 1:13:15
  narcissist and he gets to, you
• 1:13:18
  top shape, whatever that means
• 1:13:20
  And Christine is taking note of it and sharing it with Ava and
• 1:13:24
  with us, the rest of the world.
• 1:13:26
  Yeah, and I'm doubting that he's at the gym for two hours.
• 1:13:29
  So he's doing something else as far as I'm concerned, because he
• 1:13:37
  And Janelle says the men in polygamy aren't just sitting
• 1:13:40
  around waiting to be served as if they're kings.
• 1:13:44
  And you know it. This is a weird topic because
• 1:13:48
  it's like we hear from multiple people that there is this kind
• 1:13:55
  But then when Janelle shares this information, it's almost
• 1:13:58
  like she's highlighting it to emphasize, to demonstrate that
• 1:14:04
  his wives and with his kids. He's not just sitting around.
• 1:14:06
  I think at one point they referenced him watching TV.
• 1:14:09
  He's not just watching TV unless he's with the kids.
• 1:14:12
  So I don't know where the reality lies in that with this
• 1:14:18
  But I also do think these women are probably trying to get him
• 1:14:23
  They're trying to flip the script here to make him look
• 1:14:26
  good and to flip the script on what people think about plural
• 1:14:39
  terminology that a lot of people don't use in their normal
• 1:14:44
  day-to-day conversations. And she does say the men have to
• 1:14:53
  they're busy going house to house and trying to fulfill
• 1:14:56
  everybody's needs. But at the same time, from what
• 1:14:59
  we've heard from most of the ex plagues that have had bad
• 1:15:03
  experiences. So this is, you know, colored
• 1:15:06
  from their lens, the dads are treated like kings and the women
• 1:15:12
  And so they do treat them like kings when they get there so
• 1:15:17
  that they get more of his attention.
• 1:15:19
  And I feel like we do see that with Kody.
• 1:15:25
  So I am so confused by this as well.
• 1:15:28
  And I feel like it's just a blatant fly, probably to try to
• 1:15:34
  make him look good. I don't know.
• 1:15:36
  And it's. Another example, I'm just having
• 1:15:42
  way that's like from her perspective or her life, and
• 1:15:46
  therefore we're all supposed to either surmise or it's supposed
• 1:15:49
  to be a blanket statement about their entire thing.
• 1:15:52
  In all reality, I would imagine that Janelle's house, Kody
• 1:15:56
  probably is not treated like a king.
• 1:15:58
  But I don't know that that's the case at Robyn's house, and I
• 1:16:01
  don't think it's the case at Christine's.
• 1:16:03
  I think at Christine's, it's very, there's sensitivity about
• 1:16:07
  making sure that everything's OK for Kody and he's here.
• 1:16:10
  And we've got to be, you know, and that probably just doesn't
• 1:16:15
  So then she gets to answer that and it's kind of this whole
• 1:16:18
  thing about the whole family, when really that's probably not
• 1:16:19
  what it's like for the other wives in.
• 1:16:21
  Christine's book, she does mention that if she was arguing
• 1:16:25
  with him, he would spend less time there or he'd be coming
• 1:16:29
  super late at night on his nights to be there and leaving
• 1:16:36
  with him and she knew it was because she wasn't keeping
• 1:16:40
  sweet. She was arguing with him.
• 1:16:42
  Something was going on. So you cannot tell me that he's
• 1:16:45
  not using his time manipulative manipulatively.
• 1:16:48
  At Meri's house, you know, that he was trying to just
• 1:16:53
  accommodate her. So I don't know that he feels
• 1:16:55
  like much of A king at Meri's house.
• 1:16:56
  That would be an interesting dynamic to see them alone more
• 1:17:02
  But when they film these things, they're going to have
• 1:17:04
  conversations. They're doing anniversaries,
• 1:17:05
  they're doing trips, they're doing something.
• 1:17:07
  We don't see a lot of them. I'm just jostling around and
• 1:17:11
  spending time together and I think there's something there
• 1:17:14
  that we don't know about or we don't get to witness, I bet.
• 1:17:17
  It's just awkward and weird and there's tension or something.
• 1:17:20
  Or Leon's always got to be there.
• 1:17:22
  Yeah. Like they're never alone without
• 1:17:26
  I bet that's true. I.
• 1:17:29
  Feel like Ava's whole point here is, you know, bringing up that
• 1:17:44
  dynamic that is very traditional.
• 1:17:47
  And they come out and say that a
• 1:17:52
  And I think them kind of Pooh poohing the man cave thing in
• 1:17:56
  front of her was shocking to her.
• 1:18:00
  And I think she's bringing this up to put it in their faces.
• 1:18:07
  Like don't you understand that a
• 1:18:11
  Right and. She's trying to stand up for
• 1:18:13
  Kody and treating the situation how she would treat it with her
• 1:18:18
  husband, and she doesn't get it.
• 1:18:21
  She seems kind of combative with them.
• 1:18:23
  It's a little weird. OK.
• 1:18:26
  Yeah, I wasn't necessarily picking up on that, but I also
• 1:18:35
  situation and her pointing this out.
• 1:18:37
  She was. Sitting on the tailgate during
• 1:18:43
  And they showed her face a few times, and it was judgy.
• 1:18:48
  Yeah. And she does ask another weird
• 1:18:54
  production. So it's hard to know if she
• 1:18:57
  really was thinking these things or maybe if her husband had been
• 1:19:03
  talk to the wives or because he seems like the type of man that
• 1:19:06
  would do that. But she brings up another weird
• 1:19:12
  question and she talks about how she's noticed that Kody
• 1:19:17
  doesn't show affection publicly to any of the wives.
• 1:19:22
  He doesn't, you know, hold hands or get close with the wives when
• 1:19:29
  And she straight up says, is he not allowed to show affection
• 1:19:33
  publicly? Well.
• 1:19:34
  And you know, the first part of her question was pointing out
• 1:19:37
  that Kody does seem more affectionate with only one wife.
• 1:19:44
  questioning as quite. So maybe in the same light that
• 1:19:49
  you're talking about. I think she was like, he seems
• 1:19:52
  more affectionate when he's with
• 1:19:56
  not allowed to show affection publicly?
• 1:19:58
  And when I heard publicly, I was
• 1:20:02
  around each other, not necessarily for the world or
• 1:20:05
  in public. But this line of questioning
• 1:20:08
  just seemed I couldn't put my thumb on it.
• 1:20:10
  I I don't really get it. I feel that she was teeing stuff
• 1:20:19
  she's trying to get to the bottom of things to help Kody
• 1:20:22
  out or to give them a push in a certain direction.
• 1:20:26
  It felt weird. And like I said, it could have
• 1:20:35
  ask questions like this to make sure there was a good or in
• 1:20:40
  depth conversation happening during this boring ass picnic.
• 1:20:57
  Yeah. And they are all Kody centric.
• 1:21:03
  other or their stuff with their kids.
• 1:21:05
  It's all about Kody for sure. Yeah.
• 1:21:08
  She ends her camera interview moment by saying that she
• 1:21:12
  doesn't get why it would bother them if Kody shows affection
• 1:21:18
  like to the other wives when she leaves it there.
• 1:21:23
  I just kind of think she's not a fan of the family.
• 1:21:29
  It just feels weird. I didn't.
• 1:21:32
  Necessarily pick up on those vibes but then again, it is Ava
• 1:21:36
  don't know Ava. I haven't really been introduced
• 1:21:47
  kids. Like Isabel comes over and it's
• 1:21:48
  like, do you want to put your feet in the water or some shit?
• 1:21:51
  And they fucking leave.
• 1:21:52
  And I'm like, OK, thank God. And then this ushers in another
• 1:21:56
  conversation, which is, see, this is what I don't know.
• 1:22:00
  And this is where I'm thinking
• 1:22:02
  There might be some production
• 1:22:04
  because we transition into this discussion that Janelle starts
• 1:22:09
  talking about the kids and the
• 1:22:13
  So this is where I'm going. I don't know about the whole Ava
• 1:22:16
  Kody driven thing that leads into this conversation.
• 1:22:19
  There's something disjointed here it.
• 1:22:21
  Is. Janelle talks to the wives about
• 1:22:23
  how they used to eat dinners together as a family two or
• 1:22:27
  three times a week and now they don't.
• 1:22:30
  And she mentions how they all work together now.
• 1:22:34
  So that's a different way of spending time together.
• 1:22:36
  But she finds herself thinking
• 1:22:40
  making a cross with her arms in front of her chest.
• 1:22:43
  Like I need my spare time ha ha ha.
• 1:22:45
  And as she does this Janelle and
• 1:22:47
  But I'm going how did this come up now?
• 1:22:49
  Like, it just we're missing something from this entire
• 1:22:53
  picnic scene, and I don't really
• 1:22:55
  Yeah. There's a question missing or
• 1:22:57
  something that led up to them having this little private
• 1:23:00
  conversation. And so Christine responds to
• 1:23:03
  Janelle by asking, do we want to
• 1:23:06
  with each other? And Meri goes, yes, let me get
• 1:23:10
  out my schedule and let's plan
• 1:23:12
  Can they all? Laugh, which I did think it was
• 1:23:14
  cute because I personally am not
• 1:23:17
  person. I I'm a planner.
• 1:23:20
  I am a producer. I'm a person that gets things
• 1:23:22
  done. And I need a plan and I need
• 1:23:24
  dates and I need times. And so I thought the joke was
• 1:23:27
  pretty funny to be like, yeah,
• 1:23:29
  spontaneous. I don't know that the goal was
• 1:23:31
  necessarily spontaneity. I think it was spending time
• 1:23:34
  together, period. It didn't need to be
• 1:23:36
  spontaneous, but you know how they do with this family rather
• 1:23:39
  than actually leaning into things, at least temporarily.
• 1:23:43
  But this specific moment, they're going to bring about
• 1:23:46
  humor, OK? Meri says that she just wants to
• 1:23:51
  stay at home and work on her projects.
• 1:23:54
  Yeah, she doesn't really want to
• 1:23:58
  While. Awkwardly giggling.
• 1:24:01
  OK, Meri. Yeah.
• 1:24:03
  You don't want to stay at home
• 1:24:05
  OK lady? Yeah.
• 1:24:08
  Listen, I hear her. I want to stay home and work on
• 1:24:11
  things alone myself, but I also am not married to a man that
• 1:24:14
  has three other spouses and there's seventeen children in
• 1:24:17
  the family. So yeah, whatever.
• 1:24:18
  Yeah. Now we do cut to an interview
• 1:24:22
  moment here with Meri, and I want to tee this up for everyone
• 1:24:24
  because it's kind of, it's a little telling that it's from
• 1:24:29
  the production lens. Meri's alone on a couch.
• 1:24:33
  There's dark shadows on the walls behind her.
• 1:24:36
  There's a dark vignette overlaid
• 1:24:40
  make things seem even more ominous or something.
• 1:24:43
  And they give her a pause. There's like this moment where
• 1:24:46
  before she starts talking, she's
• 1:24:48
  She's sitting there for a second
• 1:24:52
  heavy music starts playing in the background.
• 1:24:55
  And it's like, yes, we're going for this picnic moment.
• 1:24:58
  That's, oh, we're not going to
• 1:25:01
  I mean, we'll bring them up and we'll address them with humor.
• 1:25:04
  And then all of a sudden, Meri's
• 1:25:07
  the piano. Oh.
• 1:25:09
  My God. Yes, and then of course we get
• 1:25:12
  to hear Meri talking about Leon leaving for college and how her
• 1:25:17
  relationship with her sister wives is definitely a different
• 1:25:21
  one, she says. And then we go right back to the
• 1:25:25
  picnic table. She says that with her not
• 1:25:29
  having a young child, she is out
• 1:25:33
  Oh, yeah, you're putting yourself out of the loop.
• 1:25:38
  You're supposed to be another mother to these children.
• 1:25:43
  So you do still have young children, and you shouldn't be
• 1:25:46
  out of the loop. You should be participating in
• 1:25:49
  their lives as far as what we've
• 1:25:55
  family is supposed to work. But Honey Meri has all those
• 1:25:58
  projects that she needs to do alone in her big cavernous house
• 1:26:02
  she's making. PJS for everyone Yeah, so when
• 1:26:05
  she. Leaves her big, cavernous, empty
• 1:26:08
  home where she's got all these
• 1:26:11
  She's in a dark room with Vienna
• 1:26:14
  It's just like, OK, Oh my God.
• 1:26:17
  table, Robyn points out how Meri
• 1:26:22
  other three tend to interact more because of their kids and
• 1:26:25
  their children's schedules, which it was a coherent thought
• 1:26:28
  from Robyn. Yeah, that's a big deal.
• 1:26:31
  A big deal. We've got some back and forth
• 1:26:33
  between these women here, and it's not just two people.
• 1:26:36
  So I don't know how we're going to do these things back and
• 1:26:38
  forth, but oh, God. Christine asks.
• 1:26:43
  Meri, what do you want to have
• 1:26:45
  And Meri's like with what? With what?
• 1:26:49
  And Christine says with the kids
• 1:26:55
  Janelle has to kind of help Meri
• 1:26:58
  She's like, well, especially once Leon is gone, Meri's like,
• 1:27:03
  I don't know. And Robyn's like, do you want
• 1:27:07
  your space? Or do you want the kids around
• 1:27:11
  more? Fucking Robyn and.
• 1:27:15
  Meri says that she doesn't know what she wants, but she also
• 1:27:18
  doesn't want to force it, Like
• 1:27:24
  join her. So she's not alone.
• 1:27:27
  Why would it be forced? Why would it have to be forced?
• 1:27:30
  I don't understand why this is
• 1:27:34
  Oh, hey, we're going to have movie night at Meri's tonight.
• 1:27:36
  We're going to have popcorn in a
• 1:27:38
  girlies. Come on over.
• 1:27:40
  Oh, why don't you come on over.
• 1:27:41
  We'll have a nail Polish, paint our fingernails, toenails Night.
• 1:27:46
  Why does that have to be? Oh, we're forcing it.
• 1:27:49
  No, as a parent, you make decisions for your child.
• 1:27:54
  You call up a babysitter every
• 1:27:58
  do something. Why couldn't that just be
• 1:28:01
  natural for you guys? I don't understand this well.
• 1:28:04
  And she does reference the kids,
• 1:28:08
  So she's, you know, I feel like kind of making it up as she's
• 1:28:11
  answering the question. So she's trying to, I think in
• 1:28:15
  some way make it that it's not
• 1:28:18
  talking about the kids. So it's her having some bullshit
• 1:28:21
  response, you know, and I wonder
• 1:28:25
  with the, you know, Meri being
• 1:28:27
  along with Janelle and she just doesn't want to feel like she's
• 1:28:30
  forcing anything. And as the broken record that I
• 1:28:33
  can't get off of, it's like, we'll fucking pick a lane mare.
• 1:28:36
  Is it that, you know, you want
• 1:28:39
  want to be open, or is it that
• 1:28:41
  around and whatever? Like, you know, she's just, I'm
• 1:28:44
  not sure. I don't, I don't want anyone to,
• 1:28:47
  you know, feel forced. They're literally asking you
• 1:28:51
  right now. Your sister wives are giving you
• 1:28:53
  an opportunity to share your feelings and you're not
• 1:28:56
  actually, well, I shouldn't say share your feelings, but
• 1:28:58
  they're asking you what do you want to do with the kids and
• 1:29:01
  for your future. And she's like, I don't want to
• 1:29:03
  force anything on anyone. It's like you're not a fucking
• 1:29:06
  martyr, Meri, No. They're trying to be supportive
• 1:29:08
  and ask what you are going to need once Leon is gone, Robyn
• 1:29:13
  says. One of my favorite things she
• 1:29:15
  says this whole episode, Robyn
• 1:29:21
  I've heard of the whole empty nest syndrome or whatever that
• 1:29:24
  is. Empty nest syndrome or whatever
• 1:29:31
  that is. Like she's talking about
• 1:29:32
  postpartum depression or something.
• 1:29:35
  That is an actual diagnosis. She is such an.
• 1:29:40
  Idiot. Listen, I've heard the term
• 1:29:41
  empty nest syndrome. It's kind of a thing that people
• 1:29:44
  throw around. But yeah, I mean, is it a
• 1:29:45
  diagnosable? Is it an actual syndrome?
• 1:29:48
  No, you know, it's a phrase the.
• 1:29:50
  Way she's saying it and teeing it up, though, is with concern.
• 1:29:55
  Are you sad You can.
• 1:29:59
  I've heard of this thing and maybe you've got it.
• 1:30:03
  Oh my God. This woman is so dumb.
• 1:30:10
  She is so dumb. Also, let's not forget that
• 1:30:16
  these two are supposed to be close friends, right?
• 1:30:18
  Like of the Sister wives. It's like we kind of have this
• 1:30:21
  unofficial Janelle and Christine
• 1:30:25
  team and Robyn poses these questions as if she's got no
• 1:30:30
  idea and she's just concerned it's a new concern for her.
• 1:30:34
  It's. Like she has to think out all of
• 1:30:36
  her sentences and quips so far
• 1:30:43
  thinking about this and thinking
• 1:30:47
  oh, this is a perfect time for
• 1:30:50
  thinking, I should say. It's true like.
• 1:30:54
  She's not organically thinking
• 1:30:57
  She's got a tee up line because she can't think on the spot.
• 1:31:04
  Yeah, it feels. So weird and there.
• 1:31:06
  Are some moments coming up here that align with that even with
• 1:31:09
  her nonverbals in these couch moments with the sister wives
• 1:31:12
  where she seems almost like she's not listening, she's not
• 1:31:17
  engaged. She's just sitting there kind of
• 1:31:19
  like whatever during heartfelt
• 1:31:23
  wives. So it's almost like when she
• 1:31:25
  hears A keyword or there's a discussion and she's got her
• 1:31:28
  rolodex of responses that she's thought about over the last
• 1:31:31
  three weeks while having her once a month my sister wife's
• 1:31:34
  closet meeting and being so busy
• 1:31:37
  I mean no one knows what the fuck she does all day so she's
• 1:31:40
  got to figure out a few things
• 1:31:43
  inevitably come up that involve her family.
• 1:31:46
  Just bizarre She's. Thinking about stuff two weeks
• 1:31:49
  after the fact, she's taking a
• 1:31:53
  arguments in her head. And I'll say that next time I
• 1:31:56
  hear this topic come up, I'll put that in the Rolodex.
• 1:32:01
  She's. Hot off of Robyn's intellectual
• 1:32:07
  stimulation, we cue the dramatic
• 1:32:11
  Meri on the couch and she talks about memories of when the kids
• 1:32:15
  were younger and they spent time
• 1:32:21
  for that. I'm sorry, you guys, I forgot to
• 1:32:23
  include that the other sister wives are here on the couch with
• 1:32:25
  her. It's not just a solo moment.
• 1:32:27
  We've got all the wives on the
• 1:32:31
  going because Meri's always crying.
• 1:32:34
  And then I was like, oh, shit, I
• 1:32:36
  I'm always crying. So does it, You know, this is oh
• 1:32:39
  God, mayor. Oh God, Mayor, this.
• 1:32:41
  Is an intense one because she is
• 1:32:46
  heartfelt and sappy and all the otherwise are sitting there
• 1:32:51
  stone faced. Well, this is where Janelle is
• 1:32:58
  She picks a point somewhere offset.
• 1:33:00
  It's a person. It's craft services.
• 1:33:02
  I'm going to say it's craft services.
• 1:33:03
  Janelle is looking at the sandwiches over on the table.
• 1:33:06
  She's looking at the Cheetos in a bowl and she's like, I'm just
• 1:33:09
  going to stare at these Cheetos because I cannot engage.
• 1:33:12
  And then you've got Robyn looking like a 13 year old who's
• 1:33:18
  I wonder what bus I'm supposed to catch.
• 1:33:21
  I wonder if my jeans are going to fit tomorrow.
• 1:33:25
  Like she's so fucking stupid and she's just sitting there.
• 1:33:27
  She just looks like a fucking idiot.
• 1:33:29
  And then you've got Christine on the other side of Janelle
• 1:33:33
  looking at Meri, kind of looking concerned, looking at least
• 1:33:37
  engaged enough where she's fucking listening, trying to.
• 1:33:40
  Look like she's listening, nodding along.
• 1:33:42
  Yeah, yeah. She's she's sitting at the edge
• 1:33:45
  and crooked enough where you can't.
• 1:33:47
  I couldn't really see what she couldn't read.
• 1:33:49
  It, yeah, but. Janelle is staring off into
• 1:33:51
  space, Robyn looks like an idiot, and Christine is somewhat
• 1:34:00
  we've all had our ups and downs, but I'm so grateful for the
• 1:34:06
  relationship Leon has with you ladies.
• 1:34:08
  I'm so grateful for you being there raising Leon with me.
• 1:34:15
  Now, I'm being a little bit of an asshole here because as you
• 1:34:21
  She, I mean, she's in tears, she is crying.
• 1:34:24
  She's really kind of revealing, and I do.
• 1:34:28
  Think she's having a genuine moment.
• 1:34:30
  I think she is realizing Leon is leaving and she's reminiscing
• 1:34:35
  and sometimes when you get in your feels and you're having a
• 1:34:44
  And she's definitely having a, Oh my God, there's no coming
• 1:34:48
  back from this now I started it, the dam has opened moment.
• 1:34:51
  And layered on top of this, not only nostalgia, which is what
• 1:34:56
  Janelle actually says to her when Meri takes the breath and,
• 1:35:00
  you know, she's in a moment, and Janelle says there is a lot
• 1:35:05
  of nostalgia there of the kids being together and us being
• 1:35:09
  together. And for Meri in particular, she
• 1:35:12
  does only have one child. And Leon was one of the OG 5
• 1:35:17
  kids or whatever the label is that people would use online.
• 1:35:20
  I don't know. They were going through those
• 1:35:23
  hard times. They were growing family.
• 1:35:24
  I think they did live in the trailer with all these fucking
• 1:35:28
  It's referenced so many times that these kids had such a
• 1:35:31
  different experience than the younger ones.
• 1:35:32
  And so for Meri's only biological child to have been
• 1:35:36
  back in that time that all of the adults except for Robyn and
• 1:35:40
  the kids, all the kids look back on fondly.
• 1:35:44
  And that's going to all change for her.
• 1:35:48
  And she does talk more about her future coming up here.
• 1:35:50
  But I feel like that's even an extra layer.
• 1:35:52
  It's not like she's talking about one of the younger kids we
• 1:35:58
  it's like, you know, it's one of the original kids.
• 1:36:00
  And I don't know. Yeah.
• 1:36:03
  What does Meri say to Robyn? Oh.
• 1:36:05
  God, Meri tells Robyn. I'm sorry that you weren't there
• 1:36:17
  ceiling. And then when she comes back to
• 1:36:19
  the camera, it's like maybe she's a little glossy.
• 1:36:21
  Hard to tell. There's definitely no tears
• 1:36:24
  forming. It's very Robyn, you know.
• 1:36:27
  To me, I get the sentiment behind it.
• 1:36:31
  We're I'm sorry you weren't here to have like the close family.
• 1:36:40
  completely separate life. It's not that you're saying, oh,
• 1:36:49
  back and had to join us later or something.
• 1:36:51
  She wasn't even part of your life yet and she probably was
• 1:36:55
  underage at the time. So like to think she would be
• 1:37:00
  there with you at that time in your lives.
• 1:37:03
  She was probably. How old would she have been?
• 1:37:07
  I don't know. It's just.
• 1:37:09
  She was probably break dancing and they were filming here on
• 1:37:11
  that VHS recorder. She was doing her hot moves and
• 1:37:14
  her denim get up. You know, she was living her
• 1:37:17
  life. She was off having premarital
• 1:37:18
  sex, getting knocked up that little house.
• 1:37:21
  Yeah. And then Meri talks about how
• 1:37:24
  their family focus has always been on the kids and how Leon is
• 1:37:31
  going to be in the family moving forward there's.
• 1:37:33
  Only a few roles you can have in a family, and in a family like
• 1:37:44
  of the other children's lives. But I don't understand why that
• 1:37:49
  concept is so difficult for her to grasp, because it seems to be
• 1:37:55
  I think it's, I think that a sentence like I don't know what
• 1:38:00
  I wanted to be is much bigger than the edit gives it.
• 1:38:05
  It's like that was the wrap up of that and now we're going to
• 1:38:09
  said she doesn't know what she wants her role to be in this
• 1:38:12
  family of 17 children where she's supposed to be their
• 1:38:15
  mother and a wife and participant.
• 1:38:17
  So not hard to read between the lines there.
• 1:38:20
  Yeah, I think it's. More of a large life crisis at
• 1:38:28
  sight of the bigger picture, I guess is what I'm trying to say
• 1:38:33
  I. Suspect that none of the wives
• 1:38:38
  and inviting her like it. I don't get that vibe.
• 1:38:41
  No. And as we get from Sister Wives
• 1:38:45
  production, sometimes it makes me go, WTF, what the hell is
• 1:38:49
  going on? Upbeat, peppy music.
• 1:38:53
  It's like Meri was just crying on the couch having a near
• 1:39:00
  breakdown and all of a sudden it's sunshine and beautiful and
• 1:39:04
  everything's great. Like, OK, it's almost comical.
• 1:39:16
  Stratosphere? I don't.
• 1:39:17
  Think so. I don't think that I went when
• 1:39:21
  Not been, but I would love to say that I'd love to go, but I
• 1:39:26
  I don't. Really either.
• 1:39:27
  I'm not one of those people that needs to see things from high up
• 1:39:36
  crazy view like that. I don't know, Kody.
• 1:39:40
  Says, you know, the stratosphere is like 1,000,000 feet tall,
• 1:39:43
  right? And we're going to jump off of
• 1:39:48
  because he's fucking Kody. And we get an immediate cut to
• 1:39:54
  when you jump out of an airplane and they're at the top of the
• 1:39:57
  tower. I don't know.
• 1:39:58
  Do you know if these suits have a name or what they're called?
• 1:40:06
  free falling. That's called a squirrel suit.
• 1:40:10
  Suits and. Things, yeah, I don't think they
• 1:40:16
  Probably more protective gear. Keep them warm on their drop
• 1:40:21
  down my. Boyfriend Brett gets bondaged up
• 1:40:29
  going to be thrown off a building.
• 1:40:30
  I don't really know what that's called.
• 1:40:32
  Kody points out that Brett doesn't look scared at all.
• 1:40:36
  He talks about needing to keep up with the other guys.
• 1:40:39
  His, you know, thing. And I always enjoy when Kody's
• 1:40:45
  I'm like, oh, Kody. Oh, Kody.
• 1:40:49
  He talks about how Brett isn't fazed, he's not even breaking a
• 1:40:56
  sweat and Kody's over there. But everything's cool.
• 1:41:00
  Everything's cool. And then threat.
• 1:41:04
  He dives off. He's Superman's, Kody calls it.
• 1:41:09
  And really, I mean, Brett did
• 1:41:11
  leap off, but Kody refers to it as Superman dive.
• 1:41:15
  It's not a dive. He just jumps off.
• 1:41:17
  Like it's ridiculous. Kody's got to make every man
• 1:41:19
  sound so amazing and he's just
• 1:41:23
  to actually be more manly. And it's like, Oh my God.
• 1:41:26
  And Sean jumps off next, and Kody says that Sean looks pale
• 1:41:32
  and as quiet as he approaches the edge.
• 1:41:34
  And I'm thinking about if I was in that experience, I don't
• 1:41:38
  really like jumping off of high things, personally.
• 1:41:41
  I probably could look a little
• 1:41:45
  definitely be quiet. So, you know, I think I would do
• 1:41:48
  it personally. I would do it.
• 1:41:49
  I would be like, people do this all the time.
• 1:41:51
  I'm going to go for it. It's fine.
• 1:41:53
  But I would be freaking the fuck
• 1:41:55
  I don't know. I wouldn't.
• 1:41:56
  Do it. I.
• 1:41:57
  Wouldn't do it. I am not a fan of heights and I
• 1:42:01
  found that out the hard way when
• 1:42:06
  husband and I went and did one of those treetop zip line
• 1:42:10
  tours and we were in the trees for hours on top of these tiny
• 1:42:15
  things that were shaking and waving in the wind.
• 1:42:18
  And I was hungover as shit. So I was trying not to puke and
• 1:42:22
  I didn't know I was scared of heights until we got up there.
• 1:42:26
  And Nope, not for me, not for me.
• 1:42:29
  Oh my. God yeah, the hangover would
• 1:42:32
  definitely take it to a whole another, I found.
• 1:42:34
  Out the hard way, yeah. But Sean jumps off and as he's
• 1:42:38
  hurling down through the sky, he
• 1:42:41
  And I was like, OK, so he's actually enjoying it while he's
• 1:42:44
  doing it, but to a certain extent.
• 1:42:48
  And Kody says if I do a Pike, I beat them both, right?
• 1:42:51
  I need validation, man. It's like, yeah, no kidding.
• 1:42:55
  You need validation. That's all.
• 1:42:58
  You definitely need validation.
• 1:42:59
  You definitely need to he. Literally says that, yeah, Chris
• 1:43:05
  And he says that he gets talkative when he's nervous, so
• 1:43:09
  you can tell he's nervous right now.
• 1:43:11
  Yeah, yeah. Sean and Brett are down below
• 1:43:16
  and they yell up dude. They yell up at Kody.
• 1:43:21
  Yeah, Kody says he was nervous, of course, and feeling
• 1:43:24
  lightheaded, which I love that he volunteered that information
• 1:43:26
  because I'm going, yes, I'm glad Kody was so uncomfortable.
• 1:43:29
  But then we get to see Kody
• 1:43:31
  getting bondaged in, and I wasn't nearly as turned on as
• 1:43:34
  when I saw Brett getting bondaged in, but whatever.
• 1:43:37
  Kody jumps off and we get to see
• 1:43:40
  he's woohooing, laughing and yeah, the guy's.
• 1:43:47
  Dumbledore who? Who?
• 1:43:50
  And I had the closed captioning on and it said hooting,
• 1:43:54
  hooting, hooting. Hooting.
• 1:43:58
  That's awesome. Yeah, so good.
• 1:44:03
  After Kody Lancey says I did a
• 1:44:07
  God, Why he's so obnoxious, I don't even know.
• 1:44:11
  What a Pike is like. What is he talking about?
• 1:44:14
  What is it I? Think a Pike is the like in
• 1:44:17
  diving. It's when you dive, jump off the
• 1:44:19
  end of the diving board and you take your feet and your hands
• 1:44:23
  to each other and then go into a
• 1:44:25
  Oh, yeah. You know when your body makes
• 1:44:27
  like a hinge and then you go down and I'm going.
• 1:44:29
  I don't know, Kody, I think you're giving yourself a lot of
• 1:44:31
  credit here. I didn't see a pipe.
• 1:44:32
  I don't. Think anyone saw that but OK
• 1:44:35
  keep. Telling.
• 1:44:37
  Yourself, you did that. He tells us he was more afraid
• 1:44:41
  of being shown up by Brett and
• 1:44:44
  And it's like, yeah, you don't
• 1:44:46
  I'm pretty sure it's true, Brett.
• 1:44:48
  Goes let's call it peer power,
• 1:44:53
  These fucking. Guys, lame.
• 1:44:56
  This made me think, I really do want to go parasailing at some
• 1:45:01
  point. And I was wondering, you've
• 1:45:03
  spent time in Mexico. I have not.
• 1:45:06
  You used to live in California, and that's a parasailing Mecca
• 1:45:08
  in the United States. Have you gone parasailing?
• 1:45:11
  I. Have not that is 1.
• 1:45:14
  Thing I might do because you're strapped to another person and
• 1:45:17
  you're on the water. I don't know what could really
• 1:45:20
  go wrong. And I say that and now I'm
• 1:45:22
  thinking about it and I think I have heard of deaths happening
• 1:45:25
  that way. So yes, things can definitely go
• 1:45:28
  wrong. Well.
• 1:45:29
  I saw it recently on another show where I thought, Oh my
• 1:45:31
  gosh, that may be one of those
• 1:45:35
  do. I don't want to jump out of an
• 1:45:37
  airplane. I don't want to jump off of the
• 1:45:38
  top of this fucking building. But parasailing, I was having a
• 1:45:43
  similar thought where I'm going,
• 1:45:45
  and what you fall in the water like, I don't know, I'm a OK
• 1:45:48
  swimmer. I think I would be maybe OK.
• 1:45:50
  I think the impact is the worst part.
• 1:45:52
  But you know, maybe it'd be all right, I think.
• 1:45:55
  You're strapped into a device and you're strapped onto this
• 1:45:58
  giant thing that you probably can't get out of, and you're
• 1:46:01
  stuck underwater. With the thing, potentially,
• 1:46:03
  yeah. With your straps and everything
• 1:46:06
  and you're strapped to another person, that's the weighing
• 1:46:08
  you're down. This it could be a.
• 1:46:11
  Torturous death. I'm just saying.
• 1:46:12
  And. Then the sail falls on top of
• 1:46:15
  you and it's. Pulling you to the ocean floor.
• 1:46:18
  Yeah.
• 1:46:18
  OK. So maybe it's got.
• 1:46:19
  Metal on my. Assumptions are Ron, the story
• 1:46:22
  that I did hear after I made this decision, I thought, you
• 1:46:25
  know, this would be an adventurous thing.
• 1:46:27
  I'm also thinking about, you know, this hypothetical man, my
• 1:46:29
  personal Brett in the future, yes, we're going parasailing on
• 1:46:33
  our first trip and I'm going, God, look at me, I'm so
• 1:46:35
  adventurous and whatever. And then I heard a story from
• 1:46:39
  another show where someone was
• 1:46:43
  came in. So when I Googled it, the thing
• 1:46:45
  you have to look out for is upcoming weather, right?
• 1:46:47
  Winds and storms and they can kind of come out of nowhere on
• 1:46:50
  the coast. So, and apparently this woman
• 1:46:53
  was living in California and witnessed where a storm came in
• 1:46:58
  and there was a break in the bungee or the whatever.
• 1:47:00
  And the woman flew, flew, flew
• 1:47:06
  top of a building And it took like emergency crews to get her
• 1:47:11
  off of the top of a building. Don't know if she lived or not.
• 1:47:14
  And then I was like, oh God, OK,
• 1:47:18
  bad outcomes. And now I'm questioning the
• 1:47:21
  whole thing. But I still would fucking do it.
• 1:47:23
  I totally would do it. I feel like I would.
• 1:47:25
  So I, my future husband, if you're listening to this
• 1:47:28
  podcast, please take me parasailing.
• 1:47:30
  It's I'm willing to risk my life
• 1:47:32
  Yeah. I am at a point in my life,
• 1:47:36
  especially after having children, where I just don't
• 1:47:38
  care to put myself in harm's way.
• 1:47:41
  There's really no purpose anymore.
• 1:47:43
  I got my jollies off when I was younger doing crazy shit.
• 1:47:48
  Don't necessarily need to do it anymore.
• 1:47:51
  I don't know, I was going to. Say like, what is your risky
• 1:47:53
  behavior these days? And I'm literally thinking like
• 1:47:56
  driving home from work. Oh my God, my drive to and from
• 1:48:00
  work is treacherous. 45 minutes each way.
• 1:48:05
  Dave and I do at the State Fair.
• 1:48:08
  We do the one really crazy ride that like flips you upside down
• 1:48:13
  and you like go up really high and it's like a giant arm that's
• 1:48:22
  I do love a good roller coaster. I love an amusement park,
• 1:48:27
  something like that. I still do, but.
• 1:48:30
  Now the boys go to the revolving restaurant at the top of the
• 1:48:34
  tower at this place, whatever it's called.
• 1:48:37
  Stratosphere thank. You the stratosphere and Sean
• 1:48:40
  says sometimes he looks at Kody and wonders what wife is in his
• 1:48:46
  head. Yes, I thought.
• 1:48:48
  This was quite a weird kind of thing to bring.
• 1:48:52
  I mean, I don't know, maybe it's not weird, but I don't know.
• 1:48:55
  I thought it was weird it. Made sense when they started
• 1:48:59
  talking about it because Kody has a little bit of a different
• 1:49:03
  personality with each wife and he's worried about different
• 1:49:06
  things when he's with each wife. So he's maybe in his head having
• 1:49:15
  just went through with one wife.
• 1:49:17
  And so he's speaking to his friends a different way based
• 1:49:20
  off the last person he was with.
• 1:49:22
  Maybe because they do cut to the wives kind of talking about this
• 1:49:28
  You know, he's different with each of us.
• 1:49:30
  And I can tell when he comes from so and so's house, what
• 1:49:35
  he's been worried about there and what he's been dealing with
• 1:49:38
  there based on what he's focused on here when he gets
• 1:49:41
  here. So I can kind of see that.
• 1:49:44
  I think I act differently around
• 1:49:48
  different person, but we all have different ways we act
• 1:49:53
  around different people in our
• 1:49:54
  So I can see where one of your
• 1:50:00
  those different sides of you and
• 1:50:03
  Actually have to give a little
• 1:50:05
  production company, Puddle Monkey, and because this is
• 1:50:08
  actually a good segue, I mean for Sean, even though I was
• 1:50:12
  wondering where the fuck is this
• 1:50:14
  It does lead us into these wives
• 1:50:16
  And then Christine says that and
• 1:50:20
  into the house and he's concerned about XY or Z, she
• 1:50:24
  knows exactly who he's been talking to.
• 1:50:27
  So not only is there a difference, but I know who you
• 1:50:30
  were talking to based on what you're bringing up.
• 1:50:32
  And I'm going, oh, my God, it's so true.
• 1:50:35
  Like, even if you're not married
• 1:50:38
  whatever, of course, like if I
• 1:50:41
  started talking about something,
• 1:50:44
  he was dealing with this or talking to that person.
• 1:50:46
  Like, yeah. All right.
• 1:50:49
  And back at the restaurant, Brett says at the beginning of
• 1:50:51
  their relationship, Ava told him
• 1:50:55
  So I guess this is his, you know, preface to let us know
• 1:50:57
  that he too is a feminist part
• 1:51:00
  And so once again, my boyfriend comes through.
• 1:51:04
  But then he says if we have a disagreement, she would allow
• 1:51:08
  him to make the decisions. And that that has saved us so
• 1:51:13
  many times in air quotes is what
• 1:51:16
  Now this is where I feel like I have to ask you, what does this
• 1:51:21
  really mean and how should I feel about it?
• 1:51:24
  He. Says that she told him early on
• 1:51:29
  that if they were ever having a disagreement, she would trust
• 1:51:33
  him to make the right decision.
• 1:51:36
  So she would let him take over and be the, you know, put lay
• 1:51:42
  the hammer down and make the decision regardless of what
• 1:51:46
  they're arguing about. She would trust him to do that.
• 1:51:52
  Relationship dynamics are so
• 1:51:55
  interesting because obviously they have a very traditional
• 1:52:03
  relationship and this is what I was getting at earlier with her
• 1:52:07
  leading questions. I felt like she was asking
• 1:52:11
  leading questions from her lens of their traditional marriage.
• 1:52:18
  And they kind of joke about how well, they don't kind of joke
• 1:52:23
  about it. They flat out joke about it,
• 1:52:26
  about how, you know, Brett gets to lead and Kody, do you ever
• 1:52:31
  get to lead? Do you ever get to be in charge?
• 1:52:33
  And they're joking about at the beginning of the episode with
• 1:52:36
  the garages and you've got 4 garages and you can't even have
• 1:52:40
  one. And then you got his wife teeing
• 1:52:43
  up questions to the wives, kind of leading them to be like,
• 1:52:50
  well, does he have his own space
• 1:52:54
  What about this affection between all of you?
• 1:52:58
  And then when we get to this part of the episode and they're
• 1:53:02
  talking and basically making fun
• 1:53:07
  kind of making fun of him, poking fun of him and saying his
• 1:53:11
  wife's pushed him around and that he just gets browbeat into
• 1:53:15
  making a decision because he gets tired of arguing with them.
• 1:53:21
  I feel like him and his wife had
• 1:53:28
  I can see more of your perspective as we're going
• 1:53:31
  through the episode and connecting those dots.
• 1:53:34
  I can see that. I can see that, you know, it's
• 1:53:37
  not helpful as a viewer. Well, especially one that's a
• 1:53:40
  leader of the manosphere that Sean, you know, piles on or adds
• 1:53:46
  in that he, you know, and his wife compromise a lot.
• 1:53:49
  So he starts with that. We compromise a lot.
• 1:53:52
  But when there isn't a compromise that we can make, I
• 1:53:55
  take the lead. So you have two men here saying
• 1:54:00
  similar enough things where, you
• 1:54:04
  You know, we compromise. But when it comes, when push
• 1:54:07
  comes to shove, I make the call.
• 1:54:09
  And I don't know what to say about this because I am
• 1:54:13
  certainly not in a traditional marriage.
• 1:54:15
  I'm not ever in a relationship with a female and I'm a male.
• 1:54:20
  I don't know how these things are actually determined in
• 1:54:23
  relationships. The example that I have is my
• 1:54:25
  mom and dad, and my dad makes the decisions because my mom was
• 1:54:30
  parents to being taken care of by her husband.
• 1:54:32
  So not a good example. She just falls into line whether
• 1:54:41
  like to actually see a man and a woman in a situation where they
• 1:54:45
  can't find a compromise, they can't decide.
• 1:54:48
  Then what do you do? For example, what do you do,
• 1:54:52
  Kimber? Do you say whatever you say,
• 1:54:54
  hubby? Men have such fragile egos, and
• 1:54:57
  as soon as you do anything that threatens Emil's ego, that is
• 1:55:04
  game over. And that's what they're doing to
• 1:55:10
  defensive. Now in my relationship, tons of
• 1:55:14
  compromise. We decide stuff equally and we
• 1:55:25
  and conquer. And there are things that I
• 1:55:27
  defer to him for and things he defers to me for.
• 1:55:30
  And if we've ever had an argument about something, we
• 1:55:34
  compromise on it. These guys are just having a
• 1:55:39
  Dick swinging contest during this conversation and their egos
• 1:55:51
  It's outrageous. And as soon as this ego contest
• 1:55:57
  starts, Kody gets defensive and he turns into a bumbling idiot.
• 1:56:04
  And it's embarrassing. He says, I guarantee I'm in
• 1:56:08
  charge, but it's because of my
• 1:56:15
  Because we all know how women are viewed in your church versus
• 1:56:21
  how men are viewed and that you're the prophet of the family
• 1:56:24
  and you get to spread the word
• 1:56:28
  So yeah, sure. It's not because of your
• 1:56:31
  anatomy. Sure.
• 1:56:34
  And he kind of bumbles around and says like a few different
• 1:56:37
  things and then says again, everyone knows I'm in charge.
• 1:56:41
  And just him coming out and saying those statements is so
• 1:56:45
  yucky. At one point when he's going
• 1:56:48
  through his paragraphs of nonsense, Brett asks him, Do you
• 1:56:53
  ever get the ultimate say? And Kody responds by saying, you
• 1:56:57
  guys know I'm an alpha male, but
• 1:57:01
  chill. And this is the thing about
• 1:57:04
  Kody. He's such a showboat.
• 1:57:05
  And he's also not even, I don't want to say he's not aware he
• 1:57:09
  thinks he's an alpha male. Do I think in a bunch of men
• 1:57:13
  he's the alpha male? Of course not.
• 1:57:14
  Like he's an attention seeker and he'll just say what he needs
• 1:57:19
  the opinion of these men than jumping off of a fucking high
• 1:57:22
  rise building. Like he volunteers that like he
• 1:57:25
  gives himself away and so learning to chill is an
• 1:57:28
  interesting thing for him to say.
• 1:57:29
  But then they transition to a couch moment with Kody where he
• 1:57:33
  says everyone knows I'm in charge of my family, but I have
• 1:57:37
  to do it subtly. I can't just go around with
• 1:57:40
  strong women and boss them around.
• 1:57:42
  OK, he's maybe trying to give us an insight into how he manages
• 1:57:49
  anything to actually learn from this or garner from it?
• 1:57:53
  No, he shares a story about how at one point he got a job in
• 1:57:57
  Utah and he was like, we need to move to Utah.
• 1:58:00
  This was back when the family lived in Montana when they were
• 1:58:02
  a young family. And he told Janelle that they
• 1:58:05
  were moving because he got this job, which, OK, we've gone into
• 1:58:08
  this before, but you don't probably move the family for a
• 1:58:13
  where Janelle's job is. I would guess because Janelle
• 1:58:16
  was probably the breadwinner and the, the, the consistent income
• 1:58:21
  and Janelle says, no, she wasn't going to move.
• 1:58:24
  And she just put her, she planted her feet and said no.
• 1:58:27
  And she does volunteer in a couch moment that she was
• 1:58:30
  adamant about not moving and kind of talking about how it's
• 1:58:35
  And so she was not going to do it.
• 1:58:37
  And, you know, I don't know how much weight to put in that.
• 1:58:40
  I kind of find it a little bit of an unsavory quality when
• 1:58:44
  people are adamantly opposed to things because someone's telling
• 1:58:55
  hard time with borders with that's.
• 1:58:56
  Ego sticking your feet in and not changing your mind just
• 1:59:00
  because of your ego yet again, as opposed to making the best
• 1:59:03
  decision based on the facts in front of you.
• 1:59:07
  And I think she's lying yet again here.
• 1:59:10
  I think that they were at a point in their family and their
• 1:59:14
  marriage where it wasn't great. And I think that this was
• 1:59:17
  probably just the straw that broke the camel's back, the fly
• 1:59:20
  on the camel's hump. Yes, yes.
• 1:59:23
  Yeah, I don't think that it was really about her digging her
• 1:59:28
  feet in. I don't believe that for a
• 1:59:30
  second. I.
• 1:59:31
  Think you're right maybe who knows about Kody's and her
• 1:59:34
  relationship at that time. Maybe it wasn't going so great,
• 1:59:36
  but we know it was not going great with Meri.
• 1:59:39
  And so she probably just had enough of the bullshit and was
• 1:59:44
  And that it might have actually been an out for her in the sense
• 1:59:48
  I. Think it was she even said that
• 1:59:51
  she was willing to stay there and that she knows of Polly
• 1:59:54
  family that live in different areas and that they've made it
• 2:00:01
  is, he has to tell the guys in this Dick swinging competition
• 2:00:09
  through example. So he decided to move and he
• 2:00:12
  just did his thing. And that Chanel of course
• 2:00:15
  followed after realizing she missed him.
• 2:00:17
  She does acquiesce in the sense of her story.
• 2:00:20
  She says she missed Kody and that's why she ended up moving
• 2:00:25
  I think it was more religion based probably.
• 2:00:27
  It was probably the sin of it all, the fact that she might go
• 2:00:31
  to hell and all of the other reasons, but OK.
• 2:00:35
  Having their children in different states must have been.
• 2:00:41
  mom and we're supposed to believe that she's whatever,
• 2:00:44
  there had to be an element of the kids being separated that
• 2:00:46
  was not good to witness. And you know, as a mother, you
• 2:00:50
  wouldn't want your kids to not
• 2:00:53
  apparently are. Yeah, you.
• 2:00:54
  Don't want to be the one that splits up the family.
• 2:00:58
  They probably guilted her or some shit too, you know?
• 2:01:01
  Totally. Totally.
• 2:01:04
  We get a couch moment with Kody by himself where he talks about
• 2:01:06
  if he wasn't in charge, that means a wife is in charge and
• 2:01:11
  there can't be one wife in charge.
• 2:01:14
  She. Says if I'm not in charge, then
• 2:01:17
  one of my other wives is in charge.
• 2:01:19
  I can't have a wife being in charge of my other wives.
• 2:01:24
  Never dangerous. That's a dangerous thing,
• 2:01:30
  because then one of them's going
• 2:01:33
  others. And I don't think he's wrong
• 2:01:36
  there, no. I don't think he's wrong either.
• 2:01:38
  Think that as animals, we inherently look to somebody for
• 2:01:44
  a leadership role. Whether you want to say, oh,
• 2:01:48
  we're even when it comes to some
• 2:01:52
  this, when you get to a family
• 2:01:56
  look for somebody to lead it, right?
• 2:01:58
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:02:00
  What stood out to me in this moment was thinking about the
• 2:02:03
  future. And I know we try not to talk
• 2:02:06
  too much about what happens in
• 2:02:09
  the future. And friendly reminder for anyone
• 2:02:11
  who hasn't been through this whole journey with us, I've
• 2:02:14
  watched the show before, but you're watching most of these
• 2:02:19
  episodes for the first time at
• 2:02:21
  Yeah. I haven't seen any of these yet.
• 2:02:23
  So that's another element of like, I try not to give too much
• 2:02:27
  away, but then also for people
• 2:02:29
  you, what eventually does kind
• 2:02:34
  interpretation? You know, this isn't law.
• 2:02:36
  This is in fact, and I am only a
• 2:02:39
  But really, Robyn kind of becomes the head wife through
• 2:02:45
  manipulation of Kody. They're both weak minded or
• 2:02:49
  they're both idiots or they're
• 2:02:51
  strong minded and they're both
• 2:02:52
  Who knows? We don't.
• 2:02:53
  It's hard to put the finger on, but Robyn manipulates Kody to
• 2:02:58
  being the wife who makes decisions.
• 2:03:01
  She's the neck that turns the head, as the old saying goes.
• 2:03:05
  And so that's pretty much why their family ends up falling
• 2:03:09
  apart is because he's convinced that he's a leader and he's
• 2:03:14
  making all these decisions, when
• 2:03:17
  the decisions that another wife is probably making up in that.
• 2:03:22
  Was going to be the point that I
• 2:03:25
  said and done, a lot of these men that think they're making
• 2:03:29
  these decisions, their wife is the one behind the scenes
• 2:03:33
  pulling the strings. And there is something called
• 2:03:39
  motivational interviewing where you can ask the right questions
• 2:03:44
  and get somebody to come to a conclusion.
• 2:03:46
  And I think that a lot of women do it without knowing they're
• 2:03:49
  doing it. And Oh well, I guess if you
• 2:03:53
  don't cut the grass today, then if you have to cut it on
• 2:03:59
  Sunday, then you might not be able to watch the football
• 2:04:04
  game. I guess it's up to you, though,
• 2:04:07
  leading things like that that end up getting you what you
• 2:04:11
  want. Women are good at that.
• 2:04:14
  And that's what Robyn ends up doing with him.
• 2:04:18
  And so I think that's kind of what's been happening all along
• 2:04:22
  a little bit from each wife. They each have their little
• 2:04:25
  manipulation tactic to get what they need to out of him.
• 2:04:27
  And he thinks he's the one in charge.
• 2:04:29
  But I don't really believe that. And for?
• 2:04:33
  Some reason Kody just really is into her, which I think most of
• 2:04:38
  us are going how and why and what, but he definitely buys
• 2:04:44
  into her avenue of that approach more than anybody else's.
• 2:04:48
  But we don't need to give away any details or anything.
• 2:04:51
  And I'm sorry if I blew my load prematurely for anybody, I
• 2:04:53
  wouldn't want to do that. I just think it's funny that
• 2:04:57
  Kody's all about how he's such a decision maker and he's a leader
• 2:05:04
  It's so obvious. When the Dargers were visiting,
• 2:05:07
  there was that whole thing about how it's like the Brown
• 2:05:09
  family chaos and Kody can't do anything.
• 2:05:11
  And it's like, I'm not saying that the way that Joe Darger
• 2:05:14
  runs his family is appropriate, but Kody clearly is not the
• 2:05:17
  actual leader of his family. He's the Homer Simpson of the
• 2:05:21
  fucking family. He's kind of a boob just
• 2:05:24
  floating around and. Sean and Brett are razzing him
• 2:05:29
  actually. I think Sean kind of took a
• 2:05:31
  backseat. I think he's a smart man.
• 2:05:33
  I think he's probably more progressive.
• 2:05:34
  And he did take a backseat. But Brett is for sugar razzing
• 2:05:41
  questions that are alluding to the fact that you ladies need to
• 2:05:54
  I think Sean is at a boys table. He's a boy.
• 2:05:58
  He's saying, yeah, my wife and I are equal.
• 2:06:01
  But you know, when push comes to shove, I make the decision, OK.
• 2:06:04
  I mean, I think a lot of people
• 2:06:06
  would probably say that about their relationships.
• 2:06:08
  It doesn't. It doesn't have the same vibe
• 2:06:10
  and Ness as fucking Brett. Brett is definitely doing that.
• 2:06:16
  Kody asks Brett if he would come
• 2:06:19
  commitment ceremony. And Brett says that he would fly
• 2:06:22
  in for it and then fly out. And then they laugh.
• 2:06:24
  And at first I was like, why are
• 2:06:29
  Like, what did I miss? Like what's happening?
• 2:06:30
  But luckily we get right into it
• 2:06:33
  don't get into this, I'm going to go, are you fucking kidding
• 2:06:35
  me? Like, I don't need to question
• 2:06:38
  Thank God they give us the answer right away.
• 2:06:41
  We get these moments with Kody and Brett hearing more about
• 2:06:44
  their history and things that have happened and Kody tells us
• 2:06:47
  that he and Brett got into an antagonistic argument and a
• 2:06:51
  disagreement years ago about Joseph Smith and they didn't
• 2:06:55
  speak for five years after that. This aligns with what we knew
• 2:07:01
  about Brett leaving the faith and being a non religious
• 2:07:05
  person. And I would have loved to have
• 2:07:15
  following his parents ego driven, bringing wives in.
• 2:07:17
  Yeah, I get to be the star of every scenario.
• 2:07:20
  Meanwhile, his supposed stellar star aligned boyfriend what did
• 2:07:25
  what would they called this cosmic?
• 2:07:28
  Brother or something? Oh yeah, cosmic.
• 2:07:30
  Brother, Yeah, God is going. By the way, this is all hocus
• 2:07:34
  pocus, and the path that you're taking is literally the craziest
• 2:07:44
  Yeah, I'm a little confused by the timeline of this because
• 2:07:49
  then we find out that Brett got a wedding invite from Kody and
• 2:08:01
  come. Kody says that when Brett left
• 2:08:10
  whole day because he had had this falling out with him and he
• 2:08:27
  I I don't know that Kody specifically said that he he
• 2:08:31
  says something along the lines of, you know, I invited Brett to
• 2:08:39
  Maybe it's because he's not part of the faith.
• 2:08:42
  So he didn't get to go to the actual ceremony, of course.
• 2:08:44
  And then he says, I missed Brett terribly.
• 2:08:47
  It's my wedding day and Brett says that they have to take off
• 2:08:51
  and it was nice to see you when they're leaving.
• 2:08:53
  And it was the only time I felt loneliness that entire day of my
• 2:09:00
  And then there was this long pause and Kody's eyes are welled
• 2:09:10
  And he looks to the side and he looks down, and then he gestures
• 2:09:17
  And I'm, you know, obviously as a dedicated member of the
• 2:09:22
  manosphere, I felt for Kody in this moment.
• 2:09:25
  Oh, my God, I hate when I feel for Kody.
• 2:09:28
  But he was emotional sharing the story.
• 2:09:30
  And he was, he was on the verge of tears and didn't want to talk
• 2:09:37
  intergalactic planetary boyfriend status.
• 2:09:40
  You know, people have cracked jokes online about how, you
• 2:09:44
  know, did Brett and Kody have a fling when they were on a
• 2:09:47
  mission? Was there something else with
• 2:09:50
  their relationship? Why is he so into this fucking
• 2:09:58
  And what does this all mean? I don't think that that
• 2:10:01
  happened, but whatever. Because, you know, my Brett
• 2:10:03
  would never sleep with another man before me.
• 2:10:05
  Never. But.
• 2:10:06
  Kody is really emotional talking about Brett being at his wedding
• 2:10:13
  lonely moment he had in the whole day.
• 2:10:15
  And I, I didn't. My take away wasn't necessarily
• 2:10:18
  that that was the first time they had seen each other.
• 2:10:20
  Maybe it was, but that wasn't my
• 2:10:23
  I see this is where the show sucks at setting us up for
• 2:10:27
  understanding things because I I
• 2:10:30
  first time and that he got the wedding invite from Kody and
• 2:10:35
  it was Kody like reaching out like trying to say like, hey,
• 2:10:38
  I have this event coming up. I'd love to connect with you
• 2:10:42
  again. So for me, I read it as that was
• 2:10:45
  the first time that they had seen each other in five years.
• 2:10:49
  And so it was emotional for him because they reconnected that
• 2:10:55
  day and then it was like he had to leave that same day and.
• 2:10:59
  And then Brett was like peace out, which is the tie in from
• 2:11:03
  when Brett was making this joke about, yeah, I'd come in and
• 2:11:06
  fly out and there's something disjointed about it all.
• 2:11:09
  And you're right, I would blame production because it is
• 2:11:13
  unclear. We had different perceptions
• 2:11:16
  from watching the same scene that it's just, it's hard to
• 2:11:21
  nail down. And I also don't know that it's
• 2:11:23
  really, I don't know. My take away from it is that
• 2:11:27
  it's not so important because my
• 2:11:31
  Kody is literally talking about it in the future and getting
• 2:11:33
  emotional. It made a huge impact for him on
• 2:11:37
  a wedding day and I don't know
• 2:11:42
  Layered on top of the confusion about the date and and how long
• 2:11:45
  they hadn't seen each other and everything is that Brett came
• 2:11:48
  in and came out and I was making a joke about doing that again
• 2:11:51
  and they're laughing while Kody's crying, talking about
• 2:11:55
  it. Swirling mess.
• 2:11:56
  I don't get it. But I did feel bad for Kody and
• 2:12:01
  I hate to say that I feel like I need to take a bath.
• 2:12:04
  I need to take a shower. I guess I find it hard to relate
• 2:12:14
  have just fallen off from over time because we grew apart or
• 2:12:19
  moved or whatever, I don't think I would have that big of an
• 2:12:24
  emotional response if I saw them again and then would be teary
• 2:12:28
  about it, talking about it again later.
• 2:12:30
  And I have had even some really, really good friendships and
• 2:12:36
  badly. And it's heartbreaking.
• 2:12:38
  It is like a breakup and it sucks.
• 2:12:41
  I would say more when it's a friend, sometimes it's it can be
• 2:12:54
  relationship I've had with a friend that I would get that
• 2:12:59
  emotional about today. I don't know.
• 2:13:01
  Maybe if I thought about it, maybe if I saw the person, I
• 2:13:04
  would. I don't know.
• 2:13:05
  It's hard. To know, specifically with the
• 2:13:11
  flying in and flying out when it seemed to have been hard for
• 2:13:15
  Kody to experience that in some way.
• 2:13:18
  So it's hard to follow and well, my question for you about it
• 2:13:24
  though would be when we were watching this, did you feel bad
• 2:13:29
  for Kody, I guess? I empathized with him but also
• 2:13:39
  overreaction. I guess.
• 2:13:40
  I don't know the whole situation and I, that was very apparent
• 2:13:45
  based on his tears and how emotional he got, because he
• 2:13:49
  really is emotional. He's not just, you can tell
• 2:13:52
  there's a lot more there and he doesn't want to let it out.
• 2:13:57
  So yeah, production really lets us down because there are these
• 2:14:01
  moments where they could make a thing of something and let you
• 2:14:08
  They never go there. And it's frustrating because now
• 2:14:17
  that I had a falling out with and we reconnected and then that
• 2:14:31
  thinking about it, I suppose there are a few people in my
• 2:14:33
  life maybe that I would have that reaction too, but I don't
• 2:14:38
  And I think that there's a lot of this drawn back to the faith
• 2:14:46
  and feeling heartbroken maybe for this friend thinking that
• 2:14:50
  they're maybe going to go to hell now if he is a true
• 2:14:55
  believer in his faith. And you think that your friend
• 2:15:03
  disappointed in the fact that they don't have the same faith
• 2:15:09
  with there for somebody that's really religious, and that might
• 2:15:18
  arguably to a big difference between Kody not seeing Brett
• 2:15:23
  for five years and then seeing him on his wedding day.
• 2:15:26
  And then he's like, great to see you got to go versus they
• 2:15:30
  reconnected in some manner. Previously.
• 2:15:32
  We met that friend of Kody's where they had a similar
• 2:15:35
  situation in a previous episode where they reconnected over
• 2:15:38
  business things. And then when they met in person
• 2:15:42
  that they had least had some recent history.
• 2:15:44
  We don't know that about Brett and Kody.
• 2:15:47
  And I didn't even think about that at the time.
• 2:15:49
  I I thought that it wasn't as significant as haven't seen them
• 2:15:58
  So production really does let us down.
• 2:16:01
  It's disappointing, frankly. They would.
• 2:16:03
  Have only been on speaking terms again for two years at this
• 2:16:06
  point because they've been in Vegas for about two years, so it
• 2:16:13
  times they've probably only seen each other since the
• 2:16:16
  wedding. Maybe a couple of times, maybe
• 2:16:19
  not since this, maybe not. At all until.
• 2:16:21
  This I mean, so I can, I guess I
• 2:16:26
  emotional if that is the timeline, which is what I
• 2:16:30
  thought it was, but they don't
• 2:16:33
  God. It sucks when I'm going to
• 2:16:35
  repeat myself, but it just sucks
• 2:16:38
  with Kody because I do not want to have them.
• 2:16:41
  And I'm watching this scene, feeling myself getting
• 2:16:43
  emotional, thinking about, Oh my
• 2:16:46
  experiencing that, I would also be upset and it would hurt.
• 2:16:49
  And I'm like, no, no, no, Chris,
• 2:16:52
  no. Do not allow yourself to have
• 2:16:54
  empathy for this man. You know, it's kind of, it's a
• 2:17:00
  transition to we're now at Meri's house and the sun's up
• 2:17:04
  and it's a whole new day and Meri is going to be doing
• 2:17:08
  something completely not related to an emotional crying wedding,
• 2:17:11
  blah blah blah thing. Meri shows the camera Leon's
• 2:17:15
  graduation photos on an invite to a graduation party.
• 2:17:18
  Was it like an invite? I think it was.
• 2:17:22
  Graduation announcements, she called it, which is weird
• 2:17:25
  because I would think you would have graduation party invites,
• 2:17:32
  She called it. OK.
• 2:17:33
  I was a little confused because I'm going.
• 2:17:35
  I don't know. Are you having a party?
• 2:17:37
  Like what is this? But who knows?
• 2:17:39
  Meri's friend Andrea is going to be heading to the store with
• 2:17:43
  Meri to get fabric and supplies to make a quilt or blanket for
• 2:17:57
  Loudly. Hanging proudly in his dorm room
• 2:18:04
  He gets to say, welcome to my dorm room, babe.
• 2:18:07
  This quilt is from my my dad's fourth wife.
• 2:18:11
  Yeah. No kidding, my dad.
• 2:18:13
  'S fourth wife's sister made this quilt and my dad wrote me a
• 2:18:20
  some bullshit like it was. Something about not sleeping
• 2:18:23
  with people. That was what he was alluding to
• 2:18:30
  quilt had everybody's pictures on it.
• 2:18:33
  So Robyn's sister prints photos onto fabric and then makes
• 2:18:40
  picture quilts. So he got a quilt with all of
• 2:18:44
  his siblings faces on it and all
• 2:18:49
  take to college his freshman year and they.
• 2:18:52
  All wrote him a little like you know well wish on it so he gets
• 2:18:55
  to put that next to his bed so
• 2:18:58
  he gets that precious 20 minutes
• 2:19:02
  from their class and he's going to masturbate he gets to look
• 2:19:04
  over and see his entire family
• 2:19:07
  Beautiful. So wonderful.
• 2:19:08
  Or look down if he's using it,
• 2:19:12
  face staring back up at him as
• 2:19:15
  Oh my God, no. It's.
• 2:19:18
  Either on the wall or on his bed.
• 2:19:20
  Oh my God. Let's hope it's in his trunk or
• 2:19:23
  in a tote in that like wooden closet that you get like he
• 2:19:27
  hopefully it's put away. It wouldn't.
• 2:19:29
  Fit. That thing was freaking huge.
• 2:19:31
  It was massive. It was thick too, like like you
• 2:19:34
  need that, OK. When Meri and Andrea arrive at
• 2:19:38
  the Fabric Boutique, is the name
• 2:19:42
  building. Now, I'm not sure if that's just
• 2:19:47
  it's the name of the business. Either way, I'm intrigued and
• 2:19:49
  I'd like to go spend some money there.
• 2:19:52
  They walk in and I was. I was moved by all of the
• 2:19:59
  beautiful quilts on the wall of the store, huge quilts on the
• 2:20:04
  walls of every color and texture, and good old grandma
• 2:20:10
  old fashioned vibe. I just had to point that out for
• 2:20:22
  In fabric, that's what it was.
• 2:20:25
  covered in quilts. A.
• 2:20:27
  Lot of fabric and a lot of quilts and Meri wants to make
• 2:20:30
  sure that she gets Westminster
• 2:20:34
  obviously what what colors would
• 2:20:36
  Westminster colors? They did that for Logan's
• 2:20:39
  wonderful quilt. So Meri's going to pick fabrics
• 2:20:43
  of purple and gold. We get some voiceovers from Meri
• 2:20:48
  where she's talking about how most plague wives have so many
• 2:20:52
  kids that when their oldest one leaves the house, they still
• 2:20:55
  have so many children left that they have many years left with
• 2:20:59
  this family. And we're just going to bring up
• 2:21:01
  this whole empty nester thing.
• 2:21:05
  in that culturally, not only is it, you know, someone living in
• 2:21:09
  the monogamous world and whatever and only having one
• 2:21:11
  child and navigating that through life, especially if they
• 2:21:14
  wanted to have more kids. But then in her culture, so many
• 2:21:17
  of these women have so many kids.
• 2:21:20
  And so it's kind of just another
• 2:21:23
  about Meri's expectations of her
• 2:21:26
  probably thought, well, you know, when Leah, not that she
• 2:21:30
  thought specifically, when Leon goes to college, I'll have
• 2:21:32
  other kids, but there aren't any other children for her.
• 2:21:35
  And everyone else in her culture
• 2:21:39
  child wearing ahead of them, you know?
• 2:21:41
  What I didn't think of as well is that by the time a lot of
• 2:21:46
  these women are empty nesters, they might have grandkids.
• 2:21:50
  So they never get empty nest syndrome because they
• 2:21:54
  technically never have an empty nest because then they're
• 2:21:58
  helping with grandkids. So this might be a super weird
• 2:22:08
  That does even make it more unique.
• 2:22:10
  I'm so glad that you pointed that out because really that is
• 2:22:14
  common thing in the polygamous culture right?
• 2:22:17
  Multigenerational. I'm older than my uncle vibes
• 2:22:21
  and Meri is raising a child that not only is going to college and
• 2:22:30
  having that happen for her. Yeah.
• 2:22:32
  Oh God. See this.
• 2:22:34
  Oh. Don't make me feel bad for.
• 2:22:36
  Meri No. I don't.
• 2:22:37
  I'm not going to do that. We're not going to harp on it.
• 2:22:47
  this. We're trying, we're trying to
• 2:22:50
  connect and understand where they're coming from.
• 2:22:53
  So. And I promise our keep sweet
• 2:22:55
  this episode won't be a repeat from last week.
• 2:22:59
  We do. Try.
• 2:23:00
  Sometimes I swear we do. But this does tee up another
• 2:23:04
  moment for you know, Meri to share how Kody is not in the
• 2:23:07
  same situation as her. Because not only is she an empty
• 2:23:13
  Her partner in crime, The love of her life in air quotes isn't
• 2:23:17
  even in the same experience at all with her.
• 2:23:20
  That would fucking suck to not even be able to have your spouse
• 2:23:27
  If anything, if they were on good terms, he'd be using her
• 2:23:30
  house as an escape to get away
• 2:23:35
  have that man time alone. And he would think of it as a
• 2:23:39
  reprieve where she is there all the time alone.
• 2:23:44
  And it's totally different. Yeah.
• 2:23:47
  They don't even have that. Oh God.
• 2:23:51
  She. Feels like she's going to do
• 2:23:53
  this completely alone and I just
• 2:23:56
  quote in because she feels that.
• 2:23:57
  Do you? Feel that way, Meri?
• 2:23:59
  You're probably not wrong. That's where we end it.
• 2:24:04
  We end on a high note, as per usual.
• 2:24:08
  They really. Do like to leave us feeling good
• 2:24:13
  Do how many times have we ended and we're like well left us on a
• 2:24:21
  Oh my gosh, before we do our mustard seeds, shit stains and
• 2:24:30
  out a few comments from a recent episode that we received
• 2:24:32
  on Spotify because I think some of our listeners might find
• 2:24:36
  these to be interesting resources.
• 2:24:39
  And you know, we'd love to share
• 2:24:42
  We're sharing knowledge, we're
• 2:24:45
  light, love and a closeness to
• 2:24:48
  And on a rewatch of season 6, episode 9, Sister Wives on the
• 2:24:52
  ropes, we got a couple of these comments.
• 2:24:55
  One is from Fab Poppy and Fab Poppy tells us that Christine
• 2:24:59
  Marie. Now, as we remember, Christine
• 2:25:01
  Marie is on the episode for the panel, right, which we're
• 2:25:05
  talking about the panel episode.
• 2:25:06
  And Christine Marie was the one that had the Netflix
• 2:25:09
  documentary. Trust me, the false prophet.
• 2:25:12
  Yes, thank. You honey.
• 2:25:14
  Thank you. And her daughter Lola has a
• 2:25:17
  really good cult podcast called Trust Me, which is funny because
• 2:25:25
  her mother's story about her own polygamous cult experience.
• 2:25:27
  And Fab Poppy was suggesting it
• 2:25:30
  for anyone interested in hearing
• 2:25:33
  experience or her daughters experience I have.
• 2:25:35
  Listened to that podcast, not the one specifically about
• 2:25:38
  Christine Marie, but I have listened to the podcast in
• 2:25:42
  general and it's good. Oh.
• 2:25:44
  So you would also recommend, trust me to our listeners when
• 2:25:47
  you recommended that book by Jessup.
• 2:25:51
  That was a good listen. So I love these recommendations.
• 2:25:54
  Another one is from Nikki the Vandal and Nikki says, not sure
• 2:25:58
  if it's been mentioned, but Colleen is on ATV show called
• 2:26:02
  Escaping Polygamy, which we didn't reference when we were
• 2:26:05
  talking about Colleen. I don't know what network that
• 2:26:08
  show is on. Honey, have you seen that show?
• 2:26:10
  I. Haven't the name rings a bell
• 2:26:14
  and I might have randomly seen a
• 2:26:18
  the top of my head recall it when.
• 2:26:21
  Searching for Colleen's name online, there's all these
• 2:26:23
  references to this escaping polygamy show.
• 2:26:25
  So that could be a future deep dive for us.
• 2:26:28
  So in our case, a shallow dive. We'll see what ends up
• 2:26:32
  happening, but another thing to look into with Colleen is
• 2:26:35
  Escaping polygamy as ATV show. Why don't you go first with your
• 2:26:45
  Why don't I have you do it this time, Sir?
• 2:26:50
  Well, I. Feel like the belle of the ball.
• 2:26:52
  I've never felt prettier, younger or thinner.
• 2:26:55
  Thank you, honey. I'm tempted to give Brett my
• 2:26:59
  mustard seed, but I do have a conscience.
• 2:27:04
  I do have a soul and I'd like to
• 2:27:06
  So even though he is a sexy man that could wrestle me and pin
• 2:27:11
  me down and push me into the ground and make me get covered
• 2:27:15
  in the filth that's on those wrestling mats, you really?
• 2:27:18
  Want to do the horizontal hokey pokey with Brett?
• 2:27:21
  I just didn't. Know listen, if Brett never
• 2:27:25
  talked and Brett never did anything except for please me,
• 2:27:30
  I'd be down. But my mustard seed in this
• 2:27:35
  episode has to go to 1 Christine
• 2:27:41
  allowed Kody to put those filthy fucking mats in her garage and
• 2:27:46
  all she did was ask for a one-on-one conversation to get
• 2:27:51
  some extra perks. OK, let's not let's not say
• 2:27:54
  extra perks to be treated probably like some other wives
• 2:27:58
  in his life and ask for some reasonable things.
• 2:28:02
  And we didn't even get to hear
• 2:28:04
  Her asks were and I you mentioned the mic packs might
• 2:28:08
  have been turned off. Maybe they were.
• 2:28:10
  Maybe it was production being like we're not even going to put
• 2:28:12
  the audio. Who knows what it was.
• 2:28:15
  But I'm giving her my mustard seed because frankly, I think
• 2:28:19
  she should have said no, But you
• 2:28:24
  thing. I mean, the Mormon fundamental,
• 2:28:26
  I mean the cult member thing and
• 2:28:28
  that. And also I was a huge fan of her
• 2:28:38
  high it could shatter thin glass.
• 2:28:41
  And when she was screeching, Oh my gosh, I had flashbacks to
• 2:28:46
  flash forwards to let me call you sweetheart, which is
• 2:28:50
  something that you all have to
• 2:28:53
  future. And it's a rarity for me to give
• 2:28:57
  Christine a mustard seed. So I'm just going to celebrate
• 2:28:59
  myself as one of the leaders of the manosphere and as someone
• 2:29:02
  who gave Christine a mustard seed.
• 2:29:05
  Well, I hope I didn't steal yours.
• 2:29:07
  Who's your mustard seed guy? You sure?
• 2:29:08
  Did, because she was kind of the
• 2:29:13
  doing anything special. But yeah.
• 2:29:16
  You. Know I am going to give it to
• 2:29:19
  Meri here and hear me out. She did get very annoying with
• 2:29:26
  her. Oh yeah, woe is me kind of with
• 2:29:31
  Leon moving out and then not smelling what the other sister
• 2:29:37
  Ives were stepping in when they were trying to give her options
• 2:29:40
  and like, oh, what do you want
• 2:29:41
  You want the kids around more?
• 2:29:43
  No, she just didn't even pick up
• 2:29:46
  But she did help little truly get to hold the snake and she
• 2:29:52
  helped Christine do it as well.
• 2:29:55
  I didn't mind the way that it ended with her connecting with a
• 2:30:03
  Her friend Andrea is an empty nester as well and I think it's
• 2:30:07
  smart for her to be connecting with other people in her life
• 2:30:11
  that are in a similar situation that can relate to her right
• 2:30:14
  now. So for those few reasons, she is
• 2:30:24
  Who's going to get your schmear in your underwear this week?
• 2:30:29
  Well I had our usual king and queen options of the shit stain
• 2:30:35
  royal family, but of. Course.
• 2:30:37
  And I'm going to opt for the one that is the neck that turns the
• 2:30:42
  head. I'm going to opt for Robyn.
• 2:30:46
  Hate animals, hate animals. You hate animals.
• 2:30:51
  Yershit stain. Period.
• 2:30:53
  Who says they hate animals? Oh my God disgusting.
• 2:30:57
  A psych, a nut job. Someone who literally should not
• 2:31:04
  She made some of the ugliest faces I have ever seen on
• 2:31:09
  television in this episode. The shocking couch reactions to
• 2:31:13
  the animals and the snake or the the I know the camel, the
• 2:31:19
  camel, the whiskers. She acted like it was like she
• 2:31:28
  Also looking so disinterested while Meri was sharing her
• 2:31:33
  feelings on the couch. It was subtle.
• 2:31:35
  If you're watching it for the first time you might not even
• 2:31:38
  catch it. But the way that Robyn was
• 2:31:40
  sitting next to Meri as Meri is sharing these heartfelt things
• 2:31:49
  bawling. And Robyn's, she straight up
• 2:31:51
  look like a 13 year old to me. And not to put down any 13 year
• 2:31:55
  olds, just in her own mind, disinterested, probably
• 2:31:58
  readjusting her pants. And you know, whatever.
• 2:32:02
  Shocking. The bitch fucking sucks.
• 2:32:05
  And we say that all the time. And Robyn, if you're listening
• 2:32:21
  social media platforms where you're defending yourself.
• 2:32:24
  Gross The. Dog kicking the.
• 2:32:27
  Dog I. Didn't know about that.
• 2:32:30
  Kicking I. Didn't know about that.
• 2:32:32
  I know, Let's call it alleged. Until one of our adored
• 2:32:35
  listeners gives us the evidence that we need.
• 2:32:38
  It's just a conspiracy and it's all alleged, but Oh my God, I
• 2:32:42
  can't. I don't even know right now why
• 2:32:44
  I'm getting so passionate about this shit stain.
• 2:32:46
  I just Robyn the hating the animals.
• 2:32:48
  I don't even know. I just can't.
• 2:32:51
  I can't. It's.
• 2:32:52
  Weird. It's a huge red flag and it's
• 2:32:54
  weird. And if she did kick a dog at one
• 2:33:07
  and saw. And if she can shoe shoe a
• 2:33:11
  little child away like they're a speck of dirt, then imagine a
• 2:33:15
  dog allegedly. Allegedly.
• 2:33:17
  It's all alleged. Yeah.
• 2:33:18
  It could just be because I need to get my vision checked.
• 2:33:21
  You know, I might need the same glasses that you have.
• 2:33:23
  Maybe I'm making it all up. It's it could all just be a
• 2:33:26
  figment of my imagination. Prove.
• 2:33:28
  Us wrong, Prove us right. Find the photos Thank you.
• 2:33:31
  Thank you. Evidence.
• 2:33:32
  Prove us something, all right, darling.
• 2:33:35
  So now your shit stain. I wonder who you're going to
• 2:33:38
  give it to are. You ready for this?
• 2:33:40
  Well, you've. Got a couple options and I'm
• 2:33:42
  curious to. You give it to Ava and Brett as
• 2:33:47
  a couple. I think that might be breaking
• 2:33:50
  rules. Damn, then I feel like I have to
• 2:33:57
  so he's the one that's leading them down this treacherous path
• 2:34:05
  of heteronormative bullshit. And self admitted leader, he's
• 2:34:12
  together. So he is so.
• 2:34:14
  I think he put her up to asking the wives specific questions.
• 2:34:19
  I think that they probably bitch about the Browns together behind
• 2:34:29
  like all of his wives. If anything, maybe he's a fan of
• 2:34:40
  their backs just based on those questions that Ava asked.
• 2:34:44
  They felt very pointed and like
• 2:34:47
  they were leading to try to get the wives to a conclusion that
• 2:34:51
  maybe they need to treat their
• 2:34:56
  And I don't like the way that he
• 2:35:02
  being the man of the household
• 2:35:06
  Then Kody was just as yucky because he jumped on board with
• 2:35:09
  it and tried to, you know, macho
• 2:35:13
  And Sean, you tried to stay out of it.
• 2:35:17
  I could tell that he was like trying to stay out of it.
• 2:35:20
  But those conversations are the ones where we need good men to
• 2:35:25
  stand up to each other and be like, look, not in my household.
• 2:35:29
  And This is why. And she's just as capable of
• 2:35:32
  making the final decision as I
• 2:35:34
  So sometimes I do defer to my wife when it's her purview, her
• 2:35:40
  type of thing. And sometimes she defers.
• 2:35:43
  To me, it would have been a good
• 2:35:46
  but that didn't happen. So Brett is a shit stain.
• 2:35:51
  He led the manosphere pack. He led the conversations with
• 2:35:55
  the men to these places where they were shitting on their
• 2:36:00
  wives, essentially talking about
• 2:36:04
  And I don't know, I I didn't like his vibes.
• 2:36:09
  I think Kody probably cares more
• 2:36:12
  Kody. This maybe was an opportunity
• 2:36:15
  for him to be on TV. Like, I don't know.
• 2:36:17
  I just did not like his vibe and
• 2:36:21
  either. She was sitting on the tailgate
• 2:36:24
  of that moving truck that was moving those mats and judging
• 2:36:28
  the fuck out of them the whole
• 2:36:31
  They showed her face. They showed her sitting there
• 2:36:34
  during the conversation about whose garage it was going to go
• 2:36:36
  in and she was judging MC Judgerton.
• 2:36:41
  I didn't like it and I just got a very weird icky feeling about
• 2:36:46
  them as a couple. He's going to get my shit
• 2:36:49
  stained. If they both could, they would.
• 2:36:52
  Hopefully his smears onto her a little bit something like that
• 2:36:58
  while she's cleaning his shoes
• 2:37:01
  maybe. Their laundry gets intertwined
• 2:37:03
  and some of that shit ends up on
• 2:37:05
  She ended up cleaning it up. That's probably what would
• 2:37:08
  happen. So yeah, she's.
• 2:37:10
  Definitely cleaning up his shit for sure.
• 2:37:12
  Unfortunately, because I am such
• 2:37:16
  manosphere, I have to say I agree with your shit stain.
• 2:37:20
  Even though Brett could be my Big Dipper any day.
• 2:37:24
  Sad place for me to be sad. Please help dirty.
• 2:37:26
  Whore mouth, then sure. Yeah, I would.
• 2:37:31
  Take bread. If you agreed with everything I
• 2:37:33
  said and said that I was right
• 2:37:35
  worshipped me, but you know, OK,
• 2:37:39
  All right, Chris, tell me our keep suite for the week.
• 2:37:43
  I would like to hear something
• 2:37:47
  heard before. Can you share with me please
• 2:37:50
  take me on a journey. I love this so much.
• 2:37:55
  I love this so much. Our keep sweet moment this week
• 2:37:58
  comes to us from a listener on
• 2:38:04
  Polygamy questions answered that
• 2:38:08
  the family did. This comment comes to us from
• 2:38:12
  user Uber Wino. Can we give them a keep suite
• 2:38:16
  for the username Uber Wino? I mean seriously, like.
• 2:38:18
  It I like it. Obviously love Uber Wino as a
• 2:38:21
  username I can identify. The older I get, the less Uber
• 2:38:26
  Wino I am. But I still do enjoy a nice
• 2:38:29
  glass of wine. And I think you do too, darling.
• 2:38:32
  I've seen you drink a glass or
• 2:38:35
  I do enjoy a wine Uber. Wino says listening to your
• 2:38:39
  podcast feels like hanging out
• 2:38:42
  Kris and Kimber never fail to make me snort laugh when they
• 2:38:45
  call out the adults and the kids
• 2:38:51
  favorite podcast. I love that because I have seen
• 2:38:55
  comments on some other people's content where people are all,
• 2:38:59
  oh, you talk about the children and it's so fair enough.
• 2:39:03
  I mean if you're just going to
• 2:39:05
  about minors, that would fucking
• 2:39:08
  But the. Majority of the show is about a
• 2:39:10
  family and the majority of that family are minors, so
• 2:39:13
  unfortunately we're going to have to talk about the children
• 2:39:16
  at this point. Giving me a reason to keep
• 2:39:19
  going, especially after the tragic mistake of reading the
• 2:39:24
  same keeps Week 2 weeks. In a row.
• 2:39:28
  I'm going to offer an official
• 2:39:31
  losers. Honey, is there anything you'd
• 2:39:33
  like to add to my official apology?
• 2:39:35
  That's basically just saying sorry, no.
• 2:39:37
  You know what? I don't apologize because I
• 2:39:41
  think that it was a pleasant one
• 2:39:47
  hear it a third if I could. Double.
• 2:39:50
  Down. I'm going to double down like
• 2:39:53
  Meri would, yes. Very merry of you.
• 2:39:57
  I love it. I love it.
• 2:39:59
  Oh, my goodness. Well, thank you, everyone for
• 2:40:01
  making it through another episode with us.
• 2:40:03
  You know what we didn't do this episode?
• 2:40:05
  We didn't promise that it was going to be short and we didn't
• 2:40:08
  lie. We.
• 2:40:10
  Delivered a long 1 yet again.