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  No ID is meant for a sane audience. No ID may
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  contain Liberty -oriented content. PINCO discretion
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  is advised. Now, here's No ID with Paul Banducci
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  and Scott Moskowitz. Hey, everybody. Welcome
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  back to No ID, North Idaho's mainstream media
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  deconstruct. I'm Scott. I'm Paul. Hello, internet.
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  And same room once again, we are I'm looking
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  right at you. You're a handsome man. It feels
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  good Good to be called handsome. I mean, oh Well,
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  it feels good to be here Yeah for the right the
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  right place and the right vibes but for maybe
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  not the best reason yeah now I had to come down
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  to get a consultation from my busted -ass foot
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  and here we are But I thought, hey, it's recording
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  day. Today's recording day. So I called up Scott
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  and said, I got to be down in town anyways. Why
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  don't we just stare into each other's beautiful
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  blue eyes? Well, yours are kind of hazel. Well,
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  yours are yours are being magnified. By your
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  glasses. Making fun of my BCGs. Very hip glasses.
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  You know, it's funny how things change because
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  in the 50s, these were referred to as birth control
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  glasses, the thick rims, the whole, you know,
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  these are fucking Coke bottles, man. Like in
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  the, in the wild, I would be considered easy
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  prey because I can't see for shit without them.
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  But, uh, you know, how times change. Now all
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  I gotta do is throw on a beanie and wear these
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  glasses and I'm hip. Yeah. No one's called you
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  four eyes and at least a generation. No, no.
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  I can play D &D in these glasses and still nobody
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  makes fun of me. What a time to be alive. I think
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  that's the problem, Scott. I think that's actually
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  partly why society has collapsed is because we
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  don't bully nerds like we used to. Nerds are
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  not cool, man. Oh, nerds are in. No, no, they're
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  not. Still jocks, dude. It's the jocks are still
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  where it's at. Tell that to the Super Bowl. All
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  right, let's let's get right into it. Do it.
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  I have a lot of good stuff Paul came wildly unprepared.
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  Yeah, he's got no laptop. He's got no articles
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  He's got no nothing and that's okay. He's you
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  know, medical emergency takes precedence. I guess
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  I get it Luckily, I am over prepared It's gonna
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  be just one running session of ask Paul basically,
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  you know what lurch from topic to topic and I
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  have no idea what's coming next Why don't we
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  start we did it last week because I was trying
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  to cheer you up and you brought it up again So,
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  you know what? Why not? Once again, let's just
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  start with us Paul The city of Post Falls recently
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  announced it will remove an unnecessary sales
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  tax on residential utility bills Well, this tax
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  was for garbage collection services in the city
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  of Post Falls decided the tax was unnecessary
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  now since then After a statement from the Idaho
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  State Tax Commission, now the city of Post Falls
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  is yet again reviewing this decision. The city
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  of Post Falls announced on January 26, they eliminated
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  an unnecessary sales tax that was on residential
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  utility bills. With the help of the Idaho State
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  Tax Commission, the city says they found residents
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  had already paid the use tax on garbage bins
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  at the time of original purchase, meaning the
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  use tax should not come out again. on their monthly
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  bill. The city says the tax charge was about
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  88 cents per month. After removing the tax, households
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  would save $10 to $15 per year. After the announcement
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  was made to remove the tax, I reached out to
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  the Idaho State Tax Commission about the decision.
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  I received an email back stating, what do you
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  think? The commission said to this quote, journalist
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  lady state tax commission. What is it? I reached
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  out to the Idaho state tax commission about the
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  decision. You can tell she did because you hear
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  her typing in the background about the decision.
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  I received an email backstating. It makes me
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  think of the Minnesota, the investigations going
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  on over Minnesota. We're like, we investigated
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  whether or not day cares exist. And it's just
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  them going, hey, are you a legit business? Yes.
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  Yes, we are. There you have it. No fraud happening
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  here. Hey, dispatch the rioters to the streets
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  to distract the public, will you? Oh, this mic's
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  still on? I think we should dispatch the rioters
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  to the streets. $0 .88 cents on my garbage can.
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  Get bent. actually, you know, they've, they talked
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  about three taxes in this sound clip. There's
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  like use tax sales tax and like garbage sanitation
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  tax or some damn thing. Good Lord. What do you
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  think? Idaho tax commission probably said, this
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  is going to take more time and effort than it's
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  worth. And this is, you know, We disagree with
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  less taxes something to that. Oh, yeah I received
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  an email back stating under more review the Tax
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  Commission gave the City of Post Falls the wrong
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  opinion Residents cannot get a sales tax refund
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  because the garbage service is actually taxable
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  94 of the Idaho sales and use tax administrative
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  rules Stop this right now. Stop the sound bite.
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  Okay. Do you know how we used to make fun of?
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  How at some point they were gonna figure out
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  how to tax oxygen. It's worse. They are taxing
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  our garbage That's it game over man. No, they're
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  not even taxing our air now. They're taxing our
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  garbage They're taxing the shit we throw away
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  Scott and when the city tries to do something
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  nice the state tax commission stills like Nah,
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  keep taxing them filthy plebes tax. They're rubbish.
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  Hey, we would like to save our customers about
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  88 cents a month. What do you think? No can do
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  I can't like we couldn't make this up if we tried
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  I couldn't write I couldn't write this I don't
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  think George Orwell could write this referred
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  me to the city of Post Falls for an update on
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  the tax removal now post fall leaders leaders
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  leaders tell me they are now reviewing the status
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  of this tax removal and they will give an update
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  a later date. What do you think they're gonna
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  decide? What will the determination be? I hate
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  to be that guy because you know how anti Everything
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  I am really But I wonder whatever it is Paul's
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  against it. I am against it. The answer is no
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  But now you have to wonder how many man hours
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  have been spent on this issue It like I'm obviously
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  pro get rid of this tax. This is ridiculous However,
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  there's a certain point at which how much money
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  is the City of Post Falls potentially spending
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  on staff to review this issue? versus what it's
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  going to save the individual taxpayer. Now, I
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  guess maybe what it's going to save en masse
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  as like the city post falls as a whole, maybe
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  that might pencil out. So maybe if you're looking
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  at those numbers, that might pencil out. But
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  on an individual level, let's say 15 bucks a
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  household and the average city employee makes
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  anywhere from $60 ,000 to $120 ,000 a year. I
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  don't think the math maths. Good try though.
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  I have to say this good try. I really do appreciate
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  the city of post falls trying. I mean it You
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  played the do the twilight zone music because
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  it is like the twilight zone anytime. They actually
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  take away attacks Yeah, yes, that's yes. Thank
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  you city of post falls. Thank you. So very deeply
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  Maybe a trombone. Whomp. Whomp. You tried maybe
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  if we save enough of our we get like enough 88
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  cents at a time handed back to us, maybe we could
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  actually buy a house in Post Falls. Home prices
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  in Kootenai County hit a more than three year
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  high in January. The median price for a single
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  family home climbed to $562 ,000. That is up
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  6 .4 % from a year ago. topping the previous
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  peak that was set in 2022. There were 667 active
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  listings last week while 143 homes sold in January.
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  Realtors say the market is gaining momentum earlier
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  than usual and prices could continue to rise
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  throughout the year. Yeah, the market's gaining
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  momentum earlier than usual because it's look
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  outside the look out the window. It's it's like
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  May. Prices are up and realtors rejoice. This
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  breaking news. Realtors say the market has momentum.
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  Yeah, and home prices are up six percent, which
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  means so are my commissions. Meanwhile, I know
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  housing is expensive. We should probably make
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  it cheaper, but I'm not gonna because a lot of
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  people have all their wealth in their house and
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  we don't want to make it too cheap. We don't
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  want people who haven't worked hard to be able
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  to afford a house. So fuck you, everyone under
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  the age of 65. Fuck you. If you have money to
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  spend, this is actually kind of a longer presentation
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  here on houses and money as it pertains to contractors
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  and what is the latest push with regards to regulations
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  because Idaho does not license contractors. You
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  don't have to have a license, you have to be
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  on a registry. But they're trying to change that.
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  If you can imagine, of course they are. Last
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  night we showed you Idaho's relaxed contractor
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  registration rules and how they're harming homeowners.
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  The division of occupational and professional
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  licenses is getting more and more complaints
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  about contractors each year, with nearly 400
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  submitted in just the last seven months. Idahoans
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  are losing millions of dollars. Idaho prides
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  itself on being business friendly. Spoiler alert
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  it right now. I'm gonna is like, well, occupational
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  licensing isn't going to fix this issue. It never
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  does. Well, that's okay. Well, you know, we don't
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  go anywhere to any state. Go over to Washington
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  where they where you are heavily licensed. And
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  guess what? I wonder how many complaints they
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  have. Probably a lot. I mean, like everywhere
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  you go, contractors suck. Everybody hates them.
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  There's this, you know, I think it's a level
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  of Dante's Inferno. Hell is Like level eight
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  is where you have to go and get a subcontractor
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  to show up on time and stay within the bounds
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  of the estimate. It never happens. It's like
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  the eighth level of hell. The premise is like
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  you're you just kind of it's not a spoiler exactly.
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  But I mean, that is sort of the overriding thing
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  here, which is through this whole presentation,
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  because it's the mainstream media who's always
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  arguing on behalf of bigger government. The premise
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  is that more regulations on contractors equals
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  less fraud perpetrated on homeowners. But it's
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  not true. It never works out that way. Furthermore,
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  everything anytime they tell you it's for consumer
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  protection, the consumer always pays more. The
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  consumer has less choice and higher prices in
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  the end. And oftentimes the quality of service
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  doesn't improve. The quality of product doesn't
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  improve. You just now have fewer choices and
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  you spend more money. Idaho prides itself on
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  being business friendly with low barriers to
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  entry and very minimal regulation. That was one
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  of the main reasons lawmakers passed the Contractor
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  Registration Act rather than licensing in the
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  early 2000s with input from the Home Builders
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  Association. And the legislature even at that
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  time in 2005 was not keen on the idea of quote
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  licensing and so ultimately what we settled on
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  was the compromise which is now the registration.
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  In Idaho, most general contractors working jobs
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  over $2 ,000 have to register with the state
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  contractors board and get liability insurance.
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  But there's no requirement for formal training
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  experience. or a test contractors can register
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  under multiple names or businesses, including
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  those who lose their registration or license
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  anywhere in the country. Many of those bad actors
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  are coming from other states where their license
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  have been revoked and we don't have the ability
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  to revoke a license because we don't have licensing.
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  It was an eye opener. Brad Toft is a construction
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  lender providing financing for building or renovating
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  properties. He recently dealt with his own home
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  building headaches, dealing with contractors
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  who he says did. shoddy work on his new house.
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  Was that surprising to you when you moved to
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  the state of Idaho? Number one, that it's just
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  a registration and not a license. And number
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  two, that there is no education or competency
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  evaluation. It was a big surprise people. I know
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  I get it though. I do get this as somebody who
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  spent 100 grand that I didn't have. On shoddy
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  workmanship when we bought what we call a Clark
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  Fork special. up in Clark Fork, Idaho, when we
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  moved up there in late 2019 and discovered mold
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  in the roof, mold in the floors, all kinds of
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  corners cut, all kinds of issues. It was a self
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  -build. I mean, you name an issue, we found it
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  and had to correct it. Not to pat myself on my
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  own back here, but if anybody can speak to this
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  and lived the experience and spent the money
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  and the time and the aggravation and had a house
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  tore apart for two straight years, it was me.
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  And even still, I wouldn't have it any other
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  way as far as the licensure goes, because being
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  licensure or not, that shit happens every day.
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  Talk to anybody in the area, regardless of who
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  they've hired, some with license, no license,
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  big, small, almost everybody's got a bad story
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  about not to say that all contractors are bad,
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  but everybody has a story about a bad contractor.
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  And that's not just Idaho, that's everywhere.
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  So this doesn't solve the problem. It's frustrating.
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  So but what's frustrating is they're going to
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  use this, of course, as an opportunity to expand
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  government power, make occupational licensing
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  even even stronger. They talk about the home.
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  the Home Builders Board or whatever that is.
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  Well, guess who's going to sit on that thing?
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  People who are already at the top, people who
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  already have power and the money, and now they
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  get decision -making power on who gets to enter
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  the market, how, when, and why. So they're gatekeepers.
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  Occupational licensing is gatekeeping. And I
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  know if you've been screwed over by a contractor,
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  you might be thinking, well, that's good. We
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  should gatekeep people. Well, no, because if
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  the market sorts that out, if they're good, you
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  know they get referred they stay in business
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  their reputation builds the market dictates they
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  get to survive their business works if they're
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  not good they don't stick around for long they
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  do pop up again and again sometimes but they
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  don't they don't have staying power and that
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  comes down to just being you know be community
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  -minded talk to people right get feedback that's
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  why review sites exist you can review people
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  there's lots of ways to review people are they
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  good were they bad there's a lot of ways to do
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  this without crushing the good actors while you're
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  trying to stomp out the bad actors. It was a
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  big surprise. People don't know the distinction
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  between registration and licensing, and they
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  don't know what the requirements are. So they
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  look up something in a database and they're like,
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  OK, well, they're licensed, so there must be
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  some sort of vetting. The trade off to a lenient
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  system. So he asked for half upfront, half a
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  front homeowners like the role of sins. You need
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  materials and you need to pay his sub. Note,
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  by the way, the music in the background designed
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  to create very honest unease. Yeah. What did
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  you say? Very ominous, ominous, exactly. Ominous
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  and uneasy. Well, what they're going to do here
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  is also paint consumers as helpless and like
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  and it's the it's kind of the bigotry of low
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  expectations extended instead of a race situation
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  like it usually is. We're like, you know, black
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  people can't get are too stupid to get driver's
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  licenses. That's why we that's why voter idea
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  laws are racist. It's like, do you realize what
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  you just did there? Clearly not. You're the racist.
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  That would require self -reflection. Right? Yeah.
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  But in this case, it's just consumers are stupid
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  and we need to protect them from themselves.
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  Well, as an adult, it's your job to advocate
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  for yourself. As a consumer, it's your job to
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  do your research. And in the day of the incredible,
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  edible internet where everything is out there
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  for everybody to see and you can talk to anybody
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  anywhere at any fucking time, do your research.
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  You need materials and you need to pay his subcontractors,
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  which sound at the time realistic can be left
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  vulnerable and he just continues to just make
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  excuses just constantly making excuses where
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  he finally just eventually goes to me. Their
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  deck contractor took nearly 20 grand in a deposit
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  and never started their project. Note the language.
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  No, they did not take 20 grand in a deposit.
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  They were voluntarily given 20 grand by this
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  homeowner who got taken for a ride. But there's
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  no no responsibility for the individual as usual.
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  That's the overarching theme with all this stuff.
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  The individual is not responsible for anything.
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  They're too stupid to advocate for themselves
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  or to know what they're doing. So therefore they
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  need the government to do it for them. Lazy,
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  stupid, whatever you want to call it, maybe a
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  combination of both. Now, I'm not trying to sit
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  here and and blame the victim or victim shame.
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  That's not what we're trying to do either. But
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  you do have a responsibility as an individual
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  and as an adult to make all of these kinds of
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  decisions in your life. You know, this is what
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  being an adult is. I'm not saying it's a, it
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  sucks to get taken like this. And it's going
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  to happen with licensing or not. It might happen
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  slightly less, but the damage done to the market
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  when you stomp out a lot of the good actors too,
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  is going to be more than, than what you're going
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  to receive from stomping out some of these type
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  of actors. And this goes along, you know how
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  we always laugh about like, we should just tear
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  the safety labels off of everything and let God
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  sort it all out, right? We do live in a baby
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  -proofed, safety -proofed, safety -proofed, safety
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  -fied society where every chance we get, if one
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  bad thing happens, now all of a sudden we have
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  to cover everything in a bubble wrap for everybody.
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  And it's insulting, actually. But people, they
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  do want it. A lot of people do. Just for the
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  record, I do use a Xacto knife and a heat gun
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  to remove warning labels from essentially everything
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  I own. I hate them. I hate them. I hate them
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  and in a deposit. I'm not kidding. I really do.
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  I ripped the tags off my mattress. Come and get
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  me feds under penalty of law and in a deposit
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  and never started their project. I think you
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  need to balance an openness to small business
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  with protecting consumers. The people paying
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  for it was are the ones the ones being separated
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  from their money. Generally speaking, the consumer
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  should be. There is no greater entity. At separating
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  you from your money and the government. Hello
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  are the ones the ones being separated from their
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  money. Generally speaking, the consumer should
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  be given priority. Hello, how can Idaho protect
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  consumers by leaving us alone challenge that
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  we're facing is essentially narrowing this gap
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  so that homeowners are not taking advantage of
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  while at the same time, contractors that are
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  doing good work aren't being overly burdened.
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  Homeowners are being taken advantage of and contractors
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  are being overburdened by the state. The state
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  aren't being overly burdened. I think it's a
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  great balance between consumer protection and
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  still maintaining our really lowly regulated
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  state. The Division of Occupational and Professional
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  Licenses, Doppel, oversees the Contractors Board.
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  They pitched legislation last year to give Idaho's
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  contractor registry. I now know of another agency
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  I want to abolish right now. That's an agency
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  I didn't even know existed until right now, and
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  I want to abolish it. To give Idaho's Contractor
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  Registration Act more teeth. This really just
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  gives Dopple a tool to say, you know, slow down.
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  You are already a real bad actor. Here's the
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  evidence. You know, we're going to be able to
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  pause that registration. The bill never made
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  it out of committee. Contractor registration
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  was never meant to be. what I believe this is
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  going at right here. Part of their knee -jerk
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  reaction is anything that appears to be more
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  regulation, more bureaucracy, they kind of view
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  as a barrier to entry. Yes, because it is. No,
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  no, no, it's a knee -jerk reaction. It's not
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  thought through at all. The problem with getting
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  this passed is that the people who would vote
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  on it sought for what it does. And that's disappointing.
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  They had a knee jerk reaction. We whacked their
• 19:29
  knee cap with the rubber thing and their leg
• 19:31
  flew right up into the air. No thought required.
• 19:33
  Maybe if we just shave off that 88 cents they
• 19:36
  tax garbage with and start a fund for homeowners
• 19:39
  who have been snookered by their deck builders,
• 19:43
  a reparations fund for ignorant homeowners. That's
• 19:47
  what I propose. See, they kind of view as a barrier
• 19:51
  to entry. And, you know, and that's just the
• 19:54
  philosophy and the attitude. I have been arguing
• 19:57
  with legislators that in our case, in this case,
• 20:00
  that this is a... But we're special. It's not
• 20:02
  a philosophy or an attitude. It's just the literal
• 20:04
  truth. Like, you can say that that's a good thing,
• 20:07
  and here's why, but it's not just a philosophy.
• 20:12
  Okay. You know, and that's just the philosophy.
• 20:14
  Did you ever watch that show Arrested Development?
• 20:17
  Yes, absolutely. Do you remember the blonde girl
• 20:20
  into bias? Thank you, I've made a huge mistake.
• 20:25
  Yes, the fume case. The fume case, thank you.
• 20:27
  Tobias the never nude. There's a scene in like
• 20:30
  season two where they're talking about, I don't
• 20:32
  remember what they're talking about, but it's
• 20:34
  Tobias and his wife and they're looking at other
• 20:36
  couples or something and Tobias goes, yeah, it
• 20:39
  never works. No matter who it is, it never works.
• 20:42
  It never has for anybody, no matter who's tried
• 20:44
  it throughout history, but it might work for
• 20:47
  us. Well, did it work for those people? No. It
• 20:54
  never does. I mean, these people somehow delude
• 20:56
  themselves into thinking it might, but it might
• 21:01
  work for us. That's this guy. He's like, yeah,
• 21:06
  we know that this is going to be a barrier to
• 21:09
  entry, but we're different. And, you know, and
• 21:14
  that's just the philosophy and the attitude.
• 21:16
  I have been arguing with legislators that in
• 21:18
  our case, in this case, but in our case, consumer
• 21:22
  protection issues. that really needs to be dealt
• 21:25
  with. Ken Burgess, lobbyist for the Home Builders
• 21:27
  Association, is pushing similar legislation this
• 21:30
  session. There are about 21 ,000 names on the
• 21:34
  contractor registration list, right? 99 % of
• 21:38
  those people are good businessmen who are trying
• 21:40
  to do a good job and provide a good quality service
• 21:43
  and product for Idahoans. If the numbers are
• 21:47
  that low for the bad actors, then you don't even
• 21:50
  need an occupational licensing program to find
• 21:52
  them. Follow the reviews. Furthermore, fun fact,
• 21:58
  the homeowners, what is it? Homeowners Builders
• 22:00
  Association. Home Builders Association are on
• 22:03
  record from a few years back as coming out against
• 22:05
  hard, hard, hard against one of our Cootin County
• 22:08
  commissioners, Mark Eberlein, a few years back
• 22:11
  when Mark Eberlein successfully, by the way,
• 22:14
  in Cootin County, you've mentioned this on the
• 22:15
  show, stripped back some county building requirements.
• 22:19
  Now, they didn't they didn't get rid of the state.
• 22:21
  building codes, federal and state building codes
• 22:24
  are still in place. So there was there was still
• 22:26
  pretty high bars, so to speak, as far as the
• 22:29
  bare minimums go for electrical work, for plumbing
• 22:31
  work, there was, you know, you basically still
• 22:33
  had to follow all the all the big stuff so that
• 22:34
  your house doesn't burn down and blah, blah,
• 22:36
  blah. But for people who wanted to build their
• 22:38
  own homes, or self build or hire contractors
• 22:40
  to do the work, the county was now not going
• 22:43
  to get involved and add to that burden. It wasn't
• 22:46
  really a big strip back it was it was small but
• 22:50
  it made big news of course and a lot of people
• 22:52
  threw a fit about it and the Home Builders Association
• 22:54
  and the Realtors Associations were the two big
• 22:58
  entities that threw the biggest fits about it
• 23:00
  and then between the two of them got Mark Ebeline
• 23:02
  ousted from the Kootenai County Commissioners
• 23:04
  and this was like four or five years ago now
• 23:06
  and it was because they have a vested interest
• 23:09
  in everything costing more and taking more time.
• 23:11
  Yes, of course they do because new competitors
• 23:12
  drive down prices and they undercut bids and
• 23:15
  they innovate more. We can't be having that because
• 23:17
  God forbid people who quote unquote don't work
• 23:19
  hard enough shouldn't be able to afford a house.
• 23:22
  Only people who work the right amount of hard
• 23:24
  and who are over the age of 60 should be allowed
• 23:27
  to live in a house. Yeah, this is like why would
• 23:31
  the Home Builders Association who represents
• 23:34
  contractors be arguing, don't contractors want
• 23:36
  less government regulation? Well, not when they're
• 23:39
  big. Established builders have compliance departments.
• 23:43
  Their dues paying members don't want the competition.
• 23:47
  They have the cash flow to absorb all these new
• 23:50
  licensing requirements and what it does is it
• 23:51
  all it does is filters out new competition. Well,
• 23:53
  it's the same reason why Amazon was a for, they
• 23:56
  supported the internet sales tax. when the internet
• 23:59
  sales tax became a widely pushed for thing. Cause
• 24:02
  every state was like, Oh, look at all this money
• 24:04
  we can get with internet sales and state by state.
• 24:08
  The issue was lost. And I mean, we lost on that
• 24:11
  issue. Cause now we pay internet sales tax too.
• 24:14
  And Amazon came out and said, yeah, we're for
• 24:15
  this. And at first a lot of people went, what,
• 24:17
  what the fuck Amazon? You're the biggest one
• 24:19
  of all. And it was like, Oh yeah. because they're
• 24:22
  the biggest one of all they're already set up
• 24:24
  to be able to do sales tax in all 50 states they've
• 24:28
  already got it going and they can absorb the
• 24:29
  costs everybody else the small guys now have
• 24:32
  to deal with it exactly weird how that works
• 24:34
  a couple of these comments these are not my words
• 24:36
  but i wanted to share them there's also the a
• 24:39
  liability shifting incentive more regulation
• 24:41
  means more checklists and more boxes to tick
• 24:44
  and if something goes wrong the blame migrates
• 24:47
  from the builder to the regulator So it's it
• 24:50
  masquerades as consumer protection, but it's
• 24:54
  risk outsourcing. Yes. Well, and then what you
• 24:55
  have is regulators, bureaucrats. They're bureaucrats
• 24:58
  who typically work for the government and are
• 25:00
  risk averse anyways, because they work for the
• 25:02
  government. You don't wake up in the morning
• 25:03
  and you're not an interesting person who takes
• 25:05
  risks or creates or innovates if you work for
• 25:08
  the government. There's a few exceptions, but
• 25:11
  most people who work for the government. don't
• 25:13
  do it because it's not rewarded. Risk is not
• 25:16
  rewarded. So now everything has to be exactly
• 25:19
  a particular way at exactly the right time with
• 25:21
  exactly the right form. Look at health care.
• 25:23
  Health care has suffered under this exact issue
• 25:26
  because nobody wants to take the liability. Understandably,
• 25:29
  they don't want to, but entrepreneurs and people
• 25:32
  like us, we live with risk every day. We work
• 25:34
  under risk. The market brings a certain level
• 25:37
  of risk that we're willing to make and take that
• 25:39
  other people aren't. That's why we do what we
• 25:41
  do and they do what they do. So your point is
• 25:44
  valid. It outsources the risk, but it also slows
• 25:46
  things down, makes things more complicated, more
• 25:48
  expensive. And at the end of the day, this was
• 25:50
  my biggest beef when it came to the Kootenai
• 25:52
  County issue, where they, by the way, they went
• 25:55
  Mark Ebeline and they stripped it back, but as
• 25:58
  soon as they ousted him, they put all the restrictions
• 26:00
  back on. Of course. Well, it's my property. Who
• 26:05
  the fuck are you to say who I can and can't have
• 26:08
  work on it or what I can and can't do Ultimately,
• 26:10
  that's the issue at the end of the day Scott
• 26:12
  who are they to determine that? Yeah, the state
• 26:15
  the state or our glorious leaders leaders leaders
• 26:19
  Good quality service and product for Idahoans.
• 26:23
  But the way the law is written, the door is just
• 26:26
  cracked open just enough that those scam artists,
• 26:29
  I call them, are able to take advantage of that.
• 26:33
  They hope to seal that. Government people calling
• 26:34
  other people scam artists just a pot calling
• 26:36
  the kettle black. I've ever heard it. Votje zet
• 26:38
  ben gezelf. You see, the problem is that other
• 26:41
  people are extracting money from people and not
• 26:43
  just us. It's not that we don't agree with the
• 26:46
  extraction. We just don't agree that it's not
• 26:48
  us. I'll take advantage of that. They hope to
• 26:51
  seal that crack this year. Their bill gives the
• 26:53
  contractor board more power this year. Their
• 26:57
  bill gives the contractor board more power power
• 27:00
  power by making it easier for them to track down
• 27:03
  and force contractors to participate in investigations
• 27:06
  and require continuing education if there are
• 27:09
  repeated issues. The bill also proposes a three
• 27:12
  strike rule. If a contractor has three violations
• 27:14
  over the course of five years that it gives the
• 27:17
  board the authority to rescind their registration.
• 27:21
  This legislation probably doesn't go as far as
• 27:24
  we would like, so now you're kissing the ring.
• 27:26
  Now you have to kiss the ring of this board.
• 27:30
  The intentions here are good. The theoretical
• 27:33
  idea of this is good, but pick another category,
• 27:37
  pick another industry, pick any of them and see
• 27:41
  how it actually works out. It speaks for itself.
• 27:44
  Well, that's the thing. It won't work out the
• 27:46
  way that everybody thinks. That's the thing.
• 27:49
  We're not saying that these people speaking are
• 27:51
  like, you unzip their skin suit and they're reptiles.
• 27:53
  Some of them, yes, but I don't... I'm willing
• 27:56
  to give the benefit of the doubt to the people
• 27:57
  you're hearing right here that, like, they genuinely
• 28:00
  don't want homeowners to get scammed out of 20
• 28:03
  grand for a debt contractor who never shows up.
• 28:06
  But the premises that they're operating under
• 28:08
  are inverted. Well, we're seeing the results
• 28:10
  of 100 years of just a little bit more, Scott,
• 28:12
  you and I in our lives right now. There are more
• 28:14
  laws on the books than there ever have been in
• 28:16
  our lifetime. We're the most jailed population
• 28:18
  per capita. We're the most surveilled. The list
• 28:21
  of what we can't do. 10 times bigger than the
• 28:24
  list of what we're allowed to do when at the
• 28:26
  same time people Thump their chests and be like
• 28:28
  America the land of the free right exactly. You
• 28:30
  can't do anything without permission No, this
• 28:32
  is how we got here is iron shit right here. We're
• 28:35
  guys are like just a little bit more We just
• 28:36
  need a little more regulation for the consumer
• 28:38
  and a hundred years later that little more regulation
• 28:41
  is a Encyclopedia of what you are not allowed
• 28:45
  to do. It's also unbelievably ironic that The
• 28:48
  list of what you're not supposed to do, that's
• 28:51
  supposed to be what like the Constitution is.
• 28:53
  It's limits on what government cannot do. It's
• 28:56
  inverted. You brought up the Constitution. You're
• 28:57
  funny. I know, I know. I'm a comedian. Hey, I
• 29:00
  have been told this is the best joke of the day.
• 29:02
  Some people do find our show funny, I've been
• 29:04
  told. So there you go. You're welcome. They have
• 29:06
  bad taste, but I'm glad you guys are listening.
• 29:08
  Thank you. Where's my rim shot? Let's finish
• 29:12
  this up. OK, I'm sorry. This legislation probably
• 29:14
  doesn't go as far as we would like, but we are
• 29:18
  hopeful that it is something that that is a middle
• 29:21
  of the road kind of scenario that we can get
• 29:23
  through the legislature now until the next time.
• 29:26
  Attorney Christian Martino represents both contractors
• 29:28
  and homeowners. I get to see both sides of the
• 29:30
  coin and thinks reform should go further. You
• 29:33
  don't have to reinvent the wheel bureaucrat telling
• 29:36
  us that we. He should have more power. That was
• 29:38
  an attorney. Attorney Christian Martinow represents
• 29:41
  both contractors and home. It's almost like the
• 29:44
  guy who stands to profit the most from regulation
• 29:48
  and rules and lawsuits and liability issues.
• 29:52
  Pro tip, also fun fact, any association that
• 29:55
  is full of lawyers, guess what they love? More
• 29:58
  law. Billable hours, baby. The less accessible
• 30:00
  you can make the law, the more money the lawyers
• 30:03
  make because now you need them. It's the same
• 30:05
  reason H &R Block loves more taxes and more tax
• 30:09
  regulations because the more complicated the
• 30:11
  tax code is... We're going to help you, consumer.
• 30:13
  We're going to help you navigate it. Oh hey,
• 30:14
  is that a complicated tax code over there? Don't
• 30:16
  worry, we're here to help. We're here for you.
• 30:18
  Should go further. You don't have to reinvent
• 30:19
  the wheel. He looks to neighboring Nevada and
• 30:23
  Washington as examples. They have some of the
• 30:26
  strongest. Right? Oh, and I'm sure there's no
• 30:31
  fraud there. There's no bad contractors there,
• 30:33
  right? No homeowners getting screwed out anything
• 30:35
  there, right? No protections with recovery funds
• 30:38
  for homeowners and mandatory surety bonding for
• 30:41
  contractors that homeowners can tap into if they
• 30:43
  feel the deck over there. Exactly. If you don't
• 30:47
  have that consumer protection bond in place,
• 30:49
  then. The contractor can't take a deposit of
• 30:52
  more than $1 ,000. The contractor can't take
• 30:55
  more than a deposit of what you, the homeowner,
• 30:58
  choose to give him. Correct. The contractor can't
• 31:01
  take anything you have to give it to him. Correct.
• 31:04
  More than $1 ,000 or 10 % of the contract price.
• 31:09
  If people ever could be, and this is one of the
• 31:11
  things I push as much as I can, to recondition
• 31:14
  people to think, to reframe the whole conversation.
• 31:17
  If people thought about the government, in the
• 31:20
  way they think about actors in the private sector,
• 31:22
  everything would change overnight. But it's crazy
• 31:25
  to me that we do not apply these same standards
• 31:29
  to the state. We don't. We apply these standards
• 31:33
  to everybody else, to everything and everybody
• 31:35
  else. And we're upset about being taken advantage
• 31:37
  of and getting nothing in return, shoddy work,
• 31:41
  opaque business practices, whatever, whatever.
• 31:44
  Ironically, we don't apply it to the worst actor
• 31:47
  that we deal with, which is the state. The state
• 31:50
  which gives no value in return, takes via force,
• 31:54
  is the most opaque, least transparent entity
• 31:57
  to exist. And we don't apply these kinds of standards
• 32:00
  to them. And you're really summing up, Paul,
• 32:02
  summing up the reason that we're ultimately here.
• 32:05
  The reason that that remit continues to be the
• 32:08
  default mindset and framing is because mainstream
• 32:13
  media presentations across the board on all mediums
• 32:16
  for decades and decades take this sort of tone
• 32:20
  and it conditions people not to think that way.
• 32:23
  Contract price, whichever is less. So it prevents
• 32:26
  them from taking these huge deposits and then
• 32:29
  not doing the work or continually making excuses.
• 32:32
  Was it just like there was the Cirksaw earlier?
• 32:34
  These are Natpops. So it prevents dude in a house
• 32:37
  construction like was it was he in the house
• 32:40
  while it was being built for this interview or
• 32:41
  something Ow, I hammered my thumb. Miss them
• 32:44
  from taking these huge deposits and then not
• 32:47
  doing the work. We're continually making excuses
• 32:49
  why they can't do the work. Bonding's not that
• 32:51
  expensive. You're talking about dependent...
• 32:53
  He's the guy who doesn't have to do it. That's
• 32:55
  the guy, that's the spokesperson from the Home
• 32:58
  Builders Association. Oh, shocker. Believe it
• 33:01
  or not. Let me just do a quick bonding. For one,
• 33:04
  who's gatekeeping, what is expensive and what
• 33:07
  isn't. For two... it completely, how much your
• 33:10
  bonding costs you totally depends on, it's basically
• 33:13
  a measure of your credit worthiness. Bigger contractors,
• 33:16
  yes, bonding is quote, not that expensive depending
• 33:19
  on what your definition of expensive is. And
• 33:21
  here's a quick breakdown. If you have good credit
• 33:24
  and a clean license history and several years
• 33:27
  in business and stable cash flow and no claims,
• 33:29
  like the incumbents largely do to varying degrees,
• 33:32
  then, you know, you're looking at like a $10
• 33:34
  ,000 bond being one to 3%, you know, one to $300
• 33:37
  a year. But if you're a new contractor, you're
• 33:40
  trying to break into the business, just like
• 33:42
  if you don't have a lot of credit, well, you're
• 33:44
  going to pay higher interest rates. Bonding works
• 33:46
  the exact same way. New or thin file contractors
• 33:48
  are looking at like five to 15%. Some have to
• 33:51
  post collateral, and some are simply denied.
• 33:54
  So like a $25 ,000 bond, for example, at 10%,
• 33:57
  well, that's $2 ,500 a year. I mean, you start
• 34:00
  moving the needle a lot more in a one person,
• 34:02
  two person operation, or you're seasonal, or
• 34:04
  you're working with thin margins, or you're just
• 34:06
  trying to get licensed. And this is the one that
• 34:10
  I always come back to. You're young, and you're
• 34:14
  starting out. See this is the part area. This
• 34:16
  is the area This is the thing that people don't
• 34:18
  understand in general but boomers in particular
• 34:19
  I blame for this the most because they're the
• 34:21
  ones that gave us the bulk of this and then Gen
• 34:23
  Xers have carried it on and Millennials just
• 34:25
  grew up with it So now we just are conditioned
• 34:27
  to think that regulation of this magnitude is
• 34:30
  normal and civilized, but it's not. You know
• 34:33
  who you gatekeep the hardest with this stuff?
• 34:35
  Young people. Young people who want to be entrepreneurs.
• 34:38
  Ask any boomer and go, what do you think about
• 34:41
  young people today? And they'll tell you, oh,
• 34:43
  they don't really want to work that hard. And
• 34:44
  back in my day, everybody owned a business, and
• 34:46
  we worked for ourselves, or we worked for a manufacturing
• 34:49
  line. And one is pretty much one or the other.
• 34:50
  Now nobody wants to run a business because they
• 34:52
  don't want to work hard, and blah, blah, blah,
• 34:53
  blah. And it's like, No, mostly people our age
• 34:56
  don't want to run their own businesses, because
• 34:58
  it's so damn hard. And it's so expensive. And
• 35:01
  the permitting process, the paperwork process,
• 35:03
  just filing to get your fucking S corp status
• 35:05
  with the IRS, just pile it all up as money and
• 35:09
  time just to get started. You've you mean you
• 35:11
  are young barriers everywhere you are every step
• 35:13
  you are stupid for starting your own business.
• 35:15
  If you are young in this day and age, you're
• 35:18
  well, you're you're my kind of stupid because
• 35:20
  you know, I did it. Yeah, me too. You've done
• 35:22
  it. And people I know and love have done it,
• 35:25
  but we're built different. But most people, they
• 35:29
  just go, well, I'd love to do this or this or
• 35:32
  this with my talents and my time and my treasure.
• 35:34
  How's that for value for value? But I can't.
• 35:37
  Or it's too damn hard. I don't have the money.
• 35:39
  I don't have the resources. I don't know how
• 35:40
  to push all this paperwork. So instead, I'm just
• 35:42
  going to go work for Amazon. Or Uber or H &R
• 35:46
  Block. Yeah. This is a real thing. This is a
• 35:49
  real phenomenon. We're almost at the end. I'm
• 35:51
  sorry, and I'm really passionate about it. That's
• 35:53
  like the the the cost the lost opportunity costs
• 35:58
  of Crushing young people from being able to be
• 36:01
  entrepreneurs because of this bullshit is massive
• 36:04
  and most of it is unseen We can't actually fathom
• 36:07
  how much yes not quantifiable because you can't
• 36:10
  obviously you can't measure what never happens
• 36:12
  But if you just consider on the individual level,
• 36:15
  how many millions of people might do something
• 36:19
  else? and do something productive, creative,
• 36:22
  innovative, profitable, and just can't or haven't
• 36:26
  done it because of these things. That's trillions
• 36:29
  and trillions of dollars in lost opportunity.
• 36:33
  And that's just the money. That doesn't count
• 36:34
  dreams that have been crushed. That doesn't count
• 36:36
  products and services that don't exist, that
• 36:38
  could, things we can't even imagine that we could
• 36:41
  possibly have right now that we don't get to
• 36:43
  have. Bonding is not that expensive. You're talking
• 36:45
  about, depending on the amount of the bond, it's
• 36:48
  anywhere from $150 to $500 a year. Some states
• 36:53
  require milestone payments be built into contracts.
• 36:57
  In that contract, it has to have certain milestones.
• 37:00
  You can do this as a customer. You can do this
• 37:03
  right now. Right, whatever contract you want.
• 37:05
  I've done it. How can you do it without the state?
• 37:07
  milestones and certain amounts tied to those
• 37:11
  milestones for the funds to be released. The
• 37:13
  milestone payment sounds like an awesome solution.
• 37:16
  This already exists. This already exists. Oh
• 37:21
  my God. A great way to make sure that. We're
• 37:24
  not forking over our savings just so it can get
• 37:28
  stolen. Another possible solution? Martino suggests
• 37:32
  increasing registration fees, which could help
• 37:34
  Doppel work through the agency's backlog of disciplinary
• 37:37
  actions. Until and unless more protections are
• 37:39
  put in place, homeowners can take steps to educate
• 37:42
  and protect themselves. First, make sure your
• 37:46
  contractor is registered with Doppel and insured.
• 37:48
  Research their legal history. Get at least three
• 37:51
  detailed bids. contact multiple references. Make
• 37:54
  sure you get a physical contract, negotiate the
• 37:57
  payment schedule, save all receipts and communication,
• 38:01
  and avoid a large down payment, especially in
• 38:04
  cash. Good contractor, you know, yeah, they might
• 38:09
  need to get a little bit upfront to go get materials
• 38:11
  that they need. But you know, when people are
• 38:13
  asking for 30 % or 50 % down, that should be
• 38:17
  a red flag for people. Okay, there you go. This
• 38:21
  was probably one of the longest segments ever.
• 38:24
  And I want to apologize for that, but maybe I'm
• 38:27
  not gonna because there was a lot to unpack in
• 38:29
  this one. I'm gonna be perfectly honest here.
• 38:33
  It's been really hard not to just curse at the
• 38:35
  voices in the machine this whole time. That cup
• 38:38
  of coffee really got to me. I'm having a great
• 38:40
  time, but also I'm livid as an anarchist, libertarian,
• 38:44
  whatever I want to call myself. Like this is...
• 38:48
  Why we can't have nice things and this is why
• 38:51
  when I get to have nice things it costs five
• 38:53
  times more than it should This is and this is
• 38:57
  this is why young people Struggle yeah to make
• 39:01
  a life because like, you know, there's a lot
• 39:04
  of guys It's usually men who think this way who
• 39:07
  are mainly construction because they work with
• 39:09
  their hands They're good with they're good with
• 39:10
  their hands, but you know who aren't great at
• 39:14
  paperwork who mostly those same guys the auto
• 39:18
  mechanic that you need, the plumber you need,
• 39:20
  the electricians you need, the dudes who can
• 39:22
  build your house and do that deck and do a great
• 39:24
  job of it. I'm generalizing, but they're typically
• 39:28
  not the guys who are good at pushing the paper,
• 39:31
  filing all the bullshit and doing all that. And
• 39:33
  they shouldn't have to be. As long as you can
• 39:36
  build a good deck or whatever I need you to,
• 39:39
  we're golden. But you shouldn't have to have
• 39:41
  to do the rest. Anyways, I'm rambling now. I'm
• 39:43
  pissed. Then we'll use some poker terminology
• 39:47
  since that's a hobby that Paul and I both share.
• 39:49
  I put Paul on tilt with this particular clip.
• 39:52
  Yeah, another part of the vernacular I would
• 39:55
  borrow then right now is I'm steaming. steaming
• 39:57
  yeah i'm steaming like if i had my pile of chips
• 39:59
  in front of me right now i'd probably shove all
• 40:01
  in with eight three off just to piss everybody
• 40:03
  else at the table off i've definitely lost with
• 40:05
  aces two eight three so you never know you might
• 40:06
  just win anyway yeah well i know you also lost
• 40:08
  with trip jacks the last time we played yes i
• 40:10
  did the set of jacks no good it wasn't your fault
• 40:12
  you made the right moves pocket jacks are always
• 40:13
  the worst they are you remember Muck dude. Auto
• 40:16
  muck. If I auto muck pocket Jacks, you know that
• 40:18
  better. You know that in that pot, by the way,
• 40:20
  if I'm the one on the flush draw, it's like,
• 40:22
  it's the, it's the four of dandelions hitting
• 40:24
  the river every time. No universe. Well, and
• 40:26
  if I'm the one on that draw, I don't call that
• 40:28
  bet. I never call that bet. It was a stupid pot.
• 40:31
  That guy was a stupid player and a bad player
• 40:33
  and he shouldn't have won. I'm sorry, Scott.
• 40:36
  You're the victim here. I need the state to step
• 40:39
  into the poker world and help me. We need licenses
• 40:41
  to be able to play poker in a state where poker
• 40:44
  is illegal. Show that you're competent, man.
• 40:46
  Otherwise, the other players are just going to
• 40:47
  take your money. They're just going to take it.
• 40:51
  OK, let's do one more before we take a mid show
• 40:54
  breather here to explain the value for value
• 40:57
  model that no ID runs on. And let's see, what
• 41:00
  will be a quick one here? Should we do? How about
• 41:06
  the raw milk one? This is great. Now you have
• 41:10
  a sort of, is it fair to say, a semi homestead?
• 41:15
  I call it a millennial homestead. A millennial
• 41:18
  homestead. Yeah, we're about halfway there. We're
• 41:20
  not off grid, but we're way less dependent on
• 41:23
  the grid than most people are. We don't have...
• 41:26
  a lot of livestock, but we do have a bunch of
• 41:28
  chickens, so on and so forth. So we kind of split
• 41:30
  the difference. But no, we're not a full blown
• 41:32
  on our own. I'm kicking ass, taking names, doing
• 41:35
  tough guy stuff homestead. No, we're like, it's
• 41:37
  just glamorous enough that I could probably do
• 41:39
  an Instagram channel with it, but not a good
• 41:42
  Instagram channel. Now you're the you're the
• 41:45
  quintessential type that would be would consume
• 41:49
  raw milk, probably if I could if you could dairy,
• 41:52
  which I love, but it doesn't love me. Yeah, I
• 41:54
  would. Central District Health in Idaho is investigating
• 41:58
  a cluster of serious illnesses in Ada County
• 42:01
  possibly linked to raw milk. The mainstream media
• 42:05
  is very against raw milk. They hate raw milk,
• 42:09
  mostly because they hate the type, the mentality,
• 42:11
  the independent type of thinker that like gravitates
• 42:14
  toward raw milk. So I just wanted to I wanted
• 42:16
  to play this clip from CBS. But first, let's
• 42:20
  let's do the story from Idaho here about like
• 42:23
  four people in the entire stage are sick. So
• 42:24
  raw milk sucks. Nine people have reported getting
• 42:27
  sick, including two children who were hospitalized
• 42:29
  with serious complications. Health officials
• 42:32
  say if you choose to drink raw milk, make sure
• 42:35
  you refrigerate it within 30 minutes. minutes
• 42:37
  of purchase and check for spoilage. Even though
• 42:40
  this happened, there isn't a, a board of raw
• 42:45
  milk where they can license it and bond it and
• 42:49
  slap fees and paperwork onto it and then control
• 42:51
  who gets to sell. That's why, that's why this
• 42:54
  happened, Scott, even though it's legal in Idaho,
• 42:56
  it's not risk free. Um, and so I would Exactly.
• 43:00
  Tell me something in life that's risk -free,
• 43:03
  like jamming the turn with those pocket jacks
• 43:05
  should have been there. But no. And so I would
• 43:10
  recommend not drinking raw milk. OK, so now I
• 43:14
  want this. Maybe this is even like a little bit
• 43:16
  of an as Paul. So here here's a clip from this
• 43:19
  is probably a couple of years old now, but it's
• 43:21
  like it's from a CBS morning show. And this when
• 43:23
  they have one of their, you know, one of their.
• 43:26
  stooge doctors on with like the stethoscope and
• 43:28
  the white coat to explain to lecture you on some
• 43:31
  medical topic. Ten out of ten pharmacists say
• 43:33
  raw milk is bad for you. Now shut up and take
• 43:36
  your oxys. There's no way you could possibly
• 43:40
  come up with this. Raw milk? Think of it as...
• 43:42
  Think of it as... What do you think she would
• 43:45
  compare raw milk to? Liquid death. I mean, you're
• 43:48
  really... You're not exaggerating. Raw milk?
• 43:51
  Think of it as raw sewage. It's heavily fecal,
• 43:55
  contaminated. Think about, you know, where the
• 43:57
  cows, you know, their feces are. You know, this
• 43:59
  is not - Think about it as - Think about where
• 44:00
  the cow's poop is. Does the cow poop out of their
• 44:03
  udder? Heavily fecal, contaminated. Think about,
• 44:08
  you know, where the cows, you know, their feces
• 44:10
  are. You know, this is not clean. You really
• 44:12
  want to be drinking pasteurized milk. You really
• 44:15
  want to be drinking pasteurized milk. We'll be
• 44:16
  right back after this message is from the American
• 44:18
  Dairy Farmers Association. Milk. Brought to you
• 44:23
  by the Dairy Cartel. Milk. And I'm gonna, no,
• 44:27
  I'm really not going near any pastries. Oh yeah,
• 44:30
  no, you would want to do that. Think of it as
• 44:33
  raw sewage. After that segment, they both got
• 44:37
  double -backed to protect themselves from raw
• 44:41
  milk. From our friends at Pfizer. And possible
• 44:44
  cow poop. Okay, well this nonsense claptrap that
• 44:51
  you're hearing, no ID, is a value for value proposition.
• 44:55
  We run on the value for value model. We don't
• 44:58
  have any cartels that are sponsoring this program
• 45:00
  and we never will. No, we're not licensed and
• 45:02
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• 45:05
  fee to give us money. We're not on any registry.
• 45:09
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• 45:13
  behalf of our show we just run on the value for
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• 45:19
  are no ads there are no sponsors we just bring
• 45:22
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• 45:25
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• 45:28
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• 45:31
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• 45:32
  return value back in many ways time talent and
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  treasure This I once every few shows I want to
• 45:38
  acknowledge that we are gratefully borrowing
• 45:40
  this model from its innovators no agenda Adam
• 45:43
  and John and It has worked for them for a coming
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  up on 20 years and we're hoping we experience
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  even a fraction of their longevity time and talent
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• 47:59
  Is that a handwritten note, Scott? It sure is.
• 48:01
  That is so cool. This week we do have an executive
• 48:04
  producer and it is from Chris with a K. And Chris
• 48:09
  sent in a handwritten note. And check out the
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  With a wax seal on the envelope. Oh and the wax
• 48:17
  seal has a K on it. It sure does. Does he have
• 48:20
  a last name that starts with a K or is he doing
• 48:22
  it? I'm so curious. He just signs it Chris so
• 48:26
  I couldn't tell you. I'd be curious to know if
• 48:27
  it's Chris K or just Chris with a K. Now flip
• 48:31
  over the envelope so it's also check out the
• 48:33
  stamp. That looks purposeful too. Yeah that's
• 48:37
  fantastic. Because, so I'm going to read the
• 48:39
  note. This note is written in cursive. It's beautiful
• 48:43
  script, by the way. Yes. I was just going to
• 48:45
  say excellent penmanship. No ID. Well, since
• 48:48
  I proposed a donation level for the shiny Schmeckle,
• 48:53
  I may as well kick it off with a Schmeckle towards
• 48:58
  the cause. Here is nine dollars and ninety nine
• 49:02
  cents plus a penny for the jar because he sent
• 49:05
  in in fiat currency. Paper money. Yeah, ten bucks
• 49:09
  paper note and paper money So a penny for the
• 49:12
  jar. That's something they'll do on no I or no
• 49:14
  agenda where they like nine hundred and ninety
• 49:18
  nine dollars and 96 cents. Well thousand dollars
• 49:20
  makes you a night. They're like, hey, I'm all
• 49:22
  the way there I'd like my night and can you kick
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  in a penny from the jar to get me there? Basically
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  leave a penny take a penny. You got it Here is
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  999 plus a penny for the jar in support of the
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  best podcast in North, Idaho Continue keeping
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  an eye on everything for us and don't let the
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  bastards win. Hell, yeah from Chris Thanks, Chris.
• 49:41
  Thank you very much Chris. That's that's cool
• 49:43
  You are you sir are a well, I was gonna say God
• 49:47
  among men, but I don't want to be sacrilegious
• 49:49
  You are a mountain of a man. I Love the I love
• 49:52
  the handwritten letter. It's an excellent penmanship
• 49:55
  and the wax seal like and it's nice paper to
• 49:57
  fill the paper Stop. I can only get so erect
• 50:00
  So speaking of erect now this is so now this
• 50:03
  is the shiny schmeckle donation. It has been
• 50:07
  coined. So if you wish to make a shiny schmeckle
• 50:10
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  or a thousand bucks or any number, whatever is
• 50:17
  value to you, please go to noidshow .com. And
• 50:29
  that being said, I think it's time for second
• 50:32
  half of show. Let's do it. Here is the What does
• 50:37
  she she's like a hybrid she's she's like a commie
• 50:40
  evangelical preacher This is a hybrid of a lot
• 50:45
  of different care archetypes all mixed into one
• 50:50
  dictatorial Teachers Union Association president
• 50:58
  This is at a national rally, yeah, so I I sent
• 51:06
  you this. Yes, you did. And not necessarily all
• 51:08
  the audio. I think with the audio, I sent you
• 51:10
  maybe not as much, but I sent you the A audio
• 51:13
  and audio file of this crazy chick and was like,
• 51:16
  you got, we got to do some stuff with her. I
• 51:19
  forget her name already. Her name is Becky Pringle.
• 51:22
  And she is the president of the national like
• 51:25
  the whole organization, the National Education
• 51:27
  Association, as crop level, she's the president,
• 51:30
  the biggest teachers union in the United States,
• 51:32
  which so it applies to Idaho because many Idaho
• 51:34
  teachers are under the umbrella of the NEA, I
• 51:38
  think all who's at all all of the ones who are
• 51:41
  in state run education, I think so. Let's I could
• 51:46
  be wrong. No, Idaho is not a right what they
• 51:48
  call so Idaho is what they call a right to work
• 51:50
  state Which means you don't have to join a union
• 51:53
  as a condition of employment if you don't wish
• 51:55
  to which is which is a good thing That's a good
• 51:57
  thing however I'm not sure how it works with
• 52:03
  state -run indoctrination camps whether or not
• 52:05
  they'll let you opt out of the union or not.
• 52:07
  I think they do. I think they have to let you
• 52:09
  opt out. Well, you must be right about that because
• 52:12
  this is the prompt. In Idaho, what percentage
• 52:15
  of public school teachers are members of the
• 52:17
  NEA? Verified data from, this is official state
• 52:21
  data, although it's a few years old, but it's
• 52:24
  49 .9, so 50%. Half of Idaho public school teachers
• 52:28
  reported that they were members of the NEA. That's
• 52:31
  actually encouraging. I'm surprised it's so low.
• 52:33
  That's a pleasant surprise. It probably speaks
• 52:35
  to how different and unique Idaho still is in
• 52:37
  some ways. Anyways, I already interrupted your
• 52:41
  clip. But the point is, is that the NAA is evil.
• 52:43
  And the gal who heads it up is every everything
• 52:46
  you need to know about the state of affairs when
• 52:48
  it comes to the education. And I use that term
• 52:53
  dryly or wryly, I should say, the education complex,
• 52:57
  everything you need to know about it. Just listen
• 52:59
  to this chick ever seed control of the motherland.
• 53:03
  Oh wait, sorry, wrong clip. Now, before we continue
• 53:15
  here, I just want to point out that the national
• 53:18
  average, to your point about Idaho being that
• 53:20
  it's sort of heartening, that it's only half,
• 53:22
  the national average is about 70%. So yes, quite
• 53:26
  a few, quite fewer Idaho public school teachers
• 53:30
  are members of the inning. It would be lower.
• 53:31
  It would be lower, except there are a lot of
• 53:36
  states that are not. considered right to work
• 53:37
  states. In fact, our next door neighbor, Washington,
• 53:39
  is not a right to work state, meaning if the
• 53:42
  workplace, if your if your workplace is unionized
• 53:46
  and the union has taken over and they basically
• 53:48
  can demand you join the union as a condition
• 53:51
  of employment, you cannot refuse. This is also
• 53:57
  so kind of keep playing this first part over
• 53:59
  and over again, because I love the like, finger
• 54:02
  in chest, say the words. Pulp it's Maoist. She's
• 54:06
  bullying from the pulpit right now Brain leeches
• 54:20
  their MP. They have brain leeches. They're NPCs.
• 54:23
  Yeah, and they teach your kids They have toxoplasmosis
• 54:25
  because they all have cats pull your kids out
• 54:29
  of public school, please go wait. Hold on Let's
• 54:32
  give all a look. Here we go everything you need
• 54:38
  to know about the state run indoctrination camps
• 54:41
  is right here with this gal in this rally. These
• 54:45
  people are parasites. They're NPCs. They are
• 54:48
  evil. They're coming for your kids. Who are you
• 55:09
  fighting? Oh, you beat me too. Who are you fighting?
• 55:11
  You know who they're fighting? Parents. Oh, you
• 55:17
  mean the people who are giving you the hostages
• 55:19
  for their program? What the hell were you saying
• 55:20
  that that one asshole dip the originator horse
• 55:24
  man? Yeah, was that it? Yeah hostages. Yeah.
• 55:26
  Yeah. Yes the the the creators of your hostages
• 55:31
  So brave yeah, make sure to double mask, you
• 55:37
  know lest you get sick from one of your little
• 55:39
  disease vector I mean students Yeah, you you
• 55:42
  brave people who closed your schools for two
• 55:44
  years because you were so deathly afraid of the
• 55:46
  air Oh yeah, and still got paid, of course. You
• 55:49
  are brave! You are powerful! You are the - She's
• 56:02
  pounding the desk. It's for the kids. Give us
• 56:04
  your money. We have to win! All the things -
• 56:08
  You gotta sound like that. We have to win. All
• 56:12
  the things. Hey, just don't jam the turn with
• 56:14
  Jack. Hey, at least they're saying the quiet
• 56:15
  part out loud now. Yeah, I know, right? To preserve
• 56:27
  our democracy, we must win! All the things! That's
• 56:31
  the spirit of the Holy Ghost! We won't go back!
• 56:35
  We will keep going forward because we are the
• 56:40
  NEA! We are the NEA! We are the NEA! And that's
• 56:47
  what we do! Where are we? I just wanted to blend
• 56:56
  this nut into our friend Alvin Holmes. Well,
• 56:59
  it works. They both kind of have the same vibe.
• 57:02
  Incidentally, they probably have similar backgrounds.
• 57:08
  You know the irony, too, of her being that particular
• 57:16
  race. Her name is Becky Pringle. These are two
• 57:19
  of the whitest things I can possibly think of.
• 57:21
  Becky is the stereotypical white chick name.
• 57:25
  That's fantastic. And Pringles? Think of a Pringle.
• 57:28
  What color comes to your mind? You want to know
• 57:30
  the best part is that she, I don't know if you
• 57:32
  got this in your range of sound bites there,
• 57:36
  but she, this gal, Becky, likes to tell a story
• 57:38
  about her great, great grandma being from Guyana
• 57:41
  or whatever. I don't. Yeah. I just, I got a couple
• 57:45
  of like this. I got this one. You'll hear that
• 57:50
  on this show. And you'll also hear, listen to
• 57:53
  the anger in that voice. Oh baby. This lady is
• 57:57
  insane. And everybody who follows her is retarded
• 58:00
  and insane. And these are the people who demand
• 58:02
  you give them your children. Okay. And your money.
• 58:05
  And your money. Or else. We need the money. Where's
• 58:08
  that sound right? That's this. We need this money.
• 58:12
  I need money. Say the words. Okay, dig this.
• 58:20
  I got something for you. As a Christian, if you
• 58:23
  send your kids to public school, you are in sin.
• 58:27
  That is my belief. It is a sin to give your kids
• 58:32
  to these maniacs and to the system. There are
• 58:36
  a lot of Christians who will then give the excuse,
• 58:39
  but it's a mission field. We can do the Lord's
• 58:43
  work. To that I say, sending your kid to public
• 58:47
  school to be a light is a fool's errand. Children
• 58:51
  are neither trained nor equipped to mentally
• 58:54
  and emotionally fight the system for you and
• 58:57
  at the same time take instruction from it. your
• 58:59
  children are not cannon fodder for the culture
• 59:02
  war as parents that's your job amen amen let's
• 59:12
  go back to idaho even though we were sort of
• 59:15
  in idaho because half of the it applies because
• 59:18
  the nea came out against the uh hb 93 and lost
• 59:22
  hey all these bells by the way this uh so the
• 59:26
  bells for this episode are brought to you by
• 59:27
  steve peg this one's for you you're welcome steve
• 59:32
  yes we did receive uh receive a feedback. As
• 59:36
  Paul said, the people said and I corrected him.
• 59:39
  I said, the person said that there's too many
• 59:41
  bells. You know what I should have said when
• 59:43
  it came up as I said, you know, Steve, if you
• 59:45
  were an executive producer participating in the
• 59:48
  value for value model, I might, you know, the
• 59:51
  bell feedback might more weight. Yeah. Yeah.
• 59:54
  So Steve, now, you know, now, you know, let's
• 1:00:00
  move right along to another Steve, another bill
• 1:00:04
  that might Well, we'll see where it goes. This
• 1:00:09
  is Idaho NPR. They hate us. They hate us. And
• 1:00:18
  we can't hate them enough. The national treasure.
• 1:00:23
  The polosive on the P there is just so good.
• 1:00:27
  The nerve of us to even exist. is pushing lawmakers
• 1:00:33
  at the Capitol. By the way, they never refer
• 1:00:35
  to any of these other organizations as a left
• 1:00:38
  -wing commie pinko, or they don't say like the
• 1:00:41
  left -wing commie pinko mayor of Boise. They
• 1:00:43
  don't say that. They just label the right. Conservative
• 1:00:46
  Christian Policy Group, the Idaho Family Policy
• 1:00:50
  Center. Well, because see, they're just normal.
• 1:00:51
  Yeah. You know what? If that's normal, I don't
• 1:00:54
  want to be normal. I'm happy to be weird. It's
• 1:00:57
  fine. Idaho Family Policy Center. is pushing
• 1:01:00
  lawmakers at the Capitol to further crack down
• 1:01:03
  on the use of bathrooms by people whose gender
• 1:01:06
  or appearance might be different from their sex.
• 1:01:09
  You mean the mentally ill? Let me, yeah, let's,
• 1:01:11
  we can, we can translate NPR in real time. They
• 1:01:15
  don't want dudes in dresses going into the ladies
• 1:01:18
  room. Man, they really tiptoed through the tulips
• 1:01:20
  on this one by people who don't identify as their
• 1:01:23
  birth sex. These are the same people who would
• 1:01:26
  try to correct us if we used the term mother.
• 1:01:29
  instead of birthing person. Pregnant people.
• 1:01:32
  You mean moms, right? No, I mean pregnant people.
• 1:01:35
  Yeah, moms, women, the only people who can get
• 1:01:38
  pregnant. Have kids they get by people whose
• 1:01:41
  gender or appearance might sound by different
• 1:01:43
  from their sex The Center was also behind successful
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  Senate bill 1100 three years ago Which bans anyone
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  from using a bathroom or changing facility in
• 1:01:52
  government buildings that isn't aligned with
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  their sex at birth? Legislation introduced Friday
• 1:01:57
  would extend those rules to every bathroom and
• 1:01:59
  changing facility in the state all the other
• 1:02:01
  bills Correctional facilities, and there's all
• 1:02:03
  these other things covered Now we're going specifically
• 1:02:06
  after these where we haven't been able to address.
• 1:02:10
  This is for the public sphere. That's bill sponsor,
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  Eagle Republican Ted Hill. He faced stiff questioning
• 1:02:16
  in the introductory hearing on the potential
• 1:02:18
  for the law to be weaponized, forcing people
• 1:02:21
  to prove that. That is a valid concern. It is.
• 1:02:25
  I don't agree with men changing in front of women
• 1:02:29
  in the women's bathroom. I never will. So I'm
• 1:02:31
  not defending it, but. It is something that could
• 1:02:34
  be weaponized. That is a problem. Problem number
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  two, unless they explain it for me, and I'm just
• 1:02:38
  jumping ahead here, is that if this bill extends
• 1:02:41
  to the private sector, that's a problem. As a
• 1:02:45
  business owner, as a homeowner, as a whatever,
• 1:02:47
  you have exclusive 100 % right to dictate how
• 1:02:51
  your bathroom is run, how it's conducted. And
• 1:02:54
  then it's up to your potential patrons or customers
• 1:02:56
  to decide if they like that policy or not. Oh,
• 1:02:59
  really Scott and Paul, so you just want business
• 1:03:01
  owners to be able to sign in the storefront window?
• 1:03:04
  Yeah, yeah, just as well as I do as I think the
• 1:03:07
  Crown and Thistle can hang a sign that says no
• 1:03:09
  white Anglo -Saxon Protestants except for the
• 1:03:11
  ones who vote the way I like in their place because
• 1:03:13
  that's how they are down there. It's not a hard
• 1:03:15
  concept. Put whatever you want in the storefront
• 1:03:18
  of your stupid business and let the market talk.
• 1:03:21
  Hashtag make hate official. Because I know they
• 1:03:25
  hate me. They might as well hang a sign on it
• 1:03:28
  so that it's easier for most of us to not give
• 1:03:30
  them our business. Well, what if the market talks,
• 1:03:32
  Scott, and then you find out that the business
• 1:03:34
  is thriving because they love the Nazis and they
• 1:03:36
  don't want you in the business? Then I know who
• 1:03:38
  not to trust. Yep, you got it. Congratulations.
• 1:03:40
  Now I know who will hurt me when things get even
• 1:03:42
  weirder than they are now. forcing people to
• 1:03:45
  prove their right to use a private space at potentially
• 1:03:48
  great personal expense. It's called the right
• 1:03:50
  of association. By the way, that's what that
• 1:03:52
  is. The thing we're talking about, you have the
• 1:03:54
  right to be racist. You have the right to be
• 1:03:57
  anything, really. It's the right of association.
• 1:04:00
  Is it moral? No. Is it ethical? Depends on the
• 1:04:05
  scenario. I would say it's definitely not moral.
• 1:04:08
  But as far as the legality of it is concerned,
• 1:04:10
  fuck off. It's a personal choice. You know what
• 1:04:13
  you sound like? You have the right of association.
• 1:04:14
  You sound like conservative Christian policy.
• 1:04:17
  Actually, I think most conservative Christians
• 1:04:19
  would disagree with me on this, too, because
• 1:04:20
  these are the people who are conditioned to cover
• 1:04:23
  their own tracks and be like, no, no, bigotry
• 1:04:25
  is bad, and you shouldn't have the right to think
• 1:04:27
  the way you think and hang out with who you want
• 1:04:29
  to hang out with, because they've been conditioned
• 1:04:31
  to say the right things. They're also the same
• 1:04:32
  people who mostly send their kids to public school.
• 1:04:35
  Point is, it's a deterrent. It's effective. I
• 1:04:38
  think all these red herrings have always going
• 1:04:40
  to cause all these issues. No, let's fix it.
• 1:04:43
  Let's protect these. Let's protect women in these
• 1:04:45
  spaces. Hill's bill was one of two introduced
• 1:04:48
  by the Senate State Affairs Committee Friday
• 1:04:50
  governing who's allowed in what bathrooms or
• 1:04:53
  changing facilities. The other similar bill is
• 1:04:55
  sponsored by Republican Representative Cornell
• 1:04:57
  Razor. One or both could receive a full public
• 1:05:01
  hearing at a later date. I know why he's doing
• 1:05:03
  it. Why? because about six weeks ago, eight weeks
• 1:05:08
  ago, it caused quite a stir when a man was changing
• 1:05:13
  in the women's bathroom standpoint at the YMCA
• 1:05:16
  standpoint. Yes, we covered it on the show. We
• 1:05:18
  did. And so that's up in district one, political
• 1:05:22
  district one in North Idaho, of which I am a
• 1:05:23
  resident and Cornell Razor is one of my representatives
• 1:05:26
  up there. So that one hits close to home for
• 1:05:27
  him. That's why he's brought it up. And then
• 1:05:29
  it comes down to, you know, is the YMCA, and
• 1:05:32
  I don't actually know this, I don't know this,
• 1:05:34
  so it's more of a question, you know, how is
• 1:05:36
  the YMCA funded, right? If the YMCA receives,
• 1:05:39
  and here's the litmus test, if the YMCA is a
• 1:05:42
  private organization, and it's privately funded,
• 1:05:44
  it's their prerogative. I can disagree with it
• 1:05:48
  all day long. And I do disagree with it all day
• 1:05:50
  long. But as long as the funds are private, it's
• 1:05:53
  their prerogative to do it. The moment taxpayer
• 1:05:56
  dollars enter the equation, then the government
• 1:05:58
  gets a say. And you need to change in the proper
• 1:06:02
  bathroom. It's just that simple because now it's
• 1:06:05
  my tax dollars propping up something that I disagree
• 1:06:07
  with. This is also such a sort of phony. Algoed
• 1:06:11
  wedge issue type of thing it is like totally
• 1:06:13
  is let me a personal anecdote quick story time
• 1:06:16
  Two summers ago. We were out on our friend's
• 1:06:20
  boat or maybe when we took ours I can't remember
• 1:06:21
  out on the river and our friends had some other
• 1:06:24
  friends of theirs in town from Southern California
• 1:06:26
  so old friends of theirs and it was a couple
• 1:06:28
  a good guy and a girl and We're you know, we
• 1:06:30
  pull into a cove. We're standing waist -deep
• 1:06:32
  in water with our beers We're hanging out over
• 1:06:34
  as one does out on the river and having a great
• 1:06:36
  old afternoon and I spent a bunch of the time
• 1:06:38
  talking to I think her name was Ashley, the guy's
• 1:06:42
  wife who was whatever brunette tattoos were and
• 1:06:45
  were swimsuits. I mean, we're in the river, you
• 1:06:46
  know, it's and which we mostly were talking about.
• 1:06:49
  Oh, she they live in Long Beach and how she inherited
• 1:06:52
  an apartment building from her family. And so
• 1:06:54
  she's been like managing tenants. And there were
• 1:06:56
  some challenges there because it's California
• 1:06:58
  and California hates landlords. And, you know,
• 1:07:00
  it was a very philosophically North Idaho type
• 1:07:02
  of conversation. Independent wanted to maintain
• 1:07:04
  her own wealth and wanted, you know, landlords
• 1:07:06
  rights, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, I learned
• 1:07:09
  Weeks or months later that Ashley was born a
• 1:07:14
  man. Ashley was trans. You would not know. I
• 1:07:17
  didn't know. I literally stood two feet away
• 1:07:20
  from her and talked to her for two and a half
• 1:07:22
  hours, half dressed. No idea. So it turns out
• 1:07:26
  that apartment was a condo. A well landscaped
• 1:07:33
  one. Okay, and in this case, you know, I'll use
• 1:07:40
  her. I'll use her. I mean, This is not who anybody
• 1:07:46
  is talking about. If Ashley went into the YMCA
• 1:07:50
  locker room, nobody would have had any idea.
• 1:07:54
  It's the guy with the beard in the dress who's
• 1:07:57
  like the weirdo. You see what I'm saying? We're
• 1:08:00
  not really even talking about transgender people.
• 1:08:03
  We're talking about a specific subset. Do you
• 1:08:06
  see what I'm saying? I do see what you're saying.
• 1:08:09
  I would actually probably argue with you on that
• 1:08:12
  one, but I do understand the distinction. it
• 1:08:14
  is it i do get what you're saying yeah and then
• 1:08:17
  i just there would have been no there would have
• 1:08:19
  been no one to be made uncomfortable because
• 1:08:21
  no one would have been no one would have been
• 1:08:23
  aware there's just no issue i mean i mean you
• 1:08:27
  could you could make a philosophical issue like
• 1:08:29
  the kind of the kind of transition that she made
• 1:08:33
  he the into she yes made made it difficult to
• 1:08:37
  even tell the difference correct it was it was
• 1:08:39
  a full metamorphosis, if you will, transfer transformation
• 1:08:43
  or whatever you want to call it. Whereas, whereas,
• 1:08:45
  yeah, when you've got the dude like people with
• 1:08:48
  wieners going into the women's bathroom, right?
• 1:08:52
  You have a beer in a dress. Yes, that exactly.
• 1:08:55
  There's a distinction. I would say they are.
• 1:08:57
  Yeah, there is a distinction. The overall concept
• 1:09:00
  is actually still the same, but the effect is
• 1:09:02
  not necessarily the same. And so I don't know,
• 1:09:04
  maybe that's probably one that could use some
• 1:09:07
  more fleshing out pun, not intended. I'm telling
• 1:09:11
  you all our flesh was out and I couldn't even
• 1:09:12
  tell. That's what I've been trying to tell you.
• 1:09:14
  Let's stay on. Now I know how you swing when
• 1:09:15
  you're on the beach. Let's stay on NPR here because
• 1:09:20
  this is more of their conservative Christian.
• 1:09:23
  This answer, whatever the hell the guy said,
• 1:09:25
  is a different story, but it's the same source.
• 1:09:28
  Oh, but the same people are the bad guys? Idaho
• 1:09:30
  NPR, yeah. Governor Brad Little fired one of
• 1:09:32
  Idaho's human rights commissioners days after
• 1:09:35
  far -right, far -right, far -right activists
• 1:09:37
  shared some of her social media posts. Oh wait,
• 1:09:40
  so it's our fault? Yes, for just making people
• 1:09:43
  aware of what she said publicly. This is like
• 1:09:46
  the libs of TikTok type of thing where it's like
• 1:09:48
  we just sort of shine a spot. Like I play the
• 1:09:51
  NEA psycho commie. And it's like, how dare you?
• 1:09:54
  It's like, how dare I just show the public statement
• 1:09:57
  she's making? This headline should read or say
• 1:10:00
  fired after posting crazy bullshit. Instead,
• 1:10:06
  it's fired after far right crazies revealed.
• 1:10:10
  Her behaviors. Days after far right, far right,
• 1:10:14
  far right activists. It's not even, it's activists.
• 1:10:17
  See, so when they say stuff publicly that's political.
• 1:10:21
  If you post shit on the internet and I see it
• 1:10:22
  and I alert somebody, I don't know if that's
• 1:10:24
  activism so much as a, hey, this is bat shit
• 1:10:26
  crazy and you use taxpayer money to pay your
• 1:10:29
  mortgage. I disagree with this. Get bent. Shared
• 1:10:32
  some of her social media posts related to immigration
• 1:10:35
  enforcement in Minnesota. Estella Zamora served
• 1:10:38
  on the state's Human Rights Commission under
• 1:10:40
  Democratic and Republican governors beginning
• 1:10:43
  in the 90s. One of her recent Facebook posts
• 1:10:45
  shared information about a protest. She's a lifelong
• 1:10:48
  bureaucrat. Yep. She's been there for a thousand
• 1:10:50
  years. Doing a job that would never exist in
• 1:10:52
  the private sector except for woke corporations.
• 1:10:55
  And you'll hear her too. You'll hear her voice
• 1:10:57
  in a moment. She's 111 years old. Post shared
• 1:11:00
  information about a protest urging federal immigration
• 1:11:03
  officials to leave Minneapolis. OK, now let's
• 1:11:06
  translate that. That's going to work. What did
• 1:11:08
  she probably post? She probably posted, hey,
• 1:11:11
  get out in the streets. Hey, commie activists,
• 1:11:13
  put those bandanas around the bottom half of
• 1:11:15
  your face and go bust heads and bust windows
• 1:11:18
  in Minneapolis because the Nazi Trump icers are
• 1:11:21
  in Minneapolis or some variation of that. I think
• 1:11:24
  I think she probably. said something really polite
• 1:11:28
  and nice. She probably did not call for violence
• 1:11:30
  and probably was very cohesive in her statements
• 1:11:33
  and coherent, I should say, and cohesive. I'm
• 1:11:36
  sure it was, I'm sure it was very uplifting and
• 1:11:38
  encouraging something like, can we all just come
• 1:11:41
  together and get along and, you know, love everybody
• 1:11:45
  because I'm a leftist and I intolerance and peace
• 1:11:47
  and love. For a recent Facebook post shared information
• 1:11:51
  about a protest urging federal immigration officials
• 1:11:54
  to leave Minneapolis I'm sure that's all it was.
• 1:12:03
  Oh, hey ice. Could you guys uh not? Another from
• 1:12:07
  last year compared members of the far -right,
• 1:12:09
  far -right, far -right Proud Boys and white supremacist
• 1:12:12
  Ku Klux Klan to gang members. Brian Allman works
• 1:12:15
  doing so. First of all, those two groups are
• 1:12:17
  not even the same. The Proud Boys are feds, just
• 1:12:19
  in case you guys didn't know that. They lumped
• 1:12:21
  those two groups together as if they are a single
• 1:12:24
  group and they are associated with the KKK, which
• 1:12:28
  basically no longer exists, by the way. Oh, and
• 1:12:31
  what was left of the KKK, also they were Democrats,
• 1:12:35
  by the way, sorry. Sorry. Sorry, Estella. Sorry
• 1:12:38
  to break the news. Yeah. Whomp, whomp. Brian
• 1:12:40
  Allman works doing social media for the Idaho
• 1:12:43
  Republican Party and has previously worked for
• 1:12:45
  far right. political organizations. We should
• 1:12:48
  draw a line and say somebody with these views
• 1:12:50
  should not be in this government position. He
• 1:12:52
  made those comments on a web show called the
• 1:12:54
  Idaho Signal last week shortly after. This government
• 1:12:57
  position shouldn't exist. There's no right to
• 1:12:59
  what is this position even for. Why does this
• 1:13:02
  exist? Last week, shortly after Zamora's nomination
• 1:13:05
  hearing, Zamora says she's not opposed to enforcing
• 1:13:07
  immigration laws, but not in the way ICE has
• 1:13:10
  been operating that's resulted in the deaths
• 1:13:13
  of two US citizens. There's no reason. Oh, you
• 1:13:15
  mean those things that blacks can't get? Yeah,
• 1:13:17
  Mexicans too, apparently. Black and brown people.
• 1:13:21
  There's no reason for... That's her, by the way.
• 1:13:24
  This is 175 -year -old Estella Zamora. There's
• 1:13:27
  no reason for ICE to be going to that extreme.
• 1:13:32
  I hate that this woman worked for the state of
• 1:13:34
  Idaho. I don't hate her because hate is... We
• 1:13:37
  try not to... I'm working on that. This is more
• 1:13:41
  of the... This is the... When we say like...
• 1:13:44
  people are being algo'd into their outrage. This
• 1:13:47
  is what we're talking about. Like, well, I'm
• 1:13:48
  not opposed to it, but I'm just opposed to it
• 1:13:50
  now. Well, when I talk about not paying my taxes,
• 1:13:53
  this is what I'm talking about. Like any time
• 1:13:56
  some asshole tells even, yeah, but my roads,
• 1:13:59
  we need to just point them to shit like this
• 1:14:01
  to be like, did you know that this is actually
• 1:14:02
  a position in the Idaho state government and
• 1:14:05
  it probably pays 120 K a year? Like that's what
• 1:14:09
  your taxes go to jackass. Please don't take our
• 1:14:12
  road. Okay, let's play a little bit more. If
• 1:14:15
  I could eliminate every position like this on
• 1:14:17
  planet Earth and admit we had no roads, I would
• 1:14:19
  hit that button right fucking now. I mean, yeah,
• 1:14:21
  we don't really like leaving our castles anyway.
• 1:14:23
  Tomorrow night, we'd have roads again, because
• 1:14:25
  the private sector would be like, oh, well, somebody's
• 1:14:27
  got to get to, you know, we're going to figure
• 1:14:29
  this out. Let's play some more of Estella Zamora.
• 1:14:31
  Sorry, I'm sorry. Like the time I cut the fairy
• 1:14:34
  over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for
• 1:14:37
  my shoe. Oh wait. I'm sorry. That's uh, that's
• 1:14:40
  not Estella. My bad. Zamora said she never heard
• 1:14:42
  from the administration despite knowing little
• 1:14:44
  for years. Why would she? Allow me the courtesy
• 1:14:47
  and give me a call or at least look me in the
• 1:14:52
  eyes before you fire me. You know, even email
• 1:14:55
  me anything. I think that is what is the most
• 1:15:00
  frustrating to me. spokesperson for the governor's
• 1:15:03
  office didn't immediately respond to questions
• 1:15:05
  I'd like to actually this is if you this is kind
• 1:15:08
  of like a TLDR I kind of summarized this clip
• 1:15:12
  I maybe I didn't even need to play the whole
• 1:15:14
  thing let me just play the shortened version
• 1:15:15
  of it so you get the overall gist we're gonna
• 1:15:18
  play the shortened version after you just played
• 1:15:19
  the longer that is correct yeah I just want you
• 1:15:21
  to hear if you can you did that in reverse order
• 1:15:24
  scott oh you're right but it's still worth playing
• 1:15:26
  um just because it took me time to put it together
• 1:15:28
  so just shut up and listen far right far right
• 1:15:30
  ku klux klan far right far right far right white
• 1:15:33
  white supremacist far right far right white white
• 1:15:36
  white supremacist far right far right far right
• 1:15:38
  far white far right ku klux klan and that's npr
• 1:15:41
  idaho brought to you by pfizer yeah we'll be
• 1:15:44
  right back after these messages from galaxo smith
• 1:15:46
  klein Good times. All right. Well, so long Estella
• 1:15:52
  Zamora brought to you by raw milk is sewage Have
• 1:15:56
  a nice rest of your life there miss Zamora somebody
• 1:15:59
  send that woman some raw milk All right couple
• 1:16:02
  more for this week before we wrap it up and head
• 1:16:04
  to the lounge Let's do this episode pseudo sponsored
• 1:16:08
  by the racketeer cigar. Yes the racketeer in
• 1:16:11
  Post Falls Gotta talk to Nathan about that. He
• 1:16:13
  needs to get in on this value for value stuff.
• 1:16:15
  That is so true Let's do And I see because the
• 1:16:21
  very first inaugural episode of this show was
• 1:16:25
  with Todd Banducci, your pops and the former
• 1:16:29
  chairman of the board of trustees and despite
• 1:16:32
  despite his best efforts to you know, like author
• 1:16:37
  a dark chapter in the history of the college
• 1:16:40
  and make it lose its standing and accreditation
• 1:16:43
  despite his efforts. After years in limbo, North
• 1:16:46
  Idaho College's accreditation was officially
• 1:16:48
  restored. The school will remain in good standing
• 1:16:50
  now after facing issues dating back to 2021.
• 1:16:53
  Well, the question of the college's accreditation
• 1:16:54
  came due to noted dysfunction by its board of
• 1:16:57
  trustees. That's according to the Northwest Commission
• 1:17:00
  of Colleges and Universities whose job is to
• 1:17:02
  accredit institutions. Ultimately, the board
• 1:17:04
  was able to hold on to it after changing changing
• 1:17:06
  how they operate over the past few years. Because
• 1:17:09
  now the entire board, as well as the president,
• 1:17:13
  are all part of the cartel. Idaho College Special
• 1:17:16
  Board of Trustees meeting on Monday night. They're
• 1:17:20
  very happy with themselves. Applause and cheers
• 1:17:22
  were all to see and hear after the Northwest
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  Commission of Colleges and Universities, also
• 1:17:26
  known as NWCCU, announced North Idaho College
• 1:17:30
  is now in good standing and will get to keep
• 1:17:32
  its accreditation. for voting the correct way,
• 1:17:39
  is what this is. But to keep its accreditation.
• 1:17:42
  Feels great. Kind of removes the doom, the gloom
• 1:17:46
  of February. This decision has been in question
• 1:17:49
  since 2021, when the accreditation board warned
• 1:17:52
  North Idaho College about what they say was instability
• 1:17:55
  aboard leadership. Instability they caused. Instability
• 1:17:58
  aboard leadership. In 2022, the college was sanctioned
• 1:18:01
  by the commission. And one year after that, NIC
• 1:18:04
  received a show cause sanction, which is the
• 1:18:06
  last step before a college loses its accreditation.
• 1:18:10
  The commission said this was not because of financial
• 1:18:12
  or academic concerns, but because of how the
• 1:18:15
  Board of Trustees govern the college in the past.
• 1:18:18
  NIC Chair Terry Zimmerman says while the past
• 1:18:20
  is the past, it is inexcusable to have had the
• 1:18:23
  college be in the standing. it once was in. Yeah,
• 1:18:25
  they didn't like who was on the board. That's
• 1:18:27
  all it was. Three conservatives were on the board
• 1:18:29
  for a grand total of like four years together.
• 1:18:31
  That was it. And they tried really hard to clean
• 1:18:33
  some things up, shed a light on some things,
• 1:18:35
  stop some things, slow down some things. And
• 1:18:37
  of course, the cartel didn't like that. There's
• 1:18:39
  a very, very powerful grip on well, colleges
• 1:18:44
  in general, but NIC as well as not immune to
• 1:18:47
  it by the cartel, the downtown cartel, the business
• 1:18:49
  cartel, the academic cartel. They all They all
• 1:18:52
  are large and in charge down there. And for a
• 1:18:54
  brief time, there was some ruffles in their feathers
• 1:18:57
  when conservatives actually had a little bit
• 1:19:01
  of power. You mean far -right Klu Klux Klaners?
• 1:19:03
  Far -right, far -right, far -right. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:19:05
  yeah. Because I'm pretty sure they actually held
• 1:19:07
  a vote one time to ban black people from college.
• 1:19:10
  My dad made the motion. He was like, yeah, all
• 1:19:12
  in favor of blanning, banning anybody who's not
• 1:19:15
  like me. It is important to say clearly and without
• 1:19:23
  hesitation, what happened at North Idaho College
• 1:19:26
  should never have happened. They found NIC did
• 1:19:49
  improve on those fronts, which sparked the decision
• 1:19:52
  to put them back in good standing after they
• 1:19:54
  found those changes were met. It's an update
• 1:19:56
  Morgan says will only benefit the Northern Idaho
• 1:19:58
  community. Education for the community in terms
• 1:20:02
  of its economy, for jobs for these young people,
• 1:20:07
  as well as some older people who have returned
• 1:20:10
  to school. The commission says the college now
• 1:20:12
  falls into standard evaluations, including one
• 1:20:14
  of institutional effectiveness scheduled in 2027.
• 1:20:18
  All the while folks like Morgan are glad to breathe
• 1:20:20
  a sigh of relief knowing NIC did what it could
• 1:20:23
  to bring its good standing as a school back.
• 1:20:25
  for the communities. Very excited. This has been
• 1:20:28
  a long journey for the college. NIC SAF says
• 1:20:32
  its improvement stems from multiple staffing
• 1:20:34
  changes going on over the past several years.
• 1:20:37
  Everyone attending was relieved to hear the news
• 1:20:39
  and hopes as time goes on, NIC doesn't end up
• 1:20:41
  in a similar situation in the future. Yes, but
• 1:20:44
  it won't unless the public votes incorrectly
• 1:20:46
  again. Just to remind you, we played this on
• 1:20:48
  the first show that we did, like I said, with
• 1:20:50
  Todd Manducci, who we did a two hour plus deep
• 1:20:53
  dive into what really went on there. play for
• 1:20:55
  you guys, William Lee's testimony from one of
• 1:20:58
  the public hearings where you will hear described
• 1:21:00
  exactly the mechanisms, the establishment people
• 1:21:04
  use to create this chaos and manipulate the state
• 1:21:07
  into having the Board of Accreditation threaten
• 1:21:11
  the college. It was manufactured. It was a hostage
• 1:21:13
  situation. The accreditation agency can only
• 1:21:16
  put their spotlight on a school when there is
• 1:21:20
  someone that reports or files a complaint. Who
• 1:21:24
  was the person that filed that complaint. There
• 1:21:27
  was just one organization that did it. There
• 1:21:29
  were two complaints. When the first one didn't
• 1:21:31
  really garner the response that they wanted,
• 1:21:34
  they filed a second one. Would you be surprised
• 1:21:36
  if I told you that one of the trustees on this
• 1:21:40
  board is the president of that organization?
• 1:21:42
  That trustee is Christy Wood. Trustee Christy
• 1:21:46
  Wood we've seen through several meetings for
• 1:21:49
  the past two years. has tried to take the high
• 1:21:52
  road and behave as though she's altruistically
• 1:21:54
  seeking the best interest of the school, saying
• 1:21:58
  that the school is in crisis, crisis of leadership,
• 1:22:02
  whatever. And even going to the CDA press and
• 1:22:06
  sounding the alarm that the school's in getting
• 1:22:08
  in trouble. Trouble. Yet her organization is
• 1:22:11
  the one sending the complaints to the accreditation
• 1:22:14
  agency. Weird how that works. If that sounds
• 1:22:16
  bonkers to you, it's because it is. Yep. It's
• 1:22:20
  essentially the metaphor is you go in, you clean
• 1:22:23
  up your house, the meth head who lives in the
• 1:22:25
  house steps outside of the house and says, stop
• 1:22:27
  cleaning up or I'm going to burn this motherfucker
• 1:22:29
  down. And then when you don't stop cleaning up,
• 1:22:32
  I want to clean it, light the house on fire.
• 1:22:34
  And then they go, you did this to us. You look
• 1:22:37
  what you did. You burnt down the house. We liked
• 1:22:39
  it. The we liked our roach infested gray gardens
• 1:22:43
  house just the way it was they're lighting the
• 1:22:45
  building on fire They're yelling at you. You
• 1:22:47
  did this to us. You've burned this down That's
• 1:22:51
  what this is. That's what this was and now that
• 1:22:54
  They have everybody they want on the board and
• 1:22:57
  as the president and it's a total rubber stamp.
• 1:23:00
  It's There's not a single conservative on the
• 1:23:02
  board. They get what they want Oh and when you
• 1:23:04
  know it magically their accreditation comes back
• 1:23:06
  and they even said it it had nothing to do with
• 1:23:08
  financial or academic stuff it had everything
• 1:23:10
  to do with personnel how the how the the board
• 1:23:13
  was governing the college in other words the
• 1:23:15
  Establishment lost control of the board and they
• 1:23:17
  flipped out and threw a tantrum and started pulling
• 1:23:20
  all of their levers of state power to try to
• 1:23:22
  get back into Their rubber stamp positions and
• 1:23:26
  they succeeded. Yes, they did. It's hard to fight
• 1:23:28
  man hard to fight the power here is a Just a
• 1:23:30
  quick, just to wrap up this saga for the moment.
• 1:23:34
  Here is 4 News Now's version of the story. North
• 1:23:37
  Idaho College is officially keeping its accreditation.
• 1:23:40
  The school has been on probation for the last
• 1:23:42
  four years. The college credits new trustees
• 1:23:45
  elected in 2024 with putting the school on the
• 1:23:48
  right track to get back in compliance with the
• 1:23:51
  NWCCU. Maintaining accreditation will allow students
• 1:23:55
  to continue to apply for financial aid, and their
• 1:23:58
  credits will transfer to other schools. So now
• 1:24:01
  thank God that our students can continue getting
• 1:24:03
  themselves into debt they can never get out of.
• 1:24:05
  What a victory. you would think they were the
• 1:24:30
  saviors of society or saviors of academics. So
• 1:24:33
  that's how these, that's how academia behaves.
• 1:24:35
  They think of themselves as the hero of every
• 1:24:37
  story. You can't, they are beyond reproach. They
• 1:24:39
  are beyond criticism. They are the heroes in
• 1:24:42
  their own story because you just, it's sacrosanct.
• 1:24:45
  Academia is considered sacrosanct. You can't
• 1:24:47
  touch it. You can't criticize it, which by the
• 1:24:49
  way, one of the hallmarks of being able to identify
• 1:24:53
  a cult is that you were not allowed to criticize
• 1:24:56
  it. We're ready to move forward, and we are moving
• 1:25:00
  forward. The far -right Nazis have been ousted,
• 1:25:03
  thank God, and now that the public voted correctly
• 1:25:05
  and the establishment is back in power, we can
• 1:25:07
  release our hostage grip on our pawn. I mean,
• 1:25:10
  the college... The North Idaho College leadership
• 1:25:12
  says it is grateful for the community support
• 1:25:15
  that kept the school from losing accreditation.
• 1:25:18
  What was that first bit you just played? Is that
• 1:25:20
  a real... The far -right Nazis have been ousted,
• 1:25:23
  thank God, and now that the public voted correctly
• 1:25:25
  and the establishment is back in power, we can
• 1:25:27
  release our hostage grip on our pawn. I mean,
• 1:25:30
  the college— The North Idaho College of Leadership—
• 1:25:33
  Did you put that together? That might have been
• 1:25:34
  me. I mean, it's believable, though. In a candid
• 1:25:38
  moment, that is absolutely believable. That's
• 1:25:41
  what I was wondering. Who the hell said that?
• 1:25:42
  Now, that's what they're all— that's what they
• 1:25:44
  all actually think. The reason I put that in
• 1:25:48
  there, A, was for comedic effect. But B, because
• 1:25:50
  this is a... For one, it's sort of believable.
• 1:25:54
  What isn't believable is that Four News Now would
• 1:25:56
  air it. That somebody would say it to a Four
• 1:25:59
  News Now camera person and boom my guy? Completely
• 1:26:01
  plausible. Four News Now would have never aired
• 1:26:03
  it. This is like something that a Veritas project
• 1:26:05
  would... you know, would glean. Yes, sit down
• 1:26:08
  and meet somebody for coffee and pretend to be
• 1:26:10
  with, you know, I'm on your team. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:26:13
  The next day it's on the Internet like, look,
• 1:26:14
  this person thinks you're all a bunch of Nazis.
• 1:26:16
  Let's find some gay guy who's lonely and then
• 1:26:19
  send James O 'Keefe out on a date with him and
• 1:26:21
  then get him to say stuff like what you want
• 1:26:23
  about James O 'Keefe. I know a lot of people
• 1:26:25
  don't dig him, but the dude gets some great dirt
• 1:26:27
  and fantastic. Yeah, I thought you'd like that.
• 1:26:30
  Well anyway, so all right, NICs, all is well
• 1:26:34
  in the universe. Thank God. Thank God. I can't
• 1:26:37
  wait to tell my dad that the college is better
• 1:26:39
  now without him. Okay, I think I got one or two
• 1:26:43
  quick ones before we wrap it up. Oh, you know
• 1:26:46
  what? We actually I'm going to read this because
• 1:26:48
  we got a real time donation here. Oh, right.
• 1:26:50
  We really. Yeah, we did. Right now. Yes. So I'm
• 1:26:52
  going to I'm going to break a little rule here.
• 1:26:54
  I'm going to do this outside of the value for
• 1:26:56
  value mid show donation segment because it just
• 1:26:59
  came in. And I want to make sure that it gets
• 1:27:00
  included in this week's show. Let's see the spook
• 1:27:05
  from Spokane. Two two dot two two twenty two
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  dollars and twenty two cents a row of ducks from
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  the spook from Spokane. Awesome. Thank you. Thank
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  you very much. That makes you at least I think
• 1:27:17
  a two time value for value guy. Yes. Spook from
• 1:27:20
  Spokane has donated before and he said he said
• 1:27:24
  good stuff boys. I'm just catching up on Thursday
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  show. Paul should get that shit fixed ASAP. Well
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  you're in luck. Well I'm in luck. The longer
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  tendons go ruptured, the worse the recovery,
• 1:27:33
  less than 10 days is ideal. And as such, spook
• 1:27:36
  from Spokane. I have surgery scheduled for tomorrow.
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  Praise Jesus. So we are we're on top of it. So
• 1:27:43
  we thought we should record today before I'm
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  out of it for the next week. Exactly. All right.
• 1:27:48
  So another executive producer for today's show,
• 1:27:50
  the spook from Spokane. Thank you very kindly.
• 1:27:53
  Thank you very much, man. We appreciate it a
• 1:27:55
  lot. All right, yeah, a couple more quick ones.
• 1:27:58
  Oh, and hey, my offer still stands for anybody,
• 1:28:00
  by the way. Like, you know, you want to meet
• 1:28:01
  up for a cigar and a drink. I'm happy to do it.
• 1:28:04
  Yes, you know, which we should mention. We did
• 1:28:06
  get to do that with Kevin Killian, another frequent
• 1:28:10
  donor. And on Saturday, Paul and I got to spend
• 1:28:12
  some good quality time over some sticks and drinks
• 1:28:14
  with Kevin. When I say it, I mean it. No lie.
• 1:28:16
  Like I said it, then I contacted Kevin and we
• 1:28:19
  did it. It was great. Yeah. A lot of fun meeting
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  Kevin. And Kevin is a huge talk radio nerd, just
• 1:28:23
  like I was, and he grew up on KFI, just like
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  I did, and now we just have to get Paul into
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  Phil Hendry. That's the next step. All right,
• 1:28:30
  a couple more quick ones for this week. A new
• 1:28:32
  bill before the Idaho legislature would make
• 1:28:34
  it illegal to intentionally disrupt a church
• 1:28:37
  service. Representative Bruce Scog wants to amend
• 1:28:40
  Idaho's current statute on disturbing the peace.
• 1:28:43
  Right now it protects neighborhoods, families,
• 1:28:45
  individuals, and funerals. Now he wants to add
• 1:28:48
  religious worship services to that. I remember
• 1:28:51
  reading once someone was like, some chick was
• 1:28:53
  like, if you pay me $500, I will show up at your
• 1:28:57
  funeral wearing all all black holding an umbrella
• 1:28:59
  and stand sort of away from the crowd. So everyone
• 1:29:02
  wonders like, man, what did this guy have going
• 1:29:04
  on? Religious worship services. But she would
• 1:29:07
  be in violation, I suppose, of this bill. Religious
• 1:29:09
  worship services. Only if she made a bunch of
• 1:29:10
  noise and disrupted the service. Right. She specifically
• 1:29:13
  said she was just going to stand there quietly,
• 1:29:14
  so maybe not. Religious worship services to that
• 1:29:17
  list. He says making this change would make the
• 1:29:19
  law easier for police to enforce if somebody
• 1:29:22
  maliciously and willfully disturbs a worship
• 1:29:24
  service. Skogg says he decided to propose this
• 1:29:27
  change. partly because of what happened when
• 1:29:29
  anti -ice protesters went into a church in Minnesota.
• 1:29:32
  Several people were charged with federal charges
• 1:29:34
  in that situation, including journalist Don Lemon.
• 1:29:39
  Trespassing is already against the law, so let's
• 1:29:44
  leave it there. Like, why are we criminal? We're
• 1:29:47
  just criminalizing things now. In fact, I disagree
• 1:29:49
  now that I know. I was today years old when I
• 1:29:51
  learned that apparently it's illegal to disrupt
• 1:29:53
  a funeral service, too. That's bullshit. If I
• 1:29:54
  want to disrupt a funeral service, I should be
• 1:29:56
  allowed to. The guy was an asshole or owed me
• 1:29:58
  money or both. I should be able to show up and
• 1:30:01
  be like, yeah, fuck this guy and fuck all of
• 1:30:05
  you for liking him. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck
• 1:30:09
  you. I mean. Would that be in poor taste? Of
• 1:30:12
  course, absolutely in poor taste. I'm not saying
• 1:30:15
  we should do it. I'm just saying you shouldn't
• 1:30:17
  go to jail for doing it and you definitely shouldn't
• 1:30:19
  go to jail for doing it if you did it. If you're,
• 1:30:21
  you know, kind of scared of what might happen.
• 1:30:22
  And so you mask up while climbing because that's
• 1:30:26
  the thing now, apparently, too, we're trying
• 1:30:28
  to criminalize crime while climbing with masking
• 1:30:30
  while climbing. No, because that's coming through
• 1:30:33
  right now as we speak, Scott, a bill to criminalize
• 1:30:36
  climbing while wearing a mask. But also at the
• 1:30:40
  same time, there's a bill going through to make
• 1:30:42
  it so that police can't wear masks. So, which
• 1:30:46
  is interesting now that you think about it, now
• 1:30:48
  that I'm thinking about it, they're trying to
• 1:30:50
  make it so police can't wear masks and criminals
• 1:30:53
  can't wear masks. Isn't that interesting? So
• 1:30:55
  especially when everyone absolutely had to. But
• 1:30:58
  everybody else has to wear a mask. Lest you be
• 1:31:00
  unsafe and killing grandma. Yeah, it's weird.
• 1:31:03
  Killing grandma is a crime too though, Scott.
• 1:31:04
  Are you sure? Don't we need to pass another law?
• 1:31:06
  Well, if you have the right paperwork and the
• 1:31:07
  right costume, you can kill grandma. But I feel
• 1:31:10
  like we can't kill grandma. If there was a grandma
• 1:31:12
  killing license and registry that you had to
• 1:31:14
  apply for. That's called being a health care
• 1:31:16
  provider. Minnesota. Several people were charged
• 1:31:20
  with federal charges in that situation, including
• 1:31:23
  journalist Don Lemon. As no agenda pointed out,
• 1:31:26
  Don Lemon is not a journalist. Don Lemon is a
• 1:31:28
  news reader. Don Lemon. I think somebody said
• 1:31:33
  this is the Don Lemon bill. It's not. You'll
• 1:31:37
  forgive us. I'm going to build on that and be
• 1:31:39
  like, this bill is a lemon. Get it out of there.
• 1:31:42
  It's not, but that may bring. to mind what had
• 1:31:45
  happened in Minnesota that was so much. Survey
• 1:31:48
  says that was a lie. Take a look at the video
• 1:31:50
  of what happened to that church service there.
• 1:31:52
  This dude saw on the EV news Don Lemon in the
• 1:31:56
  church and he's like, I'm doing this bill. I'm
• 1:31:58
  hopping on this train for sure. That is 100 %
• 1:32:00
  what happened. He's denying it, but survey says
• 1:32:02
  that was a lie. This is going to definitely help
• 1:32:04
  me increase my net worth during my time in office.
• 1:32:06
  It's like a black man in church, not on my watch.
• 1:32:08
  And how people for political reasons interfered
• 1:32:12
  with the worship. of a church. And we've had
• 1:32:16
  some situations like that in Idaho. This is why
• 1:32:19
  you should just pack heat when you go to church.
• 1:32:22
  I do. It'd be, you know, some asshole groups
• 1:32:26
  of assholes storm your church. That's not saying
• 1:32:31
  you necessarily open up the pew pews, but you
• 1:32:34
  unsheath that pew pew. And you're like, this
• 1:32:36
  is the house of God, sir. Don't make me spill
• 1:32:39
  blood in it. disturbing the peace law which is
• 1:32:41
  a misdemeanor up to six months in jail and up
• 1:32:45
  to a one thousand dollar fine the committee ultimately
• 1:32:47
  voted unanimously to introduce the bill next
• 1:32:50
  it will go to a committee hearing that is where
• 1:32:52
  the public will be able to weigh in totally not
• 1:32:55
  a lemon it's not the don lemon bill though has
• 1:32:57
  nothing to do well sort of but it's not that's
• 1:32:59
  not the intention i mean i can see how there'd
• 1:33:00
  be similarities but just lest you be confused
• 1:33:03
  this is not the don lemon bill i'm actually I
• 1:33:07
  shouldn't even be surprised that stuff like this
• 1:33:09
  is coming up anymore. But that's terrifying.
• 1:33:11
  Speaking of being able to weaponize laws, how
• 1:33:15
  are they going to define disruptions? How are
• 1:33:19
  they going to define disturbing the peace? Which
• 1:33:20
  for the most part, I disagree with disturbing
• 1:33:22
  the peace laws to begin with, because they are
• 1:33:24
  one of the easiest things to weaponize. They
• 1:33:26
  are one of the easiest things to just stack onto
• 1:33:29
  a stack of misdemeanors and felonies when they're
• 1:33:31
  trying to make a point anyways. This is a real
• 1:33:33
  problem. Churches already have the right to trespass.
• 1:33:35
  You leave it at that. I'm not saying it's OK
• 1:33:38
  to disrupt services. I'm not saying it's a good
• 1:33:41
  thing. But again, why are we giving the government
• 1:33:45
  more power to stop people from being able to
• 1:33:50
  assemble? Because when the government has more
• 1:33:52
  money and power, the weather gets fixed and everyone
• 1:33:54
  gets protected. Haven't you been paying attention?
• 1:33:56
  And people behave themselves better because that's
• 1:33:58
  how it works. People people just, you know, when
• 1:34:00
  they're told how to act, they just magically.
• 1:34:03
  behave better. Your debt contractor shows up
• 1:34:06
  early, leaves late, comes in under budget and
• 1:34:08
  builds you a beautiful deck because the government
• 1:34:10
  licensed him. You know, I don't know. This is
• 1:34:12
  not complicated. I don't know where the confusion
• 1:34:15
  is. Oh, actually, that's all bad. That's a lemon.
• 1:34:17
  Pun intended. Bad. Last one for... By the way,
• 1:34:21
  just because I'm going to cover our asses here,
• 1:34:23
  I obviously don't support shooting people in
• 1:34:26
  general, but also in church. You know, I'm, I'm
• 1:34:29
  making sacrilegious jokes. I am a man of faith.
• 1:34:31
  I do attend church. I do pack heat in church,
• 1:34:34
  but it's for, you know, that hopefully never
• 1:34:36
  ever happens scenario type thing. So, so for
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  legal reasons, these are jokes and we're just
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  having fun. Laugh. Glad you clarified in the
• 1:34:44
  words of that crazy. Any, any a gal laugh, say
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  the words. Yeah. Okay, where is the least Idaho
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  thing? Oh, yeah, I think it was this one. Yes,
• 1:34:58
  we did. We did save it for last. Here is one
• 1:35:02
  more Idaho bill thing, and it's going to be the
• 1:35:04
  source of a sound clip you're going to hear,
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  so I want to play it. If you'll forgive me, I'm
• 1:35:09
  sorry. I know it's more NPR. The Idaho House
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  gave the green light on Thursday to a bill that
• 1:35:15
  would ban cities and counties from passing anti
• 1:35:18
  -discrimination laws. Only the state legislature
• 1:35:21
  could adopt an anti -discrimination law under
• 1:35:23
  the bill, which lawmakers have rejected for more
• 1:35:26
  than a decade. Several Republicans who support
• 1:35:29
  the measure, like Representative Clint Hostetler,
• 1:35:31
  say gay and transgender people are using these
• 1:35:34
  local ordinances to push their views onto religious
• 1:35:37
  conservatives. Now you see this is NPR sleight
• 1:35:40
  of hand. It's perfect sleight of hand where you
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  say gay and transgender people and then you say
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  onto religious conservatives instead of just
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  to push their views on everybody or on people.
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  Well, but it's not even it's It's not gay and
• 1:35:54
  transgender people that are pushing. It's the
• 1:35:56
  political left. Yes. Most of which are not gay
• 1:35:59
  or transgender. No, it's actually generally speaking,
• 1:36:01
  it's straight white women. Exactly. It has it
• 1:36:05
  has very little to do. Mayor McLean of Boise.
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  She's the poster child for that in Idaho right
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  now. Oh, yes. Far left. Call me Pinko, mayor
• 1:36:13
  of Boise. Yeah. Who is who is making a career
• 1:36:15
  and spending lots of taxpayer money in Boise
• 1:36:18
  to fight over a flag. so she can, oh man, don't
• 1:36:21
  even get me started, yeah. Straight white women.
• 1:36:24
  That's right. It's classic sleight of hand where
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  you do, what would you call it, like identity
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  group as defined by the mainstream media, LGBTQ,
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  transgender, gay, and then you say against a
• 1:36:37
  political group, the conservatives. Yep. It's
• 1:36:40
  the political left against the political right.
• 1:36:43
  But when you do it this way, that's how you,
• 1:36:45
  that's what we mean, that's what people mean
• 1:36:46
  when they say identity politics. This is sleight
• 1:36:49
  of hand, it's bull crap. And by the way, the
• 1:36:51
  notion that all quote gay and transgender people
• 1:36:54
  close quote think the same, you freaking bigots
• 1:36:57
  over there at NPR, who are you kidding? Senator
• 1:36:59
  Clint Hostetler say gay and transgender people
• 1:37:02
  are using these local ordinances to push their
• 1:37:05
  views onto religious conservatives. This isn't
• 1:37:08
  about acceptance. This is about dominance. And
• 1:37:11
  I just see this as setting the record straight.
• 1:37:16
  We cannot abuse or impose the will of anything
• 1:37:19
  against our faith community. Democratic Representative
• 1:37:23
  Monica Church and the rest of her party joined
• 1:37:25
  a handful of GOP lawmakers in opposing it. She
• 1:37:29
  says it further erodes the state's embrace of
• 1:37:31
  local control. What is the long term effect of
• 1:37:35
  voting for a bill that says Cities serve at the
• 1:37:40
  pleasure of the state. Yikes. That is the only
• 1:37:44
  thing I have ever. Well, exactly. And now the
• 1:37:48
  centralization of power all of a sudden gets
• 1:37:50
  trotted out. Oh, we just love the notion of decentralized
• 1:37:54
  control. We are the Democrats. I agree. Actually,
• 1:37:57
  decentralized power is the way to go. And cities
• 1:38:00
  should be able to dictate this. Anti -discrimination
• 1:38:03
  laws are absolute rubbish and they're total bullshit.
• 1:38:06
  But. decentralized power as much as we can obtain,
• 1:38:09
  it's the way to go. So I actually agree with
• 1:38:11
  the with the overall, of course, premise of that
• 1:38:14
  particular argument. It just, of course, a Democrat
• 1:38:16
  saying the only time that a Democrat and even
• 1:38:19
  most Republicans, really, frankly, will make
• 1:38:22
  the argument is when it serves their particular
• 1:38:24
  ideology. Otherwise, we wouldn't hear from them
• 1:38:26
  on this at all. Serve at the pleasure of the
• 1:38:30
  state like if a city proposed, for example, to
• 1:38:34
  cut the waste management tax by 88 cents per
• 1:38:37
  person, then all of a sudden they don't give
• 1:38:39
  a shit about decentralization of power. And the
• 1:38:43
  state tax commission comes in and goes, you can't
• 1:38:45
  do that. And I don't hear the Democrats or most
• 1:38:48
  Republicans going, well, wait a minute. What
• 1:38:49
  about decentralization of power? It's almost
• 1:38:52
  like they're inconsistent. It's almost like they're
• 1:38:54
  inconsistent. Yikes. I agree. Yikes. Here's the
• 1:38:58
  sound clip. That is the least Idaho thing I have
• 1:39:01
  ever heard. Idaho's largest county and 12 have
• 1:39:04
  these laws on the books. The bill now heads to
• 1:39:07
  a Senate committee for consideration. All right.
• 1:39:10
  Well, just get ready. You heard that one from
• 1:39:12
  Democrat church that according to her, that is
• 1:39:15
  the least Idaho thing we have ever. That is the
• 1:39:17
  least Idaho thing I have ever heard. Listen to
• 1:39:20
  the conviction. Great sound bite though. It's
• 1:39:22
  a fantastic sound bite. But if we're going to
• 1:39:24
  play that game, allow me to one up you, Mrs.
• 1:39:27
  Church. Hold my beer. Finally for this week,
• 1:39:31
  episode number 15, closing out here on No ID.
• 1:39:34
  Just in case you wanted to get high in the Kootenai
• 1:39:36
  County Jail, it was entirely possible just a
• 1:39:39
  few weeks ago, but now... We are following some
• 1:39:42
  breaking news out of Kootenai County. The Sheriff's
• 1:39:44
  Office is shaking up how the jail handles legal
• 1:39:47
  mail. Starting February 23rd, the jail will only
• 1:39:51
  accept sealed mail through the U .S. Postal Service.
• 1:39:54
  Before this, people could drop off mail at the
• 1:39:56
  front desk of the facility. But that's changing
• 1:39:59
  due to recent overdoses. Back in December...
• 1:40:02
  Is that how the drugs got through? Through a
• 1:40:03
  parcel that was just dropped off at the office?
• 1:40:07
  Isn't that what they... I'm trying to... Did
• 1:40:09
  they not actually disclose when we did the story
• 1:40:12
  originally? They did not? No, remember that was
• 1:40:14
  one of our big questions. Was how this happened?
• 1:40:15
  Was how they got... the drugs through in the
• 1:40:19
  first place. Well, you know what, is this a tacit
• 1:40:22
  admission that it happened through the mail?
• 1:40:23
  It must be. Yeah, by inference, they either discovered
• 1:40:27
  that this was the method through which the drugs
• 1:40:30
  got through. Sorry, bad sentence structure there.
• 1:40:33
  or they just decided let's close this one and
• 1:40:36
  narrow it, I don't know, narrow down the variables,
• 1:40:38
  I guess. Due to recent overdoses, back in December,
• 1:40:41
  six inmates overdosed on fentanyl. Deputies gave
• 1:40:45
  them Narcan and took them to the hospital, leaving
• 1:40:47
  the jail short staffed with six of nine deputies
• 1:40:50
  taking inmates again to the hospital. A search
• 1:40:53
  of the jail uncovered fentanyl, and authorities
• 1:40:56
  arrested a 37 -year -old man for bringing it
• 1:40:59
  in. The jail says this change only applies to...
• 1:41:02
  It's illegal mail. Right, so I guess you still
• 1:41:04
  can sneak it in through a parcel. Yeah, well,
• 1:41:07
  wait, did they say? For this, people could drop
• 1:41:10
  off mail at the front desk of the facility. Okay,
• 1:41:12
  so obviously that's how it came in. Why was that
• 1:41:15
  ever? Why would you ever? I didn't know you could
• 1:41:17
  do that. But why not? What's wrong with that?
• 1:41:20
  Who cares? I don't see a problem with that. Why
• 1:41:22
  would? Who cares? I, well. Okay, for instance,
• 1:41:26
  as an example. I've spent a little time in that
• 1:41:30
  facility. Oh, that's why. It's because you wanted
• 1:41:31
  to receive contraband. I did. I wanted butt drugs.
• 1:41:34
  That's what I wanted. My whole premise is based
• 1:41:37
  on the fact that I wanted butt drugs while I
• 1:41:39
  was in county jail. Yep. You got me. No. Do you
• 1:41:43
  want to get high? I did. I did when I was in
• 1:41:46
  there. It's a terrible place. In all seriousness,
• 1:41:49
  though, as someone with some experience of that
• 1:41:52
  process, I live here. My wife lives here. And
• 1:41:55
  it would have been awesome. if my wife could
• 1:41:57
  have just gone to the front office and dropped
• 1:41:59
  me off a book. Yeah. A book. A book. Got it.
• 1:42:04
  Air quotes. A book. Yes, of course it would have
• 1:42:08
  been, but I think, I mean, not I think. Do you
• 1:42:10
  know how hard it is to get a book up your butt
• 1:42:13
  and like get it through? It's not. But I've heard
• 1:42:16
  the reading experience is so much more intense
• 1:42:17
  that way. You know, I might start listening to
• 1:42:21
  audio books now. What about podcasts? Thumb drives
• 1:42:24
  are way easier to sneak in. Stick with podcasts
• 1:42:27
  or Phil Hendry. Yeah So you you've heard it here
• 1:42:31
  first folks our podcast you could probably smuggle
• 1:42:34
  it into Coot -N -County Jail You yeah, well,
• 1:42:37
  but you can't just drop it off at the front No
• 1:42:39
  send it in via legal legal mail not the illegal
• 1:42:42
  kind legal kind legal mail definitely legal mail.
• 1:42:45
  Okay. Well If you have relatives in prison, please
• 1:42:48
  introduce them to the show. Spread the word,
• 1:42:50
  Know ID. It's how shows grow and we appreciate
• 1:42:53
  it a lot. Thank you in advance. Thank you to
• 1:42:55
  our executive producers this week. Please remember
• 1:42:57
  us, KnowIDShow .com. The value for value model
• 1:43:01
  works when you guys embrace it. It's as simple
• 1:43:05
  as that. Thanks for listening to us, guys. Thank
• 1:43:09
  you for being here in person, dude. Even though
• 1:43:11
  the circumstances sucked, I appreciated doing
• 1:43:13
  the show with you live. It's always so much more
• 1:43:15
  fun that way. Yeah. Well, between the two cups
• 1:43:16
  of coffee and being an eight out of 10 on the
• 1:43:18
  pain scale, I feel like it was pretty hyped.
• 1:43:21
  It was a good time. It was a good time. All right.
• 1:43:22
  Well, let's continue the good times. We're going
• 1:43:24
  to head over to the racketeer for some sticks
• 1:43:26
  and some legal kind of things and some links.
• 1:43:30
  And until episode 16 from Post Falls, I'm Scott
• 1:43:34
  and I'm Paul. Taxation is theft. That is the
• 1:43:47
  least Idaho thing I have ever heard.