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521: My Fallen Idol · Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: How's it going, guys going well? How you doing? You know,
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: it's going pretty good. Life is good. Danil, you're good, Joel,
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: you're good. Bringing in there, Zach, how are you. I'm
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: going to see Charlotte Lawrence with her father play the
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: Governor's Ball on side. Oh my goodness, that's going to
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: be sick. It's at City Field this year, which I
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: imagine means the parking lot because they're not setting up
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: stages on the green. Probably no, but isn't city Field.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: It's a stadium, right. City Field is a baseball stadium.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: Governor's Ball is typically a music festival that's thrown on
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: Governor's Island, which is a small little island just off Manhattan.
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: I've never been to it, but this year I'm assuming
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  Speaker 1: because of COVID and protocols and not slamming people into
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  Speaker 1: ferries to get there, it says it's at city Field.
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: Now city Fields a baseball stadium, which makes me think
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: they're using the parking lot. Yea, if you follow my logic. No, yeah, absolutely,
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, in my in my experience, they why wouldn't they?
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why they wouldn't use the field, is
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: my question, because you put a tarp down on. They
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: do concerts inside stadiums all the time. Why not do it?
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  Speaker 1: This is something I don't know because I've never been
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  Speaker 1: to one. When you go to a concert at a
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: baseball stadium, they send me cover the green, Yeah they could.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's because there's multiple stages. Donald that was like,
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those things. It's like lots
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  Speaker 1: of different So they could put a stage over this
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  Speaker 1: parking lot at different stage on that parking lot. That
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: that makes sense, and then then the stadium itself stage
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  Speaker 1: maybe main stage at the in the actual stadium potentially,
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: and then a bunch of stage. I don't know, but
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'll know. I'll know Saturday, Yes you will.
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  Speaker 1: So that's fun. I get to be with Bill when
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  Speaker 1: he sees his daughter play her first major mega festival.
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: You and Bill are sharing a lot of moments together nowadays,
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: aren't you. Oh? I don't know if you saw me
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: at the m's. I did lose? Did you guys? How
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: did you feel when? Did you feel nervous when it
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: was my category? Oh? Yeah, I almost cried when you lost? Dude?
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me right now? Like I was? You
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: want to talk about pissed off. I took the camera
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  Speaker 1: out I was recording. I was like, Yo, it's about
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: to be on and pop and then you lose. And
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sorry, that'll never see the light
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: of day. That's literally verbatim my experience. I was like,
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: except for in the middle of them reading out the category,
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: my internet went out and I was like not now,
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: like whole tight internet And it came back just in
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  Speaker 1: time for them to be like an zach braf and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, yes, here we go, and then it
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  Speaker 1: didn't have I was like, no, it's such a nerve
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: racking experience sitting there. Um, you know, your stomach's turning.
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: How do you not act disappointed when they don't go?
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: I had practiced my um they got it right, face?
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to see it? Yeah, it's not just clapping,
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: but there's a little nod like, yeah, they got it right.
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  Speaker 1: That's it, that's correct. You gotta give the nod to
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  Speaker 1: sell it. Happy for women and them having the opportunity.
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: But fuck that bullshit. Yo, one hundred man, my boy
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  Speaker 1: did the fucking best show. I don't care what they say.
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  Speaker 1: Now I gotta watch some bullshit show that I don't
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  Speaker 1: care to watch to validate, to validate my point that
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: my boy is better. I'm just putting out there. I
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: didn't actually watch. It was a flight attendant, right, I
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  Speaker 1: haven't I haven't seen it. And as the other one,
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: the Hacks right attendant. I know the people on flight attendant.
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: That's brilante in them. I'm okay if they win, I'm
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: sorry they don't know this because obviously I was. I
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: was freaking blacked out. It's the It was director of Hacks. Okay,
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: Hacks is a very good show. You would like a show.
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: It's cute, but it was biscuits. The fucking biscuits were
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: the The biscuits were the main focus on the show
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  Speaker 1: for the whole season. Into an a party. Nothing in
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  Speaker 1: this show Hacks that whatever episode was directed, Uh sure
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  Speaker 1: that has carried on. I don't give a fuck. Um
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  Speaker 1: it's funny. So we go to the after party. Well
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: was any It was fun to be on like the
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  Speaker 1: winning team. You know, everyone kept winning, everyone kept winning,
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  Speaker 1: everyone kept winning. Was so exciting and it was exciting
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  Speaker 1: to go on the stage because Bill said, everybody come
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  Speaker 1: up and then go to the after party, and it
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  Speaker 1: was almost like a horror movie. Like everywhere I went
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  Speaker 1: everyone had a trophy. And then the theme of the
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  Speaker 1: party was biscuits, so it was like biscuits, biscuits, trophy, trophy.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta get the fuck out of here.
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  Speaker 1: That's the bullshit. That's the bullshit. That's the bullshit. And
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  Speaker 1: I dare to say it. The theme of the party
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  Speaker 1: was biscuits. I dare to say it. I believe I
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  Speaker 1: believe the producers of the show even thought you were
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  Speaker 1: gonna win. Um, yeah, I don't know whenever. It's feel
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  Speaker 1: silly to talk about it now, but I did lose,
• 4:54
  Speaker 1: but it was fun to go. When it's over, there's
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  Speaker 1: like this sigh of relief because you know, you're so tense.
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  Speaker 1: I was been realize how tense I was. I obviously
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: really wanted to win, but my stomach had been so
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: tight and turning over the whole thing. There wasn't that
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  Speaker 1: what if I did win it? Oh, of course I
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: practiced my my speech. I I I definitely thought about
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  Speaker 1: the words that I was gonna You didn't want to
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: run up on the young lady and be and do
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  Speaker 1: like a yeasy yeah, and be like you know, Bill
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence made the best video ever. You don't don't want
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to, you don't want to run up
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  Speaker 1: on stage and do anybody. ODB has the best one ever.
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  Speaker 1: ODB had finish. That's some bullshit. I'm but Beyonce had
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  Speaker 1: the best video ever. He wasn't wrong, but he shouldn't
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: have done it. Well. It's the same thing when Woo
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: Tang lost. He's like, look y'all, fucking ODB goes up
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: on stage with a suit. I put a suit I bought.
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: I went and bought a suit for y'all. You know
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: what I mean. Puffy, You know Puffy's good, but you
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: know Woo tanks for the kids. Also, I should have
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: gone up there to the Hacks director and said, um, listen,
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you finish. Yeah, no, but episode two.
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  Speaker 1: But Bill Lawrence had the best video every Anyway, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: congratulations to Hacks. You know it actually is a great shows, smart, extraordinary.
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  Speaker 1: The young girl Hannah is incredible too. I saw her too.
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: I told her. I told her. Just as I came
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  Speaker 1: out of the porta potty, I saw her and I said,
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  Speaker 1: you are so talented, and uh, it's fun. You know,
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: it's fun. She said, thank you, I'm about to take
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: the award from you. No, she was the actress, not
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: the filmmaker. Okay, um she uh it was cool. I
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: don't know what to say her than it was so
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  Speaker 1: fun seeing lots of people. Lots of people sent their
• 6:56
  Speaker 1: love to you, Donald. They were like a married couple.
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: Whenever someone sees me to like said my love to Donald,
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: I want to know who did that? Who did that?
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: Keenan did that? I love him? Thank you, Keenan. I
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: miss you, brother. This is all the people that sent
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: their love to me through you, like Kevin Figy. I
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: saw it a picture, bro. Yeah, I had a cool moment.
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: You guys will geek out. I was at the valet
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: with Elizabeth Olsen and and her I don't know if
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: it's her. He was hanging out with the Scarlett Witch.
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: So I went. And also Catherine Han who I've known forever.
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: She went in her question she's she's incredible. She went
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: to and you. Anyway, I was at the valet stand
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: with Elizabeth Olsen and her boyfriend or fiance, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know which one. He doesn't exists and it's not valid
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  Speaker 1: right now. In my eyes. She is a single woman
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: out on the prow, lady to make it happen. Okay,
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: you're married, so take a deep breath. I wasn't talking
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: about for me. I was talking about for my friend. Okay,
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know which friend you're talking about, but I look.
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: I look like three feet to my right and there's
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: the guy with the baseball hat, and I'm like, who,
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: Not many people rocket baseball hat at all times, even
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: award ceremonies. And I said to her, is that Kevin Vaiy?
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: And she goes, yeah, Kevin, do you know Zach? And
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: so he comes over and we just started shooting the ship,
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: and he obviously knows I'm dating Flow. So we started
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: talking about, um, all the exciting things that happened with
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: Black Widow, and I told him that, um, I buy
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: all of the Black Widow toys and I've made basically
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: a shrine to Flow on my mantle of Black Widow
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: toys and uh. And we were just shooting the ship
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: and he was so cool, and then he had the kapper.
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: He said, UM, I've loved you for years. Man. My
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: wife is in the medical profession and I've seen every
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: single episode of Scrubs. Does he want to come on
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: this podcast. I promise I'll be good. Okay, well, I
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: don't know if I worried about it a word, but
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: then I said, yeah, I don't know if Donald can
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: handle it. And then I said to him, what it
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: is your secret? Man, you don't seem to miss And
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: then he did that thing when you knock on your head,
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: like it's would you know, I'm gonna be honest with you.
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: Since he's taken the reins, he literally has put out
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: great cinema after film, you know what I mean, like
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: all of the movies to television everything, even this what
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: if that's going on right now? You know what I mean?
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: That shit is amazing. Fire dude. It's like like he
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: like whatever Marvel is doing right now. I truly truly
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: wish some of my other favorite UH companies would focus
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: on you know what I mean. It's just like it's
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: just I met the director of wand Division two. That
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: great storytelling, man, great storytelling, just like creative storytelling too.
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: Catherine's so cool, man. I'm so happy that she's having
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: this this big break because she's so talented. But do
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: you see but do you see how it works? Zach?
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: Like all of these people put in this work and
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: they do all of this great work and small roles
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: or roles that were supposed to be big and never
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: make it. And then they find a home at Marvel,
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: and Marvel says, yeah, you know what, all of that
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: stuff you you know, all of that stuff is going
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: to pay dividends because in this world you're gonna be great. Now,
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: look at Catherine in that world. She's sucking an awesome
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: and awesome character, and I hope to see her again
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: a man. Yeah, although they told me that there's definitely
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: no more, I was I was like holding out, like
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: they're gonna give these guys tons of money and make
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: another season of that. Somehow, I guess they said no,
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: they just gonna leave it as a perfect little one
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: season thing. Yeah, it goes into it goes into movies. Bro,
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: it all goes into movies. So look, this is how
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: it is the next Doctor Strange movie. So this is okay.
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: So from my understanding, this is how it's gonna work
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: because it looks figy is this one of the smartest
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: freaking execs in Hollywood for this ship? Dude? Look so
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: three levels three levels of uh Superheroes is next? We
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: already had the multi Mega Ship where they all got together.
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: Now we're gonna have the Cosmic Avengers. We're gonna have
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: Earth's mighty Avengures, and then we have the freaking Avengers
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: of the Multiverse, the Multiverse Avengers, And that's where Doctor Strange,
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: Spider Man, Wanda, like Vision, all of these people are
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: a part of that. The galactic one is like thor
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: fucking uh Guardians of the Galaxy, uh, Nova Core, like
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: all of that, all nova, all of that stuff. Then
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: the Earth will be like you know, Spider Man's also
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: in the in the Multiverse one. But then what would
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: that be? That is that coton cosmic? It's not cosmic,
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: it would be what what would it be called? Verse?
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: I guess it would be the multiverse right right anyway,
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: And then you have the Earth one, and I don't
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: know who's gonna be in that one yet, but I'm guessing,
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: like she Hulk freaking uh get my some monstrosity in there,
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Or it could be the
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: Thunderbolts might be Earth. Can you imagine how thrilling that
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: would be? Captain Marvel is a cosmic Like the whole
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: shit is so fucking fire man, And it's like when
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: I was a kid, I dreamt of this, and now
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: here it comes. Here, it comes. Um, did you like
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: my outfit? You look great, right, so good so that
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: that people came into my Twitter comments to tell me
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: how good you looked. Okay, Zach looks so good tonight.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yes, indeed, I'm very sharp. I'm not
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: gonna lie. I was jealous of the way you were
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: looking at Bill when he was given that speech. There
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: was genuine love in your eyes. You were like, not
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: only was there genuine love, it was like it was like, dude,
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: I've never seen you more proud in my life. Well, dude,
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: I love him. And you know, he's been making TV
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: for so long, starting in Spin City and never got
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: an Emmy, never got acknowledged. Look at all the joy
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: he's brought to people from Spin City to Scrubs to
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: Cougar Town to Ted Lasso and lots of other ones
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: that he's you know, not his hands on, but overseas.
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: And look at all the joy and thousands of hours
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  Speaker 1: that he's brought to people and never once got acknowledged.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: And I'm and then I'm standing on that stage just
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: in the corner looking at him. I was just so proud.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: I love him. Yeah, but let's just think about it,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: think about all of the people that he introduced to
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: this world also, you know what I mean, Like, you know,
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: it's really important as anyone when you have the opportunity
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: to look over your shoulder and help somebody else or
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: bring other people with you, it's your duty to do that.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: And Bill's done it quite a bit with you know.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: I did a pilot with Brett Goldstein. I did a
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: pilot with him several years, but not sever this base one. Yeah,
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: with Bill, me, Bill, Brett Goldstein, a bunch of other
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: actors and actresses, like really a really good cast. And
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: it was just really awesome to see Brett win an
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: award because it was like, first of all, Bill bought him,
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: put him into pilot, and that pilot, the pilot didn't work,
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: and he found something else for him, and he found
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: some Not only did he find something else for him,
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: he found something that was perfect for him. And the
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: dude goes on to win an Emmy Man his first
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: time ever being nominated for Sterling says him, shut the
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: fuck up. Stone said, Hi, why, I had the funniest moment,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: we're like Sterling said him, it always feels good when
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: when when UM get dead. Love you know what, I
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: shout out and shout out Sterling, Kay, listen, I'm on
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: the red I'm on the line to the red carpet.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: And it's because most of the time you do these things,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: there's publicists all around, and there's and there's lots and
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: lots of people that aren't the actors or the or
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: the people that are nominated to creative folks. But on
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: this one and been so pared down that no one,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: no one had like a plus one. You're just standing there,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: and again I was wondering, why wasn't with you, you know,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: because I was rodering. I looked to the right and
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: there's Mandy Moore and and we're standing next to each other.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Um online, and we have feeling were you feeling it?
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Like Candy? I know it. It was just funny. We
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: both had a laugh. If it's the paparazzi guy took
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: our picture and she goes, they should put that one
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: next to the one from us from like twenty years ago. Um,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: but it was fun. We caught up and we told
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: stories and she's doing great and she looked beautiful and
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: just yeah, she's had a baby. It's just cool to
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: like be around people that you know, I've known you
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: know you, and I've been coming up alongside all these people.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: So it's just fun to see people catch up. Gives. Um,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: you know Billy Porter. I mean, I know Billy Porter
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: since we were I was about to say, dude, I
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: saw him outrageous outfit. I walked up to him and
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: I tried that on and chose not to wear it.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: I told him they didn't have it in my size.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: What do you say? He was cracking up, did you guys? Hug?
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Of course, hug. I love that. Man. Yeah, man. I
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: watched Billy Porter back in a day on Broadway. My
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: best friend was an usher when he was a teenager
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: or not a teenager, just graduated high school. Uh, And
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I used to go and get to see shows like
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Five Guys Named Mo and Grease with Rosie O'Donnell when
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: it was on Broadway, and Billy Porter was an understudy
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: in Five Guys Named Mo. And I got to see
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: him perform once, and I remember being like, why why
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: the fuck is he the understudy? And then and then
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: and then I went and saw grease, and he was there.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: He was beauty school dropout, he was any you blew it.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: When we were doing um bullets over Broadway, he was
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: in kinky boots and and he called out of his show,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: meaning he be telling this on the podcast, but fuck
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: it um, meaning like I'm too sick to go on today.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: And then he came to see our show. He was
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: like wearing a baseball hat and ship low, trying to
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: be undertoo. You know he's fired when all your homophobic
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: friends are like Billy Porter, the best man. I don't
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: give a fuck with anybody. Say, you know, you might
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: know what people might know him from pose, but that
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: dude has the most insane voice you ever have heard.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: All right, should get in the show Donald phase on.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Oh and then on the airport, I ran into dule
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Hill and I sent you a picture of us. Saw
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: that you ain't loyal dude, and he said he loves you.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I told me he should do a podcast for psych
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: these Jose ain't loyal. All right, everybody, we're gonna about
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: the TV show strugg Now, five stories about show we
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: made about a bunch of nurses. Stories so yead around
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: here yet around here, all right. We got an episode
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: called My Fallen Idol, which was inspired I learned from
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Wiki these Jose ain't loyal. I'm a little upset. No, no, man,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not over it. I'm not over this type.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And now I see why you didn't speak to Casey
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: for like a week after she told you she wanted
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: to bang Charlie hunt Um, Zach, I love you. Look
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: you got quiet, enjoy doing enjoy doing this podcast by
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: yourself today. I know what's funny about you Know what's
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: funny about Casey's story is that she was like, the
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: game was f mary kill And when she got to
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: her f she was like, I would sit, Zach, I
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: love you and just for that we have an early place. No, Casey,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: come down here also these kids. And that's what it is.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: You tell her what you said for this, You tell
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: her what you just said. Man, and you just caused
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: a big fight. I'm just gonna put it out there.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: It's your fault. She's gonna be like, did y'all play
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: my theme song? Hi? He's so jealous? Oh god, what happened? Well?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I'm telling him out at the Emmys who all the
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: people I ran into? And he's not happy? He's he's jealous,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: and he's jealous that I had a drink with dule Hill.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Well he feels like you cheated on him. I know,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: he's saying these hose ain't loyal. Well, you know, I
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: was a little upset you were jealous on behalf of
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Donald that I was hanging out. Who's this other black guy?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: How dare he? How dare he? What the fuck? Douley
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: was just sitting there mining his own business. But I
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: like to drink mimosas when I fly, So I was like, Doulay,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you want a mimosa. He goes, in fact, I will
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: have a mimosa mimosa. And then we took it and
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I said, pull your mask down. We got to take
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: a picture for Donald. And then Donald put it on
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Instagram saying these hose ain't loyal. And I saw that.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I saw that you've been tagged due. Yeah, was like,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: come on, man, is this the drink? You know? The
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: love is deep over here. I know, I will tell
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: you this. So he almost cried when you didn't win.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I know, I almost did a sweet and he was
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: recording and I was recording the TV. And then I
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: was like, well, who the hell is that chick. So
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: we had to cut the recording off because I was
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: talking shit about all the other nuns. I think it's
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: so cute though, that you guys were recording your reactions
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: because you were so sure I was gonna win. I
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: was for sure one day, one day, I win one
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: for the team. Next time, next all right, send him back.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: We got to do a show. Okay, all right. I
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: miss you, guys, love you. Just like seeing you because
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: it means we get to hear your theme song. I know,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I love it. Is that ringtone coming? I don't, don't
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Joell doesn't reply to my ring tone request? What? Oh
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: my god? Okay, So my fallen idol was inspired by
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: an episode of Mash I learned um where there's a
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: very similar story line UM involving Hawkeye and Radar just
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: a little bit of tidbit um. So it's pretty cool.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Tidbit where'd you find us out? This is on Scrubs Wiki,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: So Wicky could have made this shit up. They don't know. Listen,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: we had a lot of funny stuff in this episode.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I always I started off like not laughing, and then
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: at all you're laughing. It's a slow start. Hold up,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: what's up? With this doctor with taking everybody's pants off.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: This isn't the first time we've seen this. Yeah, he's
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: just his thing. I I don't know if it's supposed
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: to be that he's gay and likes to look at
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: men's packages or I mean, what could be the only
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: other reason when Turk found out he had diabetes. Wasn't
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: he in his underwear? Yes? Yes, guy, this guy's got
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: pink eye and another guy has mole and a mole
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: and they have to take their pants off. Yeah, I
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: think it's just pink pants off. So Cox has a
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: big meltdown because of losing the three patients. Um he
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: leaves the hospital. He comes to work drunk, j freaking
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: freaks out by the JD does not like It's not
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: that he doesn't like it, he was also freaked out
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: by it, like kind of fucks him up, Like you know,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: he turns his back on his mentor well, he's he's
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: his hero. And to see someone you look up to
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: fall Like if I saw Bill like in the fetal
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: position because his show got canceled, I think I'd be
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: freaked out. I'd be like, Bro, I need you to
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: be like my leader, my leader, not like you need
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: to not be this right now, bro, Yeah, right, so
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I understand it. Um, Gloria, we get we get clear
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: that Gloria is in fact with Leonard and she's never
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: going back. Dude, She's never going back because of the expression,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: once you go black, you never go back. But then
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Leonard loves him some white meat. Yeah, Leonard love white meat.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Not only does he love white meat, he thanks God
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: pretty much. God. I love me some white meat. Is
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: that what he says? I love me some white meat? Yeah? Um, yeah,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: there's an expression, once you go black, you never go back.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I like to say, as a Jewish person, once you
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: go tribe, you've got to subscribe. You must subscribe. Oh
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: my gosh. Um, we learned that um Barry um Elliot's
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: brother was sent to Heterocamp. Yikes. This sounds like that
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: brother that's on I'm freaking on the on the internet
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: now that was delivered from being gay and he's like,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not gay no more, trying to fight the demon down.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I love Winnings. Was that like an evangelist video? This
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: is a real video like this, This dude, I don't know,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know much about the gentleman, you know what
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I mean? But he said that, but he believed he
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: had been converted, right. I don't know if he's gay
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: again now or if he's not gay anymore. I don't know.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Like you know, I don't think you can pray the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: gay away, you know, he can't. I don't. I I
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: come from that also, I feel the same way. But
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: there are people that are holding their true feelings inside
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: in the name of their religion. And yeah, that's very scary. Yeah,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: it's very scary. Yeah. Um okay, So Carl is very
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: hormonal and very worked up. Yes, she she comes up
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: with the plan that we're all going to take turns
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: monitoring doctor Cox. Yes. Then we learned there's a donkey
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: boy in the ICU. Yeah, the face that you and
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I make when the janitor says I was like, no way.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh my god, there's a
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: donkey boy in the ICU. And then Keunsel goes, for
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: God's sake, stree, there's a donkey boy. Um. Still, then
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: we go see the donkey boy and he's just a boy.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Well first he looks like a donkey and then and
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: then the fan he's over and he just looks like
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: a boy with buck teeth. Then what's crazy is we
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: learned that Kelso invites us to a donkey show. Yes,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I understand it. I don't know much. I've never been
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: to one. But is it where where does a woman
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: pleasure a donkey? Is that what happens? John? Yeah? Or
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: a donkey's pleasured but yes, or a donkey pleasure as
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: a woman. One of them, one of those two things.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: One of the son there enjoys it. Now we also
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: learned that that he goes every Thursday. Yes, it's a
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: standing invitation, standing invitation. So wait, now listen, So not
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: only into Korean prostitutes. I forgot if they were Korean.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: It's either Korean a Filipino. I think it's Korean Filipino.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Sounds too hard to say. Yeah, he's into Korean prostitutes. Yes,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: a donkey shows once a week. He's also into bestiality. Yeah,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: what is next? Well, I mean the donkey Yeah, once
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: you get to the donkey part, Yes, it gets a
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: little twisted. One donkey show. Listen if you were like
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: in your life, I don't I think if you're in like,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: where do they do donkey shows? Like? Um? Like nowhere? No,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: don't put that on Thailand. Dude, don't do that. What
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: is even happening? Joel? Can you learn where and where
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: and where do they do donkey? No? You know she
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't want that on her search engine. Jellet reminders. Daniel
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: will tell you don't forget that donkey show tonight, Joe, Yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: incognito mode. Joel's gonna get email. It's like, hey, there's
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: a donkey show in your area. Where do they do?
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's either you wanna or bank hark. I
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: think you're right with I think TJ might be I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: think t J might be better. I'm not gonna lie.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I just googled where do they do donkey shows? And
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: as opposed to you know how like Google will give
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: you like an answer up top, as opposed to just
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: links straight up Tijuana, Mexico. Yeah, there you go. Wow.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: So if you're interested in this kind of thing, now
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: we assume that Scrubs takes place in Los Angeles. Maybe
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: it's close to Mexico. Maybe you're saying that he goes
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: to TJ everything, Maybe he maybe he maybe Scrubs takes place. No,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: because because Elliot has to take a train to go
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: to Sea World, so that wouldn't work. No, it doesn't
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: work right. Why would Elliot have to take a long train,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: a midnight train train midnight train to um So. Wait
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: a second, unless Kelso doesn't go to Tijuana every Thursday.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: He knows an underground donkey show. Yeah, it could be
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: black market donkey show. A black market underground donkey show. Okay,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: that's probably more likely. Yea um, but never Nevertheless, Turk
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and j D pass on the donkey show standing invitation,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and they pass on every version of that invitation. Then
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: we hear Jack's first words, daddy drinks a lot. Yes, unfortunate,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be sucked up. I remember that there was
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: those were twin boys, and that they must have just
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: learned to talk because they never had a line before.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think Todd. Todd tells the nurse, nurse, I
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: need you to drain some fluid, and then I need
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: you to help me with this patient. Boy can't exist.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: He can't exist in this world and in real life.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Todd does not exist in real life. If you're a
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Todd in real life, you've been fired and you're sitting
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: at home right now, like, what the fuck did I do?
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: You're a Todd in real life, and you haven't been fired,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: then you should be. Um right, you've slipped me. I
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: come to hug you in college and I've got my
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: mullet and this made me laugh so hard. You flipped me,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: and then I go, you're sports Tea. At first, I run,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: do you. I go, you're sport It's team won the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: World Series. And then you flip me and I go
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: a gland slam. So Turk was not into hugging. Turks
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: out into hugging. Now, well, certain people just not this
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: new orthopedic surgeon, which is really weird. Like, first of all,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know you well enough for you to be
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: all up on my shoulder like that, like Turk, like,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think this is for it. This
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: goes for anyone. If you just meet somebody and they're
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: freaking damn near noogieing you when they talk to you
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that, your feelings for that person are
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: gonna definitely be one agro and two be a little
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: put up, like you don't necessarily want to be around
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: somebody like that. And so it makes perfect sense that
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Turk is like that. Not because the dudes are SENSI,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: but the dude is freaking really really really, Like if
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: you watch them in and they're in surgery and this
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: guy's like, fucking gravitu, I get over here, can you
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and me? Guy? I don't person Adelstein who played him,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: and he was very funny. I thought he did a
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: very good job, very funny. But that's that's just my point.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's the fact that the guy's a sensey.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I know it says it in the script, but I
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: think the annoying thing is that the guy's like, you know,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: damn j's j D's description of a sense Our music
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: choices are acoustic alternative. We marveled at fireflies, and the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: only copying we do if our friend, if our female
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: friend is drunk, is coppying her hair back to help
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: her puke. Now you go, sure, we cop a feel,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: but we cop a field by pulling her hair back. Um. Yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: So you upset the the orthopedic surgeon because saying he's yes,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: and Rob has the intercome on of course, and then
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, who's this guy? The most most sensitive
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: guy in the world. And then you see JD go
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: to give the surgeon a hug, Right, is there anyone else?
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Could there it's pretty much a freaking Matthew Perry joke
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: from Friends. Could there be one more sensitive? And then
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: here you go and so he's hugging men. I go,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: it's a little tight. I know, I go a little tighter. Ye, No,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: that's too tight. There's there's a good spot. It's like
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: there's a good medium or something like it said, there's
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: a good spot. So this parachute is Remember Sarah was
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: on the show and she talked about the stuntman who
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: played the guy who parachutes and hits her. How um
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: he was quite older than than she expected. And it
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: was a very weird day for her because she had
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: to make out with the guy because they wasn't like
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: you know, oftentimes if you just have to make out
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: with a random guy, they'll be like, oh, Sarah, do
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: you want to pick one of these guys who has
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: to be the rand them guy you make out with.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: You know, you might pick someone you're at least a
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: little bit of tracking too. Because it was a stunt
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: man and he was just the guy who showed up
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: that day, they were like Sarah, oh, and then you'll
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: be making out with Jim and he was like He's
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: like yeah, with no teeth in his mouth and just
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: one yellow tooth with all the fucking plaque on it. Yeah,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: and poor Sarah make out. Okay, So we got to
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: get into this because this made me laugh really hard
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and we talked about it on this on this podcast
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: a lot. But the more you know that was so funny.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: This is that shit was hilariously. You come home, I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: wrote it down, tough day at the office, so you
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: come home, smother your kids, pop in a movie, maybe
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I have a drink. It's fun, right, No, don't smother
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: your kids. The more you know, Dan'll play that. That's
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: one of the memes that's been sent to me most
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: in my whole Scrubs career. Is this The more you
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: know thing sounds fun right, wrong, Don't smother your kids,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: don't you kids? And by the way, and didn't even
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: the off balance walk out, like the off balance in
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: the video where you're like, yeah, those things were so cheesy.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: You would you hit it perfectly. You kind of would
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: strut out after you drop knowledge on everybody, but you'd
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: have to be but it's like you're off balance, like
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: your knowledge is so powerful that it kind of throws
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: you off. I was spoofing how everyone some people like
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: they lean against the wall and then they push off.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Some people listening to this, they're probably too young to
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: remember these. But there was always sort of a walk
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: away with attitude thing, right, dude. I remember going there Mustick.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I even got it into one of the More you
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Knows where I literally sang it. I was like the
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: more you know? No, did you ever have to do more?
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: You know commercials? Did you do anything? I don't know
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: if I ever did a real one. Oh, dude, I
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: did a real one. I did real ones for it.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I was so happy when they were like, do you
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: want to do it more? You know commercial? I was like, fuck, yeah,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I want to do them more. You know, while you
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: were on Scrubs. The only time I could do it
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: we were on NBC. Oh, because it was NBC's thing. Um.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: By the way, j D gives an indices from Scrubs Wicky.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: JD gives an incorrect description of Munchausen syndrome. When someone
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: fakes or induces an illness in themselves, it's called Munchausen syndrome.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: When they do it to someone else, such as a child,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: it's called Munchausen syndrome by proxy, which is what's actually
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: being checked for in the episode. So there's the but hey,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: does much have Housen syndrome have anything to do with
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Baron Munchausen the movie? Yeah? I don't think think so.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: But let me did you see the Joey King movie
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: on Hulu about the true story of the mom who
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: was like drugging her kid to make her feel like
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: telling her she was sick. That was Munchausen syndrome by proxy.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Eminem has that in one of his songs, Um all right,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Ted's band singing put on a happy Face was delightful, amazing.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: They looked great too. Yeah, and Cox did not want
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: them there. Very special that we get the appearance first
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: and only, I think appearance of Knife French Nie friend.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I feel like it was okay, but that was very
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: funny Nie French, practical and safe and then he stabs himself.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: No and yeah, it comes back later and he goes
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: for kids nine. Friend. Now, I think this menthal Spray
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: thing is so funny. This is real. By the way,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: those of you who aren't in Hollywood, when someone can't
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: cry and or or you did cry, and those continuities wrong,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: They will spray or now I guess they're doing it
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: more and more digitally, but they can also spray this
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: little menthal spray in your eyes, which not spray, they
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: blow it, and it just it's like you have halls
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: in your eyeball and they just start tearing and it
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: makes you look like you're crying and you can can
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I just say one thing. Yeah, It makes it so
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: that JD's able to tell the story about his German funny.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I remember shooting that scene. This is the one scene.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: This is the one scene out of the whole episode.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I remember shooting that. I remember sitting across from you.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: We laughed about this quite a bit, quite a bit,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I remember us laughing about it. We got through the
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: scene pretty fast, but I remember us laughing about this
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: part quite a bit. Last night, my and just how
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: nonchalant lead in my German financier Hans dot on the
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: audible and I have to shoot doctor Accula on my
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: cell phone. But I was also I was stealing the
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: mental a lot of the mentals. I guess there's a
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: lot of crying in Doctor Accula. I guess so, I
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: guess so, I guess so because wouldn't you love to
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: see the cell phone video footage of Jad's attempts to
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: shoot doctor Acula. I'm not gonna lie to you. I
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: want to just see doctor Acula happen. I kind of
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: want that to happen. My dying wish more than well,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: don't die yet, but I kind of. But before they
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: put me in the ground, I want to I want
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: to see doctor Acula. Munchausen syndrome was named after a
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: German cavalry officer, Baron von Munchausen. Baron Munchausen, a man
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: who traveled widely and was known for his dramatic but
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: untruthful stories. Wow, Yeah, you were right. In nineteen fifty one,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Richard Asher described a pattern of self abuse where individuals
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: fabricated histories of illness. These fabrications most often led to
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: complex medical investigations, hospitalizations, and needless surgery. Remembering Baron von
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Munchausen and his mythical tales, Asher named this condition Munchausen syndrome. Wow, Donald,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry when you said that I laughed at you.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Take it back. I do take it back. I'm sorry
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: that I doubted your cleverness. Okay, So what we've learned today. One,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Zach did not win the Emmy. We were all kissed
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: about it. Two Donald Fay zounds pretty clever. Three we're
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: gonna be right back. We're going to commercial brain ever bad.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I like when I'm telling you, I'm trying to get
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: this plan going where you're gonna show the orthopedic surgeon
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: that you're a sense he and he goes to hug colonel,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Colonel doctor, and I go, it's gonna take Okay, we
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: got seven seconds and you go a hug, take seven
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: seconds and I go a good one good. And then
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: when we're about to go, I go, okay. Yeah. The
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: music at the end was very moving. Um, Gary Jules, well,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: let's talk about the monologue first, dude, go ahead, Okay,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: did you think of it? What did you think of it?
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I remember watching this monologue. It's not often that I
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: remember a lot of the shows that we do, but
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I remember or watching the shows that we did together.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I remembered us doing the Acculas scene doctor Acculas Syne,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: and I remembered watching this monologue. I don't know why
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I remember it so much. Maybe I had maybe Johnny
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: brought me in for it to watch it. Or maybe
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: John Michelle brought me in to watch it. I don't
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: know what it was, but I watched. I remember watching
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: that monologue over and over again, and it has some
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: really great beats. And my favorite beat is when you
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: tell them that you're proud of him because you know
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: he cares so much about his patients. And that's not
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: something that a lot of doctors here nowadays, because you know,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of let's keep it honest to survive in
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: a hospital, you can't feel that way. And it was
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: just a great moment in Scrub's history and in the
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: medical field, because when you find a doctor like that,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: it really does, you know, it really does go along
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: where you talk about, you know, Amanda's doctor and how
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: you know he truly put a lot of effort in
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: to helping save Nick and that they became sort of
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: like a family and everything like that. Now and now
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: he's her doctor. Uh, you don't necessarily hear stories like that,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: And you know, shout out to Scrubs for showing the
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: other side of it, because we we did for a
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: really long time make fun of, or not make fun of,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: but make light of very serious situations. And this is
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: a this is a moment in this in the Scrub's
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: history where where it really affects one of our heroes
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: and we show what they go through. I do feel
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: at the end, however, that it's a quick turnaround because
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: of what JD says to him. I do feel like
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: his falling out of his depression is very fast and well,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was meant to be that night.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: I think it maybe that's it. I used inferred that
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: was like a week later. Oh, is that how you
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: looked at it? Yeah, I looked I looked at it
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: as that night, but it was very It's a very
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, the medical field, the you know,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of people on the front line that we
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: talk about they're human and we've made them to be
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: heroes because they are obviously, but they're human too at
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, and everything that you know,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: frontline workers are going through right now, it affects them.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: And you know, we talk about kids in masks, and
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: we talk about us and masks, but let's talk about
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: like how this is going to affect them in the future,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: how it affects people who have had to see death
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: over and over again in the future, how it's how
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: that's how that's going to affect them, and we don't
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: talk about that enough. I think, yeah, um, and unfortunately
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: it's not going anywhere. I don't know we're gonna be
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: with this for a very long time. Yeah, but I
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: think I But I also think that you know, doctors,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: just to get back on it, we don't talk about
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the emotion that they carry. Don't you going to mention
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: how good my acting is? Is that going to come
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: up at all? Well? I thought I did. When I
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: said this seem very indirect, you said that it was
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: moving to oh it was such a great Okay, well,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: the way you delivered it was really great. And I
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: definitely you know, Zach, you're a very talented person, and
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: you're a very very very bright person. And I often
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: say that you're directing is like, you know, top notch,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: and I think you should direct Star Wars and Marvel
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: and all of that stuff. But this was a moment
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: where I watched you on, where I watched you act
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: and perform, where I was very very impressed, And I
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: want to give you a shout out for that. Thank you.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that unprompted compliment it. Thank you. I thought
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: it's a powerful scene and I like it. Yeah, you
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: know I didn't. And you know it's a total straight
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: scene between me and Johnny. And the music was beautiful,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Gary Jewels singing something else and uh, and then that
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: funny button where I try and drink Scotch and he goes,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: you don't drink scotch and I spit it back in
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: the cup and then no, I try and that cool.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I get sent fancy bottles of Scotch and whiskey as presents,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: and I always am like, okay, I'd like google it,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: like wow, this is a really expensive bottle. Let me
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: try this, And every time I'm like, it tastes like
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: paint dinner. You should call me up. I'll drink it
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: for you. Okay, I have a really pricey one that
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Apple sent me here. Oh really, okay, you guys can
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: try it. Do you like scotch, Dane, Nah, So well
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: that's not. It tastes like t is like candy to me. Man,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: anybody's obviously it's anyone who's a scott Yeah, anyone who's
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: a Scotch drinker. There's certain Scotch just like mccau I'm
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: gonna tast something right now, that should tastes like sugar
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: going down. Well, listen, there's no such thing as a
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: person that didn't acquire that taste. No one tasted scotch.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: It was like mmmmm, now you're absolutely right, no one.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: No one tasted alcohol period and was like, this is
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: the best thing ever. Agree, well, I think wine probably, No, man,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: that's just all poison. Literally, you're drinking poison. For all
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: of you out there who don't know, you are literally
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: drinking poison. Yeah, your body's having a reaction to something
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: it doesn't watch, it's having a reaction to poison. Yes,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: to poison. All right, That girl is poison. Never trust
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: a big button smile at girl is Never trust a
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: big button a smile, Daniel, whether it be on a
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: girl or a boy. I was listening. I'm obsessed with
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: this podcast um called Team Deacons. For those of you
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: don't know, Roger Deakons is largely considered one of the
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: greatest cinematographers of all time, and he has he did
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: he DP Empire strikes Back. I don't think so, but
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: if you google the movies shot by Roger Deakins, there
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: will be some of the most that is a fucking
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: fire movie. Peter Shishitzky did Empire Strikes Back. I worked
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: with Peter Shishiski, a guy I used to pay with
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: first Ad Garden State, and he became a big FIRSTDD
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: and now he literally just does the most the biggest
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: movies in the world. He does the Bond movies. He
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: did nineteen seventeen. And yeah, Deakins doesn't just have cinematographers on.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: He as other people in different positions. And he had
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Lurhman on today and I'm like listening and I'm like,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: oh my god, Oh my god. And all of a sudden,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Roger Deakins, who's like living legend, is like, now, tell
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: me about Garden State. And Michael's like, yeah, so Zach,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: and I uh. Rogers like, yeah, we just watched that
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: film because we're gonna have Larry cheron and uh wow.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh my god. And
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: then and then Mike Michael's like, yeah, Zach used to
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: we used to pe a together. He was a horrible
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: pa and oh wow. And they all laugh and Deacons goes, well,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: it's a good thing he going into acting. Then that's funny.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: That's funny. Yes, here by the way, Yeah, we'll be
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: right back and we're back. We've been back. Dude. I
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: don't know why, Joelle, are you recording? Because um, sometimes
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: you don't record the guests. One time, what time happened? Okay,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I got well, you know why you didn't record? He
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: no technical glitch in here? I thought I did. You
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: don't need to do We out agreement that you don't
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: do weed during the show. It's doing. It's vape. Just
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: stick up them clothes, babes. Doesn't stack up your clothes
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: doesn okay, okay, anyway, all right, tell me the guest.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: It's uncontrated. Th HC. It's strong. He doesn't keep his word.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: He doesn't keep his word. Yes, here already, Yes, we
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: got a call. You can talk some you know, like
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: a boll of smoke, some jazz, maybe talking about the episode.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: So come on, Joe, let's get the ladies and gentlemen.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Give me it up for Oh my gosh, Oh my god,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: it's hark, it's har how's it going, guys? Good dude, Joel,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: that was a quick turnaround. Oh my gosh, wow, bumping
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: your you're so we for the audience. It's Archie. He
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: made a remix that he put on Twitter of me
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: and Donald talking Archie. What do you what do you?
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: What do you do? You're a DJ where you would
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: make beats? What do you do? Um? I know, I'm
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: a full time cook at our family's restaurant. Nice. Oh
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: where's your family's restaurant? Now? We are in the small
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: little town in Alaska known as ketch a can catch
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: you can Alaska? Ketch you can Alaska. That's not that
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: tiny town where everyone lives in one building, is it? No? No, No,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: that's not it. Um. We're in like very like if
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: you were to like look at a map of Alaska.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: This is like a hand map of Alaska, like at
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: the very southeast of it. Right there, we're about an
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: hour if you were to fly to see it's like
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: close to Seattle. It's very very close to Seattle, about
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: an hour or so flight. Oh that's good. So you
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: can escape when you want. Yeah, shout out Trajan langdon okay? Um. So,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: but you're obviously a skilled beat maker because he made
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: a beat. Can you play the what you made for
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: everyone so they can hear it because some people might
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: not have heard it? Yeah, hey, but all you're out there,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: drop it now, Dawn not now triple JOP triple jop.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Why ship comes out in the triple JOP, triple job,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: triple job triple job. Why ship comes out in the
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: SLA triple Jop, triple JOP, triple JOP triple Jop. Why
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: ship comes out in the triple Jop triple JOP, triple
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: JOP triple triple triple job, tripple Jop, tipple JOP, triple
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: JOP triple jop. Why ship comes out in the triple
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Jop tipple JOP, triple JOP triple Jop. Why ship comes
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: out in the slack tipple job, tripple JOP, triple JOP
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: triple Jop. Why ship comes out in the tipple Jop
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: triple JOP, triple JOP triple jiple drop, dripple drop, triple
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: dripple dripple drop. Especially in the morning when you wake up, Daniel,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: why are you making that face? How did you come
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: up with the idea to a remix Donald I, A
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: and B? Will you please keep doing it? Because we
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: thoroughly enjoyed it. It's write something to it um the well.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: It was just I listened like when I whenever I
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: listened to the podcast, it's usually during when I'm prep cooking,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: like cutting veggies and everything, and usually I'm either listening
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: to music or listening to the podcast. So I was
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: listening to the podcast the other day and all of
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: a sudden, all I hear is and people drop dribble, dribble,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: dripple drop, and I was like, hey, that's got like
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: a particular rhythm to it. So was Donald talking about
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: his urins dream? Yes, exactly, thats exactly. I forgot what
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: it was from. It was when you you were talking
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: about how as an older forty seven year old your
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: p's like dribbled drop, drippled driple drop. Yeah. Yeah. And
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: first I was like, oh, I could put this over
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: that Snoop dog beat that um do you know which
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: one I'm talking about? Yeah, And that's what That's what
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: I heard first. But then I was like, uh, let's
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: try to do something else. So like I I like,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I I sampled it out and put it on too,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: like uh to my recording program, and then I was like, okay,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: let's let's see what we can make out of it.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, I was just like, okay,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: let's just let's just create the beat. And then that's
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: kind of how it happened. Well, it's very funny. I'd
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: like you to make um some more beats first one
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: using this you honor me honor, and then I think
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: you could really build something off this what you're trying
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: to get into one day or what you're trying to do.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Oh man, Yes, um it's funny. Okay. And also and
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: also this one for fuck sake, to stop talking about
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: your willis okay? Okay, yes, okay, I can do that
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: for you. So wait, So I'm so he's beat making
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: music making your your hobby if you're a full time chef. Yeah,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: it's it's pretty much a hobby. Like I do it
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: just because I love it. I went to school for
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: music and I graduated in music, but I didn't end
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: up doing anything with it, so the I just kind
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: of got burnt out. But then just making beats has
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: just been like a thing that just kind of keeps
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: me connected to doing it, um to to to just
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: being with with music. And you know, it's kind of
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I still kind of aspire to to have a place
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: in like not necessarily the music industry, but just working
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: with with artists and stuff like that. Um, it's kind
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: of it's kind of hard because like that's actually kind
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: of getting into my fixed my life. Okay, but well,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: um well yeah, go go into your fix your life.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: We can do that. First, it's time for for Alaska's
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: favorite segment, Donald What what segment is that? That's what
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about. It's it's called fix your Life. Awesome,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: all right? So you know, I love makings and I
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: aspire kind to get a placement with an artist or
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: even making background music for like commercials and shows. That's
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: kind of the dream. So like, for now, I just
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: gotta I gotta get the music out there. I know
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: it's possible, but the hardest thing for me is to
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: finish a project. I know, it's I don't know if
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: it's like anxiety or worry or just worrying about like
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: being good, but it kind of it kind of cripples me,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: kind of keeps me from like actually getting a project
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: done and putting it out. So my question is just
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: generally like how do I get myself to finish a project?
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: This is something that every artist faces, and it's the
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: difference between people that complete things and get them made
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: and those who get stuck in purgatory. There's no difference
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: between you, if you've got talent, and someone who's living
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: their dream making beats is that they work their asses
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: off and they complete their projects and they hustle hard.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: So you can't sit there and go, why is it
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: not happening for me? If you're not finishing your shit?
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: You know you got to You gotta be hard on
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: yourself and make time commitments to yourself. Say it's so
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: easy to get distracted now more than ever with everything
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: going on in our lives and TV screens and phones
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: and everything which you gotta lock the phone away. You
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: got to turn the phone off. You got to close
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: your door and say, I'm not leaving this room until
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I complete that beat that I've been working on. You
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: have to push yourself. You have to give yourself restrictions.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: It's committing to finish. It really is committing to finishing,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: because you can get halfway there, or you could get
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: three quarters of the way there, and sometimes three quarters
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: of the way there feels like it's enough. Where it's
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: enough is when you finish the project. Now. The thing
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: that you're going through right now, everyone goes through. This
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: is something that all creatives go through. If you're a
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: creative person. You're most likely going through this right now.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. The commitment to finish, to
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: finishing should be all that is when you get to
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: this left to this point, that should be all that's
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: in your mind. I got to finish this project so
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: I can move on to the next. It's not finished
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: this projects so I could sit back and relax. It's
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I got to finish this project so I could get
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: to the next project. Something that really helps me a
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: lot is being accountable to someone. So I will say,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: you know, you could do it with a fellow creative.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: You could say we're going to commit to each other.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: You let's say I don't know she's a painter and
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: you're a music maker. We are going to buy Sunday
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Night fin the Shark thing. Or for me, it's been
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: helpful a lot I've worked with I've worked with coaches,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: like writing coaches who are sort of teachers and coaches,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: but they'll also be like, should be like, okay, so
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: that scene you're gonna write sounds great. Why don't you
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: send it to me Monday morning? So now I can't
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: procrastinate because I my coach who I'm paying money to,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: I got to turn on my homework if you will.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: It's like back in the old days and you had
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: to do it because you had homework. That really that
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: discipline really helps me. And so you can say make it,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: make it, make a deal for no money, Make a
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: deal with a fellow creative and be like, let's give
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: each other a deadline that we're both committed to. You're
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: gonna give me your thing, whatever it may be, piece
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: of writing a poem, painting another song, and I'm going
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: to give you my thing by this date. And you
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: have a commitment and you don't want to break your word.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I find that when I have deadlines, even
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: if they're manufactured, it really helps me. Deadlines work. Man.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I'm doing a I'm working on this project right now,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: and my producer always gives me this deadline. It's always this,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: It would be great if I could have it today,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: but I need it by tomorrow. You know what I mean. Yeah,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: so by the end of the all I hear is
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: it'd be great I could have it to me if
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I could have it today. Because if I could have
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: it today, if she could have it today, then I
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about it tomorrow. You know what
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I mean. It's like you're trying to you know. Zach
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: said something that was really fucking awesome too to me
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: that really made me view how I was doing things.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: If you want something done, give it to a busy person.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I had never heard that before. And you would imagine
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: that a busy person can't get things done for you
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: because there's no time in a day. But someone who's
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: busy has the ability to section their day out and
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: or I should say, arrange their day that they can
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: find space for anything. A busy person is in hustle mode,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: so they will schedule it. They will schedule it, like
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: I have so much going on right now in between
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: prepping my movie and this podcast and a bunch of
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: other life stuff, and like my life is scheduled down
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: to the minute. I wouldn't bought it. I wouldn't bought
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: an event planner like a book, because he told me
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: about that shit. And when you write it down, it's
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: in your face, Stute, it's always in your face. And yeah,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: that's another thing I like, is um. I don't only
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: like digital calendars. I mean they're good for day to day,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: like what do I do? But I like a big
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: ass and they they'll sell look at your well, they'll
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: sell um uh, you can buy them on Amazon or
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: or like a paper source kind of staples kind of
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: they'll sell you a desk pad sized calendar that's the
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: size of like like the size of your whiteboard, or
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: you can use the whiteboard obviously too, but I like
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: a giant calendar and then write on there deadline days
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: and just you got to keep your word to yourself,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: because if you're if you, if you don't keep your
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: word to yourself, then you're just you're you're you're done
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: for your bullshit anyway. If you're not keeping your word
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: to yourself, your bullshit. So set a date that's reasonable
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: for yourself, because you got your job and you've got
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: commitments I'm sure to to friends and family. Set a
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: date that is real, that is realistic and doable, and
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: then just make it and and and promise you and
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: don't break. Don't allow yourself to break your word to yourself. Also,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: know that meeting a deadline doesn't mean you can't make
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: adjustments later. A lot of times I can't. When I
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: when I was having trouble not finishing things, it's because
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, it's not perfect yet, it's not
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: who can possibly look at this? It's awful. Screw that.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I thought I was going to be done by this day.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: So it's done. It still needs work though, Okay, so
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: now I gotta go back and edit. Now I gotta
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: share it with somebody and get some more thoughts. You
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: can always keep project like pushing and growing and making
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: it better. But if you're not finishing, then you can
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: never get to the part where you make it better
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: because you're always sort of the hardest thing is getting
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: it done, Like a first draft done, So get your
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: first your version of whatever first draft is done. Then
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I always find once I've got my screenwriting wise, once
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: I've got a first draft done, I look so much
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: more forward to going back and tweaking and fixing and changing.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: It's just the it's just the amassing. It's like the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: clay analogy. Amassing all the clay first is so intimidating.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: But then once you have it, and you've got a
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: completed song and now you're like, Okay, now I'm done,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: but I'm not. I'm gonna go fuck with it. Then
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: then that's when screenwriting you're going like, take that scene, now, oh,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: what if he's like this and you're shaping. That's so
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: much more fun than the first Like, let me get
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: my first draft thing up to me, Dan, I'll go ahead.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: I also want to add, as someone who has been
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: in your position exactly as a beat maker and has
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: then gone on to actually release music and have it
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: do some stuff, I really recommend harnessing your creativity when
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: you have it. There's a lot of times when you're like, Okay,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I'm in a creative mode, I have to finish this thing.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Instead of concentrating on finishing it, start a new project,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: especially when it comes to beats like what you made
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: for Zack and Donald, which you made for the show
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: we're talking about like a four bar loop. You know
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You have the loop, you have the sample,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: you put it together. That's something that in your head
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: and your first draft can come together pretty quickly. Make
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: hundreds of those. Make a lot of those. Don't focus
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: so much on like I have to quote unquote finish
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: this beat, because, like Joel said, maybe you're never going
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: to finish. But if you cut off the font of
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: creativity by focusing on one specific thing, you might never
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: get anything done. But maybe on the next project. On
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: the next project, you find oh, the creativity doesn't stop flowing,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: and you make a beat for two hours and all
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's done because you just moved on
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: to the next thing. Especially with beat making, do not
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: cut off your font of creativity the second you feel
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: yourself being like, what do I do here? The idea
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: is done. Move on to the next thing. Open a
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: new project, make a new beat, change the BPM, get
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: some new drum sounds in there, just keep creating. Keep
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: that sound like this one one of the here's a
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: great example of what Daniel's saying. Uh so Poc. You
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: just know how Poc has all of his music that
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: he was able to release after he passed away and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: everything like that, like that, there's just so much music.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: And the reason why was because he would go into
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: the studio, do the song, do a rap, and then
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: move on to the next one. And people were like, well,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: what about the phils and what about the let's add
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: the let's let's let's complete the song and stuff. He
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: was like, we could do that some other time. The
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: song is fucking done. You could fucking you got my vocals,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the next song. You know what I mean.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: It's to say it's it's contradictive of what I said earlier.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: But Daniel's absolutely right. Man. It doesn't mean the beats
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: if you're having to if you're saying, oh, I don't
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: feel like the beats finished, but I don't know what
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: to put in it. That'sh's done for now, dude. Let's
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: go to the next one. I want to give you
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: a specific example off of something that we talk about
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: we praise on the show. Think about all the transition
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: sounds for Scrubs Bow that was. That's a single guitar
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: strum and it's attached to being any barn barrow, like
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: making the four bar loop, making the making just the
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: beginning of a beat. That's enough for someone like a
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Tupac or any other rapper or someone to then listen
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: to and be like, oh I got this. Yeah, And
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: then if you want to add to it, you can
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: make something more later. But the more that you commit
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: to and develop something like maybe you're overthinking it. Just
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: take the four bars that you're like, oh, this is
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: really hot, put that aside. Boom, you got it, Make
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: another four bar loop, make another four bar loop, Just
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: keep creating. I have a playlist of hundreds of just
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: four bar loops where I just listen to it over
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: and over because I got the basics down of what
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: I wanted. But it's not like finished. But that's okay
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: because you have the idea down. Make sure you get
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: your ideas down so that as you're like banging your
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: head against the wall trying to finish something, you don't
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: stop the font of creativity. And here's another sound you
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: could use, archie. I think I might have that. I
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: own this one lap and a wrap file, a little
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: home lamar that reminds me of actually uh at the beginning,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: if you listen to the video that was of you
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Zach laughing, there was like a little bit of a
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: sound and I was like, oh, that kind of sounds
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: like a clap too, if I can, if I can
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: use that too. By the way, the other way, the
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: other way to motivate you is um when they're a fire,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: will Well will play them on the podcast and give
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: you credit. I appreciate it, Thank you. I want to
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: wrap over one of them. That will never happen. That'll
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: never happen. It will if you, it will if you
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: freaking submit something send it to Daniel. We could get
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: it gone. We'll get it popping, sending whatever you would
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: like to write the wraps that much anymore, Archie, If
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: you ever want advice, when you gotta, I got a
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: couple of things like that. I got a couple of
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: things that are freaking Wait, Daniel's giving him some real
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: help what he told him to send him the beats? Dude,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I'm just saying, you know, I don't
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: know if you are Aren't you heard me? Wasn't listening
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: to me sending the beats? Aren't you fucking around? I
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: was part of a group called Gladiator. If you want
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: to look us up on Spotify or SoundCloud and see
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: if the kind of music I made is something that
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: you're interested in, I'm happy to give you any advice
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: you need. So just that's if I go to soundtrack, No,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. I can't rub one out. If
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I don't want, I'll send a Gladiator. I can't bust
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: without Gladiator. Oh no, tell about talking about sampling. I'm
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: sampling that. I can't bust without Gladiator. Oh, Gladia, I
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: don't think we have time for one question? Okay, I
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: had these two, but I guess this one's for everybody,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: just because, like I think it'll it'll hit everyone. Uh
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: pretty well. Um, so big fan of movies too. H
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Garden State soundtrack is probably like one of my favorite
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: soundtracks of all time. Um, thank you that soundtracks all right?
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, if anything, it's a mixtape. Oh boy,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: m hmm it is. I mean you can ask him
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: m sound it's a mixtape. But all of those songs
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: were released before. Yeah. He just it definitely got me
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: into like more indie like indie stuff too. Oh, thank
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: he so much. Here here's the thing that, here's the
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: thing that Zach has a very good knack for. He
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: has a feel for emotion when within scenes, and he
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: has a musical connection to it also. You know what
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: I mean. It comes from growing up um loving musicals.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: I mean since that when I if I point to
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: why I'm decent at it. It's the very first art
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: form I ever appreciated was musicals, right, and those are
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: about expressing emotion through song at the right time in
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: a story, right. Um. And so but it but it
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: transcends even into soundtrack you know what I mean? Because
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: but but because it's not like you found these new
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: artists or anything like that. All of these people were
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: around all of these songs. Well they weren't, no, but
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: of course some of them were. But some of the bands,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: like for example, Coldplay, was breaking. But but the boost
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: of the success, the synergy with Garden State, made it
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: happen exponentially more. I didn't help them break. They were
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: on fire, but it poured gasoline on the fire. The
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: shins were about to break, and I fucking drenched them
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: in gasoline. And that made that they were always going
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: to break. But it was just it was the right time.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: And and like Archie said, a lot of people this
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: was the music mean my friends were listening to in
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: la Um and my was surrounded by it. Some of
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: my friends were writing this music. We were going into
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: places like Largo and and and this was kind of
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: the scene that I was in in la and I
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: was surrounded by it. But people like Archie and zillions
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: of other people hadn't heard this kind of music before,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: and it exposed It was so many people to this
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: sort of you know, singer songwriter acoustic sound. I'm gonna
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: tell you something right now, imagin he especially Donald Donald,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: You said that like imagen and what was there was
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: the name of the band that she was in for
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: a beauty of a breakdown, Let Girls, Let go Dude.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: That song, that song I had never heard before, and
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: that's one of the I mean, if you ask me
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: on that soundtrack, that's that. It by far as my
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: favorite song on the soundtrack. It's like, that's I've never
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: heard at that point, I had never heard anything like that.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: That ship was fire, all right, awesome? What was Yeah?
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: That actually brings me to the question for everybody. Um, Like,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: we all love films and TV, so it's like, what
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: is what would be your all time favorite like song
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: piece or background from film or TV? Why are you
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: asking me this? You know? Answer? Yeah, Now you're gonna
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: make him umb the fucking Vaders theme. It's not Vaders theme?
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: What is it? Do it? Do it? We're all waiting, no, no, no, Well,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: the force is what gives a Jedi. It's power, dude,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: do do classic, Do Do do Do Do Do do Classic.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: You can't beat that. Mine is um it's lamb, the lamb,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: the lamb um. All right, we got to end our
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: show there, Archie, thank you so much for coming on.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: We really appreciate you, everybody, thanks for listening. And six
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: seven oh we made about a bunch of docs and
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: nurses and the janitor who loved me him, I said,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: he's the stories never all should know. So gather around
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: you here, ab gather around you here, abbs, but free
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: watch your winds and then mm hmmm