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- Lucas: Luna, I want to talk about something that feels a little counterintuitive — the idea of getting a career mentor who is younger than you, maybe even junior to you in title, specifically to learn what you don't know. Luna: A reverse mentor. I've seen it work really well, but I've also seen it fail when people treat it like a one-way street. Lucas: Exactly. And that's the trap. A good reverse mentorship is not just the senior person getting a TikTok tutorial. It's a genuine exchange. But before we go deep, a quick thing. This show is ad-free by design — we don't run commercials, and that's a choice we make so the advice stays clean and focused. If you find these episodes useful and want to support that approach, the link is buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. It's a simple way to keep us going, and we appreciate it. Luna: Yeah, and it really does make a difference. Thanks for those who have already chipped in. So — reverse mentoring. Let's use a concrete example. Lucas: Great. Let's say you're a 50-year-old marketing director at a large consumer goods company. You've been in marketing for 25 years. You know brand positioning, TV campaigns, in-store promotions. But the company is shifting budget to social and digital, and you're not fluent there. Luna: And your instinct might be to hire a consultant or take a course. But a reverse mentor — someone from the social media team, maybe a 27-year-old specialist — can give you real-time insight into what's actually working, not just theory. Lucas: Right. And the key is that this person is not your subordinate in the traditional sense. You don't manage them. You're peers in this learning relationship. That changes the dynamic. Luna: How do you even start? Do you go to HR and ask for a reverse mentor program, or do you find someone yourself? Lucas: Both can work. But I'd recommend starting quietly with someone you already interact with. Maybe you've noticed a junior analyst who always has smart takes in meetings. Or someone from a different department whose work you respect. Ask them for a 30-minute coffee — no agenda — and see if there's chemistry. Luna: And be explicit about what you want to learn. Not 'teach me social media' but 'I want to understand how you decide which platform to prioritize for a new product launch.' Lucas: Exactly. Specificity signals respect. It shows you've thought about their expertise. So let's say you set up a monthly 45-minute meeting. What do you actually do in those sessions? Luna: I think the first session is about building trust. The junior person might be nervous — they're essentially telling a senior leader what they don't know. So you have to create safety. Lucas: Absolutely. One way to do that is to share something you're struggling with first. Like, 'I'm trying to understand why our Instagram engagement dropped after we changed the posting schedule. Can you walk me through how you'd diagnose that?' That invites them into your problem rather than putting them on the spot. Luna: And then they can show you their process — maybe they use a specific analytics tool, or they check competitor content, or they look at time-of-day data. Suddenly you're learning a methodology, not just a tip. Lucas: Right. And the mentor gets something too: visibility with a senior leader, a chance to practice explaining their work, and potentially a champion for their ideas. That's the two-way part. Luna: I've seen reverse mentoring programs where the senior person ends up sponsoring the junior person for a promotion. That's the ideal outcome. Lucas: But it requires consistency. You can't do one meeting and then disappear. I'd recommend a three-month minimum commitment, meeting every three to four weeks. Luna: What about the risk that the junior person feels like they're just being used for their youth or their cool factor? That can damage trust. Lucas: Huge risk. You have to be genuinely curious about their perspective, not just extracting trends. And you have to be willing to be vulnerable — admit when you don't know something, and thank them openly for their insight. Luna: Another common pitfall: the senior person tries to turn it into a traditional mentorship where they're the one giving advice. That undermines the whole point. Lucas: Yeah, the instinct to 'add value' can get in the way. Sometimes the best thing you can say is, 'That's really helpful, tell me more.' Hold back on your own stories unless they ask. Luna: So let's talk about a specific scenario. Say you're a 45-year-old CFO who wants to understand how the company's AI tools are being used in the finance team. Who would your reverse mentor be? Lucas: Probably a senior analyst or a data scientist — someone who works with the AI models day to day. Not the head of AI, not a vendor consultant. Someone who's in the trenches and can show you the actual outputs, the quirks, the things that don't work. Luna: And you'd frame it as, 'I want to understand the practical limitations of the tool, not the sales pitch.' That's a different ask. Lucas: Exactly. I've seen CFOs who did this and then made better decisions about which AI projects to fund because they understood the operational reality. That's a direct ROI. Luna: What about someone in a more traditional industry, like manufacturing? Can reverse mentoring work there? Lucas: Absolutely. Think about a plant manager who wants to understand how younger workers think about safety or sustainability. Pair them with a frontline operator in their twenties who's active in the company's green team. Suddenly the manager learns why certain safety messages don't resonate, or how to make sustainability efforts more authentic. Luna: It's about closing the empathy gap between generations. And it doesn't have to be age-based — it can be based on any difference in perspective, like someone from a different country or a different function. Lucas: Broaden the definition. A reverse mentor could be someone who's been at the company for six months if they bring a fresh eye. The core idea is: you're seeking insight from someone who has knowledge you lack, regardless of hierarchy. Luna: So if someone wants to try this, what's the first step this week? Lucas: Identify one area where you feel genuinely out of date or curious. Then think of a person — maybe not the most obvious choice — who seems to navigate that area with ease. Send them a short, honest message: 'I'd love to learn from your perspective on X. Would you be open to a 20-minute chat?' Luna: And if they say yes, prepare three questions that show you've done your homework. Not 'what's Instagram' but 'how do you decide between a Reel and a static post?' Lucas: And then listen more than you talk. That's the hardest part for most senior people — but it's also the most rewarding. You might be surprised what you learn. Luna: I think the best part is that it humanizes the workplace. You stop seeing people as 'the young social media person' and start seeing them as a colleague with real expertise. Lucas: And in a world where skills change fast, that kind of mutual respect is not just nice — it's a competitive advantage.