Latest / Fire Footwear: Sneakers Talk (with Matt Frates) / Frank Cooke and Tom Sachs Return to Nike
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- 0:00Some
- 0:00familiar
- 0:01faces
- 0:01are
- 0:01returning
- 0:02to
- 0:02Nike.
- 0:03What
- 0:03does
- 0:03it
- 0:03mean?
- 0:04We're
- 0:04going
- 0:04to
- 0:04dive
- 0:05into
- 0:05that.
- 0:05This
- 0:05time
- 0:06on
- 0:06fire
- 0:06footwear.
- 0:26Welcome
- 0:26back
- 0:26to
- 0:26fire
- 0:26footwear,
- 0:27everybody.
- 0:27As
- 0:28always,
- 0:28this
- 0:28is
- 0:28your
- 0:29host,
- 0:29Matt
- 0:29frates.
- 0:29I
- 0:29hope
- 0:30that
- 0:30this
- 0:30finds
- 0:30you
- 0:30well.
- 0:31I
- 0:31want
- 0:31to
- 0:31thank
- 0:32you
- 0:32again
- 0:32for
- 0:33coming
- 0:33back
- 0:33to
- 0:33this
- 0:33podcast.
- 0:34It
- 0:34means
- 0:34a
- 0:34lot
- 0:34to
- 0:35me.
- 0:35I
- 0:35want
- 0:35to
- 0:35remind
- 0:36everybody
- 0:36that
- 0:36I
- 0:36was
- 0:37on
- 0:37the
- 0:37in
- 0:37kicks.
- 0:38We
- 0:38trust
- 0:38podcast.
- 0:39K
- 0:39I
- 0:39X.
- 0:40We
- 0:40trust
- 0:40podcast.
- 0:41They
- 0:41were
- 0:42great
- 0:42guys.
- 0:42Trevor
- 0:43and
- 0:43Kevin
- 0:43were
- 0:44amazing.
- 0:44We
- 0:44had
- 0:44a
- 0:45great
- 0:45nearly
- 0:45two
- 0:46hour
- 0:46conversation.
- 0:47You
- 0:47can
- 0:47find
- 0:47that
- 0:48wherever
- 0:48it
- 0:48is
- 0:48that
- 0:48you
- 0:48find
- 0:49your
- 0:49podcast.
- 0:49But
- 0:49as
- 0:50always,
- 0:50I
- 0:50want
- 0:50to
- 0:51make
- 0:51sure
- 0:51that
- 0:52you
- 0:52support
- 0:52the
- 0:52people
- 0:53who
- 0:53support
- 0:53me.
- 0:54So
- 0:54go
- 0:54and
- 0:54hit
- 0:54follow
- 0:55on
- 0:55them.
- 0:55Go
- 0:55and
- 0:56find
- 0:56them
- 0:56on
- 0:56Instagram.
- 0:57Follow
- 0:57their
- 0:57account.
- 0:58Because
- 0:58I
- 0:58think
- 0:58it's
- 0:58very
- 0:59important
- 0:59within
- 0:59the
- 0:59sneaker
- 1:00community
- 1:00that
- 1:00we
- 1:01hold
- 1:01ourselves
- 1:01up,
- 1:02that
- 1:02we
- 1:02support
- 1:03each
- 1:03other,
- 1:03because
- 1:03I
- 1:03think
- 1:04that's
- 1:04how
- 1:04the
- 1:04culture
- 1:05continues
- 1:05to
- 1:05grow.
- 1:06So
- 1:06last
- 1:06week,
- 1:07I
- 1:07did
- 1:07an
- 1:07episode
- 1:07about
- 1:08Nike
- 1:08CEO
- 1:09change,
- 1:09and
- 1:10I
- 1:10tried
- 1:10to
- 1:10focus
- 1:11on
- 1:11the
- 1:12positives
- 1:12and
- 1:12negatives
- 1:13or
- 1:13the
- 1:13highs
- 1:13and
- 1:14lows
- 1:14that
- 1:15John
- 1:15Donahoe's
- 1:16tenure
- 1:16at
- 1:16Nike
- 1:16saw.
- 1:17And
- 1:17I
- 1:18think
- 1:18that
- 1:18I
- 1:18missed
- 1:18the
- 1:18boat
- 1:19a
- 1:19little
- 1:19bit
- 1:19on
- 1:20thinking
- 1:20about
- 1:20this
- 1:21in
- 1:21the
- 1:21proper
- 1:21context.
- 1:22I
- 1:22mean,
- 1:22at
- 1:22the
- 1:22time,
- 1:23we
- 1:23knew
- 1:23that
- 1:23the
- 1:23CEO
- 1:24change
- 1:24was
- 1:24happening,
- 1:25but
- 1:25we
- 1:25really
- 1:25hadn't
- 1:26seen
- 1:26any
- 1:26signs
- 1:26of
- 1:27life
- 1:27out
- 1:27of
- 1:27what
- 1:27the
- 1:27new
- 1:28direction
- 1:28was
- 1:28going
- 1:29to
- 1:29be.
- 1:29The
- 1:29thing
- 1:30I
- 1:30think
- 1:30I
- 1:30was
- 1:30right
- 1:30about,
- 1:31though,
- 1:31is
- 1:31that
- 1:31I
- 1:31think
- 1:32most
- 1:32people
- 1:32out
- 1:33there
- 1:33don't
- 1:33really
- 1:33care
- 1:34who
- 1:34the
- 1:34CEO
- 1:34of
- 1:35a
- 1:35company
- 1:35is.
- 1:36I
- 1:36think
- 1:36that
- 1:36sneaker
- 1:37culture
- 1:37might
- 1:37be
- 1:37a
- 1:38little
- 1:38bit
- 1:38different
- 1:38because,
- 1:39and
- 1:39I
- 1:40think
- 1:40also
- 1:40social
- 1:40media
- 1:41helps
- 1:41change
- 1:41that
- 1:42a
- 1:42little
- 1:42bit.
- 1:42We
- 1:43know
- 1:43more
- 1:43than
- 1:43we
- 1:44ever
- 1:44did.
- 1:44There's
- 1:44so
- 1:45much
- 1:45more
- 1:45information
- 1:46that's
- 1:46out
- 1:46there
- 1:46that
- 1:47we
- 1:47know
- 1:47who
- 1:47the
- 1:47CEO
- 1:48is.
- 1:48We
- 1:48know
- 1:49when
- 1:49they've
- 1:49changed
- 1:49things
- 1:50over.
- 1:50But
- 1:51the
- 1:51thing
- 1:51is,
- 1:51is
- 1:51since
- 1:52I've
- 1:52been
- 1:52in
- 1:52sneaker
- 1:52culture,
- 1:53I
- 1:53think
- 1:53this
- 1:53is
- 1:53the
- 1:54second
- 1:54or
- 1:54third
- 1:55CEO
- 1:55that
- 1:55Nike
- 1:56has
- 1:56had.
- 1:56The
- 1:57last
- 1:57episode,
- 1:57I
- 1:57tried
- 1:58to
- 1:58talk
- 1:58about
- 1:58a
- 1:58lot
- 1:58of
- 1:59the
- 1:59positive
- 1:59things
- 1:59that
- 2:00took
- 2:00place
- 2:00for
- 2:01Nike
- 2:01in
- 2:01the
- 2:02time
- 2:02that
- 2:02John
- 2:02Donahoe
- 2:03was
- 2:03at
- 2:03the
- 2:03helm.
- 2:04I
- 2:04think
- 2:04it
- 2:04was
- 2:05a
- 2:05lot
- 2:05of
- 2:05positive.
- 2:05I
- 2:05mean,
- 2:06you
- 2:06could
- 2:06argue
- 2:06that
- 2:06Nike
- 2:07was
- 2:07at
- 2:07the
- 2:07highest
- 2:08of
- 2:08highs
- 2:08during
- 2:08that
- 2:09time
- 2:09period.
- 2:10Certainly
- 2:10resale
- 2:11prices
- 2:11would
- 2:11have
- 2:11you
- 2:12thinking
- 2:12that.
- 2:12But
- 2:13I
- 2:13ask
- 2:13you
- 2:13now,
- 2:14is
- 2:14what
- 2:15is
- 2:15Nike
- 2:15hoping
- 2:16to
- 2:16accomplish
- 2:16now
- 2:17that
- 2:17they're
- 2:17moving
- 2:17on
- 2:17to
- 2:17their
- 2:18CEO?
- 2:19Well,
- 2:19the
- 2:19first
- 2:19thing
- 2:19I
- 2:20think
- 2:20you've
- 2:20noticed
- 2:20is
- 2:21that
- 2:21they're
- 2:21looking
- 2:21to
- 2:21change
- 2:22the
- 2:22perception
- 2:23that
- 2:23they
- 2:23are
- 2:23an
- 2:23uncool
- 2:24brand.
- 2:24John
- 2:25Donahoe,
- 2:25for
- 2:25everything
- 2:26that
- 2:26he
- 2:26brought
- 2:26to
- 2:27the
- 2:27table
- 2:27was
- 2:28a
- 2:28CEO.
- 2:29And
- 2:29I
- 2:29mean
- 2:29that
- 2:29in,
- 2:30he
- 2:30wore
- 2:30suits,
- 2:31he
- 2:31looked
- 2:31professional.
- 2:32He
- 2:33didn't
- 2:33seem
- 2:33like
- 2:33he
- 2:34fit
- 2:34into
- 2:34the
- 2:35culture.
- 2:35Now,
- 2:35I
- 2:35also
- 2:36said
- 2:36that
- 2:36Nike
- 2:36is
- 2:37not
- 2:37just
- 2:37about
- 2:37sneaker
- 2:38culture,
- 2:38but
- 2:39you
- 2:39get
- 2:39the
- 2:39idea.
- 2:40He
- 2:40didn't
- 2:40seem
- 2:40like
- 2:41one
- 2:41of
- 2:41us,
- 2:41if
- 2:42that
- 2:42makes
- 2:42sense.
- 2:43And
- 2:43so
- 2:43they
- 2:43switch
- 2:44over
- 2:44to
- 2:44a
- 2:44guy
- 2:44in
- 2:44Elliot
- 2:45Hill
- 2:45who
- 2:46has
- 2:46a
- 2:46ton
- 2:46of
- 2:47pedigree
- 2:47with
- 2:47the
- 2:48company.
- 2:4830
- 2:49plus
- 2:49years
- 2:49with
- 2:49Nike,
- 2:50starting
- 2:50out
- 2:50as
- 2:51an
- 2:51intern,
- 2:52holding
- 2:52some
- 2:52major
- 2:53positions.
- 2:54And
- 2:54I
- 2:54think
- 2:54the
- 2:54perception
- 2:55that
- 2:55they're
- 2:55trying
- 2:55to
- 2:56give
- 2:56us,
- 2:56the
- 2:56consumer,
- 2:57is
- 2:58that
- 2:58this
- 2:58guy
- 2:59eats,
- 2:59sleeps
- 3:00and
- 3:00breathes
- 3:01Nike.
- 3:01This
- 3:02guy
- 3:02is
- 3:02one
- 3:03of
- 3:03us.
- 3:03He
- 3:03thinks
- 3:03about
- 3:04the
- 3:04brand.
- 3:04He
- 3:04thinks
- 3:05about
- 3:05how
- 3:05the
- 3:05brand
- 3:06can
- 3:06be
- 3:06better
- 3:06for
- 3:06its
- 3:07consumer.
- 3:08And
- 3:08I
- 3:08think
- 3:08that's
- 3:08a
- 3:08really
- 3:09important
- 3:09distinction
- 3:09to
- 3:10make
- 3:10because
- 3:11I
- 3:11believe
- 3:11that
- 3:11it's
- 3:12the,
- 3:12the
- 3:12future
- 3:12of
- 3:12what
- 3:13Nike
- 3:13is
- 3:13trying
- 3:13to
- 3:14do.
- 3:14Fast
- 3:15forward
- 3:15to
- 3:15this
- 3:16week.
- 3:16I
- 3:16think
- 3:16you're
- 3:16seeing
- 3:17some
- 3:17growing
- 3:17signs
- 3:18that
- 3:18Nike
- 3:18is
- 3:19on
- 3:19the
- 3:19path
- 3:19to
- 3:20treading
- 3:20a
- 3:20new
- 3:21path
- 3:21for
- 3:21themselves.
- 3:22First
- 3:22thing,
- 3:23the
- 3:23return
- 3:23of
- 3:24Frank
- 3:24Cook
- 3:25to
- 3:25the
- 3:25design
- 3:26world
- 3:26with
- 3:26Nike.
- 3:27If
- 3:27you
- 3:27don't
- 3:28know
- 3:28anything
- 3:28about
- 3:29Frank
- 3:29Cook,
- 3:29I
- 3:29think
- 3:30you
- 3:30need
- 3:30to
- 3:30look
- 3:30him
- 3:30up.
- 3:31Frank
- 3:31Cook
- 3:32is
- 3:32helpful
- 3:33or
- 3:33responsible
- 3:34in
- 3:34so
- 3:34many
- 3:35of
- 3:35some
- 3:35of
- 3:35the
- 3:35greatest
- 3:36colorways
- 3:37and
- 3:37greatest
- 3:38releases
- 3:38that
- 3:38we've
- 3:39seen
- 3:39over
- 3:39the
- 3:39last
- 3:40decade
- 3:40or
- 3:40so.
- 3:41The
- 3:41shattered
- 3:42backboards.
- 3:42While
- 3:42he
- 3:42maybe
- 3:43didn't
- 3:43have
- 3:43a
- 3:43direct
- 3:44impact
- 3:44on
- 3:44that,
- 3:45he
- 3:45was
- 3:45a
- 3:45part
- 3:45of
- 3:45that.
- 3:46The
- 3:46Air
- 3:46Jordan
- 3:47four.
- 3:47Raptors
- 3:47in
- 3:482018.
- 3:49The
- 3:49Justin
- 3:49Timberlake
- 3:50man
- 3:50of
- 3:50the
- 3:50Woods
- 3:51Jordan
- 3:51three.
- 3:52The
- 3:52soulfly
- 3:53Jordan
- 3:53one
- 3:54in
- 3:542018.
- 3:55The
- 3:55Air
- 3:56Jordan
- 3:56four.
- 3:56Cactus
- 3:57Jack
- 3:57in
- 3:572018,
- 3:58the
- 3:58Houston
- 3:59Oilers
- 3:59colorway.
- 4:00That's
- 4:00a
- 4:00now
- 4:00iconic
- 4:01shoe.
- 4:01The
- 4:02list
- 4:02goes
- 4:02on
- 4:03and
- 4:03on.
- 4:04And
- 4:04I
- 4:04think
- 4:04what
- 4:04Nike
- 4:05is
- 4:05trying
- 4:05to
- 4:05accomplish
- 4:06by
- 4:06doing
- 4:06this
- 4:07is
- 4:07trying
- 4:07to
- 4:08add
- 4:08some
- 4:08familiarity
- 4:09to
- 4:09the
- 4:09brand
- 4:10and
- 4:10familiarity
- 4:11not
- 4:11just
- 4:12for
- 4:12their
- 4:12athletic
- 4:13apparel
- 4:13seekers.
- 4:14I'm
- 4:14talking
- 4:15about
- 4:15familiarity
- 4:15for
- 4:16people
- 4:16who
- 4:16are
- 4:16really
- 4:17embedded
- 4:17and
- 4:17deep
- 4:18into
- 4:18the
- 4:18culture.
- 4:19One
- 4:19of
- 4:19the
- 4:20things
- 4:20that
- 4:20today's
- 4:20world
- 4:21provides
- 4:21us
- 4:22that
- 4:22I
- 4:22think
- 4:22wouldn't
- 4:22have
- 4:23existed
- 4:2320
- 4:24years
- 4:24ago
- 4:25is
- 4:25now.
- 4:25A
- 4:25lot
- 4:25of
- 4:26people
- 4:26may
- 4:26be
- 4:26learning
- 4:27who
- 4:27Frank
- 4:27Cook
- 4:27is
- 4:28for
- 4:28the
- 4:28very
- 4:29first
- 4:29time.
- 4:30There's
- 4:30nothing
- 4:30wrong
- 4:31with
- 4:31that,
- 4:31by
- 4:31the
- 4:31way.
- 4:32You
- 4:32know
- 4:32that
- 4:33one
- 4:33of
- 4:33the
- 4:33reasons
- 4:33that
- 4:33I
- 4:34started
- 4:34this
- 4:34podcast,
- 4:35and
- 4:35one
- 4:35of
- 4:35the
- 4:35things
- 4:35that
- 4:36I
- 4:36try
- 4:36to
- 4:36accomplish
- 4:37on
- 4:37this
- 4:37pod
- 4:38is
- 4:38that
- 4:39I
- 4:39give
- 4:39you
- 4:39a
- 4:39different
- 4:40perspective
- 4:41or
- 4:41I
- 4:41cause
- 4:42you
- 4:42to
- 4:42learn
- 4:42something
- 4:43or
- 4:44remember
- 4:44something
- 4:44that
- 4:45maybe
- 4:45you
- 4:45hadn't
- 4:45remembered
- 4:46or
- 4:46maybe
- 4:47never
- 4:47knew.
- 4:48And
- 4:48for
- 4:48many,
- 4:49many
- 4:49people,
- 4:49I
- 4:50think
- 4:50Frank
- 4:50Cook's
- 4:51impact
- 4:51is
- 4:52not
- 4:52something
- 4:52they're
- 4:53deeply
- 4:53familiar
- 4:54with.
- 4:55It's
- 4:55something
- 4:55that
- 4:55you
- 4:55should
- 4:56be
- 4:56deeply
- 4:56familiar
- 4:57with
- 4:57because
- 4:57I
- 4:57think
- 4:58Nike
- 4:58is
- 4:58telling
- 4:59us
- 4:59specifically
- 5:00sneaker
- 5:00culture
- 5:01with
- 5:01this
- 5:01move.
- 5:02We
- 5:02hear
- 5:03you.
- 5:03We
- 5:03want
- 5:04to
- 5:04do
- 5:04something
- 5:04different
- 5:05for
- 5:05you.
- 5:05We
- 5:05want
- 5:06to
- 5:06give
- 5:06you
- 5:06what
- 5:07you
- 5:07have
- 5:07been
- 5:07used
- 5:08to
- 5:08up
- 5:08until
- 5:09this
- 5:09point.
- 5:09That's
- 5:10an
- 5:10important
- 5:10distinction
- 5:11to
- 5:11make
- 5:11because
- 5:12I
- 5:12believe
- 5:12that
- 5:13Nike
- 5:13is
- 5:13doing
- 5:14the
- 5:14right
- 5:14thing
- 5:15by
- 5:15trying
- 5:15to
- 5:15give
- 5:15us
- 5:16something
- 5:16that
- 5:16feels
- 5:17familiar.
- 5:17Now,
- 5:18it
- 5:18doesn't
- 5:18necessarily
- 5:19mean
- 5:19that
- 5:19the
- 5:19execution
- 5:20of
- 5:20that
- 5:20is
- 5:21going
- 5:21to
- 5:21work
- 5:22out,
- 5:22but
- 5:22I
- 5:23think
- 5:23this,
- 5:23coupled
- 5:24with
- 5:24the
- 5:24new
- 5:25CEO
- 5:25and
- 5:26the
- 5:26look
- 5:26and
- 5:26the
- 5:27feel
- 5:27that
- 5:27Nike
- 5:28wants
- 5:28the
- 5:28new
- 5:28CEO
- 5:29to
- 5:29give
- 5:30us,
- 5:30this
- 5:30is
- 5:31an
- 5:31important
- 5:31step
- 5:32forward.
- 5:32The
- 5:33other
- 5:33thing
- 5:33that
- 5:33the
- 5:34new
- 5:34CEO
- 5:34has
- 5:34already
- 5:35done
- 5:35is
- 5:36announce
- 5:36that
- 5:37they're
- 5:37going
- 5:37to
- 5:37be
- 5:37pulling
- 5:38back
- 5:38production
- 5:38on
- 5:39general
- 5:39releases.
- 5:40You'd
- 5:40think
- 5:40to
- 5:41yourself,
- 5:41who
- 5:41cares?
- 5:42Why
- 5:42do
- 5:42I
- 5:42care
- 5:42if
- 5:43general
- 5:43releases
- 5:44aren't
- 5:44as
- 5:44available?
- 5:45But
- 5:45the
- 5:45entire
- 5:46point
- 5:46of
- 5:46this
- 5:47is
- 5:47to
- 5:47drive
- 5:47up
- 5:48the
- 5:48idea
- 5:48of
- 5:48scarcity.
- 5:49And
- 5:50what
- 5:50does
- 5:50that
- 5:50do?
- 5:50It
- 5:51drives
- 5:51up
- 5:51the
- 5:51idea
- 5:52of
- 5:52hype.
- 5:53And
- 5:53what
- 5:53does
- 5:53that
- 5:53do?
- 5:54It
- 5:54drives
- 5:54up
- 5:55resale
- 5:55prices.
- 5:56Everybody
- 5:56should
- 5:57be
- 5:57having
- 5:57PTSD
- 5:58and
- 5:58triggering
- 5:59moments
- 5:59right
- 5:59now
- 6:00to
- 6:002020
- 6:01through
- 6:012021,
- 6:02maybe
- 6:02even
- 6:022022.
- 6:04This
- 6:04is
- 6:04what
- 6:05happened.
- 6:05One
- 6:06thing
- 6:06that
- 6:06Nike
- 6:06did
- 6:07is
- 6:07made
- 6:08things
- 6:08available
- 6:09and
- 6:09that
- 6:10availability
- 6:10caused
- 6:11hype
- 6:11to
- 6:11come
- 6:11down.
- 6:12And
- 6:12they're
- 6:13looking
- 6:13at
- 6:13a
- 6:13lot
- 6:14of
- 6:14product
- 6:14that
- 6:14is
- 6:15sitting
- 6:15on
- 6:15shelves,
- 6:16maybe
- 6:16virtual
- 6:16shelves,
- 6:17but
- 6:17a
- 6:17lot
- 6:17of
- 6:17product
- 6:17that
- 6:18is
- 6:18sitting
- 6:18somewhere
- 6:19that
- 6:19they're
- 6:20having
- 6:20to
- 6:20send
- 6:20to
- 6:20the
- 6:20Nike
- 6:21outlet.
- 6:21That's
- 6:22not
- 6:22what
- 6:22Nike
- 6:23wants.
- 6:23That
- 6:23doesn't
- 6:24give
- 6:24off
- 6:24the
- 6:24idea
- 6:25of
- 6:25cool.
- 6:25So
- 6:26now
- 6:26you've
- 6:26got
- 6:26Frank
- 6:27Cook
- 6:27back
- 6:27in
- 6:27the
- 6:27mix,
- 6:28who
- 6:28could
- 6:28very
- 6:28possibly
- 6:29give
- 6:29us
- 6:29some
- 6:29of
- 6:30those
- 6:30iconic
- 6:30colorways
- 6:31and
- 6:31iconic
- 6:32designs
- 6:33that
- 6:33we're
- 6:33used
- 6:33to
- 6:34seeing.
- 6:34And
- 6:35now
- 6:35they're
- 6:35going
- 6:35to
- 6:35produce
- 6:36less
- 6:36of
- 6:36them
- 6:37and
- 6:37they're
- 6:37going
- 6:37to
- 6:37produce
- 6:38less
- 6:38of
- 6:38the
- 6:38regular
- 6:39general
- 6:39releases.
- 6:40And
- 6:40that
- 6:40means
- 6:40people
- 6:40are
- 6:41going
- 6:41to
- 6:41get
- 6:41more
- 6:41hyped,
- 6:42people
- 6:42are
- 6:43going
- 6:43to
- 6:43want
- 6:43more.
- 6:44The
- 6:44only
- 6:44thing
- 6:45that
- 6:45I'm
- 6:45not
- 6:45sure
- 6:46about
- 6:46is
- 6:46whether
- 6:47the
- 6:47prices
- 6:47are
- 6:47going
- 6:47to
- 6:48come
- 6:48down.
- 6:48I
- 6:48don't
- 6:48think
- 6:48that
- 6:48they
- 6:49are.
- 6:49But
- 6:49the
- 6:50prices
- 6:50could
- 6:50be
- 6:50the
- 6:51only
- 6:51thing
- 6:51that
- 6:51holds
- 6:52this
- 6:52combination
- 6:52back
- 6:53from
- 6:53Nike
- 6:54really
- 6:54making
- 6:55an
- 6:55impact.
- 6:55Now
- 6:56move
- 6:56to
- 6:56another
- 6:57piece
- 6:57of
- 6:57news
- 6:57that
- 6:57has
- 6:58been
- 6:58confirmed.
- 6:58And
- 6:58this
- 6:59was
- 6:59confirmed
- 6:59only
- 7:00like
- 7:00a
- 7:00day
- 7:00or
- 7:00two
- 7:01before
- 7:01I
- 7:01recorded
- 7:02this
- 7:02episode,
- 7:03the
- 7:03return
- 7:03of
- 7:04Tom
- 7:04Sachs.
- 7:05If
- 7:05you
- 7:05recall,
- 7:06I
- 7:06think
- 7:06it
- 7:06was
- 7:07in
- 7:07April
- 7:07of
- 7:0723.
- 7:08Somewhere
- 7:08in
- 7:08that
- 7:09time
- 7:09period,
- 7:10the
- 7:10news
- 7:10came
- 7:11out
- 7:11that
- 7:11Tom
- 7:11Sachs
- 7:12was,
- 7:12I
- 7:13guess
- 7:13you
- 7:13could
- 7:13use
- 7:13the
- 7:13word,
- 7:14problematic
- 7:14within
- 7:15his
- 7:15artwork
- 7:16space.
- 7:16A
- 7:17lot
- 7:17of
- 7:17accusations
- 7:18came
- 7:18out
- 7:18about
- 7:18certain
- 7:19things.
- 7:19One
- 7:20of
- 7:20the
- 7:20most
- 7:20damning
- 7:21ones
- 7:21I
- 7:21believe
- 7:22was
- 7:22being
- 7:22naked
- 7:23on
- 7:23Zoom
- 7:23calls
- 7:24not
- 7:24really
- 7:25the
- 7:25greatest
- 7:25protocol
- 7:26from
- 7:26a
- 7:26professional
- 7:27standpoint,
- 7:27but
- 7:28I
- 7:28think
- 7:28people
- 7:28have
- 7:28understood
- 7:29that
- 7:29Tom
- 7:30Sachs
- 7:30is
- 7:31what
- 7:31I
- 7:31would
- 7:31consider
- 7:32a
- 7:32delicate
- 7:33genius.
- 7:33He's
- 7:34an
- 7:34artist.
- 7:35He's
- 7:35not
- 7:35somebody,
- 7:35in
- 7:36my
- 7:36opinion.
- 7:36If
- 7:37you
- 7:37think
- 7:37about
- 7:37high
- 7:37minded
- 7:38creatives,
- 7:39do
- 7:39they
- 7:39really
- 7:40lack
- 7:40the
- 7:40social
- 7:41interaction,
- 7:42the
- 7:42social
- 7:42skills
- 7:43that
- 7:43a
- 7:43lot
- 7:43of
- 7:43the
- 7:43regular
- 7:44people
- 7:44like
- 7:44us
- 7:44might
- 7:45have?
- 7:45I
- 7:46would
- 7:46venture
- 7:46a
- 7:46guess
- 7:47that
- 7:47nobody
- 7:47listening
- 7:48to
- 7:48this
- 7:48podcast
- 7:48would
- 7:49ever
- 7:49get
- 7:49on
- 7:50a
- 7:50YouTube
- 7:50channel
- 7:51or
- 7:51a
- 7:51Zoom
- 7:51call
- 7:51or
- 7:52anything
- 7:52naked.
- 7:53We
- 7:53just
- 7:54wouldn't.
- 7:54There's
- 7:54also
- 7:55a
- 7:55ton
- 7:55of
- 7:55other
- 7:55stuff
- 7:55that
- 7:56came
- 7:56out.
- 7:56The
- 7:57bottom
- 7:57line
- 7:57with
- 7:57Tom
- 7:58Sachs
- 7:58comes
- 7:58down
- 7:59to
- 7:59Nike
- 7:59is
- 7:59making
- 8:00this
- 8:00move
- 8:01to
- 8:01make
- 8:01money.
- 8:02Many
- 8:02people,
- 8:03rightfully
- 8:03so,
- 8:04are
- 8:04going
- 8:04into
- 8:05the
- 8:05morality
- 8:05of
- 8:06the
- 8:06situation.
- 8:07Should
- 8:07they
- 8:08bring
- 8:08Tom
- 8:08Sachs
- 8:09back?
- 8:09Is
- 8:09he
- 8:09too
- 8:10problematic?
- 8:10The
- 8:11thing
- 8:11is,
- 8:11is
- 8:11I
- 8:12am
- 8:12not
- 8:12here
- 8:12to
- 8:13help
- 8:13you
- 8:13make
- 8:14that
- 8:14moral
- 8:14dilemma
- 8:15any
- 8:15easier.
- 8:16What
- 8:16it
- 8:16comes
- 8:17down
- 8:17to
- 8:17for
- 8:18many
- 8:18people
- 8:18is,
- 8:19can
- 8:19you
- 8:19separate
- 8:19the
- 8:20art
- 8:20from
- 8:20the
- 8:20artist?
- 8:21Full
- 8:21transparency.
- 8:22I
- 8:22don't
- 8:22really
- 8:23know
- 8:23a
- 8:23whole
- 8:23lot
- 8:24about
- 8:24Tom
- 8:24Sachs.
- 8:25When
- 8:25I
- 8:25hear
- 8:26about
- 8:26what
- 8:27it
- 8:27was
- 8:27alleged
- 8:27that
- 8:27he
- 8:28did,
- 8:28I
- 8:28thought,
- 8:28that's
- 8:29just
- 8:29not
- 8:29a
- 8:29boss
- 8:29that
- 8:30I
- 8:30want
- 8:30to
- 8:30work
- 8:30for.
- 8:31Is
- 8:31that
- 8:31somebody
- 8:32who
- 8:32can
- 8:32design
- 8:32sneakers
- 8:33and
- 8:33sell
- 8:33sneakers?
- 8:34You're
- 8:34damn
- 8:34right
- 8:35he
- 8:35can.
- 8:35And
- 8:36he's
- 8:36already
- 8:36proven
- 8:36that.
- 8:37The
- 8:37Mars
- 8:37yard,
- 8:38the
- 8:38Mars
- 8:38yard
- 8:392.0,
- 8:40probably
- 8:41two
- 8:41of
- 8:41the
- 8:41most
- 8:42iconic
- 8:42sneaker
- 8:43releases
- 8:43almost
- 8:43of
- 8:43all
- 8:44time.
- 8:44Some
- 8:45people
- 8:45would
- 8:45say
- 8:45that
- 8:46they
- 8:46haven't
- 8:46really
- 8:46aged
- 8:47well,
- 8:47but
- 8:47you
- 8:47want
- 8:47to
- 8:48talk
- 8:48about
- 8:48something
- 8:48that
- 8:49tells
- 8:49a
- 8:49story.
- 8:50You
- 8:50want
- 8:50to
- 8:50talk
- 8:50about
- 8:50something
- 8:51that
- 8:51has
- 8:51intention
- 8:51behind
- 8:52it?
- 8:52That
- 8:53certainly
- 8:53does.
- 8:54The
- 8:54last
- 8:54time
- 8:55that
- 8:55we
- 8:55saw
- 8:55Tom
- 8:56Sachs
- 8:56was
- 8:56the
- 8:56general
- 8:57purpose
- 8:57shoe.
- 8:58And
- 8:58that
- 8:58shoe
- 8:59looked
- 8:59completely
- 9:00plain,
- 9:00but
- 9:01it
- 9:01was
- 9:01something
- 9:02so
- 9:02new,
- 9:03because
- 9:03the
- 9:03idea,
- 9:04the
- 9:04story
- 9:04was
- 9:05that
- 9:05it
- 9:05was
- 9:05anti
- 9:06hype,
- 9:06that
- 9:07you
- 9:07would
- 9:07wear
- 9:07it,
- 9:08you
- 9:08would
- 9:08crease
- 9:08it,
- 9:08you'd
- 9:09take
- 9:09it
- 9:09out.
- 9:09It
- 9:09was
- 9:09something
- 9:10meant
- 9:10to
- 9:10be
- 9:10worn,
- 9:11which,
- 9:12as
- 9:12we
- 9:12all
- 9:12know,
- 9:12in
- 9:12sneaker
- 9:13culture,
- 9:13isn't
- 9:14exactly
- 9:14a
- 9:15mainstay
- 9:15within
- 9:15the
- 9:16culture.
- 9:16I'm
- 9:17learning
- 9:17now
- 9:17that
- 9:18more
- 9:18and
- 9:18more
- 9:18people
- 9:19wear
- 9:19their
- 9:19shoes.
- 9:19More
- 9:20and
- 9:20more
- 9:20people
- 9:20don't
- 9:21care
- 9:21about
- 9:21the
- 9:21creasing
- 9:21and
- 9:22all
- 9:22that
- 9:22stuff.
- 9:23But
- 9:23the
- 9:23whole
- 9:23point
- 9:23of
- 9:23that
- 9:24release
- 9:24was
- 9:24to
- 9:25be
- 9:25anti
- 9:25hype
- 9:25beast.
- 9:26And
- 9:26so
- 9:27now
- 9:27you
- 9:27bring
- 9:27back
- 9:27Tom
- 9:28Sachs,
- 9:28but
- 9:28that's
- 9:28not
- 9:28enough.
- 9:29Now
- 9:29you
- 9:29announce
- 9:30it's
- 9:30going
- 9:30to
- 9:30be
- 9:30a
- 9:30Mard
- 9:313.0.
- 9:32And
- 9:33that
- 9:33has
- 9:33had
- 9:34a
- 9:34lot
- 9:34of
- 9:34hype
- 9:35percolating
- 9:35out
- 9:36on
- 9:36social
- 9:36media,
- 9:36and
- 9:37rightfully
- 9:37so.
- 9:38A
- 9:38lot
- 9:38of
- 9:38people
- 9:38are
- 9:39asking
- 9:39the
- 9:39question
- 9:40as
- 9:40to
- 9:41whether
- 9:41this
- 9:41is
- 9:41something
- 9:42that
- 9:42they've
- 9:42had
- 9:42in
- 9:42the
- 9:42works.
- 9:43And
- 9:43I
- 9:43would
- 9:43venture
- 9:44a
- 9:44guess,
- 9:44I'm
- 9:45sure
- 9:45somebody
- 9:45like
- 9:45sock
- 9:46Jake
- 9:46probably
- 9:46knows
- 9:46more,
- 9:47but
- 9:47I
- 9:47would
- 9:48say
- 9:48that
- 9:48most
- 9:49likely
- 9:49the
- 9:49Marsyard
- 9:503.0
- 9:51was
- 9:51something
- 9:51that
- 9:51had
- 9:52been
- 9:52in
- 9:52the
- 9:52works
- 9:53prior
- 9:53to
- 9:53all
- 9:53of
- 9:53the
- 9:54extracurriculars
- 9:55that
- 9:55Tom
- 9:55Sachs
- 9:56had
- 9:56on
- 9:56his
- 9:57plate.
- 9:57Because
- 9:58obviously
- 9:58these
- 9:59things
- 9:59take
- 9:59time
- 9:59to
- 9:59manufacture,
- 10:00they
- 10:01take
- 10:01time
- 10:01to
- 10:02design.
- 10:03Somebody
- 10:03like
- 10:03him,
- 10:04I
- 10:04would
- 10:04assume,
- 10:04doesn't
- 10:05just
- 10:05spit
- 10:05out
- 10:05a
- 10:05sneaker
- 10:06design
- 10:06and
- 10:07call
- 10:07it
- 10:07a
- 10:07day.
- 10:08I
- 10:08would
- 10:08assume
- 10:08that
- 10:08he
- 10:09has
- 10:09a
- 10:09process.
- 10:09I
- 10:10would
- 10:10assume
- 10:10that
- 10:10it's
- 10:11a
- 10:11very
- 10:11specific
- 10:12process
- 10:13and
- 10:13that
- 10:13he's
- 10:13very
- 10:14particular
- 10:14about
- 10:15how
- 10:15he
- 10:15goes
- 10:16about
- 10:16his
- 10:16work.
- 10:17But
- 10:17when
- 10:17all
- 10:17that
- 10:17happened,
- 10:18Nike
- 10:18had
- 10:19to
- 10:19pull
- 10:19back.
- 10:19Because
- 10:20in
- 10:20today's
- 10:20society,
- 10:21when
- 10:21something
- 10:21problematic
- 10:22like
- 10:22that
- 10:22happens,
- 10:23you
- 10:23do
- 10:24need
- 10:24to
- 10:24pull
- 10:24back.
- 10:25I
- 10:25wouldn't
- 10:25say
- 10:25he
- 10:25was
- 10:25canceled
- 10:26per
- 10:26se
- 10:26because
- 10:27I'm
- 10:27not
- 10:27sure
- 10:27that
- 10:28he's
- 10:28somebody
- 10:28outside
- 10:29of
- 10:29that
- 10:29very
- 10:29exclusive
- 10:30art
- 10:30community
- 10:31that
- 10:32anybody
- 10:32really
- 10:32cares
- 10:32about,
- 10:33that
- 10:33anybody
- 10:33really
- 10:34has
- 10:34on
- 10:34their
- 10:34radar.
- 10:35Sneakerheads
- 10:36have
- 10:36him
- 10:36on
- 10:37their
- 10:37radar
- 10:37and
- 10:38now
- 10:38he's
- 10:38back
- 10:38on
- 10:38their
- 10:39radar.
- 10:39So
- 10:39the
- 10:39Marsyard
- 10:403.0
- 10:40will
- 10:40release.
- 10:41I
- 10:41think
- 10:42it
- 10:42will
- 10:42be
- 10:42hot.
- 10:42I
- 10:42think
- 10:42it
- 10:43will
- 10:43be
- 10:43hit.
- 10:44And
- 10:44based
- 10:44off
- 10:44of
- 10:44some
- 10:45things
- 10:45we've
- 10:45already
- 10:45talked
- 10:45about,
- 10:46my
- 10:46guess
- 10:46is
- 10:47that
- 10:47it's
- 10:47going
- 10:47to
- 10:47be
- 10:47limited.
- 10:48Nike
- 10:48again,
- 10:49trying
- 10:49to
- 10:49drive
- 10:50up
- 10:50hype,
- 10:50trying
- 10:51to
- 10:51drive
- 10:51the
- 10:52perception
- 10:52that
- 10:52they
- 10:52are
- 10:53cool.
- 10:53Now
- 10:54there's
- 10:54another
- 10:54thing
- 10:54I
- 10:54want
- 10:54to
- 10:54talk
- 10:55about.
- 10:55The
- 10:55last
- 10:55thing
- 10:56I
- 10:56want
- 10:56to
- 10:56talk
- 10:56about
- 10:56that
- 10:56is
- 10:57purely
- 10:57speculative
- 10:58at
- 10:58this
- 10:58point.
- 10:59However,
- 10:59there
- 10:59are
- 11:00things
- 11:00that
- 11:00are
- 11:00not
- 11:00speculative
- 11:01about
- 11:01the
- 11:02entirety
- 11:02of
- 11:02the
- 11:02situation.
- 11:03And
- 11:03I'm
- 11:03talking
- 11:04about
- 11:04James
- 11:04Whitner
- 11:05and
- 11:05the
- 11:05Whitner
- 11:05group.
- 11:06James
- 11:06Whitner
- 11:06and
- 11:07the
- 11:07Whitner
- 11:07group
- 11:07are
- 11:08obviously
- 11:09over
- 11:09a
- 11:09lot
- 11:10of
- 11:10some
- 11:10of
- 11:10the
- 11:10most
- 11:10famous
- 11:11boutiques
- 11:11in
- 11:11sneaker
- 11:12and
- 11:12street
- 11:12wear.
- 11:13And
- 11:13obviously
- 11:14the
- 11:14AMA
- 11:14manyer
- 11:15collaboration
- 11:16with
- 11:16Jordan
- 11:16Brand
- 11:17has
- 11:17been
- 11:17nothing
- 11:18short
- 11:18of
- 11:18a
- 11:18major
- 11:19success.
- 11:19The
- 11:20while
- 11:20you
- 11:20were
- 11:20sleeping
- 11:21campaign
- 11:21that
- 11:21just
- 11:22happened
- 11:22recently,
- 11:23they're
- 11:23starting
- 11:24to
- 11:24release
- 11:24those.
- 11:24I
- 11:25just
- 11:25copped
- 11:25the
- 11:25Jordan
- 11:26four.
- 11:26I
- 11:26was
- 11:26very
- 11:26excited
- 11:27about
- 11:27that.
- 11:27Ama
- 11:28Manir
- 11:28really
- 11:28is
- 11:29in
- 11:29a
- 11:29place
- 11:29where
- 11:29I
- 11:29feel
- 11:30like
- 11:30they
- 11:30can
- 11:30do
- 11:30no
- 11:30wrong.
- 11:31And
- 11:31I
- 11:31did
- 11:31an
- 11:31episode
- 11:32and
- 11:32a
- 11:32video
- 11:32on
- 11:32the
- 11:32fact
- 11:33that
- 11:33maybe
- 11:33they're
- 11:34Nike's
- 11:35new
- 11:35flagship
- 11:35collaborator.
- 11:36All
- 11:37this
- 11:37stuff
- 11:37that's
- 11:37happening
- 11:38with
- 11:38James
- 11:38Whitner,
- 11:39what
- 11:39we
- 11:39do
- 11:40know
- 11:40is
- 11:40that
- 11:40I
- 11:41think
- 11:41it
- 11:41was
- 11:41like
- 11:41$1.2
- 11:42billion
- 11:43that
- 11:43he
- 11:43had
- 11:44to
- 11:44give
- 11:44back.
- 11:44There
- 11:44was
- 11:44a
- 11:45federal
- 11:45investigation
- 11:46and
- 11:47a
- 11:47lot
- 11:47of
- 11:47it
- 11:47was
- 11:48around
- 11:48the
- 11:48idea
- 11:49of
- 11:49backdooring.
- 11:50I
- 11:50would
- 11:50venture
- 11:51a
- 11:51guess
- 11:51that
- 11:51most
- 11:52people
- 11:52when
- 11:52they
- 11:52heard
- 11:52about
- 11:53this,
- 11:53didn't
- 11:54understand
- 11:54the
- 11:54nuances
- 11:55of
- 11:55it,
- 11:55didn't
- 11:55understand
- 11:56the
- 11:56money
- 11:56laundering
- 11:57part
- 11:57of
- 11:57it.
- 11:58I
- 11:58think
- 11:58what
- 11:58many
- 11:59people
- 11:59in
- 11:59the
- 11:59culture
- 12:00heard
- 12:00was
- 12:00the
- 12:00b
- 12:01word.
- 12:01The
- 12:01term
- 12:02backdooring.
- 12:03Backdooring
- 12:04has
- 12:04a
- 12:04negative
- 12:04connotation
- 12:05within
- 12:05the
- 12:06culture.
- 12:06And
- 12:07what
- 12:07is
- 12:07backdooring
- 12:08for
- 12:08those
- 12:08who
- 12:08don't
- 12:08know,
- 12:09it's,
- 12:09I
- 12:09have
- 12:09a
- 12:10shoe,
- 12:10I
- 12:10have
- 12:10a
- 12:10ton
- 12:11of
- 12:11them,
- 12:11and
- 12:11I'm
- 12:12going
- 12:12to
- 12:12give
- 12:12them
- 12:12to
- 12:12people
- 12:13I
- 12:13have
- 12:13a
- 12:13relationship
- 12:14with
- 12:14through
- 12:14the
- 12:15back
- 12:15door,
- 12:15essentially.
- 12:16And
- 12:16before
- 12:17all
- 12:17of
- 12:17these
- 12:17shoes
- 12:18actually
- 12:18release,
- 12:19it's
- 12:19something
- 12:19that
- 12:20I
- 12:20have
- 12:20to
- 12:20imagine
- 12:20has
- 12:21been
- 12:21happening
- 12:21within
- 12:22the
- 12:22culture
- 12:22forever.
- 12:23It's
- 12:23just
- 12:24something
- 12:24that
- 12:24happens.
- 12:25It's
- 12:25like
- 12:25somebody
- 12:25cutting
- 12:26in
- 12:26line.
- 12:26How
- 12:26are
- 12:27you
- 12:27going
- 12:27to
- 12:27stop
- 12:27them
- 12:27at
- 12:28a
- 12:28release
- 12:28if
- 12:28they
- 12:28cut
- 12:28in
- 12:29line?
- 12:29Who's
- 12:29going
- 12:29to
- 12:29tell
- 12:29them?
- 12:30A
- 12:30lot
- 12:30of
- 12:30times
- 12:31that
- 12:31could
- 12:31cause
- 12:31a
- 12:31fight.
- 12:32Backdooring
- 12:32has
- 12:33happened.
- 12:33It
- 12:33will
- 12:33continue
- 12:33to
- 12:34happen
- 12:34as
- 12:34long
- 12:34as
- 12:35sneakers
- 12:35are
- 12:35a
- 12:35hot
- 12:36commodity.
- 12:36And
- 12:37James
- 12:37Whitner
- 12:37now,
- 12:38in
- 12:38my
- 12:38opinion,
- 12:38is
- 12:39almost
- 12:39like
- 12:39the
- 12:39poster
- 12:40child
- 12:40for
- 12:40backdooring.
- 12:41And
- 12:41the
- 12:42speculation
- 12:42now
- 12:43is
- 12:43that
- 12:43Adidas
- 12:45and
- 12:45James
- 12:45Whitner
- 12:46and
- 12:46the
- 12:46Whitner
- 12:46group
- 12:47are
- 12:47going
- 12:47to
- 12:47be
- 12:48collaborating
- 12:48on
- 12:49what
- 12:49seems
- 12:49like
- 12:50not
- 12:50a
- 12:50one
- 12:50off
- 12:51collection,
- 12:51but
- 12:51a
- 12:51very
- 12:52large
- 12:52collection
- 12:53of
- 12:53Adidas
- 12:53now
- 12:54in
- 12:54full
- 12:54transparency.
- 12:55This
- 12:55has
- 12:55happened
- 12:55before,
- 12:56and
- 12:56the
- 12:57Whitner
- 12:57group
- 12:57has
- 12:57done
- 12:58a
- 12:58new
- 12:58balance
- 12:58collaboration,
- 12:59actually
- 12:59fairly
- 13:00recently.
- 13:01So
- 13:01this
- 13:01is
- 13:01not
- 13:01something
- 13:02that's
- 13:02like
- 13:02way
- 13:03out
- 13:03of
- 13:03left
- 13:03field.
- 13:04But
- 13:04it
- 13:04does
- 13:05venture
- 13:05a
- 13:06question
- 13:06of
- 13:07what
- 13:07does
- 13:07it
- 13:07mean
- 13:07for
- 13:08the
- 13:08partnership
- 13:08between
- 13:09Ama
- 13:09manir
- 13:10and
- 13:10Jordan
- 13:10brand.
- 13:11I
- 13:11would
- 13:11like
- 13:11to
- 13:11think
- 13:12that
- 13:12it's
- 13:12pretty
- 13:12solid
- 13:13because
- 13:13they
- 13:13just
- 13:13came
- 13:14out
- 13:14with
- 13:14this
- 13:14massive
- 13:15collection.
- 13:15But
- 13:16that
- 13:16collection
- 13:16was
- 13:17before
- 13:17the
- 13:17fallout.
- 13:18And
- 13:18now
- 13:18that
- 13:19we
- 13:19see
- 13:19the
- 13:19fallout,
- 13:20maybe
- 13:20Nike
- 13:21is
- 13:21thinking
- 13:21we
- 13:21need
- 13:22to
- 13:22distance
- 13:22ourselves
- 13:23from
- 13:23anything
- 13:24that
- 13:24gives
- 13:25us
- 13:25a
- 13:25negative
- 13:25connotation.
- 13:26Because
- 13:26remember,
- 13:27at
- 13:27the
- 13:27beginning
- 13:28of
- 13:28this
- 13:28episode,
- 13:28I
- 13:28talked
- 13:29about
- 13:29the
- 13:29fact
- 13:29that
- 13:29Nike,
- 13:30with
- 13:30that
- 13:30CEO
- 13:31change,
- 13:31is
- 13:32looking
- 13:32to
- 13:32make
- 13:33it
- 13:33seem
- 13:33as
- 13:33if
- 13:34they
- 13:34are
- 13:34hearing
- 13:35us,
- 13:35the
- 13:35consumer.
- 13:36And
- 13:36backdooring
- 13:37is
- 13:37not
- 13:38something
- 13:38that
- 13:38we
- 13:38in
- 13:38the
- 13:38sneaker
- 13:39community
- 13:39like
- 13:39to
- 13:39hear
- 13:40at
- 13:40all.
- 13:41No
- 13:41matter
- 13:41whether
- 13:41it's
- 13:42real,
- 13:42no
- 13:43matter
- 13:43whether
- 13:43it's
- 13:43something
- 13:43we
- 13:43have
- 13:44no
- 13:44control
- 13:44over.
- 13:45If
- 13:45there's
- 13:45a
- 13:45shoe
- 13:46that
- 13:46you
- 13:46want
- 13:46and
- 13:46you
- 13:47find
- 13:47out
- 13:47that
- 13:47these
- 13:48companies,
- 13:48you
- 13:49find
- 13:49out
- 13:49that
- 13:49these
- 13:49stores
- 13:50are
- 13:50giving
- 13:50them
- 13:51away
- 13:51before
- 13:51you've
- 13:52even
- 13:52had
- 13:52the
- 13:52chance
- 13:52to
- 13:53get
- 13:53them,
- 13:53that's
- 13:54going
- 13:54to
- 13:54leave
- 13:54a
- 13:54bad
- 13:55taste
- 13:55in
- 13:55sneakerheads
- 13:56mouths.
- 13:56It
- 13:56just
- 13:57is.
- 13:57And
- 13:57so
- 13:58I
- 13:58don't
- 13:58know
- 13:58if
- 13:58this
- 13:59is
- 13:59true
- 13:59or
- 13:59not.
- 14:00I
- 14:00don't
- 14:00know
- 14:00what
- 14:00this
- 14:01means
- 14:01for
- 14:01the
- 14:01overall
- 14:02partnership,
- 14:02but
- 14:03perhaps
- 14:04per,
- 14:04just
- 14:04perhaps,
- 14:05Nike
- 14:05is
- 14:05trying
- 14:05to
- 14:06say
- 14:06we
- 14:07want
- 14:07something
- 14:07different
- 14:08for
- 14:08us.
- 14:08And
- 14:09we
- 14:09need
- 14:09to
- 14:09get
- 14:09away
- 14:09from
- 14:10people
- 14:10like
- 14:10James
- 14:10Whitner
- 14:11for
- 14:11a
- 14:11while.
- 14:12And
- 14:12maybe
- 14:12that's
- 14:13what
- 14:13this
- 14:13entails.
- 14:14But
- 14:14I
- 14:14think
- 14:14that
- 14:15overall,
- 14:15when
- 14:15you
- 14:15look
- 14:16at
- 14:16these
- 14:16moves,
- 14:17Nike
- 14:17is
- 14:17trying
- 14:18to
- 14:18change
- 14:18their
- 14:19perception.
- 14:19They
- 14:19are
- 14:19trying
- 14:20to
- 14:20change
- 14:20their
- 14:20outward
- 14:21image.
- 14:22They
- 14:22want
- 14:22to
- 14:22seem
- 14:22cool
- 14:23again.
- 14:23They
- 14:23want
- 14:23to
- 14:24seem
- 14:24hype
- 14:24again.
- 14:25And
- 14:25they're
- 14:25doing
- 14:25everything
- 14:26that
- 14:26they
- 14:26can
- 14:26so
- 14:26far,
- 14:27two
- 14:27weeks
- 14:28into
- 14:28this
- 14:28new
- 14:28regime
- 14:29to
- 14:29make
- 14:29us,
- 14:30the
- 14:30sneaker
- 14:30community,
- 14:31feel
- 14:31like
- 14:32they
- 14:32are
- 14:32going
- 14:32to
- 14:32do
- 14:32something
- 14:33for
- 14:33us
- 14:33that
- 14:34they
- 14:34haven't
- 14:34done
- 14:34in
- 14:35a
- 14:35while.
- 14:35And
- 14:36before
- 14:36we
- 14:36get
- 14:36to
- 14:36the
- 14:36end,
- 14:37let's
- 14:37get
- 14:37to
- 14:37our
- 14:37release
- 14:38of
- 14:38the
- 14:38week.
- 14:53Release
- 14:53of
- 14:54the
- 14:54week,
- 14:54where
- 14:54I
- 14:55like
- 14:55to
- 14:55highlight
- 14:55a
- 14:55shoe
- 14:55that
- 14:56catches
- 14:56my
- 14:56eye.
- 14:56It's
- 14:57not
- 14:57always
- 14:57hype.
- 14:58It's
- 14:58just
- 14:58something
- 14:58that
- 14:59I
- 14:59want
- 14:59you
- 14:59to
- 14:59know
- 14:59about.
- 15:00And
- 15:00this
- 15:00week,
- 15:00this
- 15:01shoe
- 15:01is
- 15:01a
- 15:01basketball
- 15:02shoe.
- 15:02It
- 15:03is
- 15:03the
- 15:03third
- 15:03iteration
- 15:04of
- 15:04the
- 15:04Jason
- 15:05Tatum
- 15:05Jordan
- 15:06brand
- 15:06shoe.
- 15:07It
- 15:07is
- 15:07the
- 15:07welcome
- 15:08to
- 15:08the
- 15:08garden
- 15:08colorway.
- 15:09I
- 15:09believe
- 15:09they're
- 15:09going
- 15:09to
- 15:10be
- 15:10doing
- 15:10a
- 15:10pack.
- 15:10There's
- 15:10going
- 15:11to
- 15:11be
- 15:11a
- 15:11Jordan
- 15:11one
- 15:11low
- 15:12and
- 15:12the
- 15:12Jordan
- 15:12Tatum
- 15:13three.
- 15:14The
- 15:14silhouette
- 15:14overall,
- 15:15the
- 15:15way
- 15:15that
- 15:15it
- 15:15looks,
- 15:16straight
- 15:17flames,
- 15:17in
- 15:17my
- 15:18opinion,
- 15:18it
- 15:18gives
- 15:18me
- 15:18nineties
- 15:19vibes.
- 15:19I
- 15:20do
- 15:20really
- 15:20like
- 15:21it.
- 15:21And
- 15:21to
- 15:21me,
- 15:22it
- 15:22kind
- 15:22of
- 15:22looks
- 15:22like
- 15:22something
- 15:23that
- 15:23you
- 15:23might
- 15:23actually
- 15:24be
- 15:24able
- 15:24to
- 15:24pull
- 15:24off
- 15:25casually,
- 15:25not
- 15:25just
- 15:26on
- 15:26the
- 15:26basketball
- 15:26court.
- 15:27It's
- 15:27going
- 15:27to
- 15:27run
- 15:28you
- 15:28$125.
- 15:29This
- 15:29particular
- 15:30colorway
- 15:30releases
- 15:31on
- 15:31October
- 15:3110,
- 15:32and
- 15:32I
- 15:32think
- 15:32it's
- 15:33fire
- 15:33something
- 15:33to
- 15:34look
- 15:34into
- 15:34if
- 15:34you
- 15:34don't
- 15:35have
- 15:35a
- 15:35tatum
- 15:35or
- 15:36if
- 15:36you're
- 15:36somebody
- 15:36who's
- 15:36not
- 15:37sure
- 15:37about
- 15:37tatums.
- 15:37I
- 15:38think
- 15:38this
- 15:38could
- 15:38be
- 15:38it.
- 15:39The
- 15:39first
- 15:39iteration
- 15:40of
- 15:40the
- 15:40Jason
- 15:40Tatum
- 15:41shoe
- 15:41I
- 15:41thought
- 15:41was
- 15:41great.
- 15:42The
- 15:42second
- 15:42was
- 15:42okay.
- 15:43The
- 15:43third
- 15:44one
- 15:44I
- 15:44really,
- 15:45really
- 15:45like.
- 15:45So
- 15:46if
- 15:46you
- 15:46want
- 15:46to
- 15:46tatum,
- 15:46you
- 15:47like
- 15:47this
- 15:47colorway
- 15:47or
- 15:48you're
- 15:48just
- 15:48interested
- 15:48in
- 15:48the
- 15:49Jordan
- 15:49one
- 15:49and
- 15:49this
- 15:50is
- 15:50your
- 15:50way
- 15:50to
- 15:50get
- 15:50it.
- 15:51October
- 15:5110,
- 15:51$125.
- 15:53That
- 15:53is
- 15:53your
- 15:53way
- 15:53to
- 15:54go.
- 15:54What
- 15:54do
- 15:54you
- 15:55think
- 15:55about
- 15:55all
- 15:55this
- 15:55news
- 15:56that
- 15:56Nike
- 15:56is
- 15:56making,
- 15:57and
- 15:57what
- 15:57do
- 15:57you
- 15:58think
- 15:58it
- 15:58means
- 15:58for
- 15:59the
- 15:59direction
- 15:59of
- 15:59the
- 16:00future
- 16:00for
- 16:00this
- 16:00company,
- 16:01at
- 16:01least
- 16:01in
- 16:01the
- 16:01short
- 16:02term?
- 16:02Let
- 16:03me
- 16:03know.
- 16:03Get
- 16:04in
- 16:04touch
- 16:04with
- 16:04me
- 16:04on
- 16:04Instagram
- 16:05at
- 16:05Firefootwearpod
- 16:06is
- 16:07the
- 16:07handle
- 16:07to
- 16:07do
- 16:07that,
- 16:08I'd
- 16:08love
- 16:08to
- 16:08add
- 16:09new
- 16:09people
- 16:09to
- 16:09the
- 16:09group
- 16:10chat.
- 16:10I've
- 16:10been
- 16:11meeting
- 16:11new
- 16:11people
- 16:11every
- 16:12day
- 16:12and
- 16:12it's
- 16:12been
- 16:12so
- 16:13much
- 16:13fun.
- 16:14I
- 16:14would
- 16:14love
- 16:14to
- 16:14hear
- 16:14your
- 16:15thoughts
- 16:15and
- 16:15opinions
- 16:15on
- 16:16this,
- 16:16but
- 16:16I'd
- 16:16also
- 16:16like
- 16:16to
- 16:17share
- 16:17sneaker
- 16:17stories.
- 16:18And
- 16:18do
- 16:18not
- 16:18forget,
- 16:19area
- 16:19code
- 16:20202-643-9170
- 16:23is
- 16:23the
- 16:23number
- 16:24for
- 16:24the
- 16:24fire
- 16:24footwear
- 16:25voicemail.
- 16:26I'd
- 16:26love
- 16:26again
- 16:26to
- 16:26hear
- 16:27your
- 16:27stories,
- 16:27play
- 16:28them,
- 16:28react
- 16:28to
- 16:28them
- 16:28on
- 16:29the
- 16:29show.
- 16:29It
- 16:29means
- 16:30a
- 16:30lot
- 16:30to
- 16:30get
- 16:30that
- 16:31connection
- 16:31and
- 16:31that's
- 16:31one
- 16:32really,
- 16:32really
- 16:32good
- 16:32way
- 16:33to
- 16:33do
- 16:33that.
- 16:33You
- 16:34can,
- 16:34of
- 16:34course,
- 16:34find
- 16:34me
- 16:35on
- 16:35TikTok
- 16:35if
- 16:36you
- 16:36want
- 16:36to
- 16:36watch
- 16:36videos.
- 16:37Fire
- 16:37footwear
- 16:37sneakers
- 16:38talk
- 16:38on
- 16:38YouTube.
- 16:39It's
- 16:39not
- 16:40a
- 16:40regurgitation
- 16:40of
- 16:41what
- 16:41happens
- 16:41here.
- 16:41I'm
- 16:42trying
- 16:42to
- 16:42do
- 16:42some
- 16:42new
- 16:43and
- 16:43different
- 16:43things
- 16:43on
- 16:44there.
- 16:44So
- 16:44if
- 16:44you
- 16:45go
- 16:45find
- 16:45me
- 16:45on
- 16:45YouTube,
- 16:46please
- 16:46make
- 16:46sure
- 16:46to
- 16:46hit
- 16:47follow.
- 16:47Please
- 16:48make
- 16:48sure
- 16:48to
- 16:48hit
- 16:48like
- 16:49and
- 16:49all
- 16:49that
- 16:49good
- 16:49stuff.
- 16:50We
- 16:50just
- 16:50passed
- 16:511400
- 16:52subscribers,
- 16:52so
- 16:52a
- 16:53big
- 16:53thank
- 16:53you
- 16:53to
- 16:53all
- 16:54of
- 16:54you.
- 16:54This
- 16:54has
- 16:55been
- 16:55such
- 16:55a
- 16:55fun
- 16:55journey
- 16:56and
- 16:56I
- 16:56can't
- 16:56wait
- 16:56to
- 16:56do
- 16:57more
- 16:57for
- 16:57you.
- 16:58I
- 16:58hope
- 16:58this
- 16:58finds
- 16:58everybody
- 16:59well,
- 16:59fam,
- 16:59I
- 16:59hope
- 17:00this
- 17:00finds
- 17:00everybody
- 17:00safe
- 17:01and
- 17:01I
- 17:01will
- 17:01talk
- 17:01to
- 17:02you
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