Latest / Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman / Alison Grey - The Mindful Medium
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- 0:04My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice. I've always been
- 0:11fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science, and the crossroads at which they
- 0:17meet. Join me now and we will explore these topics and so much more
- 0:22with fascinating guests, authors, and experts who will guide us to Destination Unlimited.
- 0:35Do you ever know or sense things before they happen? Are the burgeoning
- 0:41gifts of clairvoyance, Claire audience and Clare sentience gracing your life? How may
- 0:49you develop these gifts and use them to enhance your life and that of others?
- 0:54My guest this week on Destination Unlimited, Alison Gray, began receiving leaving
- 1:00signs and messages as a child and acknowledges how these first steps of her own
- 1:04journey led her to where she is today, a successful psychic medium, healer,
- 1:11spiritual teacher, and counselor. Her teaching weaves a fascinating and accessible alternative
- 1:17way of thinking, encouraging you mediums to deepen their own intuitive and psychic skills
- 1:23while helping them to find answers to life's most important questions. Her website is
- 1:30Alison graymedium dot com and she joins me this week to share her path and
- 1:36new book, The Mindful Medium, a Practical Guide to Spirituality. Please join
- 1:42me in welcoming to Destination Unlimited, Alison Gray. Welcome, Alison, Oh,
- 1:49hello, and thank you Victor for having me. Thank you so much
- 1:52for joining us. And as we shared before recording, you and I have
- 1:56very much had common experience as children. So although we're decades apart, it
- 2:01made me aware and made you aware of the nature of spirit. Please share
- 2:07with us your early path and the events that opened your understanding as of what
- 2:12has been deemed paranormal but for us was very very normal. Yes. Well,
- 2:17I think I was always a sensitive child. I've always been a child
- 2:23that had that empathy, and I could always feel things around me. I
- 2:29could feel people's energy. I didn't really understand what I mean by that,
- 2:35you know, when I was younger, but I always sort of had an
- 2:37understanding of whether people were nice, whether they were kind, whether I was
- 2:44going to like them or not. I think I spent a lot of time
- 2:46being quite quiet. My mum used to always say, you know, she's
- 2:49in one of her little moods today, She's just you know, observing and
- 2:53watching. And I think that was me picking up intuitively people's energy, So
- 3:00you know, that was my earliest kind of memories, but it wasn't until
- 3:04the age of when I was ten and my paternal grandfather, he was in
- 3:09the seventies and we were very very close. We used to see him every
- 3:14week, and he was a religious man, and although my family were religious,
- 3:20we didn't necessarily go to church every week, but it was more of
- 3:23a Christian upbringing that I was born into. And one night, imber Well,
- 3:30I remembered my being told that my grandfather had passed away, and for
- 3:34a ten year old, I didn't really understand what that meant. Because that
- 3:39scared me because I felt, well, if he's gone, has he gone
- 3:44forever? You know? I had all these big questions that nobody really answered
- 3:47for me. And then one night soon afterwards, i'd gone to bed and
- 3:52I had this dream that my grandfather came to me and we would go,
- 3:59like every Saturday, go and visit him in his house, and he'd be
- 4:01there, and I was very aware that I was asleep, but very also
- 4:04aware that my grandfather was standing there and I was saying, but you know,
- 4:10you're you're not supposed to be here, And I had this recurring dream
- 4:14years after years after year, and on one occasion, like a traditional family,
- 4:19my grandfather used to sit at the head of the table and we had
- 4:24gone to his house and we were all invited to sit around the dinner table,
- 4:28and I'd for some reason, sat at the head of the table and
- 4:32he sat through me, and I remember thinking, how does this work?
- 4:38How does this happen? Because I'm sitting here, You're sitting here, and
- 4:42in my head, in my kind of understanding, it was like, because
- 4:46we're blended, because we are now together and I'm here with you. And
- 4:50that took a long time for me to kind of get my head around.
- 4:55And because I came from a family that said we're more kind of Christian in
- 4:59their religion, I didn't know how to express this to my parents. They
- 5:04just thought I was a little bit strange. And often they used to do
- 5:10that when I was sleeping at night and I used to feel somebody at the
- 5:14bottom of my bed, or I used to feel our cat, who had
- 5:17also passed the spirit world, jump on my bed and snuggle up by my
- 5:21feet. I just didn't have any idea what was really going on, and
- 5:27every time I got a little bit scared at night, and I went up
- 5:30to my parents and they'd be like, they don't be silly, go back
- 5:32to sleep. There's nobody there. And that was my experience for a long
- 5:36time, really, right up until my teenage years. And did you ever
- 5:41share these? I know you said you were reluctant to do that. Did
- 5:44you ever share these with anyone when you were young? No, I didn't
- 5:46know who to talk to, so I had to try and figure it out
- 5:50myself and ask my grandfather in these dreams, you know, what was going
- 5:55on? Really? And then I suppose again, I was always interested in
- 6:01mythical thing. I loved fairies, elves, pixes, which is wizards.
- 6:10You know, give me you need blighten, give me any book that contained
- 6:14magical things, and I would just find a tree. We had a lovely
- 6:16tree in our garden. I know, used to climb up there and I
- 6:21just used to read my books and be like transported elsewhere to these different realms.
- 6:27So I always had that in a belief that there was something there.
- 6:30But said, I was always deemed as a you know, head in the
- 6:34clouds and a little bit odd, a little bit strange. As I shared
- 6:39with you, we had commonaltive experience. I also, but I would tell
- 6:42people about it, and they told me I had an overactive imagination. So
- 6:46when you have someone in your life, especially parents who are listening right now,
- 6:48if you have a child who was reflecting to you things that seem a
- 6:51little bit strange, listen, don't put them down, don't say they have
- 6:56overactive imaginations. Give them a chance to express themselves, because who knows,
- 7:00they may be sharing something very important with you. Would you agree, absolutely?
- 7:04And I think I used to also express all of this through store.
- 7:09I used to love creative writing. I had a really good imagination. And
- 7:14again, something that you and I shared and come and absolutely now you shared
- 7:18that you acquired your first tarot deck when you were sixteen, What drew you
- 7:24to card reading? And how did you learn to use them? So by
- 7:30this point I think I was opening up to my mum and particularly her sister
- 7:33my aunt, who were all very close with and they started to tell me
- 7:41a little bit. So I think they understood more than what I understood them
- 7:46to have understood, if you know, when I was younger, because they'd
- 7:49also had strange things going on with themselves, particularly my aunt, whose house
- 7:55is very very active with spirit, that is, and eventually I was able
- 8:03to be understood. And my mum was telling me about these tarot cards,
- 8:07and I'd read somewhere that actually, you're not supposed to buy your own tarot
- 8:13cards. So I decided to buy her them, but I think it was
- 8:16a birthday. But of course my mum wasn't really into it like I was,
- 8:20so she ended up giving them back to me, and I spent hours
- 8:24just looking at them, first of all reading the little booklet that comes with
- 8:28it, and then eventually by different sets, because I understood by them that
- 8:31you can buy your own, and it's fine, you know, it was
- 8:35just a little myth, really, you know that you shouldn't buy your own.
- 8:41And I just explored different types of tarot decks and oracle cards and fairy
- 8:46cards that kind of thing. And I just did the spreads myself or my
- 8:52friends, my families, and it would be like anybody that came round,
- 8:56I'd be like, could you do my cards for me? Cause you know,
- 9:00and I used to get them out and I just I kind of became
- 9:03more self learnt with tarots. So even now I don't necessarily follow any spreads.
- 9:09I just turn the cards over and use them really as a tool because
- 9:13I just find them visually really inviting an interest in and I just want to
- 9:18find them beautiful. Actually, I love the images on those cards, and
- 9:20they become a focal point for the energy, don't they They do. They
- 9:26help me to as I said, they they're my tool. So when I'm
- 9:28working in mediumship, which is what I do most of the time, I
- 9:33will put a spread out or you know, just lay a few cards.
- 9:37But actually that's for me just to get into the energy and then the moment
- 9:41spirit come, they take over and they're talking to me. But they might
- 9:46direct me to an image or a number or a word or something on those
- 9:52cards, so that they're like a focal point, but I don't actually read
- 9:56them as in, this is what that card means, this is what that
- 10:00hard means. And also in your teen years, you were drawn to shops
- 10:05that sold mystical items, including crystals. Please tell us about your fascination with
- 10:09crystals and all things magical. Yes, so, as I said, when
- 10:15we were younger, we used to go down to Cornwall where there was all
- 10:18the elves and pixes, and that's that's obviously in the UK, and I
- 10:24used to love old places like well, I love churches. I love churches
- 10:30a lot, but places that hold a lot of history because you can feel
- 10:35the energy. And so always those places had gift shops, and in those
- 10:39gift shops there were always crystals. And for me, they're like, well,
- 10:43they like sweets and a jar, you know, or little gems that
- 10:46wink at me. And I just used to love picking them up and feeling
- 10:50the energy. But as a teenager, I didn't really know what I was
- 10:54doing with them. I was just drawn to them and I had them in
- 10:56my room. And then as I got older and my life started to kind
- 11:03of well, I went to today levels, I went to university. This
- 11:07side of me never went away, but I kind of put it to one
- 11:11side until because I didn't really know what was doing with the crystals. I
- 11:15just knew that I liked them. I just knew that I needed them in
- 11:18my energy, and I used to just touch them and hold them. And
- 11:22it wasn't until later that I refound my love for crystals, and they're everywhere
- 11:26in my house. I'm known for my crystals. Okay, which is your
- 11:31favorite crystal or do you have a favorite crystal. Oh well, I don't
- 11:35have a focal crystal because they are all just amazing. But I think everybody
- 11:39needs to have a rose quartz, a clear quart, and an amethyst.
- 11:45For me, I was going to say, they're the ones with the really
- 11:46high high vibration or healing energy. There's so many others a gates, and
- 11:54there's just so many of them I could really I can't really choose them,
- 11:58but I think if you were only to have one or two, they would
- 12:03be my ones of choice. I happened to wear a black tourmaline. I
- 12:07have worn black tormaline for years and years and years, and as you know,
- 12:11black tourmaline is something that wards off negative energy. That's right, yes,
- 12:16and I find that very well, very well placed, especially in the
- 12:20world of business for mans. That's right now. Tomaline, like all the
- 12:26blackstones, obsidian, even hematite, you know, all those darker crystals,
- 12:31they keep you grounded. And I used to put them underneath the mat in
- 12:37my house so when people were walking through, I could cleanse their energies.
- 12:41They walk through their house absolutely. Now with the birth of your second son,
- 12:48your intuitive skills became stronger. Please describe how this manifested for you.
- 12:54Yes, So again, by then I was already opening up to this real
- 13:00world. I was doing a lot more kind of reading and finding out about
- 13:03tarot and healing and crystals, past life, astrology, anything really that I
- 13:11could get my hands on. But it was the visions that used to keep
- 13:15coming. So although I always went by my intuition and felt things intuitively,
- 13:20when I had my son, and I was thirty three when I had him,
- 13:24I used to just like lie there and I would get my grandfather's coming
- 13:28in because by then my maternal grandfather had passed away. I'd get images of
- 13:33navy ships because I knew that they were in the navy. I'd see faces
- 13:37and when I was when he was a tiny baby, and I remember like
- 13:41changing his nappy and he'd say that, Mummy, he's you know Auntie Joe,
- 13:46Auntie Joe behind me. I mean, in his kind of he wasn't
- 13:48very old by them, but he could recognize it. And I was like
- 13:52the middle of the night, there's nobody here. So I think that he
- 13:54was, well, I know that he's also intuitive and very spiritual, and
- 13:58I think he'd just awaken that within me. And it became so that I
- 14:03had to go and find somebody and say, look, you know, I'm
- 14:07not really sure I'm going with any of this. I'm not really sure what's
- 14:11happening. But I know that spirit is communicating with me, and I know
- 14:15I need to try and find somebody to kind of help me to develop or
- 14:18to tell me what's going on really. And this led to your joining a
- 14:24healing circle where you learned reiki, Rahaney and crystal healing. How did each
- 14:28of these modalities open your understanding of working with energy? So the first thing
- 14:35I did was the healing circle really taught me about energy, energy centers,
- 14:41the aura, and how to keep that healthy, how to keep that safe,
- 14:48how to make sure that I was grounded, and if I was open,
- 14:50how to close down or at least bring that energy in so I wasn't
- 14:54absorbing the energy from everybody and my environment around me. So just working with
- 15:01the hands, and I've always been hands off, you know, I never
- 15:05placed my hands on somebody. It's always like, have my hands hovering and
- 15:09we'd do color, we would do sound, we would do all different types
- 15:13of healing. But I was really drawn to the reiki because for me,
- 15:18it felt really grounding, and it was very gentle, but very very powerful
- 15:24and very strong, and I just loved that energy and to know how to
- 15:30work within somebody else's oric field and how to to understand what's going on with
- 15:37them, whether that was either physical or emotional or mentally. And I think
- 15:41that's also using my guides. They were giving me the information as I was
- 15:45working. So reiki came first, and I studied Reyki up to masters.
- 15:50I'm a Reiki master and loved teaching that and introducing everybody else into the reiki
- 15:56energy. But then I found that I've always been really close to angels.
- 16:02I love the Angelica energy too, and I just stumbled on it really.
- 16:08Somebody I was talking to about ki and healing, they told me about Rahani,
- 16:12which is quite a high modality, quite fast frequency that has been given
- 16:21to us at this stage now because our lives are much faster and much quicker.
- 16:25But it's linked into the angels and Kwan Yin, so the ascended Master
- 16:30Kuan Yin, and it all radiates on on a level like the pink.
- 16:37It's all about the one heart, the open heart, and so I've just
- 16:42found that to be most magical really and very very calm, and it's very
- 16:48very good for children as well. And because I trained as a teacher,
- 16:53particularly a special needs teacher, and I've worked with a lot of children who
- 16:59had emotional difficulties. So whether that's speech and language, which was the base
- 17:04that I ran, or whether it was because they had ADHD or they're on
- 17:11the autistic spectrum, this kind of healing, well, all healing, it
- 17:15just really helps them to calm and to center so that they can understand themselves
- 17:22a little bit better. And I just felt working with the angels and working
- 17:25within that healing, the light of both reiki and rahani to be really soothing,
- 17:29not just for the people that I'm working with, but I always felt
- 17:33like you probably feel that when you're giving healing, you have an essence of
- 17:37that healing yourself. It comes down through you and it's a little bit like
- 17:40for me, I describe it as the honey jar. You know, it
- 17:44comes down and you give that healing out because we are at the channel,
- 17:47but actually a little bit stays behind on the sides, doesn't it. Absolutely?
- 17:52And also crystal healing tell us about crystal healing, So the crystals,
- 17:56as I said, you know, I fell in love with crystals, and
- 17:59I just couldn't get enough, and I wanted to know what all the crystals
- 18:02were and how they helped. And although I will give crystal healing individually,
- 18:07I always merge my healing with crystals, So whether that's for the chakras or
- 18:14generally speak and I just say to the people that I'm working with, you
- 18:17know which crystals are you drawn to? Because I've never I've never been in
- 18:22situation and I don't know whether you work with crystal's victor, But whenever people
- 18:26pick a crystal and I explain to them what that crystal is, whether it's
- 18:30to do with the crystal or whether it's to do with the color, it's
- 18:33always they they always say, that's exactly what I need, that's exactly what
- 18:37I'm feeling, that's exactly what I'm going through. So I feel that intuitively,
- 18:41we're always drawn to the right crystal, whether that's crystal that's going to
- 18:45give us the energy or whether it's the crystal that's going to help us soothe.
- 18:49Absolutely true and something that I've also experienced and see people seem to know
- 18:56intuitively, even if they're not practicing or out about their abilities, they're drawn
- 19:00to the things that they actually need to use in their lives, aren't they?
- 19:04They are? And that's our wonderful guides and angels that direct us with
- 19:08that. I think absolutely. You had mentioned the chakras. Tell us what
- 19:14you learned about these subtle energy centers, these chakras, So for me,
- 19:18the chakrash you know, these are our raised in energy centers. They are
- 19:25there. Well, the term means spinning wheel, so they're like vortexes of
- 19:30energy. And although we have loads of different chackras all over our body,
- 19:33there are seven main chakras, so we I don't necessarily know the real words
- 19:40for them because I always go by the base chakra, that the sacral.
- 19:45But we've got the seven major chakras that are in our bodies, and they
- 19:52align with our physical, our emotional, mental, and spiritual bodies. And
- 19:57as they spin, we need to keep them in alignment and as they spin
- 20:03and as they're opening, and they're regulating our energy and helping us to be
- 20:07in tune with the world, with nature and the world and ourselves. You
- 20:14learn that over time or through life, and depending on our situations, that
- 20:18sometimes our shakras are too open, or sometimes that we've closed them down a
- 20:22little bit, so therefore they're not all spinning at the same rate, and
- 20:29therefore we're not in aligned. And if our bodies are not in aligned,
- 20:33then we're going to feel differently. We're either going to be you know,
- 20:37heading the clouds and not being able to be grounded, or we're not We're
- 20:41going to be feeling really really low and have those energy feels of you know,
- 20:47not depression, but you know, just those I don't know what to
- 20:49do in life and life's not working for me, or you know, things
- 20:52aren't happening. So so for me, working with the crystals, working with
- 20:56the healing energy, and working within the Shaqrass system, it's about alignment and
- 21:02making sure that we're in balance, because when our bodies are imbalanced, we
- 21:04have that harmony. And when we have that harmony, we're able to tap
- 21:08into our you know, our sole purpose and what we're supposed to be doing
- 21:11here, and we can communicate properly. We can we can get those downloads
- 21:18of inspirations, but you know, whatever the chakra we're linking into, and
- 21:22that's what we need to be doing daily. But because our lives are busy,
- 21:27because we read things here, things, have conversations. You know,
- 21:32our chakra system can be become unbalanced quite easily. So for me, a
- 21:37regular whether that's meditation, sitting with the crystals, or giving ourselves some self
- 21:42healing, tapping into that energy and making sure that our chakras are aligned is
- 21:48for me, is a regular and important practice. You've shared that the first
- 21:53time you stood up to speak at one of these circles and connect with spirit,
- 22:00that it was horrifying for you. How So, the funny thing is
- 22:06is that I was a primary school teacher and I was able to talk to
- 22:11a class of thirty. I could run an assembly with like, you know,
- 22:17one hundred and fifty children, not a problem, It wouldn't It wouldn't
- 22:21phase me. But standing up in front of other members of a circle and
- 22:30telling them what I'm getting from the spirit world felt really scary because I feel
- 22:36like, what if I'm making this up? What if? Because I'm quite
- 22:42a practical person being an Earth sign, I'm a very practical person. I'm
- 22:45a quite scientific person. So I like to have you know rules and regulations.
- 22:52I like to know what's you know, what's right, and what's real
- 22:56and what's not real. So this for me was like a leap of faith.
- 22:59Having to trust all the feelings that I was getting, all the images
- 23:02I was getting, all the words and everything, and trying to convey that
- 23:06into a message for somebody. Was WHOA really out of my comfort zone to
- 23:12start with, because you know, it's that trust of the spirit world,
- 23:18and it was something I was very passionate about as well. So you know,
- 23:22you learn things being a school teacher, you learn what you're teaching.
- 23:27Was this was very new and unfamiliar and, as I say, a leap
- 23:32of faith for me. My guest is Alison Gray. We're going to be
- 23:36talking about her new book, The Mindful Medium, A Practical Guide to Spirituality.
- 23:41Allison, please share with our listeners where they can get your book and
- 23:45find out more about you. Okay, so thank you. So my book
- 23:49is out on the twenty ninth March the twenty ninth, and you can get
- 23:55it from Amazon, but the publishers is sixth book Think from Collective Books.
- 24:00You can order the book from there, and you can find me on my
- 24:03website Alison graymedium dot com and my title is The Mindful Medium. You can
- 24:10also find me on Facebook under Psychic Insights, or you can find me on
- 24:19Instagram under Alison Gray Medium and We'll be back with more A battlesome after these
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- 25:55Welcome Mile in the Shoes. Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this
- 26:03week is Alison Gray. We're talking about her new book, The Mindful Medium,
- 26:07A Practical Guide to Spirituality. Allison, what inspired The Mindful Medium for
- 26:17me? As I explained earlier, I grew up with all of this information
- 26:22coming to me, all these experiences, the dreams, the feelings, and
- 26:29I just didn't know who to go to. I didn't know where to learn
- 26:32anything, who to talk to. So my inspiration for this book really is
- 26:37like a practical guide for anybody who's starting out in the same way that I
- 26:44did and wanted to find out what's happening to them Like I did, I
- 26:52had to find myself a teacher. But for me, I'm putting all my
- 26:55knowledge, all my experiences from everywhere into books. So I started off with
- 27:00a little background on myself, and you know, because I thought that may
- 27:04also inspire other people to think, well, this is what I was like
- 27:07as a child, or this is what I experienced to then the middle section
- 27:14being all my tools and tips that I have learnt either through various different teachers
- 27:19because I found I also had to go to different teachers for different things because
- 27:23I was you know that I had a healing group and my mediumship. Then
- 27:29they didn't all tell me about the angels, or they didn't tell me all
- 27:32about the crystals or past life regression or astrology. So I had to go
- 27:37and find all this information in different places. So I just wanted to bring
- 27:41that all together in my book so people would have like a reference so they
- 27:45could dip in and out of things when they inspired them all or they suddenly
- 27:51look Because we don't learn it all in, you know, in one go,
- 27:55we develop and evolve. And as we develop and evolve, our understanding
- 28:00changes, and other doors open and new ideas and new feelings come in.
- 28:04And you know, I sit a lot with my guides and I ask them
- 28:08so many questions I must be really annoying to then, but I like to
- 28:12understand. So everything I do, everything I've experienced in I need to internalize
- 28:19and it needs to resonate with me. So I will often read things or
- 28:23sit with my guides, and if it feels right and resonates with me,
- 28:26I'm like, yeah, that's that for me, feels true, and I
- 28:30will speak that. I'll speak that as my truth. And there's some things
- 28:33that you know that you may also say, victor that that does Oh I'm
- 28:37not quite sure or I'm not ready for that kind of information, you know.
- 28:41So when we're talking about higher beings, I have a level of understanding
- 28:44on high beans, and I believe in high beans, but if anybody talks
- 28:48to me about UFOs, I'm not really sure I'm ready for that kind of
- 28:52thing, you know. So I just wanted to put everything that I've experienced,
- 28:56everything that resonates with me, and all my knowledge in one place.
- 29:03And then the third part of the book is all about my mindfulness, which
- 29:07is where I've got the title from because working with children with special needs,
- 29:12having my own children, and just working with crystals and the healing for me,
- 29:18mindfulness and well being is so very important, and I just wanted to
- 29:23put in some meditations that I love writing in there so that people can tap
- 29:30into themselves and have a better understanding on who they are. When you're ready
- 29:36to talk about UFO has given me a call. Okay, I do believe
- 29:41in them. I absolutely believe in them. That yeah, I have seen
- 29:48I have seen an ORB with an alien's face in the middle, and that
- 29:53really shocked me because it was a first. You know, I see orbs
- 29:57and they're always loving and angelic, and you know my spirit loved ones.
- 30:03But I had this phase and I was like, whoa. And I've had
- 30:07a dream also, Well, I wasn't dream. I was waking up and
- 30:11I had this thing come to me and again I don't know who it was,
- 30:15but he had he had like crocodile skin and like a sword, and
- 30:21he just said to me, I found you. And I was like,
- 30:22oh, I'm not sure what I've done. So I just called the angels
- 30:27to surround me in love and protection. So I know that there. I'm
- 30:32just haven't quite embraced that side, but I shall definitely call you absolutely.
- 30:40So you touched upon the importance of meditation and visualization and developing ourselves. How
- 30:45do these practices help us get the gifts of spirit because we come back to
- 30:52our center, we come back to who we are and I always find that
- 30:57when I'm grounded, when I'm centered, when I'm at peace, when I'm
- 31:03when I'm relaxed and i haven't got all these thoughts and all these feelings racing
- 31:08around me, my energy changes, it shifts, and I can feel Spirit
- 31:15much closer to me. If I'm racing around, they try and tap and
- 31:22knock on the door, and I'm like, yeah, too busy to busy.
- 31:25But when I'm in a place of stillness, when I'm in a place
- 31:27of when I call it the zone, then spirit world is much more tangible
- 31:33and that they can come through much clearer. And it's a little bit like
- 31:36why a lot of people can have those spirit dreams or have those really vivid
- 31:41dreams, because Spirit can communicate with them because the body is at rest,
- 31:45and they can tap in to the subconscious and to the mind and to your
- 31:51soul. I've taught meditation for many years, and I have people who come
- 31:56to me and say, I can't do that. I can't quiet my mind,
- 31:59I don't have time to meditate. What do you say to people who
- 32:00give you stories like that? I love that challenge. I do like a
- 32:06challenge. So I run a meditation group as well, and some of the
- 32:12people that come to my group to start with find it really difficult to switch
- 32:17off. So I always start with a breathing exercise. So we always do
- 32:22that breath work where we just feel the flow of the breath in through the
- 32:27nose, out of the mouth, relaxing the body, and just by listening
- 32:31and being guided by the voice and following that trail of our breath can take
- 32:38us already into that zone of pushing everything out because that's not important. And
- 32:45then when their mind has begun to still using the breath, then you can
- 32:51either continue with a guided meditation or learn. And it is something we have
- 32:54to develop. And it's really interesting because you know, sometimes I run my
- 32:59class is for six weeks and at the beginning they're twitching and they're fussing,
- 33:04and they're you know, they can't concentrate, and then by the end I've
- 33:07practically got them asleep, you know, because your body. You have to
- 33:09train your body to do that. But I think it's very important that we
- 33:14give ourselves that time off. And if we're not good at sitting still,
- 33:17and if we're not very good at you know, putting on a piece of
- 33:22music and just sitting there and listening to it, Go for a walk outside,
- 33:27just go into nature. Sometimes a lot of my spirit communication comes when
- 33:31I'm cooking, because the spirit world know that I just go off. So
- 33:36when we do things that we are we don't have to think about. It's
- 33:40a little bit like daydreaming. And I think that's probably why I was a
- 33:44bit like that as a child away with the fairies, because when your mind
- 33:49just allowed, when you just allow yourself to come and just drift, then
- 33:52the spirit world can can come in. So mindfulness or meditation doesn't have to
- 33:57be sitting here and char It can just be using the breath. It can
- 34:02be putting on a piece of music. It could just be for me,
- 34:06it was like holding crystals and just turning them around and observing them, you
- 34:10know, in my hands, to doing the things that enjoy, cooking,
- 34:15gardening, going for nice long walk, or even just swiming in the sea.
- 34:20It's a question of presents, isn't it Just being present with whatever the
- 34:22activity you're doing is. Yeah, definitely just And I always say it just
- 34:29brings you back to yourself, centering yourself and bring you back to you the
- 34:34here and the now. Absolutely now, how may we differentiate communication with the
- 34:39spirits of those who have departed and the angelic realm Ah. I love that
- 34:46question. So for me, I used to spend a long time on this,
- 34:52and I used to ask my guides to come in and give me that
- 34:58feeling so that I would know who I was connecting with. So I spent
- 35:01a lot of time with my loved ones, right, you know, how
- 35:05are you going to make me feel? So when my dad comes in,
- 35:07you know, my heart starts racing, when my ground when my grandfathers come
- 35:15in, I might get an image in my mind. Spirit for me feel
- 35:22a little bit more, they feel how do I explain this, not closer.
- 35:29They feel a little bit more grounded, They feel a little bit more
- 35:31kind of Oh, here you are, you've turned up. The angelic grounds
- 35:36feel to me like a whole out of love, encompassing love that surrounds me
- 35:42completely. And my whole energy really lifts as the vibration around me rises.
- 35:49So there's that sense of I can feel my loved ones or the spirit world.
- 35:53I can feel their energies as they were as people down here when they're
- 35:58on the earth plane. But Jelly, it's and I always feel as if
- 36:01I have to sit really tall when the angels come, because they've got really
- 36:05tall, powerful energy, but such a loving, such a gentle energy,
- 36:09and they talk differently. So spirits or loved ones, guides and angels all
- 36:16have a different way of talking. And this is my experience, this is
- 36:21how I've differentiated it. So the spirit world would often talk as they were,
- 36:25and they would bring through those lovely stories and those feelings and their personalities
- 36:30and their characters and their passing conditions. Guides are very direct, very direct,
- 36:37and it's kind of like we're just going to get straight to the point.
- 36:38And it feels like, you know, I talk really fast when I'm
- 36:42talking with guides and the angels, as I say, just bring that beautiful,
- 36:45loving, healing reassurance as they communicate. Do we have a choice as
- 36:52to who or who manifests as our spirit guide. I believe our spirit GUIDs
- 37:00are souls that we've what the earth was, so spirit guides, unlike the
- 37:07angels, guides have lived on the earth before, and I feel that we've
- 37:10got that karmic link with them, and we have that we have that connection
- 37:20where we have made that agreement that we are either going to help or support
- 37:25or teach. So I feel that within our past lives, and this is
- 37:29again, this is my understanding. What my guys have told me is that
- 37:32sometimes we'll have different roles. So you know, I may have been their
- 37:36guides before them, they're this time around, they've chosen to be my guides.
- 37:40But they know my blueprint, they know what my mission is, what
- 37:44my purpose is, what I'm supposed to be doing, and they're the ones
- 37:47that help me along the way, guiding me and putting me into the right
- 37:53places, the right situations, meeting the right people. They can engineer and
- 37:59we all of that magically, I think, and I think they are very
- 38:04much aligned to my energy, so they would have that understanding of who I
- 38:07am, so a little bit like why we choose our friends. They get
- 38:12us, don't they They understand us, and that's why we energetically connect and
- 38:17recognize them when they come in. And I feel we have guides for different
- 38:22reasons as well, So you would have healing guides, learning guides, teaching
- 38:24guides. I've had situations where voices have come to me inside, not my
- 38:31voice, but voices inside and have given me guidance at times of great import
- 38:39advised me when someone in my family who is many, many thousands of miles
- 38:43away was ill, advised me to do certain practices on myself to promote healing,
- 38:49etc. And I find that those voices are both very direct, but
- 38:53they're also very calm and loving rather than a shouting voice. How do we
- 38:58differentiate between the shot voice, which I believe is ego and that calm,
- 39:02still voice that gives us that guidance and loving affirmation. Yeah, well,
- 39:07I think I think the ego voice is a lot of the time our fears
- 39:14it comes, you know, these are the things that we dread and put
- 39:17us out of our comfort zones. And and my understanding is that our guides,
- 39:23whether they are loved ones, guides or angels, are here for our
- 39:28highest good and they are they're lovingly helping us move forward, whereas the ego
- 39:35is us not wanting to make those changes, or resisting those changes, or
- 39:39scared to make those changes. And again, that's we have to a lot
- 39:44of the time when I'm working and when I'm teaching spiritually, I'm saying,
- 39:46we have to shift ourselves from that ego self. We have to let that
- 39:51go so that we can listen to the direct line really and allow that to
- 39:57come through. But I definitely feel exactly as you've said, our guides and
- 40:00loved ones and angels are much more encouraging and supportive and more gentle than the
- 40:07shouting ego of fear. Our listeners are familiar with the words describing how we
- 40:13make sense, energy and spirit, including clairvoyance, Claire audience, Clare sentience.
- 40:17How may readers find their specific way of sensing and develop it? I
- 40:24feel that this is a lot of this is to do with this is a
- 40:28good question, and there is a question that I pick up a lot in
- 40:30my teaching. You know which ones are our strongest, Claire's, and it's
- 40:36usually with how we are in our characters. So if you're a very visual
- 40:40person, if you like art and you like to do things with your eyes
- 40:45then and you know, like color and things like that, then you're going
- 40:49to be and you're very good at imagination, you know, creativity, that
- 40:53kind of thing, then you're going to be drawn with your clairvoyance. If
- 40:58you pick up energy and you're an EmPATH and you feel things, you're going
- 41:01to pick things up Claire sentiently. And then the other ones work in marvelous
- 41:08ways, because you know, if you're communicator, you're going to be listening,
- 41:12you're going to be hearing. But the one that is the hardest is
- 41:15that Claire knowing, where you just know and you don't know how you know.
- 41:22That's the hardest one to accept. That's the one that most people think
- 41:25I'm making up. Because your body can see things, it can feel things,
- 41:30it can smell things, it can hear things. But the knowing takes
- 41:34that leap of faith. It's strange. I did not know there's a thing
- 41:37called some people have clear old facts where they smell things and get information from
- 41:43that. Yes, so I've done readings before where I mean, okay,
- 41:51I've done readings before where I've smelt things like apple pie, or I've smelt
- 41:54food, which is quite interested. It makes you quite But also going back
- 42:01to when I was having my children, my children were young, and they
- 42:05were up in the night and I was feeding them in the middle of the
- 42:07night. I'm not a smoker, my husband wasn't. We didn't have any
- 42:10smoking in the house, and it would be in the middle of the night
- 42:14and I would get this waft of cigarettes, always, this waft of cigarettes,
- 42:19and I knew that it was my grandfather, my maternal grandfather, around
- 42:22me because he was such a heavy smoker. And you know, I'd look
- 42:25out the window and there was nobody on the streets, and the windows were,
- 42:29you know, nevitably closed because it was nighttime. But yes, you
- 42:31can pick up that sense of smell and you can determine who is around you.
- 42:37It's quite an interesting one. You can also get the taste of things
- 42:38as well. Absolutely. You know, it's funny. I kid people by
- 42:43saying that I'm clairvoyant, Clare, audient, Clare Cynthia, and I have
- 42:45all the clears. I call myself an A Claire. My guest is Alison
- 42:52Gray, her new book The Mindful Medium, A Practical Guide to Spirituality.
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- 44:49My guest this week is Allison Gray. Were talking about her new book The
- 44:52Mindful Medium, A Practical Guide to Spirituality. Allison, what do you see
- 44:59as the diffference between spirituality and spiritualism? So? I think spirituality is who
- 45:07we are and how we're made up, and what our beliefs are core beliefs,
- 45:15and what we are guided to, how we hold ourselves and how express
- 45:21ourselves. I feel that, you know, we can have Christianity spiritual You
- 45:24know these are I suppose that their organizations that tell us how to how to
- 45:30be or how to do things. Whereas I feel that if you're spiritual,
- 45:36it comes from within and it's who you are as that person, rather than
- 45:40being told how to be something or what we should and what we shouldn't be
- 45:45doing, which I feel sometimes organized sometimes organized religions can be a little bit
- 45:52like that, So I think, you know, if you're a spiritual person,
- 45:55it comes from within you and compassion in that love. You know.
- 46:01One of the things that I learned when I attended the New Seminary, the
- 46:06Interfaith Seminary in the nineteen nineties is that in virtually every faith and belief system
- 46:13there is an iteration of the Golden rule, doing to others as you'd have
- 46:15them doing to you, Love thy neighbor as thyself. If everyone practice those
- 46:21two tenets and just disregard to everything else, what a world we would have.
- 46:27Absolutely. I remember having that written on a plate as I was a
- 46:30child and always ask my mum, well what does that mean? She said,
- 46:36you know, treat other people how you would like to be treated yourself.
- 46:40It seems basic, doesn't it, But it's so important. Absolutely.
- 46:45Please share with our listeners how they may use some of the divination tools that
- 46:50you share in your book, including cards and crystals. I wrote the meanings
- 46:57of some of these, So let's just go with the tara because I feel
- 47:01that, you know, you need to have a basic understanding if you're going
- 47:04to be using them for divination. So if you're going to be using them
- 47:07to look into other people's lives, what's going on around them. You need
- 47:13to have a little understanding on what their meaning is. And you know,
- 47:17there'd be loads and loads of books mine included, where they would tell you
- 47:21a brief meaning, but actually what you're doing the same with crystals. You
- 47:25know, people will write various lots and lots of books that this is what
- 47:29the crystal means. And but for me, the way I teach and the
- 47:32way that I've learned how to work is that we all have a different opinion
- 47:38and it all has to resonate with what we believe. So what my feelings
- 47:45are at crystal means what that terror card means would be very different from somebody
- 47:50else. So we all have different interpretations. So I always use them as
- 47:54a tool and as a guide and ask that we tap into the energy and
- 48:00also like make up our own it's like our own vocabulary, it's our symbolism
- 48:07and what that actually means to me. So we were talking a little bit
- 48:12in the break about you know the rings in your poem, and the rings
- 48:16would mean something different to you than they would for me. So you know,
- 48:21by all means, look a look at the books, look at the
- 48:22tips, but generally feel them intuitively, and I feel that is my message
- 48:30in my book. You know, these these these are all basic understandings so
- 48:36that you can put it together. But my real teaching and my real advice
- 48:39is feel it yourself. Listen to what your intuition is saying, Listen to
- 48:43the guides, listen to the loved ones and how what they're trying to express.
- 48:49But I feel that, you know, the taro and picking up crystals
- 48:52are very powerful. They're very powerful tools, and they can give a lot
- 48:57of insight into the energy and what's going on around other people. So for
- 49:01me, I carry my tarot cards with me everywhere. I love them.
- 49:05They're like best friends, you know, and they're always gat they're always a
- 49:08great talking point. But again they're tools. And actually when you're open to
- 49:16the energy of spirit, that's the pure. For me, that's the pure,
- 49:21the pure voice that's coming in. And I find that that comes in
- 49:24and without me even thinking about it, without me even connecting to my ego,
- 49:29connecting to my own experiences, I just allow it to come out,
- 49:32and that is the pure for me, the pure channel of mediumship and working
- 49:37with the spirit world. In your work, what have you learned about the
- 49:42afterlife and how may this be helpful to those grieving the loss of loved ones.
- 49:50So when I was said, when I was ten and I lost my
- 49:52grandfather, I was thrown into a massive panic of well, I'm never going
- 49:59to see him again? And what is the point of life? And is
- 50:04it just black? Where does the body? You know, where do we
- 50:07go when we pass over? And as a ten year old, that created
- 50:12a lot of fear within me. And it's taken me, you know,
- 50:16to now to understand and to really believe that there is life after life,
- 50:22that there is this We are eternal souls, and we have had many lives
- 50:29before we've had this one, and there will be many lives afterwards, and
- 50:32that our souls go on, and that we as we pass over into the
- 50:38spirit world, whether you want to call that heaven or whatever you want to
- 50:42call it, that there is you know, that love, that bond of
- 50:45love that we have continues, and I believe that we grow and we continue
- 50:52to grow, our souls continue to grow as we pass over. But the
- 50:57wonderful thing about mediumship and connecting with our loved ones and proving that life goes
- 51:05on if you like is through by having readings, you can pick up on
- 51:07that personality. So if you know, if you're reading for somebody and you're
- 51:10bringing through a loved one, you're able to give them enough information for them
- 51:15to say, well, there must be something out there, because otherwise,
- 51:19how do they know that about my loved one. I haven't shared any of
- 51:23this because it's quite recent, but I lost I lost my husband a year
- 51:27ago through through through cancer, and he always believed in everything that I did,
- 51:37but he didn't always have the understanding of the spirit world. And through
- 51:45his treatment and through his through the time that he had, he really grew
- 51:51to understand what it meant or what I was telling him all these years that
- 51:57I was doing and taking on that he and learning about the other side.
- 52:01And actually, by the time it came around that when he was passing,
- 52:06he was ready to go because there was no fear there because he knew that
- 52:09there was something else afterwards. And I think it's important if we can to
- 52:16have that understanding, because it takes away the fear that you know, it's
- 52:22just this is just one life and everything it stops, because it doesn't it
- 52:25continues. And I think mediumship gives us that evidence that life continues, in
- 52:31that there is that existence earthly body has passed over. Have you shared this
- 52:38with your sons? I have, I have. I've got four boys.
- 52:45One of them is an atheist. He doesn't believe in it at all,
- 52:49But he's the one I feel that struggles the most. My other children,
- 52:52the other three have all had experiences with their father, so they do have
- 52:58that understanding. I mean, I know what I do, but they've had
- 53:02that understanding, so you know, they've had that connection. So they may
- 53:07not completely understand it to the level that maybe I do, but at least
- 53:10they know that there's something. You know, their dad hasn't just left,
- 53:15you know, he's gone somewhere else, but he's still available and he's still
- 53:19around, and that love continues. How may we open and heal our heart
- 53:24chakras in a world so filled with fear and divisiveness. So I think we
- 53:32need to look around us to see the love actually that is around us.
- 53:37So we do focus on the negatives. We hear a lot of the negatives,
- 53:43but actually act of kindness from other people, the compassion and the love
- 53:49that actually that we are shown. That I was shown when my husband was
- 53:52ill that I've always been shown. Really, I think, you know,
- 53:55if we look past the fear, I can look to the small acts of
- 54:01kindness. So like you know, when we had COVID and people reached out
- 54:06to other people. There are so many compassionate, loving people out there that
- 54:13we forget with all the wars and all the troubles in the world, that
- 54:16actually we do pull together. And I think focusing on our heart chakras and
- 54:22encouraging them to be open, encouraging those positive feelings and not just having them
- 54:30ourselves, but by sharing them with others. I think that's really important in
- 54:36opening and keeping our heart chakras shining and spinning absolutely basic acts of empathy,
- 54:44compassion and kindness we feel and change our world. Yeah, you know,
- 54:51just by somebody giving you a bunch of flowers, or just by picking up
- 54:57the phone and asking how's your day. My sons do that to me.
- 55:00They come in from school and how you doing, mom, how's your day
- 55:02been? And I'm like, oh, they're interested that, you know,
- 55:07because I've asked them that. So it has a knock on effect. So
- 55:13they they learn. You know, you learn and you grow, and if
- 55:15you're in that environment that is loving and caring, and people have done that
- 55:20to you, you're more more open to doing those for other people. And
- 55:23I think that's what we need to share in the world. So again it
- 55:27goes back to what you were saying, you know, do what you know,
- 55:30what you want to receive, do it for others as well. The
- 55:35wisdom and experience of my guest Alison Gray. Her book is entitled The Mindful
- 55:39Medium, A Practical Guide to Spirituality. Allison, one more time, please
- 55:45share with our listeners whether it can get your book and find out more about
- 55:47you. Yeah, thank you so Amazon and Collective Book sixth Books, so
- 55:53Collective Books. But you can find in my website Alison Gray Medium, The
- 55:59Mindful and you can find me on Facebook, and you can find me in
- 56:05Spiritual Insights, and you can find me on Instagram. Allison, thank you
- 56:09so much for joining us and sharing your experience and your wisdom and your great
- 56:14heart. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. Thank you
- 56:17and thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited. I'm Victor, the voice
- 56:22Herman of a Wonderful week