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NFL First Look | Week 14 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: The system's going clear the leftop.
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  Speaker 2: What's up? Everyone? Tyler Tambaline here aka TOTEG and Tamba
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  Speaker 2: back for another edition of the First Look Show Here
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  Speaker 2: on the Ship at Nation YouTube Station. We got week fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: I had one of my favorite shows to always do.
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  Speaker 2: Got my guy degenerate seventy five here with me, just
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  Speaker 2: a simple man with the simple process. Coming off of
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  Speaker 2: another big GPP win DJ. What's going on? My friend
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  Speaker 2: taking it down last night? Twenty five K plus for
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  Speaker 2: yourself and the community at a big day as well.
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  Speaker 2: I'll show it all off in a minute, but I'll
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  Speaker 2: bring you in first. What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're gonna live the Jamis slut lifestyle,
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  Speaker 3: you got to be there. I don't even typically play
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  Speaker 3: Showdown that much. I just you know, I'm not as
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  Speaker 3: much in the NFL Showdown as I am in the
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  Speaker 3: PGA Showdown. More of a meanings like guy. But when
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  Speaker 3: I see Jamis and I see a contrarian narrative I
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  Speaker 3: can go with for the game. You know, the game
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  Speaker 3: narrative that everybody was playing. You know, I'm in and
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  Speaker 3: Jamis he doesn't. He always delivers. He's just the guy.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't know how to do anything with throw touchdowns and
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  Speaker 3: pick sixes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the best was last night really did set up
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  Speaker 2: well for it. I lean to the under a lot
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  Speaker 2: more so I'll definitely take my l on that. I
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  Speaker 2: thought it could stay under. Everybody loved the over. It
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  Speaker 2: teas that the YouTube chat was they're now one in
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  Speaker 2: eighty seven on picking the over under correctly, but they
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  Speaker 2: loved the over and I just said, like, I could
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  Speaker 2: see where it could fail a little. But interestingly enough,
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  Speaker 2: it was just flipping the build everyone on bo Nix
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  Speaker 2: or Sutton and it was essentially Jamis or Judy And
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  Speaker 2: even if you want to put in joke who I
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  Speaker 2: know some you know how it shook out in the
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  Speaker 2: exact ending is different, but just to say it was
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  Speaker 2: all those guys that you could have flipped it around
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  Speaker 2: to on the other side. And sometimes it's as simple
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  Speaker 2: as that. In the showdown slates, you don't have to
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  Speaker 2: look for complete diamonds in the rough as much as
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  Speaker 2: you have to look at some of the builds and
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  Speaker 2: unique captain. So I thought that was a good call
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  Speaker 2: out there as well. Shout out the go Koal Act
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  Speaker 2: Sean Sullivan, Bill benjar Nick says, I can't be the
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  Speaker 2: only one who goes back and watches this Sunday mornings.
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  Speaker 2: I don't rewatch it, Nick, but I even like cut
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  Speaker 2: out my notes where I'm like put it down to
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  Speaker 2: just the first look. I literally ripped that apart so
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  Speaker 2: I can still get some ideas on Sunday. And we
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  Speaker 2: had some good ones there last week. But Djen, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just gonna bring it up here quick. It was a big,
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  Speaker 2: big day for the community, so I want to just
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  Speaker 2: show this off big week, I should say, as a whole.
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  Speaker 2: So let me take Nick's comment down. This was your
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  Speaker 2: post last night. Nice to see our guy Q Smatt
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  Speaker 2: was right behind you, and behind that our guy Jay Bannock.
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  Speaker 2: I shout out to Bannik. There just always crushing it.
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  Speaker 2: And let's go over here. Another big monster night was
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  Speaker 2: this was just last night and NBA and NFL, and
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  Speaker 2: then I added it at the bottom. But we also
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  Speaker 2: had randomly yesterday on the show hoop title of myself,
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about FanDuel DFS and I always make the
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  Speaker 2: joke the fan sucks for Showdown, But lately we've seen
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  Speaker 2: some big you know, solo ships and and who goes yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the guy last night won it with one hundred k
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  Speaker 2: up top, and then just randomly in our discord, if
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  Speaker 2: I can go through here and find it, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's right Where did that go?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 2: It's right here. Randomly just pops in, you know, yesterday
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  Speaker 2: at eleven fifty am, goes I took this down on
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  Speaker 2: FanDuel last night, and it's the one hundred k solo
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  Speaker 2: chop from the night before. And that was on top
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  Speaker 2: of the weekend that we had with college football. Shout
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  Speaker 2: up to our guy Nick who's out there right now,
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  Speaker 2: twenty k. We had the winner of the flagship college
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  Speaker 2: football for fifty K. We had one hundred k for
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  Speaker 2: Steve jam, one hundred dollars single entry into one hundred
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars, first ever big time score like that, ninety
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  Speaker 2: two thousand for our guy Kenny w And then you
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  Speaker 2: saw it in the discord too, right, just all these
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  Speaker 2: insane rois that people are finding two hundred bucks into
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  Speaker 2: twelve k and whatnot, so huge huge week over at
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  Speaker 2: the nation. Any thoughts on that stuff. It just keeps going.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I want to be that guy that
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  Speaker 3: just wakes up and sees one hundred thousand doll on
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  Speaker 3: my account and didn't even realize it.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I want to be that guy like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's nice.
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  Speaker 2: Let me be that guy on FanDuel. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: I just found this chet out to our guy Marley
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  Speaker 2: been on fire in the showdown streets last night. The
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  Speaker 2: second best lineup still worth eleven k. It was a
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  Speaker 2: pretty unique setup we had there and just somebody else
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  Speaker 2: got there that I think it was. First was unique,
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  Speaker 2: second was unique. Sorry, had the third best lineup and
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  Speaker 2: it was chopped but less chocked. So it's still worth
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  Speaker 2: almost twelve thousand bucks. So congrats to Marley and just
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  Speaker 2: a ton of other good winners out there. If you
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  Speaker 2: guys want to get in on the action, you can
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  Speaker 2: still get in a ton of different promos going on.
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  Speaker 2: I'll run through them quickly, but most of them are here.
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  Speaker 2: You can use vf fifty. We extended it for Cyber
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  Speaker 2: Monday and just let it stay turned on. It is
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  Speaker 2: first month half price off all access. So you saw
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  Speaker 2: the NBA winners last night, to a bunch of NBA
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  Speaker 2: winners in the streets there. But the rest of football
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  Speaker 2: does include does include college football, whether you have it
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  Speaker 2: or don't. If you have it, in your state. It's
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  Speaker 2: an added bonus if you don't, it's still only ninety
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  Speaker 2: nine bucks for all of the rest of NFL right
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  Speaker 2: through Super Bowl or one twenty nine. If you want
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  Speaker 2: to get on the action there with the ship and
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  Speaker 2: again you can see it here. If you want the tutorials,
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  Speaker 2: go there. Last one. We're gonna review the Big Guy
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  Speaker 2: winner from last week before we get to the first
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  Speaker 2: look and just real quick on my X right now,
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  Speaker 2: and I reposted it on ship at Nation if you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna go see all those other winners and whatnot. The
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  Speaker 2: link is there. Fifteen hundred entries completely rake free five
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  Speaker 2: dollars five max. Let's get into it. DJs.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, while we're pushing it, I want to tell you
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  Speaker 3: I got a big surprise coming for all the PGA people,
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  Speaker 3: because you know, you know, you got to know eighty
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  Speaker 3: percent of the people that are gonna watch this also
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  Speaker 3: follow us for PGA, So big surprise coming. Already working
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  Speaker 3: on it with my team. We will have it out
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  Speaker 3: by the new year. You're gonna love it, trust me,
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be special. All announced later this month.
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  Speaker 2: Things we love to absolutely hear. And also you and
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  Speaker 2: I are going to be working over the next week,
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  Speaker 2: I think just to pick up a couple different shows
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  Speaker 2: that we're gonna do. What are we calling them primers,
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  Speaker 2: PGA primers.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that, get them ready, bust up them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're gonna have some some content coming your
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  Speaker 2: way when it comes to that as well. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we've got everything and more covered over here. Our guy
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  Speaker 2: Lee Aldrick, even on the off weeks, like the Hero
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  Speaker 2: this week, he's still out there grinding the streets and
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  Speaker 2: putting that stuff in the disc We'll have all the
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  Speaker 2: Showdown coverage. And we talked about a little bit Yester
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  Speaker 2: Idy know it's a football show, but just you know
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  Speaker 2: about the people with the projections around the industry, like
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  Speaker 2: Showdown projections are all of a sudden just carbon copy
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  Speaker 2: of the main slate when there's like a completely different
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  Speaker 2: wave edge on Saturday Round three and you know, can't
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  Speaker 2: Land Xander will be in the worst of it by
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  Speaker 2: a mile. Yet they just have their same projection as
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  Speaker 2: the original projections and versus what we're doing is obviously
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  Speaker 2: totally different. Sweaty, sweaty tryhards in the back end changing
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  Speaker 2: it up. So anything else to add on that if
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  Speaker 2: you got it.
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  Speaker 4: No, I just no, one will work harder and we will.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think we already were widely considered to
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  Speaker 3: have the best ownership and projections. I can assure you
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  Speaker 3: that will only be better in twenty twenty five with
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  Speaker 3: some nicer tools, with another nice tool in addition to
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  Speaker 3: the Stone, which is always improving.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you speaking my language? Yeah, all right, let's get
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  Speaker 2: into the NFL. First. Look, this was the winner last week.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, two totally unique lineups. Just got
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  Speaker 2: to shout this out. Iceirega or I Siriga came in
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  Speaker 2: first and second with two unique lineups, so pretty good
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  Speaker 2: job on a tough week. And this was what they
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  Speaker 2: had for the winner though, was Bryce Young with Adam Thielen.
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  Speaker 2: It had Evans and Bucky on the run back. Then
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  Speaker 2: it had Kamara, Chase Brown ate the chalk at running back.
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  Speaker 2: It had Lad McConkey lower owned and our big guy
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  Speaker 2: than other places. You know. Interesting to note Evan Ingram
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  Speaker 2: and then who's stuck up for his quarterback last week?
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  Speaker 2: I know that hurt you a little bit. And then
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks the opposite side of the Jets. Funny enough, both
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  Speaker 2: sides got there. The Jets had a little bit more.
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  Speaker 2: I think they had eighteen, but it was still or sixteen,
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  Speaker 2: but it was still good on both sides.
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  Speaker 3: Thoughts on this lineup, I mean, the chalk got there
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  Speaker 3: last week, So thinking you can avoid all the chocolatet
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  Speaker 3: NFL and find success, it just ain't gonna be the case.
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  Speaker 3: The key is which chalk is acceptable to eat and
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  Speaker 3: which one are you going to try to fade and
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  Speaker 3: playing that game as part of the most important thing
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  Speaker 3: of having success at the NFL. And it looks like
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  Speaker 3: most of the chocky played got there and then he
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  Speaker 3: got a little bit different with the Bryce Young feeling connection,
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  Speaker 3: which I love because that definitely delivered. And if you
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  Speaker 3: can just get a cheap stack, you can eat a
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  Speaker 3: lot of choka elsewhere and still be quite a bit
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  Speaker 3: different and ship these things.
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  Speaker 2: This has to be a higher feel and number than
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  Speaker 2: the industry too. Are our people all in on the
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  Speaker 2: feeling pivot from the David Moore chock at thirty five hundred,
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  Speaker 2: just moving it up to Adam Thielen, so shout out
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  Speaker 2: to that and then yeah, just put it together in
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  Speaker 2: a different way, you know, Bryce Young in a skinny
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  Speaker 2: stack and then being able to still run two bucks
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  Speaker 2: on the other side, and you know you save the
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  Speaker 2: money from Baker and you use that somewhere else to
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  Speaker 2: bump up your lineup. Really nice build overall, So congrats
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  Speaker 2: to you. Obviously gets the shipper for eight thousand bucks.
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  Speaker 2: Let's pull it up though, Let's get into this week.
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  Speaker 2: We've got ten games. I think it's our same what
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  Speaker 2: seven three split that we're used to. So the afternoon's
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  Speaker 2: got the Seahawks, Cardinals, the Bills, Rams, the Bears, forty
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  Speaker 2: nine ers who will be a talking point this week
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  Speaker 2: for sure, to round out the slate. But let's go
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  Speaker 2: back up to the top and start it off. This
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: is the stone over at ship a nation best tool
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  Speaker 2: in DFS. I mean, you credited it last night. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just a simple man with a simple process. I use
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  Speaker 2: the best tool in DFS, the stone, and let the
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  Speaker 2: juices flow. And we're gonna let the juices flow here again.
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  Speaker 2: Previewing the week fourteen first look, let's start it off
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  Speaker 2: Jets at the Dolphins first look. First thoughts on this one, Djen, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean, how many times I got say this when the
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  Speaker 3: Dolphins are at home? Like I almost will always set
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  Speaker 3: a rule that my lineup must contain at least one
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  Speaker 3: dolphin in it. That just someone's going to go off
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  Speaker 3: that implied twenty six point total. There's just no way
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  Speaker 3: that a Chan or Hill or Waddle or John and
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  Speaker 3: one of them is not going to have a big game.
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  Speaker 3: The key is trying to pick out which one, And I, honestly,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'm never a two stat kind of guy,
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  Speaker 3: but I, depending on what we see the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the slate, I might consider it this week because the
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  Speaker 3: guy he plays really well down there, and you know
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  Speaker 3: the Jets they kind of suck and I like playing
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  Speaker 3: people against the Jets.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're pretty dune. They seem pretty done at least,
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  Speaker 2: or cooked, if you will. But just to note, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're still waiting on the big Tyreek week, right, So
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  Speaker 2: seventy one hundred bucks there, A Chan is the one
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  Speaker 2: with the matchup. You look at the stone right here,
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  Speaker 2: rush defense d grade over there. It's not the best,
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  Speaker 2: so you can run all over them. They are six
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  Speaker 2: and a half point favorites at home. He does get
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  Speaker 2: a ton of work regardless of games. Big price jump though,
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  Speaker 2: But that I was just going there so you read
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  Speaker 2: my mind. Eighty two hundred. So I guess that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of the question how it's gonna shake out because if
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  Speaker 2: you know again, and we'll look at the whole slate
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  Speaker 2: as a first look. Got so why we do this?
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  Speaker 2: But you saw last week right with like, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you were playing the Jacksonville side, So I guess. But
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  Speaker 2: Mixon was what was he eight K last week? And
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  Speaker 2: I think he came in he got a little late
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  Speaker 2: steam more than we We had him around twelve or
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  Speaker 2: thirteen percent. I think he came in at seventeen or eighteen,
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  Speaker 2: so he did get some late steam. But that's also
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  Speaker 2: because more people got comfortable with a thirty five hundred
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  Speaker 2: dollars David Moore, So it's not like they got much
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  Speaker 2: on the back end once he got just his nine points.
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  Speaker 2: In the higher state stuff, you can get away with it,
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  Speaker 2: but in the larger field tournaments it was tougher. I
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  Speaker 2: think these eight K price tags are harder to get
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  Speaker 2: to on these running backs right now because you just
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  Speaker 2: have so many guys that come into that seven K
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  Speaker 2: and below range. So we'll see as the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the slate goes on. But I like this call. I
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  Speaker 2: like the Miami side. I guess The only thing that's enticing,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm pretty dumb with the Rogers stuff, but is
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  Speaker 2: if you did land on, I mean the runbacks. So
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: what makes the two a thing you mentioned, you know, interesting,
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  Speaker 2: is I'm still okay with DeVonta Adams at sixty seven
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  Speaker 2: hundred or Wilson at sixty six. It's not exciting, but
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  Speaker 2: it makes sense and it's gonna fit the game script.
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  Speaker 2: So I'd be more than comfortable landing there if I did.
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  Speaker 4: And I would be careful with Breecee Hall.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I watched a lot of him last week
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  Speaker 3: and there was a lot more Braylan Allen, so I
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  Speaker 3: think that that soft tissue bullshit injuries are probably going
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  Speaker 3: to keep him more around like sixty five percent of
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  Speaker 3: the plays, and you're usually paying for Bryce Breese because
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  Speaker 3: he gets like eighty percent of the play So keep
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  Speaker 3: an eye out for that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, checking it out here, Kenny says, happy, Happy, double
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  Speaker 2: tight end. We'll see as we go along. If it's
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  Speaker 2: a double tight end week, I guess John hu Smith
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  Speaker 2: by the way up to fifty three hundred if they
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  Speaker 2: think people keep chasing now, And I know you've been
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  Speaker 2: making fun of that ownership for quite a while, and
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  Speaker 2: he somehow continuously seems to get there. But now fifty
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  Speaker 2: three hundred it's a bit.
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  Speaker 3: Much, right, I mean that's steep. I mean he's getting
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  Speaker 3: into that elite pricing. But when you look at his
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  Speaker 3: results and basically how he's become their new Wattle, it's
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  Speaker 3: almost like makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of suck, No, they suck. That's easy, So shut
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  Speaker 2: out to take down there. And then Bryan, congrats I
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  Speaker 2: saw on the discord this morning, maybe it from last night,
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  Speaker 2: maybe from this morning, I can't remember. I think was
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  Speaker 2: seventy five hundred bucks. So congrats to Bryan nice ROI
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  Speaker 2: there as well, So that's huge, love to see that.
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: We were talking pre show dj in about this you
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  Speaker 2: know this player, and now we come to the spot
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  Speaker 2: right away. It's the Falcons at the Vikings, still waiting
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  Speaker 2: on a big Justin Jefferson game. By the way, too,
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  Speaker 2: we just had this conversation about Tyreek, but Jefferson has
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  Speaker 2: not been able to find a twenty eight or thirty
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  Speaker 2: type point game yet that we've seen. And Bijon on
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  Speaker 2: the other side is who we were talking about. So
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  Speaker 2: talk to me about Bijeon talking me about this game.
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  Speaker 2: How do you see this one playing out?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I just feel like every week Beijon, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: what am I missing here? Like he was sixteen percent
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  Speaker 3: last week and he was my highest six most player,
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  Speaker 3: And I just don't get why people don't want to
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  Speaker 3: play Bijon. He gets like elite usage. He is an
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  Speaker 3: elite talent and he delivers. I mean he's got to
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  Speaker 3: have what out of the last six weeks, I would
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  Speaker 3: bet five of them has been over twenty five points
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  Speaker 3: and he's almost always sub twenty percent, and he like
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  Speaker 3: his he has a floor of like eighteen, And I
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  Speaker 3: just don't get why people are not playing him like
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  Speaker 3: they play these other guys. So I hope people just
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  Speaker 3: continue to stay off Beijon. I think he's he outproduces
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  Speaker 3: what he should be owned every single week.
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  Speaker 2: Any thoughts on this? So I had a topic of
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  Speaker 2: discussion and discord this more, and I want to bring
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  Speaker 2: this up now because he's using the stone. It's using
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: everything we've got over at ship Nation and then some
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: of your thoughts just to tie into it. But I
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: think that's what people need to realize, right, Like you
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: use this tool a ton, I use this tool a
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  Speaker 2: ton in all sports, and for example the grade here like, oh,
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: but it's not a good matchup on the ground. Well,
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: one you got to deep dive and see who did
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: the Vikings play against for running backs, But two doesn't.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: Just the usage alan and the ability and the and
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: the superstar running back that you're up against outweigh the
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: matchup for you pretty much every time, especially if it
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: means it's coming with a fair price in the ownership. Yeah.
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, plus I go over and I look at
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: his targets. He's averaging five targets a game. That's a
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: way for him to get a lot of points right there.
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: I mean that right there is almost you know, if
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: he's getting five targets a game, you can probably bet
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: that that's going to get him a ten point floor
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: right there alone. Right and their dogs, and he gets
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: to play almost all of the third down work when
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: they're dogs out of the backfield. So a seven or
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: eight target game isn't out of line for him. And
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: if they get behind, the script only benefits Beijon even more.
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: They get away from Algiear, so I like him even more.
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: And a script where they are five point dogs.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but but but Tyler Algier you just talked about
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: it's always the same thing that's baked in. It's priced him.
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: We know they're gonna end it. But honestly, I think
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: it was like just last week where you didn't. I
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: said to Knaid's in the discord, because we always makes
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: fun of this, and we talked about on the takedown breakdown,
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: what do you know they don't try and jam Tyler
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: algieer for once and Vijon takes two runs and jams
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: it in and one was from further out, gets the
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: first down, gets first run the next play, jams in
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: the touchdowns, Like that's what they've learned and that's what
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: they're moving towards. Doesn't mean it's always gonna happen that way,
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: but I do think that is pretty interesting. So I
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: like that call. That's why I wanted to bring it
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: up anything on the Viking side. I know Aaron Jones
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: disappointed some people last week, even though he did eventually
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: get a touchdown and get in the box, but he
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: started so slow. A lot of us, myself included, did
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: want to make justin Jefferson happened last week. We thought
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: it was gonna be the week. Is there any potential
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: or possibility here with it being like Cousins versus Darnold,
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: maybe just a bunch of throwing back and forth that
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: we could see the game out of Jefferson finally at
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: seventy eight hundred.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, the problem is that the Vikings their pace
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: has slowed way down. Part of the reason justin Jefferson
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: doesn't have that big game is they just don't run
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: enough plays, right. And you know, like if I'm playing
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: the Vikings this week, I actually think I would lean
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: more towards like Addison. He's his biggest games of coming home,
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: and I like that fifty three hundred dollars price tag,
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: and he seems to get more of the home run balls.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: And if you know, we're gonna have a game with
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: fewer plays because at the pace, I think I would
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: rather have the bigger upside Addison bombs than I would
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: the the you know, the twelve yard curls that Jefferson
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: catches all days.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the price is nice too, So if you
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: got even if you want to do like the Bijon
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Addison secondary stack, that's more than fine. I know, like
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: a two touchdown Addison day means a lot for Donald.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: It would obviously look pretty good and be helpful. So
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: if you want to go that route, I'm not against it,
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: but I don't hate it when you're just looking at
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: price plays and the reasoning that you gave to roll
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: out Addison there and go from there.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: And I'm never a big fan of paying over six
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars for a quarterback that offers zero rushing upside,
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: like Sam Donald. Like I feel like Sam Donald should
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: be fifty two hundred. That's my opinion about it.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: You should probably priced like Derek Carr fifty one hundred
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: because that's kind of the same type of thing, right,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: So let's use that. Let's go to Derek Carr here.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: We got the Saints Kamara little bit of a price
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: bump up to eight thousand this week going up against
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: the Giants. Here, that's, you know, popping off the stone
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: at the beginning is the rush defense we know Kamara
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: talking about, you know, Bijon earlier gets the targets. Now
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Taysom Hill out for the season, right, and who knows
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: hell long? I mean this, that's a bad injury for him,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: and so tough to say what happens there, but for
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: at least for what we know for going into this week,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Marc haz Valdez scantling. I don't put him in the
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: same bucket as Nick Westbrook Aikine just because we have
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: talked about it since it happened. It is more of
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: like the Shaheed role, So at least I can somehow
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: validate that in my mind versus the same play to
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Westbrook Akine every time. But how are you handling the
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Saints team? And then what's your thoughts over on the
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Giant side with all the stuff they've got going on?
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know the Giants what it's a couple
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: of their stud defenders are out for the season, So
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: that actually kind of, you know, makes me think that
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: their defense, which has actually been reasonably solid this year,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: may not be as good.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: The passers may not be as good.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: And now with Derek Carr and not having to worry
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: about Taysom Hill Vulture and all his uh, you know, touchdowns,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Derek Carr might be a pretty sneaky play at quarterback.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Problem is, who the hell do I stack you with?
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean, like Kamara, I guess
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: and mvs. But like that's so predictable. But I will
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: say Derek Carr is a guy with a decent total
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: playing a Giants team that is pretty ban bandaged up
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: right now. Could be, you know, could be the guy
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: that gets you three touchdowns and like, you know, maybe
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: get lucky, you get three hundred yards out of him
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: because you don't have Taysom Hill stealing, you know, vulturing
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: his touchdowns and.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Whatnot anything at all on the Giants side.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think elite neighbors is always is always game.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: It's just I don't know that Drew Locke is good
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: enough to lock in and get neighbors the twelve targets.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: He needs to kind of get there.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's what's crazy about it.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: You know, for concerned, I need I need somebody who
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: knows how to get neighbors the ball. That was the
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: one thing that old Danny Dimes could do is get
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: neighbors the ball. I don't know that Locke has that ability.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: And they didn't believe us. It was last week's First
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Look show when we said Danny Dimes to the Vikings.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: They said, no way in hell. Even the comments had
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: people calling it out and sure enough, where to end
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: up the Vikings. So interesting. Yeah, I don't have too
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: much to add on this one. I guess the car
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: one I'll keep. I bookmarked it here, I wrote it down.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I'll need more convinced or more you know, thoughts as
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the week goes on. But I guess it is what
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: you said. It could be like the old school speaking
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: of the Saints just in general. It could be like
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: the old school Drew Brees, where he would just get
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Kamara and Mike Thomas to drag him along, and it's
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: like he didn't really do that much. They did everything,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: but the past came from him. Therefore it turns into
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: this Juwan Johnson the chat asked about with no taste.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: You think about that one?
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like that guy. I've just been waiting
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: on him to be good for three years and he
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: never has been. So like, I'm getting tired of waiting.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Like he just everybody's always talked about, you know, like
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: what a physical freaky is, and he just it just
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: doesn't convert into fantasy points.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: You know who else people said that about and now
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: it does convert into fantasy points is David and Joku.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: And look at him now with Winston in there. It's
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: just insane. The guy's an absolute beast. We've been waiting
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: for this. You know, did someone posts the thing of
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: him last night when he comes to the stadium with
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: the fur coat on and the mask after he burned
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: himself and everything. He's just a beast man. It's crazy.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: But finally getting to see him on leash. So I
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: thought that was interesting. I think I saw yesterday. Just
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: quick note on the Giants, didn't I think Theo Johnson
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: hit the he hit the ir.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: He gone for the year. Yeah, I think it was
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: him and Dexter Lawrence.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I think I saw, and I thought maybe one other
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: defender because I remember thinking, Dan, that's a lot of
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: that's a lot of injuries for the poor Giants who
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: already sucked balls.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah I got I got Dexter and Theo on my list.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that is interesting to note. So just
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: keep that in mind. But let's move on. Let's go
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: to the Panthers at the Eagles and Philly gets their turn. Now, right,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: we've seen these teams going up against the Panthers. It
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: is a twelve point home favorite with almost a thirty
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: point implied team total going up against these Panthers. Do
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: we run Bryce Young back again at fifty two or
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: what do we do here.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, first of all, that seems like a
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: really big line for how decently well the Panthers are
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: playing right like, I mean like they're they're playing real
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: football right now. Yeah, people are gonna chase that Bryce Young,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: and he actually kind of seems to be a thing,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: but this just seems like a real bad spot for him,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Like this could get out of hand real quick. But
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: if they're gonna play tough, I mean, you do gotta
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: love the runback options. I would avoid DeVonta Smith for
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: one more week. You know, I was really surprised he
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: wasn't activated this week. I figured he would kind of
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: play a limited but he didn't. So lets me know that,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: like the hamstring, I think is what it is is
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: nag getting pretty bad. And you do not want to
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: play a guy like that with those twitchy muscles that
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: has a bad hamstring. So you know, now you're looking
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: at a nine thousand dollars Saquon or an eighty one
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars a J.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Brown.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: You know, as much money as you may save with
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Bryce Young, you're gonna spend on the run back. So
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: keep that in mind with this game.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a I don't like we haven't had too
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: many nine k's right this season, because even when.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: You know, people were like twice twice.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was just trying to think of that.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: But I guess that's the you know, the one note
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: as as value comes up, this is certainly going to
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: be a spot that people want to land. You got
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: to kind of think of it a couple of ways.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I guess, like it's the obvious one is if it's
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: you know, Barkley. The obvious result if it's not Barkley
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: is going through the air and it's like you said,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: it's Hurts, it's brown, and then you just cut it off.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: There don't even need a run back if you don't
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: want one, but there is certainly options if you do.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: But then isn't there a world too You've talked about
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: this in the past where it just could get completely
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: spread out and sort of because of price. Price matters
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: as well, like what if Barkley gets you one hundred
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: and one in a touchdown, how much does that really
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: help versus being nine thousand dollars? You know with Jalen
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Hurts seventy eight hundred if he vultures it from Barkley,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: that hurts him, But then how much does it if
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: he's almost eight k, and then how do you put
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: it all together? Any just quick thoughts on that before
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: you move on.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just I think a lot of people
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: forget like just multipliers, like you need these guys usually
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: to win a GPP, typically to get you at minimum
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: three X and preferably four X. And you know, for
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Saquon to do that, he's gonna have to get well
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: into the thirties. And you can't just assume thirty point
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: weeks because that's almost certainly going to be a two
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: touchdown week or a double bonus kind of week, or
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: you know, at least one bonus with a whole bunch
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: of receiving yards. So you know, you gotta be careful
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: of that, because he could put up twenty three points,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: which would be a nice week, and not even come
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: close to paying off what you need for that nine
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars you spent on him.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. One thing that seemed light too, is his target,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: say for nine thousand, Like you're looking at.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Less than three a game on average this season.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So this you know, this is Spencer Smith and
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: the chatters is this game is an xot. I bet
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: you not a lot of people think like that. But
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: yet I tend to why I brought that up, and
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: not that I tend to agree necessarily, it's it's only Tuesday.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying I could definitely see a scenario where
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: that's the case. And that's all I wanted to talk
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: it through, because that is something. And even when you
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: look at the Hurts aj Brown combination you talked about,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: which I'm fine with, you know, you look at that one,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: You're looking at sixteen k give or take, and that's
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: you know, you're still gonna need what almost fifty points
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: to feel pretty good about that out of the two
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: of them. Is it possible? Absolutely, look at the two
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: we're talking about, but it's not something you can just
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: hand them on a platter and say that's the case.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: So it is really interesting this spot for the.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Points for the floor, that would be the floor of
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: what you would probably need for them. And I think
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I think we'll color the stone. This will probably be
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: colored blowout potential because you do got to worry that
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: this game doesn't even have a fourth quarter because the
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Eagles are up twenty eight to three.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: You do got to keep that in mind.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you get over to ship a Nation and
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: get the stone, highly recommend it. We just changed the
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: color code at the top here so you'll see right
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: now everything has no designation. But we've had a really
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: good season targeting the well picking let's do it this way,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: picking the target games in purple and calling out the
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: sneaky games in pink where they actually turn out to
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: be the ones that are necessary and needed on the slate.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: So it makes it very easy. You got your grades here,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: the optimal versus the leverage, so you could see that
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: was one thing last week too, and I know, you know,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: like let me talk about it from this perspective because
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: we're gonna go to the Browns and Steelers here in
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: a second. But I just want to get your opinion
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: on this, because again, the inventor of the stone and
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: creator of all this and bring it over in the merger,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: we're lucky to have all this for the members over
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: at ship in Nation. I just want to say though,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: like the optimal is based on the projection points, then
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: it's simulating it against this current slate at hand, with
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: the salaries at hand and what's expected and what you
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: can build and do with it. Last week, Chase Brown
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: was thirty three percent optimal. After him, was Kamara at
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: twenty one percent. After Kamara was I think it was
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Bucky at like fourteen point eight. So just a note,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: and I know you weren't again if you're fading Chase
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Brown because of ownership, that's fine, because you know you're
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: fading him because of ownership. You know what you're getting
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: yourself into. But do you ever look at that stuff
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: on the stone? Like That's one of the things I
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: incorporated into my process where I'm like, Okay, good shock
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: versus bad shock. I can especially in higher dollars, smaller field,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I feel good about Chase Brown. He's gonna be like
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: sixty percent in there. A lot of people have him already.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna kill me, but it's I'm looking at
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: the other options and it actually as well. There feels well.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: It felt like there was a lot of options. It
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: dropped off pretty quickly for the optimal rates. Any thoughts
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: on that, Yeah.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: I mean the Chase Brown wasn't near as gross as
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: the Panthers wide receiver. Everybody was getting on right, Like,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: there's there's different levels of grossness and like to me,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: looking at that leverage, you know, how often they show
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: up in the optimal versus how much they're gonna be owned.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: You know, using that leverage, to me is a great
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: way to kind of value how how ridiculous are people
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: being with this guy? And you know, the more guy
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: just got ridiculous, So I just got off of him.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: I was like, we'll build different somewhere else. So yeah,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I think that that for me, part of my process
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: is definitely looking at that.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that call. And you know, we had
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: this when it was a booty that week, the first
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: week when everyone's like, you're just creating a it was
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: a creative player value play because it's they're not really
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: in the best spot. They're cheap, sure, but there's a
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: bunch of cheap receivers. Why are they the one? And
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: that was kind of the same situation last week. We
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: knew Cocher was out, so sure, but again, it's not
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: like this was a guy that we were all super
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: high on playing David Morrell season that now here's here's
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: big his big shot or his big chance. So definitely
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: another way and even you know, Takedown says, I've got
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: to learn how to use the stone better. That's what
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: it's all about. Brother. We want to keep getting better
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: working on our game, and that's part of it. The
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Stone is a great tool to have under your belt.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Brown's at the Steelers thoughts on this one. We just saw,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: you know the man the Stone does another thing. Last week.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I said it on the Sunday Show. I was like,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: the only thing that does I do trust the Stone
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: and it's been very good to me. So I said,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: you know what it does. I can't. I can't get
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: onto the Steelers here. But it was so condensed. It
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: was just play it with Pickens, play it with Friar Mooth,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: even Nasee if you wanted to do something crazy. But
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I was like, there's not many guys there and it
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: made sense to me. But I couldn't get to that
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: spot this week. Where do you think people go here?
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Steelers home to the against the Browns.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, this feels like a sneaky game to me.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: But you know, like anytime Jamis is in one in
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: a game, it almost always feels sneaky to me. Right
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: the guy is, he'll throw the ball around, and we
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: saw just last week the Steelers can't give up some
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: yarders to do the passing game. And if you think
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: that Joe Burrow is just infinitely better than Jameis Winston
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: had thrown the ball down the field, you're wrong. I mean,
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Jameis Winston can fucking throw the ball and he doesn't care.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: And I think that, like this could be a game
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: where they possibly, you know, it could shoot out, or
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: the Browns could get behind and Jamis could just come
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: out throwing it all around. And the best part is
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: is they have a really really concentrated passing tree right now.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: It's basically just Judy, Moore Nadjoku. Like those three guys
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: are getting about eighty percent of the target share. So
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: if you do want to run Winston, you have a
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: super cheap stackable guy, and I think he's a double
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: stackable dude, and you're, you know, all of a sudden,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: you're getting a really cheap double stack in and you've
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: got Steelers to run it back with Pickens, Friar move
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: people like that.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the question from Nick, is how Shocky
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: will get because both these guys had really good weeks.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: You see on the stone, even the pace they have
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: been letting Russ cook Tom, you know, lets him chuck
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: it around it's worked out as of late. And obviously
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: we just saw what Jamis did last night. The stacking
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: pieces seem easy there. It's just interesting to me because.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Forty three point team total, it's not gonna get crazy
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: popular with a forty three point team total our game total.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I tend to agree. And the only thing I wonder
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: is because there's multiple combination pieces. Right. So, we just
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: had the AFC North battle of Pittsburgh at Cincy that
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: broke the slate, which is what it literally was a hunt.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm a sample sized guy. That was a
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: fifty years one hundred plus games of sample. That was
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: the highest scoring first half I think they said of
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: those games ever or maybe the total game as well.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: And then you saw the Browns last night. Now you
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: get another AFC North battle, but this one could disappoint
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: because of that. But they do both have a pretty
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: good pace condensed offenses. You could see where this could work.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: But we'll have to wait and see as the week
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: goes on. If it ends up a sneaky game, I
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: would definitely have some interest in both sides. Should note
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: just back on the previous game the chat mentioned as well.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Week to week on Dallas Goddard. So I guess if
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm still not ever super high on Calcatara.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I just you know, is he gonna do enough for
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: you on a slate? We haven't really seen it, so
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: any quick thoughts on that. If Goddard was to be out.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would like AJ Brown Moore.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: He would be the one I went from the Eagles
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: in that case, just because I'm telling you DeVonta Smith,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: I'd be worried about limited load or not being as
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: explosive as normal.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: So it's like, who's left a pass catcher? It's just
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: AJ Brown? Yeah.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I like the AJB call just there because of that.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: So we'll move on. Let's go to the Raiders at.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: The Bucks sneaky game Peel sneaky.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, I'll let you talk
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: about this one. I know there's some there's always some
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Baker love kicking around. Obviously, we just saw what Bucky
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: did again even getting injured and coming back and Evans,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: et cetera. But what about the other side, Aidan O'Connell.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like he looked great last week, like
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: and if he's gonna play like that, you basically know
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Brock Bowers and Jacoby Myers are gonna be his dudes,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: He's gonna throw it to and they got a twenty
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: point team total. The Bucks have not been playing as
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: good a defense as they were earlier in the season.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: It seems like all their games are twenty seven to
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: twenty four. You start letting the Raiders get to twenty
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: four points. A O'Connell stacks look pretty nice, and the
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Bucks have some of the best running backs because Irving
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: is Bucky's coming up as a star. You know, Evans
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: is gonna get like three or four red zone targets,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: and I think people are forgetting that. Kate ott And
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: is still probably a top seven Fantasy tight end out there,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: and I feel like he's due for a sneaky good
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: week and could be part of one of those double
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: tight end stacks that our boy was that Kenny earlier
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: talking about.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he loves it. That's how I brought it up.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: He's a He called it last week in our discord
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: over at Triper Nation. He said, you know, enjoy the
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Bryce Young winning someone a million bucks this week, guys,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: and not many listened. And the five fifty five million
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: maker winner was Bryce Young, and he couldn't get to it.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: But he still had himself a big week. He played
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: the Baker side of that game and got some nice
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: little run out there with Bucky, Irving and Evans down
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: the stretch that he wanted. So congrats to him he had.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I think it was eighty two thousand or ninety two
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: thousand on the week, So big week for Kenny. But
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: this is interesting. What did you say on the two thoughts?
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I might have missed, but one I know, he said,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: O'Connell and Bowers, Who's do you like any of these
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: wide receivers, particularly that you would quot with him.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: For the Raiders Myers right, Like, Yeah, Bowers and Myers
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: are getting like fifty five percent of the targets. I
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: love that concentrated tree. I wouldn't play any of the
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: other ones, just those two. And I think you could
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: double stack him or just skinny stack either one. Although
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: I will say brock Bower's getting up to sixty five
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: hundred is kind of getting to be elite pricing for
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: tight end.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wondering about that too. Like I think AOC
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: for sure, you could just do a skinny stack and
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: you could run it with like Myers and Aughton on
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: the other side, where most are gonna be looking at
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: some other I think they'll look at other angles. It'd
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: be like O'Connell double stack or O'Connell with Bowers first,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: and then it's gonna be more likely that buckied at
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: just sixty six hundred or Evan's still at a fair
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: price of seventy two, where people feel more comfortable going
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: with that. And there is other ways that you can
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: even mix and match within this game. So I like
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: the idea of having more early on. At least I'm
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: having more stacks around this game so that I can
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: get different combinations. And you've done a good job talking
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: about that in weeks past. Did you see the did
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Jacob hit you up on the one hundred and eleven
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: dollars eleven?
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Max? Yeah?
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: I ilways wondering because you tweeted it literally as he
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: said it to me. I thought, how did Tambo get
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: see this? Whenever I got the dude from DraftKings telling
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: me about it, like literally as it's coming out.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: I really like it.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: It's wepy though too. I'm always checking out that lobby
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: to see but I guess it was one thing I
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: thought it was the payout structure wasn't as ideal, like
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: it was twenty to twenty percent the first but then
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: it did only go like I think it's man, I
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: think it's seven or fifty bucks for tenth.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so like you won't even break even if
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: he finished tenth.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: But but that also wasn't a lot of people in
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: it too, which is nice because something I don't I
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: don't like to play to try to hit the nuts.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: I like to hit pretty good lineups.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: But speaking of which, if you're going to this Jaguars game,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: I literally had two lineups last week finished in the
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: ninety nine percentile that both had Trevor Lawrence with one point.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: So if Trevor Lawrence doesn't get knock the fuck out,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: could have been quite the week because I had him
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: with some Parker Washington, some Brian Thomas, and then I
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: ran it back with either Collins or Joe Mixon. So
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I had some really good lineups there, and Trevor doesn't
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: die on the field. Could have been quite the good
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: week because he was my low own stacked last week.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that it is always a good week,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: like you said it yourself in discord, but it was
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: like it is the truth. When you're getting that kind
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: of money back, it's not ideal. Every was like, wait,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: how would you ever be happy getting only that back?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: But it's like, no, it's not only that. That's everything
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: when the on when you know my guy goes out completely.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I wasn't again, he had a great week, so I
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: don't I mean, everyone has a different process. He wasn't
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: close on my list. I felt like we didn't talk
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: about him last week, so I even picked your brain
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: before the show because I'm always trying to get other
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: concepts and ideas around it. Obviously lots changed here now
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: because they're gonna hold him out forever. There's no sense.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what they'll do. But that
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: was a big shot. So my point being, I wasn't
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: a high on it, but I guess you know, I
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: might have missed it too. So what's your thoughts this
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: week on the Jaguars and then Titan side as well.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: We can save these NWI jokes, like we get it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Everyone knows the joke now about this guy. But it's
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: the same play every week, and last week he was
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: kind of needed at twenty two points or whatever. But
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be rare that that's gonna be the case.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Mac Jones came in with actually throwing the ball down
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: the field quite nicely, like like he actually didn't look
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: that bad. That was why a lot of my lineups
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: were still able to get there, because he was still
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: getting the ball to Ingram, he was still getting the
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: ball to Brian Thomas Junior, he was still getting the
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: ball to Parker Washington, and he came back and they
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: almost won that game. So if mac Jones is going
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: to play like that, you know what. I don't even
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: know his salary. I assume he's probably like forty nine
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: hundred or something last.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Week, so I can't remember what I saw, but I
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: think maybe US offered this week. I can't remember off
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: the top of my head, though, but.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, he could be viable.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: And the Titans are like a team that every week
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: seems to be getting there as far as like scoring
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: some points and keeping games competitive. And you got Pollared,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: you got Ridley, you have God himself, Westbrook, a keen
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: who you know is gonna get a touchdown. This is
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: a This is a game that if you want to
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: get really icky, like you're you're playing in something with
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: ten thousand people in it. I think this is one
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: we could get in and build a cheap stack that
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: nobody's building, and you have cheap runback options, and then
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: you can go play those random studs, like if you
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: want to play the Justin Jefferson or the AJ Brown
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: because you started with this, no one else is going
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: to be on it.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Don't forget this too. The Calvin Ridley Revenge game.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Love a good narrative.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Love love a good narrative. We saw with Jerry.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Judy last week. That was last night, that was part
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: of it, Ye revenge.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: They literally just decided not to guard him at all,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: like he was. There was a guy in the disc
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: or a guy in the YouTube chat yesterday talking about how,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: first of all, it wasn't like we thought Certain was
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: gonna see him the whole game or anything. It's like
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Judy runs in the slot everything too, and where Certain
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: doesn't usually go. But the funny part was like all
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Certain knows his hip movements, so don't play Judy. I
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: was like, that's the moment we all should have known
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: to be all in like.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Tyche, Yeah, the hit.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: That's like at PGA when they said he hasn't picked
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: up a club in two weeks. All right, well, I'm
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: playing that mother father like give me, give me those
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: stupid narratives.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: I'm auto in on it.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Whatever gets people off of it because they're overreacting to
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: something that's like, that's like gold for me to eat up.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. And the other thing too,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I wanted to say with this one is I also
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: think it could be you know, just looking at it
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: here this D minus and I know this guy really
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: disappointed some folks last week. Tony Pollard twenty two points
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: at home, slight favorite. I think you could go back
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: to the well on him and see like it's you know,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: he definitely hurt some feelings last week. I think it
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: would be a spot that he would go back in here.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Obviously some personnel changes and stuff, but in general we
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: could see where it is a bit of a letdown
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: spot for Mac Jones as well. I like your call
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: out if you are using them. One thing I loved
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: that he did last week. You probably saw it because
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: it was painful. He threw a bomb. He overthrew BTJ
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: and they were like damn, like that was it. It
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: was a sixty yard walk in touchdown and then everyone's
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: like the next play is like BTJ and they're like no, no,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: that went over his head. We're like no, no, he
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: literally threw to him for sixty yards. The next play.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: He just didn't get in on that one, but it
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: was like still that was he went right back to it,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: And you gotta love that right out of a guy
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: coming into the game and just nothing to lose.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Jags have nothing to lose and he
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: has nothing to lose. You know, if this is a
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: week I played sixty lineups, he likely will be one
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: of my three quarterbacks. It's a week where I play
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: twenty lineups, he will probably not be one of my
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: one or two quarterbacks. So it'll kind of I'll kind of,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: you know, have to see how the week develops and
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: then determine what contest I want to be, and then
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: I'll pick if I want to go with you know
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: how many stacks?
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and early look here, but just you know, I
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: said jokes aside. Now I gotta ask it because he
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: brought up to God himself. Do you actually think people
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: play NWI here based on sort of how it's been going, Like,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: what do you think his ownership actually gets to it?
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Early thought.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're like I I will not play him
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: if he's over eight percent. I think people are being silly,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: like he literally gets like two targets a game, like
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: he just he can't keep paying him off.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: You know, it's like breaking bad. He can't keep getting
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: away with.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: This or he could using your own words because saying
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: every single week and it's literally the same play.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: It's like you can call it even when he does it.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: It's not like he's breaking the slate. He's basically just
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: doing enough to make sure he wasn't a wasted spot
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: in your lineup, right. It's not like he's going for
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: twenty three points.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Right, So last week was like the first week where
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: he did that's you nailed it. But last week was
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: the only and it also was just a product of
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: who did they play last week? Washington?
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: I think so, I don't know.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I think it was the Jayden Daniel stacks where he
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: ended up and like, see they used him as a
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: runback at as well. At least he can say that
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: out of it. But yeah, it's pretty wild when you
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: see that happening. All Right, We've got three afternoon games
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: and it kicks off with the Seahawks at the Cardinals. Gino, Gino,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Gino g no no is writ in his name. I
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: should just tell myself that and painted on there. But
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Geno Smith JSN D, like, what are you doing here
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: with this game?
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: What's first of all? This game?
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: This strikes me. I have a feeling this will be
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: colored as a chalky game. It just just feels like,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: you know, people love these afternoon games in the Dome
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: against these NFC West teams, So that right there is
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: already going to put me off of it.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: You know, the prices are kind of right, you know,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: JSN Marvin Harrison are about the right price I want
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: to pay to play them. But like part of me
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: is just like I kind of want to stay away
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: from this game. If it's going to be popular, you know,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: maybe grab a piece or two and try to be different.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: But man, the Seahawks. You know, Geno's Kyle Lee.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: I swear it got up so lucky I got in
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: the one week he played well and other than that,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: he's just not that good. Kyler seems to be back
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: like he's in video game mode where he's not really
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: focused and scoring a lot of Fantasy points. There's just
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: not a lot to be excited about here, other than
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Trey McBride, who is like just an absolute animal.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you like Tray McBride at this sixty one
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars price tag or you like Bowers at sixty five?
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, if I had to pick one, give me McBride,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: just because I think that the touchdown variants has to
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: he has to score a touchdown coming up. That streak
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: has to break, Like there's no way you can catch
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: a hundred passes and not get a touchdown in season,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: especially when you're as talented as he is.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: So I was just gonna say this because a game
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: you talked earlier about like even you know, eating up
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: these things that people say and using them to our
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: advantage in DFS. I'll call it right now. Bet the
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: anytime touchdown, it's gonna be the week where he gets
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: you three for thirty and a touchdown and he'd be like,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: but he got the touchdown, but he didn't get the
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: catches in the yards this time, And that's gonna be
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: the way it goes. Just always seems to be something
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: and you can see it. That's my thoughts on this one.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: DK Metcalf. I know it's not showing up here on
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: the stone yet or whatever. So he left the game momentarily,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: but he checked his knee and everything and came back
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: and they think it's all good. So would expect him
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: to be a guy that's good to go here with
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Geno stacks. JSN has really come on lately at sixty
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: three hundred, so it's easy to stack. It's just you know,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: there is enough where he goes elsewhere, by the way,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: So one thing about Geno that has has been a
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: little bit different and why it's not been as good
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: or you know, I play him enough to know this
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: stuff is I used to love that. It was just
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: sort of Tyler Lockett and DK Metcalf and then when
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: JSN started getting in the mix, it was like, all right, well,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Tyler Lockett's kind of done. Let's just go with JSN
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: and DK Metcalf or one of the other. Well like
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: last week, Barner touchdown, drop, touchdown, wide open, like he's
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: going for different dudes when they get down to that
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: red zone. And that's what kind of makes it a
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: little bit trickier and worrisome when you're trying to stack
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: it up, because if you don't get it right. It's
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: great that you're in the right game in the right spot,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: but if you're on the wrong guys, it's not very
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: helpful from that point. And last thing, anything on the MHJ.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Everyone was so tilted over him. The coach speak that
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: he was gonna get the passing offense was going to
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: go through him. People were mad at the half, but
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: he still had seven targets at the half. He just
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: only had like two or three catches. Second half, he
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: gets touchdown, he ends up with twelve targets in the day.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, it really came through and the coach speak enough,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I think. But any thoughts on him at six.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: K, I mean, if I'm not I would be interested
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: in him. If I wasn't so disinterested in this game.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: If I have to pick, I think i'd just go McBride.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I also prefer by the way, two guys
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: like js N Walker, McBride, James Connor even I would
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: rather just pick my pieces in this game to your
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: point early on just first look seeing it that way
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: as well. So I think that's a good call out.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot that you can pick
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: up where it's just you're grabbing the PPR points and
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: moving on or grabbing those points on the ground when
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: lots are trying to go you know, game stack or
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: three ones through the air and that sort of set up.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: So like that call out as well bills at the rams.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: This game's kind of interesting. Big total, right, And just
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: thoughts on this one early on because last week was
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: you know, you still got Kyron Williams at a fair price,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: pook A Cup at their sort of seven K price range,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: the Josh Allen stuff on the other side, any thoughts
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: on this one.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, the first time in a long time, I've
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: considered an expensive quarterback, you know, Josh Allen, Like that
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: guy can get us thirty and pay off that eight
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars price tag.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Problem is, who the hell am I stacking him with?
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: It's like I feel not confident in any of those guys.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Coleman's likely to be back, Cooper still isn't getting an
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: elite role. Shakis always out there, you know, Kincaid, I
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: don't even know what his status is this week.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Yes, he just has too many guys.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: So if I would, honestly, if I were gonna play
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen, I'd almost consider a naked Josh Allen. And
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: for the Rams, I'm just a pook and a CooA guy.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: I play him every week. To me, he's clearly established
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: himself that he's the number one receiver over Cup, and
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: you know, I feel like whenever Cup and the Whoa plays,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: it kind of kills Kim Winton's value. So I find
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: myself always playing Nakua and not much else from the Rams.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was always that the breakfast boys narrative of
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Stafford and Cup, but feels like Niku has been taking
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: them out for steak dinners and Stafford forgot all about
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: that shit. It's like, yeah, well the wine and dying
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: is a little bit better, so I'm gonna keep going
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: back to my boy Nakula. And the price doesn't really
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: change that much. It stays right in that seventy five
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars range. He's that seventy seven hundred. Cup went
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: down a little bit and that went up to Nakula.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: But it's not that much of a delta for one week.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: But we've seen it now for weeks since Niku has
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: been back, So definitely like that call, even if you
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: want to go the Stafford side, I'm okay with it.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: I just I don't love it as much because the
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: price goes up there a little bit. So you mentioned it,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: But like Josh Allen Naked and then Nikoua or something
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: like that, maybe is a way that you could get
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: almost like what's considered a secondary stack, if you can
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: find the value pieces within even though it is your
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: quarterback and an opposite wide receiver. It's a way that
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: you could get different within a game and still get
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: two really nice pieces.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: It wouldn't be a weird if Josh Allen throws for
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: three hundred yards, rushes a touchdown in get you twenty
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: five rushing yards, and then throws two touchdowns to two
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: slap decks like a full back and Dawson knocks right
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: and you really didn't need to stack him at all
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: for him to get you those thirty two points, and
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: he could still end up getting there without taking any
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: other bills with him. So like crazy Josh Naked, Josh
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Allen isn't the craziest thing ever.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: And funny enough, coming off the week he literally did
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: all of those things plus magically threw a touchdown to himself.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: If you remember guys, Magic Guy's magic.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: The hook and ladder. People were mad about that, but
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: it's a rule right when you throw it, when you
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: start throwing it forward, it cannot turn into a rushing
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: play with a forward pass like that. It's just a
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: wild stat and the way it all works out. But
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: that I thought was pretty interesting and crazy stuff after
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: he already ran one in and threw touchdowns and did
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: everything else too. So yeah, I like that call, and
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: I think it was the go collect stit here too. Again, Kyle,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: these pieces are expensive, but it feels like this game
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: goes over. That's what's tricky about some of these spots.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: But if you can see, I guess I'll stop there
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: for two seconds before we go to the final game.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Is going back to the Eagles game. I don't compare
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: them the same way. On the Eagles game, we're saying
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: it could be so one sided and so separated at
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: least how I'm looking at it is. That's where it
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: becomes tricky and then hard to pick it out from
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: the other side. In this game, we kind of know
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: that we think it's gonna go back and forth and
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: involve both sides. You could just get lucky if you
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: don't go crazy and just pick a couple of pieces,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: and then even though other dudes do show up, it's
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: not like anybody else got them all right either, So
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: you just got to get your two or three pieces
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: that you pick and go from there. And you could
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: see that happen here. So I like this game for
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: the afternoon even more than the first game. If you're
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: late swapping. I think it's what you said. I think
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: more people would be on the Geno game and you'd
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: be able to move over here where it's a little
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: bit more uncomfortable, but there's still a ton of options
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: that just could could just naturally end up getting there
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: with some weird builds, So I don't hate that. Last
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: game of the slate is the Bears at the forty
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: nine ers and the big talking point. I don't know
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: the pricing in front of you, but I want to
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: say he's in the five K range, but Isaac Garndo
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: or Grindo, he's in now McCaffrey and Mason both hitting
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: the ir so thoughts on thoughts on this game here
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: at home twenty four point team total.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, Grindo is gonna be wildly popular with this
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: lack of value on the slate. He's gonna be over
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: thirty percent. You can already feel it. Guy's a stud,
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: you know. He's that dude that runs a I think
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: he's the only player to ever weigh in at two
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: thirty and run a four to three or something into combine,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: something insane like that.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: So he definitely has home run ability.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I just I don't know that I'm gonna be able
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: to eat that because I do not like first and
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: second down back chop, and I don't know how involved
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: he'll be in the passing game. I have to see that,
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: But I will tell you the Bears like this. You know,
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Caleb Williams is kind of like turning into a fantasy guy.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Like he's kind of like they're kind of letting Hi
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: play since they got the new OC and you know
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: him and DJ Moore or him in a Roma dunesay
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: or something like that. It just seems like a really sneaky,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: little skinny stack to run against the forty nine ers
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: and could get there.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: So that's something I'll be keeping an eye on.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Could it be like last week when you have Chase
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Brown popular on one side and people are looking for
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: reasons to fade or reason ways to get different and
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: the way to get different is to go to Caleb Williams,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: DJ Moore and something like that and then use Grindo
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: so that way and hope that it goes back and
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: forth and really cut into the product ownership by getting
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: a stack on the opposite side. You think about that, Yeah,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: I mean that's that's the way to use Grindo is
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: using in a correlated stack that nobody's using. I can't imagine,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Kayleb Williams, stacks will be over five percent on this week.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Can's. Yeah?
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: I just I don't even think people remember Thanksgiving. They've
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: already moved on to Monday night football from last night
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: and things like that. But pretty interesting too, Kayleb Williams.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: By the way, that was a rocky start if you remember,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: even in our discord over there, we end up having
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: the second half contest and I think only two people
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: out of like hundreds that said he would break twenty
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: and he ended up with what twenty twenty four or something.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: After having he rallied hard. He rallied hard.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: It was old school Deshaun Watson when he played for
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: the Texans, like does nothing all game, but oh see
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter Daks had games like that as well,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: where they just show up at the end of it,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: And that's pretty interesting for this one because I don't
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: think anyone's considering that at least early on from stuff
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: that I've listened to or heard. So another way to
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: get different in this game with Grinda would be that
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: anything on the passing on, like if Grinda, like you're
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: talking about not being as interested because I'm a first
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: and second down back 're rounding it out anyway, So
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: any interest in any of the passing stack here, just
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: because they are still at home, they are still favorites.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: It is still twenty four points. What do you do
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: to leverage it? If not playing him and if not
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: going Caleb Williams stacks on the opposite side, Well.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: If party's back, I think Juwan Jennings becomes a play
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: at fifty two hundred, right, like the guy's probably gonna
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: get nine to ten targets.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: I think he's fine. George Kittle not so much.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Like if I'm paying fifty eight hundred, I'm gonna find
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: a way to just get to Bowers or McBride there.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Although George Kittle does make thirteen better, I don't know
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: that he really is a great fantasy asset for us
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: at fifty eight hundred, so that's about where I would be.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: And then Deebo Samuel Man, I think that dude maybe
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: a little washed, Like I think we're seeing he's not
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: so great when he doesn't have that perfect efficiency that
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: he's had in the past like two or three years.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been something for sure, and that's kind of thing.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Like we even back to the previous game and you
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: were talking about Amari Cooper and some of these other
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: guys that we've talked about, it just been a tough
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: scene for some of them, even like the Cooper Cup stuff.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: He had a big game last week, but not the
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: most previous but the one before that where but it
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: was one shot down the field that kind of brought
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: those points. If you just have seen some of these
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: guys just lay back a little bit more or not
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: do as much. So it is interesting just to keep
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: an eye on as the season goes on, how that
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: always plays out. We're up to week fourteen now, any
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: other thoughts speaking of Week fourteen, any any final thoughts
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: from you on this slight Now that we've sort of
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: seen the whole thing through all ten games, for the
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: DraftKings main slate.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: Last week of Best Ball.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: I'm glad that there's like six teams on buys and
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: they're teams that I was really light on. So I'm
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: excited to see all my best ball bags hopefully shoot
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: up this last week. So that's what I'll be watching
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: outside of this DFS stuff.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do you got any good ones right now?
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: I mean I'm advancing like twenty percent, which is like
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: a little above average. Hopefully with a good last week,
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: maybe we can jump up to twenty five percent.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: We'll see.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck this week, Bobby says for all those
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: third place Bastball teams. So gonna be keeping an eye
• 47:46
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• 47:49
  Speaker 2: but we'll be all over it. I think that's gonna
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: do it.
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