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Killers Amongst Us: 19-year-old artistic beauty disappears after car found abandoned on bridge. What happened to Sarah Stern? (Part 5) · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here, Welcome back to Killers amongst us,
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Speaker 1: the production of iHeartMedia and Crime Online. Sarah Stern, her
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Speaker 1: car found abandoned late at night on a remote bridge,
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Speaker 1: New Jersey. What you'll hear in this episode is shocking
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Speaker 1: undercover video comes to light. With us again Sarah's dad,
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Speaker 1: Michael Stern, who has fought so much pain to get
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Speaker 1: through this investigation. Also with me, local reporter on the
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Speaker 1: story from the get go, Alex and Poliello with me.
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Speaker 1: Also lead detective on the case, Brian Weisbrott Mama County
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Speaker 1: Prosecutor Christopher GRAMICIONI. Also with us renowned La psychoanalyst doctor
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Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall. Right now, police working under the theories Era
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Speaker 1: did not commit suicide or just run off. That will
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Speaker 1: quickly become a parent as police get a call from
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Speaker 1: a local teen who offers up a suspect on a
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Speaker 1: silver platter. But is it real? Let's pick up the
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Speaker 1: story right now, extend your relationship. I would say, we're
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Speaker 1: pretty close friends. Ever your girlfriend now. Sarah's friends and
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Speaker 1: family portray her as this happy, go lucky girl that
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Speaker 1: never had any reason to say she would hurt herself
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Speaker 1: or hurt someone else, but Liam portrays a different picture.
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Speaker 1: Does she ever talk about like guys or girls? No,
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Speaker 1: she has been known to obsess over girls in the past,
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Speaker 1: though He talks about an ex girlfriend of his, Maggie,
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Speaker 1: who Sarah became obsessed with. She would always say stuff like, Maggie,
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Speaker 1: if you don't come here right now, I'm going to
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Speaker 1: kill myself. During his interview with detectives, Liam also asks
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Speaker 1: them this question, one thing I want to fuck to
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Speaker 1: you guys about by she she did jump off the bridge?
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Speaker 1: What did the odds say? She's not somewhere all the
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Speaker 1: way out? Nancy Grace killers. I'm like Stess, Liam mctasney
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Speaker 1: smiling in Sarah in Michael's face, But what's he doing
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Speaker 1: the rest of the time? Preston Taylor. I can't get
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Speaker 1: a read on Preston Taylor. He seems like the sidekick
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Speaker 1: to Liam mctaznee. So to Detective Brian Weiss, brought you
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Speaker 1: leave with a very uneasy feeling, bad, a bad feeling
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Speaker 1: after you speak to Preston Taylor. Why Well? The information
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Speaker 1: that Preston had provided to us was in essence, completely
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Speaker 1: consistent with what Liam had shared with us, so we
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Speaker 1: were basically left with the same feeling. We didn't know,
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Speaker 1: you know, what happened to Sarah. We didn't know if
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Speaker 1: there was any foul play involved. There were certainly red
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Speaker 1: flags that raised our suspicion, but really really didn't have
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Speaker 1: anything directly in front of us at that point, and
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Speaker 1: our efforts were focused on trying to talk to as
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Speaker 1: main people as we could an effort to find her.
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Speaker 1: Joining me Alex Napoleon, Yellow Crime and Court reporter for
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Speaker 1: Jay dot Com and Star Ledger Alex, how many times
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Speaker 1: have we seen a case or you've covered a case
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Speaker 1: for you just know somebody did it. Let's just take
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Speaker 1: Scott Peterson for example. Okay, we all knew we did it,
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Speaker 1: but there hads to be proof, and then sometimes you're
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Speaker 1: wrong and you get a complete curveball. Have you ever
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Speaker 1: felt that feeling that you know somebody did it, there's
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Speaker 1: just not proof. Yeah, I don't, you know, It's just
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Speaker 1: a feeling you get sometimes when you're covering these cases.
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Speaker 1: From the start, something just doesn't seem right, and although
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Speaker 1: the answer may not be right there in front of
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Speaker 1: you from the beginning, it's just a feeling in the
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Speaker 1: back of your head. You start to look at maybe
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Speaker 1: family members or people close to the victims, and they
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Speaker 1: start showing strange behaviors, acting, acting strange, maybe not showing
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Speaker 1: the emotions that one would expect them to show, and
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Speaker 1: you kind of just know that something's not right. And
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Speaker 1: you know, Christopher Gramicione, veteran prosecutor. Defense attorneys will tell
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Speaker 1: you till they're blue in the face, that doesn't prove anything.
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Speaker 1: What they're right and they're wrong, not anything tangible, but humans.
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Speaker 1: This human specie is thousands and thousands and thousands of
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Speaker 1: years old, and we have instincts, instincts we can't even identify,
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Speaker 1: like when the hair goes up on the back of
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Speaker 1: your neck, or you get chill bumps, or you have
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Speaker 1: a feeling that something's wrong but you don't know why.
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Speaker 1: We call it gut feelings, but it's not a gut feeling.
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Speaker 1: It's based on something you're noticing, maybe something imperceptible. What
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Speaker 1: do you make of these two stories, Nancy, I think
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Speaker 1: it's precisely that there are certain things that as humans,
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Speaker 1: there's certain common sense and understanding of regular and routine
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Speaker 1: things in life that just need detective waste brought pause
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Speaker 1: and say something's not right here, and ultimately need jurors
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Speaker 1: feel the same way. So you're right. I mean, there's
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Speaker 1: certain hunches. Call it what you will. It's just it's
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Speaker 1: a it's like a sixth sense of sort that causes
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Speaker 1: you to maybe look at another investigative step or maybe
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Speaker 1: go in a particular different direction. And speaking of a
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Speaker 1: different direction, months pass, tick talk, tick talk. Every day
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Speaker 1: until this case is solved. Makes it harder to find
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Speaker 1: out what happened? Where is teen girl Sarah Stern. Every
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Speaker 1: minute that passes, witnesses disappear, witnesses pass away, witnesses go
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Speaker 1: on the lamb, evidence is destroyed, evidence is lost. Every
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Speaker 1: day counts. Months begin to pass when just like Alex
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Speaker 1: Napoliello and I were talking a curveball, I didn't know
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Speaker 1: where believe it or not a film director in than
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Speaker 1: two months, and then then a young man in Brooklyn,
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Speaker 1: New York, gold is dad like in Neptune City that
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Speaker 1: he was desperate for some parental advice. His name was
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Speaker 1: Anthony Curry. He was nineteen years old, a high school
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Speaker 1: classmate of Sarah's who'd moved to New York to fulfill
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Speaker 1: a lifelong ambition to make movies. But that night he
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Speaker 1: was very troubled, and when his dad, Eddie heard why,
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Speaker 1: he called Detective Mike Bonano, Land of the family. Very
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Speaker 1: well known Anthony since he was young, and Eddie was
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Speaker 1: concerned that he had some information on this what may
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Speaker 1: have happened to Sarah? I was shocked. Detectives met with
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Speaker 1: Anthony and his dad. The young man told them about
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Speaker 1: a spooky conversation with a mutual friend of his and Sarah's.
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Speaker 1: It took place on Thanksgiving evening, he said, eight days
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Speaker 1: before Sarah vanished. The friend told Anthony a horrifying tale
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Speaker 1: about a plan that he had to rob Sarah of
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Speaker 1: her money and to kill her, strangle her and throw
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Speaker 1: her over the bridge. And how did Anthony take this
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Speaker 1: as a real thing or what? No, he dismissed it.
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Speaker 1: You're hearing from our friends at Dateline NBC. Okay, so now,
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Speaker 1: Christopher GRAMICIONI Detective Brian Wise brought now you're in a
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Speaker 1: conundrum because here's a kid that shows up. He wants
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Speaker 1: to be a film director. He's all about hitting the
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Speaker 1: big time. Do you believe him or do you not
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Speaker 1: believe him? What about a detective? We absolutely believed Anthony Cary.
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Speaker 1: He came across extremely incredible, and more importantly, I think
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Speaker 1: what I took out of the interview with him was
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Speaker 1: that his at the level of, you know, he was
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Speaker 1: very nervous, he was very concerned. He was very concerned
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Speaker 1: about the fact that Liam was attempting to contact him
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Speaker 1: and getting communication with him constantly since Sarah's disappearance. And
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Speaker 1: once we get spoken with him, obviously the first our
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Speaker 1: first step was to determine how we were going to
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Speaker 1: be able to corroborate the information that that Anthony had
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Speaker 1: provided to us. I don't know how you guys did it,
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Speaker 1: but somehow you get this kid, as Anthony Curry, the
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Speaker 1: aspiring film director, to get wired listen, Anthony did get
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Speaker 1: the guy to agree to meet in person. Maybe he'd
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Speaker 1: open up then as Hey, the location, this parking area
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Speaker 1: aside the boardwalk and Bradby Beach, desolate and the dead
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Speaker 1: of winter. Investigators wired up Anthony's car. We do set
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Speaker 1: up the car for audio and video. Was there a
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Speaker 1: little camera in there? There There was a camera in there.
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Speaker 1: But if their suspect was a killer, what might you
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Speaker 1: do to Anthony? If he suspected a trap? So they
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Speaker 1: knew this was dangerous. They too. Anthony's car had some
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Speaker 1: bounciance on either side. We were monitoring everything live. It
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Speaker 1: was just before midnight, but Anthony drove towards the meat point.
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Speaker 1: Anthony parked and minutes later they're suspect into the car.
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Speaker 1: It was Liam Mackatasny, Sarah's friend, the guy who'd spent
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Speaker 1: the day with here a few hours before. She managed
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Speaker 1: our friend Keith Morrison at date Line NBC. So now
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Speaker 1: you've got this kid, a teen boy himself, putting his
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Speaker 1: neck on the line. He's got his car wired up.
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Speaker 1: Brilliant detective whis brought and Christopher GRIMCIONI prosecutor. How you
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Speaker 1: got him to do it? I don't know, because if
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Speaker 1: he's telling the truth, he's in a desolate, remote parking
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Speaker 1: lot with a cold blooded killer and its car is
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Speaker 1: wired up for sound. Take a listen to this. She
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Speaker 1: has out and then she goes to walk out the
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Speaker 1: front door. I took her out, drag her. My biggest
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Speaker 1: problem was the dog. And her dog lay there and
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Speaker 1: watched as I killed her. Didn't do anything. Nobody was there.
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Speaker 1: Nobody was there, even her daughter wasn't there. He was
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Speaker 1: in Florida. He said, yeah, so I have to leave.
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Speaker 1: I dropped my phone at Sarah's house. My phone was
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Speaker 1: at Sarah's house, but we can look for me. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I lost it. I couldn't find it. I had to
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Speaker 1: go to work. I had time everything out so that dude,
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Speaker 1: who are you doing? Straighten someone. I took her out,
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Speaker 1: dragging the back, put her in the bathroom, and then
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Speaker 1: I had to go shriek the work. So person came over,
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Speaker 1: took the body, put it in the bushes, and then
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Speaker 1: I was at work. I had a full like night
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Speaker 1: of work, except I left for a couple of counters,
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Speaker 1: which looks sketchy to look for my phone, though, which
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Speaker 1: is a reasonable like thing that did a year look before.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of like me these and my phone is
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Speaker 1: kind of a good thing because the cocks are like, oh,
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Speaker 1: he's hanging out out there. He watch the phone with
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Speaker 1: his phone. He's gone back and forth between his house,
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Speaker 1: looking forth. I'm hanging out with her. She was we
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Speaker 1: into the bank. She took somebody out that all her
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Speaker 1: money we're counting out, and then she goes to walk
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Speaker 1: out the front door. I took her out, drag her.
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Speaker 1: My biggest problem was the dog. And her dog laid
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Speaker 1: there in the watch as I killed her. Didn't do anything.
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Speaker 1: Nobody was there. Nobody was there, even her. I wasn't there.
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Speaker 1: He was in Florida. He said that he was. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so I have to leave. I dropped my phone at
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Speaker 1: Sarah's house. My phone was at Sarah's house, like, we
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Speaker 1: can look for me. Yeah, I lost it. I couldn't
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Speaker 1: find it. I had to go to work. I had
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Speaker 1: time everything out, so that dude, who are you doing?
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Speaker 1: Strangling someone? I took out, dragging the back, putting the bathroom,
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Speaker 1: and then I had to go shriek the work. So
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Speaker 1: person came over, took the body, put in the bushes,
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Speaker 1: and then I was at work. I had a full
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Speaker 1: like night of work, except I left work a couple
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Speaker 1: of punters, which looked sketchy to look for my phone, though,
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Speaker 1: which is a reasonable like thing that the year work
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Speaker 1: before me, and it's kind of like me these and
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Speaker 1: my phone is kind of a good thing because the
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Speaker 1: cocks are like, oh, he's hanging out there. He watched
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Speaker 1: the phone. Oh my stars, when I am hearing the
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Speaker 1: so called best friend one of the three Musketeers, Leah
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Speaker 1: mctasney talking about choking Sarah dead, this beautiful girl, mocking
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Speaker 1: her dog for watching the murder and doing nothing. That's
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Speaker 1: what he focuses on, the dog and losing his cell phone.
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Speaker 1: It's like Sarah, it doesn't even count. She's not even
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Speaker 1: a factor in this. Michael Stern, I hate that I
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Speaker 1: had to play that for you to hear her. The
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Speaker 1: way they regarded Sarah. It was horrible. You know, I
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Speaker 1: didn't see it. I knew a lot of which we
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Speaker 1: lined the tape prior to that, but it was really
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Speaker 1: over year before I'd got to see it, and they
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Speaker 1: didn't see it until it was presented to the court.
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Speaker 1: I had to trial, So it just it just broke
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Speaker 1: my heart. I've never felt such deep pain before, you know, Michael,
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Speaker 1: I know it sounds crazy to a lot of people,
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Speaker 1: but I've had the chance over all these years. If
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Speaker 1: I wanted to to delve more deeply into my fiance's murder,
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Speaker 1: to go to the crime scene, I just can't stand it.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to read the trial transcript. I don't
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Speaker 1: want to go to that scene because it just opens
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Speaker 1: up everything all over again. I got a question for
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Speaker 1: you to take to Vice brought. When you hear this
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Speaker 1: secret audio recording that the teen boy Curry makes, You've
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Speaker 1: got to be reeling in shock just at the callousness. Yeah. Absolutely, Um,
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Speaker 1: as you know, Nancy B. Were listening live during that conversation.
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Speaker 1: It was beyond disturbing. It was very difficult to listen to. Um,
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Speaker 1: it was absolutely disgusting the way he spoke about his
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Speaker 1: childhood friend, let alone any human being. Tell me about
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Speaker 1: you listening to it live as it was happening, Detective
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Speaker 1: it was again, it was it was beyond disturbing. Um. Uh,
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Speaker 1: it made me sick. I was listening to it. How
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Speaker 1: how Liam, Sarah's childhood friend could uh talk about her
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Speaker 1: death the way he did, void of any emotion? Um?
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Speaker 1: How anyone could talk about anyone's life the way he
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Speaker 1: spoke about Sarah's during that conversation. Um, it was. It
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Speaker 1: was truly horrible having to listen to that. Where were
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Speaker 1: you listening when this recording was going down live in
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Speaker 1: a desolate parking area, So we were We were in
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Speaker 1: a vehicle just a short distance away from where the
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Speaker 1: actual meeting took place. The conversation happened on the beach front.
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Speaker 1: It was ocean avenue of Bradley Beach, which is uh
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Speaker 1: right in front of the beach. Um, and we were
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Speaker 1: just on a side street, um, just down the road.
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Speaker 1: Well it doesn't end there, listen. My plan was for me,
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Speaker 1: I underestimated my own strength and how much of the
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Speaker 1: body the way because yeah, I got up on top
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Speaker 1: of the bridge to throw it off. My plan was
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Speaker 1: I was going to throw it off, run over the
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Speaker 1: jump over the divider and getting the prison's car and
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Speaker 1: I go up open the door over start dragging her
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Speaker 1: to throw her over, and the car start coming up.
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Speaker 1: I see like headlights kind of. I try to get
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Speaker 1: her over and I kid leg up right bewe her.
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Speaker 1: Her body like made me fall in my leg like
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Speaker 1: we up so down king your legs up and the
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Speaker 1: three cars coming up. So I robed her body. Dude,
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Speaker 1: I had superhuman strike and I sewed it in the
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Speaker 1: car and I picked it up and her feet were
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Speaker 1: appeared and her foot with her her head was down there,
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Speaker 1: and three cars go by, and I'm using way because
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Speaker 1: I easily could have been caught. And then the police
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Speaker 1: stations like right, yeah yeah, and then person comes over
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Speaker 1: the bridge, goes around me. You turn comes up behind me.
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Speaker 1: The two of us stood the body over and then
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Speaker 1: we grow You were hearing best friend Liam Acotazmi describing
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Speaker 1: trying to throw this girl's body off a bridge, how
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Speaker 1: cars kept driving by and he was panicking. He describes
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Speaker 1: it in such a till but nothing is more chilling
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Speaker 1: than him describing the murder of Sarah's stern. I pretty
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Speaker 1: much hung her like I just I picked her up
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Speaker 1: and had her just like gold and off the crown,
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Speaker 1: and she just kissed herself and she saw my name
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Speaker 1: and then that was it. And it took me half
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Speaker 1: an hour to kill her. I thought I was going
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Speaker 1: to be able to check her out and have her out,
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Speaker 1: and like a couple of measures, I checked her out
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Speaker 1: and then she was just throwing there, having a caesar
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Speaker 1: or something. So then I just I had I got
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Speaker 1: a shirt and I just shut it down her throat
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Speaker 1: so she would throw up or anything, and helped my
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Speaker 1: finger over her nose and set a timer. That's the
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Speaker 1: only time I had my phone, and it took me
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Speaker 1: like a half an hour after I hit start one
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Speaker 1: the time. This isn't the thing about like there's someone
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Speaker 1: that you can't account for it, you don't know, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you don't know until it happens, the way he describes
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Speaker 1: in such cold blood about killing this team girl, Sarah Stern.
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Speaker 1: But why why did he do it? The worst part
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Speaker 1: of it is, I thought he was working out green
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Speaker 1: in my partner. She had one seat and she took
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Speaker 1: money out and she only had hungry and this money,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was burnt or something only
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Speaker 1: terrible quality. I don't even know, If I don't even
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Speaker 1: probably probably sketch you sketch, you know, look like it
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Speaker 1: Sarah's money, especially investigation if they're looking for the guy
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Speaker 1: you has. And in the end he actually complains about
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Speaker 1: how little money he ended up getting to Momo County
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Speaker 1: Prosecutor Christopher GRAMICIONI is it just that simple? They wanted
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Speaker 1: the money? Questioning myself over and over ever since this
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Speaker 1: case occurred and we were able to get that video recording,
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Speaker 1: and the only answer I have is I think there's
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Speaker 1: sometimes there's just pure evil in the world, and this
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Speaker 1: is one of those instances. Clearly he had a financial motive.
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Speaker 1: He thought there was going to be money to the
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Speaker 1: tune of one hundred or some thousand dollars. As I
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Speaker 1: understand it, he liked to use that money. I wanted
21:54
Speaker 1: to use that money towards feeding a marijuana habit. But
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Speaker 1: I just I can't get my arms around this to
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Speaker 1: this day, how somebody could literally choke the life out
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Speaker 1: of one of his dear friends just for money. To
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Speaker 1: Sarah's dad, Michael Stern joining us, Michael, it's not like
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Speaker 1: there was a sudden angry argument and he pushed her
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Speaker 1: down the steps. He says, it took thirty minutes to
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Speaker 1: choke her. Thirty minutes. Every time I hear that, just
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Speaker 1: get upset. I just can't believe he did it. They
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Speaker 1: never raged for me. Did you try to keep myself together?
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Speaker 1: It's not easy sometimes, you know, I can't believe you
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Speaker 1: did it either. I can't take in that they at
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Speaker 1: this young age. It's very rare to see this type
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Speaker 1: of premeditated murdyr amongst teens at this young age, after
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Speaker 1: going all the way through school together, the accomplice, Preston
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Speaker 1: Taylor being the prom date for Pete's sake. It almost
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Speaker 1: defies everything you think you know about human relations. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Chris Grmicioni County prosecutor. You know you and I are
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Speaker 1: used to domestic homicides where typically the man gets angry,
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Speaker 1: he kills his wife or his love or his girlfriend,
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Speaker 1: and you know your killer. The killer is known, you're
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Speaker 1: in a relationship, but something like this. People ask me
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Speaker 1: this all the time. But let me ask you, Chris GRAMICIONI,
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Speaker 1: how do you do it? Because this is contrary to
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Speaker 1: everything we think we know about love and friendship. I
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Speaker 1: asked myself that question all the time to answy how
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Speaker 1: you could lie and wait, premeditate and deliberate to take
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Speaker 1: steps to kill a dear friend and then take steps
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Speaker 1: to try to conceal that crime from the police and
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Speaker 1: everyone else. I often wonder if this guy is just
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Speaker 1: a sociopath. We can't find any indicators that would demonstrate
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Speaker 1: that he was raised in any particularly bad environment. We're
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Speaker 1: always trying to figure out what might have caused this.
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Speaker 1: But like I just I come back to the fact
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Speaker 1: that sometimes there's just pure and unadulterated evil in the world.
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Speaker 1: People do heinous and horrible things, and I wish I
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Speaker 1: had better explanation for you. It's just completely tragic. It's
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Speaker 1: just one of the saddest cases we've seen. I gotta
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Speaker 1: tell you something, Chris, Sometimes I just get overwhelmed, overwhelmed
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Speaker 1: with I mean, I know that most people are good.
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Speaker 1: I know that, but when I hear Michael Stern crying
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Speaker 1: about it, it just I'm overwhelmed. I feel like a
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Speaker 1: huge tide of just evil washes over me and of
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Speaker 1: all people, her bestie. And then there's the prom date,
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Speaker 1: Preston Taylor. We know what happened to Sarah, and we
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Speaker 1: know what your involvement and it was. We want to
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Speaker 1: know why Liam did what he did. He killed Sarah. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you know that, correct? Yes, Okay, I don't know if
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Speaker 1: I've ever seen anyone confess that quickly. I mean that
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Speaker 1: that's really the reality of what happened with Preston Taylor.
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Speaker 1: And then he just goes on for you know, fifty
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Speaker 1: two pages or something in a transcript of describing everything
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Speaker 1: that they did. I'd got home just as he was
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Speaker 1: getting ready to run out the door from where he
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Speaker 1: was like, dude, I did it? What did you take that, sir?
26:02
Speaker 1: Her body was still a house. You know. I'm just
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Speaker 1: trying to take in not only the depth of evil
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Speaker 1: of best friend Leah mctasney, but how he managed to
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Speaker 1: rope in somebody else. I mean, you know, doctor Daniel Bober,
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Speaker 1: I need a shrink, and I need one now. Bober.
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Speaker 1: If somebody walked up to me and said, hey, let's
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Speaker 1: murder your good friend, your producer Jackie, all right because
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Speaker 1: she's got blah blah blah blah, who went, They're right,
26:34
Speaker 1: Mine would say awesome idea. Who you know? Nancy Truman
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Speaker 1: Capodi wrote this book in cold blood, which I'm sure
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Speaker 1: you know. And there are just sometimes when you get
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Speaker 1: two people together and one person is the weaker person
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Speaker 1: who is led by the stronger person. And this is
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Speaker 1: someone who clearly, even before the murder, didn't have any conscience,
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Speaker 1: any remorse, any connection to human beings, or at least
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Speaker 1: you know, that's what came out in the end. So
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Speaker 1: I think this is who he was from the beginning,
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Speaker 1: and it seems bizarre that he would just do this
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Speaker 1: for money, and I don't think he had a conscious
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Speaker 1: to begin with, you know. To Alex napoliela crime and
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Speaker 1: core reporter in Jay dot Com star ledger Alex out
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Speaker 1: of the Blue, this case was totally stalled. The cops
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Speaker 1: had this bad feeling about mctazzian Taylor, but it didn't
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Speaker 1: break until some kid out of nowhere pops up, who
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Speaker 1: wants to be a film director? For a minute, I'd
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Speaker 1: be worried. This was just part of one of his
27:32
Speaker 1: ideas for a short film. You know. So what did
27:37
Speaker 1: you think when you learn out of nowhere like a
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Speaker 1: comment comes Curry. Yeah, I mean this was clearly the
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Speaker 1: smoking gun. Obviously prosecutors had evidence, but to get the
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Speaker 1: suspect on tape confessing to the crime in the detail
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Speaker 1: that Leah mctathie did, I mean, this made everything. And
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Speaker 1: then and Preston gets brought up during this conversation, so
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Speaker 1: police are able to quickly go to Preston, get him
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Speaker 1: in a room, get him talking, he confesses to everything.
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Speaker 1: So really, without Anthony Curry, I don't know if prosecutors
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Speaker 1: have as strong as of a case as they did here. Well,
28:16
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you something to Christopher Gramicione, Mama County
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Speaker 1: prosecutor and Detective Brian Weisbrott, the detective working this case.
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Speaker 1: You guys were working so hard, But I believe I
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Speaker 1: believe this was divine intervention. I do because without Curry
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Speaker 1: coming forward just out of left field, this would never
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Speaker 1: have been solved, even with all of your pain staking investigation.
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Speaker 1: Listen from eleven forty five pm two forty six pm.
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Speaker 1: All Christ's going out the whole time. Yeah, so we're
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Speaker 1: thinking about fifty three minutes the bridge to the left, Okay,
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Speaker 1: So your conclusion based upon that calculation was that it
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Speaker 1: would take fifty three minutes for something to drift from
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Speaker 1: the southbound side of the bridge to the exit of
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Speaker 1: the Sharp River and left. Yes, fifty three minutes. An
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Speaker 1: object dropped in the Sharp River and then exiting into
29:22
Speaker 1: the ocean would have traveled ten kilometers offshore within twenty
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Speaker 1: four hours of the latest time period and given to
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Speaker 1: me by the Prosecute's office too, based upon your analysis,
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Speaker 1: the conclusion with respect to where the body or where
29:39
Speaker 1: something would drift to was that we drive to twenty
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Speaker 1: four hours, ten kilometers off the correct and at seventy
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Speaker 1: miles seven miles, seven miles within how many hours? Twenty
29:50
Speaker 1: four hours you were hearing expert testimony in court. While
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Speaker 1: Mcatasney and til are both convicted, Sarah has never been
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Speaker 1: found to Michael Stern, Sarah's dad. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: you can even put words to this, but how do
30:14
Speaker 1: you cope with the fact that Sarah's remains. Sarah has
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Speaker 1: never been found well since she went missing. That's all.
30:26
Speaker 1: I hope whether we could find her, but at least
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Speaker 1: we cover a body. But you know, I talked to
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Speaker 1: a lot of picture men and boat captains and people
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Speaker 1: that knew the waters and the way the streams the
30:43
Speaker 1: tidal waters were and the way things went off shore.
30:48
Speaker 1: It just became hopelessness after a while. And I have
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Speaker 1: no closure and I'll never get closure. It's been two
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Speaker 1: and a half years, and the chances of finding a body,
31:04
Speaker 1: you know, have slipped away every day after a week
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Speaker 1: or so, and after all this time, it just there's
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Speaker 1: just no hope that I'll ever have any closure. And
31:17
Speaker 1: it's very sad and disheartening and it hurts every day.
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Speaker 1: To Michael Stern, Sarah's dad, Sarah is everything I would
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Speaker 1: want my child to be. She's not just beautiful on
31:35
Speaker 1: the outside, but beautiful on the inside. That didn't just happen, Michael.
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Speaker 1: That comes from a dad who took over when mom
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Speaker 1: passed away with cancer and raised her to be the beautiful, young, wonderful,
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Speaker 1: brilliant woman she was becoming. I've kind of feeling that
31:59
Speaker 1: right now, Sarah is listening to us. I just feel it,
32:03
Speaker 1: I hope. So when you talk to Sarah, when you
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Speaker 1: speak out to her, what do you say? Just tell
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Speaker 1: her I miss her every day how much I love them. Now,
32:18
Speaker 1: what's your message to parents listening right now? Millions of
32:24
Speaker 1: parents of children of all ages, infancy to teenagers to
32:29
Speaker 1: children that have grown up and moved away. What are
32:32
Speaker 1: your messages to mom and dad right now? It's just
32:37
Speaker 1: to be very careful who your friends are. Watch your children,
32:43
Speaker 1: be careful who they're with, and find out as much
32:45
Speaker 1: as you can about the people that they're around. You
32:48
Speaker 1: just never know, and just keep an eye on them
32:51
Speaker 1: because it's it can happen to anybody. This is just
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Speaker 1: the most bizarre thing that you know, I've ever encountered,
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Speaker 1: and even even with all the things that have gone
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Speaker 1: on in the world, that this is just a totally
33:08
Speaker 1: baffling scenario of how everything took place. And we just
33:12
Speaker 1: have to be careful who's who's with your children and
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Speaker 1: who's with you because you just never know. And if
33:19
Speaker 1: something seems something seems like it's not right, it probably isn't.
33:24
Speaker 1: And you should really evaluate the people around you and
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Speaker 1: be very cautious. A harsh message but true, and I'm
33:34
Speaker 1: taking your words to heart. Michael Stern. Michael Stern, Alex Napoliello,
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Speaker 1: doctor Daniel Boberg detective wife brought Christopher CAMICIONI thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us. Goodbye friend,