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- 0:59John Verdett, Fourth Avenue Financial, Fancies and Pleasant. Good morning to you.
- 1:10You're listening to retire Right Radio. It is Monday morning. You made
- 1:12it through the weekend. Mooyit. It was a pretty hot one out there
- 1:15this weekend. Lots of stuff going on of course nationally and and here locally.
- 1:19But John Bredet from Fourth Avenue Financials and Studio with this this morning and
- 1:23taking your phone calls and questions about how you can retire right and now more
- 1:26than anytime, maybe that you're in the situation where you're like, man,
- 1:29I don't know what's going on in this world. Do I need to go
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- 1:56heads up that we will have open phone lines on five eighty Live after this
- 2:00as well, So I know a lot of folks are looking to talk about
- 2:02other topics too, so we will have some open phones after this show this
- 2:07morning. But John is here to help steer you through all of the conundrum
- 2:10and the messes that are out there and keep a clear sight. What is
- 2:15it Coach Taylor used to say from Friday Night Lights, full heart, clear
- 2:19eyes, and a full heart, never lose or something like that always when
- 2:22Man, it's been years since I've watched that show. Anyway, I don't
- 2:23think I ever watched that show. But you know what, it is so
- 2:28good. It's I mean, it's just a great family drama, you know,
- 2:31and Coach Taylor is a coach that everybody wishes, whether it was their
- 2:35coach, you know, when they played sports or whatever. But the thing
- 2:37that I find very sad about it now is I saw somebody online the other
- 2:39day saying, hey, you know what, I never watched Friday Light Lights.
- 2:43How good is that show? Should I watch it now? And my
- 2:45first reaction was, oh, absolutely, it's a great show to watch.
- 2:47However, it is so non representative of the high school football experience anymore,
- 2:52right, Yeah, I mean, Ken's going to the same school and playing
- 2:55there for four years, you know, I mean parents not rushing the field
- 2:59and threatening to do harm to coaches or referees or something, and that is
- 3:04not represented enough for it to be reality in Friday night lights. So it's
- 3:07a nice fantasy. It's a nice fantasy. If that's what you're looking for.
- 3:09It's TV. Yeah, that's right. But John Man, obviously the
- 3:13reality couldn't be stranger could Maybe we should just talk about TV. I don't
- 3:16know, to be honest with you. Obviously, huge news this weekend from
- 3:23the attempted assassination attempt to former President Trump in Pennsylvania. All accounts is at
- 3:28the president's okay, former president's okay, of course, but the fallout is
- 3:31just beginning. So we talk about watching headlines and market reactions and things like
- 3:38that all the time. It's not every day that a former president in the
- 3:40United States attempts to there's an attempt assassinator, an assassination attempt. Where do
- 3:46things look right now? What do we What should the the general consumer,
- 3:49the general investor out there who's looking for their retirement. The headlines are out
- 3:53there, should they worry about much of anything? Well, I mean last
- 3:57week before this the market actually was up quite a bit. The Dow actually
- 4:01actually reached the forty thousand level once again and closed above forty thousand, And
- 4:08there was certainly a broadening if you look at the we've been talking about that,
- 4:13the the cyclical stocks, the stocks that should benefit from rate cuts.
- 4:19Because the inflation numbers came in last week cooler for a change, it looks
- 4:27like the door is open for maybe multiple rate cuts coming up before too long.
- 4:32So that was the kind of the backdrop of leading into you know what
- 4:38happened this weekend and the market futures at least today, the market futures are
- 4:46are up strongly. And you know, is that because the market believes Trump
- 4:54has a better chance of winning. It looks like that's what the market is.
- 4:59The call them Trump stocks, you know, the stocks that are perceived
- 5:02to do well if he were president, and those stocks seem to be rallying
- 5:10around that. And so long term, though we've talked about this time and
- 5:15time again, the stock market and politics are two separate things. I mean,
- 5:21one can politics certainly can influence the business environment, but it doesn't do
- 5:27it like flipping a switch. Long term earnings are what drives the market forward.
- 5:33And that's what I think you'll see is if you step back, you
- 5:38know, six months, a year, two years, three years, and
- 5:41look out, the stock prices are going to follow the earnings and the projected
- 5:46earnings for the rest of the year. Technology stocks, which have been on
- 5:50fire for quite a while, their earnings are projected to grow, but not
- 5:58as fast as the overall SMP five hundred. Okay, so you're looking at
- 6:02financials and cyclicals things like that. If you look at the earnings projections,
- 6:08those are actually projected to to outperform. And that's a good sign. You
- 6:14know, you have a bull market like we're in now, and it's like,
- 6:18you know, you have this leadership of this narrow group, and then
- 6:24what's going to happen. I mean, typically what happens you get a broadening
- 6:27of that and more participation and and we've been saying, hey, we need
- 6:31to have that for quite a while. Now. Finally we're starting to see
- 6:35some of that. The tech stocks, which they're still far ahead for the
- 6:41year, but for the last month or so, it's the uh, it's
- 6:45the boring stocks that have kind of led the way. And that doesn't mean
- 6:50that the tech stocks are falling. It just means that they're not rising as
- 6:55fast as as the broader market. And that's why long term, an investor's
- 7:00best strategy, particularly as you're in retirement, is the state diversified. You
- 7:06know, except that, oh gosh, these tech stocks are up twenty five
- 7:11percent, I'm only up eight because you have a diversified portfolio. That doesn't
- 7:15mean you should chase those those necessarily, because that broadening of the market generally
- 7:21will happen, and market prices follow earnings, and earnings are cyclical depending on
- 7:27where we are in the economic cycle. Everything that you just talked about.
- 7:30It's so important to keep context and perspective as you're making decisions and you're deciding
- 7:35what you're wanting to do and things like that, because you might have a
- 7:39tendency to overreact. Not only it's the headlines, but the performance of different
- 7:43portfolios. I was looking at something the today I thought was kind of interesting.
- 7:46My HSA account has an investment account attached to it, so I can
- 7:50keep stuff in investment and bring funds out when I need to pay for medical
- 7:55things and stuff like that, and it's starting to get a little bit decent
- 7:57amount in there. I was like, hey, if we need, if
- 7:59we have any thing medical this year, we're actually going to be okay for
- 8:01a little while. But I was pretty interested. I was looking at that
- 8:05in my four to one K the other day, and this year my HSA
- 8:07account has outperformed my four oh one K, and I was like, wait
- 8:09a minute, now what and now fairly significantly? And I was kind of
- 8:13like, what did I do here that was different from my dang four oh
- 8:16one k. Of course that the amounts aren't as much, but the performance
- 8:20was better. And for about a minute I was kind of beating myself up.
- 8:22I was like, well, how, but it doesn't matter. I
- 8:24mean, you never know because next year it could be different, or you
- 8:26know, who knows, or about the end of the year different. Yes,
- 8:30that's correct. I mean look at let's say you're in a near retirement
- 8:35and retirement and diversified portfolio, and let's say forty percent of your money is
- 8:39fixed income bonds things of that nature. Those have been down all the way
- 8:46until finally the last week bonds turned around and now are positive every the year.
- 8:52But those were an absolute drag on the portfolio and have been for a
- 8:56while. You know, when people were thinking the rate cuts were going to
- 9:01happen six months or a year ago. You know, it's like, oh,
- 9:03bonds will turn around as soon as that starts to happen, and it
- 9:09you know, the pundits were six months or a year wrong on the actual
- 9:13timing of that. But guess what happened last week? You know, interest
- 9:16rates fell with the with the inflation numbers that came in, and the bond
- 9:20market finally turned positive slightly positive for the year. But last week the bond
- 9:26market as a whole had four times to the return of the Nasdaq, which
- 9:33the tex stocks for that one week. You know, so you have to
- 9:39stay diversified because that's you know, could you have predicted that would have happened
- 9:45last week? You know, could you have predicted what sector is going to
- 9:48be hot? I mean, you can't how long it's going to last.
- 9:52You can't take your retirement and hope that you're guessing what sector is going to
- 9:58be the be the leader and concentrate your investments. That's just not something you
- 10:05can do and sustain a distribution to sustain the retirement income that you need to
- 10:13live comfortably. You have to accept that sometimes parts of your portfolio will be
- 10:18dragging behind the others, and you're going to get the blended return, and
- 10:24you can't get jealous when those those you know, tech stocks roar and you
- 10:30know you'll have a piece of them, but you may only have twenty percent
- 10:33fifteen percent of your portfolio in those type of things. It's one of the
- 10:37struggles of a stock that grows so quickly. It seems like in its first
- 10:41year of growth, you know, it's almost like, I won't say free
- 10:45money, but when your year over year, when the year before was very
- 10:48small, your year over year always looks very good. So to your investors
- 10:52and your board, stockholders, anything else that's going to look fantastic no matter
- 10:54what you're doing. It seems like as the company, and I think Apple
- 10:56probably ran into this problem eventually, at some point you're making so much money
- 11:00and then you're going year over year over year, and suddenly when you're looking
- 11:03back at the year before, you make tons of money then too, and
- 11:05so to actually show profit, to show growth or something like that, you
- 11:09have to shoot for the moon. You have to make so much money,
- 11:11and right that kind of evens things out. Sometimes you know, Navidia eventually
- 11:15is going to get to the point where their year over year profits don't look
- 11:18quite as great as what they look right now. And that won't mean that
- 11:20it's a worse stock. It just means maybe it's not going to be as
- 11:24highly as traded as a stock because it's going to settle into a certain place
- 11:26at some point in time, well eventually, I mean, just like Apple.
- 11:30I mean, Apple's earnings are strong and have been strong for a long
- 11:33long time, but the earnings, the overall earnings haven't grown tremendously for the
- 11:39last several years, because how many iPhones can you sell? Right you know,
- 11:43everyone has one, and you know it's a replacement deal right now.
- 11:46But why have the earnings grown well? Because they make you know, twenty
- 11:50five billion dollars profit a quarter, and they have to do something with that
- 11:54money, and they return that to the shareholders, oftentimes through stock buybacks.
- 12:00So if they reduce the number of shares, the actual earnings per share for
- 12:03the remaining shares goes up. It's like the opposite of a split, right
- 12:07yeah, So that is how Apple has has dealt with that issue. That
- 12:13way they can continue the rising earnings even if earnings are relatively flat. I
- 12:18mean they've actually grown, but they're not right. They haven't grown like they
- 12:22were when the iPhone first was introduced, but they've maintained that for a long
- 12:28time, that growth path, earnings per share for a long time. A
- 12:31lot of it is through buybacks. It seems like that that's an an an
- 12:35industry that's really kind of you really have to be careful when you when you're
- 12:39looking at companies like you know, Tom Warner or Disney, places that plays
- 12:43a lot in the entertainment field, because it seems like obviously they're printing money
- 12:46to some degree like they always do. But each of these companies seems to
- 12:50be having a little bit of a trouble finding a foothold right now. And
- 12:52this everything is everywhere market where there's no more linear cable or a very little
- 12:58linear cable, and people just picking shoes what they want. You know,
- 13:01that means that you're always competing more so than what cable ever was, where
- 13:03there was only a couple solutions at any given time. Now that people can
- 13:07piece together their streaming services, you know, these places are having kind of
- 13:11a hard time finding their place sometimes, and an industry that maybe at one
- 13:13time was sort of a no brainer or whatever it might be. You know,
- 13:16they're kind of up and down a little bit in places now. Yeah,
- 13:18no doubt about it. I mean, things change, and the way
- 13:22products and services are delivered changes over time, and people innovate, and you
- 13:28know, companies have to keep up with that or they end up losing.
- 13:31That's the creative destruction of the of the market. You know, it's we
- 13:35vote every day with our dollars who the winners are, and you know,
- 13:39look at the S and P five hundred from fifty years ago, very few
- 13:43of the names are the same. Yeah, that's true. You know,
- 13:46it's just you know, it's hard to stay on top in a competitive environment.
- 13:54But that doesn't mean that you can't win as an investor. I mean,
- 14:00because all that process further's productivity, further's efficiency. That innovation in that
- 14:07competition is what drives things forward and makes things better and ultimately more profitable for
- 14:13the owners of those companies. It's just yet, how are you going to
- 14:16pick and choose the individual company. It's very difficult to do that and be
- 14:20right on the timing. That's why, in particular, as you're close to
- 14:24retirement, it's important to state diversified and just participate in the process rather than
- 14:31trying to you know, shoot the arrow through the bullseye and and you know,
- 14:37pick the exactly the right sector at exactly the right time. It's just
- 14:41not a not a very prudent way to manage a retirement portfolio. Yeah,
- 14:46it's a lot easier when you're when you're literally trying to jump into a pool
- 14:48rather than a glass of water, you know what I mean? Can you
- 14:50can hit hit the mark a lot more. One of the things that I
- 14:54watched this weekend. I was just trying to kill some time one morning,
- 14:56and so sometimes I go back to like old shows. I'm from emiliar whist,
- 15:00so you don't have to worry about you know, what's going on here.
- 15:01I have no idea this is a new show. You just drop something
- 15:03in that you've seen a million times. One of my favorite comedies of all
- 15:07time is The Ultra thirty Rock with Alec Baldwin, who was just got off
- 15:11the charges of that rust that rush trial. But one of the things about
- 15:15that show was such a cultural zeitgeist at the time when it was on that
- 15:18you can watch it and there's like historical capsules in there that are kind of
- 15:22interesting and I was watching one the other day and it just made me think
- 15:26about all of the episodes that kind of led into this. But as it
- 15:28pertains to what we talk about, they documented quite well the trails and tribulations
- 15:33of NBC, comcast and all that stuff through making fun of it through a
- 15:39course of the show. So like Alec Baldwin's character on that show, when
- 15:41he first took over to start The thirty Rock Show, he was formerly in
- 15:45charge of the General Electric, Microwaves and Entertainment Development Division, So it's like,
- 15:48you know, I mean, that was the joke that they have so
- 15:50many people that are that are staffing that wear different hats and doing different things.
- 15:54Later on in the show, they were sold to quote unquote Cabletown,
- 15:56which reflected the sell to comcasts from NBC, and so it was just kind
- 16:02of interesting. I started thinking about this, and one of the episodes was
- 16:03dealing with that. I was like, you know, you can kind of
- 16:07track generally some of the stuff with like the entertainment industry and stuff like that
- 16:11through the narratives of like this, you know, the satire this comedy.
- 16:14That was one because they dealt with, you know, a lot of that
- 16:15stuff. The changing landscape of entertainment and how suddenly, you know, you
- 16:19had General Electric, which was this huge company for so long, and then
- 16:22they fractured off and like a cable company, bought a network. I mean,
- 16:26how strange is that, you know? I mean it was kind of
- 16:27interesting to follow along with that, And I bet a lot of commentary that's
- 16:32fictional throughout the course of our entertainment history, comments on things that are real
- 16:36like that, and it's kind of interesting. Yeah, yeah, And you
- 16:38mentioned General Electric. There's a good example. That was the stock that kind
- 16:42of fell fell apart, and the management decided to shake things up. What
- 16:48did they do. They divested of a lot of their pieces to concentrate and
- 16:55actually spun off two different companies. So now that GE is three separate companies
- 17:00that are publicly traded and they're focused on you know, aviation and healthcare and
- 17:04and it's much more defined. So, yes, General Electric the company isn't
- 17:08as big, but as a shareholder, now you have pieces of all three
- 17:11of those companies that are that are hopefully their goal is to be more productive
- 17:18by by maintaining that focus. And it's incredible when you look at how those
- 17:22three companies have broken on it and what like ge was known for where it
- 17:26first started. I mean it's so different. I mean so many of these
- 17:27places, it gets so different from the division anymore, right, exactly exactly.
- 17:33It's it's just it's it's just pretty funny stuff. When it comes to
- 17:37a lot of that. What we're going to do that, we'll go ahead
- 17:38and take our break. We'll come back. We still have plenty more to
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- 21:00right. One of the things that I've ran into a few times in my
- 21:03life recently was older family members in my family's getting remarried later on in life,
- 21:08and so with a relatively mature financial landscape that they have that they brought
- 21:14from their previous life, coming together with somebody else that's in a similar situation,
- 21:18how do you how does like an older couple getting married that has had
- 21:22separate issues, how do they approach retirement together? If you know, if
- 21:26they're getting married and they're planning on, what are some of the things that
- 21:30they should keep in mind when it when it when combining households like that.
- 21:33Yeah, well, I mean so much of it is up to the individual
- 21:37or the couple on how they how they want to structure it. I mean,
- 21:41to me, it's always easier if you go at it as a team
- 21:47and you're you know, you're on the same page, you know, where
- 21:55you know, it's not my money or your money, it's our money,
- 21:56right that to me, it's easier to make plans, goals and decide efficiencies.
- 22:07You know, somebody may have money that's wroth, somebody may have money
- 22:11that's traditional IRA or savings, and you know, when you can pull those
- 22:15assets assets and and and elect how to use them, you can maybe be
- 22:18more efficient if you're doing it as a whole rather than two individuals standing alone.
- 22:26The Yeah, and that usually you know works out that way generally.
- 22:33Where it can get complicated is is estate planning, you know, coming up
- 22:37with Okay, who gets the you know, we've got children over here,
- 22:41children over here, how do you how do you divide that up equitably?
- 22:47And and and there Again, it's up to the individual. Those are just
- 22:49conversations you have to talk through and find out what's important to people and and
- 22:55and build the plant around that. I mean, very much like you would
- 22:59and individual or a couple that isn't going through that. It's just there are
- 23:03a few extra wrinkles. So it's all much like a newly wogged cuple or
- 23:08anything else. Being on the same page and creating a some sort of a
- 23:12teamwork mentality, coming up with predetermined agreements on things like that. That's going
- 23:18to help solve a lot of those issues. When it comes to two different
- 23:21individuals, you know that might have slightly different ideas of what retirement looks like
- 23:26or how to get there. You need to find the common ground and then
- 23:29and find a way to come up with a great plan based off of that.
- 23:32Yeah, I mean, oftentimes you have couples that one wants to retire
- 23:36yesterday and one likes to work, you know, so that you've got those
- 23:40are things you have to work through that kind of get around, you know,
- 23:44it's around the conversation of money but it sometimes it's just goals that the
- 23:48individuals have to have to work out together. And you know, I can
- 23:56I can tell what's possible, but you have to you have to ultimately tell
- 24:00me what's important to you so that we can build the plant around that.
- 24:03Is there we've talked about, you know, the need for diversification. Then
- 24:07you know, we sort of talk about the what the positive outcomes of somebody
- 24:11who's properly diversified and properly invested, what that's kind of going to look like,
- 24:15and what that should look like in the in the uh, you know,
- 24:18in the long term. And we kind of mentioned from time to time,
- 24:21you know, if you're if you have like a really great year or
- 24:23quarter or something like that that's way above what the market average is. I
- 24:26mean, good for you, but that probably means you're overloaded in in particular
- 24:30areas. But generally speaking, other than the major red flags, is there
- 24:33anything that somebody could take a look at as a whole and evaluate what their
- 24:40what their what their retirement strategy is and see where there could be some potential
- 24:44problems? Like is there any evaluative steps that you recommend for somebody to look
- 24:48at in different areas and be like, Okay, we need to evaluate here
- 24:51here and here to see how we look as far as uh, if we're
- 24:53doing the right investments, if we're putting the right money in the right places,
- 24:56whatever it might be. Well, I mean, there are all kinds
- 25:00of rules of them that you could you could use. I mean, certainly
- 25:04as far as savings and my savings saving enough money, some of that depends
- 25:10on what stage of life you're in and if you've been doing the right thing
- 25:14for a for a number of years. I mean, if you for a
- 25:18number of years have have been creating somewhere close to fifteen twenty percent savings and
- 25:26investment from your income, you're probably going to be okay. Now if you
- 25:33just take that money and put it in a savings account or or put it
- 25:37in a fixed account in your in your retirement plan. You know that even
- 25:41if you are saving that much money, you might not be okay because you
- 25:45haven't participated in any growth over over time. And that really the growth is
- 25:53is is what takes your savings and multiplies it. It keeps you keeps up
- 26:00with the cost of living and those type of things in retirement. So you
- 26:06have to make sure that you're you're allocated properly. You know, there's there
- 26:11are risks in being too conservative, yeah, for sure, And those are
- 26:17things that sometimes it's easy to overlook that because you're so focused on one risk,
- 26:22which is the loss of your principle, that you fully accept the other
- 26:26risk, which is historically much more damaging to a retirement than volatility of the
- 26:37market, I mean, the erosion of purchasing power through inflation. It must
- 26:41be somewhat of a battle. Sometimes I hear things I hate the old overheard
- 26:45in a cafe thing, but I do hear things all the time where you
- 26:48just in general, you're out with either family or friends, or you're standing
- 26:51in line or whatever, and people talk out loud sometimes and so they'll be
- 26:53in the middle of a conversation and sometimes you can't hear, but to hear
- 26:56what they're talking about, and you hear. And in the financial sector you
- 27:00stuff like this all the time. You talk about like sayings and and sort
- 27:04of I don't know, shortcut heuristics that people use sometimes with uh you know,
- 27:08uh, sometimes rhyme schemes in it, like if it's in may or
- 27:11you know, whatever it is like and there's been some historical validity, but
- 27:15maybe it's you know, it's not really predictive necessarily, but sometimes people are
- 27:19just loaded with really bad information, like it's not even there's not even real
- 27:22historical validity, and they're like, oh, you know, we need to
- 27:26go back to the gold standard. So you know, I mean, whatever
- 27:27the their their take is on something, and then as it matriculates out,
- 27:32it ends up being it's like, man, that's nowhere near you know,
- 27:34realistic or whatever it might be. Is there some issues with overcoming people's really
- 27:40incorrect evaluations of the status of how markets work and stuff like that. Yeah,
- 27:45I mean really going back to the basics and just going you know,
- 27:52what is wealth and how do you build that? We've talked about it here
- 27:56many times. It's it's wealth is not dollar bills. Wealth is the ability
- 28:00to serve someone. And that's what you do in your job. You go
- 28:03out, you serve. You get a certificate called a dollar bill that says
- 28:07you serve someone. You claim other people's services with that, and if you're
- 28:14smart, don't you don't let all those certificates go. You save and invest
- 28:18them. And what are you doing when you invest? You're putting it in
- 28:22a company that's doing what trying to serve people. You know, focusing on
- 28:26that can help clarify the proper direction because service doesn't go out of style.
- 28:36You know, meeting needs, solving problems, innovating that doesn't go out of
- 28:41style. You know, certain sectors of the market might be hot or cold,
- 28:44but if you focus on what's valuable to other people, you know,
- 28:48that's probably a good formula. And keeping your head up and being aware and
- 28:53relying on folks that know what they're talking about, like John berdata Forth Avenue
- 28:56Financial and they get the information out there before I get on to my next
- 28:59question. For the Avenue Financial located online Fourth Avenue Financial dot com. You
- 29:02spell out the whole the whole thing to find that Fourth Avenue Financial. Also,
- 29:04you can do that search on Facebook and like the page over there.
- 29:07They're located one seventy Court Street, downtown Charleston. That's right across from the
- 29:11Town Center Mall. They're on Court Street and their phone number three zerre a
- 29:12four seven four six seven none seven seven three zero four seven four six seven
- 29:17none seven seven seven four six seven none seven seven It's it's really uh incumbent
- 29:22on on folks to uh, to sort of be aware of their own belief
- 29:30systems in some way, you know. I mean, if you can identify
- 29:32the places that maybe you tend to have strong emotional attachment to, those are
- 29:37the places that's probably the best to seed decision making, to help decision making
- 29:40with somebody who's a professional in that and that can help you maybe God through
- 29:44that just a little bit. Yeah, no doubt. I mean, you
- 29:47know, it's easy, especially with all that's put on this weekend and the
- 29:52fact that we were talking about it. Anyway, it's an election year.
- 29:53Sure, being very careful not to allow your own political beliefs influence what you
- 30:03do in the market, in your savings and investment. You know, you
- 30:07need to focus on you and your goals and to a degree put blinders on
- 30:14when these things are going on. I mean, take a presidential election,
- 30:18and if you know you're retired, there are going to be four or five
- 30:21or more presidential elections in the course of your retirement. You can't just change
- 30:27your strategy if if if your team doesn't win, you know, because you
- 30:33still have your goals, you still have your needs, and I think there's
- 30:37a lot of temptation to make some of these big wholesale changes, you know,
- 30:42based on who wins or or who loses, and it can color your
- 30:51view in sometimes irrational ways. I mean, here we've been talking about the
- 30:57markets have reached record hots recently. You know, there are still people out
- 31:03there who believe that this administration has been the worst ever. You know,
- 31:11you might be able to point to some things, but certainly the market's done
- 31:15okay, or even like abstraction industries or something. It's like we're actually extracting
- 31:19more than ever. You know, that's actually industries and stocks still exist.
- 31:23And you know, the government is big, the economy is big. Are
- 31:33three hundred and fifty million people every day in the country making decisions is bigger,
- 31:37and that we don't you know, a policy is not like flipping a
- 31:44switch. You know, we all live our lives every day at a local
- 31:48level. You know, if you break it down to yourself or your family,
- 31:56I mean that's a real local level. But most decisions are made there.
- 32:00What are we going to have for dinner tonight? You know, what
- 32:01car is the family going to drive? You know, we're going to go
- 32:05on vacation this year. Those are the decisions that make up all this economic
- 32:10activity, and that's much more important than what goes on in Washington. And
- 32:15you know, we sometimes have to respond to some of the policies and so
- 32:20to businesses, but in general, you know, we're in charge of our
- 32:23dollars and we decide where those flow. It seems to me sometimes people that
- 32:30are lay people when it comes to the market and things like that, that
- 32:35they take this people that do high level investing and things like that, that
- 32:37they think that they're like fortune tellers or something, you know, that that
- 32:40anybody can tap into like their magic and figure out how to predict things,
- 32:45and that they can they can come up with that. I ran into a
- 32:47thread and this was very interesting because it's something that we've talked about. And
- 32:51it was also interesting and that the reasonable voices in this online thread were being
- 32:54drowned out completely by the people that are in hysterics. But people that were
- 32:58talking about investing in and like AI and technology and different things like that as
- 33:01it's coming on, and there were so many people that were making a one
- 33:05to one direct correlation with the dot com bust and we talked about it on
- 33:08this program before It's it's whether a bus or not. Who knows what's gonna
- 33:13happen. But it's not the same things. It's not venture money that's going
- 33:15into this. These are people that are actually making money right now that where
- 33:19the stocks are being or a lot of the activities going. That's a completely
- 33:22different thing than sort of the venture money that was going into the dot com.
- 33:27And there were sober people weighing in on this thread. It was like,
- 33:29hey, wait a minute, I mean, who knows what's going to
- 33:30happen in the long run, But that's not true. This is nothing like
- 33:34what dot com was, and they were just being philified and eviscerated. And
- 33:37I'm like, well, I know from my show that that John says that
- 33:40that's more or less true. What's wrong with these people being so angry at
- 33:44them? Yeah, well there's that and and but there are some similarities.
- 33:47Yeah, you know, the similarity is with the internet and dot com versus
- 33:52AI. You know, the actual winners are the people who utilize that in
- 33:59their business to the best. Yeah, it's not just a handful of companies
- 34:02that are doing it right now. The winners over the next year, two
- 34:07years, ten years will be the companies who harness the power of that new
- 34:12technology, use it in their business to be more efficient and serve people better.
- 34:16That that is actually why the market is propelled forward, not just a
- 34:23couple of companies that have invented something. How does it get used? You
- 34:29know, look a look at the Microsoft Office for instance, it's on every
- 34:32desktop. Well, Microsoft made a lot of money when they put that out,
- 34:37But who made more money? All the companies used it. They used
- 34:42it efficiently in their businesses. And who did that benefit? It benefited the
- 34:46consumers. You know. That's how it works, and that's why you don't
- 34:52have to be clairvoyant and knowing what is going to be the winner. The
- 34:58winner is collectively the market as these technologies filter through and make things better.
- 35:06Man, that's a great, great observation. As always with the job.
- 35:08Bre Debt from Fourth Avenue Financial. Just a couple of minutes left in the
- 35:10program this morning, John, if you want to just take a minute here
- 35:15and let folks know how to get a hold of you information they might want
- 35:19to bring to the table as they as they do talk to you, and
- 35:21also, you know, basically just give a summary of services that you offer.
- 35:24We have a couple of minutes here, so we might as well get
- 35:27flicks that might be tuning into five eighty LOB next. Sure, well,
- 35:29I mean the easiest way to get a hold of me is just call me
- 35:32three that Oh yeah, yeah, it's three zero four seven four six seven
- 35:37nine seven seven. Just give me, give me a call and we'll chat.
- 35:42If you'd like. You can go online on our website and you can
- 35:45schedule a free introductory call. Calendars up there. You can pick your time
- 35:52that's that works for you. And generally, in that call, we just
- 35:55get to know one another, talk a little bit about the situation broadly,
- 36:00and and and then I can offer some advice on the direction to go from
- 36:07there. You know, if I believe that we can be a value,
- 36:12then we'll schedule a full appointment. We Before that appointment, I have a
- 36:20questionnaire that we send out that we like to get back to kind of give
- 36:23me a better idea of where you stand before we meet, so that I
- 36:28can ask better questions of you. The first meeting is it's not really you
- 36:35know, picking and choosing stocks or bonds or strategies. It's it's really understanding
- 36:38your situation. So then I can craft a plan that's unique to you.
- 36:44Everyone is different, Everyone has different goals. Everyone has different risk tolerances.
- 36:49That first meeting is really about that, making sure that I understand those things
- 36:53before I craft a plan for you, because you know, I might mathematically
- 37:00tell you the right thing to do, but if you can't sleep at night,
- 37:04that's not the right path for you. And so that's that's a big
- 37:09part of it. That's that's why that first appointment is not a sales appointment.
- 37:15It's it's truly just getting to know the scope and the understanding of the
- 37:20situation and your attitudes towards them. That's great information. Encourage you to give
- 37:23John a call it with any questions that you have. Set you on the
- 37:25right path. You can do that this morning. Three zero four seven four
- 37:29six seven done seven seven threes aer A four seven four six seven none seven
- 37:31seven John, Thanks a lot for your time. We'll see you here next
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