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'Drunk' TV Star CRASHES, Curses EMTs Over $$ Blouse Appears in Court · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. In the last hours, a
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Speaker 1: soap opera star from General Hospital appears in Courton, California,
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Speaker 1: for a hearing on her felony DOUI charges after cops
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Speaker 1: says she was high as a kite on marijuana driving
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Speaker 1: down the wrong way on an LA freeway. I'm Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories, thanks for being with us here
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Speaker 1: at Fox Station. In series XM one eleven. That's right,
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Speaker 1: the General Hospital soap opera star was drunk and high,
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Speaker 1: according to cops, flying down the wrong way on an
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Speaker 1: LA freeway when she slams into another car head on
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Speaker 1: at sixty mph. The other driver in critical condition. Now
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Speaker 1: catch this. When she shows up at the Pasadena courtroom,
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Speaker 1: she's using a pair of crutches. Really, when I would
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Speaker 1: have a defendant walk into court with, say neck bryce
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Speaker 1: or a pair of crutches, I'm like, you know what,
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Speaker 1: that'll get you another ten years? Right there? Okay, what happened,
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Speaker 1: Let's start at the get go. This woman, Haley Pulos,
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Speaker 1: was last spotted driving to a luxury nearly three thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars a night Malibu rehab after she plows her vehicle
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Speaker 1: wrong way on the interstate. Can you imagine how fast
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Speaker 1: they were going all the while. We know the head
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Speaker 1: on collision was preceded by another hit and run where
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Speaker 1: the actress allegedly rammed into another person, took off, and
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Speaker 1: then plows in to this victim on the interstate. The
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Speaker 1: dui crash seemingly has no consequences because she is at
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Speaker 1: a Malibu rehab that offers gourmet dining, hot tub yoga,
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Speaker 1: horseback riding, fishing, beach access, and off site activities during treatment.
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Speaker 1: I'manancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thanks for being with
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Speaker 1: us here at Fox Nation and Series XM one eleven.
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Speaker 1: First of all, take a listen to our friends at
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Speaker 1: ABC and KTLA General Hospital.
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Speaker 2: Star Haley Pulos has been arrested for an alleged UI,
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Speaker 2: accused of causing a major freeway rent. The incident happened
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Speaker 2: on the one thirty four in Pasadena, where the CHP
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Speaker 2: says she entered the freeway into oncoming traffic. She collided
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Speaker 2: head on with another car, destroying both vehicles. Pulos was hospitalized,
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Speaker 2: where she was then arrested for DUI. The driver of
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Speaker 2: the other car was also hospitalized with major injuries.
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Speaker 3: Felisa Pulos was also involved in a hit and run
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Speaker 3: crash before the freeway accident. According to Soap Opera Digest,
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Speaker 3: the show has temporarily recast her character. She was arrested
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Speaker 3: at the hospital and faces dui charges.
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Speaker 1: But excuse me. To Jim Smith, chief investigative reporter with
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Speaker 1: Dailymail dot Com, the Soap Opera Digest, no offense. Their banner.
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Speaker 1: Their headline is her part has been recast. What about
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Speaker 1: the victims too, victims I believe in one day, Jim.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And look, I think I might be able to
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Speaker 4: explain why. That's what they headlined on Mancy And it's
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Speaker 4: because when they reached out to Haley Tulos they heard
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Speaker 4: about this crash. She just said to them, I was
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Speaker 4: involved in a car accident. I'm okay, I just need
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Speaker 4: some time to recover. She failed to mention the fact
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Speaker 4: that the reason she was involved in a crash is
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Speaker 4: because she was driving drunk, possibly under the influence of drugs,
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Speaker 4: and had hit not one, but two cars like you mentioned.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to read it for Baiden because it's
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Speaker 1: just so it's so incredulous. It's hard to believe she
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Speaker 1: plows into not one, but two victims, and correct me
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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. I think she was going wrong way,
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Speaker 1: drunk or on drugs on the interstate and plows into
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Speaker 1: somebody just after another hit and run. She hit, and
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Speaker 1: she ran and then has a head on collision. Quote
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Speaker 1: this was soap opera digest ib you're sitting down quote Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: I was involved in an automobile accident. What she's either
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Speaker 1: drug or high on something according to prosecutors, I mean
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Speaker 1: a snoopful And this is I was involved in an
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Speaker 1: automobile accident. Somebody wrote this for her. And I'm doing okay,
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Speaker 1: but I'm going to need a little time to recover.
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Speaker 1: In your malibu? Do you have seriously doing yoga, hot dug,
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Speaker 1: gourmet dining, horseback riding, fishing, beach access and off site activities? What? Okay? Wait,
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Speaker 1: I will be back as soon as possible. Exclamation, Okay,
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Speaker 1: just let that sink in joining me. In addition to
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Speaker 1: Jen Smith, chief reporter dailymail dot com, the former president
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Speaker 1: of Georgia Mad Mothers Against Drunk Driving, Founder director Cold
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Speaker 1: Case Research Institute, and star of a new hit podcast,
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Speaker 1: Zone seven, Cheryl McCollum the gall to say I'll be
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Speaker 1: back as soon as possible.
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Speaker 5: What Nancy, she's busy. I mean, she's got to take
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Speaker 5: some time with all the horseback ride, fish and yoga
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Speaker 5: and going to the beach. I mean, she's just not
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Speaker 5: even gonna have time to detail.
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Speaker 1: The biggest banner is she's been recast. Jenn Smith, I'm
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Speaker 1: just trying to figure out what exactly happened. First, I
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Speaker 1: want to get to the wrong way on the interstate,
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Speaker 1: because interstate to me means seventy five mph at best.
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Speaker 1: And how do you do a head on collision on
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Speaker 1: the interstate. Everybody's supposed to be going the same way.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this happened there are one point thirty
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Speaker 4: in the morning. Now, what we know, according to the
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Speaker 4: police reports, is that she was driving on this freeway,
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Speaker 4: she swerved, she clears the dividing barrier and crashes into
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Speaker 4: a car traveling on the opposite direction head on at
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Speaker 4: what we know so far as sixty miles per hour,
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Speaker 4: definitely fast enough to cause some serious damage and.
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Speaker 6: The driver of that car was.
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Speaker 4: Taken to the hospital with severe injury.
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Speaker 1: Right, did you say impact was at sixty mph?
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Speaker 4: That's this car where the victims car was traveling at
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Speaker 4: least sixty miles per hour when she crashed into it
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Speaker 4: driving in the wrong direction.
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Speaker 1: Joining me right now now, Joseph Trimblight, Senior forensic engineer
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Speaker 1: and accident reconstructionist with Veritech Consulting Engineering, and you can
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Speaker 1: find him at Vera techeng dot com, Vera tech Engineering
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Speaker 1: dot com. Joseph, thanks for being with us, Thanks for
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Speaker 1: having me. What do all of these numbers and the
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Speaker 1: speeds and going across the median which actually may have
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Speaker 1: reduced her speed somewhat, What do you make of this?
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Speaker 1: What happened?
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Speaker 7: Well, the way I understand it, and I'm taking some
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Speaker 7: of this directly from Daily Mail, was that she was
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Speaker 7: initially traveling westbound on Highway one thirty four and was
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Speaker 7: involved in an accident that was less severe with an
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Speaker 7: Oldsmobile driver, potentially causing her to redirect in a direction
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Speaker 7: that would cause her to launch over the median barrier
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Speaker 7: and then become traveling in the oncome traffic lane on
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Speaker 7: the eastbound side, and then at that point she contacted
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Speaker 7: the Kia that was driven by the twenty three year
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Speaker 7: old male. One thing I did find interesting about these
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Speaker 7: photographs that were provided by the responding emergency personnel was
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Speaker 7: at the point of rest for.
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Speaker 8: Both of these vehicles.
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Speaker 7: Was all the way over on the right side of
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Speaker 7: the road, which means that she probably was airborne and
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Speaker 7: traveling across the entire highway before she contacted this Kia.
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Speaker 7: The damage to both vehicles is severe. It appears that
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Speaker 7: it is a front end impact, biased a little bit
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Speaker 7: towards the driver's side of both vehicles, but the damage
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Speaker 7: is significant all the way from the front bumper through
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Speaker 7: the occupant compartment. And one thing I did read on
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Speaker 7: one of these news articles is that she had to
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Speaker 7: be extricated with the jaws of life.
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Speaker 1: That's exactly my thinking. In fact. Yeah, Joseph Tremblay, Senior
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Speaker 1: forensic Engineer and accident reconstructionist, I want you to hear
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Speaker 1: what we've learned about that from our friends at KCAL.
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Speaker 9: She's a general hospital actor. She plays the son and
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Speaker 9: daughter of Sonny. If you've ever seen that show, that's
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Speaker 9: who she plays. And we'll show you some video here
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Speaker 9: of the crash and you can see just really how
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Speaker 9: serious this was. This was a situation on the one
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Speaker 9: thirty four in Pasadena where Haley Puyos was arrested where
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Speaker 9: she came on the wrong way of the one thirty
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Speaker 9: four hit a car continued on and then got into
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Speaker 9: this head on crash. You can see here how mangled
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Speaker 9: up the cars are. Here's the actress herself. She ultimately
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Speaker 9: was arrested by the CHP after she had to be
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Speaker 9: extricated using the jaws of life by the Pasadena Police Department.
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Speaker 1: Joseph Trimblay, joining us from Veritech Engineering, explain why do
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Speaker 1: you have to use the jaws of life?
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Speaker 7: Well in severe accidents like this one. What ends up
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Speaker 7: happening opening from the impact crush that occurs to the
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Speaker 7: vehicle is that a lot of times the occupant compartment,
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Speaker 7: that the area where the driver sits becomes so damaged
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Speaker 7: that i'm sorry, the front end of the vehicle, the bumper,
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Speaker 7: and then both doors become so intermingled entangled together from
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Speaker 7: the impact that you can't get out the driver if
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Speaker 7: they do survive a significant impact like this, a lot
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Speaker 7: of times they can't get out of the vehicle. And
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Speaker 7: that could be because they're injured or because the vehicle
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Speaker 7: itself is just so damaged that they can't get out.
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Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you this much from what I know,
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Speaker 1: Jen Smith joining us Daily mail dot com. She's not
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Speaker 1: so injured that she's not at the Malibu rehab Let's
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Speaker 1: see Malibu Detox and Residential Treatment Center where she has
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Speaker 1: hot tub What all did I say? Hot tub gourmet dine.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'd like to have lunch there today. That's
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Speaker 1: really good. Yoga, horseback fishing, beach access, off site activities.
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Speaker 1: She's not hurt. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace General Hospital
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Speaker 1: star Hally Pullos shows up in California courtroom for a
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Speaker 1: hearing on two felony accounts of duy in connection with
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Speaker 1: a near fatal collision. The twenty five year old actress
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Speaker 1: allegedly drunk on alcohol and high on pot, driving not
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Speaker 1: only sixty mph but the wrong way when she slams
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Speaker 1: into another car head on. Ooh, I mean just pot
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Speaker 1: wasn't enough. It had to be pot and booze. Then,
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Speaker 1: to top it all off, it's a hit and run.
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Speaker 1: She leaves the scene. According to cops. Of course, the
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Speaker 1: driver of the other car seriously hurt, ensuing her. She
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Speaker 1: shows up at a Pasadena courtroom on a pair of crutches. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I would like to point out that her hair and
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Speaker 1: makeup is perfect. She is using hot pink cushioned crutches.
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Speaker 1: Oh my stars, I am looking at the car involved.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody lived, so what actually happened?
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Speaker 1: Jaws of life. They look like giant metal pinchers that
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Speaker 1: actually cut through the metal to extricate someone when the
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Speaker 1: car is so damaged and disfigured. So she's not hurt,
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Speaker 1: Jen Smith, I mean, the last photo I've seen in
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Speaker 1: this woman, her dad is driving her to this luxury
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Speaker 1: treatment center after a stop at Taco Bill. She has
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Speaker 1: not lost her appetite.
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Speaker 4: She definitely has not lost her appetite. And no, you're
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Speaker 4: quite right, she wasn't seriously injured. Obviously, this was hugely
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Speaker 4: fortunate for her that she was not seriously injured. But
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Speaker 4: we do know a little bit about how she behaved
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Speaker 4: when she was brought out of this vehicle. Now, these
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Speaker 4: emergency personnel, they clearly are risking their own safety getting
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Speaker 4: people out of these situations. And Nancy, when Hailey Bulop
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Speaker 4: was pulled out of her vehicle, she actually complained to
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Speaker 4: them that she was worried they were going to tear
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Speaker 4: her four hundred dollars shirt. She was cursing at these
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Speaker 4: men and women who were saving her, and she was
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Speaker 4: more worried about her clothes. She was then taken to
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Speaker 4: the hospital we imagine as a precaution and to be
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Speaker 4: checked over. And that is where the investigating authorities notice
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Speaker 4: that her speech was blurred, there was alcohol on her breast,
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Speaker 4: and they were able to make the determination that she
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Speaker 4: was over the limit. But after they searched what was
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Speaker 4: you know, still intact in terms of her car, they
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Speaker 4: signed a mini bossal of tequila and they found marijuana.
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Speaker 1: Edible tequila and pot. Wow, the car wasn't the only
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Speaker 1: thing airborne. Yeah. Speaking of her very bad behavior after
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Speaker 1: not one but two crashes, take a list to Mike
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Speaker 1: Rogers takel.
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Speaker 9: There is a TMZ report that claims that after she
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Speaker 9: was extricated, she was not terribly nice to a firefighter,
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Speaker 9: claiming that, you know, her shirt is worth four hundred dollars,
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Speaker 9: don't cut it. Despite the fact that she allegedly just
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Speaker 9: caused this pretty bad crash. So the CCHP is now
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Speaker 9: investigating this whole thing again. She's been arrested for duy
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Speaker 9: and driving wrong way on her freeway.
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Speaker 1: Also a criminal charge. Okay, let me get this, that's straight.
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Speaker 1: You know what. Let me go out to you. Robert Crispin. Crispin,
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Speaker 1: private investigator, former Federal Task force officer for the DOJ,
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Speaker 1: Department of Justice with DEA and the Miami Field Division.
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Speaker 1: Former homicide investigator, now at Crispin Special Investigations. Find them
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Speaker 1: at Crispin Investigations dot com. Robert Crispin. She cussed out
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Speaker 1: see emergency tics and warning they better not hurt her
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Speaker 1: four hundred dollars blouse.
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Speaker 10: Help me, Well, I've seen it a bunch of times, Nancy.
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Speaker 10: You know, before becoming a federal agent. You know, I
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Speaker 10: was a city cop, and gosh, I've arrested so many.
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Speaker 8: People for DUI.
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Speaker 10: And the reason they're cutting her shortage because they need
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Speaker 10: to look at her to make sure she doesn't have
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Speaker 10: any bullet holes in her Was she shocked before the christs?
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Speaker 8: Do you need to see if.
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Speaker 10: There's any other injuries anywhere on her body. That's very
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Speaker 10: typical of a drunk driver to be argumentative. That's one
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Speaker 10: of the telltale signs. Argumentative odor of alcohol, bloodshot, watery eyes, combative,
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Speaker 10: all that that's all part of the bigger picture.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, doctor Sherry Schwartz joining US forensic
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Speaker 1: psychologist specializing and capital mitigation. You can find her at
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Speaker 1: Panthermitigation dot com. She's the author of Criminal Behavior and
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Speaker 1: also the author of Where Law and Psychology Intersect Issues
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Speaker 1: in Legal Psychology. On Twitter at trial dot doctor Sherry Schwartz,
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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Okay, you'd think she
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Speaker 1: would have stopped after the first crash, that hit and run,
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Speaker 1: But no, the thought of stopping and checking on that
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Speaker 1: victim that did not occur to her. She continued on
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Speaker 1: to have a head on collision with another driver and
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Speaker 1: then have the wherewithal not to ask about, Oh, my stars,
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Speaker 1: is that guy hurt you? Damn well? Better not cut
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Speaker 1: my four hundred dollars blouse. Be that's what happened.
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Speaker 11: Yes, and I hope it's on BODYCM so that everybody
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Speaker 11: can see it in court because that'll be extra special.
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Speaker 1: Well, is that your medical diagnosis? That will be extra
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Speaker 1: special because I.
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Speaker 11: Really like that this is and I do mitigation, as
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Speaker 11: you know, Nancy, And these are the kinds of crimes
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Speaker 11: that I won't touch because it's completely preventable. And here
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Speaker 11: is someone that has to be removed from her own
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Speaker 11: vehicle with the jaws of life. And I've never seen
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Speaker 11: this happen, but I imagine it takes some time for
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Speaker 11: that to happen. It'll just clamp that thing down and
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Speaker 11: out you come, right. I imagine it takes some time.
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Speaker 11: And during that time, why is she not thinking, oh,
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Speaker 11: oh my goodness, like, am I going to survive? Is
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Speaker 11: victim going to survive?
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Speaker 12: You know?
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Speaker 11: Am I going to get into trouble? No, she's worried
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Speaker 11: about her four hundred dollars blouse and she was so
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Speaker 11: aggressive according to what I read, that she had to
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Speaker 11: be sedated at the hospital because she was even aggressive
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Speaker 11: with hospital staff. And what we know, what the psychology
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Speaker 11: research shows us about this type of behavior is that
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Speaker 11: the alcohol tends to amplify trait behavior. So this is
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Speaker 11: somebody who likely has issues with aggression.
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Speaker 1: Jared Farantina is joining US veteran homicide prosecutor. You can
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Speaker 1: find them on Facebook and Insta. Jarrett Farantina, jareded really
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Speaker 1: tequila and Edible's pot and she's worried about her four
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Speaker 1: hundred dollars blouse and becomes abusive, cursing out the EMT's
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Speaker 1: trying to get her out of her car with the
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Speaker 1: jaws of life.
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Speaker 8: Well, Nancy, it's Haley's world and we're all just living
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Speaker 8: in it. That's the attitude that I get here. She
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Speaker 8: has alcohol, marijuana, edibles. If it was truly a hit
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Speaker 8: and run too, I mean she could have been, she
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Speaker 8: could have been blacked out behind the wheels. So she
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Speaker 8: got to a point where she is so out of
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Speaker 8: her mind on whatever she's intoxicated on that she is
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Speaker 8: not even in touch with reality.
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Speaker 6: Has the hit and.
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Speaker 8: Run Kareem's into the oncoming lane and causes these very,
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Speaker 8: very bad injuries to this young man. So her conduct
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Speaker 8: before is a series of bad decisions. If she wasn't
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Speaker 8: passed out, it was a hit and run, she didn't
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Speaker 8: render aid to somebody, and she Kareems into that oncoming lane.
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Speaker 8: It's one intentional act and bad decision after another by Haley.
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Speaker 8: And then after the accident mistreats emergency personnel and was combative.
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Speaker 4: At the hospital.
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Speaker 8: Just a bad actress all the way around.
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Speaker 5: Nancy.
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Speaker 1: Can I tell one of those amts had to say
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Speaker 1: no good ded goes unpunished. Is that Cheryl McCollum jumping in?
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Speaker 10: Yes, Sam, go ahead.
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Speaker 1: But I just want to tell you before you say
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Speaker 1: one more word. As your lawyer, let me advise you
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Speaker 1: that pulos is stay at the Malibu Rehab could cost
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Speaker 1: nearly thirty thousand dollars. Okay, okay, go ahead.
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Speaker 5: Alcohol makes you more of who you are. So if
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Speaker 5: you drink and want to fight everybody in the bar,
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Speaker 5: that's who you are. If you get drunk and want
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Speaker 5: to sleep with a perfect stranger, that's who you are
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Speaker 5: at your core. Alcohol does not change you. Most people
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Speaker 5: drink so they can do these things. So like when
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Speaker 5: a woman says, oh, he's good to me until he
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Speaker 5: starts drinking and then he beats me. No, he drinks
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Speaker 5: so he can beat you. So there's a difference when
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Speaker 5: you look at somebody that has cost thousands of dollars
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Speaker 5: worth of damage in these vehicles cost thousands of dollars
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Speaker 5: versus worth of you know, rescue equipment and that time,
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Speaker 5: and she's worried about a four hundred dollars shirt. And
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Speaker 5: everybody loves firefighters. They know how to diffuse a situation.
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Speaker 5: They call you by your first name, they try to
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Speaker 5: calm you down. They are literally only there to help you.
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Speaker 5: And you're going to try to punt to one of them,
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Speaker 5: that's who you are.
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Speaker 1: The soap opera queen was flanked by her parents, so
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Speaker 1: she made her way into the courtroom for the hearing.
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Speaker 1: First responders who rushed to the scene say they found
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Speaker 1: the soap opera star smelling of alcohol, with slurred speech
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Speaker 1: and glassy eyes. Marijuana edibles and tequila miniatures were then
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Speaker 1: found in her white Ford after it was searched by cops.
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Speaker 1: Apparently she saw no reason to stop driving after her
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Speaker 1: first hit and run that night.
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Speaker 2: What more do we know?
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Speaker 1: You know what, Cheryl McCollum. I'm looking at a photograph
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Speaker 1: we obtained from the Pasadena Fire Department. I don't know
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Speaker 1: how these people even lived. You see the airbags deployed
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Speaker 1: that this car. These cars are mangled. Now we know
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Speaker 1: Pulos of course survived, but the other driver stained major injuries.
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Speaker 1: And joining me right now a special guest medical examiner
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Speaker 1: from the State of Florida, doctor Tim Gallagher, Lecturer, University
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Speaker 1: of Florida Medical School, Forensic Medicine. Doctor Gallagher, thank you for
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Speaker 1: taking time out of your day at the Medical Examiner's
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Speaker 1: office to speak with us. Why is it, doctor Gallagher?
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Speaker 1: And I know this is anecdotal, but I don't have
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Speaker 1: a statistical study, but why is it the drunk person
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Speaker 1: always walks off, They're fine, she's at a three thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars a day Malibu rehab, horseback riding, and sitting in
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Speaker 1: the hot tub. Everybody else ends up in traction at
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Speaker 1: the hospital or dead.
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Speaker 6: There is information that supports that. And you know, typically
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Speaker 6: what alcohol does, it is a essentral nervous system depressant,
22:54
Speaker 6: meaning that it relaxes you, and so it also increases
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Speaker 6: your reaction time, so it takes you longer to see
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Speaker 6: something and react to it than somebody who is sober.
23:06
Speaker 6: So typically in these accidents, the person who is sober
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Speaker 6: will brace themselves right before the crash, so they'll grab
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Speaker 6: onto the steering wheel very hard. They'll strengthen their strengthened,
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Speaker 6: they will straighten their arms, they will straighten their legs,
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Speaker 6: and that actually makes their bones a lot easier to break,
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Speaker 6: and they get injured a lot worse than somebody who
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Speaker 6: is just relaxed, does not fight the feeling and lets
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Speaker 6: the airbag come out and save them. So you know
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Speaker 6: the reason why I'm saying it's not exactly anecdotal is
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Speaker 6: because people who are restrained in the car and are
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Speaker 6: asleep in the car and are subject to the same
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Speaker 6: types of accidents have a much greater survival rate. So
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Speaker 6: the alcohol relaxes the body. You do not brace your arms,
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Speaker 6: you after them, you would, You let go of the
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Speaker 6: steering wheel and then the air bag will come out
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Speaker 6: and prevent you know, a lot of injuries that way.
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Speaker 6: And we also see this in race car drivers when
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Speaker 6: when the race car driver his car is out of
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Speaker 6: control and he knows he's going to hit the wall,
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Speaker 6: he will let go of the steering wheel, fold his
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Speaker 6: arms across his chest, and let the safety equipment that's
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Speaker 6: installed in the car do its work, and there's a
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Speaker 6: lot less injuries, you know, to the driver because of
24:31
Speaker 6: that reason. So it's the relaxation that the alcohol and
24:34
Speaker 6: in this case the marijuana brought her that actually contributed
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Speaker 6: to her not becoming as injured as she would have been.
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Speaker 1: You know, that's amazing what you just said, doctor Gallagher.
24:47
Speaker 1: I'm trying to take it all in. So that really
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Speaker 1: is true. It's not just what I've noticed in dui homicides.
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Speaker 1: That's real. So the drunk person is more relied and
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Speaker 1: somehow ends up walking away or at least being a
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Speaker 1: lot less injured than all the other parties, because I
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Speaker 1: don't know, if you've seen this picture of these mangled cars,
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Speaker 1: what looks like it's basically been cut in half. They
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Speaker 1: really look awful. I don't know how anyone survived this, hey,
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Speaker 1: doctor Gallagher. Another quick question, tequila mixed with pot ediples?
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Speaker 1: What effect would that have on the defendant, the actress
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Speaker 1: Haley Pulos.
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Speaker 6: Well, it depends on how much she had with her now,
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Speaker 6: so a six ounce how.
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Speaker 1: Much tequilla does it take? Gallagher?
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Speaker 6: Well, also depends on the person's weight, you know, But
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Speaker 6: I would say an actress is probably underweight if I
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Speaker 6: were just hazard to guess, so I would say that
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Speaker 6: five ounces of tequila would raise her blood alcohol level
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Speaker 6: two about where she needs to be intoxicated, and then
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Speaker 6: anything above that will just add to that. As far
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Speaker 6: as the intoxication brought upon by the well delta nine THHC,
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Speaker 6: which is the marijuana and then the alcohol, those combined
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Speaker 6: effects are often greater than the effects individually. You know,
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Speaker 6: we say we typically say, you know, a two plus
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Speaker 6: two equals four, but in intoxication alcohol and marijuana, two
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Speaker 6: plus two often equals ten. So they would be more
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Speaker 6: intoxicated having the combination, you know, than having each one individually.
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Speaker 1: You know, it was really interesting, Doda. Doctor Gallagher is
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Speaker 1: joining me the Medical Examiner for the state of Florida.
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Speaker 1: The big push to legalize marijuana and whether you're for
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Speaker 1: it or against it. I of course I'm against it,
26:54
Speaker 1: not because I think you're going to sit on your
26:56
Speaker 1: sofa andes, but a big fat do be my concern
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Speaker 1: as you're going to get on the road and drive,
27:03
Speaker 1: and more vehicular homicides will occur because you're stunned. What
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Speaker 1: do you think about that, doctor Gallagher.
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Speaker 6: Well, it's very interesting. You should mention that, you know,
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Speaker 6: for every decedent or every victim that does not survive
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Speaker 6: that comes to the Medical Examiner's office as a result
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Speaker 6: of a car accident, we send the blood to toxicology
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Speaker 6: to see exactly what was in it. And you know,
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Speaker 6: marijuana has become so incredibly common in these accidents that
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Speaker 6: if in fact a blood sample comes back negative for marijuana,
27:39
Speaker 6: I will call the toxicology company and ask them to
27:42
Speaker 6: just run at one more time, you know, because nine
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Speaker 6: out of ten specimens do come back you know, positive
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Speaker 6: for delta nine THHC, which is the active ingredient in marijuana.
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Speaker 1: And before you go back to your patients, doctor Gallagher,
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Speaker 1: is there the same level of drug and an edible
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Speaker 1: as there would be in pot cigarette.
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Speaker 6: Difficult to say because of all the different recipes and
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Speaker 6: there's no standardization, you know, like they would have been
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Speaker 6: pharmacological things, you know. So and also there's different subtypes
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Speaker 6: of marijuana. A lot of them have more delta nine
28:23
Speaker 6: thc in them than another subspecies of it. So it's
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Speaker 6: just very difficult to say.
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Speaker 1: It's not like they've got an nutitional guide stuck on
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Speaker 1: the back of the edible about the calories and the
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Speaker 1: tea and the pot content. Guys, this woman, this soap
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Speaker 1: opera star, he wants us to know she'll be back
28:43
Speaker 1: really soon from her luxury rehab. Haley Pulos is by
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Speaker 1: far not the first. Is the name Mel Gibson ring
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Speaker 1: a bell take listener cut.
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Speaker 13: Nine Thursday night. Mel Gibson was arrested on the Pacific
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Speaker 13: Coast Highway with a bottle of tequila in his brand
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Speaker 13: new Lexus, and he was clocked about eighty four miles
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Speaker 13: an hour in a forty five mile an hour zone.
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Speaker 13: According to the Sheriff's Department was arrested without incident. We're
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Speaker 13: now finding out today that he not only leveled some
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Speaker 13: what it can only be conceived as, or perceived as
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Speaker 13: what can only be perceived as anti semitic comments to
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Speaker 13: the officer, but also some pretty harassing, sexually harassing comments
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Speaker 13: to a female officer. So there's a lot more to
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Speaker 13: this story than meets the eye.
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Speaker 1: You were hearing our friends at Extra mel Gibson ranting
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Speaker 1: anti Semitic slurs and sex slurs. But take a listen
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Speaker 1: to our friends at ABC.
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Speaker 14: An angry rant caught on tape.
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Speaker 10: You were evocatively dressed all the time in your fake books.
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Speaker 10: You feel you have to show off and tied out
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Speaker 10: and type panels.
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Speaker 14: Celebrity site Radar Online reports mel Gibson, unaware he was
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Speaker 14: being recorded, lashed out at his ex girlfriend and the
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Speaker 14: mother of his eight month old child, Oksana Grigoryeva.
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Speaker 11: I don't like it.
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Speaker 15: I don't want that woman, I don't want you.
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Speaker 14: His comments allegedly get worse, turning to racial slurs, which
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Speaker 14: new reports say led to the William Morris Talent Agency
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Speaker 14: dropping Gibson. Gibson's people say the split was mutual.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so that was a fight with his girlfriend, the
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Speaker 1: mom of his child. The original bruhaha was about comments
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Speaker 1: he made while drunk driving. Of course, he's not the
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Speaker 1: only celebrity to misbehave and explode. It wouldn't be fair
30:41
Speaker 1: not to manage mention Alec Baldwin with it are cut
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Speaker 1: thirteen from ABC Bike.
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Speaker 16: Taking his public blowouts with the press to a whole
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Speaker 16: new let. Trying to get into his car outside his
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Speaker 16: New York apartment on Friday with his wife and three
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Speaker 16: old baby, the famously hot tempered actor got in the
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Speaker 16: face of a female New York TV reporter, whom his
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Speaker 16: wife says hit her in the face with a microphone
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Speaker 16: a day earlier.
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Speaker 1: You're the one that.
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Speaker 9: Almost hit my wife with the microphone in the face.
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Speaker 15: I asked you a question, if you want to apologize
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Speaker 15: to it, I.
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Speaker 5: Asked your question.
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Speaker 16: Still fuming, Baldwin rings over nearby comps, demanding they take action.
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Speaker 9: I do want to press charges against her.
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Speaker 12: She assaulted my wife.
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Speaker 16: The ruckus didn't stop there, as Baldwin then bangs into
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Speaker 16: another car as he tries to leave his parking spot.
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Speaker 1: That's the tip of the iceberg right there. But I
31:36
Speaker 1: want to get back to driving drunk and bad celebrity
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Speaker 1: behavior when they're already driving drunk and in Pulos's case,
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Speaker 1: two crashes sending one person to the hospital that we
31:49
Speaker 1: know of with serious, serious injuries. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: our friend Jim ray An inside edition the now infamous
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Speaker 1: incident regarding Heather Locklear, Heather, how are you doing?
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Speaker 12: The turmoil continues for troubled actress Heather Locklear. The former
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Speaker 12: Melrose Play star, shielded her face with a hoodie today
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Speaker 12: after being busted yet again. If any statement to make
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Speaker 12: it all, Miss Locklear. Locklear allegedly struck a cop and
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Speaker 12: a paramedic who were responding to a nine to one
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Speaker 12: one call out of her home Sunday night.
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Speaker 16: She was extremely intoxicated and at one point she actually
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Speaker 16: kicked a deputy, at which point she was arrested.
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Speaker 12: Locklear was released after posting twenty thousand dollars bail. She
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Speaker 12: said nothing as she left jail with her attorney.
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Speaker 4: We have no cop.
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Speaker 12: She was wearing flip flops and pajamas as she headed
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Speaker 12: to a car.
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Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace. We can't forget that as
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Speaker 1: amt are trying to help her. The soap opera star
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Speaker 1: hit a firefighter and said, this is a four hundred
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Speaker 1: dollars fing shirt, apparently caring more about her overpriced shirt
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Speaker 1: than the well being of the crash victims. Wow, I
33:19
Speaker 1: would have a field day in that closing argument. But
33:23
Speaker 1: aside from my closing argument, my imaginary closing argument that
33:26
Speaker 1: I would give if I was prosecuting this case, what
33:29
Speaker 1: are the actual facts that we know? Why does everybody
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Speaker 1: have to get drunk and then attack the cop or
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Speaker 1: in Pulos's case, the firefighter.
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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think at that point they can't
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Speaker 5: hide who they are because they're intoxicated. So again, when
33:44
Speaker 5: you look at this behavior, it is a pattern they
33:47
Speaker 5: repeat over and over. This isn't the first time they've
33:50
Speaker 5: been intoxicated, this isn't the first time they've driven drunk.
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Speaker 5: And Nancy, the reality of this crime is we lose
33:58
Speaker 5: thirteen thousand people a year to unk you know, drunk
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Speaker 5: driving crashes. There are one hundred percent preventable, And even
34:07
Speaker 5: during this episode of your show, one person will be
34:11
Speaker 5: killed due to an alcohol related driving incident. And it's preventable.
34:17
Speaker 5: Now that we have lived, we have uber, we have
34:20
Speaker 5: taxis we have. Hey, here's an idea. Stay home. You know,
34:24
Speaker 5: you can drink all you want, you can party and
34:26
Speaker 5: have the time of your life. Do not get behind
34:29
Speaker 5: the wheel of a car, you know.
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Speaker 1: Jenna Smith joining me, Chief investigative reporter for Dailymail dot Com.
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Speaker 1: It really wouldn't be fair when we're talking about celebrities
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Speaker 1: that get drunk and have crashes, or celebrities seeding off
34:46
Speaker 1: their own stardom that believe they can mistreat all of us,
34:51
Speaker 1: just regular people. Jen, take a listen to our cut nineteen.
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Speaker 15: Come an American.
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Speaker 17: You got me in my hotel, a regally in my hotels?
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Speaker 17: Are doing what sir?
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Speaker 1: Let's go, Joe, you really got this cuss on me?
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Speaker 5: Heavy bro, I'll.
35:11
Speaker 1: Let me.
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Speaker 6: Oh listen, can we talk me and you?
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Speaker 17: No, we can't talk.
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Speaker 4: I'm not going to America.
35:17
Speaker 17: Okay, my taxes get me off my arms, so we're.
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Speaker 5: Not gonna have a conversation.
35:21
Speaker 4: No, you don't put these off.
35:24
Speaker 5: My arms or you beeping.
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Speaker 1: You're hearing Shiah and he's not done yet. Take a listener. Friends,
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Speaker 1: at AP.
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Speaker 17: You at president, don't give it about you and you
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Speaker 17: stuck in a police force and.
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Speaker 4: Don't give me about you.
35:37
Speaker 17: So you want to rest blood white people who get
35:40
Speaker 17: who ask for cigarettes. I came up to you trying
35:44
Speaker 17: to be nice.
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Speaker 15: You stupid.
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Speaker 17: I came up to you asking for a cigarette. You
35:51
Speaker 17: don't what would ask for a cigarette if I was racist?
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Speaker 8: I'm stupid.
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Speaker 17: I was asking for a cigarette.
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Speaker 1: You said no.
35:58
Speaker 17: I said a word, and then you were rest of me.
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Speaker 16: You've done.
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Speaker 17: They got cameras everywhere, you dummy. I got more millionaire
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Speaker 17: lawyers than you know what.
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Speaker 10: To do with you.
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Speaker 17: I'm from it, you dummy.
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Well that's the way to get you a
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Speaker 1: cop on your side. To cuss him out, call him stupid.
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Speaker 1: Jent Smith, what is wrong with shilabus?
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Speaker 4: I mean, this is just the classic cases. Don't you
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Speaker 4: know who I am? And is a thing we see
36:28
Speaker 4: constantly with celebrities Shia Lahbluff, who knows what was going
36:32
Speaker 4: on there? I mean quite clearly, that is a man
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Speaker 4: not in control of his faculties. But it's what we
36:38
Speaker 4: see time and time again. We've heard of Shilah buff
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Speaker 4: alex Baldwyn mel Gibson alone. That's in the last five
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Speaker 4: minutes of this conversation. There are kindless examples, and you know,
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Speaker 4: is it because celebrities get to into a different stratosphere
36:53
Speaker 4: of success and adoration and wealth where they think that
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Speaker 4: they're above the law, potentially in situations like this one
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Speaker 4: involving Haley Pulos. The crime itself do UI is tragically
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Speaker 4: not a rare one. Do U I have account for
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Speaker 4: thirty percent of all vehicle crashes in America. But the
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Speaker 4: difference here is when a celebrity is involved, they almost
37:17
Speaker 4: seem to think that it can't possibly be their fault or.
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Speaker 1: That somehow they it should be excused. Like in this case,
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Speaker 1: the soap opera star Haley Pulos is instead of being
37:30
Speaker 1: behind bars at a rehab a so called rehab in Malibu,
37:36
Speaker 1: they can cost her thirty grand. You know, the guys
37:41
Speaker 1: you're just listening to, some of them are technical legal
37:46
Speaker 1: term POC's pieces of crap. But it's always a shocker
37:50
Speaker 1: when it's somebody you think you really like. Take a
37:54
Speaker 1: listen to our cut six from WSB.
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Speaker 18: It happened at this Walgreens. According to this police report,
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Speaker 18: Reese Witherspoon's husband was traveling northbound down Peatree Road when
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Speaker 18: he veered into another lane. This is where he was
38:08
Speaker 18: pulled over. But what happened after that? Even with the
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Speaker 18: growing film scene here in Metro Atlanta, as residents around
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Speaker 18: here surprised.
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Speaker 19: According to this Department of Public Safety incident report, actress
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Speaker 19: Reese Witherspoon was a passenger. Her husband, Jim Toth, was
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Speaker 19: the driver and suspected of duy when pulled over twelve
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Speaker 19: forty Friday morning. The report state's forty two year old
38:30
Speaker 19: Toth agreed to a field sobriety test and blew a
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Speaker 19: one point thirty nine on a breathalyzer. It was Witherspoon's actions, though,
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Speaker 19: during her husband's arrest that landed her behind bars too.
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Speaker 1: Oh yes, and we all love Reese Witherspoon. What got
38:46
Speaker 1: into her? I'd say, a couple of glasses of wine.
38:49
Speaker 1: Take a listen, Ralliam, What did I have to say
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Speaker 1: you today?
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Speaker 4: I know what's playing on?
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Speaker 15: Are you going to list? I'm a US citizen, I'm
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Speaker 15: allowed to stand on American.
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Speaker 1: Question.
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Speaker 15: Want to ask you?
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Speaker 4: There not.
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Speaker 15: An American? To beyond beyond nothing? That's a lot you.
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Speaker 2: Order.
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Speaker 1: It brings to mind a friend of mine. He's dead now.
39:34
Speaker 1: Robert Crispin Randy Schapane was a rookie cop. We would
39:39
Speaker 1: have coffee when he would show up for grand jury
39:43
Speaker 1: and I was the a PD. He would tell me
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Speaker 1: all about his wife, they just got married, and how
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Speaker 1: they were starting a family and how love he was.
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Speaker 1: He did a routine traffic stop, and you hear, Witherspoon
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Speaker 1: can ply, why do I have to get in the car?
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Speaker 1: Why can't I stand here and argue with you? Well,
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Speaker 1: the guy that pulled over Sheapany, grabbed a gun and
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Speaker 1: shot him in the head dead. He said, license registration,
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Speaker 1: and that's the last thing he ever said.
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Speaker 10: Sure, that happens a lot. And let me tell you something.
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Speaker 10: You know, the officer is just trying to control the scene.
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Speaker 10: And when people keep coming up and they're intoxicated and
40:22
Speaker 10: they're trying to be aggressive, and they're trying to they're
40:25
Speaker 10: diverting the attention of the officer for his safety, and
40:28
Speaker 10: he's turning his attention to the problem that just got
40:32
Speaker 10: out of the car. I get it's reeth Witherspoon. I
40:35
Speaker 10: get your celebrity. But unfortunately, bad things happen to people,
40:41
Speaker 10: and this is why she went to jail.
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Speaker 8: Alcohol just brings.
40:44
Speaker 10: Out the worst behavior in everybody. And you see it
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Speaker 10: in every single one of these celebrities. They're all intoxicated.
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Speaker 1: That wasn't all of it. Listen to the rest.
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Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 1: My name.
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Speaker 15: You don't need to know my name, not quite. You're
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Speaker 15: about to find out who I am. That's why I'm
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Speaker 15: not really lying about you, sir. But I've told you
41:09
Speaker 15: how things work. You don't get up in my metroduction
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Speaker 15: episode Let's try, I do well good for we had
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Speaker 15: a mult.
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Speaker 5: Of all the structure ye really, I mean anti American
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Speaker 5: roads it down.
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Speaker 15: Wow, so interesting.
41:30
Speaker 1: You know, it seems like it never ends with Reese Witherspoon.
41:36
Speaker 1: No one was hurt, and the case we're discussing right now,
41:42
Speaker 1: there were two crashes on the interstate. One victim serious,
41:49
Speaker 1: serious bodily injuries, and she is bitching out the fire
41:54
Speaker 1: people because she doesn't want them to somehow harm her
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Speaker 1: four hundred dollars blouse. We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye's
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Speaker 1: height