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HUGE COCKS, RELIGION AND A HIGH SCHOOL CRUSH · CALL ME MISTRESS

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  Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Call Me Mistress.
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  I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia, and I have Madam Liz.
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  Always. Hi, good morning, guys.
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  Yes, good morning now live. We've had an interesting week,
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  always I. Don't think we've had an
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  uninteresting week. Even whenever we didn't have
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  work, we still had snow. I know.
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  You know what it means. It's like no matter what, it's
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  interesting. It's snowed in Florida for the
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  first time. She's trying to get comfortable,
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  you know? Yeah, it was 10 inches. 10
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  inches of snow of snow. In Florida, on the beach.
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  Yeah. On the beach, there was on the.
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  Beach, it was beautiful. Wild.
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  But we love 10 inches. Yeah, the more the merrier.
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  Exactly so can you ever say that you remember like seeing like
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  the best, prettiest Dick Yes And then interesting how we just
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  like Oh yeah, yeah, I. Remember, I remember that pretty
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  late. Yeah, he could be a model for
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  his Dick. See.
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  Tell us about it. He was my my couple, one of my
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  couples and he had like the perfect length, the perfect head
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  shape. He knew how to work it.
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  So it's like no bad at sexual experience ever with him.
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  Wow. He and he had a great
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  personality. So it's like usually when they
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  got a great Dick and then they know where they got a great
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  Dick, they usually are Dicks and they're mean or annoying.
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  Arrogant. Yeah.
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  And was he? No, he's funny.
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  Like you would think that he had a small Dick if you met him.
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  Wow. But he was great.
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  That's awesome, I think. It was like 9 1/2 inches.
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  Oh, wow, Yeah, wow. That's all awesome.
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  What's your Dick? You know, there's, there's been
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  a few. Black and white.
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  Well. We're in the end, I don't know
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  I'll. Tell you a few I so.
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  Feel like I've had a lot so I got AI, got a list.
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  Oh gosh. OK, so you mentioned black.
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  So there was a really attractive black gentleman and he super
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  nice guy. We were, you know, I think we
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  want to see if there was something there.
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  And you know, we went out a couple times.
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  I thought I really like him. I really wasn't ready
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  emotionally because I had just gotten over a divorce that
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  dragged the fuck out and it was awful.
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  And so, so he was, he was half, he was half black, half white,
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  you know, 6, two light skinned, just beautiful.
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  And, you know, he'd send me pictures of his penis before,
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  and I was like, damn, it looks really big.
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  Like, frightening big. Yeah.
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  And so it was one of those Dicks that was probably best off in a
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  museum. Really.
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  Yeah. Like even in person?
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  Even in person, so before your time, OK, When they had actual
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  cordless phones that came out in like the late 80s, OK, they were
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  super big. They were like 12 to 410 inches
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  long. They had an antenna to them that
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  was like a rubber antenna. It was fucking huge, right?
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  Well, for some reason he compared that to the size of his
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  deck. Of course he did of.
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  Course, and the reason being it was because it was that fucking
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  huge. Oh, it was like 14 inches long.
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  The girth was ginormous. Like, like oh.
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  My God, baseball. Bat Ginormous.
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  Did you do? Anything with it?
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  See your face? Did you make it?
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  So no, let me tell you, OK. So I told him I'm like, look, my
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  ex-husband, you know, he was like six 6 1/2 inches.
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  I said, you know, I've, I've played with multiple hundreds of
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  people. You know, I've never had
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  anything that big. And he's like he's like, trust
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  me. He's like we'll do it
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  missionary. I'll be in front of you.
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  I'll go slow. I won't don't just, you know,
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  force it in there. I've had to do this my entire
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  life. Poor thing.
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  Yeah. And I was like, I trust you,
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  totally trust you. And I said, well, let me use my
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  Hitachi wand. Now, at this point, this chick
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  has never been fisted, never been crazy, never done anal.
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  I don't like anal, never done any of this.
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  OK. And so when when he started
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  that, it was like, oh fuck. Stretching.
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  Like, really stretch. I'm like, Oh yeah.
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  Did you bleed? I did.
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  I bled with the nine and a half one.
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  See. Yeah, that's why I said just
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  that. Just.
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  Too much. I couldn't ever be on top of
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  him. Without waiting now.
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  Did he go all the way in? No, God no, no, no.
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  I would say maybe four or five inches.
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  I was doing the Hitachi one. Nah, there was and there was no
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  like. He never is going to be able to
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  get something like that where he gives like a good.
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  Pounding in there. Put in there.
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  You know, unless he's working with somebody and you know he
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  spends enough time with someone well enough to stretch that shit
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  out. I'm not one of those people.
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  I don't want my shit stretched. Like that I should stretch you
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  out either. Yeah, you know, and I'm like
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  you, I was your age at the time. Yeah, you know, feel like I.
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  Have a whole life ahead of me. I don't know what I want.
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  I might want a four and a half later.
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  You can't after that. Exactly.
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  I was in my late 20s and I was like, yeah.
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  And so, you know, I got him off. He got me me off, but we did not
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  get off with that Dick and it was sad.
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  It was kind of like, Oh yeah, I think the score are going to
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  have to end it. And the thing of it is, he
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  really liked me, but I fucking ghosted him.
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  Because of this big Dick. Yes, wow, I did and I I felt so
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  bad and you know, we kind of stayed stayed friends later
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  because finally I just I finally just messaged him on Facebook
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  and I'm like, look, it's not you.
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  It was never you. I was.
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  Your Dick. I said I just, I couldn't see it
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  working, you know, having this massive thing in our lives where
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  it wouldn't be that great because that's not great sex to
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  me. No, great.
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  To be careful the whole time, yeah.
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  No. No, you want to be not careful
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  and borderline kill somebody. Yeah, that's what you want.
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  Yeah, not actually kill somebody.
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  Yeah, yeah, I don't. Want you touching my heart not
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  in that way. I'm gonna try to go back on my
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  e-mail and I'll find it, find the picture of it so you can
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  see. It was beautiful, it really was.
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  But man, I hurt his feelings so bad.
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  I bet he cried because he. Finally had to do with that all
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  the time people saying that to him.
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  Yeah, I felt bad. But, you know, the thing of it
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  is coincidentally, he told me that, you know, his his baby
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  Mama because he had a daughter from his previous marriage.
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  Umm, he's like, you know, she took it like a champ.
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  Really. Yeah.
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  And I was like, well. OK, so somebody that people came
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  some of. That Yeah.
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  So OK, you know, she just, she stretched that shit out, I
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  guess. Yeah.
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  I just not one of those people, you know?
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  Yeah, You know, I get freaked out when I've seen people.
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  I think there was a couple of they were over in like Ireland
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  or Scotland, something over there near the UK, but the guy
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  tried to put his head and his wife's vagina.
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  Oh, I seen that. You saw that.
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  OK. That's on a a porn.
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  See. Yeah.
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  I looked at that. Yeah, I that's what I was
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  picturing. The dark, dark times of the of
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  the porn where you just kind of start digging in some really
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  creepy stuff. I've done that.
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  When you're not horny, I'm doing.
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  That no, I still got off to it. Oh God, God, you're a fucking
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  shame of. I couldn't do it.
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  I was like, I was like. His whole head, like it was like
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  past his ears. He was bald too, so.
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  Yeah, no. Hey, don't judge me, you crack
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  me I. Was so damn funny.
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  Oh God, we're going to have to talk sometime on an episode
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  about crazy porn like that. Oh yeah, yeah, there's.
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  Yeah, yeah. And what we actually got off to
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  with crazy porn. So.
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  So that was one beautiful cock, right.
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  So I've talked about my friend who had a 27 inch long Dick.
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  I talked about that before on the on the podcast.
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  Yeah, I remember. But there was one other
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  gentleman and this this was pretty fucked up, honestly.
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  Super nice guy. He was from South America.
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  He'd been in the States most of his life.
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  But damn, you know, he's beautiful, you know, olive skin,
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  just really good looking guy, right?
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  Crazy shit. So this guy, he would fucking
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  eat pussy like a dream. He had just an 8 inch cock,
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  perfect size, you know, everything was perfect in so
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  many ways. Now he wanted a relationship.
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  I really wasn't interested in a relationship.
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  Again, being married to a fucking nightmare.
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  You don't really want to get into a relationship with people.
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  Right away. No, and he just, I, I really
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  just couldn't see it with him. He didn't have a lot of baggage,
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  but it just wasn't there. But I told him, I said let's
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  just have fun and blah blah, go from there.
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  Anyway, I didn't hear from him for a while and I was like, this
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  is weird. This is weird.
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  So I thought, huh, well, you know what, I'm going to do
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  something interesting. I'm just going to type in jail
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  view for my city, thank you. Well, and then I googled his
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  name. Ohh guess what?
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  Motherfucker got arrested for what?
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  Funny thing. OK, because at the same time I
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  was having sex with another guy. Beautiful cop, semi decent
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  looking guy. Not you know, he's one of those.
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  He's an average guy, bald. I'm not really into bald dudes.
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  Height, weight, height, weight. Proportioned OK, but really
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  wasn't my type. Anyway, I hadn't heard from him
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  either and I was like this is weird.
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  I never get ghosted and I look up his name.
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  Well, apparently these two motherfuckers.
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  Found out about each other. No.
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  Oh no, they were both fucking pedophiles.
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  Oh yeah, they had gone and the Escambia County did a sting
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  operation here where they were either posing as a 13 year old
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  girl or 13 year old boy, and these two guys went on there.
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  It was like minor a solicitation of a minor illegal activity via
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  Internet. I mean it was crazy they had
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  like this long list of charges, but they were both charged with
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  fucking pedophilia. Dang.
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  And sending dirty pictures of themselves to an alleged minor.
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  And this was a sting. So it wasn't a minor, but they
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  posed as a minor to, to and true these people.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Dang. And apparently that was his
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  second offense. So they were both in fucking
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  jail for quite some time and then they eventually went to
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  prison. Dang.
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  And that's some shit. Both your guys, both.
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  My guys are beautiful Dicks, I know.
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  Well, jail likes them now. Jail likes them now.
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  That's it, yeah. And see, I, I instincts served
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  me well because I'm just like, yeah, I.
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  Guess I haven't had anymore, and I think I've only had one.
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  Beautiful. I mean, you know, like you
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  always. Yeah, you have great Dick, but
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  there's always that one you're just like.
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  Wow. Yeah, that's a good looking big.
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  Right. Oh, I had one.
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  Yeah. But I haven't really had that
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  many. I know you haven't had that
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  many. I mean, yeah.
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  But that's OK. OK, I'll edit that.
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  OK, All right. So we talked about this.
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  We were talking earlier just you and I off off the the podcast,
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  we were talking about religion with sex and BDSM.
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  What's your take on that? I don't know, because there's a
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  it depends on what you're talking because even like
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  marital sex, because usually that's what you're always
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  supposed to be doing in the covenant of your marriage and
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  marital sex, even that you're just like when you are married,
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  you still have like questions like, well, am I doing that?
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  If I do it this way, does that mean that I'm doing it ungodly?
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  Like it's the only missionary that you're allowed to do?
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  Like what else is OK? And you know, it's just how in
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  religion, because I, I feel I'm not Christian.
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  I, I feel like I believe in God. I feel like I'm on a spirit
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  spiritual level connected, but I am, I would say I'm not
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  religious at all. I I do not.
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  I find that side of community just usually hypocritical.
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  So in the past couple weeks we've had different people that
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  have been repressed by religion. Yeah, usually.
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  And they're like, oh, I don't want to.
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  I was scared to come in here because of, you know, scared of
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  their parents or God or how they view things.
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  I don't know why religion does that to people.
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  It's interesting, isn't it? Yeah, because like a lot of the
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  times, like, like even with me, like I thought the devil was
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  haunting me just because of things I was thinking about.
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  And, you know, like you think, well, I can't get these thoughts
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  out of my head, so am I going to be stuck like this forever?
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  And I can't let them out, can't talk about them.
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  So I'm stuck inside of myself with something else that's not
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  that's being mean to me saying that I shouldn't be thinking
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  these things. But So what do you do with that?
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  Could you imagine yourself like seven years ago and saying, hey,
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  guess what, You're going to be a dominatrix?
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  I think if I knew that I think I would be, would have been proud
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  of myself that I made it through whatever it is I was going
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  through because, you know, because I did live with that.
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  I did live with religional, religious suppression of like my
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  kinks or just any of this like sexual desires on things.
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  Like just just living with it, it haunts you.
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  It will literally eat you from the inside out.
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  Like like mold just growing in there.
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  That's one way of putting it. I guess that's the only way I
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  knew how. Because it's black and you just
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  get, you feel dirty. You don't, you don't feel like
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  you know you're worthy of being loved because you, why are you
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  am I thinking these thoughts? But everybody thinks these
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  thoughts. Everybody does.
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  Maybe not specifically my thoughts, but they always have
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  that little voice in their head that says things to them, you
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  know, like, hey, like I like doing butt stuff and I can't
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  tell nobody. OK, well, it's OK, you know,
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  Like, that's why we're here. That's why I'm here.
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  Yeah, 'cause you want to do butt stuff.
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  I mean that too sometimes if you're clean.
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  I like doing butt stuff. Oh, God, yeah.
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  Please be clean. You know, Wow.
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  I was telling you a story yesterday.
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  We were in the car and I was like, you know, Liv, when I was
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  in high school, I went to a Pentecostal high school and I
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  was there for for almost three years.
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  I didn't go there a complete three years because I I just
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  couldn't take it anymore. So I could deal with the fact
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  that I couldn't wear makeup or jewelry.
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  I was, I was fine with that, but I was around these girls who
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  they couldn't watch anything other than Mama's family and
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  Andy Griffith, OK. And so to even breathe a word of
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  something outside of all of that, you know, I I didn't want
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  to talk about MTVI, didn't want to talk about HBO, you know, and
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  I was watching real sex. I mean, my parents were very
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  open to, to talk to me about anything.
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  And, you know, they would tell me, hey, this is a rated R
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  movie. But, you know, if there's
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  certain things on here you don't need to see, you know, you need
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  to close your eyes. Yeah.
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  Sorry with my kids. Hey, there's a bad part.
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  Come and close your eyes. Yeah, you know, but these girls
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  in school, I, I ran into one recently and she, I told her
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  what I do. And she's like, yeah, I always
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  knew you were going to do something kinky.
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  And I was like, fuck, I wonder why?
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  I wonder why she thought that. But you know, so I, I had this
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  crush on this guy. I'll tell the listeners this.
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  I had this crush on the sky because I, I went there my, the
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  end of my 8th grade year because it was a small school and it was
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  blended in, you know, from the 8th grade into the seniors.
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  We were all in one classroom because it was only like 20 of
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  US, 2025 of us, you know, but you know, I, I liked this kid
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  and he was, he looked Italian. I think he was Italian descent,
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  but you know, 62 attractive, you know, he just to me, he was
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  always put together and he wore, you know, the a leather jacket,
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  black leather jacket too. So I was like, oh shit, you
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  know, and I and I always watch like mob movies, so like, you
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  know, sexy Italian, you know, mafia, you know, but he was just
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  sexy. He really was.
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  He was so freaking sexy. But I didn't tell you something
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  about this yesterday because I totally forgot until we started
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  talking about beautiful cocks, right?
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  But anyway, so I never told this kid through high school that I
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  had a crush on him, never told him.
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  And we were, you know, very like, and like I said, a small
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  group of all of us. And so we all hung out, you
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  know, we were all friendly to one another.
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  Now they would make fun of me because I was Catholic.
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  They would say, oh, you're worshiping the Virgin Mary and
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  blah blah blah. And I'm like, hey, your church.
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  You fucking charm snakes. You bring snakes into your
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  fucking church, you know, and you speak in tongues.
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  That makes no fucking sense. And your Mama puts on a big old
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  act in church like she saved and she's not because I see her
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  outside smoking and drinking in her fucking car.
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  So big fucking hypocritical church.
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  These people, they came down from Indiana and they, they were
• 18:03
  all kind of related, you know, cousins, brother, sister, blah,
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  blah, blah. And so there was like kind of
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  like seven or eight families and they bought this plot of land
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  and they started building these, this, this school and property
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  on there to live on this property.
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  So it was like almost a commune in a sense.
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  And eventually, you know, they went off and they, you know,
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  bought their own homes and that kind of thing, But it was still
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  a commune. So they couldn't swim together
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  in the, the actual indoor pool that was there.
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  And if girls went swimming, they had to wear long, long, cool
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  lots. They couldn't wear pants and
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  they couldn't wear skirts, but they could wear cool lots which
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  are big. Like big big pants legs, you
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  know? But they're just a below the
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  knee. Weirdest fucking shit ever.
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  That is weird. Yeah, they couldn't swim girls.
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  What? Couldn't swim with boys and vice
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  versa. You couldn't swim boys, yet you
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  still had to wear that. Yes.
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  OK. Yeah, makes no fucking sense.
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  And even if it was a sibling, you could not swim with your
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  sibling. Yeah.
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  So they, when they went to the beach, they weren't allowed to
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  swim like that. They had to swim, you know,
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  completely away from each other. Weirdest fucking shit.
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  And they had like just weird religious bullshit.
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  Well, the guy who I had the crush on, he wasn't related to
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  any of them. His parents went to another
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  church, but it was still Pentecostal.
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  But they weren't neurotic like his mom still put on makeup and
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  and more jewelry, unlike the other Pentecostals.
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  And so it was crazy to see a lot of them.
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  They would always try to step out of their religion.
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  Like they would try to do things to kind of like breakthrough the
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  boundaries. Like, you know, you'd see some
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  of the moms wear lipstick, you know, Well, they'd eventually be
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  reprimanded. So weird.
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  It was so weird, right? But at one point, you know, it's
• 20:05
  a private school. I'm paying my own tuition.
• 20:09
  I had a set up scholarship program that, you know, my
• 20:14
  parents set aside for me that I paid for my own.
• 20:17
  And I know they took me to the office one time because I wore a
• 20:20
  brooch. It was, you know, and they
• 20:22
  considered it jewelry. And I said, hey, look, I pay my
• 20:24
  own tuition here, you know, you like my money.
• 20:28
  Is there going to be an issue? You know, so I still wore my
• 20:32
  brooch, you know, but they were assholes.
• 20:35
  But anyway, this kid that I liked, he wasn't a part of any
• 20:38
  of them. And so he would always try to,
• 20:41
  you know, break the rules in a sense.
• 20:44
  I never got any type of vibe off of him, but I thought, you know,
• 20:48
  he was really flirty with one of our mutual friends, and she was
• 20:52
  a hot blonde with big titties. I thought, oh, he must like her.
• 20:55
  Must like her. Well, after we all graduated
• 20:58
  from high school, we obviously didn't keep in touch.
• 21:02
  There wasn't Facebook, there wasn't any of that.
• 21:04
  And so years later, it was probably 5 or 6 years later, I
• 21:08
  finally just called him. I'm like, fuck it, I'm going to
• 21:10
  call him. I said, hey, do you want to, you
• 21:12
  want to meet me after work, maybe have dinner, you know?
• 21:16
  And so we came by my work, we went out and it was weird
• 21:20
  because a few nights before all this, I had this dream and it
• 21:23
  was deja vu. I played everything out in my
• 21:28
  mind the way it was going to happen.
• 21:30
  And it was like, wow, like what the fuck happened?
• 21:34
  Like am I, am I in my dream? It was so weird.
• 21:38
  And so I was going to tell him that night after dinner and
• 21:41
  everything that I was in love with him.
• 21:43
  I just loved him from the moment I met him and I knew him.
• 21:47
  And I mean, and here I was, you know, 2122 years old and I was
• 21:51
  still enamored with this guy and I hadn't seen him in since I was
• 21:54
  1617 years old. So anyway, I told him and he
• 22:00
  said I'm gay. And I knew he was going to say
• 22:03
  it. I had that in my dream.
• 22:04
  He was going to say it. The weirdest shit ever.
• 22:07
  Yeah, it's wild. It's wild, right?
• 22:10
  Well, the one thing I forgot to tell you in all of this, 'cause
• 22:13
  I wasn't thinking about is Dick. But we, we ran into each other a
• 22:19
  few years later after this. This is, again, we see each
• 22:22
  other maybe seven or eight years later at my nephew's wedding.
• 22:27
  And that night after he left the wedding, I said, hey, why don't
• 22:31
  you come over to my sister's house?
• 22:33
  You know, she lives a few miles up the road.
• 22:35
  We can all hang out. And, and we did.
• 22:40
  And so I ended up calling him like the next day after we hung
• 22:45
  out all night and this and that. And I said to him, I said, I
• 22:51
  understand you're gay. Have you explored being with
• 22:55
  anybody? He says no.
• 22:57
  He said honestly, I may never, you know, and he says the idea
• 23:02
  of anal sex, he's like grosses me out.
• 23:07
  He said if anything I would be OK with like rubbing my Dick and
• 23:11
  scissoring with another guy, He said.
• 23:13
  But the thought of anal sex just grosses me out and I've.
• 23:17
  Always wondered if gay people ever thought that.
• 23:20
  Well, yeah, you know that that was his perception, you know,
• 23:25
  First time I had heard it, honestly.
• 23:27
  Because you think about how many guys we like that that come to
• 23:30
  the dungeon that want a fucking Dick in their ass.
• 23:32
  We're like, oh, everybody like. It I know I was like, what?
• 23:36
  You don't like a Dick in your ass?
• 23:37
  What? But but we were having a
• 23:41
  conversation and, you know, in my 20s, I was doing phone sex
• 23:45
  for money. You know, I was having phone
• 23:48
  sex. I made very good money doing it.
• 23:51
  And so when I was talking to him on the phone, I was seductive.
• 23:54
  And he's like, are you trying to seduce me?
• 23:58
  He's like, you know, I can't really turn straight, right?
• 24:04
  And I'm like, that's not what I'm doing.
• 24:06
  I'm, you know, I'm talking to you the way I would talk to a
• 24:08
  guy who I'm attracted to. And you know, if you perceive it
• 24:12
  that way, I'm sorry. I said it was great seeing you
• 24:17
  and blah, blah, blah. And he's like, look, he's like,
• 24:21
  if it makes things better for you, I'm going to tell you this.
• 24:23
  He's like, I would have chosen you years ago to to be in this
• 24:28
  whole lie he said. But I knew I couldn't hurt you
• 24:31
  or anybody else by doing this. He's like, but honestly, me, if
• 24:37
  it makes things better, I have a tiny Dick.
• 24:40
  He's like, it's not even, you know, 3 inch long Dick.
• 24:44
  He's like, I don't even know what I can do with it.
• 24:47
  He's like, it sucks. And you know, he's a submissive,
• 24:52
  you know, and that's more of a reason why I was attracted to
• 24:55
  him too, because I love submissive men.
• 24:57
  But yeah, the fact that he has a tiny penis, he's gay, and he's
• 25:02
  never been with a man. And then I told you, I said
• 25:06
  I've, I've got to send you a now picture of what he looks like.
• 25:10
  And, you know, I haven't changed much.
• 25:13
  Yeah, I've gained weight like you do in your 20s and 30s, and
• 25:18
  you change and your body changes when you get older because, you
• 25:22
  know, I'm almost 50. But I looked at pictures of him
• 25:26
  and I was like, holy fuck, what the fuck happened, you know?
• 25:33
  And I told you I was like, yeah, I said, you know, Liv, I said,
• 25:37
  he's got Gray hair. It's like thinning.
• 25:41
  He's thin, he's frail. He he's hunched over and he's
• 25:46
  bald. And you're like, well, you know,
• 25:47
  but you can't really can't help if you're bald.
• 25:49
  I said, look, you think about how many guys that we've seen
• 25:53
  that are in their 50s and 60s and they still color their hair.
• 25:56
  They get hair pieces, they get hair plugs.
• 25:58
  And he's got the money for it, you know?
• 26:01
  And it's like he just, like, it's like he curled up and just
• 26:05
  died inside because he's so religiously oppressed because
• 26:11
  his brother's a pastor, you know, that religion is just an
• 26:15
  every fucking day thing just shoved down your throat, you
• 26:18
  know? Yeah.
• 26:23
  And that's how a lot of them are, you know?
• 26:26
  Yeah, that's why when they come here, they always leave a little
• 26:29
  bit better. You know, you get a taste of
• 26:32
  what you like and then you can live your life in some sort of a
• 26:39
  little bit more healthier way. Yeah.
• 26:42
  Versus hiding it. I didn't mean to monopolize the
• 26:46
  whole episode here, but I know you.
• 26:49
  You're intently listening to me and you're like I.
• 26:51
  Was I was listening? I was.
• 26:53
  Listening. I've heard, I've heard the
• 26:55
  story, and I still was listening because you did have a couple
• 26:56
  things in it I didn't hear before.
• 26:58
  So yeah, yeah, I was in Dunling. I'm not.
• 27:00
  Sure, you picture this guy because like I said, God, he was
• 27:02
  so handsome in school. That's like what the fuck
• 27:05
  happened? Usually it's the handsome ones
• 27:07
  that end up, but then it's always the thugs.
• 27:09
  Guys that looking good when they get older, yes.
• 27:12
  Like I keep an eye on them. Smart weirdos, crazy coming out,
• 27:14
  looking around. But, you know, so it brings me
• 27:19
  back to this. So we've had the puppy Sissy.
• 27:23
  He talked about, you know, religion being constantly there
• 27:26
  throughout his life. You know, his mother fucking
• 27:30
  just beats him down to where she's completely controlling and
• 27:35
  it drives him crazy. And then we've got the one
• 27:38
  gentleman who is an interpreter and really, yeah, he's an
• 27:43
  interpreter. Remember, he's always talking
• 27:44
  with his hands. Well, he told me he's like, oh,
• 27:46
  yeah, I'm an interpreter. He was telling me that he
• 27:52
  remember, he likes the spankings, OK.
• 27:54
  And he was getting these spankings because when he was a
• 27:57
  kid, he'd get the spankings and. They're talking about my guy,
• 28:01
  right? Yeah, we're talking about your
• 28:02
  guy. The sweet guy with the pretty
• 28:04
  eyes. Yeah.
• 28:06
  I didn't know. Yeah, he told me that he was, I
• 28:09
  want to say. I knew he was Christian, yeah,
• 28:13
  but I I didn't remember about that part.
• 28:15
  Yeah. But OK, Yeah, it's it's, you
• 28:17
  know, his parents are extremely religious, so he dealt with
• 28:21
  extreme religion in his childhood.
• 28:23
  Yeah, I knew that much. Yeah, And his parents were huge
• 28:27
  disciplinarians, you know, And it sounded like he, as a kid
• 28:30
  wanted to rebel. And, you know, they weren't
• 28:32
  having it. It was fucking religion.
• 28:34
  And. He.
• 28:34
  I mean, he and he's not really even rebellious or rebelling
• 28:37
  because my mom. She was kid, yeah.
• 28:40
  Mom, say my mom was repressed religiously when she was little
• 28:43
  because my my granny and my pawpaw.
• 28:44
  But when she went wild, she went wild.
• 28:46
  You know, she was stripping. She was getting married real
• 28:50
  young, having kids real young. She was running away.
• 28:53
  Like that's the type of rebellious you think is going to
• 28:56
  happen. Not, you know, like you just
• 28:57
  want to go to a dominatrix and, you know, fulfill some sort of
• 29:01
  fantasy like, yeah, that's not bad.
• 29:03
  You know you're going to be bad. Yeah, being bad.
• 29:05
  No, I was thinking about like when he was a kid, you know,
• 29:08
  when he was probably 1010 to 17 years of age, he was probably
• 29:12
  doing little things that irritated his parents, so they
• 29:15
  lashed out and punished him in the sense of spanking him, You
• 29:18
  know, I. Wonder if he liked it when he
• 29:19
  was a kid. Oh, probably not.
• 29:21
  Yeah, because I didn't like it when I was a kid and I like it
• 29:23
  now. So it's like why?
• 29:24
  You like to be spanked, huh? Yeah, Don't we all?
• 29:28
  No. All right, Just wait.
• 29:33
  That's fun. Maybe even spanked the right
• 29:36
  person, huh? Yeah, you know Bree.
• 29:40
  Uh huh. So Bree grew up in Church of
• 29:42
  Christ and her father was a pastor.
• 29:44
  And that one surprised me. Yeah, he's still a pastor.
• 29:48
  He is a very well known author. He has published multiple books
• 29:52
  on religion. You'll find him, you Google his
• 29:54
  name, he's on YouTube. He's everywhere in that sense of
• 29:59
  always being in the public eye with Church of Christ.
• 30:02
  But the shit that happened in her church with the people
• 30:05
  around her beyond fucked up. Yeah.
• 30:07
  I mean, yeah, most of, like, my first sexual experience with a
• 30:11
  threesome was at church. You know, most things that are
• 30:14
  bad first happened at church. The little rebellious youngins.
• 30:17
  Yeah, they're being suppressed. And they get, you know, to a
• 30:20
  point where they're just like, oh, I'm gonna just do whatever.
• 30:22
  Yeah, interesting, isn't it? I went to a private school too
• 30:28
  and you'll be wild over there too.
• 30:30
  Charles had told me a funny story.
• 30:32
  You know, he, he lives in Mississippi, it's very rural
• 30:35
  where he's at. And he ended up a couple years
• 30:38
  ago dating finding this woman, dating her, and she was a church
• 30:41
  going girl. Oh.
• 30:43
  Yeah, and that's not Charles. No.
• 30:47
  And she wanted him to conform and, you know, be that good
• 30:50
  religious boy and, you know, follow her.
• 30:52
  Her good godly ways. Yeah, the funniest shit was that
• 30:56
  she was sexually repressed in a big way and then he went and
• 31:00
  started licking her ass. And she her doors were open.
• 31:03
  Ohh yeah. She had an awakening when?
• 31:06
  Big awakening, but then I think. Lick Remover brought her back to
• 31:09
  life. I've never heard that before The
• 31:13
  hind leg. That's great.
• 31:14
  That is great. Past people have come on the
• 31:17
  episodes of of the podcast that we've talked about and you know,
• 31:22
  everybody has seems like from every religion, every realm, you
• 31:26
  know, there's something but. It's like just live your life
• 31:29
  and live the best of your ability as being a good person.
• 31:32
  Absolutely. Because every Bible is
• 31:33
  different. You got different religions,
• 31:35
  different, different gods. And it's just like, how do you
• 31:37
  know what you're doing right? And then why does it feel so
• 31:39
  wrong? You know, why do I feel worse
• 31:41
  when I go church? Yeah.
• 31:42
  Why do I feel like a Sinner when I go to church?
• 31:44
  Because I'm being told I'm doing something wrong.
• 31:46
  Maybe I am doing something wrong.
• 31:47
  Maybe we're all doing something wrong.
• 31:49
  But you know, I'm not gonna sit there and live in that feeling.
• 31:51
  We're gonna, I'm gonna live my life to the fullest and I'm
• 31:53
  gonna look at the sky and enjoy the sky.
• 31:55
  You know, like, yeah, we're gonna go.
• 31:56
  We're gonna go enjoy our life. We're not gonna sit here and
• 31:59
  repress ourselves. At least not me.
• 32:01
  Y'all little Christians can do that if y'all want to or not
• 32:03
  just Christians. There's other religions.
• 32:05
  Oh yeah, that repress themselves because of the same reasons.
• 32:08
  Yeah, absolutely. Once you once you get out of it,
• 32:11
  you feel so much Betty. You're like, Oh my God, it
• 32:13
  wasn't that bad. I'm not a Sinner for it.
• 32:15
  You know what I mean? Like, you're not a Sinner.
• 32:16
  Well, we're all sinners, but you're not like the worst of the
• 32:19
  worst. And we're gonna go to hell
• 32:20
  because of it. You're not a.
• 32:21
  Deviant. Yeah, just say deviant.
• 32:24
  Yeah, we're not horrible people just because of.
• 32:26
  It I think, I think Jesus, when he was walking around with his
• 32:29
  12 disciples, you know, he's out there in the desert.
• 32:32
  You got us hanging out. Rubbed a lot.
• 32:34
  I'm sure he was in something. Absolutely Mary Magdalene.
• 32:37
  Probably a good show. Wasn't wasn't she like a a
• 32:41
  process? She was and.
• 32:43
  That was the one woman he was in love with.
• 32:44
  Yeah. You know, so it's like even God
• 32:47
  has weaknesses. Absolutely.
• 32:49
  These are our weaknesses, we just turn them into.
• 32:51
  Strength. There you go.
• 32:52
  We don't let them. We don't let them tear us down
• 32:54
  anymore. All right, Liv, I think we've
• 32:57
  bored them enough with our stories.
• 32:59
  Just. Kidding.
• 33:02
  All right, so until then, this includes the episode of Call Me
• 33:06
  Mistress. Why?
• 33:07
  What? Yes, Liv.
• 33:08
  What? This concludes the episode of
• 33:09
  what? You said call me Mistress.
• 33:11
  I know I did already, didn't I? And then I was like, bye, all
• 33:16
  right, bye, guys.