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Sharri | 25 November · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Sharry Good Evening, Big
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Speaker 1: Show tonight, coming up, how Anthony Albanezi has changed Australia
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Speaker 1: for the worst as the cost of living crisis creeps
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Speaker 1: up ahead of the federal election. Pro Palestinian protesters are
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Speaker 1: tonight as you've been hearing descending on a Melbourne synagogue
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Speaker 1: despite being told to counsel. Will go live to the
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Speaker 1: scene in a moment. Also tonight, exclusive revelations that a
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Speaker 1: man with a Hesbla tattoo on his neck has been
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Speaker 1: charged over the anti Semitic rampage in Sydney's East. He
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Speaker 1: was about to leave the country when police swooped at
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Speaker 1: Sydney Airport. Those exclusive details in a moment, And Labor
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Speaker 1: faces its own problem with women after Richard Miles's chief
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Speaker 1: of staff takes claims of bullying to court. But first,
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Speaker 1: as we sit here tonight, a month from Christmas, it
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Speaker 1: appears less and less likely that Albanzi will win the
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Speaker 1: next election. I say this not based on the polls,
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Speaker 1: although the polls are sharply tracking downward, but based on
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Speaker 1: the climate in Australia right now. Labour say ober Peter Dutton,
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Speaker 1: he's unelectable, but he's not looking so unelectable right now.
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Speaker 1: Albanize also claims he is reassured by the fact that
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Speaker 1: it's been nearly one hundred years since Labor had a
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Speaker 1: one term government. In fact, it was the Great Depression
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Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty one that saw Labor booted after one term.
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Speaker 1: But traditions are currently being shattered In America. There'd been
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Speaker 1: only one president who'd won two non consecutive terms. That
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Speaker 1: was Grover Cleveland in the late eighteen hundreds. Will Trump
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Speaker 1: smash that tradition. He was only the second president in
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Speaker 1: US history and we saw his win was a landslide,
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Speaker 1: three hundred and twelve College votes compared with Kamala's two
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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six. So Albaneze he can't feel comforted
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Speaker 1: by precedent and predictable voting batons when they're being obliterated. Now,
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Speaker 1: what makes Australian voters consider voting Albanzie out is just
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Speaker 1: how he's dramatically reshaped our country without warning or even
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Speaker 1: getting a mandate for it at the last election, and
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Speaker 1: his list of broken promises is mounting now. As you know,
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Speaker 1: Albanzy took a small target agenda to the twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: two election. He sold voters on a dream of cheaper
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Speaker 1: cost of living, lower power bills and petrol prices. This
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Speaker 1: is the prime Minister's greatest failure. Simon Benson reports and
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Speaker 1: I quote that households are suffering the worst decline in
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Speaker 1: living standards since the nineteen fifties, with the fall in
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Speaker 1: real disposable income eclipsing those of the last four major recessions,
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Speaker 1: including the nineteen seventies inflation crisis and the COVID pandemic.
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Speaker 1: Benzonosa reports that the current cost of living crisis is
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Speaker 1: hurting households twice as hard as during the nineteen ninety
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Speaker 1: and eighty two recession. And it's not pretty when you
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Speaker 1: look at how other OECD countries are faring. Here's Australia's
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Speaker 1: real gross household disposable income per capita. That's the figure
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Speaker 1: that you can see in red. It's now falling and
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Speaker 1: compared to the OECD, which is the line in blue
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Speaker 1: that's now rising. That's each household's disposable income Now at
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Speaker 1: the same time, as this graph shows, we're paying more
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Speaker 1: personal income tax than ever and it's forecast to skyrocket further.
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Speaker 1: You can see that forecast the red dotted line again.
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Speaker 1: The worst living standard since the nineteen fifties are now
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Speaker 1: occurring under a Prime Minister who was literally elected on
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Speaker 1: a cost of living platform. Remember how often albert Ezi
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Speaker 1: ram that message home during the election campaign.
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Speaker 2: We've said that our priority is cost of living, putting
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Speaker 2: that downward pressure on inflation whilst making sure that we
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Speaker 2: provide support for families and for people with cost of
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Speaker 2: living pressures. A pressure off cost of living, pressure off
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Speaker 2: the cost of living, the cost of living, cost of living.
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Speaker 1: Now, the cost of living crisis would be reason enough
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Speaker 1: of voters to question voting Albanezi back in, But there's
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Speaker 1: so much more. The competition is tough for Albanesi's worst
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Speaker 1: move since becoming PM, and some of the worst and
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Speaker 1: let's call them albotrocities. There's the misinformation legislation, the radical
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Speaker 1: environmental laws, the big Australia immigration policy that made the
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Speaker 1: housing crisis worse just last week, the political raid on
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Speaker 1: the Future Fund, the Voice failure and the division that
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Speaker 1: came with it, His tolerance for racism against Jews. He's
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Speaker 1: doubling the tax on superannuation for wealthy retirees, and who
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Speaker 1: could forget releasing criminals onto the streets where they've been
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Speaker 1: free to bash grannies. The list is much longer than this.
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Speaker 1: Of course, Albinizi has also refused to sign up to
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Speaker 1: the COP twenty nine nuclear agreement alongside all like minded
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Speaker 1: countries around the world. And then there's the unfathomable decision
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Speaker 1: to grant visas to Palestinians from a terrorist control war
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Speaker 1: zone while refusing a visa for a distinguished former Israeli
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Speaker 1: minister who has family here in Australia, and the Palestinians
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Speaker 1: are here to stay, thousands of them, while the Israeli
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Speaker 1: minister was only meant to come here to speak at
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Speaker 1: a security conference and visit her family. Albinisi, in his
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Speaker 1: Sidekickpenny Wang, also treat allies as enemies and enemies as
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Speaker 1: allies cozying up to China while continually attacking our ally
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Speaker 1: in Israel. Even the Biden administration is perplexed. The moral
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Speaker 1: confusion that we're seeing is astonishing, the capitulation to terrorism inexplicable. Now,
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Speaker 1: Christopher Dare breaks all of this down in his column,
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Speaker 1: easily the most readable in the country, and he writes
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Speaker 1: Australia has changed under Anthony Albanisi. It is more hateful,
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Speaker 1: it is less safe, Its families are poorer, its place
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Speaker 1: in the world less clear, its collective values corroded, its
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Speaker 1: common sense corrupted. We are less united, less happily, less happy,
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Speaker 1: and fundamentally more divided. A change of government has changed
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Speaker 1: our country. It has been slow and subtle. It is
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Speaker 1: now surreal. And his columns on the cover of The
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Speaker 1: Nightly which says the rebrand of Australia gone wrong, and
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Speaker 1: he's spot on, We're all worse off economically and socially.
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Speaker 1: Alban Ezi's fingerprints on almost every facet of our lives
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Speaker 1: is now in upheaval. Without warning or asking for a mandate,
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Speaker 1: alban Ezi imparked on dramatic and dangerous change to our country.
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Speaker 1: And I'm going to come back to discussion about that
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Speaker 1: in a moment with Steve Price and Joe Hildebrand. But
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Speaker 1: I just want to turn now to the breaking news
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Speaker 1: today about the man who police allege is behind that
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Speaker 1: anti Semitic attack in Wallara in Sydney's East where cars
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Speaker 1: and homes were vandalized, one car even torched. Just days
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Speaker 1: after that racist attack shook Sydney at the Country Police
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Speaker 1: today arrested a twenty year old man his name Muhammad
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Speaker 1: far Hat. That was just before four am. Now I've
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Speaker 1: exclusively reported today that Muhammad was about to leave Australia.
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Speaker 1: He was booked on a flight to Thailand when New
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Speaker 1: South Wales police swooped in and made that dramatic arrest
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Speaker 1: at Sydney Airport. I can also reveal that Muhammad has
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Speaker 1: a Hesbala tattoo on the side of his neck. He
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Speaker 1: has another neck tattoo as well with the numbers three
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Speaker 1: one three. This is I'm told of reference to another
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Speaker 1: terrorist group symbol. I'm advised the number three one three
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Speaker 1: is significant in Shea Islam and it is associated with Hesbela.
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Speaker 1: So an apparent Hesbela supporter allegedly went on this anti
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Speaker 1: Semitic rampage in Sydney's East and he's been charged with
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Speaker 1: twenty one offenses. This is scary stuff. A man who
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Speaker 1: has a terror symbol tattooed on his neck, well, you'd
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Speaker 1: hope that he would have been the focus of counter
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Speaker 1: terror police before this. We don't know the answer to that.
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Speaker 1: Mohammed Farat didn't apply for bail and it wasn't granted
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Speaker 1: Today he'll be back in court in early December. Now,
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Speaker 1: he allegedly did an act alone. We know from CCTV
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Speaker 1: you're looking at it now that at least one other
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Speaker 1: person was allegedly on the rampage that night, and my
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Speaker 1: sources tell me we can expect another arrest in the
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Speaker 1: near future. But what we've seen today this is the
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Speaker 1: best case where police acted fast, very fast to catch
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Speaker 1: an alleged perpetrator of anti Semitic violence. And there are
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Speaker 1: two reasons for this amazingly successful outcome. Firstly, New Southwal's police,
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Speaker 1: under the direction of Premier Chris Mins through resources at
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Speaker 1: this they moved extra police onto this strike force, even
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Speaker 1: i'm told, bringing in officers from regional New South Wales.
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Speaker 1: But secondly, i'm told that the alleged perpetrators allegedly left
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Speaker 1: items at the scene that helped police identify them. There
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Speaker 1: were also other factors that helped police, either DNA or fingerprints.
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Speaker 1: Will know those details as it goes through the court
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Speaker 1: process in time. But we can only thank the New
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Speaker 1: Southeal's government and the police for acting so quickly in
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Speaker 1: this instance. It shows what can be done when there's
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Speaker 1: political will, and that is what has been missing and
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Speaker 1: we need more of it because I'm seeing more and
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Speaker 1: more vile racism towards Jews, like this incident that took
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Speaker 1: place in Townsville over the weekend. I mean, that's incredibly
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Speaker 1: distressing in twenty twenty four from a shopkeeper in regional
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Speaker 1: New South Wales. And it's why rabbis are now feeling
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Speaker 1: the need to publicly speak up to implore leaders like
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Speaker 1: Anthony Albineasi to act. Here were two rabbis on Sky
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Speaker 1: News tonight.
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Speaker 3: He is the leader of the country and therefore primary responsibility,
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Speaker 3: I'm afraid, has to rest with him. That's what leadership is.
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Speaker 3: I think he's a man of goodwill. I don't think
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Speaker 3: he's malicious, but I think he has fallen short in
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Speaker 3: exercising the clarity of leadership which is needed at this time.
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Speaker 4: The messaging has to be very clear, unequivocal, and the
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Speaker 4: consequences have very clear and unequivocal, because otherwise who knows
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Speaker 4: where this will end.
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Speaker 1: So Daniel Rabin from Melbourne Benjamin Elton from Sydney, both
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Speaker 1: speaking out for very diplomatic rabbis to have to speak
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Speaker 1: out like this, it shows how dire the situation is
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Speaker 1: we all need to speak up Jews and non Jews alike,
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Speaker 1: especially non Jews, to demand Alban Easy and Penny Wang
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Speaker 1: and Tony Burke do better. The more we stand up
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Speaker 1: to them, the more we speak out, the more we
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Speaker 1: can ensure change. All Right, Lots to come tonight. I've
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Speaker 1: got international human rights lawyer Hillel Noyer on a bit later.
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Speaker 1: Ross Greenwood is also going to join me to discuss
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Speaker 1: how Australia has become the world's biggest cost of living loser.
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Speaker 1: Graham Richardson and David Gazard also coming up later. But
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Speaker 1: now let's bring in Sky News host Steve Prior and
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Speaker 1: also Joe h would around our Monday regular Great to
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Speaker 1: see him Steve. Before we get to Joe, I just
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Speaker 1: quickly want to start with those revelations that I've had
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Speaker 1: today on the Sky News website that a Hasbela supporter
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Speaker 1: was allegedly behind this rampage we saw in Sydney, someone
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Speaker 1: who I'm told by police sources has the Hasbella signed
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Speaker 1: tattooed on his neck. I mean, you'd hope someone like
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Speaker 1: that would have been the focus of counter terror police.
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Speaker 4: You would have thought he would have been at the
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Speaker 4: top of the list, Charring. I mean, he's out at
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Speaker 4: Sydney Airport trying to flee the country. I mean, maybe
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Speaker 4: we would have been better off letting him flee the country,
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Speaker 4: but you just don't. You have to wonder where our
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Speaker 4: canterterrorism forces are at that they don't know that a
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Speaker 4: person like this is potentially able to do what he did. Allegedly,
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Speaker 4: what happened in the eastern suburbs of Sydney was just
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Speaker 4: outrageous and shocking and it's scared lot of people. And
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Speaker 4: let's hope that the due course of the law takes
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Speaker 4: its course and they throw the book at him because
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Speaker 4: this is obviously clearly a dangerous individual.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, all right, and that's all Allegedly, he's under investigation.
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Speaker 1: Police have made those claims. We haven't seen his rebuttal yet. Joe,
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the Misinformation Bill. This
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Speaker 1: is something we've all been campaigning on. The Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: has now been forced to dump this controversial legislation. It
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Speaker 1: didn't have support from anyone in the Senate. The Coalition
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Speaker 1: was against it, the Greens were against it, the Crossbench
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Speaker 1: were against it. I mean, it was madness to think
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Speaker 1: that for a year and a half he pursued this.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to say it's his obsession with censorship.
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Speaker 5: Look, I don't actually think so. I think that the
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Speaker 5: story is a bit more complex than that.
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Speaker 1: Because he was so angry about the Voice and what
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Speaker 1: he thought was misofformation against there was.
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Speaker 5: I think there was a big problem with elements on
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Speaker 5: the left who were upset that the Electricate didn't just
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Speaker 5: do what it was to and anyone who you know,
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Speaker 5: they can't say that all the people who vote against
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Speaker 5: the Voice where you working class immigrants, which they were,
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Speaker 5: because that would make them sound classiest and racist, and
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Speaker 5: so they had to say, oh, they weren't educated enough,
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Speaker 5: and so we have to educate them. We have to
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Speaker 5: protect them from this misinformation similar stuff to COVID as well.
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Speaker 5: So I think it came from an incredibly pretentious but
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Speaker 5: well intentioned place, but it very very quickly became apparent
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Speaker 5: that this thing was at Pandora's box.
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Speaker 6: It needed to.
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Speaker 5: Die, and die quickly. I've never seen a policy pursued
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Speaker 5: with less enthusiasm than this one. They made no attempt,
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Speaker 5: basically to get it through the state, no attempt to
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Speaker 5: negotiate because they wanted it to die. They knew how
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Speaker 5: harmless it was, how hopeless it was. I wrote in
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Speaker 5: a column today that this bill died as friendless as
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Speaker 5: an ayatola at a bar mitzvah, And that's exactly what
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Speaker 5: it did. It had no friends on either side of politics.
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Speaker 5: And I can absolutely assure you that this is something
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Speaker 5: that for weeks now, if not longer, the government has
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Speaker 5: just been sort of waiting to die and just get
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Speaker 5: off the books, get off the decks. So this is
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Speaker 5: not something that they're going to resurrect, and not something
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Speaker 5: they were desperate to do. They realized very quickly. I
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Speaker 5: think that this raised so many questions, created more problems
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Speaker 5: than it solved, and it was just an island of
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Speaker 5: doctor Morome monster.
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Speaker 1: Steve, I want to ask you about my opening comments
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Speaker 1: as well about the cost of living and how dramatically
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Speaker 1: our country is deteriorating under Anthony Albanezi. You know, whether
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Speaker 1: it's his misguided attempts to introduce misinformation laws because he
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Speaker 1: didn't like the outcome of the Voice and he blamed misinformation,
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Speaker 1: whether it's you know, most critically, the cost of living crisis,
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Speaker 1: but every single thing he's doing is turning voters off.
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Speaker 4: The story in The Australian on Saturday really shocked me.
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Speaker 4: I mean to read that our standard of living is
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Speaker 4: now back where we were in the nineteen fifties, that
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Speaker 4: it's much worse than recessions that particularly Joe and I've
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Speaker 4: lived through, and you have two partly Shari and the
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Speaker 4: early eighties and the nineties. That is shocking to read.
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Speaker 4: And Australians are really hurting. I mean, you know, politicians
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Speaker 4: in this country, and I've been thinking about this all
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Speaker 4: day to day, politicians are both sides in this country
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Speaker 4: are starting to really annoy me because many of them,
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Speaker 4: not all of them, but many of them are completely
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Speaker 4: out of touch with what's happening in the real world. Now.
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Speaker 4: People might say that I'm out of touch because you know,
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Speaker 4: I'm reasonably well paid and you know I'm at the
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Speaker 4: end of my working life, but I'm not a politician
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Speaker 4: is trying to steer the country to a better place.
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Speaker 4: And every other OECD country, and my great mate Ross Green,
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Speaker 4: but I'm sure we'll tell you this later, every other
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Speaker 4: OECD country is doing better than Australia. How can that
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Speaker 4: possibly be with all the riches we've got with everything
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Speaker 4: we've got at our disposal, with all the advantages we
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Speaker 4: have over the rest of the world, how can we
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Speaker 4: be sitting here in twenty twenty four going worse. We're
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Speaker 4: a bust at ask country at the moment and it's
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Speaker 4: really really hurting people and it's really disturbing. I think
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Speaker 4: it's I mean, the Labor Party are going to have
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Speaker 4: to really rue the day I think that they put
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Speaker 4: Anthony Albanesi in charge. You made those comments at the
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Speaker 4: start of your program. I agree entirely. The bloke who
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Speaker 4: probably should still have been there is the bloker gave
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Speaker 4: his valedictory speech to Parliament last week in Bill Shorten.
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Speaker 4: Because Labour's done is they've installed a hard left prime minister,
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Speaker 4: he's got a hard left foreign minister exactly, and the
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Speaker 4: Australian public are going we are no better off and
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Speaker 4: these people that are blame.
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Speaker 1: Well, I couldn't agree with you more. I mean alban
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Speaker 1: Ezy pretended that he was going to lead from the center.
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Speaker 1: I mean he gave that interview to you, joe Yorda
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Speaker 1: brand in the election campaign where he said he wasn't
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Speaker 1: going to go woke like, indicating he was becoming a centrist,
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Speaker 1: but ultimately you can't abandon. And he has been a
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Speaker 1: left faction warrior his entire political career.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's been a fixer more than a
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Speaker 5: factional fixer, and a factional warlord, ideological more than an ideological.
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Speaker 5: To be honest, I don't think if you know this
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Speaker 5: sort of hard heads to knock around Sussex Street, they're
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Speaker 5: not a particularly sort of ideological has been ideologically.
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Speaker 1: He was at the protest.
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Speaker 5: I know, I know the footage of the protest, and
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Speaker 5: you know, back then he would have been expected to
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Speaker 5: say certain things. Look, he certainly believes that he has
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Speaker 5: moved to the center, is far more to the center
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Speaker 5: than he has ever been, and just light years, light
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Speaker 5: years away from where he was. Look, I was a
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Speaker 5: stupid student socialist when I was younger, and I've got half.
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Speaker 4: Of Twitter one now.
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Speaker 5: But I think, I think, what what Alban is he
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Speaker 5: has learned is that every time he sort of dips
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Speaker 5: his toe in the water of anything perceived as ideological
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Speaker 5: or wokeness, it hurts very very much, and you get
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Speaker 5: burned and you get punished for it. And we saw
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Speaker 5: that with the Voice, and again he was you know,
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Speaker 5: he responded by dumping all that stuff like a hot potato,
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Speaker 5: by talking about nothing but.
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Speaker 1: Cost introducing misinformation laws.
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Speaker 5: And letting letting those letting those laws are on the
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Speaker 5: line and die.
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Speaker 1: No one is morning in June last year. He fought
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Speaker 1: for them for a year and.
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Speaker 5: They've been They've been sitting in a back room quietly
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Speaker 5: asphyxiating ever since.
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Speaker 4: And then come on, I love you like a brother, Joe,
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Speaker 4: but seriously, seriously, maybe because it's the cheerleading going to stop.
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Speaker 5: I'm just trying to provide some context for it. So again,
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Speaker 5: I've knowd you. I've been highly.
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Speaker 4: Sticking up for your mate.
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Speaker 5: I've been incredibly critical of Labor, and basically for the
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Speaker 5: last three years of Labor being in opposition, I was
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Speaker 5: screaming from rooftop. Feel like me and Joel fits given
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Speaker 5: both publicly. So we have got to ditch all that
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Speaker 5: woe crap. We've got to get the party back from
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Speaker 5: rapped when Donald Trump won the election, because it means
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Speaker 5: the Democrats have to do the same and learn what
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Speaker 5: happens when they start to go on ideological crusades and
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Speaker 5: have steering elites talking down to work.
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Balley nine. There's now
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Speaker 1: a controversy over the Albanese government's decision to bring the
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Speaker 1: remaining Ballei nine members who are in prison back to Australia.
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Speaker 1: This is a deal done with the Indonesian government. Now
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Speaker 1: the coalition has demanded to know what was given in exchange.
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Speaker 6: Have a look what is the deal? What is he
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Speaker 6: extracted in relation for the deal. What is Australia giving
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Speaker 6: up in relation to the deal? How much is it
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Speaker 6: going to cost the Australian taxpayer? Will they continue to
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Speaker 6: serve their prison sentences because they have been sentenced to
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Speaker 6: life imprisonment in Indonesia?
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Speaker 1: Once again Albanezy government refusing to answer. No transparency, another
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Speaker 1: broken promise. Steve Price, what's your view on this? Do
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Speaker 1: you think they've done their time? I mean it was
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Speaker 1: two thousand and five. I was a reporter covering it
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Speaker 1: at the time. Do you think they've done their time
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Speaker 1: or do you reckon? You know, there's no reason for
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Speaker 1: Australia to spend money bringing them back here.
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Speaker 4: I was on the air on radio the night the
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Speaker 4: two ring leaders were executed and that was a horrible
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Speaker 4: thing to have to witness. But these people were trying
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Speaker 4: to bring from memory something like eight kilo's a heroin
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Speaker 4: back into Australia. And they were a variety of involvement
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Speaker 4: in it by all of them, but that's what they were.
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Speaker 4: They were going to be heroin traffickers. They were stupid people.
22:13
Speaker 4: I mean the Australian Federal Police tipped off the Indonesians,
22:16
Speaker 4: as you know, and that's why this crowd got arrested.
22:19
Speaker 4: I'd just like to have one question answered by the government.
22:22
Speaker 4: Why are we doing this? I mean, where was what's
22:25
Speaker 4: the hurry and the Russian? Where did the idea that
22:28
Speaker 4: we needed to do it come from? Who's pushing for this?
22:31
Speaker 4: What were you know, what is Indonesia getting in return
22:35
Speaker 4: for us taking these people off their hands? And I
22:37
Speaker 4: think Micaulia Cash is right to ask all those questions,
22:40
Speaker 4: none of which we got an answer to.
22:42
Speaker 1: I think we do need to know the answers to
22:44
Speaker 1: those questions before we can form a proper judgment Joean
22:47
Speaker 1: whether or not this is a good thing in our
22:49
Speaker 1: national interest.
22:50
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I mean I don't think it's not particularly
22:52
Speaker 5: uncommon for Indonesia to they hand out extremely punitive sentences,
22:57
Speaker 5: including death for these offenses. And again deep is absolutely right.
23:01
Speaker 5: You know, trafficking heroine isn't a victimless crime. It results
23:05
Speaker 5: in hundreds and hundreds of debts and it's an absolutely
23:07
Speaker 5: horrible drug. But you know, as with the case with
23:10
Speaker 5: Chappelle Krby, often what happens is you get, if not
23:13
Speaker 5: a life sense, then a giant sense of say thirty
23:15
Speaker 5: years or something, and then on the president's birthday or
23:18
Speaker 5: a certain public holidays, the President, in his great merciful beneficence,
23:22
Speaker 5: will you know, grant an active clemency or mercy and
23:25
Speaker 5: reduce it. And again it's not unprecedented for people to
23:28
Speaker 5: come from Indonesia and other Southeast Asian countries and finish
23:32
Speaker 5: the rest of their senses in Australia. I'm not sure
23:34
Speaker 5: if it's that big a deal. I don't know if
23:36
Speaker 5: it even would have got to a midiserial level. Apart
23:39
Speaker 5: from just sort of signing it off, there would have
23:41
Speaker 5: been consular officials working behind the scenes. My sister was
23:44
Speaker 5: one of the people in Defat who was trying to
23:47
Speaker 5: stop the Bali nine members from being executed. We all
23:50
Speaker 5: know how that went. But again without sort of saying
23:55
Speaker 5: too much, but there is always work going on behind
23:57
Speaker 5: the scenes trying to get these out. And again I
24:01
Speaker 5: didn't see it coming. This was not on my twenty
24:02
Speaker 5: twenty four being going yeah.
24:03
Speaker 1: No, but once again yeah no mention of any of
24:07
Speaker 1: this before it happens. Joe Hude, Brown, Steve Price, thank
24:10
Speaker 1: you so much for joining me.
24:12
Speaker 5: Thanks.
24:13
Speaker 1: Now I want to take you back to Melbourne. Now
24:16
Speaker 1: we know that the pro Palestinian protesters were told not
24:20
Speaker 1: to turn up to the synagogue in Crawfield tonight. This
24:24
Speaker 1: protest was canceled. The Victorian government stepped in to take
24:29
Speaker 1: action today and yet we're hearing, and you've been seeing
24:32
Speaker 1: on Andrew Bolt that protesters did turn up. Let's go
24:36
Speaker 1: live to this scene. Now we've got Sky News reporter
24:38
Speaker 1: Georgie Dickerson on the ground. So Georgie, what do you
24:42
Speaker 1: know about how many pro Palestinians ignored the ruling that
24:47
Speaker 1: they should be canceled and turned up anyway, Good.
24:51
Speaker 7: Evening, Sharry, Well, around twenty people from my county is
24:54
Speaker 7: the number of pro Palestinian protesters that did turn up.
24:57
Speaker 7: We arrived here around six o'clock tonight outside the synagogue
25:01
Speaker 7: here in Courtfield and there was a slowly the level
25:04
Speaker 7: and the number of the Jewish community started to turn up,
25:07
Speaker 7: and it seemed as if there was going to be okay.
25:10
Speaker 7: It seemed as if for the first hour or so
25:12
Speaker 7: that the pro Palestinian protesters were going to abide by.
25:16
Speaker 1: What they had said.
25:17
Speaker 7: They said that they had canceled the protests and they.
25:19
Speaker 1: Weren't going to turn up.
25:20
Speaker 7: But that was when we saw a mass running of
25:23
Speaker 7: some of the Jewish community down to around halfway off
25:26
Speaker 7: this street, and that is when we saw around twenty
25:29
Speaker 7: of those pro Palestine protests. The Jewish community was yelling
25:32
Speaker 7: at them, saying go home, go home, And at the
25:35
Speaker 7: moment they have gone home. This is a situation that
25:38
Speaker 7: it looks like at the moment we've gone a large
25:40
Speaker 7: turnout of members of the Jewish community. They have been
25:44
Speaker 7: extremely peaceful. They have been playing songs, they have been dancing. Obviously,
25:49
Speaker 7: some of the Instagram posts that we had seen from
25:51
Speaker 7: some of the pro Palestine groups claimed that the Jewish
25:54
Speaker 7: community was.
25:55
Speaker 1: Going to be violent.
25:56
Speaker 7: They say that was never going to be the case.
25:58
Speaker 7: I spoke to so many people here tonight and they
26:01
Speaker 7: say that they feel like they've already been pushed out
26:04
Speaker 7: of the city. There's pro Palestine protests every single weekend
26:08
Speaker 7: on the steps of Parliament and they say, now these
26:11
Speaker 7: groups are coming into their backyards somewhere where they should
26:15
Speaker 7: feel safe. We've seen vision of one person being arrested.
26:18
Speaker 7: We're I'm sure exactly what reason that was for, but
26:22
Speaker 7: at the moment it's remaining calm here. There is a
26:24
Speaker 7: large police presence here tonight, Shari, to ensure that it
26:27
Speaker 7: did escalate, that they would be on hand to stop
26:30
Speaker 7: that from escalating any further.
26:33
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I just want to pick up
26:35
Speaker 1: in the comment you made there where you've spoken to
26:37
Speaker 1: people who say that they feel that they can't go
26:39
Speaker 1: into the city anymore, especially not on the weekend. And look,
26:43
Speaker 1: that's the same in Sydney as well. When you have
26:45
Speaker 1: thousand strong pro Palestinian protests every weekend in the city,
26:50
Speaker 1: you know that takes out areas that as a Jew
26:53
Speaker 1: you can go. So I hear what the people are
26:55
Speaker 1: telling you. And now that this protest was going to
26:58
Speaker 1: come once again outside synagogue, we know that that already
27:01
Speaker 1: happened in Melbourne. There was also vandalism on a synagogue
27:05
Speaker 1: in Sydney. I mean, it moves to a point where
27:07
Speaker 1: it becomes intimidation when it's outside a place of worship,
27:11
Speaker 1: what do.
27:11
Speaker 7: You think, exactly right, they're shari. Even when we were
27:17
Speaker 7: speaking to some of these people the Melbourne Burke Street
27:21
Speaker 7: Christmas decorations out the front of Maya, they were forced
27:24
Speaker 7: to cancel the opening because pro Palestine groups wanted to
27:28
Speaker 7: protest out there, saying that these people were complicit in genocide.
27:32
Speaker 7: And speaking to some of the people here on the
27:33
Speaker 7: ground today, they say, you know, people should be able
27:36
Speaker 7: to enjoy Christmas, they should be able to enjoy these
27:39
Speaker 7: happy moments, but instead they're being shut down, and they
27:42
Speaker 7: feel it's almost an empty threat. They are claiming that
27:46
Speaker 7: they're going to come here, they are inflicting this fear.
27:48
Speaker 7: But then on the other hand, they turn around and
27:50
Speaker 7: say that they're going to cancel the protest. So it
27:52
Speaker 7: feels like the damage has already been done when they're
27:55
Speaker 7: making these threats time and time again, and you know,
27:58
Speaker 7: people now own backyards.
28:00
Speaker 1: Don't feel safe.
28:01
Speaker 7: But right now it seems like the moon has certainly lifted.
28:05
Speaker 7: There is songs and dancing happening. Everyone that drives past
28:08
Speaker 7: basically beeping their horns in support of the Jewish community
28:12
Speaker 7: that is out here tonight. So for now it looks
28:15
Speaker 7: like it's all bit over. We can't see any signs
28:18
Speaker 7: of those pro Palestine protesters. There was a small scuffle
28:22
Speaker 7: just down there before. It looked like there was another
28:24
Speaker 7: small couple of people from that group coming forward, but
28:28
Speaker 7: they were quickly shooed away by a mass group of
28:30
Speaker 7: Jewish community and a mass group of police that were
28:33
Speaker 7: quickly on the forefront down there.
28:34
Speaker 1: Sharry, Well, Georgie, thank you so much for the news update.
28:37
Speaker 1: You've done a terrific job all night and good to
28:40
Speaker 1: see the joyous spirit their Jews reclaiming their streets outside
28:45
Speaker 1: of synagogue. There should be no protests, Thanks Georgie. Now
28:49
Speaker 1: still to come. SeaBus chairman Wayne Swann snubs the Senate
28:53
Speaker 1: committee that's investigating the Funds customer service scandal. I'm going
28:57
Speaker 1: to discuss that with Ross Greenwood next. Plus, the Deputy
29:01
Speaker 1: Prime Minister faces a potentially down in court battle after
29:04
Speaker 1: his chief of staff launched legal action over bullying claims. Well,
29:09
Speaker 1: will the left media launch an anti women campaign now
29:13
Speaker 1: against Labor? I'll chat about that with my panel a
29:16
Speaker 1: bit later. Welcome back. Well, as we've been speaking about tonight,
29:23
Speaker 1: Australians are experiencing the sharpest decline in cost of living
29:27
Speaker 1: standards since the twenty nineteen and our living standards have
29:31
Speaker 1: fallen by eight point seven percent. It's higher than during
29:35
Speaker 1: the recession in the eighties or the nineties. At the
29:38
Speaker 1: same time, the government is being accused of raiding the
29:40
Speaker 1: Future Fund for its political pet projects, and voters are
29:44
Speaker 1: pretty angry about all this. Will Sky News Business editor
29:47
Speaker 1: Ross Greenwood, I'm thrilled to say, joins me here now. Ross.
29:50
Speaker 1: We'll get to Wayne Swan and the Future Fund in
29:52
Speaker 1: a minute, but I want to start with this report
29:55
Speaker 1: that we've seen on the weekend that our living standards
29:58
Speaker 1: are now worse than in the fifties. Can you talk
30:01
Speaker 1: us about why this is so.
30:03
Speaker 8: What's happened is inflation in Australia has really hurt people.
30:07
Speaker 9: But it's not just that.
30:08
Speaker 8: It's the amount of tax that the government is taking
30:10
Speaker 8: out of people's pockets that has risen. So the government
30:13
Speaker 8: tax take right now is at a record level and
30:16
Speaker 8: he's only going to get higher from here. So while
30:18
Speaker 8: the good news is that people have got jobs in Australia,
30:21
Speaker 8: people need to have jobs because if the unemployment rate
30:24
Speaker 8: were to arise, they say in the Reserve Banks suggests
30:26
Speaker 8: by the end of this year should be four and
30:28
Speaker 8: a half percent. It's four point one percent. Now you've
30:30
Speaker 8: put another one hundred thousand families or without an income.
30:34
Speaker 8: You've got some real economic problems that the Albanezi government
30:37
Speaker 8: would have to face. Now. The fact is that they're
30:40
Speaker 8: taking record amounts of tax out despite the fact that
30:44
Speaker 8: we have got almost near record low unemployment rates, and
30:49
Speaker 8: so the real pressure on families is coming from all
30:51
Speaker 8: of the costs and from interest rates staying too high
30:54
Speaker 8: for too long because inflation hasn't come down quickly. So
30:57
Speaker 8: this is the real problem for Australia families. They need
31:00
Speaker 8: two incomes in capital cities to be able to afford mortgages,
31:03
Speaker 8: to be able to afford the cost of living, and
31:06
Speaker 8: so there is real pressure on families right now. They
31:08
Speaker 8: feel it very much, so, especially if a job is
31:11
Speaker 8: lost or if a marriage busts up. There where the
31:14
Speaker 8: real pain points will come into the future.
31:16
Speaker 1: And then you look at how Australia compares with other
31:19
Speaker 1: OECD nations already now but also the forecasts, and you
31:23
Speaker 1: know we're just worse.
31:24
Speaker 8: So go back pre pandemic disposable incomes in Australia have
31:28
Speaker 8: fallen by two percent. The average of the other OECD
31:31
Speaker 8: countries has them rising by seven point seven percent. So
31:35
Speaker 8: you see the real issue here is that in Australia
31:38
Speaker 8: there is a fundamental problem now though Australia has not
31:41
Speaker 8: slipped into an official recession two consecutive quarters where the
31:44
Speaker 8: economy goes backwards, which other nations did, because they pushed
31:48
Speaker 8: interstrates up faster and as a result now taking pressure
31:51
Speaker 8: off by cutting interstrates for how long we'll find out
31:55
Speaker 8: here in Australia they took a different course. They really
31:58
Speaker 8: the government and the Reserve Bank then trying to keep
32:00
Speaker 8: as many people in jobs as possible by basically keeping
32:04
Speaker 8: interest rates not as high as others. Didn't plunge the
32:07
Speaker 8: economy in recession, but guess what happened the individual the
32:11
Speaker 8: household has been in recession for months and months and
32:15
Speaker 8: months now, and that's what consumers are feeling. That's what
32:19
Speaker 8: people are feeling. That's the reason why you've got restaurants
32:22
Speaker 8: going out of business around Australia right now, because people
32:25
Speaker 8: do not have the disposable income to be able to
32:27
Speaker 8: go out and spend on those types of luxuries.
32:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, the per capita recession and it's just immigration really
32:32
Speaker 1: that's helped batch up the overall figures. Now I want
32:35
Speaker 1: to ask you about CBS Chairman Wayne Swan. Now, this
32:38
Speaker 1: is a big scandal.
32:39
Speaker 8: The former federal treasurer, the euro money Treasurer of the
32:42
Speaker 8: year or Finance Minister of the year at one stage.
32:44
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, indeed, as he liked to tell everyone, the
32:46
Speaker 1: best treasurer in the world. Now he has been called
32:50
Speaker 1: to appear in front of a Senate committee that's investigating
32:53
Speaker 1: the allegations that sibus mishandled the death and disability payouts.
32:58
Speaker 1: Now we're told that he wrote, and I'm quoting here,
33:01
Speaker 1: that it would not be in a position to add
33:03
Speaker 1: anything further to the areas of particular interest to the
33:05
Speaker 1: committee at this time. Surely he should appear us given
33:09
Speaker 1: he's the chairman.
33:10
Speaker 4: Yeah.
33:10
Speaker 1: Well.
33:10
Speaker 8: SeaBus is one of Australia's biggest superannuation funds. It has
33:14
Speaker 8: ninety four billion dollars that it manages and it has
33:17
Speaker 8: nine hundred and twenty thousand members, so it represents a
33:20
Speaker 8: lot of Australia. Now, just one little side to this
33:23
Speaker 8: is that SeaBus actually also runs the Media Super the
33:28
Speaker 8: Superannuation Fund, so Media Super, which I used to be
33:31
Speaker 8: the chairman of the Investment Committee and I was the
33:33
Speaker 8: director of for years, so I know a little bit
33:35
Speaker 8: about this. But what's happened is there's two things that
33:38
Speaker 8: are going Number one is, and this is the issue
33:41
Speaker 8: that you're pointing out, is that Sea Bus basically is
33:44
Speaker 8: said by ASSEK, the Australian corporate regulator, that they mishandled
33:49
Speaker 8: almost one hundred thousand people who came forward with claims
33:52
Speaker 8: for either insurance, life insurance or disability insurance. In actual fact,
33:58
Speaker 8: what happened was that SeaBus not get back to them
34:01
Speaker 8: in a prompt and timely manner as they're supposed to
34:03
Speaker 8: do within ninety days. So as a result there's something
34:07
Speaker 8: in the administration of that fund that has not gone well.
34:10
Speaker 8: But then secondarly, this is another issue, a separate issue
34:13
Speaker 8: which has come up, and this is as a result
34:15
Speaker 8: of its close alliance with the CFMU, clearly one of
34:18
Speaker 8: the most millittant unions. Now the Victorian branch of the
34:21
Speaker 8: CFMEU has been sent into administration and as a result,
34:25
Speaker 8: three members of SIVAS who are appointed by the union
34:30
Speaker 8: have had to quit. One of whom is Dave Noonan,
34:32
Speaker 8: very well known unions. He did not go willingly. But
34:35
Speaker 8: what they've done is they put other members into place,
34:38
Speaker 8: as they're entitled to do. One of those is Paddy Crumlin,
34:41
Speaker 8: who is the former head of the Maritime Union right
34:45
Speaker 8: one of the most milliant unions in Australia. And there
34:47
Speaker 8: are question marks about the appropriousness of the directors that
34:50
Speaker 8: have been appointed to this board. So Wayne Swan right
34:53
Speaker 8: now is grappling with one issue on administration that they
34:56
Speaker 8: did not pay out.
34:57
Speaker 1: The life actual crisis as well.
34:59
Speaker 8: And then they've got the other crisis that comes from
35:01
Speaker 8: the collapse of the CFMU see ciebus. Being one of
35:04
Speaker 8: our most powerful unions tells businesses how they should behave
35:08
Speaker 8: and how they should react. And right now inside that
35:12
Speaker 8: superannuation fund they have their own crisis in terms of
35:15
Speaker 8: governance and culture and the way in which they should
35:18
Speaker 8: behave and whether they have behaved appropriately, which is now
35:21
Speaker 8: being investigated not only by the Superannuation Regulator OPRA, but
35:25
Speaker 8: also by the corporate Regulator ASSEX. So this is pretty serious.
35:29
Speaker 1: I set an inquiry to top it off.
35:30
Speaker 4: That's right in.
35:31
Speaker 8: Cops, I should tell you about a quarter of a
35:33
Speaker 8: million bucks a year for being the chair of that
35:36
Speaker 8: super fun.
35:37
Speaker 1: He definitely needs to front up if he's getting paid
35:39
Speaker 1: that sort of money. All right, Russ Greenwood, We'll talk
35:41
Speaker 1: about future fund next time, because I know you're an
35:43
Speaker 1: expert on that as well. Thanks here, Okay, Now still
35:46
Speaker 1: to come. The ICC's deeply disturbing decision to issue arrest
35:50
Speaker 1: warrants Fanada Yahu has shocked well everyone except for Penny one.
35:55
Speaker 1: I'm going to speak about her pathetic response with international
35:58
Speaker 1: human rights lawyer Killel Noyer next, plus the claims of
36:03
Speaker 1: bullying by Richard Miles, chief of staff. I talk about
36:06
Speaker 1: that with my panel a bit later. Well, Pennywog has
36:12
Speaker 1: been grilled over the Albanese government's response to the International
36:16
Speaker 1: Criminal Court's decision to issue a rest warrants for Neda Yahoo.
36:20
Speaker 1: She was asked why Australia is out of step with
36:23
Speaker 1: our biggest ally, the US.
36:25
Speaker 10: Here she was I have made clear many times in
36:28
Speaker 10: this place that all parties to the conflict must comply
36:31
Speaker 10: with international law, and I again say we respect the
36:34
Speaker 10: independence of the International Criminal Court and its important role
36:38
Speaker 10: in upholding international law.
36:42
Speaker 1: It's now clear Australia should leave the ICC immediately and
36:47
Speaker 1: we should leave Pennywong behind US Foreign Minister too. The
36:51
Speaker 1: ICC and Pennywog are both utterly discredited on this issue.
36:56
Speaker 1: The ICC issued a warrant for Hermas leader Muhammed Dave.
37:01
Speaker 1: He's presumed dead. And also that move puts Israel on
37:05
Speaker 1: power with a terror group, lumping Israel's right to defend
37:08
Speaker 1: itself from Hamas on power with the October seven massacre itself.
37:14
Speaker 1: Now Israeli Prime Minister Etta Yahoo has responded to all
37:18
Speaker 1: of this. He said he's deeply concerned at the anti
37:21
Speaker 1: semitism of the ICC.
37:24
Speaker 9: The anti Semitic decision of the International Court in the
37:27
Speaker 9: Heague is a modern Dreyfous style and it will end
37:31
Speaker 9: the same way. One hundred and thirty years ago, the
37:35
Speaker 9: French Jewish officer Alfred Dreyfus was falsely accused of treason
37:40
Speaker 9: by a biased French court.
37:42
Speaker 1: As I've outlined before, Israel has not committed war crimes.
37:48
Speaker 1: It has not starved children. Israel has gone above and
37:52
Speaker 1: beyond to make sure civilians are protected. It's Hamas and
37:57
Speaker 1: Hamas alone that continues to put innocent Palestinians in Harm's way,
38:03
Speaker 1: but again showing how warped the Albanezi government is. It
38:07
Speaker 1: also refused just on Thursday night, a visa to former
38:13
Speaker 1: Israeli Minister Aolette Shaket, an upstanding advocate of Israel who
38:18
Speaker 1: has family here in Australia. Well, Pennywong had no problems
38:22
Speaker 1: fast tracking literally thousands of visas to Gazans from a
38:26
Speaker 1: war zone controlled by terrorists. This government couldn't get any worse.
38:33
Speaker 1: I'm joined now by un Watch Executive director and international
38:37
Speaker 1: human rights lawyer Hillel Noya. Hillel, thank you very much.
38:41
Speaker 1: Once again. Look, I want to start with the ICC decision.
38:44
Speaker 1: Can you explain to my audience why its accusations against
38:49
Speaker 1: Israel are horrifically wrong.
38:53
Speaker 11: Look, the International Criminal Court in the Hague has issued
38:58
Speaker 11: arrest warrance for Israel's Prime minister its former defense minister
39:03
Speaker 11: on the accusation that they committed war crimes by depriving
39:08
Speaker 11: Palestinians of humanitarian aid. But the facts show the very opposite.
39:13
Speaker 11: The facts are that since the war, Israel has facilitated
39:17
Speaker 11: into Gaza again. This is a territory from which Hamas
39:23
Speaker 11: waged war, launched an invasion on October seventh, there was
39:27
Speaker 11: a ceasefire in place for a couple of years, Hamas
39:30
Speaker 11: launched an invasion, massacred twelve hundred Israelis in front of
39:35
Speaker 11: their family members, dragged in some two hundred and fifty
39:38
Speaker 11: Israelis and many of whom are still being held as hostages.
39:43
Speaker 11: Despite that Israel has facilitated into Gaza in the past
39:46
Speaker 11: year twenty seven thousand tons of medical aid, fifty one
39:50
Speaker 11: thousand tons of water, eighty five thousand tons of shelter equipment,
39:56
Speaker 11: and eight hundred and seventy thousand tons of food. So
40:00
Speaker 11: the notion that Israel's leaders are depriving gasms of humanitarian
40:04
Speaker 11: aid is manifestly false and frankly shows the depth to
40:10
Speaker 11: which this once respected court has now descended, and it
40:16
Speaker 11: joins the club of other international entities such as the
40:20
Speaker 11: Human Rights Council, where I'm based in Geneva, which was
40:23
Speaker 11: founded by Eleanor Roosevelt and Renie Caussin eminent figures of
40:27
Speaker 11: human rights, and today includes the Chinese communist regime, the
40:30
Speaker 11: qatar whose Katari regime that sponsors terrorists, the Cuban police
40:35
Speaker 11: state and other dictators. So sadly an institution meant to
40:38
Speaker 11: protect international justice, has joined a very nefarious club.
40:43
Speaker 1: Heillo, can you tell us about your revelation that a
40:46
Speaker 1: secret Lebanon meeting has occurred between a former UNRAK Commissioner
40:51
Speaker 1: general and also some terrorist organizations. What can you tell us?
40:56
Speaker 11: Look Sherry, You and Watch as a massed a Dosia
41:02
Speaker 11: a massive trove of evidence documenting how ANRA leaders, including
41:08
Speaker 11: the former leader Pierre Crahenbul and the current leader Felipe Lazarini,
41:13
Speaker 11: how they routinely meet with terrorist leaders from Hamas, from
41:17
Speaker 11: the Islamic Ghad and other terrorist groups including Asbat al Ansar,
41:22
Speaker 11: which is an al Qaeda affiliate. They routinely meet with them,
41:25
Speaker 11: whether in Lebanon or Gaza, and we obtained one transcript
41:29
Speaker 11: of the meeting where the former Commissioner of NRA said
41:33
Speaker 11: to Hamas and the jihad we are united. Nothing can
41:37
Speaker 11: separate us.
41:38
Speaker 1: Unbelievable, and yet, Hillel, the Australian government still continues to
41:43
Speaker 1: fund ANRA to the tunes are millions of dollars, despite
41:46
Speaker 1: the fact that there's mounting and long standing evidence of
41:50
Speaker 1: its links to terrorism. It's absolutely shocking. Hillel Noya, your
41:55
Speaker 1: reports from un Watch, your exposes are always brilliant and
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Speaker 1: I thank you so much for your courageous work. Now,
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Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. Richard Miles's chief of staff takes him
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Speaker 1: to court. Well, will Labor finally deal with his allegations
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Speaker 1: of bullying. I'll discuss that after this break with my panel.
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Speaker 1: All Right, lots more to cover. Let's bring in former
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Speaker 1: Labor minister Graham Richardson and former John Howard advisor David Gazard.
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Speaker 1: Great to see you both. Look, let's start with Richard Miles,
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Speaker 1: the Deputy Prime minister. He's now staring down the barrel
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Speaker 1: of a court battle, his former chief of staff launching
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Speaker 1: legal action against him and the Commonwealth and even Albanize's
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Speaker 1: own chief of staff Graham Richardson. How damaging is this
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Speaker 1: going to be?
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Speaker 12: Well, it's not going to help, that's for sure. And
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Speaker 12: the problem also is one of those things that will
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Speaker 12: tend to go on and on and on. Whenever you
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Speaker 12: start to get near a court, you know you'll get delays,
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Speaker 12: and so I do worry about this. I think this
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Speaker 12: is unfortunate and I think that the government should be
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Speaker 12: making some extra steps to try and stop it going
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Speaker 12: down that path in a court and sorting it out.
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Speaker 1: David Gazzard, we saw the campaign against Scott Morrison. Are
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Speaker 1: you expecting this to be as lethal against Albin Ezy
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Speaker 1: and his government?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 13: I mean I agree with Graham here. I mean I
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Speaker 13: think journalists have been very, very incurious when it comes
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Speaker 13: to this case after sort of taking up the cudgels
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Speaker 13: against the previous government over its perceived women's problem. But
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Speaker 13: that's come back to bite them, and Graham is absolutely right.
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Speaker 13: This will now drag on in the courts because this
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Speaker 13: chief of staff has felt she hasn't got the proper hearing,
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Speaker 13: no one has believed her, no one has come to
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Speaker 13: her and asked her her view. She's indeed been treated
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Speaker 13: like a lapper by the Labor Party, and so she's
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Speaker 13: launched legal action which will now deflect from the government's
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Speaker 13: message for the coming weeks and maybe months in front
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Speaker 13: of us all the way possibly to the next election.
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Speaker 13: So the incuriousness of the Gallery has just pushed this underground,
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Speaker 13: and so this chief of Stuff has now gone to
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Speaker 13: the courts for action.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you think a labor woman would get more support
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Speaker 1: from the press gallery and the Labor Party itself. Now,
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Speaker 1: let's have a look at this decision by the Arab
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Speaker 1: and Easy government not to take part in the COP
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Speaker 1: twenty nine agreement on nuclear well, Dennis Shanahan has ridden
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Speaker 1: a great piece in The OHS where he says that
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Speaker 1: there's now a danger and growing evidence that the government
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Speaker 1: is turning the issues of renewable energy and nuclear power
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Speaker 1: from believing what it believed, sorry from being what it
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Speaker 1: believed would be negatives for Dutton, actually into positives for
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Speaker 1: the coalition. Graham, what do you think about this? Do
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Speaker 1: you think nuclear could actually be something like Dennis says
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Speaker 1: that works in Dutton's favor.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, Look, I think that there's been a massive change
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Speaker 12: of thinking on this. I think if you've went back
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Speaker 12: a decade or two, obviously, women in Australia practically to
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Speaker 12: a woman, we're against it. And you know that once
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Speaker 12: you get that in that means your poles are pretty
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Speaker 12: well slanted all the way. But I think that you
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Speaker 12: know that attitude has changed. I think there's been plenty
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Speaker 12: of demonstrations now that you can have a modular, small,
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Speaker 12: modular nuclear power plants that can just look after a
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Speaker 12: city or a village whatever. You don't need to have
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Speaker 12: the massive power plants to which we've become accustomed. So
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Speaker 12: I'd say that this is an issue not to go away,
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Speaker 12: and I'd say that Dutton has been ahead on this.
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Speaker 12: You know, he's leading on this issue and he's doing well.
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Speaker 1: It looked risky, I think risky when Dutton first came
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Speaker 1: out with this policy. But David now it's alb and
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Speaker 1: easy that's looking out of step with international community, and
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Speaker 1: voters will be thinking, well, why does he think he's
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Speaker 1: smarter than all the other world leaders.
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Speaker 13: That's right, there's many other countries that are going down
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Speaker 13: this path. As Graham correctly says that, I think the
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Speaker 13: real structural problem for the Albaneze Labor Party and the
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Speaker 13: Labor Government is that they were fine to sign up
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Speaker 13: our navy with submarines and sub mariners in nuclear submarines,
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Speaker 13: and so you've got a bunch of sailors that are
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Speaker 13: going to be sitting sitting on top of a reactor
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Speaker 13: literally while while it proves a long underwater. Those same
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Speaker 13: submarines are going to be serviced in Australian ports. But
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Speaker 13: yet they're saying it's a danger to the health of
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Speaker 13: Australians to have other reactors on shore that will deliver
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Speaker 13: cleaner power, and we've of course, we've got tons and
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Speaker 13: tons of uranium. So if you're going to crack the
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Speaker 13: seal on soubmarines and sign up to the Orchest agenda
47:02
Speaker 13: with nuclear submarines, you can hardly turn around and say
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Speaker 13: well it's unsafe if we use the same reactors on land.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And then there's the cost argument. But it
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Speaker 1: seems like, well we've heard that the renewable energy transition
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Speaker 1: will be just as or if not even more costly.
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Speaker 1: And now just before we go, we've seen Graham Richardson
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Speaker 1: this warning from business leaders. And remember the business community
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Speaker 1: was on board with the Albanesi government. Now they're warning
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Speaker 1: that Australians are going to face worse living standards and
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Speaker 1: job opportunities. Graham, Well, I think.
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Speaker 12: I was waiting for them to turn. It's not as
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Speaker 12: if the business community is a natural ally for the
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Speaker 12: Labor Party, and so anytime you get them supporting labor,
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Speaker 12: it's always temporary, it never lasts, and this one was
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Speaker 12: never going to last either.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's lasted a while so far. David Gazard, what
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Speaker 1: do you think of what the CEOs actually had to
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Speaker 1: say today?
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Speaker 13: Well, it's interesting because I think big business particularly find
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Speaker 13: themselves almost friendless across the spectrum. They campaigned in part
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Speaker 13: at least for a change of government, and the Coalition
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Speaker 13: now are saying, well, we don't owe big business anything.
48:15
Speaker 13: If you've got problems with productivity and ir why don't
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Speaker 13: you go to the party that you support her to
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Speaker 13: get into government now? So I think the Coalition will
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Speaker 13: try to paint itself as the Party of workers, but
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Speaker 13: not the party of big business. But Graham is right,
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Speaker 13: that's definitely right, and I think.
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Speaker 1: Seen out of time, David Gazard, Graham Richardson, thank you
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Speaker 1: for your time. And just quickly before I go tune
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Speaker 1: in tomorrow night, I've got one of Donald Trump's key
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