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Mac & Bone Hour 1: Dave Canales Addresses Bears Loss · Mac & Bone Podcast

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Speaker 1: What's up, party people? Bueno, como estas?
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Speaker 2: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mike and Bo. This is my friend, Matt.
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Speaker 1: I love my Panthers, and I'll boo if I want to.
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Speaker 2: Boo if I want to.
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Speaker 1: Boo if I want to.
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Speaker 3: This is my friend, T-Bone.
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Speaker 1: On this Tuesday, I'm a swinger. You guys are the best. Pony, pony, pony, pony.
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Speaker 1: You're the best. I love those guys. All right, one
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Speaker 1: time for the one time.
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Speaker 4: You're listening to the Mack and Bo Show on Mack
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Speaker 4: and Bo Radio.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Charlotte. Welcome aboard. Happy Tuesday.
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Speaker 5: It is Mack and Bo Radio Show time as we try,
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Speaker 5: if I can pronounce show, as we try one more time.
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Speaker 5: One more time for the one time. One more time
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Speaker 5: to try to come to terms with what happened on
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Speaker 5: Sunday and move on with our football lives. Drew Brees
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Speaker 5: still says we're the favorites to win the division. Do
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Speaker 5: we just go with that? Do we say Drew Brees
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Speaker 5: is right? We will talk about that on the show today.
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Speaker 5: Dave Canales yesterday at his presser giving his review of
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Speaker 5: the defensive film. This film is not winning any awards.
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Speaker 5: This film is getting... This film is rated R. I
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Speaker 5: think it got two thumbs down from Dave Canales, but
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Speaker 5: we'll let you hear what he had to say about that.
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Speaker 5: Prince Lee talked about his performance, the defense's performance, and
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Speaker 5: Lane Kiffin Week is underway. We got that happening with
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Speaker 5: Ole Miss hosting LSU this week. And Arch Manning with
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Speaker 5: just a.
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Speaker 5: A very interesting press conference moment. These young bucks. These
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Speaker 5: young bucks got to learn some lessons on the fly,
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Speaker 5: don't they? So anyway, we got that coming up, too,
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Speaker 5: in this first hour here on the Mac and Bone Show.
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Speaker 5: We got what the bleep stories. We can laugh at that.
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Speaker 5: Maybe try to make ourselves feel better. And we got
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Speaker 5: Monday Night Football to talk about here in just mere
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Speaker 5: seconds on the Mac and Bone Show.
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Speaker 1: Fitty in the house. The Bone Man in the house
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Speaker 1: as well. What's up, Bone? What's up with you, Seth Brogan? Oh,
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Speaker 1: we're back, baby. How are things going today? Everything all right?
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Speaker 5: We're back to the Bro Names today.
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Speaker 1: We are so back. We are burying the pain, the
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Speaker 1: violence that we witnessed a couple days ago. We are
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Speaker 1: now back into what this show should be, fun yet
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Speaker 1: professional radio. That's what we do here on the Mac
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Speaker 1: and Bone Show. I like it.
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Speaker 5: Or we do fun radio. I threw some extra words
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Speaker 5: in there. Fitty's not going to be happy with you.
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Speaker 5: Fitty says football guys at 0-1 don't smile. He was
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Speaker 5: very unhappy that I was smiling while walking into the
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Speaker 5: studio today.
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Speaker 1: Fitty, Fit Daddy, or as they now call you, Love Daddy,
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Speaker 1: do football guys go and play putt-putt during the Sunday windows?
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Speaker 1: You know what, Bone? You bring up a salient point.
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Speaker 3: But I'll loan being a football fraud to being in
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Speaker 3: a relationship, so I'm a football fraud, Dan.
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Speaker 1: I'm still laughing yesterday at Finney talking about his day. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we were not there. We played 18 holes of putt-putt. Like,
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Speaker 1: they really sacrificed the whole afternoon. Like, a lot of
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Speaker 1: people just say, I'll take nine. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 5: I don't think I can— I don't think my body will
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Speaker 5: hold up for 18.
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Speaker 1: Did you use a cart? Did you use a cart?
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Speaker 3: Did not use a cart, but I also— I got it.
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Speaker 3: I got a free ticket back. I got free 18
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Speaker 3: to go play on, on the course.
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Speaker 1: Oh, there you go. There you go.
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Speaker 5: I'm going to run it back. Did you win Finney?
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Speaker 5: Did you win on the putt putt date?
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Speaker 1: We didn't keep score. Oh, look at Finney, Finney, Mr. Competitive.
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Speaker 5: Is able, Bone, to just do a leisurely sports activity.
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Speaker 5: I'm telling you, this dude's growing up in front of
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Speaker 5: our very eyes.
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Speaker 1: It's great to see. I had a relationship start to
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Speaker 1: kind of end because of Putt-Putt way back in the day,
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Speaker 1: back in my early 20s. My longtime girlfriend, we played Putt-Putt.
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Speaker 1: And keep in mind, I was only 21, and maybe
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Speaker 1: my maturity level is not what it is now. She
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Speaker 1: destroyed me on the course. I just got completely housed
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Speaker 1: playing putt-putt. And then it was the middle of summer.
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Speaker 1: The next afternoon, I dragged her back out there, not physically,
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Speaker 1: but we went out there to the same course, and
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Speaker 1: I just had to get my wind back. And I
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Speaker 1: just had to get my wind back. I made her
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Speaker 1: stand out there in 95-degree weather. middle of July, so
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Speaker 1: I could get my Pawpaw win back. And then the
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Speaker 1: relationship kind of ended like two weeks later. You don't say.
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Speaker 1: You don't say.
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Speaker 5: But I got my win back. Well, that's the way
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Speaker 5: I would think. I feared Finney would act in an
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Speaker 5: environment like that. So that's good that he did not.
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Speaker 5: All right, let's talk about the Monday night game from
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Speaker 5: last night. The Chiefs put a beatdown on Sean Payton.
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Speaker 5: You love to see it. Last night, 31-10 in Arrowhead.
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Speaker 1: It was a return. of Pat Mahomes from the knee injury.
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Speaker 5: And he really was down a bit on the list
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Speaker 5: of reasons why the Chiefs won this football game. He
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Speaker 5: had a all right game, 184 yards passing, two touchdowns,
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Speaker 5: a pick on a miscommunication with him and Xavier Worthy.
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Speaker 5: But the story's bone were the running game with new
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Speaker 5: addition Kenneth Walker. He runs for 73 yards yesterday, catches
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Speaker 5: three balls for 18 yards yesterday. And then the defense
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Speaker 5: of the Chiefs was absolutely amazing. That Sean Payton offense,
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Speaker 5: 115 total yards passing, 61 total yards rushing. Kenneth Walker
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Speaker 5: had more total yards, Bo, than the whole Broncos team had.
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Speaker 1: What a fit Kenneth Walker is to that offense. When
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Speaker 1: it happened in the springtime, we said, wow, that's amazing.
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Speaker 1: That's going to be huge, especially as Mahomes comes off
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Speaker 1: the injury, Kelsey gets older, and you saw Mac, the
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Speaker 1: plan right away. They are not going to ease Kenneth Walker, Mac,
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Speaker 1: into this offense. He had six of the first seven
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Speaker 1: plays all involved Kenneth Walker yesterday, and every time he's
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Speaker 1: in there... Whether it was passing or the run in
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Speaker 1: the ball, he was involved in about everything in that
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Speaker 1: football game. My takeaway, though, was on the other side,
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Speaker 1: smugly do right. Yeah, that's what we call Sean Payton
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Speaker 1: around here. A big deal is made, and rightfully so,
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Speaker 1: that he is no longer calling plays for Denver. He's
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Speaker 1: handed that over to Davis Webb, who's an up-and-coming potential
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Speaker 1: head coach. But, Mac, the more you think about it
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Speaker 1: and the more we think of who Smugly is, a
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Speaker 1: guy that might love play calling in that sheet more
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Speaker 1: than his own family. So Sean Payton just willingly gives
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Speaker 1: up the play calling. They get one catch for two
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Speaker 1: yards last night out of prized offseason pickup Jalen Waddell.
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Speaker 1: How long, Mac, until Smugly takes back the play calling?
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Speaker 1: About three seconds. And was this part of his plan
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Speaker 1: that he knew it wasn't good? This is what Sean
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Speaker 1: Payton does. Did he know that it was going to
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Speaker 1: go bad? And then he comes back as the conquering
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Speaker 1: play calling hero. That's the kind of stuff that smugly
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Speaker 1: do right does. That is some real Sean Payton cynicism.
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Speaker 1: Even I, with all my vitriol towards that arrogant bum,
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Speaker 1: even I don't have that level of Sean Payton cynicism.
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Speaker 1: They have a ton of talent.
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Speaker 5: And after the year they had last year, the expectation
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Speaker 5: should be extremely high. Your first point is the one
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Speaker 5: I agree with. I would not be shocked if he
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Speaker 5: told Davis Webb after the game last night, bro, it's
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Speaker 5: been real.
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Speaker 1: It's been real. I'm calling the damn plays.
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Speaker 5: My biggest issue from a play-calling standpoint for them would
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Speaker 5: be the lack of commitment to the run.
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Speaker 1: Only 15 carries, 28 passes. Against a defense that... From
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Speaker 1: a year ago, last night, three are gone completely. One
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Speaker 1: is injured. The Chiefs had an entirely new secondary last night,
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Speaker 1: and they could not take advantage of that in the slightest.
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Speaker 5: Maybe that's why they were so pass-heavy, but to me,
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Speaker 5: they ran the ball for over four yards a carry.
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Speaker 5: I probably would have ran the ball more, but Sean
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Speaker 5: Payton slightly... A slightly better offensive mind than I am,
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Speaker 5: but my God, I love seeing that dude take his
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Speaker 5: whooping man. I love seeing it happen. I also like
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Speaker 5: Andy Reid, Pat Mahomes, Travis Kelsey. I realize many of
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Speaker 5: you hate them, so I was kind of happy to
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Speaker 5: see them bounce back after last season, at least for
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Speaker 5: one night last night. I also was very joyful bone
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Speaker 5: to see Taylor and Tommy Cruz hanging out in the box.
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Speaker 5: That's two of the most famous people in the damn
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Speaker 5: world hanging out together. And Taylor lost her mind when
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Speaker 5: Travis Kelsey had a 59 yard catch and run.
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Speaker 1: I'm not even sure bone.
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Speaker 5: The Panther defense would let that old geezer run for 59.
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Speaker 5: That was unbelievable, bro. Like where the Denver guys at
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Speaker 5: water break, how the hell does that old slow dude now?
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Speaker 1: All right. How does he have that much room to run?
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Speaker 1: It was crazy.
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Speaker 5: And on that play, he moved up to second all
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Speaker 5: time behind Tony Gonzalez. He passed Jason Witten, who caught
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Speaker 5: four million six yard hooks in his career. But he
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Speaker 5: passed Jason Witten for the second spot all time in
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Speaker 5: tight end receiving yards.
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Speaker 1: That was the definition of rumble and stumbling, wasn't it?
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Speaker 1: You could get prime Chris Berman on, whoop, whoop, rumble
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Speaker 1: and stumbling. Oh, yeah. How do you let an old
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Speaker 1: man named Travis do you like that? I mean, do
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Speaker 1: you think they'd let you rumble? Probably. You probably could
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Speaker 1: have ran through that big gap. Oh, me in my prime,
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Speaker 1: I was like a galloping deer. Oh, man.
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Speaker 5: So anyway, 31-10, Chiefs beat up on Denver last night.
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Speaker 5: Week one is complete. It's the highest scoring week one
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Speaker 5: in NFL history. And you know who your MVPs are, y'all.
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Speaker 5: All right, Roger Goodell, when you start having everybody send
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Speaker 5: out press releases, bragging about all the points, because you
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Speaker 5: know the fans dig points. So you know the NFL's
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Speaker 5: going to push this bone knowing that we've never had
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Speaker 5: a week with this many points in week one. I'd
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Speaker 5: like Roger Goodell to personally thank your MVPs in Carolina.
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Speaker 5: an offense good enough to put up 37, and a
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Speaker 5: defense crappy enough to give up 59.
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Speaker 1: We carried this bone.
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Speaker 5: We carried the NFL to this record.
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Speaker 1: Do you think back yesterday that there were coaches that
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Speaker 1: were checking the film? The rare time they were trying to,
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Speaker 1: not the defense, but were coaches, Matt, trying to figure
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Speaker 1: out what is this Panthers offense they're running right now?
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Speaker 1: Coaches were going to their film room saying, I need
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Speaker 1: to see what this high-powered, high-octane Panthers offense is all about.
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Speaker 5: They might have, but they might have just put on
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Speaker 5: the Bears offense and said, let me see what this
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Speaker 5: is all about. Anyway, let's... But the Panther offense, would
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Speaker 5: you say, Bone, was sixth, fifth or sixth in yards?
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Speaker 1: They were the fourth highest scoring team, right? I think
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Speaker 1: they were fourth, and I don't know what they were
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Speaker 1: for yards. Fourth in points. Yeah, I'll check it out. Which, normally,
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Speaker 1: you score... That many points in week one, and you're probably–
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Speaker 1: it was a very high-scoring week one. The highest scoring ever,
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Speaker 1: someone has said.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Someone has once said. But I know. What I'm saying
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Speaker 1: is normally you score that many, you're probably higher than four,
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Speaker 1: but not this week. Third in yards, fourth in points. Okay,
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Speaker 1: there you go. So there you have it.
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Speaker 5: I've figured out my own question, Boney. I do want
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Speaker 5: to shout out Bobby Brown for something here on this
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Speaker 5: show because he kept coming on and off the field
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Speaker 5: so many times, but as he did it, He was
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Speaker 5: still making plays, including an interception that, of course, was
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Speaker 5: in the end zone. It, of course, was taken away
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Speaker 5: because of the Derrick Brown offside penalty. Turns out, Bone,
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Speaker 5: the injury is— and let me creep up on this one
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Speaker 5: here so I don't have a Steve Levy moment. It
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Speaker 5: is a bulging disc in his back. And he was
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Speaker 5: playing through that the other day. fighting valiantly. That man
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Speaker 5: is a warrior. That's the good news, is the man
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Speaker 5: fought his ass off bone to be out there, and
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Speaker 5: I thought played pretty well. The bad news is, how
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Speaker 5: long can you play through that? I know we got
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Speaker 5: a bye week after four weeks. I mean, that does
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Speaker 5: not seem ideal, man, for a big man like that
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Speaker 5: in the trenches.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, backs are weird. I guess it's just
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Speaker 1: going to be maybe touch and go. I guess some...
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Speaker 1: Some weeks, maybe he's all right, and then other weeks,
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Speaker 1: he's got to nurse through it. I don't know. Backs
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Speaker 1: are very sensitive, and they're also very unpredictable. So, you know, Mac,
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Speaker 1: he could get back spasms in pregame warm-ups, and that
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Speaker 1: could cause a problem, or he could be all right.
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Speaker 1: My mom had three back surgeries when I was younger,
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Speaker 1: so I always saw... Some days, not that my mom
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Speaker 1: is an athlete like Bobby Brown, but just the point
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Speaker 1: is those backs are very touch and go. There are
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Speaker 1: some days she's fine, some days it was awful. I
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Speaker 1: couldn't imagine being an athlete with a back like that.
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Speaker 1: kind of the unknown of what you may have that
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Speaker 1: given day. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I don't know if he's going to be able to
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Speaker 5: play through this or if he's, I mean, they didn't
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Speaker 5: say nothing was said to the effect of, Hey, he's got,
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Speaker 5: we got to sit him down for a while, but
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Speaker 5: it's already a position bone where it's Derek Brown. I
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Speaker 5: know he didn't have his finest day, but he did
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Speaker 5: make a couple of plays at the line of scrimmage,
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Speaker 5: have four pressures. It wasn't like he was chopped liver
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Speaker 5: out there, but he had a couple of mental errors.
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Speaker 5: But it's Derrick Brown and a bunch of young bucks
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Speaker 5: until Turk Wharton gets back. So that's not ideal, man,
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Speaker 5: if he can't play football. But I did want to
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Speaker 5: give him an attaboy because that's a true battler, and
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Speaker 5: that's a true warrior, the way he kept coming back
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Speaker 5: in that game and acquitting himself pretty damn well when
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Speaker 5: many around him did not do that. Glad you gave
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Speaker 5: him the— Not a lot of defensive guys are getting shout-outs,
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Speaker 5: so I'm happy you could at least single him out
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Speaker 5: a little bit. There you go.
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Speaker 1: There you go. One guy. You can't say I didn't
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Speaker 1: praise any of y'all. How long until– I don't have
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Speaker 1: the text line put up right now, Mac, for– for
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Speaker 1: just mental health and safety right now. But I can't imagine.
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Speaker 1: Someone's probably saying, how dare you praise someone on that defense?
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Speaker 5: I would hope not. The man played through a bulging disc, man.
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Speaker 5: Kept having to come off the field and going back in.
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Speaker 5: You don't put it past these folks. You think the
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Speaker 5: text line is that heartless? Here's my prediction. Someone right
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Speaker 5: now is saying, why are we praising a guy? For
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Speaker 5: being heard out there, he only hurt the football team.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 5: All right. I don't think he did. I think he
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Speaker 5: was better than the other guys, unfortunately. I will praise
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Speaker 5: this man. We're getting ready to talk about Rod Boone.
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Speaker 5: Now I have to say formally of the Charlotte Observer, unfortunately. McClatchy,
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Speaker 5: the company that owns the Charlotte Observer, has done a
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Speaker 5: ton of layoffs around the country, including, I think, like
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Speaker 5: seven or eight with the Charlotte Observer. And unfortunately, Rod
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Speaker 5: has been so nice to us over the years, such
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Speaker 5: a class dude. He is one of the guys that
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Speaker 5: has been laid off. So I hate it from just
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Speaker 5: a human standpoint, him being a really good dude, Boney.
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Speaker 5: But also, this is not good for Hornets fans at all.
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Speaker 5: They are removing that position. They are an NBA city
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Speaker 5: that will not have a designated beat writer in the
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Speaker 5: paper of record in the NBA city to cover the
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Speaker 5: NBA team. It is very sad what's happening in newspaper business.
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Speaker 5: And you see stuff like this sadly happen all the time, Bone.
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Speaker 5: But that is not good for Hornets fans whatsoever. Wanting coverage.
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Speaker 5: Can't even get a designated writer for your NBA team.
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Speaker 1: No, it's pathetic. And McClatchy, the main owners of the Observer,
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Speaker 1: I believe the number is, awful announcing, had it up yesterday.
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Speaker 1: I think that of the 28 newspapers that they own
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Speaker 1: in some form or fashion, I think there's only one
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Speaker 1: NBA writer left. He's in Miami. Oh, jeez. So, like,
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Speaker 1: all these different cities with NBA teams are going through this.
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Speaker 1: I hate this no matter who it involves, but especially
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Speaker 1: our own city. A guy as classy as Rod. Mac,
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Speaker 1: I've said it numerous times. I grew up reading. I
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Speaker 1: learned how to read by reading the sports section. Before
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Speaker 1: I was... Listening to sports talk radio when I was
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Speaker 1: young and really wanted to do this from a very
16:16
Speaker 1: young age, my grandpa would bring me all these sports
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Speaker 1: magazines and newspapers. My dad would give me the paper
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Speaker 1: every day, and I learned to read. There was something
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Speaker 1: special about just having that newspaper in your hand. It's
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Speaker 1: a great world we live in now. where it's very
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Speaker 1: easy and it's digital and all the news is right there.
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Speaker 1: But I remember, Mac, you were reading the newspapers all
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Speaker 1: the way up until not too long ago when they
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Speaker 1: got delivered. So there's just something special, not only about
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Speaker 1: the print industry, newspapers, magazines, but the dedicated team reporters
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Speaker 1: that are with the team. Now we have– they'll hire, Mac,
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Speaker 1: random people to cover the team that don't even really–
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Speaker 1: have to travel with the team or be with the team.
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Speaker 1: We're gone from the days of a Rick Bunnell who's
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Speaker 1: on every road trip that could give you the intel
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Speaker 1: on the inside. It's just completely sad because while I
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Speaker 1: love what we do and talking about sports, the fact
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Speaker 1: that the reading about sports is going away really bothers me.
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Speaker 5: Well, it sucks for the fans. It's less information for fans.
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Speaker 5: And yeah, there's tons of folks that cover the Hornets,
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Speaker 5: a lot of the blogs and a podcast. That's good stuff.
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Speaker 5: But there's something about this. There's something about not having,
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Speaker 5: and I didn't realize it was that many for McClatchy,
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Speaker 5: not having a designated writer for a sport like the
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Speaker 5: NBA and your local team is crazy.
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Speaker 1: No, it's sad.
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Speaker 5: But I grew up as a big sports page nerd, too.
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Speaker 5: I know right now there might be young people listening like,
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Speaker 5: what the heck? What the heck is this stuff you
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Speaker 5: speak of? This paper.
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Speaker 1: Every once in a while, Mac, somehow you'd get the
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Speaker 1: USA Today in color, and it's like, wow. USA Today,
17:54
Speaker 1: I love. Oh, my God, dude.
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Speaker 4: I love.
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Speaker 5: But my dad would, like, have the New York Post,
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Speaker 5: the New York Daily News, the Baltimore Sun. Like, he
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Speaker 5: would have a ton of newspapers there on the daily.
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Speaker 5: And so, yeah, it is sad what's happening to the business, man.
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Speaker 5: No doubt about it. Braves lose last night to the Cubs,
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Speaker 5: unless they rallied late, and I didn't notice it, Bo.
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Speaker 5: And I saw they were down 7-3. I'm assuming— they
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Speaker 5: lost seven three yeah seven three was the final last
18:23
Speaker 5: night in chicago against the cubs um they will uh
18:27
Speaker 5: they will continue their series uh later on uh tonight
18:32
Speaker 5: ladies and gentlemen yep and uh two two playoff teams
18:35
Speaker 5: right there they could uh they could see each other
18:38
Speaker 5: somewhere along the way so this definitely this tough stretch
18:40
Speaker 5: for the braves continues we said they got a lot
18:43
Speaker 5: of tough series in a row and certainly the cubs
18:45
Speaker 5: are uh it's not shocking the cubs are uh They're
18:48
Speaker 5: a World Series contender in their own right this year.
18:51
Speaker 5: Is next week the last week of the regular season?
18:54
Speaker 5: I think we have two more weeks, right? So is
18:56
Speaker 5: it this week and next week, or is it... I
18:59
Speaker 5: have to check the exact.
19:01
Speaker 1: It is next weekend. That's what I was figuring. The
19:04
Speaker 1: 27th is the last day of the regular season.
19:05
Speaker 5: Based on the amount of games left, that's what I
19:06
Speaker 5: was kind of figuring, is we've got to be in
19:08
Speaker 5: the final two weeks.
19:09
Speaker 1: 50s ended about mid-May, but yeah, anyways. Mid-May? Try mid-April.
19:15
Speaker 1: All righty. When we come back here on the Mac
19:17
Speaker 1: and Bone radio program, Coach Canales reacts to watching the
19:21
Speaker 1: defensive film. Princely talks about his performance in the NFC
19:26
Speaker 1: South Rivals. They're on that struggle bus as well. Sports
19:29
Speaker 1: Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
19:52
Speaker 6: Yeah, we could have certainly done a better job of recontaining. And,
19:56
Speaker 6: you know, he was able to get out on the perimeter.
19:59
Speaker 6: He was able to, you know, escape through the middle.
20:01
Speaker 6: And that's where we have to be able to collapse
20:02
Speaker 6: that quicker. And then there's always somebody that's got to
20:06
Speaker 6: have their eyes on him in a zone, you know,
20:08
Speaker 6: when they're dropping back into coverages. But we got to
20:10
Speaker 6: get off blocks. We got to get off blocks and
20:12
Speaker 6: rally up when those types of plays happen.
20:17
Speaker 5: There you go, Coach Canales talking about Caleb Williams making
20:20
Speaker 5: play after play with his legs. And when he didn't
20:23
Speaker 5: keep the ball and run it, he got outside with
20:26
Speaker 5: his legs and then used the arm bone to beat
20:30
Speaker 5: us from outside the pocket. It was absurd. It was redundant.
20:35
Speaker 5: It was annoying as hell. We got to tip our
20:37
Speaker 5: hat to a man. I'm not a fan of his
20:40
Speaker 5: new mustache. But I am a fan, but if that's
20:43
Speaker 5: my quarterback, I'm very excited about the way he played
20:47
Speaker 5: football on Sunday at our expense.
20:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the only thing we can say is you've
20:52
Speaker 1: got a bad mustache, Mr. Williams. Other than that, it's...
20:56
Speaker 1: You know, hopefully we don't see you again for a while.
20:59
Speaker 5: Nick Scott tried to knock that mustache off him at
21:01
Speaker 5: the one yard line. But other than that, we didn't
21:03
Speaker 5: touch the man. Got one good shot at him. It
21:05
Speaker 5: was their own one yard line. Yep.
21:06
Speaker 1: That's about it. Oh, my goodness. Nick Scott's the rare
21:10
Speaker 1: guy that actually got near Caleb Williams. Yeah.
21:14
Speaker 5: After he picked up about 12 yards to put it
21:16
Speaker 5: at the doorstep. Anyway, man, it's this just in. We
21:22
Speaker 5: were frustrated Sunday with our defense. It gave up 59 yards.
21:25
Speaker 5: Freaking points. So yesterday, Coach Canales, you know, it was
21:29
Speaker 5: going to be asked all about what did you see
21:32
Speaker 5: on tape? And you're not going to get too many details.
21:35
Speaker 5: I mean, you know what I mean? You're not going
21:37
Speaker 5: to get a whole lot of what was wrong specifically.
21:42
Speaker 5: He does not want to share that sort of stuff publicly.
21:46
Speaker 5: But you'll get some general conversation. He certainly stood up
21:51
Speaker 5: for Avero's scheme. Again, a guy that, for better or worse,
21:54
Speaker 5: he believes in, has continued to bring back as a
21:57
Speaker 5: defensive coordinator.
21:59
Speaker 1: Let's start, Bone.
22:00
Speaker 5: And you also have Canales being asked about that very
22:04
Speaker 5: interesting exchange with him and Caleb Williams after the game.
22:07
Speaker 5: So you'll get that here in a second. But let's
22:09
Speaker 5: just start with the basics here. They had eight plays,
22:13
Speaker 5: the Bears did, of 22 yards or more. This is
22:17
Speaker 5: a defensive scheme.
22:19
Speaker 1: Where the whole, like.
22:21
Speaker 5: The number one credo and mantra is limit the big plays.
22:25
Speaker 5: Don't give up the big plays. They gave up eight
22:28
Speaker 5: of 22 yards or more. And Canales talked about allowing
22:31
Speaker 5: so many explosives.
22:33
Speaker 6: There were run plays and there were a couple of
22:35
Speaker 6: pass plays that got out. And that's the communication. That's
22:39
Speaker 6: the connectedness. And in the run game, for sure, just
22:41
Speaker 6: making sure that the back isn't entering into the second
22:45
Speaker 6: level of the defense unimpeded. And this is something where
22:48
Speaker 6: You know, when you look at those point of attack plays,
22:51
Speaker 6: you know, that safeties have or that corners have out
22:54
Speaker 6: in space, out in the field. Well, it gets all
22:57
Speaker 6: of a sudden it's an open field tackling drill. If
22:58
Speaker 6: we're not fitting things up and we don't make the
23:01
Speaker 6: backs check their feet and have to bounce something or
23:03
Speaker 6: slow down so that we can all get there in
23:05
Speaker 6: a timely fashion. So that all starts up front. That
23:08
Speaker 6: all starts with the proper fits.
23:09
Speaker 4: And all that.
23:11
Speaker 1: Feels like, Mac, you could say, and we'll talk to
23:14
Speaker 1: Princeton about this later, but there are certain matchups where
23:17
Speaker 1: obviously in most games you have to be fundamentally sound.
23:22
Speaker 1: But when you're playing certain quarterbacks defensively, you really have
23:26
Speaker 1: to zone in on certain fundamentals. And it feels like
23:29
Speaker 1: there was a fundamental breakdown in many games of the
23:32
Speaker 1: defense where the basic stuff, whether it was because of
23:37
Speaker 1: the stuff that Cale Williams was doing or whatever, it
23:40
Speaker 1: felt like of all the matchups in this league right now,
23:42
Speaker 1: there are certain guys, and Cale Williams is one of them,
23:45
Speaker 1: where if you're not fundamentally sound, he will carve you up.
23:47
Speaker 1: And he did that, and that's containment, and that is tackling.
23:51
Speaker 1: That offense, you better have one of your better days.
23:55
Speaker 1: And if you don't, that's what could happen. Josh Allen's
23:58
Speaker 1: probably one of those guys. There's certain guys in this league,
24:01
Speaker 1: and I'll throw Caleb Williams up there right now, too.
24:03
Speaker 1: If you don't have your fundamentals in line defensively, you
24:07
Speaker 1: are in a world of hurt.
24:08
Speaker 5: The one thing, though, that you've got to say is
24:10
Speaker 5: it was far from only Caleb Williams. You heard Canales
24:13
Speaker 5: there talking about basically the big plays in the run
24:16
Speaker 5: game is what he was talking about. Two different running
24:19
Speaker 5: backs had 100 freaking yards. So, I mean, yes, the
24:22
Speaker 5: contain is a bit... Well, that's the tackling fundamentals as
24:24
Speaker 5: well there, yes. And Canales said it wasn't tackling and
24:27
Speaker 5: said it wasn't our lack of working on tackling. It
24:30
Speaker 5: was a big Mike Tomlin theory, Bone, on Sunday night
24:34
Speaker 5: on NBC that the reason why all these points are
24:37
Speaker 5: being scored is teams can't... practice tackling like they used to.
24:40
Speaker 5: And Canales kind of said, that's not it. And you
24:42
Speaker 5: heard his explanation there for what happened in the run
24:45
Speaker 5: game bone. They came at us and they ran right
24:48
Speaker 5: at us and they punched us in the freaking mouth
24:50
Speaker 5: and they moved bodies and guys couldn't get off blocks.
24:53
Speaker 5: Like all that's a big part of it too, man.
24:56
Speaker 5: Like it's, you give up 59 points in 552 yards.
24:59
Speaker 5: It ain't just one dang thing. That's, that's the thing
25:02
Speaker 5: that's so scary. If one player beat us, or one particular,
25:06
Speaker 5: if it was just Caleb Williams breaking contain and making
25:09
Speaker 5: plays out of the pocket, you would say what you
25:11
Speaker 5: just said. Eh, most guys ain't going to do that
25:13
Speaker 5: to us.
25:14
Speaker 1: But B. John Robinson's fixing to come downhill at our heinies, man.
25:18
Speaker 1: You know? I've tried not to think about him all
25:20
Speaker 1: that much yet. Wednesday will turn our attention to Atlanta Day,
25:26
Speaker 1: I guess, Mac. I saw a movie recently, and the
25:28
Speaker 1: Panther game the other day reminded me a little bit
25:32
Speaker 1: of it. I saw the movie The End of Oak Street.
25:34
Speaker 1: With Anne Hathaway, where the dinosaurs come back and take
25:39
Speaker 1: over the neighborhood. I felt like the other day on Sunday,
25:42
Speaker 1: I was on Oak Street. And our neighborhood got destroyed,
25:45
Speaker 1: but it wasn't by dinosaurs. It was by a pack
25:48
Speaker 1: of bears that destroyed the entire neighborhood. Oh, my goodness. Yeah,
25:52
Speaker 1: that was like a horror film, no doubt about it.
25:54
Speaker 5: I mean, how many Panther fans have woken up in
25:57
Speaker 5: a cold sweat, you know, yelling about another Bears touchdown?
26:02
Speaker 1: I mean, it was ugly, man. When I was walking
26:04
Speaker 1: Murphy McNugget today, I turned the corner and I thought,
26:07
Speaker 1: you know, could there be a bear waiting for me there?
26:10
Speaker 5: I'm now looking for bears in my everyday life. All right,
26:13
Speaker 5: let's keep it going here, man. Let's keep it going.
26:15
Speaker 5: By the way, 7 o'clock hour, we'll let you hear
26:18
Speaker 5: what some of the national media members are saying about
26:20
Speaker 5: the Panthers' defense, including one of our own.
26:23
Speaker 1: One of our own.
26:24
Speaker 5: Taken Avero. I mean, just taking him out verbally. You'll
26:30
Speaker 5: hear that coming up in the 7 o'clock hour. But
26:32
Speaker 5: let's keep it going with Canales. This is Dave Canales.
26:36
Speaker 5: Asked about the scheme. He defended his Eurovero scheme and
26:40
Speaker 5: talked about why he likes it, why he doesn't think
26:43
Speaker 5: there's a scheme problem.
26:45
Speaker 6: This is a very, you know, in terms of just
26:47
Speaker 6: the collection of it, the way that we employ the safeties,
26:49
Speaker 6: the way we move our secondary around, it keeps offenses guessing.
26:53
Speaker 6: I've been on the other side of this scheme as well.
26:55
Speaker 6: It does put pressure on the front and the safety
26:58
Speaker 6: show up from depth to fit into their gaps. But
27:02
Speaker 6: the front play, the front seven, we got to be
27:05
Speaker 6: really connected on that front seven to make sure that
27:07
Speaker 6: a lot of the runs are getting bottlenecked into into
27:10
Speaker 6: alleys and that our guys can show up. We ask
27:12
Speaker 6: our corners to play physically on the edges. Those are
27:16
Speaker 6: things that I really appreciate about the scheme. And, you know,
27:19
Speaker 6: a lot of times you're standing there at quarterback when
27:21
Speaker 6: you drop back when it is a pass. So that's
27:23
Speaker 6: the run game. We talk about the pass game. You
27:25
Speaker 6: don't really know what it's going to end up being,
27:29
Speaker 6: what the coverage shell and those different things are going
27:31
Speaker 6: to be until right after the snap. And you're having
27:34
Speaker 6: to evaluate that process later in the down. Those are
27:37
Speaker 6: the things, the leveraging and the matching, when it's working cohesively,
27:43
Speaker 6: it creates a lot of two-on-ones for the defense and
27:46
Speaker 6: different things like that. So that's the heart of the defense.
27:49
Speaker 6: That's the scheme. That's what I believe in. And that's
27:52
Speaker 6: what we have to make sure we get our guys doing.
27:54
Speaker 6: to continue to.
27:55
Speaker 1: All right.
27:55
Speaker 5: That's a lot of stuff probably over my head and
27:57
Speaker 5: a lot of our heads schematically. I was trying to
27:59
Speaker 5: take notes. Panther fans are listening to that. Like that's great.
28:04
Speaker 5: How the hell did we give up 59 points in
28:06
Speaker 5: an NFL football game?
28:08
Speaker 1: Oh my God.
28:09
Speaker 5: And again, you know, I mentioned Bijan Robinson, but there's
28:13
Speaker 5: a quarter there there's the quarterbacks coming up bone. Give
28:17
Speaker 5: us an opportunity. to get right on defense. It's a
28:22
Speaker 5: mammoth two weeks to be able to get some dang
28:25
Speaker 5: confidence back on that side of the ball. And if
28:27
Speaker 5: you don't bone, I will be scared at that point.
28:30
Speaker 1: I will be. But when you give up 59 points,
28:33
Speaker 1: here's the flip side of it, Matt. What's Atlanta saying
28:35
Speaker 1: right now in their building? Atlanta's saying, hey, we can
28:37
Speaker 1: figure some things out now. Look at the Panthers' defense
28:39
Speaker 1: looked like last week. So they're thinking the same thing.
28:43
Speaker 1: I venture to say I trust the Panthers' defense to
28:46
Speaker 1: show up more than the Falcons' offense currently with their
28:50
Speaker 1: quarterback situation, but they're thinking that in their building as well.
28:53
Speaker 1: Cleveland right now is thinking, man, what can we do
28:55
Speaker 1: to that Panthers' defense in a couple weeks? They're all
28:57
Speaker 1: thinking right now that Panther defense is ripe for the picket,
29:00
Speaker 1: and I think they'll be wrong, but that's what they're thinking.
29:02
Speaker 1: Cleveland's thinking, when the hell's this season over? Did we?
29:07
Speaker 5: Todd Monken is thinking, why the hell did I take
29:10
Speaker 5: this job with these quarterbacks? Anyway, we'll talk about, obviously,
29:15
Speaker 5: those games in the next couple of weeks moving forward.
29:18
Speaker 5: I have a feeling Cooper Rush will not do the
29:20
Speaker 5: Caleb Williams stuff. I have a feeling he will not
29:23
Speaker 5: make us look that damn silly.
29:24
Speaker 1: The Atlanta topic yesterday, I saw... 680 the fan 680
29:29
Speaker 1: it's the fan right 680 the fan yeah I saw
29:31
Speaker 1: them tweet out one of their discussions yesterday it was
29:35
Speaker 1: should the Falcons turn to Jack Strand versus the Panthers
29:38
Speaker 1: Jack Strand I didn't even know i didn't know he
29:41
Speaker 1: was in the mix i thought it was already down
29:43
Speaker 1: on cooper rush so so is well they should be
29:45
Speaker 1: down on everybody to place quarterback there i wouldn't blame
29:48
Speaker 1: them for.
29:48
Speaker 5: That debating strand to rush or can Pennix go this week? Yeah,
29:51
Speaker 5: that's what I was thinking. The other possibility would be Pennix. Atlanta,
29:56
Speaker 5: Stefanski in Atlanta, not really saying anything about the quarterback situation. Meanwhile,
30:01
Speaker 5: in Cleveland, Monken did say, I reviewed the film and
30:05
Speaker 5: based on the film, Deshaun Watson's getting another start. I
30:08
Speaker 5: am very skeptical, though, Bone, that Deshaun Watson starts in
30:11
Speaker 5: their home opener against us.
30:13
Speaker 1: No.
30:13
Speaker 5: The way the fans feel, he better play really good
30:16
Speaker 5: if he wants... to get to start that game. Let's
30:18
Speaker 5: move to some more from yesterday, Bone, in the press conferences,
30:23
Speaker 5: because in the last hour of the show yesterday, we
30:26
Speaker 5: talked about this exchange. I didn't know about this exchange
30:30
Speaker 5: between Caleb Williams and Dave Canales after the game. Typical handshakes, right? Players,
30:35
Speaker 5: coaches from the opposition handshaking after the game. And Gabe
30:39
Speaker 5: McDonald was down there on the field and got the
30:42
Speaker 5: video of this. And you can hear Caleb Williams say
30:45
Speaker 5: something to the effect of, Man, y'all got.
30:47
Speaker 1: A great defense.
30:50
Speaker 5: And I think most of Twitter thought what we thought.
30:55
Speaker 5: You can't be. That's got to be disingenuous. Like, are
30:58
Speaker 5: you being a smart ass? So Dave Canales Bone, who
31:02
Speaker 5: I do believe is probably one of the few people
31:05
Speaker 5: in the world that likes to think the best of everybody.
31:09
Speaker 5: You know, Dave Canales Bone had to take that comment
31:13
Speaker 5: at face value.
31:16
Speaker 6: No, I just, to me, it was a, it was
31:18
Speaker 6: a common post game humility. It was the same thing
31:22
Speaker 6: with my exchange with Ben Johnson. It was Caleb just,
31:25
Speaker 6: you know, talking about preparing for the guys that we
31:28
Speaker 6: had and all that. And, you know, the type of
31:30
Speaker 6: defense that we were able to play down the stretch
31:32
Speaker 6: last season, you know, he was aware of it. They
31:36
Speaker 6: took advantage of things and they executed better than we did,
31:39
Speaker 6: you know, so I didn't take that as a dig
31:40
Speaker 6: at all. I thought it was a good kid just
31:42
Speaker 6: being respectful and just, kind of making a comment about
31:45
Speaker 6: just like, hey, we prepared and you guys played hard
31:49
Speaker 6: and he didn't have to say it. We played better today.
31:51
Speaker 1: Mack, here's the issue here as we break this thing down.
31:54
Speaker 1: It is a quarterback talking to an offensive-minded head coach
31:59
Speaker 1: on a day where the offense was good. I would
32:01
Speaker 1: think that if Caleb Williams back was being in that
32:05
Speaker 1: normal post-game chatter trying to say something nice, wouldn't he say, hey,
32:10
Speaker 1: great job with the offense. You guys look great out
32:12
Speaker 1: there today. Wouldn't he say something more positive about the
32:15
Speaker 1: outside of the ball that was good and not the
32:17
Speaker 1: one that carved up and gave up 59 points? Wouldn't
32:19
Speaker 1: he say, hey, Bryce looked good. Your offense looked great, coach.
32:22
Speaker 1: Good game. Wouldn't he be more on the actual thing
32:25
Speaker 1: that looked good?
32:26
Speaker 5: That was my takeaway yesterday is that– I would have–
32:31
Speaker 5: if you're trying to compliment something, you'd probably compliment the
32:36
Speaker 5: offense and Bryce. Hey, man, they made us work for it, man.
32:40
Speaker 5: We had to keep scoring. We had to keep up
32:42
Speaker 5: with your offense. You have a great defense. It feels like–
32:46
Speaker 5: I don't know. That would be like you saying– Why
32:48
Speaker 5: would you say that because it wasn't great?
32:50
Speaker 1: That would be like you saying to Fitty, hey, great show.
32:53
Speaker 1: You look really tall out there today. You look really
32:55
Speaker 1: tall out there.
32:56
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness i just um so yeah it just
33:00
Speaker 5: feels smart alecky to me it really does here's the
33:03
Speaker 5: thing too dave canalis even if d if deep down
33:07
Speaker 5: inside he thinks yeah kid was being a smart ass
33:09
Speaker 5: he's not gonna say it no he's not gonna he's
33:11
Speaker 5: gonna defuse the situation so and i don't blame him
33:14
Speaker 5: for that.
33:15
Speaker 1: Would would uh cable williams said would he say that
33:17
Speaker 1: to dan campbell though Would he be a smartass to
33:20
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell or Dan Campbell? My defense was ass. What
33:24
Speaker 1: the hell are you talking about? Dan Campbell would eat him,
33:26
Speaker 1: his kneecaps. Anyway, all right.
33:30
Speaker 5: So let's give you a little bit of Princely because
33:33
Speaker 5: he spoke yesterday. For a long time, to his credit,
33:37
Speaker 5: he stood there yesterday and answered all these questions that
33:41
Speaker 5: the media asked of him as he evaluated the way
33:45
Speaker 5: he played and how tough it was against Caleb Williams
33:50
Speaker 5: on Sunday.
33:52
Speaker 2: Like I said, I think I rushed pretty well. You know,
33:54
Speaker 2: any other, I wouldn't say any other, but a lot
33:57
Speaker 2: of other quarterbacks in the NFL, a lot of some
34:00
Speaker 2: of those plays I had, you know, I pushed the
34:03
Speaker 2: pocket pretty well i would say i pushed it great
34:09
Speaker 2: you know i'm saying but a quarterback like calum williams
34:11
Speaker 2: you know i'm saying it's just it's it's hard he's
34:14
Speaker 2: very athletic he's very gifted you know a lot of
34:17
Speaker 2: other quarterbacks in the nfl wouldn't have made those type of.
34:20
Speaker 5: Plays so there and he's right about that last part
34:24
Speaker 5: there he also though is right that he got good
34:27
Speaker 5: push push the pocket and got good rush there's no
34:30
Speaker 5: denying that But the problem is against that dude, he's
34:35
Speaker 5: not a normal quarterback that you could just push the pocket,
34:39
Speaker 5: great rush, affect him, right?
34:42
Speaker 1: If he can escape, you've got to... He wants that order.
34:44
Speaker 1: He wants to move. Rush Lane integrity.
34:47
Speaker 5: Everybody has to get there to a point and keep
34:50
Speaker 5: him kind of hemmed in.
34:51
Speaker 1: And I do realize, Bone, it's easier said than done. Right?
34:55
Speaker 5: I don't want to act like you, me, Fitty, and
34:59
Speaker 5: Willie P could go out there on a front four, Bone...
35:02
Speaker 5: and rush with Rush Lane integrity and keep Caleb Williams
35:06
Speaker 5: in the pocket.
35:06
Speaker 1: I don't want to act like that. We are a
35:07
Speaker 1: show with no integrity whatsoever. Don't sell Willie P short.
35:11
Speaker 3: Remember he had that one sack in the Washington, D.C.
35:13
Speaker 1: High school football. Like Rudy. Did he actually have one
35:18
Speaker 1: career sack? I thought he did. Oh, okay.
35:21
Speaker 3: And you're also talking to a guy that made his mark.
35:25
Speaker 3: And my four plays I had to play as a
35:27
Speaker 3: sixth grader, made a stop on fourth down, was on
35:30
Speaker 3: one side of the field, ran to the other side,
35:33
Speaker 3: tackled a guy down for a loss.
35:35
Speaker 1: That was your relentless motor. Your relentless motor. Why didn't
35:39
Speaker 1: they play you more then?
35:42
Speaker 3: I was a backup, but you had to play at
35:44
Speaker 3: least like four plays.
35:46
Speaker 1: And my coach actually followed the rule. Most coaches didn't
35:49
Speaker 1: follow the rule because you couldn't enforce it. He followed it. Marlo!
35:52
Speaker 1: That's what he called it. Marlo, it's time for your
35:55
Speaker 1: four plays. God help us. Matt, one quick note on
35:58
Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer Luke Kuechly. It was announced yesterday. Now,
36:01
Speaker 1: keep in mind that he's filling in for the games
36:04
Speaker 1: that Ross Tucker would do. on CBS, so he's not
36:07
Speaker 1: near the top of the charts. Romo got the DUI.
36:12
Speaker 1: They moved Ross Tucker up with Ian Eagle. They moved J.J.
36:15
Speaker 1: Watt to Romo's spot on CBS. So Luke Kuechly, week three, Mac,
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Speaker 1: for CBS, will have the Raiders-Saints game as his first
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Speaker 1: Sunday assignment for the NFL on CBS. That's cool, man.
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Speaker 1: A couple weeks from now. That's very cool. We'll be
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Speaker 1: with Chris Lewis and Amanda Baleonis. So Luke Kuechly will
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Speaker 1: be on national TV again in a couple weeks. When
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Speaker 1: we come back here on the Mac and Bone Show,
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Speaker 1: college football stuff aplenty. The week of Lane begins. We
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Speaker 1: have a controversial and bad press conference moment for Arch
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Speaker 1: Manning and an odd moment between Jordan Hudson and a
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Speaker 1: media member. Sports Radio 92.7 WFMZ.
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Speaker 4: But I told the players today, man, like, you don't
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Speaker 4: have anything to worry about as far as, like, attention
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Speaker 4: on you all week and everything. There's just going to
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Speaker 4: be so much attention, hatred, everything on me. I said,
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Speaker 4: you just get to go play. And I said, really,
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Speaker 4: the pressure's on them. They're the team that, you know,
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Speaker 4: we won seven games last year. They won 13. They returned,
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Speaker 4: you know, two Heisman candidates. How often does that ever
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Speaker 4: happen in the same backfield? I mean, we had it
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Speaker 4: one time with Matt Liner and Reggie Bush. and second-longest
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Speaker 4: winning streak in the country. So you guys just get
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Speaker 4: to go play, and the pressure's not on you.
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Speaker 1: There you go, Lane Kiffin. I like it.
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Speaker 5: I like it. Convince your players. It's all about the
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Speaker 5: heat that they're going to bring to me. No one's
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Speaker 5: going to be worried about you. And then convince your players.
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Speaker 5: I don't know if you're going to be able to
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Speaker 5: do this. But convince your players that there's no pressure
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Speaker 5: on you. And the only pressure on players is on
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Speaker 5: the Ole Miss players in this game. I don't know, Bone,
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Speaker 5: if that is accurate. But if you can get the
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Speaker 5: guys to.
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Speaker 1: Believe, you know what I mean? That's what coaching is
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Speaker 1: all about, I guess. You talk about a wild scene.
38:15
Speaker 1: I did say yesterday that I'm not as enamored right now.
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Speaker 1: with College Game Day, as I once was. I love Reese.
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Speaker 1: I love Herbie still, despite the detractors of him. Pat
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Speaker 1: McAfee has kind of taken over the show, and it
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Speaker 1: can be exhausting. But I will say this week, though,
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Speaker 1: my eyes will probably be on Game Day just to
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Speaker 1: witness that scene, Mac. LSU, Ole Miss. I just kind
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Speaker 1: of want to see how wild it is. I want
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Speaker 1: to see that fan base and how rabid they are.
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Speaker 1: That will be, I think, something worth watching, just that
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Speaker 1: whole scene in general of how Ole Miss reacts.
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Speaker 5: To the Tigers being in town. It's going to be
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Speaker 5: freaking off the hook, man. They're going to be going
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Speaker 5: berserk on him, and it's what college football is all about.
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Speaker 1: It's just that passion.
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Speaker 5: Sometimes it's a form of hate when a dude leaves
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Speaker 5: you when you're in the damn college football playoff. It's
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Speaker 5: going to be phenomenal. You are not alone, Bone. in, in,
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Speaker 5: in sports fans that are turning against game day. I
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Speaker 5: read multiple articles about it yesterday. There's a lot of
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Speaker 5: things going on with the show. They got themselves in
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Speaker 5: hot water over this whole Ted Cruz interview because they
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Speaker 5: did not offer any equal time to the other side
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Speaker 5: of the protect college sports act. And because of that,
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Speaker 5: they were called out on that. And now they are
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Speaker 5: putting on the head of, because there are groups out there,
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Speaker 5: political groups that.
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Speaker 1: Don't like it. They don't think.
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Speaker 5: They think it's bad for the student-athletes. It's taking away
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Speaker 5: a little too much from them. So the president of
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Speaker 5: the NAACP will be on SportsCenter tonight. You can tell, Bone,
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Speaker 5: that ESPN has realized, oh, we probably messed up a
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Speaker 5: little bit here. Not to mention.
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Speaker 1: They've got Saban and Ted Cruz both on there. They
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Speaker 1: did not have. The week before was Nick Saban pontificating
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Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, they haven't really got the other side,
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Speaker 1: and that's part of the whole deal right now.
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Speaker 5: There could be a very good reason why they didn't
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Speaker 5: get the other side. Disney, as a company, is pro
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Speaker 5: Protect College Sports Act. So that's part of.
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Speaker 1: It here, too.
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Speaker 5: They were probably trying to pull a fast one here.
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Speaker 5: and America called them on it. 92, when are you
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Speaker 5: going to jump in here on game day?
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 1: Army-Navy week, you'll be in there. I'll be there whenever
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Speaker 1: they want me to be there. That's all I have
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Speaker 1: to say for now.
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Speaker 5: That's Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz has called his shot on that.
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Speaker 5: He said, we want to get President Trump on game
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Speaker 5: day signing the bill. Ted Cruz has also said, I
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Speaker 5: don't know if that's going to come to fruition or not.
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Speaker 5: Ted Cruz also said he expects a vote this week.
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Speaker 5: So we'll see what happens. I am not holding my breath.
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Speaker 5: that uh Washington DC can save uh college sports but
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Speaker 5: we will see what ends up happening with that one
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Speaker 5: um all right let's uh let's talk about Arch Manning
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Speaker 5: uh he was a hero on Saturday Night Bone in
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Speaker 5: the comeback wasn't the prettiest stat line but if Cam
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Speaker 5: Coleman catches the pass the deep ball that somehow goes
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Speaker 5: off of him while he dives and gets intercepted.
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Speaker 1: So fluky. That was a crazy, we didn't mention it yesterday.
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Speaker 1: That was an insane play. And if Ryan Wingo, absolutely.
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Speaker 5: And if Ryan Wingo catches a wide open touchdown pass,
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Speaker 5: Arch Manning's numbers look a hell of a lot better,
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Speaker 5: but he performed when they had to in the comeback.
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Speaker 1: He had a hell of a Saturday night. He was
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Speaker 1: giddy in those post-game interviews.
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Speaker 5: Then came Monday's press conference, Bone, and he talked, he
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Speaker 5: was asked, or he got into a conversation with the
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Speaker 5: media about this AI thing of Sark and Holly Rowe.
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Speaker 5: This has become a discussion because Sark basically blew off
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Speaker 5: the interview, yelled something about longhorns or whatever, and then
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Speaker 5: just rolled out on the post-game interview. There's an AI
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Speaker 5: video out there.
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Speaker 1: You'll hear Arch Manning describing what's in the AI video.
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure Bone, his pops and his uncles and
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Speaker 5: his granddad will love this press conference moment from him.
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Speaker 4: I've seen a few AI edits and stuff, but that's
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Speaker 4: about it.
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Speaker 1: I saw an AI edit of Sark's interview. Y'all seen
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Speaker 1: that one? That's a good one. Of him slapping Holly Roe.
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Speaker 2: It's hilarious.
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Speaker 1: It's hilarious.
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Speaker 5: Arch loves it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good one. The media is laughing there.
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Speaker 3: Look.
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Speaker 1: Why are they laughing so much? Why are all the
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Speaker 1: adults in the room laughing that much? It's not good. Normally,
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Speaker 1: the Manning sense of humor lands back in that dad
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Speaker 1: joke kind of way, whether it be his uncles or
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Speaker 1: even his father. That was not a Manning joke that
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Speaker 1: actually delivered. The rare time I think that Manning humor
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Speaker 1: actually didn't land like it normally does. Listen, do I.
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Speaker 5: Think that a bunch of guys on the team have
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Speaker 5: been watching that video laughing? Do I think college-age kids
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Speaker 5: probably think that's funny?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Do I think this is the end of the world?
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Speaker 5: Because I already see Spoonie. Spoonie got that text in quick.
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Speaker 5: This is such a nothing moment. It's no mammoth deal.
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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, if that was my son, we'd be
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Speaker 5: having a brief conversation.
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Speaker 1: Like, come on, kid.
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Speaker 5: Like, you are a highly paid athlete in NIL, the
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Speaker 5: University of Texas. You are one of the faces of
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Speaker 5: the University of Texas football program. You will soon be
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Speaker 5: one of the face of an NFL franchise. Think before
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Speaker 5: you joke about, you know, AI videos about women getting slapped.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's not the end of
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Speaker 1: the world.
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Speaker 5: I'm not treating it like it's the end of the world,
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Speaker 5: but real talk, y'all, to the dads out there. If
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Speaker 5: that was your son, would you not be like, my God,
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Speaker 5: he's a knucklehead?
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Speaker 1: Not the end of the world, but something you can do.
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Speaker 1: You can't. I mean, yeah, the video is stupid, and
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Speaker 1: I understand young people maybe not understand the fallout from
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Speaker 1: something like that in terms of, public speaking yet, which
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Speaker 1: he probably hasn't done necessarily. Maybe some media training, maybe?
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Speaker 1: Media training a little bit there. But it's just, look,
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Speaker 1: it's not the end of the world, but it's just
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Speaker 1: something you can't do. Yeah, it's, I was more.
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Speaker 5: Taken aback, because these young dudes are knuckleheads. I got
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Speaker 5: one in the house, man. And I remember with the knuckle, hell,
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Speaker 5: I'm still a knucklehead. But I know the knuckleheadedness that
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Speaker 5: we have at that age. But I couldn't believe how
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Speaker 5: the uproarious laughter of the media was. Like the adults
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Speaker 5: in the meeting. That was kind of weird to me.
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Speaker 1: And they acted like Archer's doing a stand-up routine. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: all right. They're probably fawning over that kid there in Austin, probably.
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Speaker 5: All right, let's talk about another awkward moment, Bone. So
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Speaker 5: Pat Welter is one of the guys, along with Brian Murphy,
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Speaker 5: that is... you know, been doing the investigating of the
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Speaker 5: UNC investigation into the football program. They've been talking to
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Speaker 5: people who have been questioned and kind of figuring out, okay,
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Speaker 5: what kind of questions are they asking? What are they
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Speaker 5: investigating with the football program? So Pat Welter has been
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Speaker 5: involved with that. Pat Welter, I guess, before the game
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Speaker 5: was on the sideline bone at UNC in their, before
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Speaker 5: the game against East Tennessee State. And he shared this
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Speaker 5: on social media. He says that Jordan Hudson, this is
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Speaker 5: her filming me filming her. They were in like a
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Speaker 5: film off. And I guess he is shooting. I'm sure
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Speaker 5: this is going to upset Fitty.
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Speaker 1: He is shooting. Fitty was filming Pat Welter filming Jordan Hudson.
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Speaker 1: While Jordan Hudson filmed Pat Welter. And Flounder was filming
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Speaker 1: Fitty film Pat Welter. So he is shooting. He is
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Speaker 1: shooting video Jordan Hudson. Like there she is standing on
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Speaker 1: the sideline. And she is like waving to him, smiling.
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Speaker 1: But she is like recording him back. It's an odd standoff.
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Speaker 5: But it's a very I'm telling you, man. First of all,
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Speaker 5: I don't know. Why are you filming her? I don't
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Speaker 5: like I guess you could snap a picture. I don't
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Speaker 5: know why you're filming. I don't know why you care.
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Speaker 5: As far as her goes, she does a lot of
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Speaker 5: weird stuff.
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Speaker 1: Standoffish things obviously herself gonna be upset with him so
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Speaker 1: she's yeah who knows how that whole thing started anyway right.
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Speaker 5: She's like oh you're filming me you're the guy investigating
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Speaker 5: uh my man's program here i'm gonna film you right
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Speaker 5: back and then i'm gonna wave to you.
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Speaker 1: And smile it's just i don't know it's kind of
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Speaker 1: silly It's kind of silly. It's a very Jordan Hudson-like moment,
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Speaker 1: I will say that. It is. Not really a huge deal,
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Speaker 1: but it is kind of like, what are we doing here?
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Speaker 1: On all sides of that.
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Speaker 5: For the record, none of this stuff we're talking about,
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Speaker 5: other than maybe the Protect College Sports Act, none of
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Speaker 5: this stuff we're talking about is a huge deal. But
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Speaker 5: it's just entertaining and fascinating stuff.
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Speaker 1: Jordan's part of the Protect Her Old Ass Husband Act,
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Speaker 1: which he's a part of.
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Speaker 5: Oh, man. Anyway, we're going to talk more college football later.
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Speaker 5: We are debuting the first time this season. Our top
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Speaker 5: five rankings of teams in the Carolinas on the gridiron, baby.
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Speaker 5: This will not be controversial at all, Bone, when we
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Speaker 5: do our rankings later on in the show.
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Speaker 1: I believe two of my kids will appear on these lists.
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Speaker 1: One and two. We already got them locked in one
47:19
Speaker 1: and two for you, Bone.
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Speaker 5: I also need to mention Michael Alford, the AD of
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Speaker 5: Florida State, was fired yesterday as well. Number one comment
47:28
Speaker 5: I saw is they want to make sure when they
47:30
Speaker 5: hire another football coach, he ain't doing it.
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Speaker 1: When we come back, what is more likely to keep happening?
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Speaker 1: The Panthers' defense keeps putting up stinkers or the offense
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Speaker 1: keeps balling out? We analyze. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.