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55KRC Thursday Show - Smitherman, Dan Hils, Warren Davidson, Andre Ewing, Liz Keating, Jay Ratliff · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: The talk station five O five, the fifty five k
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for summing up for me. In one sound
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  Speaker 4: by Joe Tracker Brian Thomas right here, glad to be
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  Speaker 4: hope you're having a wonderful day. Good to see Joe
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  Speaker 4: where he belongs, right there with his finger on the
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  Speaker 4: sound bite button and the phone umber you can call,
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  Speaker 4: love to hear from you. Maybe you got a comment
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  Speaker 4: about Police Chief Threes Thigi walking on thin ice right now,
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  Speaker 4: Rumors of her being fired swirling around the city of
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  Speaker 4: Cincinnati day. We are going to be talking about that
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  Speaker 4: this morning. I have some details on that, but you
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  Speaker 4: can call five one three, seven fifty five hundred, eight
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  Speaker 4: hundred and eighty two to three talk or go with
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  Speaker 4: pound five fifty on AT and T phones. Love hearing
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  Speaker 4: from the listeners, and I love hearing from Dan Hills,
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  Speaker 4: former FOP president. We had Ken Kobra on earlier. Ken
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  Speaker 4: quote in the paper responding to the claims about police
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  Speaker 4: Chief three, So that Thigi being hauled into the office
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  Speaker 4: and get a I don't know, a ton lashing from
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  Speaker 4: are I have to have purwal Or City manager long. Anyway,
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  Speaker 4: we'll talk to Dan Hills about the chief being forced
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  Speaker 4: to resign or not keep your pop going out as
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  Speaker 4: I always like say six point thirty with Dan Hills
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  Speaker 4: to seven oh five. Congressman Barren Davidson will get his
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  Speaker 4: thoughts comments on the reaction with the Israel Gaza broker
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  Speaker 4: peace deal, which I'm not saying is falling apart, but
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  Speaker 4: if you've been paying attention to what's going on the
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  Speaker 4: ground in Gaza, the Hamas folks a little bit upset
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  Speaker 4: and are going around murdering a bunch of Palestinians. Right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the very the governing body. I guess you could argue
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  Speaker 4: it's still the governing body Hamas for Gaza. Not that
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  Speaker 4: people voted on that, but shooting their own people, killing
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  Speaker 4: their own people, winding them up and putting bullets in
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  Speaker 4: the back of their head. There's been a lot of
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  Speaker 4: news articles about that, and they're claiming that the ones
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  Speaker 4: that they're killing, Hamas is killing these people because the
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  Speaker 4: people that they have selected to kill were working with
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  Speaker 4: the Israelis or something like that. Sounds remarkably similar to
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  Speaker 4: our hasty withdraw from Afghanistan, leaving a lot of the
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  Speaker 4: Afghanistan folks who had actually helped us during our occupation there, well,
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  Speaker 4: leaving them to a questionable future. I'm sure a lot
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  Speaker 4: of them didn't quite make it out of that same
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  Speaker 4: thing going on right now. So Andre Ewing the return
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  Speaker 4: heading on to bed last night, a little bit after
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  Speaker 4: my appointed bedtime, which is eight o'clock. So I'm looking
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  Speaker 4: at my watch like jeesus, twenty after eight. I gotta
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  Speaker 4: get going. And that's when I realized I got a
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  Speaker 4: text message from Andrea Ewing. Curse Breakers three hundred. Andrea
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  Speaker 4: Ewing brother Dre, he refers to himself as well, return
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  Speaker 4: of the Morning Show. He's an outspoken former police officer,
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  Speaker 4: retired with dignity, and he's been actively involved in criminal
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  Speaker 4: rehabilitation programs, and that that's the curse breaker three hundred thing.
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  Speaker 4: He's gonna outspoken on Facebook, he is. It's always say
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  Speaker 4: you gotta follow Andrea Ewing on Facebook, much in the
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  Speaker 4: same way I recommend people follow Signal ninety nine. I've
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  Speaker 4: got some words for her on this police chief threats
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  Speaker 4: a Thiji thing. Anyway, we'll hear about him and his
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  Speaker 4: reaction to these rumblings about the chief. We'll hear about
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  Speaker 4: the violence downtown. He's got his finger on the pulse
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  Speaker 4: of a lot of things going on in downtown Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 4: Andre Ewing at seven thirty. Liz Keating running for since
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  Speaker 4: a city council. I like Liz, She's a wonderful lady.
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  Speaker 4: Should joined the program at eight oh five. How is
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  Speaker 4: her campaign going, and of course her thoughts on the
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  Speaker 4: local big topics, including the debate last night? Did you
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  Speaker 4: watch it? If you did, call me up? Was that
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  Speaker 4: last night? Joe?
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  Speaker 2: Was that?
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  Speaker 4: It was six pm? Yeah, call me up. Let me
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  Speaker 4: know what you thought about it. Not a lot of shocking, literally,
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  Speaker 4: no one. A lot of local reporting on the debate
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  Speaker 4: between I have to have pro Wall and Corey Bowman.
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  Speaker 4: So anyhow, Liz geting on a variety of dovigs a
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  Speaker 4: day oh five, and of course it's Friday East. We
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  Speaker 4: hear from my heart MEATIA aviation expert Jay rat left
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  Speaker 4: today Boeing, increasing the number of jets delivered, but still
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  Speaker 4: behind Airbus Delta United reporting strong earnings and a nod
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  Speaker 4: to the premium passengers for the strong earnings report. Plus
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  Speaker 4: a passenger attacked a crew member, forcing an emergency landing
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  Speaker 4: on Alaska airlines. There's always somebody out there doing something
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  Speaker 4: extraordinarily stupid. We'll talk about that with Jay. We'll see
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  Speaker 4: if I can't come up with some curveball topics between
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  Speaker 4: now and eight thirty to throw at Jack. All right,
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  Speaker 4: since it's the bubbling percolating local issue and there are
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  Speaker 4: a lot of other bubbling percolating issues. Hey, you know
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  Speaker 4: there's I know one of the reasons that Democrats keep
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  Speaker 4: the government shut down is because they don't want to
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  Speaker 4: wait till this no King's prote us this weekend October eighteenth.
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  Speaker 4: Are you planning on attending. They're expecting millions and millions
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  Speaker 4: of people across the Sun Country to show up on
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  Speaker 4: October eighteenth, this Saturday. There's one event located near you.
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  Speaker 4: More than twenty five hundred of them are planned across
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  Speaker 4: every state in the Union. Organizers include all of the people,
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  Speaker 4: the usual characters that you would expect, and a lot
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  Speaker 4: of big fat promotional money by those left wing organizations
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  Speaker 4: like move on dot org that have been promoting this.
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  Speaker 4: So get out there and be angry and yell and
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  Speaker 4: scream and try to be peaceful if you can try
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  Speaker 4: to be I know, I pivoted away from the police
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  Speaker 4: chief comments, but this is going to be big, and
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  Speaker 4: the Democrats were waiting around for this, because then they're
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  Speaker 4: going to point to the millions of people who took
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  Speaker 4: to the streets on Saturday and protests to the Trump
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  Speaker 4: administration and whatever they're out protesting. Are they angry because
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  Speaker 4: evil Orange Man period, end of story, the Trump arrangement syndrome? People?
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  Speaker 4: Are they angry old immigration policies? Are the angry over
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  Speaker 4: ice picking up dangerous, murderous rapists and deporting them otherwise
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  Speaker 4: incarcerating him? Is this a rally in support of keeping
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  Speaker 4: illegal immigrant criminals on the street? Is that what this
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  Speaker 4: is about? Is it about Donald Trump negotiating peace between
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  Speaker 4: Israel and Hamas? Is it about anger over the lack
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  Speaker 4: of a two state solution? Is it anger over and
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  Speaker 4: frustration over the situation involving the Palestinian people? Is it
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  Speaker 4: anger and frustration over the green energy policies of the
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  Speaker 4: United States. It could be all of them, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna suggest yes, it is literally all of them. It
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  Speaker 4: reminds me of like the late sixties and early seventies
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  Speaker 4: with Vietnam protests, which included a whole bunch of different
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  Speaker 4: groups and factions coming together just as an angry mob.
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  Speaker 4: Look there they are. That must be the will of
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  Speaker 4: the people, and we'll see. I just want you to
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  Speaker 4: keep in mind. You know, there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: out there that probably have nothing to do on a Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: They'll be happy to show up at this protest because
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  Speaker 4: evil Orange man or whatever. But considering the population of
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  Speaker 4: the United States of America, consider that we have three
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  Speaker 4: hundred and forty plus or minus million people here, how
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  Speaker 4: many people have to show up to reflect and a
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  Speaker 4: reflection of popular public opinion. And just because you have
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  Speaker 4: a big showing of protesters, is it really truly representative
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  Speaker 4: of what the American people want? Because poll after poll
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  Speaker 4: after poll, you're talking about these eighty twenty issues, the
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  Speaker 4: Democrats always seem to be on the twenty percent side,
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  Speaker 4: Like guys pretending to be girls and getting into the
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  Speaker 4: restroom with your twelve year old daughter. Okay, that one's
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  Speaker 4: a no brainer. If I think the vast majority of
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  Speaker 4: people and if this protest was all about that issue,
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  Speaker 4: you would probably get a very very insignificant number of
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  Speaker 4: people showing up. But this is this is an ill
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  Speaker 4: defined moment of anger that's going on after it's taking
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  Speaker 4: place on Saturday, and a disturbing element is whether or not,
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  Speaker 4: like you know, the George Floyd protests, to b LM protests,
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  Speaker 4: the anti file protests, and there's gonna be a lot
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  Speaker 4: of anti file folks out and then amid this crowd,
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  Speaker 4: you know damn well that there will be, and I
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  Speaker 4: bet there'll be a lot of masked, black clad individuals
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  Speaker 4: waving their respective flags, but also throwing fireworks, bottle rocket,
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  Speaker 4: smoke bombs, maybe even as happened the other day driving
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  Speaker 4: an suv into ice agents. I suspect some of that's
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  Speaker 4: gonna happen. And the reason why is there's actually another
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  Speaker 4: new poll out. Not that this shocks anybody, but a
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  Speaker 4: subsizable number of liberals believe it is acceptable to break
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  Speaker 4: the law in the name of their political message. It's
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  Speaker 4: survey by Signal. They've on this several years and years
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  Speaker 4: in a row. Forty two percent of liberals say it
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  Speaker 4: is acceptable to go beyond peaceful protests, even if it
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  Speaker 4: means breaking the law. The number jumps to sixty percent
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  Speaker 4: of liberals under the age of thirty, so you're young
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  Speaker 4: people out there, and I would say a pretty decent
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  Speaker 4: majority at sixty percent are willing to break the law
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  Speaker 4: in the name of their political objective. The President's signal
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  Speaker 4: who did this poll in the Polster One side of
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  Speaker 4: American political spectrum, whether directly engaged in behaviors or not,
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  Speaker 4: now openly accepts breaking laws if it means advancing their
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  Speaker 4: political agenda. Considering their justification of illegal immigration, and instances
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  Speaker 4: that it is not a criminal act. If the act
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  Speaker 4: is desperate, this might not be such a surprise. So
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  Speaker 4: I just have to go back to what's on the
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  Speaker 4: books now. I guess they're actually angry at the laws
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  Speaker 4: that are on the books, laws defining who is lawfully
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  Speaker 4: in our country and who is not. And then there's
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  Speaker 4: that separate, pesky set of criminal laws independent of one's
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  Speaker 4: lawful status in the country or not. If you or
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  Speaker 4: I legal citizens commit a crime like, oh, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: raping a child, we're gonna end up in prison because
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  Speaker 4: our criminal justice system demands it. If any one of
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  Speaker 4: the quote unquote illegal immigrants that's been picked up by ICE,
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  Speaker 4: ICE doing its job and complying with federal law regarding immigration,
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  Speaker 4: if they pick up somebody who is a let's say,
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  Speaker 4: a child rapist like I just mentioned, and they happen
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  Speaker 4: to be illegal. The remedy we've got, and it's a
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  Speaker 4: quick one, is to throw them out of the damn
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  Speaker 4: country and center back for wherever they came, or pick
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  Speaker 4: a country randomly, which the Trump administration seems to do.
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  Speaker 4: I'm puzzled by that. Be well, how do you pick
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  Speaker 4: Uganda or whatever as a country when the person that
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  Speaker 4: you picked up came from pick a country, Venezuela. But
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  Speaker 4: it's a quick, expedient remedy to get a dangerous person
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  Speaker 4: out of our country.
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  Speaker 2: One.
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  Speaker 4: They had no right to be here in the first place,
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  Speaker 4: they broke the law doing so. And then oh look
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  Speaker 4: long and behold they turn out to be a moluster
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  Speaker 4: of children. Yeah, okay. Rather than send them through the
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  Speaker 4: criminal justice system and lock them up in a prison
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  Speaker 4: at taxpayer dollars expense, how about we just throw them out.
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  Speaker 4: That's why you're protesting, because you don't want a dangerous
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  Speaker 4: person picked up and chucked out of the country head
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  Speaker 4: to the streets this weekend. I just hope it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: end up in violence. Although if I was a betting man,
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  Speaker 4: I think you know which direction I'm going to go
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  Speaker 4: on that five at seventeen right now, feel free to
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  Speaker 4: after these brief words. This is fifty five KRC an
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  Speaker 4: to you. Five wing three seven four nine fifty five
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  Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty two to three talk pound five fifty
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  Speaker 4: on AT and T phones. Didn't get a whole lot
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  Speaker 4: of info out of them. Yesterday, Scott Wortman, the Cincinni Inquirer,
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  Speaker 4: on the current status of the race for city Council
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  Speaker 4: and mayor got that empower You seminar tonight really a
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  Speaker 4: good one. I strongly encourage you if you are interested
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  Speaker 4: in using chat, GPT, the Artificial Intelligence site, or any
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  Speaker 4: other of those similar sites, and there are quite a
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  Speaker 4: few of them these days. How do you use it
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  Speaker 4: to teach yourself? An effective learning tool? It can be.
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  Speaker 4: Michael Mercer joined the program. He's one conducting the seminar
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  Speaker 4: tonight seven pm. You can either show up live or
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  Speaker 4: log in from home. Just make sure you register and
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  Speaker 4: empower you America dot Org. I think that's going to
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  Speaker 4: be a really helpful seminar for a lot of folks
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  Speaker 4: Americans for Prosperity on the taxpayer torture Awards and the
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  Speaker 4: big picture with Jack Avidan. It's all right there. Fifty
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  Speaker 4: five care Se dot Com phone calls right there if
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  Speaker 4: you feel free to call, like Bobby did. Bobby, welcome
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  Speaker 4: back to the program. Happy Friday, eve to.
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  Speaker 5: You, Happy Thursday, my friend. Do you have any locations
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  Speaker 5: or where we're supposed to have these festivals and the
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  Speaker 5: thing Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: Well, according to the little map which I saw on
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  Speaker 4: the reporting on this, they're pretty much literally everywhere. There're
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  Speaker 4: twenty five hundred of them across the country. I suspect your
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  Speaker 4: most likely destination would be something like maybe City Hall downtown.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I honestly, Bobby. As much as I
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  Speaker 4: wanted to talk about the reality of what's going on
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  Speaker 4: and put it in the context I did, I wasn't
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  Speaker 4: interested in promoting it. So you know, it's like, I
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  Speaker 4: literally do not know where the sins I protest is,
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  Speaker 4: but if I did know, part of me would be
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  Speaker 4: reluctant to even say it out loud. Bobby, you plan
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  Speaker 4: it on showing up.
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  Speaker 5: Joe said, there wasn't anything going on now Cole rain,
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  Speaker 5: but since it was supposed to rain, I thought they
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  Speaker 5: may have some indoor activities or something. Yeah, there's a
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  Speaker 5: lot of malls that are vacant.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there's space.
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  Speaker 4: Available, Gotta have that air conditioning, got to be in comfort,
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  Speaker 4: find a controlled environment. Right.
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  Speaker 5: Well, God bless them all, you know, God bless them
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  Speaker 5: all Saturday. And maybe the chief ex chief. You know,
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  Speaker 5: she's falling on the stoard for the mayor, so perhaps
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  Speaker 5: it's something that she's falling on the swords.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you go, she hasn't been fired yet, operative word yet.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody's heads got a roll and they have mayor have
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  Speaker 4: to have Purvoal is certainly not going to allow his
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  Speaker 4: head to be the sacrificial head. Before we get to
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  Speaker 4: the election. Maybe the voters will see it differently, Bobby,
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  Speaker 4: what do you.
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  Speaker 5: Think her tenure is questionable?
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  Speaker 4: Well, and going back to ken Kober's point on that
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  Speaker 4: used to be that the police themselves were deciding who
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  Speaker 4: their chief would be. They could choose from among their
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  Speaker 4: own ranks. They are more familiar with who has the
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  Speaker 4: competence to run the police department and to whom they
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  Speaker 4: want to be accountable. Now, the mayor and the city
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  Speaker 4: manager are alone selected, making it an extraordinary political position.
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  Speaker 4: So you're subject to the whim of probably just one person,
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  Speaker 4: the mayor or maybe the city manager, but collectively it's
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be the mayor and the city manager. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think Ken is right on that maybe we go
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  Speaker 4: back to the old ways, and that's actually one of
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  Speaker 4: the things that's been reported. That was one of his suggestions.
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  Speaker 4: Repeal issue five. So the police chief isn't under the
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  Speaker 4: thumb of an elected official, he said out loud. So
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  Speaker 4: there you have it. Good to hear from me. As always, Bobby,
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  Speaker 4: stay safe, have a great weekend, and enjoy the no
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  Speaker 4: Kings protest if you can figure out where it is.
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  Speaker 4: Have to comment on this just because I and I
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  Speaker 4: admit to I will call Donald Trump out when I
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  Speaker 4: think he's exceeding his authority and to yesterday, he's kind
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  Speaker 4: of alarming from my standpoint because I personally don't believe
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  Speaker 4: in unilateral decisions by elected officials to launch rockets and
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  Speaker 4: blow people up in areas where we have no declaration
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  Speaker 4: of war, in an areas where the individuals being blown up. Notably,
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  Speaker 4: drug dealers in boats who are one thousand miles away
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  Speaker 4: plus don't represent an immediate threat to the United States
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  Speaker 4: of America. Yeah they got drugs, Yes they want to
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  Speaker 4: bring the drugs here, but it's not an immediate threat.
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  Speaker 4: Wait for the Coastguard to pick them up once they're
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  Speaker 4: in US waters. Blah blah blah blah. Right, well, now
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  Speaker 4: Donald Trump is letting it is authorized the CIA to
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  Speaker 4: start carrying out strikes inside Venezuela, strikes on land within
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  Speaker 4: the country done by the CIA. We don't know what
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  Speaker 4: the CIA's budget is, We don't even know what they do.
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  Speaker 4: We just know that that's that secret organization behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be looking out for our best interest and
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  Speaker 4: of course sowing the seeds of political descent around this country,
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  Speaker 4: impacting elections. And of course, many people are arguing that
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  Speaker 4: Donald Trump is trying to kick out Nicholas Maduro by
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  Speaker 4: launching these strikes against the drug boats. Whether or not
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  Speaker 4: he has any success in a completely corrupt land where
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  Speaker 4: you really can't vote or count on your vote being
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  Speaker 4: counted properly, go ahead, draw parallels. Don't know if he's
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  Speaker 4: going to be successful, but I find it problematic that
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  Speaker 4: he's kind of admitted to doing this. He said, we
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  Speaker 4: had number six votes strike twenty seven dead in little
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  Speaker 4: boats down by Venezuela and pursuing to our missile strikes.
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  Speaker 4: Donald Trump yesterday speaking to reporters, we are certainly looking
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  Speaker 4: at land now because we've got the sea under control.
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  Speaker 4: We've had a couple of days now where there isn't
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  Speaker 4: a boat to be found. He was asked about this
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  Speaker 4: New York Times report earlier in the morning yesterday that
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  Speaker 4: said he authorized the CIA to carry out operations inside Venezuela,
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  Speaker 4: including lethal operations. At least according to the New York
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  Speaker 4: Times reporting, I authorized for two reasons, he said. Really.
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  Speaker 4: Number one, they have emptied their prisons into the United
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  Speaker 4: States of America. They came through the border. No argument.
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  Speaker 4: I agree that happened, at least I perceive it to
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  Speaker 4: have happened. Is that does that justify a unilateral decision
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  Speaker 4: to blow up stuff within Venezuela, because my understanding he's
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  Speaker 4: going to blow up the drug cartel operations. Did they
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  Speaker 4: facilitate the emptying out of the prisons or would that
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  Speaker 4: be more of a presidential level decision? Maduro and then
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  Speaker 4: he and I said, a lot of drugs come out
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  Speaker 4: in from Venezuela and a lot of drugs come in
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  Speaker 4: through the sea, but we're going to stop them by land.
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  Speaker 4: Also wow, I speaking of expedient. That may be an
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  Speaker 4: expedient remedy at least for the time being, but I
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  Speaker 4: do not believe it is constitutional five twenty six. Right now,
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  Speaker 4: if you five krcity talk station calls or local stories,
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  Speaker 4: we get to that after these words, fifty five care
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  Speaker 4: you fifty five KRC DE Talk station said, that's why
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  Speaker 4: you give me a number of ed case you want
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  Speaker 4: to call, like Tom and west Side Jim. I got
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  Speaker 4: those guys lined up five on three seven fifty two
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  Speaker 4: three talk one with order in which they received Jim
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  Speaker 4: hold on, Tom, welcome back, my friend.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, good morning. So I'm the opening act for west
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: Side Jim.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you beat him by about You beat him by
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: about thirty five seconds or so.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Uh.
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  Speaker 6: By the way, a gas price update, they're now into
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  Speaker 6: two thirties up here north of town.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: On the sign is two thirty so yeah, so we're
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  Speaker 6: just yeah, well, what we're waiting for is for the uh,
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  Speaker 6: all the other prices that are affected by fuel prices
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  Speaker 6: to start dropping. Uh, like they went up because of
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: fuel prices. At least that was a contributing factor. So
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: we're hoping that uh pretty soon here these uh retail
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  Speaker 6: chains and all these people dealing with the supply chain
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: and now that their fuel costs are coming down and
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: they'll start bringing their prices down something.
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  Speaker 4: And we can only that's the case.
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  Speaker 6: We can only hope.
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  Speaker 4: My wait for a comment was in connection with the
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: last time you had commented about the changing gas prices,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: when it jumped fifty cents in one day, Like, well, why,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Which I know, it's it's crazy, but yeah, that's kind
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  Speaker 6: of why I keep mentioning it, because I'm waiting for
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  Speaker 6: the other sea to drop.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: It usually will well, it will enjoy it.
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  Speaker 6: Last Yeah, exactly exactly. So I did uh listening uh
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  Speaker 6: to uh to l w uh at some point yesterday
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: on the way home, and I heard Joe Dieters on
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: the on the radio, uh with his buddy Willie, and
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: uh that Joe Diaters made a comment you can only
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: say so much justice Joseph Deeaters man.
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  Speaker 2: We miss him.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: Around here, don't we.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, he made a comment that the people down who's
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: talking about the violence downtown and the crime and all that.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: And he said, and he said, these people are not stupid.
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: They know what needs to be done, they're just not willing.
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  Speaker 2: To do it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: And I think that's a very profound statement. I think
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: I think we can all agree with that. That is
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: one man's opinion. Yes, agreed. I'm not saying that because
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: Joe Dieters said it is absolute fact, but I think
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: we can agree with you agree with that, and you're you're, uh,
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: who I forget who you quoted?
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: Somebody said something about when the when the pain of
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: change is greater than the pain of saying the.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Same from the see of Jeff Ruby's restaurant.
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  Speaker 6: Right, Yeah. I mean, look, we we all have decisions
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  Speaker 6: to make and we get sometimes put in a position
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  Speaker 6: because of negative stuff, consequences, whatever. We got to make
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: a decision and something maybe we don't want to do,
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: we never thought we would have to do, but you know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: these these situations are staring us in the face and
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: we got to do it. And you know, sometimes it
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: has to be done. So uh, to uh, to follow
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: up yesterday's phone call, uh, and to respond to Mississippi
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: James my my perspective on this. First of all, I
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: agree we should be considering the perspective and circumstances of
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: people involved in whatever's going on. It's something someone you're
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: having a conversation with, somebody in a story, Hey, think
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: about what they're going through, trying the best you can
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: to put your put yourself in their shoes, all that stuff.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: I guess I wholeheartedly agree. But while we're considering each
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: other's perspective, we need we need to all being agreement
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: in agreement on the same basic set of rules. We
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: should all there's some civility that we all have to maintain.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: That's why, you know, the best kind of discourse is
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: a civil discourse. We have to stay on topic, we
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: have to keep our goal. We have to not go
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: off on some kind of a tantrum on something that
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: has nothing to do with what we're talking about, just
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: to mask over whatever it is we have said or
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: whatever we're accused of doing. And so, yeah, I would
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: love to have some kind of thing where we can
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: sit down and talk. But short of that, we have
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: the ability to get on here and speak our mind
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: and give our opinions, and we we it's great. I
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: think it's a very healthy thing to be able to do.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: And I encourage people to listen to this and programs
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: like this and and so that we can hear what
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: other people have to say. And we talked about this before.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: One of the best parts of this is hearing other
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: people's opinions, not just saying what I have to say
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: and hanging you up and turn the radio off. But
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: I like to hear what other people have to say.
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: I appreciate the responses. Thank you very much for listening.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: Thank you very much for responding. You're engaging. And that's
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: not just Mississippi games that everybody that calls in and
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: that listens, thank you that you're making this is helping.
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: This discourse is helping somewhere somehow. It's helping. And if
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: I can help anymore, I would give everyone the advice
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: don't vote Rhino and don't vote Democrat. Have a great day.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: I always have opportunity to reel it right back into
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: that final point. And I appreciate your comments about the show.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: That's the component of the show that I enjoy so much,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: because who am I a man with an opinion, a
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: guy with a sphincter like everybody else. It's a good
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: point James makes all the time. Put yourself or try
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: to put yourself for another person's shoes, you know. And
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: as we look forward to this election in downtown Cincinnati,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: I don't vote in the city. I don't live in
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: the city. I don't experience the situations that go on
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: in the city. I don't I'm not faced with the
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: level of crime in my neighborhood that the City of
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Cincinnati residents are faced with. I certainly can try to
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: put myself in the position as someone who has to
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: deal with that kind of thing all day long, and
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: the solution does seem a little obvious to me. Five
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: point thirty five Right now, Jim, your next or New Hampshire.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Gary's also on the line. I got two calls. I'm
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: looking forward to having a conversation with it.
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  Speaker 1: Be right back fifty five KARC the talk station, the
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  Speaker 1: talk station.
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  Speaker 4: By thirty eight fifty five KRCE the talk station. Half
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  Speaker 4: E FRIDAYE. You gonna go directly to the phone. It's
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: got a few callers lined up this morning, which I
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: just absolutely love. Five one three seven, four fifty eight
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  Speaker 4: eight two three talk found five fifty on aight and
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: t phones. Wes Saie, Jim, appreciate the info you passed
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: along yesterday, which I will let you pass along to
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: my listening audience. We've got the first statistic from the
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Board of Election, Sherry Poland, who does have a lot
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: of experience two decades worth about what her guess is
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: on the voter turnout. Jim, always good to hear from me.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: And how did you receive the debate last night? Welcome?
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Well, first of.
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: All, I'll get the Sherry pulling out of the way, Brian.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: That's an easy one.
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  Speaker 8: She was predicting between twenty three and twenty six percent
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: in the city.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Right, not the county. And you specifically counting issues you
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: asked them for only the city. Her projection on city numbers.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: So your vote is worth a lot if you choose
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: to vote in the election.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Which I hope is correct.
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: We don't want to see this thing milk down by
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: the Democrats and make it like thirty five.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: So that's what would happen if if we got up
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: that high.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, if they you know what, Jim, if they
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: chose to have their no Kings nationwide progress protests on
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: election day and they chose the oh, I don't know.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: Maybe Board of Elections as the venue for that, then
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: maybe they could get a lot more voters than they
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: otherwise would not to provide them.
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: Way be a total zoo in parking out there, and
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: I've got to work that day out there.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I don't want nothing to do with that.
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: Before I get into that thea I'll make this early
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: quick on Britney Ruby. You know, people are making this
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: out to be that she came out.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: And it's a rent issue. It's not a rent issue.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: No, it's not.
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: That's a minor issue. But she explained the fact that
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: there's no security.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: That's sorry. That's the beef. She said it in the statement.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: It was the security at the front door. They're worried
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: about their employees and the town properties I think is
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: the name of the company that owns it that they're
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: having a dispute with. They were disputing over security. They
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: won't place the guard to the front door. They won't
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: provide the necessary security perceived needed by the Ruby group.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: So there it is. I don't think it was over rent,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: it was over security.
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: They tried to make an issue in one of the
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: news stations that it was over a rent issue, but
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: I was in that office up there, because the Republican
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: office was one floor up and when you took the
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: elevator there was absolutely no security and it was no
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: key card. Seems that she was exactly right on telling this,
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: but their the town properties are going to come out
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: and say, well, it was.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Over a rent issue. That's all bull So that's this,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: And then she got into the fact.
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: Of crime and that she was downtown on one of
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: these happenings and that is why they're thinking about moving that.
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: It's a palacious office up there, and I know Jeff
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: Ruby doesn't want to spend the money to move, but
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: now he has to. And I'm hoping that the restaurant
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: isn't next, because that is the number one restaurant in
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: downtown Cincinnati, a bar all.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens on that.
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: Now the debate, Now, if anybody watched that and didn't
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: know Purvall before this, he's a bully, and Corey is
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: very statesmanlike and diplomatic, and he got a couple of
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: jabs in. But Corey is not the meaning that Purvall is,
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: and Purvoll saying Cory this and Cory that, and he
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: was not qualified and he doesn't know what he's talking
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: about and things like this.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: That's the Purvall. He tried to be nice, but Purball
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: isn't nice. He has to get his he has to
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: get his digs in.
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: And if anybody didn't see that, you should hit the
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: DVR and you should go back and watch that thing
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: because it was absolutely terrible the way he treats people.
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: And he treated people like that in the clerk's office.
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: I knew people in the clerk's office down and when
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: he was there, and he was horrible. And that's why
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: a lot of them either quit when they stuck it
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: out because of the fact of retirement. And then as
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: soon as soon as retirement age came up, it's kind
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: of like.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: A drop with the police. They got out.
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: And you know, I saw the pure Ball that I
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: know last night, and Corey Uh, I thought he did
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: a decent job.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I wish the Ruby thing would it came up with.
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: When Purvall said about the fact that business is coming
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: downtown and everything is jumping and everything is great.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: And all this kind of stuff, did he did he
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: cite any specific examples of businesses that are coming downtown
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: on Moss No, no, I don't think so. Yeah, I did.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: I knew the answer to that question before asking you.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Absolutely no.
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: And he ain't talking about the ones over leaving, the
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: big corporations and so forth.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: On his watch. Yeah, And you know, it's just sure.
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: He talked about the housing coming in and I just
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: don't understand where you're coming up with the fact of
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: forty thousand housing opportunities coming up in the next four years.
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: Forty thousand Are you kidding me?
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: They can't get a lane mile get his number, They
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: can't get a lane mile paved. How they're gonna bill
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: forty thousand units? Yeah?
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: And then that that was one of the focal points
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: last night was the paving, and Corey got him on
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: that one where he came out and he said, well,
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: you've had four years to do this. Why is it
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: during the election year and all of a sudden you're
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: bringing all this up. Everybody knows that it wouldn't even
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: have to be explained. He's doing it because he wants
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: votes and he's acting like he's getting something done. No,
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: Sunset was not brought up. It would have been funny
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: if Corey would have said, well you should drive up
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: on down Sunset anyone talk about it. But you know,
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: the one thing I want to mention about your show, Brian,
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: and I'll let you go. Your show is nothing like
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: w l W W l W if you like to
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: listen to commercials and you like, you like, and this
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: is a dig on him. It is totally commercial, not free.
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: And sure you've got you've got bills to pay, and
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: you do have commercials on air. But your show, like
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: Tom says, it takes people, and the people to call
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: in keep the show rolling when you cut in wl
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: W IF cutting him takes three calls a day, which
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: most of the time that's a lot. That's that's pretty
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: much the end of it. And he's a bully. He's
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: just mother bunch bully as purball in it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: But I'm sorry, I'm just and I doubt listening to
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: the show right now.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: He don't listen to anything. You don't even listen to
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: his own my god.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: But well, you know, I appreciate that, and I like
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: to just acknowledge I'm self deprecating enough to know that
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm not the answer. I think I have
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: the right direction, and I try to explain why I
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: believe that, because I believe the power of your life
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: should be directed by you. I mean, that's why. But
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: I'm happy to provide the avenue. And that's why I
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: really appreciate callers calling in because you know what, you
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: guys may be thinking about something along a different line
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: than me. You're there to enlighten me or maybe bring
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: a topic or a point up that I haven't specifically
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: brought up to, you know, to Mississippi James kind of comment.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: You know you didn't mention this, Well, it's because it
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: wasn't on my mind to mention. It's not because I
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: intentionally excluded something. That's what you're for, and that's why
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: God love each and every one of you. I got
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: the best audience in radio, there is no question about it,
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: and you're one of the reasons. West Side Jim Kiefer,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: and thank you for all your little inside scoop information
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: that you passed along. You're my favorite little bird out
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: in the word, out in the world.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Last week, last week, Brian, last week.
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: If I can say, that was too short of an
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: interview last night on Channel twelve. They had to try
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: to jam everything into a half an hour and it
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: just wasn't enough time. But I understand that's prime time.
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: So at least Corey got out there and people got
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: the scene that usually to watch the news.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Check it out online. It should be really easy to find.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: Appreciate your call west Side Jim as always flying six
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: right now, New Hampshire. Gary, your next thing, Hey.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I got two things. You can incorporate some of your
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: products you with your advertisement with your show. You can
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: always peat.
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: The capital of Columbus with some rhino shield and if
• 32:44
  Speaker 9: that didn't work, you could always use O directit.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Gary, thanks very much, and prose for
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: supporting the sponsors. Jay, thanks for calling in again. Jay.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: It's always good to hear from you. Oh Jay, real quick,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: you have a reading assignment, Gay, go to zero hedge
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: dot com. There's an article there that's we reposted from
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: the Epoch or Epic Times regardless by Molly Engelhardt headline
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: when do we truly own anything? The property tax scheme
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: that keeps us paying forever? I thought about you the
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: minute I read that. So anyhow, reading assignment.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it sounds good. Hey, just want to give
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: you an update.
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: We're up to seventy five billion dollars in savings with
• 33:28
  Speaker 10: this government shut down, and I kind of thought about,
• 33:31
  Speaker 10: what could we do with that money? Minus the twenty
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: billion that was given to Argentina by Trump gets us
• 33:36
  Speaker 10: down to fifty five billion dollars saved. So I thought
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: about what else could we do with that money? With
• 33:42
  Speaker 10: fifty five billion, we could actually fund the Department of
• 33:46
  Speaker 10: Education for three months, and the twenty billion that was
• 33:49
  Speaker 10: given to Argentina, that could actually fund one year of
• 33:53
  Speaker 10: Ohio Medicaid fraud. So it's you know, you put it
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: in that perspective, A fifty billion dollars would only fund
• 34:02
  Speaker 10: one Department of Education for three months. So people need
• 34:08
  Speaker 10: to think about we could go back in time. Would
• 34:11
  Speaker 10: you rather have the government fully funded and operational for
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: these past two weeks with an approble rating of like
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: twenty seven percent? Or would you rather have seventy five
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: billion dollars going towards the national debt? We don't need
• 34:24
  Speaker 10: more government. Nobody's suffering, Everybody relaxed. And to your point,
• 34:30
  Speaker 10: why back to property tax? What does this government ever do?
• 34:34
  Speaker 10: Why are we paying rent to somebody who never took
• 34:37
  Speaker 10: any risks, didn't build your house, didn't develop your property,
• 34:41
  Speaker 10: doesn't have any risk or a dime invested, and make
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: no mistake, that's your landlord that you're going to continue
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: to pay till the day you die for having done zero.
• 34:51
  Speaker 10: So we'll get out before the end of this month
• 34:53
  Speaker 10: is when over the petitions have to be in. So
• 34:55
  Speaker 10: if you haven't done it yet, get moving. Take some
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: neighbors with you. I I finally got moving. I think
• 35:01
  Speaker 10: I got fifteen to twenty signatures just by walking around
• 35:05
  Speaker 10: the neighborhood when I finally decided times up.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Time to take time to get moving.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: So people aren't aware. So hurry up, get busy. Whatever
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  Speaker 3: you do.
• 35:13
  Speaker 10: Don't vote Rhino, don't vote Democrat.
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  Speaker 3: Have a good day, Bryan.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Thanks Jay, and another reading assignment for everybody with regard
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: to the government shutdown today article by Daniel Huff and
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: the opinion segment of the Wall Street Journal. Government shutdown No.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: An efficiency audit based on data from past closing is
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: roughly twenty five percent of the federal workforce, of course,
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: could be permanently cut. Good number crunching on that one.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Looking at pass shutdowns, a number of people who lost
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: their jobs, who were furloughed, and really the impact on
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: that at least in so far as how you and
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: I experienced it, and I am with Dan that Yeah,
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: I do believe twenty five percent of the work or
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: force could be permanently cut, resulting in a significant decrease
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: in our spending in government. Say okay with me, stick around.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Dan Hill's former FOP chief, going to be talking about
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: is the police chief? He said, Thiji going to be
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: forced to resign and get some details on that. Top
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: of the Air News follow by Dan Hills at six
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: thirty and Congressman Warren Davidson returned at seven oh five.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Other guests including Andre Ewing, Liz Keating, and Jay Ratliffe
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: on the program as well this morning. I hope you
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: can stick around. It'll be right back. Today's tough headlines
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: coming up. You're a fig about Karise de Talk Station
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Brian Thomas right now, wish in every potty happy Thursday's
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: last Friday Eve looking forward to the bottom of the hour,
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: Dan Hills, former FOP president, are the outstanding swirling controversy
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: about police chief Threesid Thiji being hauled into the Principal's
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: office yesterday. City Manager Cheryl Lung said that yes, the
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: chief was asked to return to the city immediately to
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: immediately address departmental matters, but they did not fire her,
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: although it does appear as if they're heading in that direction,
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: blaming the chief of police for perhaps failures of the administration.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Congressman Warren Davidson in one hour on the shutdown the
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: Israeli Hamas peace deal, question mark piece deal. I know
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: things that are not going real smoothly within Gaza. We'll
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: get to Congressman Davidson in an hour, follow by Andre
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: You and Andre. Brother Dre Hurst Breaker's three hundred an
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: outspoken observer of the craziness going on in downtown Cincinnati.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: I strongly encourage you to follow Brother Dre on Facebook.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: He's going to be back at seven point thirty and Dre,
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: if you're out there listening. Man, Sorry, I couldn't get
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: back to your phone call last night, but I was
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: really excited to learn you're going to be on the
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: show today when I woke up this morning. Liz Keating
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: running for sinc A City Council. How's a campaign going?
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Get her thoughts on the, of course, local topics, including
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: her position on the police chief. Jay Ratliffe Media, I
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: heard me the aviation expert every Thursday. The thirty today,
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: not deviating from the norm. Looking forward to Jay as
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: I always do, and I always love talking to former
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati running for Cincinna
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: City Council. You have a choice. Let's go a different direction.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Let's vote smith Aman back into office. Welcome Christopher Smithman.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: It's a pleasure hearing from me this morning.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Hey, thank you, Brian. I just want to spend a
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: few minutes kind of weighing in, and I might have
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: a different perspective than others about what I see happening.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: I see the police chief being used as a scapegoat
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: right before an election, and it's really troublesome to me.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: And I've been talking about issue five and what I
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: think the shortcomings are with issue five.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: All right, real quick, Chris, Christopher, remind my listeners what
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: issue five is. This came up in our conversation I
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: had with Ken Kober earlier, and I had forgotten the
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: way things used to be versus how they are now,
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: which means the I guess the mayor and the city
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: manager are solely responsible for determining who the police chief is,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: selecting that person and firing the chief.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: That's correct and what used to happen is you know
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: when Striker Chief Striker was the last chief under the
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: old system, which had its pluses and minuses, But the
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: reality was you knew who the police chief was, and
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: the police chief made the decisions, the best decisions for
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: the department, and without fear of termination. And so what's
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: happening now is this to me is like the loophole
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: here that is personality driven. The issue five is as
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: good as the mayor is and as good as the
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: city manager is. And so what I see here now,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: and I'm letting you know publicly that I don't think
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: the police chief nor the fire chief should be terminated
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: without the consent of city council. I think seven members
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: of council should have to weigh in on the termination
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: of what I would say the most important job, our
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: fire chief and our police chief. And so what you
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: see here is right before an election, a mayor in
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: panic mode, a mayor trying to figure out what he
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: needs to do politically and willing to destroy somebody else's career. Now,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: let's give a context here, right well, first, Fiji Chief
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Fiji has given a life to the Cincinnati Police Department,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: and she is from the Nevill family. She's a Neville,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: and the Nevill family has given so much as police
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: officers to the City of Cincinnati. So let's make sure
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: that we put her in the right context and that
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: we at least what I want to do is if
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: she decides to leave, resign, or she's fired, that is
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: done with dignity. All of this is not on her,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: because what I've seen the mayor do is send all
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: kinds of different messages. One of those that's the hiring
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: of Irish ROWLEI in this consulted position, and nobody quite
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: knows what she's doing and what kind of pressure she's
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: putting on the chief. What we do know is that
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: the city manager has really empowered her in a way
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: that I've never seen before. We have a chair of
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: law in Public Safety. That's Scottie Johnson. He's elected, he goes,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: his name is on the ballot. That's the person that
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: is providing the civilian oversight, not Irish Rolely, a consultant.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: And it seems like the lines are being blurred here
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: for me, and I think they were blurred for the
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: chiefs on who is actually who should she be listening
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: to and what is the direction now ultimately to the public,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: our our our police chief is ultimately responsible for those decisions.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I just want everybody to know that this is part
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: of the chaos that I think is a problem, because
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: if the police chief had to come before council right now,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they could get seven votes to
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: fire her, and definitely fire her right before an election
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: on November fourth. That's the rub for me. It's the
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: it's the timing of this public it's the time timing
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: of it, Brian Thomas, that we should all be concerned about.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: Well, and I'm glad you brought up that the full
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: council having a say in this point, because I was
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: going to counter your suggestion. How can we expect things
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: to be different if all the counselor are the same party.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: You've got, you know, a Democrat mayor and who I
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: presume has a tremendous amount of sway over the individual
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: Democrat council members. How much maybe that would come down
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: to how they would ultimately vote on firing or not
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: firing the police chief. But as it is right now,
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: I think they probably would all vote if the mayor
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: wanted to fire the chief and the city manager wanted
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: to fire the chief, they probably would all follow lead
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: and do so along the same lines.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Well, I think you are, you think you're right about that.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: But here's the difference. You've got the FLP President Kober
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: who's coming on, and he has people that they have supported,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: they've endorsed. So I would think that the FLP would
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: be able to go to those members of council and say, listen,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: here are our thoughts on what you should do, and
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: those things would be taken under consideration. They wouldn't be
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: done outside of the electeds, who the people have put
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: there to provide oversight for police and fire.
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  Speaker 2: I just think there should be an.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Extra step here, and particularly Brian the timing of this.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: We had a shooting off Fountain Square, we had a
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: shooting on Fountain Square. We've had shooting in Westwood, all
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: over the city, you know, and the mayor is under
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: tremendous pressure here because he didn't have a plan at
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: the beginning of the summer. I've had many opportunities to
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: talk to the Governor's office about when they came and
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: made the first offer, which was somewhere in May of
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: this year, and the mayor continue to turn down those
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: offers from the governor. Right, so he had played a role.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: He has made the decision. Why is the governor's office
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: only doing two times a month?
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: Now it's four now apparently the signal ninety nine and
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: I again recommend people follow signal ninety nine on Facebook.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: She does a great job, but pointed out, well, I
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: guess the mayor has just recently decided we're going to
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: take four days to deal with a twenty four hour days,
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: seven day week problem.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: I'm trying, I'm trying not to laugh at such a
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: serious matter, but it's it's crazy that you would think
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: that the governor is saying, listen, we'll do whatever we
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: can to help you, and the mayor saying I'll only
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: accept four times. But prior to that it was only
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: two times a month. The point that I'm trying to
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: make here is that members of council who are up
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: for reelection, this mayor who is up for reelection, right,
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: they are as responsible for where we are with crime
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: in our fifty two neighborhoods. We just heard one of
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: the biggest restaurants, right, signal I think he's signal and
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Jeff Ruby saying listen, I'm moving my catering part on
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Seventh Street somewhere else. Now, they made a nice flowery statement,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, everybody understands that
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: they're concerned about their employees, their cars coming in and
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: out of that location we had with the taste of
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Belgium in OTR. They said they were moving, but they
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: gave some flowery, you know, pressure release and excuses why
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: they were leaving. At the end of the day, it's
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: coming down to crime. People are concerned about their cars,
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: their well being, their quality of life as they are
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: interacting in the downtown area. And you and I and
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: so many people have been raising concerns about the escalation
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: of this. This mayor had said, it's his perception, it's
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: our perception that crime is down. Nobody believes that, Brian Thomas,
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: and so if it's our perception, meaning if he's saying
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: crime is down, think about what I'm about to say here.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: You're saying the chief is doing a good job. That's
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: been your message to the entire campaign. Then why are
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: you pushing to fire the police chief. Listen, I can
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: end on that note, Yes you can. If that's a
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: narrative that, hey man, this police chief has been doing
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: a great job. That crime is down. It is all
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: of our perception, right, not our reality. Then please explain
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: to me why in the world would there be a
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: need to fire the police chief.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: Drop the mic right there. This is a profound.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a scapegoat from this mayor to try
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: to change the narrative that he's doing something or that
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: this counsel is doing something. And all I will tell
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: all all of our fifty two neighborhoods, we have an
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: opportunity to do something different. You're the jury out there.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: You have to make the decision, and I would say,
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: elects four or five new members of council that can
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: bring balance to this city and can move the needle
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: in the area of safety and making sure that we
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: are able to bring crime down with a plan. And
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: it includes accepting help from our partners like the governor
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: or the sheriff or whoever would like to weigh in
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: out in there. Brian, thank you so much. I don't
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: put this all at the head of this chief. I
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: think it's easy to do that. If she does leave
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: the position, and she's hearing my voice right now, I
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: want her to know that she's done a great service
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: to the City of Cincinnati, just like Chief Washington did.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: They fired Chief Washington. Most people don't know the fire
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: chief was fired and that he has won his lawsuit.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: He's won the appeal.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: He may be back. I gotta run, Christopher or out
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: of time man, God bless you, my friend. Six seventeen
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: vote Smithman Galaxy Concrete Codings Dot DE talk station six
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: if you have KERCD talk station looking forward to Dan
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: Hill's former FOP president with his former FOP president had on.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Is the chief being forced to resign? Swirling rumors about
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: that she was called back from her out of town meeting,
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: and so far the comments from the mayor's office are
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: that know she's not being fired, city manager saying that,
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: but does look like she's on thin ice. And I've
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: been singing the praises a Signal ninety nine. Recommend you
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: follow her on Facebook and she's she gave the recitation
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: of this into very clear summary of where we were
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: going back to Christopher Smithman's comments earlier in the year
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: to where we are now, which seems to be a
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: mayor in desperation mode. She's right, the people of since
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: I deserve the truth, not the political theater that has
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: defined city halls, handling a violent crime in downtown as
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: well as all over the city. In July, when casts
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: are upted a main national news the mayor and his
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: allies dismissed the outrageous hysteria. They stood before the cameras
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: clutching their pearls, insisting that the city of Cincinnati was safe,
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: while footage of assaults, open air fights, and chaos told
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: a very different story. Governor Mike Dewaine extended an unprecedented
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: offer the full resources of the state to help restore order,
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: highway patrol, investigative support, technology assets, tools that could have
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: given the CPD the breathing room it desperately needed. Instead
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: of welcoming that help, city leaders arrogantly declined it. They
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: wanted to protect their political narrative, not their citizens. By August,
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: the pressure is too heavy to ignore, the administration quietly
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: allowed a high state patrol to handle traffic enforcement, claiming
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: it would free CPD to answer critical calls. It sounded
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: like progress, but it was a partial, face saving compromise.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: The quote full package close quote was still off the
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: table because it would expose the depth of the crisis.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: The city has worked so hard to downplay. In September,
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: they relented again, finally announcing they would accept the governor help.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: What they didn't tell you was it really for two
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: days a month two Then this month they stretched it
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: to four, four days out of thirty four days to
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: fight a twenty four to seven problem. Mayor stated that
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: over the exaggerated violence in our city was more of
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: a perception than a reality. Even worse, the mayor and
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: city Council forced the Governor's office, you're gonna love this one.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: I did not know this, and I trust signaled ninety
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: nine at her words, forced the Governor's office and multiple
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: state agencies to sit through a lecture from Iris Rowley,
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: the self opponented authority on the Collaborative Agreement, Roly, who
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: is not the director of the agreement because there is
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: no director, dictated what troopers and agents could and could
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: not do in Cincinnati, as if she held legal jurisdiction
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: over them. The Governor's office, trying to help, was forced
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: to tolerate this circus to avoid political backlash from city Hall.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: It was humiliating, not for them, but for us, for
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: this city. Has now turned to his next political scapegoat
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: police Chief Theresa Thiji, after being ordered to juggle impossible directives,
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: appease political activists, keep crime's stats control, and protect confidence
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: amid chaos, the chief is being positioned for sacrifice. It's
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: the same cynical script blame the police when the politics collapse.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: What City Cincinnati is witnessing isn't leadership, it's manipulation. Public
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: safety is being bartered for headlines. The mayor's office continues
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: to mislead the public, minimize the scale of the state's assistance,
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: and allow unelected consultants to hold sway over law enforcement.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: The collaborative Agreement was never meant to become a political
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: weapon or a personal platform for self promotion. Yet here
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: we are watching a city and crisis defer to a
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: consultant while the governor's troopers stand down because Iris Roley
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: said so. Four days of help per month isn't a plan,
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: it's a pr stunt. And as the mayor scrambles to
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: protect his re election campaign by three growing Chiefdiji under
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: the bus, one truth remains clear. The violence continues, the
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: spin intensifies, and the people of Cincinnati are left to
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: fend for themselves while city Hall hides bodence talking points.
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: Signal ninety nine concludes, vote this mayor and city council
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: out of office next month, and the rest of the
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: trash will take care of itself, will take itself out.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: We can start to heal as a city, clean up
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: our city and its neighborhoods. Utilize the federal courts to
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: start holding these violent criminals accountable, since so many of
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: our own county judges will not. It's just time. That's
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: the kind of thing you get from her all the time.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: So if you're out there, signal, I appreciate your words.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: I appreciate you standing on top of things. You are
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: a refreshing voice out there. Stick around. We're gonna hit
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: you fridaye to you. Starting off with the guests right now,
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: although I always consider callers guests as well. You're welcome
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: to call, but not right now because Dan Hills returns
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: former FOP president Dan Hills, putting his old FOP kind
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: of hat back on and giving us an analysis of
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: the lay of the landscape of the since a police
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: department relative to law enforcement downtown and will Chief Fiji
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: be fired? Sure sounded like it was going to happen yesterday.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: Welcome back, Dan Hills. It's great having you on the show.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: All Brian, it's good to be back. I hope you're well.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: Hope your health as well.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing really well. I appreciate you asking about that.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Now, yes, sure, it looked like
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: calling Fiji back into town from her police chief conference
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: looked like the writing was on the wall, although there
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: was what I would call backpedaling if they had made
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: the decision to fire her. It has not happened yet,
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: But do you get the impression that Fiji's on thin
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: ice and it's just the shoe just hasn't dropped yet.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's obviously the thing bring her back
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: from Denver, which you know in something I have commentary
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: rights here, you know. I don't think going out of
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: town to a chief conference during this time of increased
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: scrutiny and the violence on the streets and all that
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: thing was probably the best the best picture to present
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: of the police department or her leadership.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Well better that than well watching while the city burns.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: And it was I don't think it was a good idea.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I didn't know where you were going to go.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: If you just ask me, my opinion of the.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: Chiefs or well, that's a separate here.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: You're the host, I'll no, no.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: No, I think that's a completely separate issue, and it's
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: a worthy issue to address because you know, you still
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: stay in touch with active members since a law enforcement
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: I bet you have a pretty good idea about their
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: perception of whether Police Chief three Strategi's doing a good
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: job or not. I've had people tell me one way
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: or another, and I have my own perceptions along those lines.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: But that's why we have you on the show. So
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: how she fares among the ranks is one thing. And
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: if we had the old system before this, you know,
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: issue five thing, the rank and file would decide whether
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: or not they wanted to cling to her correct.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, And I you know, issue five is a discussion
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: of its own And I was. I was, and to
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: Christopher Smotherman on there, and let's hope to god he
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: gets elected and Steve Gooden gets elected and there is
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: some change in some change of thought down at city Hall.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: But that's what I guess I wanted to say about
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: the chief in my opinion, that she's more of a
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: symptom of a problem in a sense than the problem.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: I think she's done a better job than I expected.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: I don't make any secrets about it. I was not
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: supporting her. I was still the president when she got appointed.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: I was pulling for Lisa Davis. And I was only
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: pulling for Lisa Davis because I was listening. I want
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: to say only, but I was mostly pulling for Lisa
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Davis because that's what my cops are telling me. So
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: it was like, this is an easy one. I got
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: all these cops call me and saying, yeah, can you
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: get can you get anything done? And I remember being
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: disappointed in city at city Hall, namely Cheryl Long, because
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: she went on this last second tour of talking to
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: the cops when I knew she had already decided. I
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: had a good source inside city Hall that said she
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: had ready to but then she heard the controversy that
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: was out there. I was putting it out there that
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: the cops far preferred Lisa Davis, who went on to
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: UH to be the chief in Austin, Texas.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: But just so I'm not.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: Here, you know, celebrating this trouble rating.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: I think that.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Terry has done a better job than what I had expected.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Hansom downside, I guess anybody would and and and it's
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: easy to sit outside and be a critic and throw darts.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: But you know again, I think the reason she got
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: the job as part of the the symptom of the disease,
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: and and that is you're far left activism within city
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Hall to the point where they hire somebody like Irish Rolli,
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: which we could talk about we will rest the show
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: right well, so you know, and so you hire somebody
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: like uh Terry Tigi who had gone in there and
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: willing to it down and and and play with Irish Rely.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine uh uh back in the day you
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: mentioned Striker or Smitherman mentioned Striker, that's the last guy
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: in their old system. Would he have would he have
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: paid attention to her or cared what she said?
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Ever?
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Hell only to criticize there is the only time he
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: would have spoke up in his mind. And even under
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: their new system of hiring and and and and keeping chiefs.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine if James Craig would have.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Had a deal with Iris Rely, you would have he
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: would have come.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Out publicly and and uh and condemned her for the
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: dingaling that she is. So you know, you put somebody
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: into place and part of her marching orders and part
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: of what I assume I said, I don't know this
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: for a fact. Part of what she agreed to to
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: to get the appointment was that she would she would
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: play along with Iris and all that silliness that that
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: that goes on with that.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: So you're illustrating the political reality that that job became
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: once the city manager and the mayor had the sole
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: power to hire and fire, then they really are at
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: the whim of the directive of the city manager and mayor.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: If you don't follow my directive, you're going to lose
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: your job. So let's hold I'm just going to stop there.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: That's my thought. We'll let you respond and we will
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: bring up virus role among other topics with Dan Hill's
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: former FOP president right let talk Station six on a
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: Thursday Bright timeAs with former FOP president Dan Hill talking
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: about the situation going in downtown Cincaia. He looks like
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: the chief TG's job me Figi's job may be on
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: the line, sort of speculation, wondering about back and forth.
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: Of course, exclusive control over her position held by mayor
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: Aftab Purvol and Sherry Long didn't used to be that way.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: But now we have the involvement and that you mentioned
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: Iris Roli before and I wanted to see if you
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: have confirmation on something I read from our friend Signal
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: ninety nine. I think she is at least a former,
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: if not current, police officer, but she's always standing up
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: on these issues. So follow her on Facebook. She said,
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: with regard to the Governor's office and him providing the
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: state agency resources that Mayor aftab Purvol took a little
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: bit of she gave them a lecture, and I just
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: I can read the quote here even worst Mayrin City
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: Council force the Governor's office, multiple state agencies to sit
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: through a lecture from Iris Rowley fast forward a little bit.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: Not the director of the collaborative agreement because there isn't one,
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: but dictated to the troopers what the agents could and
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: could not do in the city of Cincinnati. Did she
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: really do that? Did she did she speak to all
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: the officers that were coming in from the from the state.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't have confirmation of that, and that
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: might be a little bit of the difference between me
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: and ninety nine. I think that we comment on a
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: lot of the same things, and where you obviously have
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: the same political feelings as those she's got Right now
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: at this stage of my life, she's got more sources
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: than I do, and she's definitely working at her page
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: and stuff harder than I work mine. But I'll say this,
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: it sounds likely to me because that's the way that
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: things work in the city, which brings me around full
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: circle to where do you go next? And I think
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: it to hear Cobra if he was on this morning,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: but I did. I did read this statement that they
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: put out, uh saying that you know that the police
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: chief isn't the problem, which is kind of what I'm
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: doubling down on. But but my thing is, where do
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: you go next? How can you get a quality person
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: in here to be the police chief when you still
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: have Irish Rolli on your payroll?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: And they they I.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Think they actually believe that Irish.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Roly has like a.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Riot button in her den or something that she can
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: push a button and cause a riot, and that's why
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: they bow to her. And I don't think she has
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: that much power. I think the only power she has
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: is the power they give her. So I mean, it's
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: it's insanity on top of insanity. You you have a
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: law and order problem. Do you hire somebody that is
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: an anti law order person to go up to go
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: out and and rile up the masses from time to time?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: And it's it's almost like an alternate reality. It's hard
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: to believe that the city does that, that they hire
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: this lady and that you know, the only reason that
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: I think they could is because again they think that
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: she has the power to uh let loose uh you know,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: all the all the use and cause and cause some
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: sort of commotion. And I don't think I don't think
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: that she has that power. So yes, I can see
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: her speaking to the troopers and stuff. Enough I was
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: the troopers or the commander of the camp the troopers,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: I would I would get all my people up and say,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: let's go we listen to this this malarkey. We're down
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: here to help the city with a crime problem. Not listen, uh,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: not listen to her. So that's the that's the back
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: to the symptom rather than the disease. They they they
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: they only are going to appoint somebody. And I think
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: that's part of what cover statement that I want to
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: double down on us is the chief isn't the problem?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: You know, I can like I said, I can sit
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: there and nitpick a couple of things, and I could
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: also compliment a couple of things. But the problem started
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: because I think she agreed to be their yes person.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: Right, Okay, Okay. Then she got the job for agreeing
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: to be a yes person for a woke pretty much
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: anti police administration, a rethink the police administration, or a
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: defund the police administration. I think Iris Rollie was part
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: of that entire movement. So you, I think, in defending
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: your you're also pointing out a criticism. A strong chief
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: who knows how to conduct law enforcement, how to manage
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: police resources, would stand in defiance to a directive that
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: was counter to what her perception of proper law enforcement is. Okay, Yeah,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: I was appointed by the city manager and mayor. I
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: know they want to go this direction, but I think
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: it's bad for the city for the following reasons. She
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: runs the risk of losing your job for you know,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: rejecting something that they told her. But it would show
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: that she is independent and of thought, of mind, and
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: independent of you know, the direction the police need to go.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: So I think that's true. She's not She's not.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: She's not She's not independent I think she was Chryl
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: Long's girl from the get go. I mean, look, I
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: was pulling for Lisa Davis, somebody that I don't necessarily
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: hang out with politically, shall I say? She is a
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: friend and I and I thought she was a better
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: natural leader. And you know that's and and again, I
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: think I think Terry is a nice person. I think
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: she's very smart and qualified, but she doesn't have that
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: whatever it is that that that certain leaders had that
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: get people to fall where I thought Lisa had more
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: of that. Lisa politically and I are are are our
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: world's apart. But I just thought that she she would
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: be more of that natural leader. And I also think
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: Lisa has stood up to him on some different things
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: that made her not not their pick. And so until
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: you fix the system, and this is where you know,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: like I said, double amount of look over said with
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: issue five, and mister Spiderman said, until double down on
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: the system, change the system, then then then nothing's going
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: to get better. And I don't think you're going to
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: get anybody of any quality, at least not from outside
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: of the agency to come in and an inside I
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: don't know either if they're going to get somebody that's
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: very interested in this because you you either have to
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: compromise yourself or risk risk risk risk what is might
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: might or likely happen to terry.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: Something that this issue five created. It highly politicized the
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: job and tied the hands of the police chief in
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: the city of Cincinnati. Ken, let's stop and we'll bring
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: you back and get a couple of final words on
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: the Dan. I'm sorry, I was thinking that I was
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: looking up my interview with uh with Ken was on
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: the fourteenth. You can go to fifty five KRC dot
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: com check of the podcast that I was searching for
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: that since you brought him up in my conversation earlier
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: in this week one more with kr CB talk station.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: He Riday he ring with Thomas with FOP former FFP
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: president Dan Hills. Dan, obviously, I think everyone can. Everyone
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: can all political stripes can agree that may have to
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: had pur Ball in a reactive mode. Wasn't out getting
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: in front of crime issues. Crimes I guess has started building.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: We've got a societal breakdown problem, regardless of the genesis
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: of it. His answer to it has been only to
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: recently create and enforce the curfew. Now he's extended the
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: hours of the curfew. But the curfew it is what
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: it is. It's only a forced in certain neighborhoods. And
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: I kind of scratched my head and wonder about it.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: There's fifty two neighborhoods in the city. What about the
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: other neighborhoods where the curfew doesn't exist. I know they
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: have crime problems there, but also the idea of putting
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: swat and other police resources on Fountain Square at least
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: at a larger presence until ten pm, I thought all
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: the crap hit the fan. I know it happens during
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: the day, but a lot of the criminal activity takes
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: place after ten pm. So I just wanted your reaction
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: to his most recent reactive efforts to deal with crime.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: But you know, you just you just sat right there.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: Reacting is never as good as being proactive, you know.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: But also, I'm gonna I'm going to say the same
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: thing you've kind of said too, that the country and
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: the big parts of the community are in a speech, spiritual,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: and cultural crisis. I mean, that's that's beyond the mayor's control,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: the chiefs control, and everybody else. It's and and then
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: the next step down is the state doesn't have enough
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: prison space for all the thuggery that needs to go
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: to jail and stay in jail. And I don't know,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: if you know, taxpayers up here in Moren County and
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: everybody else are necessarily going to want end on what
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: it would take to house all the bad guys that
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: we have in this state. And so this, you know,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: there's there's a problem there. The county judges, Oh my gosh,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: you've covered that all the time. And ninety you talked
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: about ninety nine. She likes to she likes to bring
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: up in detail the insanity that you have accounting judges.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: So you have all that, and then so what do
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: you do. You get reactive because there's stuff beyond your
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: control and like to swat the CDRT stuff. All that
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: is doing is Robin Peter to pay Paul. You know,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: most of our SWAT members are CDR Team members. They're
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: all in different assignments, and a whole lot of those
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: assignments are patrol people and districts two, three, and four,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: And so now you're you're bringing them down.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: Well that you.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: Can't be two places at one time, right, and you
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: can only work so much over time, and still be effective.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: So while I agree if I was, if I was
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: the chief, or if Joe Strucker was the chief and
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: I was advising, because I don't want to be your chief,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: but if I were there, I understand wanting to have
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: those central business districts feel and be one hundred percent safe,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: and the best way you can do that is to
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: occupy with an occupy an army.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: If you would.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: Back to the one hundred and fifty to two hundred
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: cops that were short, maybe we even need to reconsider
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: the complement of cops. But that takes us back to
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: who wants to come work here. Been harder to get
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: people to come to a police department a city that
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: hires Irish role And one of my favorite topics in
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: my years there the CCA, which is an anti police organization.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: So we're paying, we're paying tax dollars to have people
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: that go out there and handicap the police department. I
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: don't know how many times I can use the word
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: insane in a single guest appearance on your show, Brian
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: to where you get tire, you got to come up,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: you got to come up with some different terms there, Dan,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: But it's insane. I mean it is insane that to
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: have the CCA and have it operate like it does.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: It's insane to have Irish Roly and have her on
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: the payroll. And so then you end up getting reactive
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: and doing stuff like working people after death to have
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: presence in your central business district that you should have. Anyway,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: if you had the proper number of cops. What's that
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: proper number, I don't know. I would I would say,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: you know, it might be approaching like fourteen hundred cops
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: or something that you would like to have in a
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: city this size with the crime problems that it has
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: and the people that come into here for business and entertainment.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: So you can't just go, oh, look, you know, we're
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: about the same size as you know, Salt Lake City
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: or whatever. I don't know, any think about the size
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: of Salt Lake City if they have a totally different
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: demographic and crime problem and don't have professional teams and
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: all the other stuff.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: We need more cops. You know.
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  Speaker 3: We can't control the spiritual and cultural crisis that's in
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: this country and in our communities. We can't control what's
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: going on as a state. The one thing we can
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: do is we can have more cops. And that's not
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: the chief problem, at least not alone. The city halls
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: problem that they haven't gone out there and been the
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: city that people want to come and work for and
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: then go and get the people that you need to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: have that presence to do the best you can under
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: really bad circumstances here in the country.
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  Speaker 4: Nop've been complaining about the lack of police office for
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: a long time. Pervall even said he wants to increase
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: the compliment. But the big hurdle here is getting the
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: bodies to apply. Whether they're going through an academy class
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: from start or they're a lateral hire. You got to
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: have well the dangling carrots have incentive to fro an
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: officer want to move over here in the city of Cincinnati,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: And you pointed out a number of problems and challenges
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: we all face in that regard. I certainly appreciate Dan
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: Hillsy coming on the program today. It's been a great conversation.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: Keep up the great work, and I knew you and
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: i'd be talking again soon. I hope take care of
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  Speaker 4: my friend.
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  Speaker 3: Looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 4: Brian take care five six fifty six fifty five Krcitytoxication
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  Speaker 4: Congressman Warren seven oh six a bitch five kr cdtalk station.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: Appreciate tuning at the fifty five Parase Morning Show. And
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: I'm glad you're here because listening right now because I
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: have Congressman Warren Davidson return into the program. Got some
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: issues to go over him, don't we. Congressman Davidson, welcome back,
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  Speaker 4: my friend. It's a pleasure having you on the show.
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  Speaker 7: Always an honor, and there's plenty going on. Nice to
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  Speaker 7: talk with you, Brian.
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  Speaker 4: So you're still on recess.
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  Speaker 7: Correct, Well, you know it's hard to call it that.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 7: It's a shutdown. So you know, we're just trying to
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 7: make lemonade out of the lemons that Democrats are handing
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 7: out here. Look, how did we get here? Look, Republicans said, Look,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 7: we haven't agreed to fund the government the way that
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 7: we want to as the majority party. So let's just
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 7: call a truce and we'll pass a continuing resolution the
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 7: funds of the government at status quo levels, which is
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 7: the same thing that Democrats voted for when they had
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 7: the majority in the Senate and controlled the White House,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 7: and it's the same thing they voted for in March
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 7: to keep the government funded for now, So we haven't
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: passed a true Republican funding priority right now. We did
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 7: change mandatory spending and we did, you know, do recisions,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 7: and that's part of what's in their build. They want
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 7: to undo the things that we did with our majority,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 7: and then they want to double down and add new
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 7: spending stuff that they added when they were in the
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 7: majority but got no Republican votes. And as a condition
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 7: of opening the government, they were one and a half
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 7: trillion dollars worth of funding priorities, and they were kind
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 7: enough to list it out in writing. I mean, some
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 7: of the stuff's crazy.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: Well, I couldn't agree with you more. That's the setup
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: for the shutdown, and I you know, ownership of the shutdown.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: I hate this argument who gets blamed for it among
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: the American people. But let me just this. You mentioned
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: we can turn lemonade out of the lemons that we
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: were dealt with here, and one of those things might
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: be firing a bunch of people. And so I have
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: to ask you this because it was just the other
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: day that a federal judge put an injunction on holding
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: these firings, granting a temporary straining order blocking the job cuts,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: saying that the judge herself believes the ad evidence would
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: ultimately show that the cuts are illegal and in access
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: of Donald Trump's authority. So I'm thinking about that, under
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: what circumstance can one of these people be fired? Is
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: it always for cause? Or here's a better question. I
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: look and I see Nessley is slashing sixteen thousand jobs
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: private company. They're slashing it in order to bring about
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: greater efficiency and greater profit. If Donald Trump does that,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: because we have a government that is way too damn big,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: is it a political decision to right size the government
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: get rid of the excess the phrase of the doubling
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: down of efforts by various different agencies within the government
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: that all seem to be working toward the same goal.
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  Speaker 4: Can't this be used as an opportunity to streamline the
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: government for the benefit of the American taxpayer. That's not
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: a political motivation. It's a financial motivation, is it not?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: And look fair enough. You know Democrats might feel like
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 7: an agency that we feel is is it serving its purpose?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: They might agree that.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 7: They might think, oh, this is doing great things. You know,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 7: we created this back in the thirties when FDR was president,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 7: and so it must always exist. And it's like having
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 7: a starting pitch. Sure that, Okay, you've done a nice job,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 7: but we're going down to the bullpen.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: You know, congrats.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 7: You don't have to be mean about it and say, hey,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 7: thanks for your service, but it's time to move on.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 7: And that's the kind of thing that we have with
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 7: a lot of our government structures, things that have served
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 7: their purpose and aren't doing it well. I mean, one
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  Speaker 7: example is of the United Nations. You know, they were
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 7: created in the wake of World War two to promote peace.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 7: They don't do a good job of promoting peace. We're
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 7: funding them within the borders of our own country, and
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 7: what we find they're doing with some of the money
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 7: is giving money to fuel this invasion of our country
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 7: of illegals. Now they want to put on a carbon tax,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 7: all kinds of crazy stuff that they're doing to undermine
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 7: our own sovereignty. You look at the European Union, that
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 7: was also a vision to kind of create peace amongst
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 7: the European countries. They're facilitating an invasion of Europe of
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 7: all these you know migrants, and a lot of them
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 7: are from Muslim countries. You know that none of these
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 7: guys migrate to Muslim countries. They're not like flooding Saudi Arabia.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 7: They're flooding Europe. And look, Europe can do what they
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 7: want to with Europe, but they're asking us to pull
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 7: security for them with NATO, so we're pouring all of
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 7: our dollars over there. And meanwhile you've got people leaving
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 7: the United Kingdom, leaving France, leaving Germany, going to places
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 7: like Hungary to claim asylum so they won't get put
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 7: in jail for posting amme. I mean, it's crazy world
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 7: that we're in right now.
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  Speaker 4: It is, and you know, to that point, in a
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: variety of other points, Europe has drifted into something that
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: we normally reject politically, socialism, you know, at the wide
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: open borders, the disruption of cultural norms and societal norms,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: all that. I guess part of me wants to know
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: why we still consider them allies to a certain degree.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, we're funding their police force. In essence, our
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: American military has provided them defense now since World War Two.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump's taking great steps to force them to actually
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: protect and defend themselves. Help me, help you, basically, says
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump. So I guess this connection with Western Europe.
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  Speaker 4: I don't really think it is what it used to be.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: Congressman Davidson, Well.
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  Speaker 7: Here's the thing. I mean, we used to have bipartisan
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  Speaker 7: kind of view of foreign affairs a lot of times
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 7: in the country. But now Democrats that Democrats are essentially
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 7: the leadership of the European Union. I mean, they have
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 7: the same objectives and they want to do to America
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 7: what they're doing to Europe. And California. I mean, Gavin
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 7: Newsom wants to be our next president, and you're looking
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 7: at let's check the results here, buddy. No, you've wrecked
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 7: your country, You've wrecked your state. We certainly don't want
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 7: you to come do that to America and stay the
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 7: heck out of Ohio. So, I mean, this is the
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 7: kind of thing, and it's all in their list. I mean,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 7: if you look at the funding that Chuck Schumer lists
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 7: out to say hey, we want one and a half
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 7: trillion dollars of new spending or restored spending, they're basically saying, hey,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 7: we want to keep giving health care to illegals. We
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 7: want to take the fifty billion dollar fund that Republicans
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 7: gave to rural hospitals, and we want to turn that off.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 7: We'll think of the crazy thing there. We're going to
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 7: take your money and give it to illegal aliens. And
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 7: then we have rural hospitals and you know, vast parts
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 7: of America that okay, not the heaviest population, you're going
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 7: to take that money and give even more of it
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 7: to illegals. I mean, some of the stuff that they're
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 7: talking about with healthcare that they want to do aside
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 7: from the illegals is really.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: COVID plus ups.
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  Speaker 7: We gave we had a pandemic, we plused up money
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 7: for COVID, right, And they're like, oh, well you can't
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 7: turn that off. Well, pandemics over why wouldn't we turn
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 7: it off?
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: Well? And that bill that had the expiration data, and
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: it was written by the Democrat's own hand, they're the
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: ones that put the cutoff data in there. They're the
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: ones that voted for that, and lo and behold, the
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: date's coming. And so they want to extend it. Like
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: every other government program, once it's alive and in operation,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: it can never ever go away. That's their position on
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: these tax credits.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, which brings us back to Trump's and eliminade business.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 7: Hey, we said keep the government open. You're not keeping
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 7: it open. We get a certain amount of cash in
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 7: the vaults, so we're gonna make sure we do things
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 7: like pay our troops. We're going to operate the Fund
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 7: for Women and Infant Children, you know, the WICK program
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 7: out there that gives baby formula and diapers to new
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 7: mothers that are needy. And Democrats are threatening to sue
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 7: the Trump administration. Thus the judge you're referencing to say, well,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 7: you can't do that. It's not legal for you to
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 7: fund the troops. It's not legal for you to give
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 7: money to needy mothers. I think how far off course
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 7: Democrats are with where they're at. They're like, well, if
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 7: Trump's for it, it must be bad. You're like, you
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 7: guys need to pull up and check what you're doing here.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 7: And they're just way at a sink. And I think
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 7: eventually they're gonna get pressure from the public to say
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 7: knock it off unless get the government open and get
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 7: things underway. But in the meantime, I think the Trump
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 7: administras is gonna do exactly what you said. They're gonna
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 7: right size it. They're gonna get it to say, yeah,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 7: this over here doesn't even function right anymore, and they
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 7: put all that stuff in a budget. Generally, Congress, even
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 7: when it's our own party, ignores the White House budget
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 7: and just keeps the status quo going. But here's a
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 7: chance for us to break from it. Who knows, maybe
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 7: when Republicans come back in. We've got a majority in
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 7: the House. Technically there's a bipartisan majority in the Senate.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 7: Democrats have joined with Republicans in the Senate, they got
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 7: up to fifty six. I think they're down to fifty
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 7: one senators. I don't know who's present and who's as in,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 7: but they've they've voted like nine times in the Senate.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 7: They've always had a majority to keep the government open.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 7: But their rules in the Senate say sixty. I mean,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 7: that's one of the things we could do is just
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 7: to quote nuclear option on funding and then we'll just
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 7: pass Republican priorities. I don't know if that's where it leads,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 7: but in the meantime, lemonade.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: There you go. And there's always a question of you know,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: there is a potential for a change in administration. If
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: you give this nuclear option to go, it's going to
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: exist for the next administration. And God knows what that
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: might lead to. Congressman Warren Davidson, let's pause. I have
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: one question to ask you about the UN, since you
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: brought up the carbon tax, but I also want to
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: pivot over to the situation unfolded. Brother dre Andre un
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: comeing up the bottom of the hour on the police
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: chief threes a thigi thing, the violence of downten cents,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: and he outspoken. He is follow him online and Congressman
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: Warren Davids is on the program right now, and thank
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: you for your service for our country. I was pleased
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: to see at least Donald Trump is making sure the
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: troops are going to get paid. Obviously a huge support
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: of America's military, am I and I know that it's
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: near and dear topic to your heart, But that's only
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: gonna be a temporary fix. We got to get the
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: government back open. But since you mentioned the UN, and
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: I've obviously profound disappointment and are even involving ourselves with
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: the UN because it doesn't seem to be able to
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: accomplish anything. But they did come out with this proposal
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: to start levying global taxes on countries in the name
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: of I don't know, global warming or whatever. I just
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: have a simple question. Assuming I'm president of the United
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: States of America, and I have two words for the
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: UN in holding its hand out and asking me to
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: write a check. I got two words. Date happy birthday.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: As my dad would say, How can they force us
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: or any other country to pay anything? What if the
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: collective world just said, you know what, screw you. You
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: don't have any authority to collect at tax from us?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think that's exactly what's going to happen.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 7: We're not going to pay at tax to them. No
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 7: one owes them attacks. They have no authority to collect
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 7: at tax. But this is the kind of stuff that
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 7: they're over there working on with. I mean, they're essentially
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 7: a charitable organization funded by governments from all over the world,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 7: and they send people there to, you know, essentially trample
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 7: on American sovereignty. And yeah, if you're anti American, you
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 7: could go, yeah, hwan's great. It's helping us undermine our adversaries.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 7: But if you're in the United States or one of
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 7: our allies, you're like, what are you guys doing again?
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 7: I mean, what have they done that's productive? If you
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 7: look up and say, in the last fifty years, What
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 7: are the highlight reel out of the UN? And I
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 7: can't find any?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know what wasn't the theories behind even establishing
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: or creating a UN following the failure that was the
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: League of Nation sort of create a peaceful world for
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: us all to live in. Where the hell was the
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: UN when Donald Trump was negotiating peace with the Israelis
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: in the Hamas members well.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: Or any other any other.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, when's the last time?
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: When's the last?
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 7: I mean, they're not doing it, and they're not getting results,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 7: and they're not even helping the people that are doing it.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 7: In fact, often they're undermining. And that's I thought the
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 7: Donald Trump's UN speech was great. I mean I just
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 7: laid it out. I was like, yeah, uh, you know
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 7: the eight places that we negotiated peace, I didn't even
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 7: get a phone call.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they got no.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 7: Help at all, nothing whatsoever from the group that's actually
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 7: supposed to be doing this right, and they haven't produced it.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 7: And when you find out, look, what has what is Hama?
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 7: What has Hamas got to do with the peace in
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 7: the UN? Well, the UN was funding UNRA, which was
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 7: supposed to help with refugees, and they were actively enabling Hamas.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 7: I mean, these are the kinds of things where the
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 7: UN has actually been co opted to undermine peace, not
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 7: to promote it.
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  Speaker 4: So my suspicion has always been the only reason we
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: remain in the UN, considering its ongoing efforts to undermine
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: everything that we stand for. It's a base of operations
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: for the CIA to gather intelligence from these various countries
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: around the world. Am I right? Am I wrong? You
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: think I'm close? It sounds plausible, Yeah, okay, plausible is
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: good enough from a Congressman Arn Davidson who has security clearances.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: All right. Moving over to the situation in Gaza, it
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: sounds like, I mean, a glorious day. The hostages were release.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: The world celebrated that the bullets weren't flying. But the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: devil's always in the details, as I wanted, I'm prone
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: to saying all the time. And I read this morning
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: and yesterday in the day before the Hamas people are
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: going around and gunning down Palestinians, those that they claim
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: we're working in cooperation with the Israelis or at least
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: incoordinated effort to undermine Hamas. They're slaughtering their own people.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump has said they have to disarm, and I
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: would think disarmament would mean taking away the AK forty
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: seven's used to well murder members of Palestinian people. But
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: is this going to last? Do you get a sense
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: that this is actually going to take hold? Is this
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: just the last gasp of Hamas getting it out of
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  Speaker 4: its system before it's completely thrown out?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: Now, look, there was not a total victory here, so
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  Speaker 7: you know, this was not an unconditional surrender by Hamas.
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  Speaker 7: It was essentially a negotiated settlement.
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  Speaker 3: Short of that.
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  Speaker 7: So a lot of the Hamas military, the leadership that
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 7: remained alive, but a lot of them were killed by Israel.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 7: But the remnant is now converting themselves into a quote
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 7: police force. And what are they doing with their policing. Well,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 7: it's not like you know, our Bill of Rights or anything.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 7: They're just saying, look, these guys are anti Hamas and
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 7: they're open to working with Israel, and they want to
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 7: guy that isn't governed by by us Hamas. So they
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 7: get a bullet. There's no trial, there's no like, uh,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 7: you know, let's let's have a poll. Let's let's go
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  Speaker 7: have a election day and select leadership. Uh, there's there's
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  Speaker 7: none of that in Gaza. And the only way it's
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 7: going to get into Gaza is if it's imposed. And
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 7: Benjamin Netanya, who is in the act of imposing it.
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  Speaker 7: So uh, you know, unfortunately, war is horrible, uh and
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 7: you know, and for good reason. I mean you're killing
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  Speaker 7: people and destroying things. I mean it's a terrible uh
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 7: state for humans to get to a war. Middle East,
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  Speaker 7: that's they've seen an awful lot of it. But I
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  Speaker 7: don't know how you reconcile.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: You know, people that want literally they're raised their kids
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  Speaker 7: from cradle to grave, death to Israel, death to America,
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  Speaker 7: you know, from the river to the sea. You know,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 7: all this mindset of just kill, kill, kill because we
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 7: disagree with these people, and it isn't.
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  Speaker 3: Going to happen overnight.
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  Speaker 7: So we've got progress and hopefully some of the people
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  Speaker 7: that are anti Hamas and anti terror will take control
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  Speaker 7: of their own affairs. I mean, that's the only way
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  Speaker 7: they're going to be a little to live in peace.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and I think that's something the Middle East countries
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: that surround the area, you know, Saudi Arabia, Cutter and others,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: some who have already entered into the Abraham Peace Accords.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: I think they realize that threat threatens their existence. They
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: finally have come around to the realization that playing nice
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: with terrorist organizations is indeed an existential threat to their
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: own governments, in their own countries existence. You got any
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: comment on that before we part company, Congressman Davidson.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's exactly the framework. I mean, President Trump did
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 7: a great job of building alliances with the Air of nations.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 7: I mean Cutter, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and others were there
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 7: celebrating the signing of this peace agreement, and they've committed
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 7: to be part of rebuilding Gaza. So, you know, the
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  Speaker 7: hope is that with their influence, they can show look,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 7: you can be you know, Muslim and not hostile, like
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 7: you can live in peace. It doesn't have to be
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 7: this endless jihad is the only path to be Muslim.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 7: And there are Muslim countries where they've lived in pretty good,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 7: peaceful situations and they're you know, kudos to NBS in
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 7: Saudi Arabia. They're modernizing their country in a lot of ways.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 7: If you look at Dubai, they're doing things that are
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 7: blending modern world with their faith, and you know, Hey,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 7: that's what they should do. I mean, you know, I
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 7: believe they should follow Jesus, but I'm not going to
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 7: go kill them for it. Right, they believe I should
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 7: follow Mohammed. Hopefully they'll get to the people that feel
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 7: like they should just kill us as infidels over that
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 7: and say, you know, we can agree to disagree on that. Yeah,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 7: and if they can, you know, maybe we can have
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 7: some peace over there.
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  Speaker 4: There. You go, proselytize, make your argument, and we'll all
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: draw our own conclusions about which direction we want to go. Davidson,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: thank you for your service to our country in your
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: in your service in the military, as your service as
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: a representative, and thank you to the voters who put
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: you in office. You do a great job. And I'm
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: thank thanking you especially for your willingness to come on
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: and talk about these issues with my listeners and me,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: my friend, have a wonderful day, keep your fingers crossed,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: and we'll hope for better times moving forward. I'd care
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: to see the talk station k S talk station. I
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: was going to say, Brian Thomas happy to have in
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: studio brother dre Andre Ewing with comments about what's going
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: on in downtown Cincinnati. He was in traffic a little bit.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: He was front of moll Or High School, which means
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: he will be on here or he is on his way.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: But because he's stopping in the studio, just going to
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: do a couple of local stories here and we'll bring
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: in brother Dre in the next segment, because I feel
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: pretty confident he will have arrived by them. So here
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: we go. Identity the person killed in a hit and
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: run in Butler County earlier on Saturday. They've been released.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: Butler kind of Corner's Office said the call report of
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: the person was hit by a white van traveling eastbound
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: on Riley Millville Road near Woodbine about six o'clock in
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: the morning. Deputy shot there. They found Corey mcquitty, twenty
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: three years old, dead in the road. That's for the coroner.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: He said that mcquitty's cause of death was multiple traumatic
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: inn injuries. The white van is believed to have fled
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: the scene. Ergo. If you have any information, Deputys and
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: Warren County want to hear from you, Specifically Stargeant Stephen Poff.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: Sergeant Pop can be reached at five one, three seven
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: eight five twelve eighteen residents on Reading Road calling for
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: urgent safety measures. This after a series of crashes at
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: the intersection of Reading and Goalbirth local property under there.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: Interviewed by Local twelve Donlykins called the road a race track,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: vehicles often exceeding the twenty five mile an hour speed limit.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: He's witnessed at least one crash per month, so he's
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: advocating four what do you think speed bumps out? Department
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: of Transportation reports that fifteen thousand motorists use Retting Road
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: on a daily basis. One hundred and twenty crashes resulting
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: in injuries happened between twenty twenty twenty twenty four. Internadministrator
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: Safety Services Director Patrick Ross said that Renting Road has
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: been selected as a heavy traffic safety corridor by o
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 4: DOT initiative part of a pilot speed study which is
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 4: seeking to reduce vehicle speeds to the posted twenty five
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 4: mile per hour limit. City of Cincinnati collaborating with ODOT
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: on a three point two million dollar project paid for
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: by the state. Was Stage one, expected to be in October.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: No idea what stage two is, but Stage three is,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: of course profit. Proposed changes include reducing lanes, improving crosswalks,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: raising medians it remains unserved with speed humps will be
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: part of the final design. So slowing things down because
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: people are well idiots when it comes to driving through
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: twenty five mile hour persons going like fifty. So without
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: that will pause from Roman andre Ewing in the house
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: and beyond the program next that you can stick our
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: get some motor egged and happy Friday Eve in the house. Man.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you this guy gets me, Rile that he
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: gets me shouting at the computer and doing high fives
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: when no one's in the room when I'm watching what
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: he has to say. Andre Ewing, Curse Breakers three hundred.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: He can explain to you about that again. But welcome back, Andrea.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: You are an outspoken i'll say, critic, but not always critic.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 4: You praise stuff that's good and you attack things politically
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: that are bad. Retired police officer, you had thirty years
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: of police a service under your belt, right, Yes, sir,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 4: you've seen it all. Yes you remember the days before
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: issue five and you obviously there were problems. You can
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: even mention that if you choose to, it wasn't a
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 4: perfect system back then. I know a lot of police
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: officers weren't thrilled with Chief Tom Striker being police chief.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: And you know, but now we have it completely politicized.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: And of course the conversation brought up because a lot
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: of rumors swirling around the police chief. Thiji's job was
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 4: on the line. She got hauled back from her police
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: convention conference and sort of why did she go in
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: the middle of all this chaos is a question. But
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: at least she wasn't well watching when it all hit
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: the fan. So, but it's become politicized. Mayor, I have
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: to have purvall the city manager have total control over
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: who gets hired and who gets fired. And a lot
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 4: of suggestions, I know you were listening to Dan Hills
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: this morning, that that creates this sort of capitulation someone
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: who could be a strong leader, someone who might have
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: great ideas about policing and might run a foul of
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: what Pervoll and the manager and the city manager want,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: which means their jobs on the line if they disagree.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 4: That is not a good view from my standpoint, And
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: here we find ourselves today a lot of crime in downtown.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: Have to have Parvoll, with his election on the line,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: doing a lot of things, or at least paying lip
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: service to it. But now we've got this wrinkle in
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: the thing about maybe Chief Fiji's going to lose her job.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 4: Is any of this her fault? Andre Ewing, welcome back, man, Hey.
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  Speaker 11: I appreciate it, brother Brian. It's always a pleasure. I
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 11: want to give a shout out to my wife, Danielle Ewing,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 11: who's a police officer as will and also a breast
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 11: cancer survived, so having breast Cancer Awareness month. Just want
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 11: to talk to all my survivors and your thrivers so
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 11: we love you and keep fighting.
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  Speaker 4: And then thank you very much for bringing that up.
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  Speaker 11: Absolutely, let's get down to the truth, brother Brian, because
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 11: I'm not gonna water it down. I've always said that
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 11: Fiji has no business being the chief.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 11: Now, Dan Hills was on the show talking about she
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 11: did better than what I thought? What is better than? Okay,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 11: we clearly said that Lisa Davis was the better choice.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 11: And what rings in my mind is December tenth, twenty
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 11: twenty two. That rings in my mind. Why because Cheryl
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 11: Long and Scottie Johnson walked into District two and started
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 11: to ask us questions, what chief do we want? And
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 11: it's interesting because I've been on your show before and
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 11: overwhelmingly we told the city manager, do not place Terretha
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 11: Thiji out of chief position. And it was almost like
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 11: we were begging her overwhelmingly one hundred percent in the room,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 11: and they did an assessment and overwhelmingly you heard even
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 11: Dan Hill say, yeah, we weren't for Thiji. It was overwhelmingly,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 11: and you still chose somebody that everybody said do not do.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 11: So I'm not gonna just say Thiji should go once again,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 11: having a convention out of town during all this telling
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 11: chiefs what what not to do and how to talk
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 11: to criminals to just behave This is absolutely ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's revealing of a pattern because as you
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: were talking about that, who is most I mean, the
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: city residents obviously impacted by who's running the police department,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: but that's one thing. But she is there to keep
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: the police department organized, to hire and fire the right people,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 4: to give promotions to hopefully the merit based right people,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera. So you're most impacted as a
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: police officer. Overwhelming support for someone other than tig That
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: sounds remarkably like the city council and this mayor's treatment
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: of the residents of Hyde Park who were overwhelmingly against
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 4: that damn development project so much so that they got
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 4: it on the ballot to have it repealed. That's what
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: forced the city to capitulate in this particular case. Doesn't
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: sound like the city is capitulating anything. They're like, okay,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: you want that police chief. Sorry, screw you, guys, We're
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 4: going with DG anyway.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 11: Correct, which is ridiculous. That's why Sheryl Loan cannot get
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 11: off the hook. And what makes her a specialist in
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 11: picking and choosing the right police chief? What skills does
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 11: she have to disregard an entire police force? And how
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 11: do you just get that power from individuals who have
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 11: no experience in policing. And we see the results of
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 11: that decision. And so it's interesting because Fiji is collateral
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 11: damage being placed in a position that it was really Hey, Chief,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 11: we're begging you, don't take it because you're not ready.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 11: You're being set up by a highly political process. And
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 11: this is the results of leadership. That's why I said
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 11: Aftab needs to go, Sheryl Long needs to go as
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 11: well as Chief and Iris Rowley because we keep hearing
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 11: about this collaborative agreement. Will somebody, a professional attorney sit
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 11: down and really break down this entire process because you
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 11: hear it so much. It's it's a document that we
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 11: need to know what exactly is in those documents that
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 11: appears to be that IRIS has so much power in
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 11: this situation, and we will.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: Bring that topic back up. We're bumping up against the
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: break here. Andre a Ewing brother Dre. You can find
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 4: him online. He's going to revamp his Facebook pagees currently
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: it's under a Ewing. I follow him. You gotta watch
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: his weekly videos. They are you'll find yourself high fiving
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: no one in the room while he's talking about it.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 4: Forty five fifty five The Doug zasion quickly mentioned for
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 4: in exchange. Because you want to save everydy should if
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  Speaker 4: I had KARS the talk station seven nine here fifty
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  Speaker 4: five krc DE talk station. Andre. You check him out
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 4: on Facebook. I recommend you checking out what he has
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: to say each and every week. Outspoken observer, critic, sometimes
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 4: sometimes supporter, but things going on in the city of Cincinnati,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 4: bringing his thirty years of law enforcement experience and observations
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: and never pulling any punches on it. So check him out.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: You said you're going to rename your page at some point, Andre, Yeah.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 11: Sir, it's going to be under a Curse Breakers three
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 11: hundred right now, cars Breakers three hundred dash Brother Dre
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 11: is going to be revamped. But it definitely Brother Dre
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 11: and Curse Breakers three hundred.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 4: So definitely let you know, all right, and you'd be
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 4: doing the same thing even under the different all right, yes,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: because I would hate if that weren't away. Absolutely Back
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 4: to Iris rol you're talking met You've never personally seen
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: the collaborative agreement? Are you suggesting? Is it's kind of
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 4: like a hidden document. It's not like I can't search
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 4: for the SENSEI Collaborative Agreement and come up with a
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: full page PDF for the whole thing.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 11: And it's interesting because nobody seems to know the heart
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 11: of the collaborative agreement. The mayor has thrown it around
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 11: a lot in the debate. He threw it up, And
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 11: so what needs to happen to the citizens of Cincinnati
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 11: since it's being brought up and Iris Rollie's name is
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 11: being brought up presented to the city, read verbatim the
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 11: structure and the importance of it. Now we do understand
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 11: that from the Tim Thomas murder, from the police officer
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 11: and the issues that occurred there, that the collaborative Agreement
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 11: was started and the profiling that officers were doing, so
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 11: it was needed. But now here we are it was refreshed.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 11: What exactly is in there? Because I'm tired of hearing
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 11: about it and tired of hearing that she's at the
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 11: table dictating what rules are in or not. So will
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 11: somebody show up verbatim and that should come from the
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 11: chief or city manager or mayor, since you're referring to
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 11: it but showing us no facts of her position dealing
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 11: with this all right?
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: And I had read Signal ninety nine's post, and there
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: was a reference in there that Iris Roly did do
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 4: a presentation to law enforcement officials and other services that
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 4: the governor offered. So before you come here to work
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 4: for two days a week, maybe now four days a week,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 4: you got to listen to a sermon by Iris Roley.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 4: I'm boiling down what she said, but presumably I can
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 4: imagine since she was there for the creation of and
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 4: was an integral part of establishing the collaborative Agreement, that
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 4: she doesn't know what's in it. But is it everybody's
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: understanding that she was telling the officers and officials what's
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: in there and what they have to do by way
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 4: of how to conduct their policing activities in the city,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 4: or was she providing her own version of it, because
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 4: that's where the wording in the collaborative Agreement is so
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 4: damn important. Question number two and I think you know
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 4: the answer to this or can guess it. Is there
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 4: anything in the collaborate Agreement that allows for the designation
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 4: of a pope or an i mom or a grand
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 4: Pooba of the collaborative agreement? How did she land in
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: that role as a highly paid consultant going around telling
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 4: people how to do things?
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: And you know what?
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 11: Those are the mystery questions that need to be answered
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 11: to find out exactly what is her position as you see,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 11: it never was told to us even after everything occurred.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 11: And seeing this is where a Chief Thiji is a
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 11: problem as well, because you haven't spoken out even when
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 11: she was out harassing officers, So what exactly is happening?
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 11: No one actually came forward to present and say this
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 11: is a problem. So until we actually know under what
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  Speaker 11: power she has, this is constantly going to be confused.
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  Speaker 11: She can address it to the osp and say we
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  Speaker 11: want you to follow this collaborative agreement and resources say
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  Speaker 11: that there was a memorandum that they had to sign
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  Speaker 11: and follow, But what are you following? And that is
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  Speaker 11: the question that the citizens and taxpayers need to know.
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  Speaker 4: That's an excellent observation, all right. Pivoting over to something
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  Speaker 4: the mayor seems to want to embrace, and I know
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  Speaker 4: Cranleigh was wanted to embrace the idea of hiring more
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  Speaker 4: police officers. Were down a couple of hundred more taking
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  Speaker 4: early drop. I mean, they're not even sticking out the
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  Speaker 4: entire drop program. They're just washing their hands up and saying,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 4: I'm out senior officers losing experience, and we don't have
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  Speaker 4: enough younger officers fill in the rank. So this concept
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 4: of lateral hires has come up. Sounds brilliant, you know,
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  Speaker 4: DANGELA carative incentive over here in the city of Cincinnati
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  Speaker 4: for someone to quit their suburban police officer job and
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  Speaker 4: work in the city. That sounds like a tough road
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  Speaker 4: to ho there, andre Ewing, what in your perception should
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  Speaker 4: the city do to get people to want to come
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  Speaker 4: and work in the cincinnai police department. I mean, is
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  Speaker 4: there a simple solution to that, because everybody's climbing for
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: officers out there in the world.
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  Speaker 11: Correct, and leadership is the key. Once again, no one
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  Speaker 11: wants to be a police, no one. This is a
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  Speaker 11: serious issue. And this is why you release the full
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  Speaker 11: package with the OSP. And this is interesting because this
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 11: could be a test temperature to say, we're gonna test
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  Speaker 11: how the OSP. We release the full package. We allow
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  Speaker 11: them to do their traffic stops, their investigations, help with
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  Speaker 11: cis all the things the police need. That means what
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 11: more officers? So if you already have the funding to
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  Speaker 11: give us the OSP, why would you keep complaining about
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 11: we need to hire more officers. Here's the test, baby,
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  Speaker 11: right here. Release all these officers at your disposal. This
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  Speaker 11: leadership is ridiculous. I just gave you the blueprint. Release
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  Speaker 11: it and see how this goes. And you will see
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  Speaker 11: when we get more officers. Here is already the blueprint
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  Speaker 11: that's been set. Release the full package.
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  Speaker 4: Get the full package. Get if the officer could numbers
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  Speaker 4: back up to where they should be, and let's see
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  Speaker 4: if it works at least right, absolute, that's what you're saying, Absolutely,
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  Speaker 4: try it out. You know what, maybe in six months
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  Speaker 4: from now, if they did all that, just flooded the
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  Speaker 4: streets with every day twenty four hours, seven days a week,
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  Speaker 4: the additional resources, and six months from now, if crime
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  Speaker 4: is gone up or things haven't changed, you can say,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, it isn't the amount of officers. It's
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: got to be something else. Thank you very much, andre Ewing,
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 4: you are the vehicle for such logic and common sense
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  Speaker 4: to make it out to the residents and the folks
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  Speaker 4: What's going on in the city of Cincinnati and welcome
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  Speaker 4: back to the fifty five Carsite Morning Show. Always a pleasure.
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  Speaker 4: Liz Keating, former counselman, she's running again. We hope she
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  Speaker 4: gets elect at least I do gust Drekker does. Andre
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  Speaker 4: Ewing's got your back. Liz Keaty, welcome back to the
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  Speaker 4: fifty five Carcy Morning Show. It's a pleasure to have
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  Speaker 4: you back on the show.
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  Speaker 12: Thanks for having me. It's always a pleasure to be on.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and we're excited and we hope that that voters
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  Speaker 4: give you another shot. At very turbulent times and politics
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 4: in downtown Cincinnati and surprising, I think me and everybody
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: else who fully is aware of how blue the city
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 4: is in terms of its democratic leanings. Mary, I have
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 4: to have purval. Seems to be scrambling to respond to
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: the crime problem at least that we've gotten downtown Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 4: But a little late in the day as we get
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  Speaker 4: closer and closer, only a few weeks away from voting,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: but he's getting he's it seems to have he's gone
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 4: into overdrive mode. And now we have this additional wrinkle
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 4: that maybe Police Chief Teresa Thiji might get fired. What's
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 4: your reaction has as you see things unfold?
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's a little too late. You know,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 12: of people, the residents of Cincinnati have long been saying
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 12: they don't feel safe. We've seen violent crime continue to
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 12: pick up and we've heard council members. I mean, we've
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 12: had candidate forums. There's been canet forums several weeks, for
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 12: many weeks leading up to this election. And they're incumbent
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 12: council members who consistently say that these candiate forums everything,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 12: it's fine, we're lying about crime. Crime is going down.
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  Speaker 12: Nothing to see here, And they didn't want to face
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 12: the facts. They didn't want to admit what was going on.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 12: They didn't want to listen to residents who are saying,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 12: I just don't feel safe, let alone. We know news
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 12: every morning there's been shooting after shooting after shooting, and
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 12: they don't do anything. And now all of a sudden
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 12: they're panicking and trying to make changes right before an election.
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  Speaker 12: This is not how we want our city to be run.
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  Speaker 12: We need leaders who are willing to face the facts
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  Speaker 12: and take action right away, not try to hide it
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  Speaker 12: until it's too late leading up to an election. I
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 12: just want better leadership and we need change in Cincinnati
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  Speaker 12: the way.
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  Speaker 4: And I guess, looking just at the issue of the
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  Speaker 4: police chief, I don't personally blame police Chief three cy
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  Speaker 4: Thigi for the violence in downtown Cincinnati. She is working
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: with a contingent of police officers, which is at least,
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 4: as we understand it, a couple of hundred less than
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 4: what we could fully use in downtown Cincinnati. But given
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 4: the way the police chiefs are appointed and fired, that
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: that power rests soling the hands of the mayor and
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: the city manager, neither of whom know anything about policing
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  Speaker 4: generally speaking. I don't know how what their role in
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 4: what their position and those roles is that gives them
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 4: the the the the knowledge and the skills necessary to
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 4: select a good police chief. But the political reality of
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 4: that is that the police chiefs beholden to the political
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 4: whims of those two people, which are not in the
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  Speaker 4: interests of the police department. I don't think in the
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 4: interests of the city of Cincinnati. Voters will decide that.
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  Speaker 4: But should we go back to the way it was
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  Speaker 4: before Issue five got passed, Liz, I think yeah.
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  Speaker 12: I think that is a very valid point. Ken Korb
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  Speaker 12: has been very loud about that as well, to give
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 12: that buffer. So for the listeners who don't know what
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 12: that means, that means we could potentially have a situation
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  Speaker 12: right now the city manager can can fire the police
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  Speaker 12: chief or the fire chief. You know, any time, for
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 12: any reason, the mayor can fire the city manager. But
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 12: to put a little buffer in place, to require a
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  Speaker 12: vote of city council, say seven votes of city council,
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  Speaker 12: to approve the firing of somebody.
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  Speaker 2: That gives them a little.
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  Speaker 12: Buffer to actually do their job and not to sit
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  Speaker 12: it on and and be beholden to the political powers
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  Speaker 12: and and have to deal with the politicization of their jobs.
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  Speaker 12: I really like that idea, and it gives them just
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 12: much more room to actually act in the professional manners
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  Speaker 12: that they're supposed to like. Actually police actually make tough
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 12: decisions that may not be politically expedient for those who
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 12: are in office. I think it's a very valid point,
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 12: something that we should continue to debate and look at,
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  Speaker 12: because otherwise you're going to continuously see this, especially leading
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  Speaker 12: into an election season.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I suppose on some level, given the nature of
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  Speaker 4: how she was appointed as police chief, that her if
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 4: she is fired, the question will be why are you
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 4: firing her? Is it because of these of the violence
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 4: in the city, since I and you have misallocated the
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 4: resources in the city, or is an acknowledgment that because
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 4: she follows the policies of the city manager, and I
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: have to have pro ball that it's a reflection of
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 4: their own failure by appointing her in the first place,
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  Speaker 4: or by dictating how she runs the office. I mean,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 4: that's like, that's like blaming yourself if you fire her.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, you have to have elected officials that are
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  Speaker 12: willing to stand up every single day and say I
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 12: support the police, and I want the police to just
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 12: go do their jobs and not holding back and not
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 12: create a situation where they're nervous to want to go
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  Speaker 12: out and do their jobs the way that they were trained.
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  Speaker 12: The fact that we are waiting this long to start
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 12: going after people who are breaking the law, even minor infractions,
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 12: is absolutely mind boggling to me. I mean, people have
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 12: been complaining about this for a very very long time,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 12: and then to just here this week saying, Okay, we're
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 12: going to start going after you, and we're going to
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 12: come talk to you, we're going to approach you if
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 12: you are doing anything illegal. I mean, the fact that
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 12: elected officials weren't supporting and encouraging the police to do
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 12: this so long ago, I mean, it's no wonder we're
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 12: in the situation that we are in. You've got to
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 12: be able to support the police, and you've got to
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 12: encourage in and allow the police to do their jobs
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 12: and not let politics get in.
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  Speaker 2: The way of that.
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  Speaker 4: Amen to that. And then if they are left to
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 4: do their job, to run the job independently, make the
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 4: choices on their own, free of political pressure, and they
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 4: do a poor job, you have a legitimate justification. Hey,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 4: we let her run the show. She failed at that.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 4: We're going to find somebody that does a better job.
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  Speaker 4: That would be more logical and reasonable. But right now
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 4: her hands are tied. And again, if they fire her,
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 4: they're firing her because she bent to their will. That'd
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 4: be my argument. Anyway, what do you action the Jeff
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 4: Ruby Entertainment Center closing down. I know the spin in
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 4: local media was it was some sort of rent dispute,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 4: but it actually was not. The CEO from Ruby's said
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 4: out loud that knows because of security the rental company
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 4: the property owner wasn't providing adequate security. I think that's
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 4: suggesting we need better security downtown. There are employees working
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 4: here and they have concerns walking in and out of
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 4: the building, or that maybe criminals and evil types might
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 4: walk into the building, So the controversy centers around safety,
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 4: and they're not there anymore. After that, Purvoal was on
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 4: the TV last night arguing with Corey Bowman, claiming Heaps
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 4: brought all kinds of businesses in a downsound. But I
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 4: don't remember any of that, Liz keating, are we losing
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 4: more than we're gaining? Where are we in terms of
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 4: drawing people into downtown Cincinnati?
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  Speaker 12: You know, I think we have a problem across the board.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 12: We have seen restaurant shutdown and those restaurant owners consistently
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 12: say that it's because crime, and say has it been
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 12: a problem and impacting their businesses? Now, we know we
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 12: are in a tough economy. We know that we already
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 12: have a lot of forces going against us. But when
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 12: you have this kind of economy, you know crime spikes,
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 12: you know mental health issues rise, and you know you
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 12: have safety issues. These are things that could have been
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 12: prevented and worked on two years ago, but it wasn't.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 12: And now we're consistently hearing You're hearing restaurants in the banks,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 12: You're hearing restaurants in Central Business District, You're hearing restaurants
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 12: do it in OTR Consistently complained about that and need
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 12: for more police officers, more police officers walking the beat,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 12: more security, more private detail to be able to manage
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 12: this not just from a security standpoint and a safety standpoint,
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 12: but a perception of safety so that people feel safe.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 12: And if people don't feel safe, they are not going
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 12: to come support our businesses, and those businesses are going
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 12: to hurt. And if we are a city that does
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 12: not support these small businesses that are the lifeblood of
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 12: our city and our community, we have a huge, huge
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 12: problem down the line. We got to be able to
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 12: do better, and we need city officials, particularly city council
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 12: step up and actually care about these businesses and make
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 12: sure they're getting the support they need from a safety standpoint.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Pauls, bring Liz Keating back. Obviously we know where
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 4: she is on crime in the downtown sin Sinnator. We're
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 4: going to get some other ideas she has for as
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 4: she wins the council race. Early voting is open, the
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 4: Board of Elections is open. Go cast your vote today.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 4: Make sure Liz Keating is among the four or five
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 4: you actually vote for. Going back to Christopher Smithman's point,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 4: don't vote for all nine. You don't need to do that.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 4: Just vote for the ones you want. It's vote Liz
• 1:52:42
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  Speaker 2: From the station.
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  Speaker 4: Eight eighteen fifty five ker CED Talk station. So there's
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 4: a very important election in the city of Cincinnati coming
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 4: up in November, and Liz Keating's on the battle for
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 4: sincey City Council joining the program this, we wan't need
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 4: to talk about that. So as we move away from crime,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 4: I had one of the other huge issues for the
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 4: residents of the city, and we saw this unfold and
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 4: Bond Hill and Hyde Park they collectively painted this connected
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 4: communities zoning rule over all of the neighborhoods without consulting
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 4: with local communities about whether they wanted it or not,
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 4: and then start making exceptions for well connected developers and
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: in other areas without consulting those local communities like the
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 4: residents of Hyde Park. We all know how that worked
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: out for the mayor and the city council. What is
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 4: the Liz Keating approach to let's say, affordable housing. I
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 4: know Parvoll said even again last night he wants forty
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: thousand new affordable called affordable homes. Maybe you can define
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 4: that for me, because I don't know what that means
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 4: in the next ten years, but that's four thousand a years.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 4: They haven't even come close to that goal. Liz, keeping
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 4: your reaction to property.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think the number one reason why they haven't
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 12: come close to that goal is because they're not actually
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 12: having productive debate there. I mean, if you if you
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 12: look at these situations, they're going all or nothing. So
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 12: you've got council members who are voting yes, just get
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 12: down there and give speeches as to why they're voting yes.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 12: And then you've got council members they're voting no, and
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 12: they're giving speeches as to why they're voting no. So
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 12: they go all or nothing. A lot of these communities
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 12: are saying, yeah, we do want housing, we do want investment,
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 12: we do want something. Can you just work with us
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 12: into what fits within the design of our community. And
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 12: if it's all or nothing, everyone loses. You end up
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 12: with nothing, as you're seeing it in High Park. Whereas
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 12: a lot of the High Park neighborhood said, you know,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 12: our squares old, it's been a while since we've gotten
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 12: some sort of investment. We'd be happy to have a
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 12: little bit of a facelift. Can you work within our
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 12: current voting?
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: Can you?
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  Speaker 12: Can you work within the current design?
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: Can you?
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 12: Can you respect the architectural history of our square? And
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 12: if you had done that, you would actually be moving
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 12: forward on a project right now that one fits with
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 12: a neighbor that makes the neighborhood happy, and you'd actually
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 12: have more units than you have now. Guess how many
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 12: we have now because of the absolute failure of City
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 12: Council zero. And it's insane. If you look at the
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 12: way the city approaches development in our urban core, it
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 12: is very proactive, it's strategic, it's intentional, and it respects
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 12: the historic architecture of our downtown. And I've said this before.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 12: You wouldn't build a big box apartment building on the
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 12: empty parking lot next to music Hall.
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  Speaker 3: You just want it.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 12: Nobody would even fathom doing that. But when you go
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 12: to the neighborhoods that things like that are like, oh, well,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 12: you're a nimbi if you don't want this, and it's
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 12: absolutely absurd, Like you rarely see opposition of housing being
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 12: built in urban core because of how careful and how
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 12: intentional they are on it, and if we can take
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 12: that same proactive approach in our neighborhoods, work with our
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 12: neighborhoods of what do you want and how do we
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 12: make this fit? You can actually be much more proactive
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 12: and figure out how to incentivize that kind of investment,
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 12: and particularly for disinvested neighborhoods, they can get that added investment,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 12: more housing units the way that fits within the neighborhood,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 12: and you'd be much further along. If you continue this
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 12: all or nothing approach and absolutely fail and having a
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  Speaker 12: productive debate, you get where you are now, which is zero.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it seems to me this kind of communities and
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  Speaker 4: it's all about affordable housing. I don't know what that
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  Speaker 4: word means. I know that if somebody built an apartment
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 4: complex in Hyde Park, and maybe it was, you know,
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 4: one hundred units and each one only had let's say
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  Speaker 4: five hundred square feet, you're going to get a hell
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  Speaker 4: of a lot more rent in that unit than you are.
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  Speaker 4: And pick one of the other fifty two neighborhoods where
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 4: maybe the crime is a lot higher, maybe the amenities
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 4: aren't is, maybe there's not as much shopping or grocery
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 4: store access. They're not going to command as much rent
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  Speaker 4: just by virtue of location. You can't control that unless
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 4: you put in some kind of rent control, can you, Liz,
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  Speaker 4: I think.
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  Speaker 12: It's more the way I look at it is is
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 12: figuring out how we can get more two, three, four
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  Speaker 12: families built, because if you look on public transit lines,
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 12: you can build within neighborhoods, these smaller what you know
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 12: professionals call the missing middle housing. You're building up those,
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 12: and then more people can can actually build those. You
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 12: have more mom and pops that can build a two family.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 12: It's a pathway to home ownership because somebody can buy
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 12: a two family and rent out the other side, and
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 12: I'll set their mortgage, which you know brings the cost down.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 12: But then you're buying real estate, which we all know
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 12: builds that generational wealth. But then more people can partake
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  Speaker 12: in that because there aren't very many people who can
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 12: afford to big, big apartment buildings like you're seeing in
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 12: the urban core. And so if you can take that approach,
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  Speaker 12: and I think hyge Park is a perfect example. If
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 12: you look at all these cross streets around Hyghe Park Square,
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 12: like z'ms Seen and Barry in Michigan and Eriie and observatory.
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  Speaker 12: You do have a lot of two three four families.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 12: I grew up on a street two doors down with
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 12: a four family because I lived right off of a
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 12: major road on Linwood Road. And it gives more people
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  Speaker 12: the opportunity easy. You allow more people to be able
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  Speaker 12: to build, and it offsets the cost to be able
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  Speaker 12: to create that pathway to home ownership and generational wealth.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 12: And I think that's the best approach because those smaller
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 12: missing middle housing, the two three four family units that
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 12: fits into neighborhoods, it works. And if you're doing it
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 12: on public transit lines, if you're doing in these neighborhood
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 12: business districts, if you're doing it in near schools and
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 12: health centers and daycares, you know it fits so perfectly
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  Speaker 12: and more people get to partake in it.
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  Speaker 4: And I presume that this entire conversation has to be
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 4: predicated on one of those smaller builders maybe or any
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 4: any builder actually realizing a profit by building that type
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 4: of unit as opposed to going for the full freight
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 4: really big apartments or really expensive housing.
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  Speaker 12: There is think about the number of people that could
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 12: move forward on doing that versus one massive project that
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 12: takes years and years to get all the approvals, to
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 12: get all the financing and move forward. And I think
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 12: the problem with this council is that the you know,
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 12: they keep this all or nothing approach and then they
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 12: panic because they haven't move forward on any numbers, and
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 12: so they just want one big project so they can
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 12: you know, tally up and say we got this many
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 12: versus trying to figure out how to be much more
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 12: proactive and strategic and working with the community to make
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 12: it fit. There is a way to do this. We
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 12: have seen other cities do this, and we just need
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 12: council members who are willing to take the time and
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 12: actually have that productive debate to figure it out.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 4: Early voting is open. I recommend my listeners check out
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 4: their website vote Lizkeating dot com. In spite of the
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 4: fact that we're running out of time in terms of
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 4: now in the election just a few weeks away, it's
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 4: not too late for folks to help out with your campaign,
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 4: get involved and maybe even donate or are we past that?
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 4: Liz Keating.
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  Speaker 12: A absolutely not pass that all of the above, So
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 12: we definitely need help and we will take any and
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 12: all help. Obviously, donations are extremely helpful, particularly at these
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 12: last few weeks, to help with ads and the mailers.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 12: We need people at the polling locations on election day
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 12: talking to your neighbors, your friends as they come in
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 12: to vote, and and you know, getting yard signs up
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 12: and just making sure people are aware because you know,
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 12: voter turnout is extremely low on these off year elections,
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 12: and that's why we end up with what we have
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 12: right now. And if you want to have a voice,
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 12: if you want to have productive debate, if you want
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 12: somebody who's going to fight crime and fight the causes
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 12: of crime. If you want somebody who is going to
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 12: make sure those potholes are filled and the roads are
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 12: paved and we actually plow snow when it's when it
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 12: snows out. We need to have you show up. We
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 12: need to have you talking about it and make sure
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 12: you got your networks to show up to vote too.
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  Speaker 4: Have those sound like great ideas that you need to vote,
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 4: Liz Keating, I recommend people do that again.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 12: Vote listen a great idea. Sorry I'm interrupting you here.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 12: That is not even a great idea, that is just
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 12: common sense foundation of local government. This shouldn't be that hard.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 4: I'm glad I said it, Cincinnati. I'm glad I said
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 4: that change down.
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  Speaker 3: There, right.
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad I said that because you put the exclamation
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 4: point on it. Amen, Liz Keaty, good luck. If we
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 4: don't talk between now and then, and I hope we do.
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 4: I wish you all the best, and I really just
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 4: for the benefit of the city that I love so much,
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 4: we need a new administration who can focus on this
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 4: logical and reasonable strategy. Thanks Liz Keating, keep up the
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 4: great work and I'll wish you all the best as
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 4: we fast approach election day coming up.
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  Speaker 9: Many things to be thankful for it to be otherwise, brother,
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 9: you know that is I know it's been a very
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 9: good day.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 4: That's why I love the post you put up on
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 4: Facebook because I always have this inspirational, positive message. You know,
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 4: there's always something positive you can focus on, and that's
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 4: why I like you so much. You're good man. Jay
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 4: rat left and what happened to Southwest? Real quick? Here
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 4: carve all time. Last time you were on you were
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 4: talking I think was Spirit Airlines. Who's getting rid of
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 4: reclining seats or you had to pay extra for them?
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 9: Well, actually that's West Jets. West cat and yeah, West
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 9: Jet in Canada, they're they're kind of the Southwest Airlines,
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 9: if you will, of Canada to a smaller version. They're
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 9: premium seats are seats that we can pay extra for
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 9: if we want, if you want to read like that
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 9: premium service of reclining. Yes, exactly.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 4: But Southwest just has redesigned their interiors of all some
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 4: of their airplanes anyway, and they're now switching to brand
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 4: new Reccaro R two seats featuring multi adjustable headrest, cutchen,
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 4: integrated tablet and phone holder in the rear, and in
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 4: seed power with integrated USBA and seaports. Sounds like they're
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 4: going the opposite direction. Didn't they pay attention to making
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 4: us more miserable in order to make more money?
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 9: Jay, Well, you know, but part of this is also
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 9: so they can put in their premium seats, which are
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 9: things that they are just now doing, because they've got
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 9: the assigned seats that are coming up, and they've got
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 9: the premium seats where you can pay to sit in
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 9: a seat that's got a little bit more leg room.
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 9: Because Southwest really learned a couple of years ago that
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 9: they really needed to start paying attention to the fact
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 9: that there's a segment of the traveling pump population that's
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 9: willing to pay above and beyond what they would normally
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 9: pay for an airfare for a more comfortable seat with
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 9: more LEGRAM. And I love the fact they're going to
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 9: assigned seating. That means no more of these wheelchairs out
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 9: the door type of thing where people are just trying
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 9: to get on early. But the idea that you're going
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 9: to have the ability to have a premium seat, which
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 9: is a little bit larger seat, a little bit more legram,
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 9: well I don't think the seat's larger, but you've got
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 9: more legroom, more pitched between rows is going to be
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 9: a great thing. Because Delta and United reported earnings recently
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 9: and they were incredibly strong, and they credited the premium
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 9: seats that they've been selling and how popular they have been,
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 9: and how they continue to make that one of their
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 9: uh primary you know, marketing points. And you know other
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 9: airlines are doing the same thing. They're recognizing that. Look, yeah,
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 9: cramming as many seats onto an aircraft as you can
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 9: is one thing. It's like that double decker aircraft, the
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 9: airbus A three eighty. If it's all coach configuration, no
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 9: business class, no first class, no premium seats. You can
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 9: put eight hundred people on that airplane. Oh lord, I
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 9: think that's tempting fate. But that's another story.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 4: But that's the first reaction I had came from.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 5: You got that right.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 9: So, but you know, when when airlines start putting in
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 9: the first class seats, the business class, and then these
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 9: premium seats, which are the you know, the extra comfortable
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 9: coach seats. Uh, some airlines found out that the coach,
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 9: the premium coach seats were more popular than some of
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 9: their first class seats and some of their business class.
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 9: So we've actually seen airlines over the last couple of
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 9: years removing some of the business class first class seats
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 9: so they can make more room to put more of
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 9: these premium sea seats in because even though they obviously
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 9: sell them at a reduced price versus what they took out,
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 9: they can put in more of those, and they sell
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 9: those out much more frequently than they do the seats
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 9: that many times are just an upgrade for people want
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 9: with their frequent flyer miles, where really, you know, they're
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 9: not getting a huge, uh you know, benefit from a
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 9: revenue standpoint. So yeah, it's fascinating to see this shift
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 9: to premium seats. It doesn't surprise me because as tough
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 9: as it is to endure travel these days, to pay
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 9: a couple extra dollars to sit in those premium seats
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 9: is certainly the way to do.
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 4: It well and almost a requirement considering society's collective girth
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 4: is increasing even as we speak. Got to have room
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 4: to put the person, and I would be willing to
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 4: pay extra for some space if I had a girth issue.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 4: Pause from it will bring Jay Rylive back plenty to
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 4: talk about with his massivenue wreckon river near Dell High
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  Speaker 4: Chuck Ingram on fifty five KOC the talk station. We've
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 4: never been in a cockpit before? A thirty eight fifty
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 4: on cair C DE talk station, returning with iHeartMedia Aviation
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 4: expert Jay Ratliffe. You were one other thing right and
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 4: again not on your list?
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 2: But how.
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 9: Why reference what I send you that's mine?
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 4: No, we'll get to all that. I just like to
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 4: build a fit all the time your show, brother, you lead.
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 4: I don't want to have to go back and lead
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 4: myself to my own devices. I have you as a
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 4: vehicle to keep the conversation going, Jay, you know that's fine.
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 4: Pete Heggs's flight had to divert. They crack. A windshield
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 4: got cracked. Oh, how does the windshield get cracked? Or
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 4: is this a fairly common phenomenon. I'd never read about
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 4: that before.
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 9: Well, you know, when when you're talking about a cockpit windshield,
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 9: you're talking about several different layers of protection. When you
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 9: look at it, because it's multi layered, it's obviously very
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 9: high strength, and there's a lot of times that this
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 9: this acrylic glass, if you will, can't and not shatter.
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 9: It's not like it blows out, but it cracks, and
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 9: when you're in the cockpit when that happens, it sounds
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 9: like a gun went off. But because of the fact
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 9: it's multi layered, a lot of times you've just got
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 9: one layer of those I think three that you have
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 9: there that has been impacted. So what happens is the
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 9: plane normally will make an unscheduled landing. It's not necessarily
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 9: considered an emergency landing. But the land because obviously you're
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 9: worried about the rest of the windshield components, which even
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 9: though they're in separately, contains separately it happens frequently. The
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 9: biggest issue is if they're landing, it could impair the
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 9: pilot's ability to see the runway to an extent. But no,
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 9: I mean it's they happen. And when you look at
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 9: the number of flights that we have in the course
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 9: of a day, a week, a month, a year, I'm
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 9: surprised we don't have more occurrences of that taking place.
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 9: But the pictures when you do a Google image of
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 9: the cockpit windshields when they do this, yeah, it's something
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 9: to look at for sure.
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 4: Fair enough in aviation terms, it's.
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 9: Almost a non event, other than the fact that if
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 9: you're drinking coffee when it starts, you might spill your coffee,
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 9: because you get it's quite a start because you've got
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 9: that cockpit the flight deck that's contained, so anything in
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 9: there it echoes, but at a much louder sound. And
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 9: believe me, the flight crew was made aware of it
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 9: immediately when it happened.
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 4: I imagine. So so in addition to cleaning up the coffee,
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 4: you probably had to hit the restroom and do a
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 4: shorts change. At least I would anyway. But oh, to Boeing,
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 4: it looks like they're on the move in terms of deliveries.
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 4: They're increasing the deliveries behind air Bus, though, but are
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 4: they delivering planes that are safe?
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 9: Jay, We hope so that is the plan, and normally
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 9: Boeing an Airbus it's fifty to fifty, but obviously with
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 9: the production delays that we've been talking about with Boeing,
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 9: that's not been the case for the last several years.
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 9: But Boeing is starting to close the gap. I was
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 9: looking at the numbers for Airbus. Airbus has delivered five
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 9: hundred and sixty eight aircraft to date and Boeing four
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 9: hundred and forty. Now that's a little bit closer than
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 9: what it's been of late. But what's really interesting, Brian,
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 9: and we've talked about this from time to time, is
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 9: the backlog of airplanes. Now, keep in mind, Airbus is
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 9: hoping to deliver about nine hundred airplanes this year. They
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 9: have a backlog at Airbus of eight thousand, seven hundred
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 9: and sixteen jets that they still have to build. Airbus
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 9: has got the eighty seven hundred. Boeing's backlog is sixty
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 9: five hundred and thirty one jets Between them, that's fifteen
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 9: thousand planes that have been ordered that they have yet
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 9: to be built and delivered. And that's why if you
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 9: order a jet today, yeah, it's going to be delivered
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 9: sometime during the next presidential administration, because it's going to
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 9: take a long time. When you're cranking out a thousand
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 9: airplanes a year and you you've got a backlog of
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 9: eighty seven hundred, Yeah, it's going to take some time.
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 9: And that's why a lot of times we talked about
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 9: why do one airline buy another airline because the fact
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 9: that if you want to increase the size of your fleet, yeah,
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 9: you can get in line with everybody else, or you
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 9: can go buy a Spirit or somebody else and immediately
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 9: increase your fleet by a couple hundred aircraft of the
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 9: type that that you want to use. So that's one
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 9: of the reasons a lot of times you'll see those acquisitions.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 9: It's not so much market based, do you like where
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 9: they fly the schedule type of thing. It's the fact
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 9: that you want the equipment that that air airline saw
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 9: or flies. But yeah, Boeing's making up some distance there
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 9: and yeah, we'll see if they can continue to close
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 9: that gap.
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 4: All right, Well, considering the the data of you know,
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 4: signing the contract to purchase and the data delivery decade.
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 4: What of all the technological advances that might occur over
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 4: that period of time, wouldn't you want the most state
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 4: of the art, safest, quietest, most efficient fuel wise aircraft?
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 4: And I got to imagine that type of research and
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 4: development is going on all the time. We've got a
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 4: lot quieter planes out in the world than we used to. So,
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 4: oh yeah, are you getting today? Like if I order
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five, is that the kind of technology
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 4: I'm getting in twenty thirty five when the thing shows up?
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 4: Or do you get the benefit of an improvements you do?
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 9: Because what happens the avionics package is normally one of
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 9: the last things that they're going to be putting in,
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 9: so it's going to be the state of the art
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 9: of what you have. A lot like the power plant
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 9: or the engines that you put on an aircraft or
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 9: are you know, towards the end of the aircraft be
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 9: being produced and installed. So that's one of the things
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 9: that you look at there. So yeah, you would be
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 9: getting the benefit of that. That would be almost insult
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 9: to injury if you had to worry, If you had
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  Speaker 9: to worry about getting an airplane. Yeah that had a
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  Speaker 9: package of you know, ten years old on some of
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  Speaker 9: its components. Yeah, that's not what we're after, and fortunately
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  Speaker 9: that's not the case. But you know, these airplanes, they
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  Speaker 9: continue to get more quiet, they continue to get more
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  Speaker 9: fuel efficient, and they allow the airlines to be more profitable.
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  Speaker 9: And you know, one of the things that blows my
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  Speaker 9: mind to this day is continuing to see airlines like
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  Speaker 9: Delta in United that report quarterly profits of more than
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  Speaker 9: a billion dollars. Delta just last week announced their third
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 9: quarter profit was one point four billion dollars in the
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  Speaker 9: third United was a much less impressive nine hundred million,
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  Speaker 9: I think or so in the third quarter. But Brian,
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  Speaker 9: what just blows my mind is, I remember all the
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  Speaker 9: decades when airlines were losing money like crazy. You couldn't
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  Speaker 9: get Warren Buffett to buy an airline stock if you
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  Speaker 9: dared him. But what happened was airlines have gotten to
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  Speaker 9: the point now where they're using the credit cards and
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  Speaker 9: the other things to help them make this money. From
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  Speaker 9: a revenue standpoint, last year, the big four airlines made
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  Speaker 9: eight billion dollars in profit collectively, those four But when
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  Speaker 9: you look at the boring numbers. What we talk about
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  Speaker 9: the available seat miles per carrier and the revenue generated
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  Speaker 9: per available seat mile. They're actually losing money on the
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  Speaker 9: transportation side of the equation. Think about that. If all
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  Speaker 9: they did was transportation and that was the sole vein
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  Speaker 9: of their revenue stream, they would be losing money in
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  Speaker 9: a lot of it. But because they've got the ancillary
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  Speaker 9: fairs and those credit cards, you're now seeing this revenue
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  Speaker 9: being generated at just an unbelievable pace. And that's why.
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  Speaker 9: You know, everybody's got a credit card that's tied to
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  Speaker 9: miles and things of this nature. Whether or not we
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 9: use them or not another thing. But that's where they're
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  Speaker 9: making this money from other resources in additional revenue streams,
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  Speaker 9: and it's really become a multifaceted business where you've got
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  Speaker 9: these multiple revenue streams that are contributing to these un
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  Speaker 9: I mean, the idea that an airline could make a
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  Speaker 9: billion dollars in profit in a year was unthinkable a
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  Speaker 9: number of years ago. Now you've got United doing it
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  Speaker 9: almost every quarter, as is Delta, and it just it's mind.
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  Speaker 4: Boggling mind modeling. Most notably that it isn't based upon
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  Speaker 4: the core function of their business, which is air trap.
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  Speaker 9: Why do that, Well, you know, any business has multiple
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  Speaker 9: revenue streams they need to. But when you look at
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  Speaker 9: the fact that, hey, we're in business to transport people
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  Speaker 9: and just because of the competition, thank God for the
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  Speaker 9: low cost carriers. That's why anytime we get a low
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  Speaker 9: cost carrier in Cincinnati, and we've had some recent news
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  Speaker 9: with Frontier and Allegiance which has really been exciting at Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 9: I love it because the stronger these low cost carriers are,
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  Speaker 9: the more in check they keep these larger legacy carriers.
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  Speaker 9: And regardless of which city I'm talking to across the country,
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  Speaker 9: when they say, hey, Jay, we just landed a Breeze
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  Speaker 9: or a Legion or a Frontier, I'm thinking, great, make
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  Speaker 9: sure you support them because they're the reason that we
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 9: have these low fares. If these airlines like a Spirit
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  Speaker 9: and others start to disappear from the landscape, we're toast
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  Speaker 9: because these large legacy carriers will start to raise their fares.
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  Speaker 4: As we've seen before, Yeah, the old c and.
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  Speaker 9: That's what Well, we had no competition at the time,
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  Speaker 9: no low cost carriers, so Frontier kind of broke that model.
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  Speaker 9: A number of years ago. Thank God for that, bringing
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  Speaker 9: that one flight from Dayton that they had for seven
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  Speaker 9: years down to Cincinnati to Denver and the next thing
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  Speaker 9: you know, they're going crazy. Here comes Allegiant, here comes
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 9: everybody else. Right, So it's because of that, So please
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 9: continue to support those low cost carriers. And at the
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 9: website at the Cincinnat Airport CBG Airport, you can see
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  Speaker 9: where some of these new low cost carriers are bringing
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  Speaker 9: him back some of their seasonal service, introducing new service,
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  Speaker 9: and it's really some exciting things to see and I'm
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  Speaker 9: thrilled that the community is supporting them as we are.
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  Speaker 4: Jay Ratlif Pause, We're bringing back for a real quick hit.
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  Speaker 4: We'll end on a comical note. And even though it
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  Speaker 4: involves a sad and pathetic passenger and to get a
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 4: hub delay, don't go away right backer. See Deep Talk
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  Speaker 4: Station eight if you want, if you have Karcite Talk
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 4: station closing another Thursday with one more segment with iHeartMedia
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  Speaker 4: aviation expert Jay Rattleff from the Don't Be That Guy file.
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  Speaker 4: We got another passenger attacking crew members. What's this one
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  Speaker 4: all about? Jay?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, this is a don't be that woman story because
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 9: this was a sixty sixty one year old passenger that
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  Speaker 9: was a board of a Last airline's flight. It was
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 9: scheduled to fly from Portland to Dallas. But during the
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  Speaker 9: course of the flight, this woman started acting irrationally and
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 9: flight attendants were trying to come to her aid, well,
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  Speaker 9: that's when she struck them, and that's all it took
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  Speaker 9: that she was immediately restrained. Flight was diverted and you
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  Speaker 9: know it's bad when you have to divert to Boise Idoh,
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  Speaker 9: but that's where they landed to get her off, and
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  Speaker 9: obviously the airline quickly came out saying, you know, charges
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  Speaker 9: could be filed obviously, you know, assaulting a flight attendant,
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  Speaker 9: and also that she'll never be flying the Last Airlines
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  Speaker 9: ever again, which is good. But then back to my
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  Speaker 9: overused comment that she can still fly any other airline
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  Speaker 9: in the country she wants to after assaulting a crew member,
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  Speaker 9: which should not be allowed, but continues to be so.
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  Speaker 9: So one of these Brian, it's going to take something
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  Speaker 9: serious and that's when the airlines are going to decide
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  Speaker 9: that that's when they need to do it, at which
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 9: point we'll be screaming, why did it take this long
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  Speaker 9: for us? To make that kind of a decision.
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  Speaker 4: It's like our lithium battery discussions from time to time. Yeah,
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 4: wait till that happens on an eight hundred passenger airplane
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  Speaker 4: Jay ratlift.
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  Speaker 9: Let's hope, not hope, not lee all.
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  Speaker 4: Right, as we typically do or always do, if we
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  Speaker 4: can fit in hub delays. How's it looking out there
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  Speaker 4: today for air travel one of.
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  Speaker 9: The days of the week we've had to fly. I
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  Speaker 9: think Salt Lake City is about the only hub that
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  Speaker 9: I've been able to find from a weather standpoint that
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 9: could see some delays. Chicago may be late in the day,
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  Speaker 9: but I think that's.
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  Speaker 2: Going to be minimal.
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  Speaker 9: I think it's gonna be Salt Lake and I don't
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 9: think the delays are going to be any more than
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 9: thirty to forty minutes there. So if you picked today,
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 9: you picked a great one, not only from the good
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 9: weather standpoint, but probably a reduction in turbulence, which is
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 9: also nice. But that doesn't mean not to keep seatbelt on,
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  Speaker 9: please do so.
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  Speaker 4: Is you flying fair enough? But what I'm hearing is
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 4: the government shutdown, even though it may impact air traffic,
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 4: controller salaries or something, is not impacting air travel itself.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 4: At least yet.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 9: Last Friday we had thirty nine hundred flights that were delayed,
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 9: and a lot of that's being touted because of the
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 9: shut down blah blah blah blah blah. But again to
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 9: introduce facts to the story, the average number of delays
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 9: we've had this year has been forty one hundred a day.
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 9: We actually had fewer delays on the snapshot I took
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  Speaker 9: on Friday than what we normally have, so that would
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  Speaker 9: lend me to say, yes, we are having pockets of problems.
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  Speaker 9: I won't discount that, but Brian, don't tell me we're
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 9: having a coast to coast problem if we have fewer
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  Speaker 9: delays now per day than what we have normally.
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  Speaker 4: Fair enough, Jay Rayliffe, thank you so much for joining
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  Speaker 4: the program every week. I thoroughly enjoy our exchange and
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  Speaker 4: the information we talk about. And I'll look forward to
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  Speaker 4: next Thursday and another discussion between now and then. Best
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  Speaker 4: of health and love to you, and of course you're
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 4: better half.
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  Speaker 9: Same to you, my friend.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Thanks brother. It's a fifty four right now.
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  Speaker 4: If you get a chance to listen, Dan