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Still In Love With That Old Flame with April Kirkwood · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hi guys, welcome back to I Do Part two. It's
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  Speaker 1: your celebrity mentor Jenfessler, and I am sure you, like me,
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  Speaker 1: have been hooked on the Golden Bachelor and Golden Bachelorette,
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  Speaker 1: amazing people looking for love, and this time on Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: and Paradise they also brought the Goldens. I'm excited because
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  Speaker 1: she was well liked on Paradise even though she wasn't
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  Speaker 1: there for long. But she's still out there dating and
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  Speaker 1: we're going to get into it all. Welcome April Kirkwood.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I love doing the Paradise Show because I got to
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  Speaker 3: really be myself. The first time I was on a Bachelor,
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  Speaker 3: I had just lost somebody, Ralph right about him, so
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't quite in my gig, and I had never
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  Speaker 3: watched the show.
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  Speaker 2: I really came in kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Blindsided due to my own choosing of really not studying
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  Speaker 3: about it. So then I took a couple of years off,
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  Speaker 3: grew into myself and healed, and now you get to
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  Speaker 3: see all those many facets of me, the inner.
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  Speaker 2: Child, the spitfire, the spiritual one.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean definitely, there's definitely was a shift
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  Speaker 1: from watching the Bachelor to Bachelor in Paradise. But can
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  Speaker 1: we start out because it's really really interesting. I think
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  Speaker 1: it could be really insightful for our listeners talking a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about your history in terms of relationships. I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of listeners who have watched the show
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  Speaker 1: know that you've been through it a bit, especially you
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  Speaker 1: lost I want to say, you lost your partner over
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  Speaker 1: two years of twenty one years, over two years ago, right, right,
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  Speaker 1: and you were married before that.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's four years ago now, Okay, So in the
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  Speaker 3: first two years I was numb.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I didn't know what to do. And I'll
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  Speaker 2: I know this is a.
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  Speaker 3: Crazy story, but I learned from that experience there is
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  Speaker 3: no death, and I was not going to get any
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  Speaker 3: We weren't legally married. I wasn't going to get any
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  Speaker 3: legal financial help. Well, lo and behold. I swear to God,
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  Speaker 3: may the gods come down, just to show you what
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  Speaker 3: love does. So I have a psychic friend from Jersey.
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  Speaker 3: She calls me and she said, do you live in
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  Speaker 3: front of big glass lighting doors?
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  Speaker 2: YadA YadA. I go, yeah, She goes, does Ralph.
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  Speaker 3: Wear black all the time? I go, yet, but he's
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  Speaker 3: standing outside the door.
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  Speaker 1: Is that what you mean when you say no death. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I say here, I.
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  Speaker 3: Said, She goes, I don't like him. I don't like
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  Speaker 3: the way he treated you. Blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: I go no, let him in, let him in.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, this was like two weeks after he
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  Speaker 3: had passed, and so he said, I was at the funeral.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't like this, and this is the way certain
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  Speaker 3: people treated you. I've tried to talk to the attorneys.
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  Speaker 3: It's not I can't get to anybody, but I can
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  Speaker 3: tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Where the will is.
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  Speaker 1: Wait. I'm sorry, April. I I just make me understand.
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  Speaker 1: This was you said. This is your husband, right, but
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  Speaker 1: we weren't legally married. I'm sorry, your partner. But coming
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  Speaker 1: back after death to talk.
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  Speaker 3: To you, he was talking through this psychic and he goes.
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  Speaker 3: He calls me Presh, So I knew it was him.
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  Speaker 1: Did you have that tattooed on you somewhere? Yeah? I
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  Speaker 1: read that. Yeah, so adorable. I love it, Presh, and so.
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  Speaker 3: I you know, and I was mad at him because
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  Speaker 3: he really didn't do me well.
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  Speaker 2: So I said, broke, I'm telling him if you were
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  Speaker 2: lying to me again, and he says, no, it's in
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  Speaker 2: something white. I said no. The Ohio houses wife, he
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  Speaker 2: goes no, and.
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  Speaker 3: The lady is saying, I think he means like an
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  Speaker 3: like a wine cooler or a wine you know, refrigerator.
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  Speaker 2: I go, no, that's dark.
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  Speaker 3: Anyhow, make a long story short. I'm like every woman.
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  Speaker 2: I'm laying in bed.
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  Speaker 1: All of a.
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  Speaker 3: Sudden, at three o'clock, I get up. I go out
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  Speaker 3: in the garage. His file cabinet is there next to
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  Speaker 3: our white freezer.
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  Speaker 2: I pull out everything, get out. I find all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of nice things, and I also find the will. No way,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not been changed. And he was madly loved
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  Speaker 2: with me. He has Louis bodies.
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  Speaker 1: That's how he passed. Yeah, and so so hard.
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  Speaker 3: That makes people angry mad. You know, I took his
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  Speaker 3: car away from him. He thought I deserted him. So
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  Speaker 3: he had a lot of stuff going on mentally, and you.
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  Speaker 1: Had and you yeah, I have some relatives that are
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  Speaker 1: going through that right now. Not easy. But yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: were married before that. You have two kids, right, you're
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  Speaker 1: maried right right twice before from when I remember right, yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you belong to my family, not not me yet.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not proud of it.
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  Speaker 1: But what I will. Why not? Why not? I think
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  Speaker 1: you should be proud of it.
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  Speaker 3: I have no regrets. Each man brought me so much.
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  Speaker 3: Yes they were a pain in the butt.
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  Speaker 2: Yes I was.
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  Speaker 1: They always are.
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  Speaker 3: Yes I wasn't evolved the way I am now. But
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  Speaker 3: each person opened doors to me that I have cherished.
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  Speaker 3: And really love never dies. People say, oh, I still
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  Speaker 3: love them, and I still love them. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: if they all lined up right here, even Billy, the
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  Speaker 3: one with the children, he'll come to Dana in dreams.
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  Speaker 3: My daughter sees them, I don't, and she'll say, Billy,
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  Speaker 3: You'll say, I'm worried about your mother, you know, Oh
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  Speaker 3: my gosh, and you know her aunt, my aunt and
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  Speaker 3: uncle hooy love, they're gonna die soon. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what she's gonna do. You better take and listen to her.
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  Speaker 3: She knows what she's talking about. Because I'm kind of
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  Speaker 3: woo woo, you know, and I'm into all of this
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  Speaker 3: stuff as well as a therapist.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of bring the soul aspect into it.
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  Speaker 1: Tell I know I can feel that, but you I,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. It strikes me that you would say
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  Speaker 1: that you're not proud because it's also a brave thing
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  Speaker 1: to keep, especially now right to have lost someone, divorce someone, No,
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  Speaker 1: but not only bounced back. But I don't know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching. I'm a viewer just like everyone. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like you're thriving.
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  Speaker 3: What I did by accident. So I called one of
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  Speaker 3: my You're gonna laugh about this. So I called one
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  Speaker 3: of my friends. I said, let's clean the house in
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  Speaker 3: Florida because I just moved to New York. Okay, So anyhow,
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  Speaker 3: she does this clean blah blah blah. She calls me later,
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  Speaker 3: it's all cleansed. So wait a minute. I get the
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  Speaker 3: other psychic from Jersey. She's doing my cars. Since I
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  Speaker 3: moved here, I only do it once. It sounds like
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  Speaker 3: I do it a lot, but I go. So she goes,
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Ralph is bound.
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  Speaker 2: He's screaming. He can't get out of Florida. I bound him.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, how could you. No one should be bound
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  Speaker 1: in Florida. Although I guess if you're gonna get bound,
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  Speaker 1: it's a good place to be.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he can't get out of the house. I feel
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  Speaker 3: sorry for the new owners. So so it never stops.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but listen, I mean, I have to think it's
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  Speaker 1: fabulous and I hope, like I'm on my first marriage,
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  Speaker 1: but still at age fifty seven, I want to think
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  Speaker 1: that if something God forbid a million times were to happen,
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  Speaker 1: I would keep looking for love. And I just think
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  Speaker 1: it's inspirational to see you do that. And I want
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  Speaker 1: to get to some of the specifics of the show
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  Speaker 1: because no, no, please, I just so I know that
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  Speaker 1: our listeners are going to want to hear a lot
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  Speaker 1: about the specifics. For instance, the young man. I know
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  Speaker 1: you've probably spoken about this ad nauseum, Jonathan, who you
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  Speaker 1: gave your rose to, So would you just tell us
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about what you were thinking in that moment. I,
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  Speaker 1: personally watching it, thought it was such a kind and
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  Speaker 1: generous move to make, and I really appreciated it. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if everyone did, but I did. I thought
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  Speaker 1: that was just a fabulous, classy move to make. But
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  Speaker 1: tell me, maybe your your thoughts and if you had
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  Speaker 1: any regrets about it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little bit like Kathy. We kind of have
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  Speaker 2: no filter and we.
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  Speaker 1: Go by this love Kathy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's hilarious. So I'm standing there, I'm looking at
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  Speaker 3: these guys. I don't like any of them, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: looking at his face like I would my sons.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought, and I was a guidance.
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  Speaker 3: Counselor and a dean of schools for a long time,
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  Speaker 3: and I thought, what so I'm a I help kids.
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  Speaker 3: So I said, what can I do to help this boy?
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing here for me. I'm going to give it
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  Speaker 3: to him.
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  Speaker 1: What a beautiful thing to do.
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  Speaker 3: And I did it in your Bravo, you know, they
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  Speaker 3: cut so much. And then he and I started to
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  Speaker 3: pray for him on the set, and I think everybody
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  Speaker 3: was just like and he started to cry. And after
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  Speaker 3: when there was a moment you know in privacy that
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure it was filmed, but he said, I was
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  Speaker 3: more affected by what you said than what you did.
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  Speaker 3: And if I had to tell you what I said,
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  Speaker 3: I don't even remember, because I remember.
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  Speaker 1: You said something to the effect of I want to
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  Speaker 1: give you the chance that others may not have given
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  Speaker 1: you yet, or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Then I went home and I thought, why did I
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  Speaker 2: like him so much? What did I see in him?
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  Speaker 2: He did dress and look like Ralph.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, so my attention had he been.
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  Speaker 1: So Ralph must have been handsome, because I thought Jonathan
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan was very handsome.
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  Speaker 3: And Jonathan's a player, and Yelp was a player. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I could identify. But underneath the players, they're really.
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  Speaker 1: Insecure, right, they always are right right.
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  Speaker 3: The ones who are the worst, the narcissists and all
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  Speaker 3: of that kind of agenda, they really have such low
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  Speaker 3: self esteem, like they're afraid to attach.
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  Speaker 2: They're afraid I need you. Don't leave me. If you stay,
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  Speaker 2: you might hurt me if you fall, be lonely.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you felt that coming out of Jonathan?
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  Speaker 3: I felt something in him. He didn't really divulge because
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  Speaker 3: it was all supposed to be fun. And then I
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  Speaker 3: think he got a little afraid of me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but why, please don't tell me that
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  Speaker 1: that was what I've Actually I felt like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know when all those kids sort of looked at each
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  Speaker 1: other like, oh my god. I mean, it was so
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  Speaker 1: clear to me, and I feel like anybody with the
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  Speaker 1: brain would see that you were being so loving and motherly.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I felt like he was like my son, or I
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  Speaker 3: felt like he was like Ralph that was dead. But
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  Speaker 3: if one had to do it again, I'd say come back.
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  Speaker 1: I mean to me that right, So, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think maybe they were just being silly, but I did
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  Speaker 1: see a lot of like, oh, like you know, there
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  Speaker 1: is a lot of people out rage.
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  Speaker 2: Well when they're young.
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  Speaker 3: Well, because for many people, this is all about a
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  Speaker 3: lot of not all this is a lot about the game,
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  Speaker 3: and staying in my life has never been a game.
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  Speaker 3: I don't take my life lightly. I don't take my
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  Speaker 3: soul lightly. My I'm very selfish with my soul. I'm
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  Speaker 3: very selfish. I don't even want to get close to
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  Speaker 3: somebody kissing and hugging who I have.
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  Speaker 2: Low frequency or low energy. I I know no money
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  Speaker 2: in the world is worth my soul. Amen, And my
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  Speaker 2: best friend is my soul. Who am I taking?
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  Speaker 1: I have a few best friends for my soul. But
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about so which I love that
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  Speaker 1: You're not unless you feel it in your soul, you're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna be interested in getting. But tell us a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about your dating life. Tell us about because
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  Speaker 1: I've seen a couple of fabulous videos of use talking
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  Speaker 1: about that. One was hilarious. So he went on, you
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  Speaker 1: went on a date with the man and you put
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  Speaker 1: on your heels and you get out and he's in
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  Speaker 1: his hiking boots. He said, he said he wanted to
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  Speaker 1: go for a walk and a drink. And he gets
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  Speaker 1: out and he meant like some hike And it still.
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  Speaker 2: Made me walk.
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  Speaker 3: I had blisters and I have this right undressed on
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  Speaker 3: And then another guy.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't tell you.
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  Speaker 3: Guys this one yet. So we do a face thing
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  Speaker 3: and he's wealthy. He lives on Long Island and he
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  Speaker 3: lives in Connecticut. It so I'm telling him about myself.
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  Speaker 3: It went good so that I didn't have a date
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  Speaker 3: with him that weekend. I didn't want him to feel
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  Speaker 3: like I was out dating. So I send him a
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  Speaker 3: picture of my grandchildren at the American Doll place in
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  Speaker 3: the city.
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  Speaker 2: And I and one was with me with Barbie. I go,
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  Speaker 2: I love Barbie. He goes, why don't you just come
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  Speaker 2: up here and be my personal Barbie.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, ew ew, cringe ew what did the
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  Speaker 1: kids say? It gives me?
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, no, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And so how do I meet these guys? How are
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  Speaker 1: you like actually finding them?
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  Speaker 2: I am on a dating app and it's.
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  Speaker 1: Called bumble My allowed to bumble?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, So anyhow I.
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  Speaker 3: Met this one guy and I am dating him, and
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  Speaker 3: he touched my heart more than anyone in my whole life.
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  Speaker 3: So I send him a picture of my granddaughter and
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  Speaker 3: I or something because.
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  Speaker 2: I, once again I couldn't go out. I was busy.
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  Speaker 2: And he says about the little one, and this is true,
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  Speaker 2: you and her are star seeds. You're not from here,
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  Speaker 2: are you?
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like keep you right up your alley.
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  Speaker 2: He was. And then and then it gets better.
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  Speaker 3: I said, you know, I need a new plastic surgeon
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  Speaker 3: here for you know, kind of little things that I
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  Speaker 3: get done. And he said, oh, I have the best one.
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  Speaker 3: Let me text you, and I was like, And then
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  Speaker 3: we went out to dinner at Piremont. I think it's
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  Speaker 3: what it's called. I'm just learning all this stuff. And
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  Speaker 3: I swear to God, we're sitting there. Wait, we're at
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  Speaker 3: the table outside and these couple come on. They go,
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  Speaker 3: You're the most beautiful husband and wife ever. And I
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  Speaker 3: looked at each other and I thought that was weird.
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  Speaker 3: And then we go for coffee and another couple come
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  Speaker 3: and go.
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  Speaker 2: God, you make a beautiful couple.
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  Speaker 1: Listen. I'm sure. I am sure, though if I'm a
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  Speaker 1: betting girl that you get that a lot. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder actually sometimes about you, because you're you are
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  Speaker 1: so beautiful. If that ever does even get in the
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  Speaker 1: way if men objectify you a little bit or see
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  Speaker 1: you and think one thing, and that is.
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  Speaker 2: The problem with me. I am a dichotomy. But that's
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  Speaker 2: also a gift.
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  Speaker 3: So if I get a bad boy that thinks I'm
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  Speaker 3: just going to be eye candy, and then I touch
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  Speaker 3: his heart, then then it makes it better. Or if
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  Speaker 3: I get somebody who well usually they are about the looks.
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  Speaker 3: I hate to say that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I listen, I agree. I think I think
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  Speaker 1: that is the first thing with men. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it's the only thing, but I think that's which would
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  Speaker 1: make well, which would work for you, my friends, I
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  Speaker 1: would think that would draw them in pretty easily. What
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  Speaker 1: are your parameters though, when you're looking at them, Like,
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  Speaker 1: if you're on one of these dating apps, do you
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  Speaker 1: have age range? Do you have a physical type? Nothing?
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  Speaker 3: Now, if I could go back to be with Frankie Valley,
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  Speaker 3: would you know, I had to say.
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  Speaker 1: No, I was gonna let you bring that up.
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  Speaker 3: If I could go back right if I could go
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  Speaker 3: right now to his house and he's ninety something and
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  Speaker 3: he's frail and he's not healthy, I would willing He
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  Speaker 3: has a wife and all that she doesn't like me
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  Speaker 3: very much, but I would willingly help him die and
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  Speaker 3: walk away with nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Wait what say that? I'm sorry, excuse me? Say what
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  Speaker 1: what did you just say? If I had getting good April.
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  Speaker 2: He has a wife, so this will never happen.
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  Speaker 1: I understand.
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  Speaker 2: If I got a call right now and they said,
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  Speaker 2: mister Valley's saying your name and and and can you
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: get here? I would fly there.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: I don't even wouldn't even take clothes. Probably, I would
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: get there so fast, and I would willingly do whatever
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: it took.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: To help him pass. And if I had time, I
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: would bring in a lot of spiritual things.
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  Speaker 1: You mean do I just want to clarify this first
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: of all, because for those of you who are listening
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: who don't know what we're talking about, if you read
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: April's book, you would know. But April had a pretty
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: long term relationship, thank youll. I think it started in
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: maybe a darker way. I don't know. I remember, I
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: don't know what he was thinking.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: It's his seventies too. People didn't cart it.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: There were no computers, you were very young, right fact,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: there were no Google apps or anything.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Well they had it. Sounds like you had a very
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: passionate relationship. But you're saying that even today. I know
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: that his wife, from what I remember, was only a
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: couple of years older than you, and you were very
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: young when you guys were dating them, and so.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: He and I don't think he loves me at all
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: compared to how I love him. I mean I started
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: to love him at six seven years old.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: You feel like he was like, well, you've had great loves,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: but he was one of the great loves of your life.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I guess yes. And I would help him do everything.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: If I was with him.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: There would be soft music, there would be frequencies, there
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: would be beds that that that that changed the chemistry
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: of your body.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I would have people because he is.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: So when you say help him die, you're not talking
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: about assisted help.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Like, oh no, I mean I would help him on
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: his No, no, no, you're not gonna I don't think
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: he's gonna get better.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Let's put it that way. I think in the last
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: stages of his of.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: His journey here, and I would be honored to persevere
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: with whatever that brought me.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing. Do you feel like and you feel
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: that way because you said you have love for all
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: of all of the men you've been in love with. Really,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: to a certain extent, I'm just there. It's probably almost impossible.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: But in terms of like who was the one that
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: you think, oh, God, I don't know.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I really love they all like Billy brought me my children.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: And when he was dying he wanted We were not
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: together at the time, and he said, can I come home?
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: And I said, yes, you can come home and show
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I never got over you.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I said, I know, I go find me next lifetime
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: and we'll get it together.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Oh that's a nice thing to say.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: When he passed, his family did a whole funeral up
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: north for me and my family. So, and you know,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: love is just might grow upon it. I get better.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: What do you feel like you've learned, even, let's say,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: from the Frankie Valley relationship, what can.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: You I learned well since that time. I have always
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: believed in past lives. I think Frankie Valley and I've
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: known each other for many lifetimes. In fact, that one
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: person did a regression on me and said he was
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: a big shot in Egypt and he had, you know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: a harem of women, but you were the private girl
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: that he never let anyone else have. So I can
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: imagine me as a twelve year old growing up thinking
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: that I will always adore him, I will always listen
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: to him, I will always beckon his call.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I will always be at his at his service, and that's.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: How I do you feel like you? Because obviously you're
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: going to meet someone again, and I'm if I'm again
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: a betting girl and betting you're going to have another
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: great love. Do you think you'd want to get married again?
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I would love to get married.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I believe in marriage, and I think it's a commitment
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: that I really don't need that commitment because if I
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: love you, but I would like them to be that committed.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: And you know what I mean, the commitment on my
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: part because I think women are committed.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: It's so interesting because a lot of times my friends
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: and I have a lot of single friends. And I'm
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: fifty seven, but we literally last night, I was out
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: to dinner and talking about if something happened, if I
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: found myself singly again, what I want to get married
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: or would my friends want to It's different when you're older.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: You don't feel that that pressure.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I like being by myself. No death. There's so many
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: people in this room right now?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, really, hello hello everyone.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, dogs start barking, things start happening.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, oh my god, Well listen I want
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: to get your best advice for our listeners about dating again,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: opening up looking for love the second because that's our show, right,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: that's what we do. I do Part two. But you've
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: been through it, so if you could give just a
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: just to give me a quick statement in terms of
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: what you could how you could help our listeners find love.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, First of all, you have to know you have
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: done nothing wrong. The worst case scenario still led you
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: to a deeper sense of self.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Do your work.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: You cannot give to another what you don't have within yourself.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: When you are healed and love yourself and most of
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: your issues, whether we like it or not, come from.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Mom and dad in early childhood.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: It's not someone triggering you. It's when you get upset,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: and it happens to all of us.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: It's just the.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Calling of your soul saying there's more healing to do, honey,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Open yourself up to healing yourself, raise your frequency, and
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: you will attract what you are. If you don't like
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: what you're attracting, then change what you're sending.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: That's I love and only love to everybody.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's I think that that is I think that's fabulous.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I hope you guys, because it's April has Obviously you're
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a very spiritual woman, so I have to sort of
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I just almost want to dumb it down for myself
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: a little bit as you're speaking. But I'm trying to
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: hang on to like these kernels of like if you
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: see something that you cannot.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: On yourself, you cannot give to another what you don't
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: have yourself.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: That's it. Okay, I can take that. Tell me about now,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna we're gonna unfortunately, we're gonna have to
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: wrap it up, but we cannot. I cannot let you
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: go with talking about the new season of the Bachelor.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping that it works out.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I'm hold, what do you think? What do you think?
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: What do you think of Mel? What do you are
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you going to be watching?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: You know, I haven't.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: I haven't watched yet, to be honest, I've been busy.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: I'm writing a book and I'm doing all this other stuff.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: And I think that.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Mel has a lot to show himself from the bad
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: press he's gotten.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: And I do think it's a cultural issue.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to run around this that men do
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: who are successful and have enough money, like eye Candy
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: shame on them. If you can't see my soul or
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: you can't see who I am, I wouldn't.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Want that that kind of person.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I love that well. Would you consider doing another season?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I would love to do it.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Would you want to be the Golden Bachelorette?
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I would love to do that. But see, I would
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: have fun with the guys. I would tease them, I
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: would turn them around.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine they're not going to ask you. I
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: think that that would be Oh my god. Who wouldn't
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: want to watch that?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Heaven? And I would ask them questions, what do you
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: see when you see me? What do I see when
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I see you?
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: And also I believe girls in the two minute hug.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: When you go in to hug a man, sit there,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: let your hearts connect. When you're married, when they come home,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: don't just go bye, I'm off to the gym.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Take two minutes. Let your heart, let your.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Energy, let your frequency connect. If you haven't connected all day,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: that will make or break a relationship.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I love that advice. I don't remember the last time
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I gave my husband a two minute hug. Maybe that's
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: what you say is a long time. Two seconds is
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: a long time. We're busy. Yeah it is.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm all about hugging. And also if they
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: can't go slow and respect you and respect your pace,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: let it go. It wasn't meant for you. There's something else.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I tell my my daughter specifically that all the time.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Of course, no rush, no pressure, and no rush. Right,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: all right, well, listen, this is so this is so great.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I love you. You're a doll. By the way, Leslie
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: and Teresa, we have mutual friends. There are friends of mine,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: and they told me the most delightful things about you,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: how wonderful you are and warm and spiritual.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I will do anything for those girls.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: They're the best. I love them.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Leslie's a lot like me. We've had a lot of
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: issues and relationships.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I I am.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: They're a sugar, Naisa.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I hope you're not not the only people listening who knows.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I know exactly what that means. You're a doll. I
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: would love to have you back sometime. I wish you
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: all the best.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: And you as well.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you your husband. I well, two minutes you
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: said two home minutes, right, okay, I'll put the timer on. Fine,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Thank you, April, Thank you so much. God bless you,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Please be well. Bye. So are you ready to date?
• 26:12
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• 26:15
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• 26:17
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• 26:20
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• 26:24
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