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- 1:51Speaker 4: So what do you think makes an effective CEO in
- 1:54Speaker 4: today's landscape?
- 1:57Speaker 1: Dude? Well, I've found the thing I've found hardest and
- 2:06Speaker 1: most impactful or most accelerating when I do it well,
- 2:11Speaker 1: which I don't do as often as I should. Is
- 2:15Speaker 1: communication is communication, and especially in our context, as you
- 2:20Speaker 1: described right, there's languages, there's cultures, there's time zones. I
- 2:26Speaker 1: was working for this one hundred person German company and
- 2:30Speaker 1: I'm now part of a three thousand person multinational company.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Like I never traveled out of my office before, I
- 2:36Speaker 1: never spoke to anybody who who wasn't German before but
- 2:39Speaker 1: suddenly now I'm in this. So being able to communicate effectively,
- 2:46Speaker 1: motivate effectively, correct effectively thousands of people across multiple countries,
- 2:55Speaker 1: multiple cultures, multiple experience frames, is the number one accelerant
- 3:03Speaker 1: to performance in that company?
- 3:05Speaker 2: Is that the most unique trade that has led to
- 3:08Speaker 2: success for you?
- 3:09Speaker 1: Right?
- 3:09Speaker 2: Because when you're talking about you have to show somebody
- 3:12Speaker 2: who's selling the company that you're the best person. So
- 3:15Speaker 2: there's something unique about what you're doing. Is it the
- 3:18Speaker 2: communication or is there something that a gift that you
- 3:20Speaker 2: have just been given with that is like, I'm that guy.
- 3:24Speaker 1: To do this, I would There's two things I don't
- 3:30Speaker 1: I say, there's two things I don't know that I'm
- 3:32Speaker 1: brilliant at anything. I am extremely resilient, like life has
- 3:37Speaker 1: made me, you know, very very resilient. So I'm against
- 3:42Speaker 1: my peers and other people, I see, I'm more able
- 3:44Speaker 1: to wake up tomorrow after a terrible today and get
- 3:48Speaker 1: right back at it like quicker than most you know,
- 3:51Speaker 1: most other people. And I think that's how a positive
- 3:53Speaker 1: drag on the company.
- 3:54Speaker 4: Too.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Bad things happen in business, Bad things happen in the company.
- 3:57Speaker 1: So when my team or my organization know that today
- 4:01Speaker 1: was bad and they see me bounce back tomorrow and say, Okay,
- 4:04Speaker 1: you know it's going to be fine, let's go again,
- 4:06Speaker 1: I think I've been able to get us out of
- 4:08Speaker 1: the down moments pretty quickly. So I think that's one thing.
- 4:12Speaker 1: And the other thing I tried very hard to do
- 4:16Speaker 1: is translate the aspiration of the company into something that's
- 4:20Speaker 1: meaningful for employees, right because I just don't fundamentally believe
- 4:24Speaker 1: that employees come to work for the company that unless
- 4:28Speaker 1: maybe well people like Google and Facebook a few years ago,
- 4:32Speaker 1: that was the tone that people are so proud that
- 4:35Speaker 1: they work for Google and Facebook. That's not really the
- 4:38Speaker 1: case at Fotira, like me explaining to three thousand people
- 4:43Speaker 1: come to work because we're trying to be a four
- 4:44Speaker 1: billion euro company, and nobody leaves their kids in the
- 4:48Speaker 1: morning to come to do that, especially when they don't
- 4:51Speaker 1: have you know, they don't have to gain what I
- 4:54Speaker 1: have to gain. So what I've tried hard to do
- 4:57Speaker 1: is is figure out how to talk about the we
- 5:00Speaker 1: do need to become a Forbulion your company in a
- 5:02Speaker 1: way that you will care about and will make you
- 5:06Speaker 1: motivated and excited to come to work, and I spend
- 5:08Speaker 1: a lot of time on adjusting the message or adjusting
- 5:13Speaker 1: what I'm going to say or write or present so
- 5:16Speaker 1: that it lands on employees like that.
- 5:18Speaker 4: So how do you look at other asset classes, whether
- 5:21Speaker 4: it's for business or your own personal investment like real
- 5:24Speaker 4: estate or stocks or crypto? Like, you know, how do
- 5:27Speaker 4: you indulge in that? Or what's your thoughts on those
- 5:30Speaker 4: other asset classes?
- 5:32Speaker 1: I so, personally, I only invest in things I know
- 5:37Speaker 1: and understand. I always say that, right, So I know tech,
- 5:40Speaker 1: so most of my investments in tech. I know property,
- 5:44Speaker 1: most of my investments in property. And then there's like
- 5:45Speaker 1: a small handful of things I did because I was curious.
- 5:49Speaker 1: So I like the person, I'm invested in a in
- 5:51Speaker 1: a champagne brand because I'm just you know, that would
- 5:55Speaker 1: be cool. There's a small handful of those things, but
- 5:57Speaker 1: tech and property. I didn't do the crypto thing at all.
- 6:02Speaker 1: I still don't a crypto.
- 6:06Speaker 4: So property, like talk about that, what's your philosophy on
- 6:11Speaker 4: now you buying houses or commercial real estate?
- 6:14Speaker 1: Like? What's your So what I did for a long
- 6:17Speaker 1: time was just as we were getting cash, my wife
- 6:22Speaker 1: and I were getting cash. We owned every house we
- 6:25Speaker 1: lived in and we've continued to own every house we
- 6:27Speaker 1: ever lived into. That was one way. And then as
- 6:29Speaker 1: we saw deals opportunistically, we bought places and we rent
- 6:32Speaker 1: them and we rent them out, and we were quite
- 6:36Speaker 1: liquid buyers, so we were able to get good, you know,
- 6:38Speaker 1: good good deals because we would close quickly. So that
- 6:42Speaker 1: is one strategy. Now, you know, one of my well
- 6:45Speaker 1: my two best friends are developers, so they're always out
- 6:50Speaker 1: finding properties to buy and adding a lot of value
- 6:52Speaker 1: through doing development. So I'm like cash investor along a
- 6:56Speaker 1: passive cash investor alongside them, like they really know what
- 6:59Speaker 1: they're doing. So I'm just a cash investor. There does
- 7:02Speaker 1: your wife working inside of the business. She works in
- 7:04Speaker 1: the foundation. So we've set up a foundation, which is
- 7:08Speaker 1: that's the vehicle through which we do our community work
- 7:11Speaker 1: back in the community. So she runs she runs that.
- 7:15Speaker 2: What I'm thinking is, like everybody talks about generational wealth
- 7:18Speaker 2: and you know, having a family as part of that, right,
- 7:21Speaker 2: creating sustainability. But when you talk about financial freedom, I
- 7:25Speaker 2: wonder for you, is it a number or is it
- 7:27Speaker 2: a mindset? More So, at this level.
- 7:30Speaker 1: It's not a number, because how do I explain this?
- 7:34Speaker 1: This my life, My life now is well beyond the
- 7:40Speaker 1: wildest of my wildest dream growing up. So to sit
- 7:43Speaker 1: here and say, you know, the number of which life
- 7:47Speaker 1: would be good would be like ridiculous, such a ridiculous
- 7:50Speaker 1: thing for someone like me to say, coming from where
- 7:52Speaker 1: I come from. I'm I'm still competing with myself and
- 7:59Speaker 1: the prize in this in the sport I mean, is
- 8:00Speaker 1: it happens to be money, like it happens to be
- 8:02Speaker 1: exits which attract money. So I'm still trying to see,
- 8:08Speaker 1: can I do a thought bit? Can I build a
- 8:10Speaker 1: company to four? But like that would be pretty cool
- 8:12Speaker 1: to do that, and with that comes money. When I
- 8:16Speaker 1: think about my life after working, I just think about time,
- 8:19Speaker 1: like just having the thing I don't have at the moment.
- 8:23Speaker 1: I have any time at the moment, So I don't
- 8:25Speaker 1: look forward to money or luxury. I just look forward
- 8:28Speaker 1: to waking up in the morning and thinking I might
- 8:31Speaker 1: want my dogs for two hours instead of one like that.
- 8:33Speaker 1: That's that is the thing I'm ultimately trying to attain,
- 8:37Speaker 1: just getting back total time and freedom. I think that's
- 8:40Speaker 1: what wealth is. Time and choice. That to me is
- 8:43Speaker 1: what wealth really is.
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