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Gordie Chiesa Hour on the NBA Playoffs, Wemby playing in game 3 (?), AJ Dybantsa declaring for the draft + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Peace out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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  Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
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  Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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  Speaker 3: Let's not get crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Come for the hoops talk, stay for his list of
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  Speaker 2: the day a list today. Here's oc with basketball sob
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  Speaker 2: on Gordy Chiasa on the Sean O'Connell show.
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  Speaker 4: Our friends over at the Ladin Industries bring you our
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  Speaker 4: conversation with Gordy Chiasa. We're lucky enough to have him
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  Speaker 4: for the next hour or so here on the Sean
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  Speaker 4: O'Connell show. And then after Gordy we'll be Alex Jensen,
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  Speaker 4: Utah basketball head coach. So we are jam packed. Weddell
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  Speaker 4: joins us an hour number three plenty left to get
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  Speaker 4: to here. Gordy, welcome into the studio once again.
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing well?
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: If you're watching on YouTube, Gordy is wearing his sweater.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone always compliments this particular Hounds Tooth plaid sweater.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's just a great look.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy, worry about you? I really I worry about you.
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  Speaker 3: Maya who no one cares about my sweater.
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  Speaker 4: I would not mention it if it were not for
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  Speaker 4: the fact that people always text in and say, wow,
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  Speaker 4: Gordy's got swag again today.
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  Speaker 3: You have some imagination. But thank you. Thanks for the kudos.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate and so does my wife also.
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  Speaker 4: All right, well, whoever in the house has the best
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  Speaker 4: fashioned sense deserves their credit.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Let's talk about this.
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  Speaker 4: We'll start in the Western Conference, the playoff bracket as
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  Speaker 4: it shapes up right now. If you haven't been watching
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  Speaker 4: NBA playoffs because he been too dialed in on the
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  Speaker 4: Stanley Cup playoffs or too dialed in on the NFL
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  Speaker 4: pre draft process, I fully understand. Right now is a
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  Speaker 4: hard time to take in everything right now. Oklahoma City
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  Speaker 4: is up to nothing on the Suns. Okay, so he's
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  Speaker 4: looked pretty dominant in that one. The Lakers are up
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  Speaker 4: to nothing on the Rockets, Nuggets. Timberwolves is tied at
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  Speaker 4: a game apiece, and Spurs Trailblazers is tied at a
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  Speaker 4: game of peace. Let's start with that one because the
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  Speaker 4: Spurs are in a situation right now where they're managing
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  Speaker 4: the concussion, the injury of Victor wembin Yama. They're a
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  Speaker 4: young team that's on the rise. They're taking on another
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  Speaker 4: team that I don't think people have a lot of
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  Speaker 4: belief is going to end up deep in these Western
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  Speaker 4: Conference playoffs. But the Blazers managed to steal one.
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  Speaker 3: Very much, and they did it because they really played
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  Speaker 3: so hard and Scoot Henderson had an absolutely great game
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  Speaker 3: with his thirty one points and that was a difference maker.
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  Speaker 3: And the Trailblazers are a team on the rise, and
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  Speaker 3: it's very similar to the JS who they're gonna try
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  Speaker 3: to catch hopefully by next season. Where the Trailblazers the
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  Speaker 3: year before they were year before and eight they didn't
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  Speaker 3: make the playoffs, but they won thirty six games, and
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  Speaker 3: this year they did make the playoffs, and now it's
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  Speaker 3: one to one, and that even turned home to Rip City.
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  Speaker 3: The biggest fact during the game right now is Victor
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  Speaker 3: Wembyamba only played twelve minutes. We're showing he went down hard.
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  Speaker 3: We his hit his face on that floor, in his
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  Speaker 3: head and it was really a very trying moment for
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  Speaker 3: everybody that enjoys watching him play. Now he's in a
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  Speaker 3: protocol as far as concussion, so probably which he has
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  Speaker 3: certain criteria you have to meet by the team doctors.
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  Speaker 3: I'm by the elite doctor. So the Spurs play Friday
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  Speaker 3: night versus the Trailblazers. He's on the trip right now, Sean.
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  Speaker 3: I'm assuming now that he won't pass the protocol and
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  Speaker 3: hold him out, but he'll play game four on Sunday. Probably.
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  Speaker 4: How different is it when you are in a game
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  Speaker 4: and you have to adjust to the absence of a
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  Speaker 4: Victor wembin Yama unexpectedly because he leaves after an injury,
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  Speaker 4: versus when you are, you know, given a couple of
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  Speaker 4: days notice. At least, Hey, guys, this game we're going
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  Speaker 4: to be without Victor. He's still in concussion protocol. I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna need the rest of you to step up. I
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  Speaker 4: imagine watching him go down and go out and trot
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  Speaker 4: into the locker room is something that has a huge
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  Speaker 4: effect mentally on the players, probably even on the coaches,
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  Speaker 4: and contributed in some way to Portland being able to
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  Speaker 4: steal that game. But now that the Spurs know Victor
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  Speaker 4: Wenbinnaba's potentially out, is it easier to adjust.
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  Speaker 3: To Yes, it's easier, and that's more emotional the words this,
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  Speaker 3: this is his teammates, his brothers suddenly one of your
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  Speaker 3: guys goes down with him with an injury, and at
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  Speaker 3: that moment you're not sure what it is and it
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  Speaker 3: takes you an x amount of minutes to regroup mentally
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  Speaker 3: to get back into the flow of it. In the meantime,
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  Speaker 3: the Trail Blazers, who played a great game throughout throughout
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  Speaker 3: the game, were able to hold off the Spurs. So
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  Speaker 3: now Luke Cornette, who did play well in replacement of
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  Speaker 3: Victor Wenbiyama, he'll be the starter and he'll he'll do
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  Speaker 3: he'll do a good job up for them as far
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  Speaker 3: as being a screener, a timely hustle player, does a
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  Speaker 3: good job defensively, as far as closing out to the corner.
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  Speaker 3: He's not the same rim protector and that was a
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  Speaker 3: big factor where the where Danny Avdia was penetrating minus
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  Speaker 3: Victor went beyond it in the game. He's able to
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  Speaker 3: get in the paint and live there and make make
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  Speaker 3: a kickout passes or rimmed attacks and that was a
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  Speaker 3: factor in the game.
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  Speaker 1: To drive that point home. The Spurs.
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  Speaker 4: In that second game against the Portland Traiblazers, they blocked
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  Speaker 4: five shots. Portland blocked eleven shots. Five shots is a single.
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  Speaker 4: That's just Victor Webbinama's night. In most nights, that's correct,
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  Speaker 4: and that's what happens here. It's so fractional.
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  Speaker 3: Just like and he mentioned about hockey, every possession matters
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  Speaker 3: in the NFL in the red zone, that's an understabment.
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  Speaker 3: Every possession doesn't matter. As far as execution and basketball,
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  Speaker 3: it's the same thing the under five minute mark of
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  Speaker 3: every playoff game. If the game is tight, meaning five
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  Speaker 3: points or less, you can't waste possessquestions and you've got
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  Speaker 3: to get the ball up at the basket, whether you
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  Speaker 3: miss it or not, it has to be a chance
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  Speaker 3: for an offensive rebound. And that's why the Portland Traders
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  Speaker 3: were able to show a gritty victory on the road.
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  Speaker 3: Now the Spurs will show their heart next game. So
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  Speaker 3: now that it's one to one, the Spurs, I'm expecting
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  Speaker 3: are going to bounce back. Stephan Castle's very good, DeAndre
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  Speaker 3: Fox is tremendous, Devon Vassel, Harrison Bonds, all these guys,
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  Speaker 3: Luke Connette, the six men of the Keldon Johnson They're
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  Speaker 3: gonna respond. So it's going to be absolutely a tough
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  Speaker 3: game on Friday Night. Whoever wins that game puts them
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  Speaker 3: up to to one. It's really gonna be a good series.
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  Speaker 4: I asked you on Tuesday when we spoke about the
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  Speaker 4: sustainability of Lebron James dragging the Lakers to this level
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  Speaker 4: of success. They're up to nothing on the Rockets. As
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  Speaker 4: I already mentioned, Houston is nearly a ten point favorite
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  Speaker 4: in this coming game, which will be tomorrow. What's going
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  Speaker 4: to happen in that series?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the first thing, I'm not a betting man, but
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't bet against I wouldn't bet against the Lakers
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  Speaker 3: ten point underdog. They have a chemistry right now. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: they're missing Luca and they miss missing missing some other
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  Speaker 3: guys as far as in the lineup. But what they have, though,
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  Speaker 3: is that unbelievable right now chemistry where the players are
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  Speaker 3: basically somewhat overachieving. So Austin Reeves is the other player
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  Speaker 3: that they're missing, but Lebron is the maestra of the
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  Speaker 3: whole thing. Marcus Smart did a good job got in
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  Speaker 3: KD the other day. He was biting up on him,
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  Speaker 3: forcing KD, who was a little bit rusty off the injury,
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  Speaker 3: into nine turnovers. And then Marcus Smarts counters that by
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  Speaker 3: having a great offensive game with also Lebron and Luke Connard,
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  Speaker 3: who's absolutely a knockdown give me the hot sauce shooter.
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  Speaker 3: Here's Lebron right now at age forty one sean. The
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  Speaker 3: first two games in this playoff series, twenty three point
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  Speaker 3: five points begin tennissist, eight rebounds, forty eight point six
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  Speaker 3: filga percentage forty two to nine from threes, and one
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  Speaker 3: point five steals in thirty nine minutes. So he has
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  Speaker 3: been spectacular. And also they're getting good support from Ruey Hotchimore.
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  Speaker 3: He's done a good job as far as him making
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  Speaker 3: plays and timely open shots. So I expect the Rockets
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  Speaker 3: to win Game three, but Game four is gonna be
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  Speaker 3: the one where you could decide everything.
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  Speaker 4: All right, We got plenty of playoffs to talk about,
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  Speaker 4: but a big announcement this morning. Aj Debonza is staying
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  Speaker 4: there's NBA playoffs to get to. I do want to
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  Speaker 4: talk about it, but we saw the t's on social
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  Speaker 4: media yesterday. AJ Debonca said big news coming tomorrow morning.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go live on my Instagram right after that,
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  Speaker 4: and Aj Debonsa is, to nobody's surprise, declaring for the
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  Speaker 4: NBA Draft.
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  Speaker 1: He is a potential number one overall draft pick.
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  Speaker 4: Now you heard my t's before we went to break,
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  Speaker 4: he did say he's got to remain enrolled at BYU
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  Speaker 4: because it's important to his family that he gets the degree.
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  Speaker 4: And look, I admire that. I think that's wonderful. There's
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  Speaker 4: no question that BYU will remain as attached to Aj
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  Speaker 4: as they can for his NBA career, that they will
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  Speaker 4: allow him to come back in off seasons and to
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  Speaker 4: take as many classes as he wants, that they will
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  Speaker 4: help him get his degree. That is important to the school.
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  Speaker 4: It is important to AJ's family. By the way, Max Hall,
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  Speaker 4: the BYU quarterback who is one of the favorite villains
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  Speaker 4: of the rivalry for Utah fans, Max Hall just got
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  Speaker 4: his degree from BYU, like just barely now graduated. So
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  Speaker 4: congratulations to Max Hall for getting it done. I had
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  Speaker 4: no idea he had not already earned his degree from
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  Speaker 4: the university, but we got that announcement this week that
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  Speaker 4: he had so good for him.
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  Speaker 1: I always do.
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  Speaker 4: We all dislike Max Hall for the classless comments about
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  Speaker 4: Utah from his days in the rivalry. He's been through
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  Speaker 4: some stuff as an adult. He's made some mistakes as
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  Speaker 4: an adult. He had the addiction problems and stuff, and
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  Speaker 4: so the right thing to do is to root for
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  Speaker 4: the person to have success as a person. His association
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  Speaker 4: as a BYU quarterback in a rivalry matters very little
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  Speaker 4: compared to overcoming and making it successfully through rehab and
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  Speaker 4: now to getting his degree. So good job Max Hall
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  Speaker 4: AJ debonsa. We will get that story for him at
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  Speaker 4: some point as well, that he has obtained his degree
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  Speaker 4: from Brigham Young University. But make no mistake, it was
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  Speaker 4: never in question. And Gordy's been telling you this the
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  Speaker 4: whole way. He's going to go to the draft, and
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  Speaker 4: of course he did.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy, here's the first question about that. Sean A long
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  Speaker 3: time ago in your Korea. Academically, am I head? What
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  Speaker 3: was you're a major in school? I will be laughing
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  Speaker 3: about because I should.
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  Speaker 1: Have done something that was a little bit more.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Look, the plan was to go into federal law enforcement,
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  Speaker 4: and so I was going to go get a master's
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  Speaker 4: in psychology, and instead I was so I was a
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  Speaker 4: psych psych major social minor, which is like very typical
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  Speaker 4: of the wanna be student athletes.
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  Speaker 1: They're they're easy degrees.
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  Speaker 3: So psych psych Okay, you respect that pseudo science, yes,
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  Speaker 3: pseudo And look at you now where you are right now? Yes,
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  Speaker 3: he's in every single day.
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  Speaker 4: And I have parlayed that degree into this job, which
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  Speaker 4: makes very little sense to any of us.
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  Speaker 3: Sean am I do you lush your career academically? They
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  Speaker 3: like the illustrious I was once a teacher?
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh? And so what was your major.
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  Speaker 3: Education?
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  Speaker 1: Education? All right, so you actually worked in field?
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  Speaker 3: And I was voted one time the worst ever student
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  Speaker 3: teaching the history of New York State. Yeah, well I had,
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  Speaker 3: I had. I taught them Chinese history, okay, yeah, Chinese history,
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  Speaker 3: the juniors and seniors. And about that where I had
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  Speaker 3: this Juloti car that only worked on Monday, Wednesday and
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  Speaker 3: Friday when I was in college, and all these sort
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  Speaker 3: of wealthy juniors and seniors with their mother and father's
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  Speaker 3: car had these unbelievable cars. And here's my junkie car
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  Speaker 3: student teaching, you know, coming down into the parking lot.
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  Speaker 3: It was very very said, however, I did recover from them.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, look, you stayed in education. Now, coaching is a
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  Speaker 4: different type of education, but is of course education nonetheless,
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  Speaker 4: So you actually worked in your your chosen field, Gordy.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I did. I'm really grateful And speaking of chosen
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  Speaker 3: feel aj Debanser, all right, Showan's alluding to that he's
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  Speaker 3: going back to school as far as taking classes. And
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  Speaker 3: remember here's the benchmark. About five years ago, Stephen Curry
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  Speaker 3: during the playoffs. They excellent. One time, Hey Steph, you
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  Speaker 3: in between road games. What do you do? And he
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  Speaker 3: said to the media scrum he said, well, I'm studying
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  Speaker 3: tonight and he said, what do you doing? I'm studying.
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean? He goes, yeah, I have to
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  Speaker 3: do a turn paper online and it's due tomorrow and
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  Speaker 3: I'm finishing it tonight. So I'll be in my hotel
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  Speaker 3: room during a playoff road where I'm gonna do a
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  Speaker 3: finish my turn paper it's due. I'm gonna send it
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  Speaker 3: obviously online and give it to Davison College because I
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  Speaker 3: promised my mother that I would graduate. And then after that,
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  Speaker 3: about a year later he graduated. He walked with the
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  Speaker 3: students online. It was absolutely perfect and for Davidson College
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  Speaker 3: in North Carolina, you couldn't get anything better than that
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  Speaker 3: with Steph Curry, with these younger people walking on line
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  Speaker 3: with his cap and ground.
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  Speaker 1: What a cool thing.
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  Speaker 4: And just like to zoom out, Steph Curry is worth
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  Speaker 4: something like six hundred million dollars between his NBA earnings
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  Speaker 4: and his under Armour endorsements, right primarily under Armoured endorsements.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't need a college degree, but the fact that
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  Speaker 4: he wants to follow through on a promise, that he
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  Speaker 4: wants to achieve a goal just for the sake of
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  Speaker 4: achieving a goal is awesome and it's something that we
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  Speaker 4: should talk about and we should celebrate, and obviously we do,
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  Speaker 4: we do report on those things. But for so many people,
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  Speaker 4: the education is a means to an end, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: grateful to have grown up in a house where my
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  Speaker 4: grandfather was an educator. My parents had a really deep
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  Speaker 4: appreciation of education and always taught us that education is
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  Speaker 4: never wasted, that it's not about getting the piece of
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  Speaker 4: paper you can get the higher paying job, it's about
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  Speaker 4: actually doing the learning. And it's cool to hear that
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  Speaker 4: was the case for Steph Curry, who like I said
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  Speaker 4: that doesn't need He's never gonna have to apply for
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  Speaker 4: a job. Steph Curry's not taking an internship anywhere. But
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  Speaker 4: he still wanted to get the degree.
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  Speaker 3: That's really neat and that's with Aja right now with
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  Speaker 3: BYU and if you're b Yu, you're a static that
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  Speaker 3: he wants to be continued relationship with the university. And
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  Speaker 3: I think it's really great speaking on now. Talent h
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  Speaker 3: by the way, he'll be the first pick of the draft,
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  Speaker 3: absolutely number one. He is a major talent that's going
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  Speaker 3: to go probably to a lesser team where he's going
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  Speaker 3: to start and be a huge factor as far as
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  Speaker 3: them that new team whoever drafts him, as far as
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  Speaker 3: the lottery regards, which is may tent which ironically showing
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  Speaker 3: his mother's day, that's when teens find out what it
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  Speaker 3: should be. Hopefully that the Jazz would ever get him
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  Speaker 3: would be a miracle in a great way, and that
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  Speaker 3: it would help the Jazz accelerate their process, which is
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  Speaker 3: which is right now going to be in play. It's
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  Speaker 3: add to that. What does he do well? Aj Demanser.
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  Speaker 3: What he does is that he creates shots for himself
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  Speaker 3: at any moment against good defense. He can go over
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  Speaker 3: the top of the of the guardian. He makes plays.
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  Speaker 3: He's willing to play without the ball, and he can
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  Speaker 3: rebound in traffic and bust out dribble to create a
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  Speaker 3: tempo rhythm. Defensively, he's long and rangy and he tries
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  Speaker 3: to play defense. Like all young guys, the physicality is
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  Speaker 3: the factor, especially in playoff games. Shoans alluding before earlier
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  Speaker 3: about the hockey situations where it's all based on physicality,
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  Speaker 3: and that's the better teams in the end, and the
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  Speaker 3: NBA they play physical defense with technique. So with AJ
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  Speaker 3: and all the other guys in the high draft picks
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna have, they're gonna happen in the draft. Learning defense,
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  Speaker 3: being physical with technique is absolutely critical for your development.
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  Speaker 3: So good for AJ. He's gonna he's gonna be draft
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  Speaker 3: number one. Number two showing should be Darren Peterson. Three
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  Speaker 3: might be showing Caleb Wilson, Who's I know it sounds weird.
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  Speaker 3: He's that he's an unbelievable talent. He's vastly almost like
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: underrated because he broke his wrist. So if people haven't
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: seen him play, minus the personal people since February and
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: then boozer and you can flip flap all that all
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: the time. And number five, Shawn should be Darius Acarf
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: from who's a major talent from Arkansas, a point guard
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  Speaker 3: who's got absolutely quickness and jets.
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  Speaker 4: And of course when we get into that fourth, fifth,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: whatever pick, that's that's kind of where we expect. That's
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  Speaker 4: the highest likelihood for the Utah Jazz to end up
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: in that neighborhood. They do have an eleven and a
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  Speaker 4: half percent chance to have the number one overall pick.
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  Speaker 4: So if you're a gambled man or woman and you
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: like those odds, maybe maybe the Utah Jazz do get
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  Speaker 4: aj DEBONSA.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of gambling, Sean, I'm gonna I'm gonna test your
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: knowledge of music. Oh dear, all right, who sang this song?
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: The gambler Kenny Rogers. That's correct. See, Sean, nothing gets
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: past you. This is why you're successful. And I'm a
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: solving artist.
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  Speaker 4: That's I don't know if that's how I would characterize
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: our relative places in the world, but we'll go with
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: what Gordy says because we defer to his wisdom. All Right,
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  Speaker 4: we got to take another break. Our two begins next
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: with Gordy Chiasa. Like I said on Thursdays, we keep
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: him for as long as we can, don't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get back into this playoff bracket in the NBA.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: We've only touched on a couple of the series so far.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get into the Eastern Conference. I don't think there's
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: an NBA champion this year in the Eastern Conference. Does
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Gordy agree or disagree? We'll get to that. In three
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  Speaker 4: minutes on the Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN seven hundred and
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  Speaker 2: Listening to se O'Connell show for the Murdoch Hyundai Studio
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  Speaker 2: of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two to one half an.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell show.
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  Speaker 4: Forty Chase is still hanging out with us Alex Jensen.
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  Speaker 4: In about twenty minutes here on the show, all right,
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  Speaker 4: I mentioned before the break, I don't see an NBA
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: champion emerging from the Eastern Conference. I think this year's
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Larry O'Brien gets hoisted by somebody in the West, whether
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: that be the Thunder or the Spurs. I could see
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: the Nuggets doing it, maybe even the Lakers, which would
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: cement Lebron James. I think that would change the goat
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: debate in basketball more than anything so far has. If
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Lebron were somehow and I think it's unlikely, if you
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: were somehow able to drag the Lakers to a championship
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: at age forty one, then you would have to alter
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: your calculus a little bit on his career versus Michael
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Jordan's career. And I don't even think that's the most
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: important debate to have, but it's a foregone conclusion in
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: my mind that Michael stays number one in most people's minds.
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  Speaker 4: That would be one of the only things that could
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: happen in modern basketball that might draw some more people
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: over to Lebron's side.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, he would. However, Michael Jordan's hard to beat out.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Let's refresh everyone's memory. Six straight championships, six times MVP
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: in the finals, which is absolutely hard to do, and
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: then two years of baseball where he so much about
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: him scrutiny. You know, he's so famous that you can't
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: actually be any moment of your life basically normal. And
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: so he took an absence of about a year and
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: a half and played baseball and he came back to
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: the Chicago Bulls.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: So Soans alluding to he thinks that the win is
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: gonna come out of the West. All right, I'm gonna
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: offer a slightly different viewpoint. Okay, I think someth gonna
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: be an upset this year that the win is gonna
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  Speaker 3: come from the East and it's going to be the Celtics.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: That's just me saying it, and Hit hits some metrics
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  Speaker 3: about Sean. You decide no listeners right now driving in
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  Speaker 3: the car at I fifteen. For the last seven years,
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  Speaker 3: there's been seven different NBA champions twenty nineteen, Raptors twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 3: Lakers in the Bubble, twenty twenty one, Bucks twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 3: Warriors twenty twenty three, Nuggets twenty twenty four, Celtics twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty five Thunder. Add to that, for seven straight seasons,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: the defending NBA champion didn't advance past the second player round.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: They lost seven straight years in the conference semifinals, including
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: last year when the Celts lost to the Knickerbockers in
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: the second round. So that's the metrics, is it true?
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  Speaker 3: This year? That's the beauty of the NBA Playoffs, you
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  Speaker 3: think you know you know nothing, so to say, besides
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: being a Jazz fan in this market, you're a fan
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: of other franchises. Where with your team, the NBA Playoffs
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  Speaker 3: is the act which you need to win a championship
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  Speaker 3: for And in the individual team they are one you
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: need star power, two speed, three toughness, four health, five versatility,
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  Speaker 3: six discipline and seven luck. Those are the seven attributes
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  Speaker 3: that the NBA champion will have most of them and
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: that's the blueprint. So again, when you analyze your team,
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  Speaker 3: besides the first one, star power, absolutely so. In the
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  Speaker 3: fourth quarter of an NBA playoff game where the homer away,
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  Speaker 3: the question is philosophically, oh, by the way, are our
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: three best players better than our rival's best players in
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, especially under the five minute mark where
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: it's one for all, all for one, where our guys
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: have to on both sides of the ball guard their position,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: play health defense and make baskets or draw fouls against
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: rugged physicality defense. And that can we get consecutive stops
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  Speaker 3: to win by one or two. And that's why I
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: star power is so important. Remember now, let's point about this, oh,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: by the way, is that the opponent's going to double
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  Speaker 3: team one of your star players to get the ball
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  Speaker 3: out of their hands. So which means then that someone
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: else on your team, your favorite team, who will probably
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: get an open corner look three point shot, and can
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: that person make that shot? And joins alluding to about
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: the Lakers earlier a few minutes ago, about the Lakers
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: in the Lebron James they have right now Luke Krannar,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: So Luke Crar could be the biggest benefactor of Lebron James.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: And Austin resently comes back and Luca for the open
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  Speaker 3: three point shot, and so Lakers could be a factor
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  Speaker 3: in the West. Besides the Thunder, we're absolutely great one
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  Speaker 3: through ten. Also the Nuggets, who are vastly underrated, and
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: all the other teams, and the Minnesota Tombwolves and the Spurs,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: they're all bunched up, and we think that eventually that
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: it's going to come down to who can make place.
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  Speaker 4: So number four on that list, Gordy just gave you
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  Speaker 4: was health, right, Yeah, health, Yes, health is what I'm
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: watching in the West the rest of the way, because
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: the Lakers already compromised on health. Now the Spurs have
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: to worry about when Minyama And of course we hope
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: that that ends up not being a major thing. But
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, especially with San Antonio, that's one of the
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: more exciting teams in this playoff and if they don't
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: get to stay healthy, can they overcome it, especially as
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: a young squad. And then I mean, we haven't talked
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: enough about the defending champs, Oklahoma City Thunder. You already
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: talked about the trend. It's been a new team year
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: after year after year after year. Are the Thunder the
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  Speaker 4: most likely that we've seen in that stretch to be
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: able to pull it off or repeat?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, because they're so deep. They have absolute quality depth
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: And speaking about health right now, got hurt hurt it
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Jolly Williams in the third quarter. He hurt himself with
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: his left hamstring injury, so they're gonna hold him out.
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  Speaker 3: But the Thunder one of the few teams that have
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: absolutely quality depth and as long as Shay is there
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: as a difference maker no matter what happens, that star
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: power with Shae Jos Alexander, he can create magic on
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: the court. And that they were able to overcome any
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: injuries that they have right now, So it does happen.
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  Speaker 3: The intensity is gonna kicked up three notches every round.
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  Speaker 3: So SHA's going to lead that group, so will Case
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  Speaker 3: and Wilds off the bench, Alice Crusoe, Chet Hungrim is tremendous,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Isaiah Hartenstein's a really good banger inside, and now they
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: have Jarret McCain and they's so many other guys that
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: just play hard and with skill and besides adding also
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I left out purposely defensively lou Dort. So if that's
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: gonna happen a back to back champion, it would be
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: probably the thunder the last time it happened with the
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Golden State Warriors. And this shows you how it's hard
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: to win. Winning is so hard in the playoffs because
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: there's so many variables and the defense is fierce. It's
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: so that's why showing in playoff basketball there's so many
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: missed shots because it's it's the first time, in the
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: first time for a lot of young players that they're
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: playing on the influence of physicality of trying to guard them.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: And that's why it'd be so strong mentally, but also
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: upper body strength to absorb the contact and to finish
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: through to get either a mid range jump shot. Most
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: times in playoff games, the defense runs you off the
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: three point line. So the shot of choice is the
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: opposite of the NBA season is the mid range game,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: not the three point shot.
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  Speaker 4: Gordy, who's going to emerge from this Denver Minnesota series
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: and whoever that is? Are they a potential threat to
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: win the West?
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  Speaker 3: Yes? First thing is that they don't like Sewan there.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: They're absolutely arch rivals. They do not like each other.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: So right now, Jane McDaniels last game when the te
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Wolves beat the Nuggets, he said that the whole Nuggets
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: team are bad defenders.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: So we played that sound yeah, okay, just dismissing everybody
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: on the whole team.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: There you go, all right, So Sean, if I am
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: the Nuggets, I am absolutely taking it personal. Right So
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: now it gets interesting. The game is gonna be uh
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: tonight in the Twins City, and the question is philosophically.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Jamal Murray, who's who's a tremendous player. He's struggling from
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: the floor. He's only shooting twenty seven point three percent
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: from threes. Getting back. I'm talking about where they run
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: you off the line into a middle game. Even though
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: he's getting to the foul line making his foul shots.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: He's only shooting overall in this series thirty eight point
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  Speaker 3: three percent. He's the counter of that as far as ascending. Also,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards, a first team o NBA performer, is only
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: shooting from three point range twenty five percent and from
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: the field thirty eight point six. So the question is philosophically,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: who can make baskets now? Is a Julius Randall? Is
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: a Christian Brown? Is that Nikoli Jokic who's played tremendous
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: for them? But Jokice right now from three point ranges
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: three for fourteen. Last game, former jazz Man Rudy Gobert
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: did a yeoman's job of just slowing down Jokic in
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter where Jamal Murray, Nikola Jokicic shot two
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: for twelve. And now it's the difference now those guys,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: those guys right now, Sean are thinking about that last
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: fourth cour and at opening a quarter tonight to be
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: ready to roll.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Let's go back to your Celtics prediction here for a second. Okay,
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: why the Celtics and not the number one seed out
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: of the East.
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  Speaker 1: The Pistons.
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  Speaker 3: Experience, yeah, experience, Yeah, I like the Pistons. They're really
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: a fun story where they two years ago they were
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: absolutely inept and now this past season did the first
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: seed and they won sixty games, which is really tremendous. However,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: when we learned about the play in playoff basketball, experience
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: does matter. It does absolutely, and so playing through physicality
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: and making baskets out of nothing, I call it chaos
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: scoring in most playoff games is that your set offense.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Even though it's commendable during a regular season, it doesn't happen.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: So now you've got to score off We call it concepts.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Where can you get the ball into the dependent area, whether
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: it's direct pass or off the dribble. Can you penetrate
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: and either love pass, finish in traffic of turn around,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: jump shot in mid range, or kick it out for
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: a three point shot. And I like the Celtics doing
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: that because the Celtics have a whole bunch of guys
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: that can score points. Again, for the listeners, here's the
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Celtics starting lineup. Peyton Pritchett, who's three point shooter and
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: he's got some toughness. He's in the lane. Derek White,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: one of the best two way players in the NBA
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Jellen Brown, All NBA player Jason Tatum, which is really
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: one of the most fun stories in the NBA. Or
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: if they're devastating injury less less May is now playing
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: tremendous in the playoffs, and then go Nikolausovich as far
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: as their center. Then off the bench they go Sam
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Hauser who's a knockdown shooter, and baller Shireman who can
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: make shots also, and so Luke Garsa and Cato from
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Utah State. So I like their team. I like the
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: way they play defense, even though I know it's gonna
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: be it's even as good as they are, it's still
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: gonna be tough as far as most series should go,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: showing six or seven games because you know why the
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: other guys are good. Also, there's nothing like the playoff basketball.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: It's so intense, and that the players that are successful
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: are the ones that can stay focused mentally, and that
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: they shoot forward not backwards. Shown a lot of times
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: in basketball, especially at a younger age, where players take
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: a shot and miss it and for the next five
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: possessions they're thinking about the misshot versus in the NBA playoffs,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: the shots missed, it's over. Get back on defense. And
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: try to get get the ball back and more importantly,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: your next shot you're gonna make. And that's why it's
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: so That's why it's so paramount is to play forward
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: not backwards. Also showing when we think about the playoffs,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: winning is ugly. Winning is ugly. Oh how come the
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: guys can run their offense? And the reason why is
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: because the defense again is so fierce. So most games
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: in playoff basketball are ugly, but Sean, we love being ugly.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Well, winning ugly for me, in regardless of the sport
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: is the mark of really good teams. If you can
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: win when it's pretty well, you're front runner. Anyone can
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: do that. You have to be able to win when
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: a game gets mucky, when somebody gets hurt, when it
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: gets physical. Sometimes in the NBA especially, that can be
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: a little bit slow because it's free throws after free
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: throws after free throws. But got to be able to
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: win in those conditions. Gordy, what's your list today?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: My list today is the NBA Korea playoff leaders in
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: most made three point shots, so Korea made playoff threes.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: I cut it to twelve players and everyone knows these
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: guys' names. Sean three point shot. It started the nineteen
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  Speaker 3: eighty playoff season. So this right now, this is the
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: forty sixth season of the NBA playoff three. Quickly, what
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: the corner three is twenty two feet? The NBA all
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: three extended is twenty three and nine inches. And in Sean,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: I know your favorite ABA days where you're saw on
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: video recently the NBA three point shot, the ABA three
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: point shot is a twenty five feet and Sean, you
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: love seeing that red, white.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: And blue ball. Its great ball.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: That's exactly right, it really is. So that's twenty five feet.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Here's the quick list all time leaders of most made
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Korea playoff threes number twelve, Kobe Bryant to ninety two,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: number eleven, j R. Smith to ninety four, number ten,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Sean right on point, Jason Tatum two ninety five, number nine,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Danny Green three fifteen, number eight, Reggie Miller three twenty
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: number seven, Monu Gerobli, who's one of the all time
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: great player performers with three twenty four, number six. He's
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: gonna play against the Lakers. Kevin Durant three sixty seven,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: number five. I had the pleasure coaches guy in at
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Seattle Sonics and he was an unbelievable He's the second
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: greatest ever shooter of all time Gray Allen three eighty five,
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Number four he plays for the Cavaliers. He's don Mitchell
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Sydekick in the back court. James Harden four forty one
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: May Korea threes. Number three, Lebron James third all time
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: with four hundred and eighty three triples in the playoffs,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: number two for the Golden State Warriors formerly now he
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: plays for the Dallas Mavericks. Klay Thompson at five oh one.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: The number one greatest ever three point shoot as far
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: as career makes in playoff history is Steph Curry with
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: six hundred and fifty May threes in the playoffs. Quickly,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: what about Jazz basketball. Who's the greatest ever Korea made
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: three point shots in Jazz playoff history? That is Donovan
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Mitchell in thirty nine games he made one twenty nine
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: and the second greatest ever three point shooting in playoff
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: history for the Jazz is Brian Russell who made one
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: to twenty six.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: So, thus, Sean, that's my list of today.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I would not have put Donovan Mitchell.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Or Brian Russell at the top of Jazz history in
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: the playoffs interesting.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, you learn something new every day.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: That's why we bring Gordy in and his encyclopedic knowledge
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: of all things NBA basketball. GORDI, who are your Jets
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: gonna draft?
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Sean? I'm a tortured Sean, I'm tortured.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: So every time I mentioned the Jets, you see Gordy's
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: his complexion, his countenance go from being one of positivity
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: and sharing wisdom and knowledge, and then it just becomes
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: exactly that tortured.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: You're right, Sean, I am, I'm tortured the Jets. If
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: you're a Jet fan like I am, it's like there's
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: never been a team that's so shown incompetent. Really, is
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: that the words.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: He's a great word for them.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, they don't get it right, like for like showing
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: sixty years like it's it's hard to do that like
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: that long.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: They've got the number two pick, and a lot of
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: people think that's gonna be David Bayley, the defensive end
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  Speaker 4: from Texas Tech. We'll see, but they'll probably find a
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  Speaker 4: way to even screw that up.
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  Speaker 3: But Sean, I, how about tonight with the Utah game.
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  Speaker 3: Utah players utes.
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  Speaker 1: Because of.
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  Speaker 4: Francis Mewingola, who is kind of the other guy that
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people talked about as a top tackle
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  Speaker 4: in the draft. He got a medical report back that
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: maybe he's got a herniated disc, which should be repairable
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  Speaker 4: and fine, but teams aren't gonna be as patient with it.
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  Speaker 4: Butentially so, there seems to be some consensus reach that
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  Speaker 4: that Spencer Fano is likely to be the first tackle taken.
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  Speaker 4: The first team that really needs a tackle are the
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  Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns, but they have two first round picks, so
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: there's a possibility they could use that on a receiver,
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  Speaker 4: and then if they don't really love any of the tackles,
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  Speaker 4: they could move back up from twenty four where the
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  Speaker 4: second pick is to try to get a tackle kind
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: of in the middle rounds and final could be available there.
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  Speaker 4: So I think you get two first rounders. I think
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: both Caleb Lomo and Francis or sorry and Caleb Caleb
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Blebwoo and Spencer Fano both go I think in the
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  Speaker 4: first round. But we'll see when every time there's a
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: consensus reached, and every time it's like, oh yeah, everyone
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: knows this is what's going to happen, We're wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Every time.
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  Speaker 3: That's understanding. That's also the NBA ref also showing gammanship
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  Speaker 3: by a lot of times teams sure, where they say
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  Speaker 3: things publicly, but it's really what they don't mean it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, could be like, oh, we're worried about that back
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: injury from Mawingoa, so then they can just go grab
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: them where they always plan on grabbing them with nobody
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: else being worried about it. Anyway, we'll watch the draft.
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  Speaker 4: We'll have it right here on your home of the
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  Speaker 4: UTESPN seven hundred. Gordy, you're the man, Thanks for your time,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Thanks youewing peace out.