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- 0:00Ejaaz: The number one question we keep getting asked is, will AI replace my job?
- 0:04Ejaaz: Well, now we have an answer. The godfather of AI, Andrej Karpathy,
- 0:07Ejaaz: released a report which tells us which jobs are at most risk of being replaced by AI.
- 0:11Ejaaz: And it's not quite what you might think. Jobs like financial analysts,
- 0:15Ejaaz: computer programming, and transcriptioning are at most risk.
- 0:17Ejaaz: But what shocks me the most are the ones that are the safest.
- 0:20Ejaaz: Plumbing, bartending, being a mechanic.
- 0:22Ejaaz: Turns out AI won't replace manual labor because it just doesn't have any hands.
- 0:26Ejaaz: It still requires human bodies. But on the other hand, if your job involves a computer,
- 0:31Ejaaz: You might be kind of cooked at this point, but it's not all doom and gloom.
- 0:35Ejaaz: The report measures AI exposure, which doesn't necessarily imply replacement,
- 0:39Ejaaz: but rather the evolution of job roles.
- 0:42Ejaaz: What your job looks like today is very much going to look very different a few years from now.
- 0:46Josh: Yeah. So a brief timeline on how all this stuff unfolded. On Saturday morning,
- 0:49Josh: Andre Carpathy, this is the guy who coined Vibe Coding. He co-founded OpenAI.
- 0:53Josh: He led AI at Tesla. I mean, this is the guy. He spent a few hours Vibe Coding
- 0:57Josh: this project that scores every job in America on a zero to one scale based on,
- 1:01Josh: like you said, Ejaz, how exposed it is to AI.
- 1:04Josh: Now, this is not a direct correlation to how likely it is to be replaced,
- 1:07Josh: although there is some indication of that.
- 1:09Josh: Basically, he publishes this project and it goes absolutely nuclear.
- 1:12Josh: Elon's replying, Fortune picks it up.
- 1:14Josh: It's in all of the major publications, all within hours.
- 1:16Josh: And then he deleted the repo. It was gone off of the web completely and entirely.
- 1:22Josh: Thankfully, I was playing around with it that night. I forked the repo and I
- 1:26Josh: republished it on GitHub.
- 1:27Josh: And that's what we're looking at here. And this is the project.
- 1:30Josh: This is what shows all these jobs that are going to be replaced.
- 1:33Josh: If you see your job here, that's okay.
- 1:35Josh: We're going to walk through a bunch of categories about what is most affected,
- 1:38Josh: what is least affected, and I guess kind of the impact that AI is going to have.
- 1:41Josh: So, Ejaz, there's some high numbers here on this left tab here that maybe we
- 1:44Josh: could start by walking through.
- 1:45Ejaaz: Yeah. So, what you're looking at on the left is the total number of jobs that
- 1:50Ejaaz: are affected, and it's quite a big number. It's almost 150 million.
- 1:54Ejaaz: Now, if you scroll down, you'll see the number of, or the amount of wages that
- 1:58Ejaaz: are exposed to potentially being automated by AI, $3.7 trillion.
- 2:03Ejaaz: That is like one of the larger numbers that we've seen when it comes to displacement.
- 2:07Ejaaz: But if I shift your focus to the right here on the main graphic,
- 2:11Ejaaz: you notice that there's a lot of red and a lot of green. It's pretty self-explanatory.
- 2:14Ejaaz: If you see your job and it's red, it's at most risk. It's at the highest exposure.
- 2:19Ejaaz: If it's green, it's probably the most safest.
- 2:21Ejaaz: So let's start with the worst, medical transcriptionists.
- 2:25Josh: AI exposure 10 out of 10.
- 2:29Ejaaz: Josh, we're looking at a median pay of almost $40,000 and they have 44,000 jobs.
- 2:34Ejaaz: That do this in the U.S. How much is that worth?
- 2:38Josh: That is about $1.65 billion of value that has 10 out of 10 exposure.
- 2:44Josh: Now, there aren't many 10 out of 10s. In fact, I think this might be the only
- 2:46Josh: one that is truly 10 out of 10. I'm not going to lie, this one might be cooked.
- 2:50Josh: And the way this is categorized is kind of in these like higher level brackets.
- 2:54Josh: So there's the 10 out of 10, which is the medical transcriptionist.
- 2:56Josh: If you are a transcriptionist, I would work very hard to try to use AI and maintain
- 3:01Josh: your position as best as possible.
- 3:02Josh: But then beneath that, I think one of the categories that surprised a lot of
- 3:05Josh: people is a very popular subcategory of jobs, which is like the software developers,
- 3:10Josh: the designers, the people who are working on computers every single day.
- 3:13Josh: A lot of these jobs are at an eight or a nine out of 10. They're very high relative to a lot of others.
- 3:18Ejaaz: And there's a lot of them. If you look at the software engineering section,
- 3:22Ejaaz: we've got an average median pay of $130,000 a year, but there are almost 2 million of these jobs.
- 3:28Ejaaz: And this is taken from like, I think 2024 data.
- 3:30Ejaaz: So it's probably a lot more today, but it's not just technical roles.
- 3:34Ejaaz: It's also graphic designers, data scientists. They're all exposed.
- 3:38Josh: Wait, did I see anything about podcasting in there? Oh, I saw video production. Oh, that seems scary.
- 3:43Ejaaz: No, you know what, Josh? I actually haven't seen this at all.
- 3:45Ejaaz: So I think we're actually safe and I'm going to choose to ignore it and not look for it.
- 3:49Ejaaz: But market research analysts are exposed.
- 3:52Ejaaz: Customer service reps, 2.8 million jobs, nine out of 10 general office clerks.
- 3:57Ejaaz: So what I'm seeing here, I'm noticing a trend in the jobs that are affected.
- 4:01Ejaaz: It largely involves computer-based tasks, but ones that are very repetitious
- 4:05Ejaaz: and most likely to be automated, kind of like low-hanging fruit,
- 4:08Ejaaz: like back office work, like moving files around, basic analyst stuff.
- 4:12Ejaaz: The other trend I'm noticing is these sound a lot like entry-level jobs, Josh.
- 4:17Ejaaz: Like when I'm reading the descriptions of software engineers here,
- 4:20Ejaaz: it's mainly talking about like tasks that junior-level engineers might do or
- 4:24Ejaaz: junior-level graphic designers might do,
- 4:26Ejaaz: which kind of mirrors the trends that we're seeing on the job market right now,
- 4:29Ejaaz: where entry-level jobs in the U.S. at least are completely evaporating.
- 4:33Josh: And it's also important to note that the AI exposure does not directly correlate to the job loss.
- 4:39Josh: It's just the involvement of AI in the actual job. So what we're seeing at companies
- 4:42Josh: like Anthropic, OpenAI, the companies that are building this software,
- 4:45Josh: they're hiring faster than ever.
- 4:48Josh: And they're limited purely by the constraint of quality people to hire versus
- 4:52Josh: the actual need and the want to hire.
- 4:54Josh: There are some places in which this could harm people. So like if you're a software
- 4:57Josh: developer right now, if you're a designer right now, Now, AI is such a great tool for leverage.
- 5:01Josh: You can do so much more. You can get so much more output if you use these tools for leverage.
- 5:05Josh: In the case that you don't, or in the case that you can't, in the case of the
- 5:09Josh: medical transcriptionist, in which it literally is just like dictating notes
- 5:13Josh: into a page, it's going to be tough.
- 5:16Josh: So this isn't directly a job replacement board, but it just shows how much of
- 5:20Josh: an impact AI will actually have on your job.
- 5:23Josh: Now, there's a lot on this board that is green.
- 5:26Josh: And that means that not only is AI not coming to replace the job,
- 5:30Josh: but there's not much AI involvement,
- 5:32Josh: all in the job. And I think this is a bigger conversation around these lagging
- 5:35Josh: indicators in the physical world where AI is wreaking havoc on software.
- 5:39Josh: But when it comes to just your dude down the street who's coming to fix your
- 5:43Josh: sink or your toilet or paint the walls, there is no competition for that at all, right?
- 5:48Ejaaz: Yeah, it's completely inverted. Where typically technology advances will kind
- 5:52Ejaaz: of kill blue collar jobs or completely evolve that landscape,
- 5:56Ejaaz: we're seeing the opposite here.
- 5:58Ejaaz: So if you're a janitor or a building cleaner, one out of 10,
- 6:01Ejaaz: you're not exposed, you're safe.
- 6:03Ejaaz: If you're a grounds maintenance worker, again, safe.
- 6:07Ejaaz: If you are working in any kind of labor or construction, home health perspectives,
- 6:11Ejaaz: things that require your hands or a human body or human intuition in that sense,
- 6:16Ejaaz: you're pretty much safe for now.
- 6:18Ejaaz: And the main reason for this is probably obvious.
- 6:21Ejaaz: AI or AI models can only really talk and do computer-based tasks.
- 6:25Ejaaz: They can spit out characters and words and numbers and analysis,
- 6:28Ejaaz: but they can't action that in the physical world yet.
- 6:31Ejaaz: Robotics is still comparatively very young at this point, a young industry,
- 6:36Ejaaz: and it's probably going to advance, but it's going to take a little longer than
- 6:38Ejaaz: AI LLMs will right now. And it's a really stark contrast.
- 6:42Ejaaz: Like when I think about technology replacing people's jobs, I always think that
- 6:46Ejaaz: it might start from the bottom up.
- 6:48Ejaaz: But I think this is a clear example of it happening from the top down.
- 6:51Josh: Yeah. And it's funny because when you look at the people most exposed,
- 6:54Josh: they're generally the highest earners.
- 6:56Josh: The people least exposed are the lowest earners.
- 6:59Josh: When you look at the average, the median pay for all these jobs,
- 7:02Josh: it's normally the ones with the highest median pay that are most susceptible.
- 7:06Josh: And I think it's because, I mean, generally speaking, software has been such
- 7:09Josh: a lever in terms of how much productive output you can generate relative to
- 7:13Josh: the physical world in which you are one person.
- 7:16Josh: And that lever has created a lot of value. But now that value is
- 7:18Josh: able to start to become either subsidized or replaced by
- 7:22Josh: these ai tools so long as you're not using them for the
- 7:25Josh: leverage yourself so it's this interesting chart i
- 7:28Josh: really enjoyed looking through it like if you are what do we have child care
- 7:31Josh: worker safe general maintenance are safe software developers not cashiers maybe
- 7:36Josh: not there's this middle section that i find interesting where it's like the
- 7:38Josh: the heavy tractor drivers kind of towards the top and there's the retail sales
- 7:42Josh: workers and the cashiers so if you're in in retail you're probably okay for
- 7:46Josh: now is there For anyone who's truly safe EJS who has zero exposure to AI?
- 7:50Ejaaz: I can't find it right now because it's probably minuscule. But if you are a
- 7:53Ejaaz: truck driver, you are at a zero out of 10 AI exposure.
- 7:57Ejaaz: So you're the safest job in America and in the world right now. Congrats.
- 8:01Josh: And I hope you're listening to Limitless on your truck ride this morning. Yeah, exactly.
- 8:05Ejaaz: But anyway, to kind of like tie a loop around this, the directional trend is pretty clear.
- 8:10Ejaaz: AI is going to automate a large amount of jobs. It's not just going to be in
- 8:14Ejaaz: one industry or one vertical, it's going to be across the entire board.
- 8:18Ejaaz: And actually, Elon had a very poignant tweet that he put out here,
- 8:21Ejaaz: which was he said, all jobs will be optional, there will be universal high income.
- 8:26Ejaaz: And this was in response to Carpathie releasing this report.
- 8:29Ejaaz: And the point that he's making here is no job is safe.
- 8:32Ejaaz: But equally, the optimistic take is in a world where no job is safe and humans
- 8:36Ejaaz: don't really have a purpose when it comes to whether it's physical or software
- 8:41Ejaaz: based labor, they will still get paid not just a basic income,
- 8:45Ejaaz: but a very high amount of money, which I'm still trying to wrap my head around
- 8:49Ejaaz: and understand, but it gives us a more optimistic end to this story.
- 8:52Josh: Yeah. And some caveats too, this doesn't cover the entire US job economy.
- 8:56Josh: I mean, the way it works is the data source you scraped 342 occupations from
- 9:00Josh: the Bureau of Labor Statistics. And this covers about 143 million total U.S. jobs.
- 9:05Josh: And then he fed that into ChatGPT, scored each one.
- 9:09Josh: So this is a very generalized approach that isn't quite accurate,
- 9:12Josh: but it's enough to make you think about it, right?
- 9:14Josh: It's enough to kind of give you a generalized sense of where things are going, who's most affected.
- 9:18Josh: Overall, the weighted average of the AI impact was 4.9 out of 10.
- 9:23Josh: So almost everyone is feeling the effect of this to some extent.
- 9:27Josh: Jobs paying over $100,000 a year, like we mentioned, 6.7, which is much higher
- 9:31Josh: than jobs paying under $35,000 a year, which is 3.4.
- 9:35Josh: And then 42% of all jobs scored seven or higher, representing 60 million workers
- 9:40Josh: and $3.7 trillion in wages.
- 9:43Josh: So the impact is real. I think when you talk to people who are employing AI,
- 9:49Josh: they're not quite seeing the productive output just yet, whereas replacing jobs.
- 9:52Josh: But the impact of this was clearly noticed because shortly after publishing
- 9:56Josh: this, Andre deleted it. He took down the entire thing.
- 9:59Ejaaz: He deleted it because of this exact response that it conjured up.
- 10:03Ejaaz: Everyone started freaking out and thinking, oh my God, my job has a 50% risk
- 10:07Ejaaz: of getting replaced by AI.
- 10:08Ejaaz: I don't know how much time I have left. I should start panicking.
- 10:11Ejaaz: And the reason why he deleted it was he said, listen, this was a two-hour Vibe-coded
- 10:15Ejaaz: project that I did over the weekend.
- 10:17Ejaaz: I didn't even announce it online. You guys just found it and you've massively
- 10:21Ejaaz: extrapolated it into your own story and caused fear.
- 10:25Ejaaz: And his point is, this is based off of raw data. But again, we don't quite know
- 10:29Ejaaz: how any of this is going to pan out. and I'm likely going to be very wrong about it.
- 10:33Ejaaz: The point he made was, although these jobs are exposed to AI,
- 10:36Ejaaz: it's not necessarily going to take away people's jobs.
- 10:39Ejaaz: It's going to evolve those roles into different kinds of jobs.
- 10:42Ejaaz: Like for example, if we take software engineering, everyone's freaking out about AI replacing coders.
- 10:48Ejaaz: The truth is the coders will just become managers of AI agents that do the code for them.
- 10:54Ejaaz: Have we ever had a job like that before? No. So it's the same as like the industrial
- 10:57Ejaaz: revolution where we have this like weird evolutionary period but we don't quite
- 11:01Ejaaz: know what's happening, but we know that hopefully we're going to be okay by the end of it.
- 11:04Josh: Yeah, and he followed up that original post with, the exposure was scored by
- 11:08Josh: an LLM based on how digital the job is.
- 11:09Josh: This has no bearing on what actually happens to these occupations,
- 11:12Josh: which has to do with demand, elasticity, and a lot more. This is...
- 11:17Josh: Noteworthy. And I think, again, the backlash comes from, there are strong headwinds
- 11:22Josh: that point the opposite direction, right?
- 11:23Josh: Like just recently we had a jobs report that came out in February where the
- 11:27Josh: US economy lost 92,000 jobs in February on unemployment rate.
- 11:31Josh: It ticked back up to 4.4%. Healthcare, which was an industry that was really
- 11:35Josh: holding the jobs economy together, it shed 28,000 jobs in February and December
- 11:42Josh: was then revised down to lose 17,000.
- 11:44Josh: So unemployment rate is much higher.
- 11:46Josh: I mean, when you look at this chart, if you scroll down just a little bit more,
- 11:49Josh: it shows there's some serious losses that haven't been happening in a couple years.
- 11:53Josh: Is this a lagging indicator of the overhiring that happened in COVID?
- 11:57Josh: Is this an effect of AI? It's probably a mixture of sorts.
- 12:01Josh: We can go to our friends over at Polymarket to kind of seek truth and understand
- 12:04Josh: this a little bit better.
- 12:05Josh: And we'll take a look at this Poly Market that shows how many jobs will be added in March.
- 12:09Josh: Now, you'll notice the number was much higher recently
- 12:12Josh: before crashing down um of 50 to
- 12:15Josh: 100k we were at what it was 44 and
- 12:19Josh: now it's dropped down to significantly less
- 12:22Josh: uh under 30 so it looks like the polymarket
- 12:26Josh: is kind of guiding towards a worse jobs report than we think how high will u.s
- 12:31Josh: employment go in 2026 there is a 58 chance now that it will be up to over five
- 12:36Josh: percent um which is noteworthy because we're currently at 4.4 so this is a trend
- 12:40Josh: that polymarket sees happening and then i guess we have to ask the question.
- 12:44Josh: Will there be a u.s recession caused by this by the end of 2026 thankfully
- 12:47Josh: the number is staying strong at 31 and trending
- 12:50Josh: downwards it looks like over the course of the time that this market's been
- 12:53Josh: in place so it seems like maybe we're losing some jobs but it's not going to
- 12:57Josh: cause recession and it's just it's a good time to learn how to use these ai
- 13:01Josh: tools leverage them for your own well-being for your own productive gain and
- 13:05Josh: thank you very much for polymarket for sponsoring this part of episode.
- 13:08Ejaaz: I think it's important to mention that Carpity's report doesn't live in a silo.
- 13:14Ejaaz: There are a bunch of other reports and studies which actually confirm his data.
- 13:19Ejaaz: Anthropic themselves released a study a few weeks ago, which looked at the labor market impacts of AI.
- 13:24Ejaaz: And they had this pretty crazy chart on the left here, which basically shows
- 13:29Ejaaz: the ability for AI to automate particular jobs or skills.
- 13:34Ejaaz: So like business and finance, computer and math, you'll see the blue section
- 13:38Ejaaz: shows that AI can basically do a lot of that job right now.
- 13:41Ejaaz: And then the red basically shows how much AI has actually penetrated that particular
- 13:47Ejaaz: job or market in the real world.
- 13:49Ejaaz: So the point being made here is AI today can actually do a lot of the work that
- 13:54Ejaaz: a lot of human employees and workers do.
- 13:57Ejaaz: It just hasn't diffused yet, which is a lot of scarier of a proposition than I initially thought.
- 14:03Ejaaz: I thought, okay, well, AI isn't just smart enough yet. And so it's going to take some time.
- 14:07Ejaaz: But the truth is, it's already here. We just haven't dispersed it into everyone's
- 14:12Ejaaz: hands just yet. And it's more of an adoption issue going forwards.
- 14:15Josh: And this is the take I think a lot of people might not realize when they want to ask AI to slow down.
- 14:21Josh: They want to decelerate. And the reality is that these models are so powerful
- 14:25Josh: now, and they're so capable, that it's no longer a matter of increased intelligence.
- 14:29Josh: It's more a matter of diffusion.
- 14:30Josh: I find that most of the impact that AI will have on the world around us we have
- 14:36Josh: the models that are sufficient in order to act that enact that change it's like.
- 14:40Josh: What do we need more intelligent models for? Solving new physics,
- 14:43Josh: solving new math, solving new science for solving novel breakthroughs.
- 14:46Josh: But the things that we do every day, it's really a dispersion problem.
- 14:49Josh: It's a matter of getting the AI into these systems and automating them because
- 14:53Josh: it exists today. It is here.
- 14:55Josh: And I think one of the I mean, if you don't believe us, we can defer to Elon's
- 14:59Josh: post, which I think was one of the more noteworthy comments on this whole Andre
- 15:04Josh: story, because he replied to it saying all jobs will be optional.
- 15:08Josh: There will be universal high income.
- 15:09Josh: And I think he really believes this. I've listened to Elon in a series of conversations
- 15:14Josh: in which he's kind of laid out the path for the future and what that looks like.
- 15:17Josh: And it seems like it's going to be a very difficult train to stop,
- 15:21Josh: particularly once we get humanoid robots.
- 15:24Josh: So one of the problems with this publication that a lot of people mentioned
- 15:27Josh: on X is that it doesn't factor into account what the world looks like.
- 15:31Josh: Once AI breaks out of its box, once there are physical robots kind of moving
- 15:35Josh: around, once there are robots in factories, robots going down the street.
- 15:39Josh: Recently, last weekend, Travis Kalanick released his new company,
- 15:43Josh: the founder of Uber. He created the follow-up called Atoms.
- 15:45Josh: And Atoms is entirely based around moving these physical atoms and automating
- 15:50Josh: the movement of these atoms.
- 15:51Josh: So I think as we start to move forward into the Elon-based world,
- 15:55Josh: into the Travis-based world, where the AI breaks out of the box.
- 15:59Josh: Oh yeah, here we have it here.
- 15:59Josh: This is the vision from Travis Kalanick's new company named Atoms.
- 16:03Josh: And the idea is that AI is breaking out of a box. It is becoming physically
- 16:07Josh: manifested through these robots,
- 16:08Josh: these robots will become so efficient that the cost of doing a productive service
- 16:13Josh: or task will basically collapse to the net goods, the cost of the net goods
- 16:17Josh: and the cost of the energy expenditure.
- 16:19Josh: And that labor cost will be removed from the equation. And a lot of these people
- 16:23Josh: are betting their entire companies on this equation being true.
- 16:25Ejaaz: The craziest part, just going back to this Anthropic report,
- 16:28Ejaaz: Josh, is this came from a frontier AI lab. So they're building the tools
- 16:34Ejaaz: that's going to replace or automate a bunch of this stuff.
- 16:37Ejaaz: So it's a stark display of honesty and transparency, which I'm quite impressed by.
- 16:44Ejaaz: But the other point I want to make, and I want to end on a positive note,
- 16:48Ejaaz: is I think a lot of this AI stuff is going to result in more demand for human
- 16:55Ejaaz: jobs, which might be a very hot take at this point.
- 16:58Ejaaz: But I think, what's the law, Josh, where if we have more of the thing,
- 17:04Ejaaz: it actually leads to a higher demand?
- 17:06Josh: That is Jevons Paradox, my friend.
- 17:08Ejaaz: Thank you, Jevons Paradox. So Jevons Paradox basically states that if you have
- 17:13Ejaaz: more supply of something, let's say more compute out there, you might argue
- 17:18Ejaaz: that, okay, well, it's going to cheapen the use of AI.
- 17:21Ejaaz: The result is often the opposite, which is more people can do things with this
- 17:26Ejaaz: cheap AI. So they start creating more jobs and more use cases and consumption
- 17:30Ejaaz: and production absolutely go exponential.
- 17:33Ejaaz: And that's what I think is going to happen in the job market.
- 17:36Ejaaz: I think initially we're going to come across a bit of turmoil because people
- 17:39Ejaaz: don't really know what that next level of their job looks like.
- 17:43Ejaaz: But once things settle, once the dust settles and once people realize,
- 17:46Ejaaz: oh, we're living in this new world where AI agents can do things for me,
- 17:49Ejaaz: where my personal agent can handle all my payments and shopping and all that
- 17:53Ejaaz: kind of stuff for me, it frees you up to do much larger, bigger things.
- 17:56Ejaaz: Everyone can Vibe code their own app or product or launch their own company
- 17:59Ejaaz: and run it completely by themselves.
- 18:01Ejaaz: And that's a new world order, which I don't think people have wrapped their heads around.
- 18:05Ejaaz: I certainly haven't. I don't really know what that looks like,
- 18:07Ejaaz: but I do think it's gonna result in more jobs and maybe even higher pay per person.
- 18:12Ejaaz: I think people will become smarter as a result of AI and become more productive.
- 18:16Josh: And it's okay that we don't know what it looks like and I wouldn't expect anyone
- 18:20Josh: to know what it looks like. We're going from a very certain thing to a very uncertain thing.
- 18:24Josh: We know what the jobs market looks like. We had a very clear projection of what
- 18:27Josh: was going to happen and now that has changed.
- 18:29Josh: Does it mean that it will result in less jobs perhaps in the intermediary,
- 18:33Josh: in certain subcategories?
- 18:35Josh: Net net at the end of this, I mean, we've just, we've continued to evolve.
- 18:39Josh: We've gone through the agricultural revolution, the industrial revolution,
- 18:42Josh: each one of those times jobs disappeared and then reappeared in so much more abundance.
- 18:48Josh: And every time there is more opportunities, there are more fun opportunities.
- 18:52Josh: I mean, we solve a series of pretty mediocre problems. How many people really
- 18:55Josh: grow up wanting to be a medical transcriber? Is that your dream?
- 18:59Josh: Perhaps not. Perhaps it just enables you to do something that is more valuable,
- 19:03Josh: more exciting, more interesting.
- 19:04Josh: And I think we're going to continue to see that across the stack.
- 19:06Josh: So it's scary because it's uncertain.
- 19:08Josh: But I think the one certain thing is that we have continued to evolve to create
- 19:13Josh: more ways to spend our time that yield in a better result of living,
- 19:17Josh: a better quality of life for everyone.
- 19:19Josh: And I guess that's the optimistic hopeful take at the end is things will be
- 19:22Josh: uncertain. Things will be weird.
- 19:23Josh: It's moving very quickly. It's changing quickly, but hopefully everyone wins.
- 19:26Josh: And at the worst case scenario, Elon's giving universal high income for everyone, right?
- 19:30Josh: So yeah, I know. I'll take care of it. Yeah.
- 19:33Ejaaz: So to summarize, if you are a college grad right now, and you're freaking out
- 19:39Ejaaz: about what job you're going to have, the most highest leverage thing you can
- 19:42Ejaaz: do, even if you are currently employed, is to start using these AI tools.
- 19:47Ejaaz: Josh and I try and use it day to day in everything that we do,
- 19:51Ejaaz: whether it's research for the podcast, or whether it's trying to help teach
- 19:55Ejaaz: us ourselves something that we don't understand.
- 19:57Ejaaz: We use it for everything. And the point is, the earlier you can start using
- 20:01Ejaaz: these tools, the more acquainted you're going to become with what this new world
- 20:04Ejaaz: order is going to look like.
- 20:05Ejaaz: And the better proposed you are to evolving into whatever that job eventually
- 20:10Ejaaz: becomes. The jobs that you're probably going to take in the future probably
- 20:13Ejaaz: haven't even existed yet or haven't even been created yet.
- 20:16Ejaaz: So there is a cautiously optimistic approach to all of this.
- 20:20Ejaaz: And I truly think that if you use the tools, you will better set yourself up for success.
- 20:25Josh: Very well said. And if you're interested to see just how affected your industry
- 20:28Josh: is, we'll include a link to this project in the description so you can go and
- 20:32Josh: check it out for yourself.
- 20:33Josh: I would love to know what profession you're in.
- 20:35Josh: How cooked are you? How affected are you?
- 20:39Josh: If are you one of these yeah are you in the box are you one of these people
- 20:43Josh: uh let us know i'd love to know kind of what everyone's up to what is their
- 20:46Josh: exposure if they're worried or not i think there is a lot of worry um but some
- 20:50Josh: people also are kind of pragmatic about it they're like hey i'm actually using
- 20:53Josh: ai and it's making my job better it's making me better at my job so actually that's a good point like.
- 20:56Ejaaz: Are you using it in your job right now if you're if you see your job here and
- 21:00Ejaaz: it's red like are you do you see the opposite like are you getting more productive i'm curious
- 21:04Josh: Would love to know but that wraps up our andre carpathy
- 21:07Josh: jobs report episode um thank you as always for watching
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- 21:38Ejaaz: Just one last thing. There's 3,500 newbies here, right? Is that right?
- 21:42Ejaaz: Did I get that figure right?
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