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Jamal Roberts: From Abandonment to American Idol · Love You Moore with Willie Moore Jr.

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  [SPEAKER_05]: Next on the Love You Morsion.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: It probably be general, man.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: This man came into my life and man had been like a big brother to me.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Wrong.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Let me start by saying this first.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not trying to hurt nobody feelings, but when it's your story, it's your story.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: My dad got custody of me and my oldest brother when we was young.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: He was four.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I was two.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: My stepmom raised me.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: What was going through my mind is why my mom not here.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And the voice.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So what song that you didn't know in a being one of the ones like, oh, I feel this, giving a little bit of
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Coming up next on the Love You More Show.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey family, Willie Moore, Jr.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: here.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, have you all ever had like dreams, goals, and aspirations, and sometimes it just feel like, man, this thing delayed.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, to be honest, some of us, if we can be honest, sometimes we'll be looking at God like God, really, are you serious?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, when he gives you talent, when he gives you a gift, and the Bible declared that your gift is going to make room for you, you kind of waiting on like, okay, now which room you talking about?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Because some rooms kind of feel like, you know what, this has to be the room.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: and then it's plagued with disappointment.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This has to be the relationship and then you realize, man, this is disappointing.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And then you keep living and you go through the ends and flows of life and then finally.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: The room that was designed for you, it shows up.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: The question becomes, in the midst of the journey, are you ready for the opportunity?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's often said that if you stay ready, you ain't got to get ready.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the gentleman that I'm about to speak with today is one of the men that I've had the opportunity to watch online for a long time, right?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: A person who has been consistent with his gift.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And finally, the room opened up and he showed up big and America decided to show up with
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Family be a American idol champion and just a brother who I like to say he crossed over But he brought the crossover the one and only Jamal Roberts is hanging out with me now.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What's going on?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, bro.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Frost over buddy brought that cross over.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, sir.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Congratulations man.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody in the room show some love.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Bro, listen, of course.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you know, but I want to all miss.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a Mississippi boy.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: My family like right there in Philadelphia, not to pay the air.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, when they said that man was from a really a Mississippi man.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I almost blew my top.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for bringing it to the end time.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Indeed.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So how does it feel for you, man?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a big turning point that you've had so far.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I've been saying it's quite often now.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I still have it has a setting yet after going on different shows after American Idol.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a dream.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm able to see the dream manifest right before my eyes and I'm witnessing God do everything that he promised.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So it's like a sit back and just
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Enjoy the right type field.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: It's not know.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I just want to American Idaho who's not even that.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just God order my steps and now I'm here.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, come on.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Talk to that talk.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't know if you had the opportunity to watch the love you more show, but what we like to do is we like to have an icebreaker.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Some icebreakers I'll be very honest with you.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes it's a corny joke and then it's kind of a delay laugh you like.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, because you are a musician and I'm a musician, we decided to do music.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And so in this particular song, he talks about a turning point.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Take a listen.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Check this out.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, when I left that church, my life had changed forever.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I realized that moments quickly become mirrors.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's important that you spend great moments with your loved ones, because you just don't ever know.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of loved ones, I was getting picked up by one of my favorite, but not so favorite uncles, Uncle G. I mean, he owes school, driver Cadillac had to the back, and he not needed to help, but he's still a good guy.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's sometimes joked too quick.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But the truth is, he's exactly what I needed during this time to bring me back to Earth.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He walks up, and he says,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you alright, sir?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, it's tough.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He can tell you.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I know it, but it's a part of life.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He says.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't worry about a thing.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's in a better place.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm crazy, right?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why they say in a better place.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He in a box.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But you know, you see I got your laughing already.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Laughter is healing for the soul.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: No matter what it is, laugh it off.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Keep laughing your life no matter what you do.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Now get your punk ass in the car.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Get your ass in the car, Junior.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Why?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I see a lot of people don't understand again, right?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's no stability in this guy while you live in off-road.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a dream, you have a saying.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If you go by your news, if you don't eat, that's all.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It do get hard for you, so I'm sorry.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you the real.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Steady striving for start, I'm only fortunate in fame.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: All my plays, I'm smiling in my heart, it's pain.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I promise that times I wanna break down No one loves you, maybe This time I'm going up and going back down If you believe, you'll do what you believe Taking private precautions Time's getting harder Do what we gotta do in the feed I saw us and know us You already saw us and blah blah Then you got your word You just told me to claim it And I saw that girl Living in my steady street, nobody
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's turning point.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Available now, wherever you get your music, make sure you're streaming.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Jamal, that song speaks about a turning point.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We look back at the archives of your career and you've tried so many different times to be on certain platforms and then finally God gives you that turning point.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Not only did he give you a turning point, he put it on one of the biggest platforms across the world.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: With this turning point, how does Jamal steward it correctly to make sure that there's a lasting legacy?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Not only for him, before the great state of Mississippi, Maria and his children and his family, how does Jamal see that turning point being something that his family can hold to longer than just this moment?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Man, my grandmother used to always tell me this, and if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: But before American Idol before Sunday Biz, for any of this singing gigs, I always put God first.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: He's always been ahead of my life.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And I just, I still believe, you know, if I put God first, and I keep allowing him to lead me in the right direction, and everything else going fall in place.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you meant so faithful to your walk and stand true to who you are.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about early beginning with your mom.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, you know, my mom and dad, Mississippi, Louisiana, you know, they adopted me when I was three months old.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So that was always a strong prayer life in the family who influenced you to be this virgin or yourself the most.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I would say, you know, I wasn't a PK, but I might as well.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I was with my granddad and he's a bishop.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So we was in church every time I don't open.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I was a deacon.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I was an usher.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I was a drum.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I played the keys and I sang.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So I did all.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So it was definitely my grandparents pushing me.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: They raised me basically.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: My dad.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: My mom separated, but then my step mom stepped in and raised me.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: The best she could.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: She loved us like she was like we was her own and I never seen a loving person like she was like this lady was
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  [SPEAKER_06]: the light of the world.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You would think that she birthed us and she didn't have any kids.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: She couldn't have kids, but she loved us like we was our own and she passed during COVID during the tape and of Sunday best the last season.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't feel like you know, I grieved well.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't grieve the right way.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't, I don't
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I still haven't accepted the fact that she lived, you know, it's like the good people getting taken away so easy and you wonder why, how are you gonna make it?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Or how are you just gonna keep going?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: That was a show that I cried on.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So when I lost that show to the crowd on, all my tears were stuck.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: It's like I can trust nobody else.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm raising girls now.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't want them seeing me cry.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I'm trying to be the rock.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm trying to be that support.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just trying to be everything for my daughters.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So I will say,
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  [SPEAKER_06]: My relationship with God and been able to, well, he gave me permission to heal.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So once I heal from that and realize that, you know, everything, not gonna be peaches and cream is not gonna go the way I wanted to go.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: But we gotta have those tests in order to have a testimony.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So now that's why I'm here today to tell you my testimony that somebody else had to make an overconf for my testimony.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So it's not gonna be easy.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: It's not always gonna be comfortable.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So, but you just got to just, you got to heal.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Not as real.
• 9:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of healing, you know, that's what this show was all about.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: People who've been through hurts habits, hangups and their journey to be able to get back to their healing.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: You talked a little bit about, you know, separation and just how that affected and then got sent this angel into your life through a step mama.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: How do you think the effects of that kind of shaped your heart?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Because we see you as a father.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a father of four.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So when I say you would tell two girls, I'm like, yeah, baby, come on.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Show the strong black, black family.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But how does that separation shape the strong connection now that you have with your daughters?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I wasn't always, you know, I wasn't always so sensitive.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I think I haven't girls and brought out a more sensitive side to me, man.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I was a hard body.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I was doing whatever.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: But she taught me how to love properly.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: She, she, yeah, she taught me how to love properly so that that way I can love my girls the way I do.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: The relationship thing still ain't worked out yet.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: God ain't stepped in today.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we went on the line.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: It's in transit.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: It's what they say.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: It's in transit.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but I'll say, I would say that he placed that in my life for a reason for for a moment is this.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: She was sweet.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: She was
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  [SPEAKER_06]: She was everything you could think of at my young age.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And I could honestly say if she hadn't been there.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I would not be here, who I am today.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: And she hadn't believed in me from the age of two.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I wouldn't be right here where I am today, because nobody pushed me like she did.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Nobody believed in me like she did.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: When I thought, oh, no, I'm not doing that.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't even look right doing that.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: She was like, yes, you do.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, you can do it.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, something I used to have self-confidence problems.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I used to.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, nah, I'm straight.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Let them do it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, no, baby, you can do it.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You can do it.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Just do this.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And you can do anything.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You picture mine too.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And I always be there to support you.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, she was always there.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And she's there.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Tabata.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: It's Tabata.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, she never went back on the words.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: She always kept her wearing it.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: That's one of my, in my worried and my bun.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: If I tell you something, I'm gonna do it.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, and that's just, that was just some of the things she taught me.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Why not trying to teach me?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You understand?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I picked up on all those, all those things just by her just living her.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: No, my life.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if Ms.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Tabitha had the opportunity because I do believe that she just has a better seat than all of us.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: She gets an opportunity to see her from above.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I view if there was some words that Ms.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Tabitha will probably speak to you right now.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What would she say about the version of your mom right now?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: She said, boy, you did it.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: She said, you probably said your mom still looks too smart.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: But what you're working on, and she probably want to see her grand babies, man, she met Harmony.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: When Harmony was born, she didn't, she haven't met Leary, oh my God.
• 12:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: She would've, when crazy over Leary, and she haven't met my newborn, Gianna.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So you have three, I have three girls.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's good stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So now you have three girls.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So let me tell you, I had three boys first.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Now my oldest one, he just graduated from the University of Mississippi.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I went to Ole Miss and then I have a sixteen year old.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's a senior who like to take his shirt off because he got muscles.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Now we pray and right.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And then of course I have a ten year old boy and I have my girl at the end of the journey.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: and that changed everything.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It brought the sensitive guy out that I didn't even know existed.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Hell, I was in there playing net, don't, don't put me in make me go viral.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But I was the same like daddy, you have to do my nails.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, well, I'm in here doing nails.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So when you see that relationship and it grows for me, I just desire because I uncomfortable.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I desire to have a woman like Tableta in the life of my children.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Just your mom have a goal for what he wants and what type of woman he wants in the life of his children.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Or is he looking just to be with the mother of his child?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: How does that work?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm looking for a woman that understands.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: There's not quick to do this and that, not quick to judge, understand the relationship I have with my kids and understand that my kids are my life and they are my world.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm gonna do anything I can for my kids, but also to be there to be a rock, not much as
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Not saying be a housewife.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not saying that.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just saying be those things that I need.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And this journey, a lot of obstacles are going to come.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And one thing I don't need is to person that I'm trusting and the person that's on my side, looking at these screens because of some outdoor stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Keep it in home.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Let's, we should be like this.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: We should be locked and loaded.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm letting that outside stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm very vocal.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm very vocal.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: If I did something, I tell you I did it.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, some having, I say, hey, it happened.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: It didn't come out of my mouth.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't do it.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: That's my story.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm sticking with it, but you know, that's it.
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's like it.
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, uh, but I just want to.
• 14:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: She ain't got to be so touchy feelings she ain't want to because sometimes I need my space.
• 14:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: I like to go fishing.
• 14:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: I like to play basketball.
• 14:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: Do all the outside stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, she ain't got to be up on the me out there.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: She don't want to give you your space.
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: You give me my space.
• 14:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: They don't need me going outside and doing.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: Don't have no better doing.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying?
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 14:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: We always know a home man.
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: Come back home now.
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not as real.
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So how does Jamal find a suitable help mate?
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now dead.
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of fame.
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you know, I always try to build a bridge with testimony, right?
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm twenty two years old.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I signed a one point two million dollar deal.
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: The whole city going crazy.
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hell, I'm pretty will.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now as you can see now, the pretty gone, but I'm holding on to hand some pretty good.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get that out the way.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I signed this record deal and everybody thinks that I'm over rich.
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like all of a sudden, it's like a one point two million dollar deal.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, yeah, probably only about about seventy five grand is mine.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: How do you manage expectation when it comes to a woman?
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Especially coming from a small town like Meridian?
• 15:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, I'm a Mississippi boy, automatically is like, y'all know your mom rich Tuesday.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, how do you manage expectations with a woman who may think that you are a lot further than you are?
• 15:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, well, technically, you know, Bible says a man that's fine.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: And since I'm not looking, you know, I'm just, you know, I'm just,
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm chilling.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: We already know what comes with it.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: We know how women are.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: Some of my vultures.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: Some of them don't take no for an answer.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: We just got just got to keep my head on straight.
• 15:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: Keep it on the swivel.
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: Man, there's something.
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: So when it comes to music now, what type of album are you looking to do?
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because we've seen you do a plethora of music, but all over social media, all I ever seen you do was give God the price.
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: Man, I'm always give God praise, but I'm a
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm a soul singer man with gospel roots.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm gonna do R&B.
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm gonna do R&B.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: If it comes down to it, I'm gonna do a little rock.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm gonna do a little roll.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm gonna do a little rock.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm gonna do a little country.
• 16:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: But I'm a, I'm a, I'm a gospel, I'm a soul singer with gospel roots.
• 16:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's out of there.
• 16:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, so when you see like the industry now, it's like, are there any artists that you like, man, a farce dude?
• 16:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to work with is, oh, farce woman.
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to work with is who would that be?
• 16:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, woman, woman is going to be advantage out of the, out of the end.
• 16:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I think the world went no then.
• 16:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: out of the gate, it's gonna be fantastic.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: We connect, we connect like this.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: We both got stores, we both got that pain and our voice.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I got pain, and I keep it balled up, but it helps me.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: It helps me navigate through these songs.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: It helps me paint the pictures.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying?
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: All pain is not good pain, but some pain is good.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's good to hold on to so you don't know.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, but the guy, if I would be general, man, this man came into my life and man had been like a big brother to me all throughout the show.
• 17:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: He didn't care.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's that man is authentic.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's real.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: He gonna tell you how he is.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he just was, he just been mine like a big brother to me.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, wait, just for a moment.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can you subscribe to this channel?
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know this conversation is getting real good, but it can get better if you can be a part of all the conversation.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So hit all three of my buttons, subscribe, comment, and like.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just believe by faith that we're going to take this show all around the world.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Cause honestly, if people know about it, they're going to feel it in the show.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not just like you.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: So subscribe now.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now back to the show.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Flat out.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's so cool.
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, when you think about the names that you saying that, being in your car with me sharing your videos, man, yeah, I checked the dude out to not saying casually.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jelly roll like my big brother, man.
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like when I look at that reality, it's just a hand of God, man.
• 18:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just so amazing to see.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because literally, I remember watching and seeing this dude in the car, my dog got a really dope voice.
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, y'all got to see this dude.
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it from Mississippi somewhere, man.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And to be able to see what God has done now, I always felt the pain in your voice.
• 18:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was something about the pain that connected people.
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I believe pain points are a bridge to a person's heart.
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can you talk about some of the pain that you pull from some time?
• 18:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Instead of using drugs or other stuff that the other people may use you use it through singing, where do you pull this pain from?
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So for me, my pain is adoption.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had never met anybody in my mother in my life.
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: So when I go out and speak,
• 18:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I pull from a place where these angels now is in verse, periods and combos.
• 18:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I say, listen, you can bring anybody in.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: They can beat me now as in verse, but they can't beat what this transformation and work is going to do because of what I've been through.
• 18:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are some of the things that you pull from when you go on that mic and go on that stage?
• 19:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, uh, let's talk about saying this first.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not not trying to hurt nobody feeling as well.
• 19:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: When it's your story, it's your story, you know what I'm saying?
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: So my dad got custody of me and my oldest brother when we was younger.
• 19:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: He was four.
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was two.
• 19:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: And my, like I said, my stepmom raised me.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: My.
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: What was going through my mind is why my mom not here.
• 19:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, how did.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: Because I got kids and I'm not going to let my kids go nowhere.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying?
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: How did you get comfortable now?
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: So let us just slip.
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: through the cracks and my dad had taken full custody.
• 19:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, no visitations.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't see you, you know, stuff like that.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: It bothers me a little bit because I know that if I was fighting for my kids, we still gonna be fighting.
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, ain't no giving up.
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just saying, but you gave a sub.
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: Not saying gay because I don't know the story.
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: I really don't care.
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't want to know it right now because it's over.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying?
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: But we whip my dad.
• 20:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's not in the motion of person.
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: He don't not a love for real.
• 20:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: You gave us a, I'm thinking, okay, she couldn't handle it.
• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: But then you go when you have more kids.
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then you, we hear, we still hear over here with my dad.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, how does that work?
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like what's going through your head?
• 20:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, was we not good enough?
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying?
• 20:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm like,
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: What did we do so bad to make you abandon us and then go have more kids?
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't click with me.
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: I still ain't clicked it yet.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: But I pulled from there.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: I pulled from abandonment.
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: That was, that was, I was abandoned.
• 20:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: I felt like I was abandoned.
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: Um, but like I said, I don't know the story.
• 20:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I also said I don't want hurting them by the feelings.
• 21:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, but it's my story and this is how I look at it.
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Um, my dad was always there.
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's a man.
• 21:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right, right.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying.
• 21:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's a man, man.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: He don't know how to show his sense to the side at all.
• 21:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: I could count how many hugs I got from my dad.
• 21:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying?
• 21:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: He want to light it.
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: And that's why I'm raising my tears and different.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: Even if it was boys, I'd be the same one when your face, you know, the whole time.
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: But I think it was a lot of
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: miscommunication there my grandma tried to tell me the story so many times without telling.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: Every time because of young young kids at the time.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: But like my grandmother passed right after my step my parents.
• 21:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: So it was her boom boom and it was all during Sunday.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: Some pulling from that.
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm pulling from my granddaddy.
• 21:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: My granddaddy was hurt so bad.
• 21:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: He was used to work with asphalt.
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: He got one of the most powerful testimonies in the world.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: He fell in the truck.
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: I remember his day clears day and I won them like five or six years old.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: He fell in the truck in the hot asphalt.
• 22:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: Then have no help getting out.
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: When he got out the truck, I all the skin.
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like he literally walked in the hospital with just bones.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: I remember clear as day and he had like, oh, heart attacks and like six strokes.
• 22:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he was paralyzed on the right side.
• 22:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: My grandma was blind.
• 22:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: So the one she can do.
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: So we had to go over there.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, he appeared with the doctors say we had to screw up his legs so that they won't get affected.
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's just that ain't nothing I already there.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: He was just be screaming in Holland because it would hurt.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: And man here in this voice cry like that.
• 22:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: But he's still he never lost faith.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: He knew he would get better.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: And to this day he live it all the skin back on his bones.
• 22:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he was he moving around.
• 22:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: But I was like man here in my grenade of cry.
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: I like that.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: And we in the next room and my dad having a screw.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: So it won't get infected.
• 23:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: Man.
• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's that's that's I don't know how he endured that.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: His faith was really tested.
• 23:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: And that's kind of what that come from for me.
• 23:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's why my faith's so strong.
• 23:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: I believe in God can do anything.
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: And if he can do that, if he can pull a man out of asphalt by himself, he didn't have no help.
• 23:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: After four heart attacks and six strokes and was paralyzed on one side, surely.
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 23:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Surely he can do this.
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Surely he can do this.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think what's so profound is that
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's such a mature age.
• 23:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Younger.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: God gave you some experiences to pull from.
• 23:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the wisdom part of it is that you're smarter enough to pull from it.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: You realize that life is not happening to you.
• 23:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's actually happening for you.
• 23:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: So when you can pull from no circumstances and tell my people on the other side of the camera, maybe just maybe you can maybe stop looking at the situation that you're going through thinking to yourself, man, why does happening to me and seeing if you can use this as fuel?
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because ultimately these testimonies are for you to be able to overcome.
• 24:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think you and I, we share a bridge that I didn't know we share.
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Traditionally when I do these interviews, I make sure that I don't watch a whole bunch of interviews because I like to get the know the person as we begin to talk outside of what they do professionally.
• 24:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when you said that, I just wanted to know like why it was okay to let me go.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then keep, you know, then keep having children.
• 24:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: So in twenty twenty, what
• 24:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I go to try to find my biological mother.
• 24:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: They say they find her, but she says she don't want to meet me.
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that was tough.
• 24:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: By now I'm saying, you know, I feel with the Holy Ghost.
• 24:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, I love God, but the wrong thing keep happening.
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I got a decision to make.
• 24:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can even keep going back to what I truly know how to do or be hustling to whatever it's a club promoting.
• 25:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I just kept rolling down that Christian wall in twenty twenty during COVID.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: We get the birth certificate and that ended up finding my biological mother.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the first thing she was able to tell me was I apologize.
• 25:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And once I heard the story, I got a chance to get solid singing because I wasn't mad at her because I had a dope tablet there in my life.
• 25:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Floor Moore, I had a dope dad, Willy Mo sing.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's why I called myself Willy Mo Jr.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because I don't never want nobody to think that I'm half the man that this X-shirt cropping has ever been.
• 25:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: He a army man.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: He woke up early.
• 25:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: He kept his word.
• 25:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I learned everything from him.
• 25:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm a whole donut that sure you got to call me Jr.
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because he sang you.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
• 25:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I meet this lady.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she said I was a kid.
• 25:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was nineteen years old.
• 25:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just had one child.
• 25:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I never saw you.
• 25:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just want to apologize.
• 25:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when she apologized, I understood.
• 25:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I've been nineteen years old.
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I could have had two children.
• 26:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she had so much remorse.
• 26:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it gave me so much pieces, so much solace.
• 26:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because I was able to get the answers that I live with with a question mark for so many years.
• 26:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you desire to ever have a great conversation with mom to try to get the true story good or bad?
• 26:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you can kind of have a period where a question mark is.
• 26:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: I actually don't, you know, I never long for what happened.
• 26:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: And if I, I felt like if she wanted me to know she would have been told because I mean, she's in my life now.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: And she's in my kids life.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like if it was really deep.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, she would have told me, you know, she would have just came.
• 26:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's got to be some deeper than that.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't care to find out because my life now is my life and all those mistakes a pain paved the road and made me who I am today.
• 26:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I don't want to put no more payment on the road.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
• 26:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm fine.
• 26:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: So when we look at the future, you got these beautiful daughters.
• 26:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now you see the musical gift at any of your daughters as well.
• 26:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, man, once I get past the sands and the attitude, they got, they got, they can, they can, they can hold a little note.
• 27:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 27:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you sit down in the American Idol stage.
• 27:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: How do they pick the songs for you or do you pick yourself?
• 27:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're giving a list.
• 27:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
• 27:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: And me being a church kid, I didn't know nothing that was on the list.
• 27:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm having a learn already songs.
• 27:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: Luckily, it was only a minute and thirty.
• 27:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I was just learning up to a minute and thirty and move on about my business.
• 27:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 27:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was just fine songs that, you know, I can resonate with something that can, I can feel, you know, something that the lyrics would speak to me.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: And that's what I was doing the whole time.
• 27:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: Every time I saw a song like, what does this song mean to me?
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: What does it tell?
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: What story does it tell?
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: Can I paint a picture with it in a minute and a third?
• 27:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: A minute and a third.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: And that's all I had in my head.
• 27:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm minute and a third.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: So with song that you didn't know in a being one of the ones like oh, I feel this which one of them songs that made you say man.
• 27:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel this one.
• 27:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, heal Now which one is the heal song was that the heal is about Tom Odeo.
• 28:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: I just released it as my new single and gave me permission It's like man.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let's go here But it was it's just it's just a simple song heal.
• 28:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: I never listened to it in my life.
• 28:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: I thought I was going to do
• 28:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: Got what song it was, but it was a way of knowing song and it was like, well, everybody do that song going to show.
• 28:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, like, well, let me go and cut that because I don't want you want to be an epidemic.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I listen to heo.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, do some with this.
• 28:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 28:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 28:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I've spoken it ain't too much in it.
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: You ain't got to say in Hollywood.
• 28:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: All that you doing is telling the story and paying the pitch.
• 28:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: Give me a little bit of I ain't never heard.
• 28:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like,
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Man, that big road.
• 29:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, man, listen, man, I just got the chills on here.
• 29:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I apologize for interrupting this amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing interview.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I want to give you an opportunity to check out some exclusive footage of Jamal Roberts and I, as we sat down and had a different conversation that went like this.
• 29:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Check this out.
• 29:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, of course, this is the inspirational format.
• 29:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: We get an opportunity to touch people all across the United States of America.
• 29:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tomorrow, Robert's being a church key.
• 29:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are the top three gospel artists that influenced Joe Sanna, a little bit?
• 29:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you guys like three artists that you listen to all the top three gospel artists in your book?
• 29:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, top three gospel artists with, uh, right now.
• 29:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right now, right now, no pressure.
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody feeling is getting hurt.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: You bought the hearing right now.
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let's do, let's do, let's do, let's do, let's do, let's do, let's do, let's do, let's do, let's do, let's do, let's do, let's do, let's do,
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you have to head over to my Patreon to find out Jamal Roberts top three gospel artists and it's such an amazing interview.
• 30:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot more exclusive content exclusively on Patreon.
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just click it.
• 30:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's in the link of the YouTube or just go right here.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Flat out.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, you know, when
• 30:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: When I hear a gift like that, I know it's hard to see the picture when you're the friend, right?
• 30:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I just know what God is going to do, bro.
• 30:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's already done it on the American idol stage, but I think the impact that you're going to make through your testimony, man, and just the people that are going to get an opportunity to see.
• 30:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: of the blood God in you, not the B-U-T-T, but the blood God in you to be able to be able to navigate through all of those waters.
• 30:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just gonna be extremely healing.
• 30:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think parents across the world are gonna be excited too.
• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not that they're gonna add any extra pressure on you to be perfect or anything.
• 31:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: But look what this boy came from and look what he can do.
• 31:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: You wanna bust, bro.
• 31:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's really, really good to see what God is actually going to do.
• 31:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I wanna talk future a little bit.
• 31:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Five years from now, you know, you know, put out these multi platinum albums.
• 31:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't travel the world.
• 31:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: You've created a record label.
• 31:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: You created opportunities from children for children all across the world and people are following your lead.
• 31:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: What do you see five years from now, man, some things that you may want to want to happen for tomorrow?
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: We just talking just a little runaway, just a little runaway in the future.
• 31:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: What do you see?
• 31:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Cause I like to come back to these things and be like, man, he said he was going to do just that.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 31:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's kind of like it's kind of like hard to answer that when like my dream is just already been
• 31:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: But dream is already came to pass.
• 31:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: So at this moment, I'm just standing like, God, whatever else you do, I'll be satisfied.
• 32:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, so Grandma used to say, you don't do another thing for me.
• 32:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: You already done it now.
• 32:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I'm just thankful.
• 32:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I would love to have some Grammys to pin up down the shelf at the house.
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's Mississippi going to be the house.
• 32:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's Mississippi going to be the house.
• 32:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's Maria.
• 32:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, you're going to get one of the grand big ones over there.
• 32:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: Everybody.
• 32:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no, it's that.
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: Mrs. Yeah, let's go have a lake.
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, love.
• 32:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I need to fish.
• 32:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: I need to fish.
• 32:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's my piece.
• 32:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, fishing is my piece.
• 32:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, a lot of people don't understand that about Mississippi, man.
• 32:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I took my purpose pointing down to a knocks a pedal.
• 32:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like to say, I like to say Louisville, I like to start with you, Mississippi.
• 32:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you're not to pay them.
• 32:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we're down there and not to pay the managers with so much peace.
• 32:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I know behind this camera, a lot of you all may say, man, he's going to be writing Mississippi.
• 32:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it's so much peace in Mississippi.
• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's one of the biggest misconceptions that people don't understand about Mississippi to you?
• 33:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm with the old men, so I'm like, hey, like you went, where am I going to understand?
• 33:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's not cool to can't say.
• 33:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we're not running from slave on this down here.
• 33:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's good for our move back to Mississippi.
• 33:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 33:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: Man, I don't know.
• 33:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
• 33:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think people here Mississippi and think of God.
• 33:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: We're doing it no more.
• 33:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: We passed that.
• 33:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't, I don't, yeah, that's what I think.
• 33:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think that all the stories they've heard in the past, then I already painted it up, pitching a minor with Mississippi.
• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Mississippi ain't that number.
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: Listen, we, we, we, I want to not own stuff now.
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: We're doing our own thing.
• 33:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, we build them.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: Uh.
• 33:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I would say, I would say they, uh, the past, they painted their own picture.
• 33:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and it just got me to see my all in shambles.
• 33:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but you switched, you switched it up, man.
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just want to tell you, man, this as we land this plane.
• 33:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I much I appreciate you, bro, being able to.
• 33:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: create a lane for kingdom people to steal being the mainstream world and steal represented hold on to your integrity.
• 34:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, my biggest prayer for you man is dead.
• 34:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing ever.
• 34:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying that you don't change, but I just pray that you continue to grow the way you grown.
• 34:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because, you know, it's no pressure at all, but I like the way you move it.
• 34:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like the fact that there are other Christian artists who have this amazing gift that they only think can be confined to the full walls of the church.
• 34:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah.
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, now, bro, like, you can cross over.
• 34:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just need you to bring that cross over.
• 34:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right?
• 34:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, just bring this beautiful balance up.
• 34:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's an evangelistic tool that we can go into a mainstream sector influenced the influence and let my life be the reflection of Christ, man.
• 34:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you know what, I've got a lot of backlash from the sanctifyful, even though I grew up in church garden Christ.
• 34:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was on the drums.
• 34:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, now these people sitting there dragging me, man.
• 34:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: And they can't be in a word because I remember Paul saying in first Corinthians, that in order to reach certain people, you have to love it down to what he is.
• 35:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, to bring them over.
• 35:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: So some of the people so say, man, they won't leave out the full walls and they want to write a church's empty.
• 35:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: They're not reaching nobody.
• 35:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: Not here reaching people.
• 35:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: Even though I say R&B, I had a gospel here and I, I hear, man, you don't know how much that change in my life.
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: You don't know how much I needed to hear that.
• 35:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: Not a coming back to the church and they doing this.
• 35:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: And so many people in the field, they said, commit suicide.
• 35:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: I get these messages all the time.
• 35:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not going to stop what I'm doing.
• 35:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 35:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not going to stop.
• 35:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 35:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: I gotta keep doing it.
• 35:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's my calling.
• 35:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 35:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: When you see the impact,
• 35:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you went from seventy five thousand people to now over half a million people on Instagram.
• 35:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure you're in box.
• 35:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just feel with so many different testimonies.
• 35:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is there a specific testimony that sticks out to you the most?
• 35:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, because I know you still on that reading, when you came in, you was on Facebook and doing that.
• 35:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is there one testimony that kind of stuck out there like, man, that hit my heart different?
• 36:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: I had a been, that was a parent.
• 36:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm thanking from Texas.
• 36:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: She inbox me one night.
• 36:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not a night person.
• 36:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: I go to sleep.
• 36:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm about my early morning person.
• 36:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: I get up, go fish.
• 36:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: But she takes me and she was like, you don't know how much you help me.
• 36:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I was reading some people, you have to just play it slow, just to see.
• 36:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I text back.
• 36:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, what I'm glad I can help.
• 36:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I said, if you don't mind, how did I help?
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: She said, your song, she said, I lost both of my boys at the same time.
• 36:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: They both drowned.
• 36:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: She said, I had to bury him.
• 36:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: She said, and on the day of the funeral, but everybody left my house.
• 36:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: I had my gun locked and loaded the kill myself.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: I couldn't live without my kids.
• 36:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: And you know, I broke down because I just, I hate, I can't picture myself.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know how God gave Jesus up.
• 36:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: and let him save the world, but I appreciate him for doing it.
• 37:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: But if it was Jamal, and he had to give up my kids, the world of being shampals.
• 37:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I can only imagine the pain she felt losing both of them at the same time.
• 37:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: And she just, she just wanted to end it all, man.
• 37:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: But they hear her say that my voice, the North and that's on my life.
• 37:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: just may have not do it.
• 37:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, that speaks volume.
• 37:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: That speaks for itself that it's God in me.
• 37:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's God.
• 37:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: God gave me this anointing.
• 37:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I not a use it.
• 37:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's just I not a use it.
• 37:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's going to destroy jokes.
• 37:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right in the enemy space.
• 37:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it is.
• 37:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's good.
• 37:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Family, I'm a land of playing, you know, you got an opportunity to really, really see a man who is living this thing out on a mainstream platform, you know, Jamal just before I go, I kind of feel like I got a shift back.
• 37:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is there anything that you will give to a spy or an artist, like artists who have tried that Sunday's best?
• 37:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: who don't try to put their stuff on the internet and it's just not working the way they want it to work.
• 38:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: He talk a little bit about time and then what that thing looks like in the power of consistency and just knowing that that's your gift and it's making her hopefully.
• 38:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 38:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's what my manager comes in.
• 38:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I used to, man, I used to be a, like, ready to do this, ready to do that.
• 38:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: When it's going to happen, when it's going to do this, why we can't do this, why we're going to do this, man, I had to learn to be patient.
• 38:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: I had none.
• 38:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: I had no patients at all.
• 38:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I know sometimes when you hear the word no, especially from people you look up to, like, just sun the best cast.
• 38:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, it told me no.
• 38:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I then let it break me, you know, I took that knowing I use it as fuel, but you gotta stay consistent and you gotta stay true to yourself.
• 38:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Nobody know your gear, like you know your gear.
• 38:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: Nobody know what you capable of, like you know.
• 38:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: So you gotta stay focused, you gotta stay motivated and keep, you gotta know, okay, get it?
• 38:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: Do it again.
• 38:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: Get it?
• 38:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: Do it again.
• 38:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's just a repeat game until you get to where you want to be.
• 38:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: You're not going to be satisfied until you get to where you want to be.
• 39:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: Is that what made you try again?
• 39:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's maybe better than my manager because I was done with TV.
• 39:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, no, absolutely not.
• 39:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: It was like, you don't understand.
• 39:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: It was like, you got it.
• 39:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: It was like, you need to do it.
• 39:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I gave it a try.
• 39:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: And after that, it just went straight up.
• 39:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't tell my strength straight up.
• 39:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, I would, we listen, I'm in the, I'm in the bed.
• 39:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: My purpose part on the show in this video.
• 39:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's like, I got to see if Jamal done won.
• 39:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Call the mama won a clock in the morning.
• 39:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Girl Jamal done won.
• 39:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I wish you could just see in this climate of the United States where we are, I don't think you would ever understand how much hope.
• 39:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then I only did you give to the America at large, but the hope that you gave to African-American people of all ages, because when it came to America's idol, God made it a black man.
• 39:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what he did.
• 39:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think you understand the magnitude that went, an America that does no longer represent all people.
• 40:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said, my American idol.
• 40:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: will be a black man.
• 40:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I only will be a black man.
• 40:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: He will be a man who's after God's own heart.
• 40:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, that took my heart, man, and just did something.
• 40:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's bigger than music when it comes to the mantle that's on your life.
• 40:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: God is going to let you see things because he can trust you.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: There have been a lot of people who had opportunities in squandery because the bright lights became so bright.
• 40:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: but you believe in the light of the world.
• 40:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And because of the bright light that the Lord has put into your life, it is up to us to support and show love and monitor and help.
• 40:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we pray for managers, ages, and everybody that gets attached to this beautiful light.
• 40:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because we need you, man, in this space to be exactly who God called you to be exactly the way He called you to do it.
• 40:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, listen, this amazing interview just got better because I am all my Patreon community right now and my sister from another Mr. Melissa Gordon out of Charleston, South Carolina.
• 41:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: She had a question exclusively for Jamal Roberts and if you are part of my Patreon community, you too can ask questions like this.
• 41:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: She said there's so much church hurt in this world and I have experienced church hurt.
• 41:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: How do you overcome eel wheel as it pertains to the church?
• 41:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Melissa, I really appreciate your comment.
• 41:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is what you all had to say.
• 41:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Check this out.
• 41:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: Man, I'm tasting about church people.
• 41:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a difference between church people and children of God.
• 41:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Definitely.
• 41:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Church people were hurt you.
• 41:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: church hurt is the worst hurt.
• 41:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: I put it like that.
• 41:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: I've experienced some church hurt, but it wasn't because of Sunday, but you know what I got tired of.
• 41:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: I got tired of him.
• 41:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'll Sunday, you know, I got tired of him.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: I've got tired of being labeled as Sunday.
• 42:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: I made it to the top three praise God.
• 42:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: How do you?
• 42:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
• 42:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's over.
• 42:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's the move on at this point.
• 42:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
• 42:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: But it was the
• 42:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: I felt like a failure.
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not going to lie.
• 42:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to keep it a book.
• 42:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was on Sunday best twice.
• 42:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was on the year before that.
• 42:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I got eliminated at the top twenty.
• 42:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then the great manager that I have got me back on that again.
• 42:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I made it to the top three during COVID.
• 42:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, I felt like a failure.
• 42:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: I felt like I led a lot of people down.
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: But my kids was watching the TV.
• 42:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, man, I just don't even, you know, I don't want to hear nothing about sending beds no more.
• 42:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't want to hear nothing that's about it.
• 42:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I didn't even really claim it.
• 42:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm all right.
• 42:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: Don't put it back on the flyers.
• 42:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't want to hear it.
• 42:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't want to see it.
• 42:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: It was a big disappointment.
• 42:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: I felt like I was cheated.
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: Me looking at both of the competition.
• 43:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, when you size up, you know, when you size up competition, you're like, I think I should have took that home, you know, but it was all the guys playing.
• 43:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: This stage wasn't big enough.
• 43:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: It wasn't drawing enough people.
• 43:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: He said I needed to be on the biggest stage.
• 43:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: I could have a bigger reach.
• 43:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I took the failure.
• 43:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I just bought it all up.
• 43:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I used it for as a little ammo.
• 43:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I took it on the American Island.
• 43:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just released it.
• 43:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 43:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Failure is not a person.
• 43:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's an incident.
• 43:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm glad that incident then make you think that that was your person.
• 43:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Indeed, now listen.
• 43:34
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• 43:38
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• 43:46
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• 43:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, this one is coming from Stephanie Clay.
• 43:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's out of St.
• 43:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Louis, Missouri.
• 43:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she says, Jamal, what is your support system look like now that you are the American?
• 44:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't.
• 44:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Steph, this is what your mom had to say.
• 44:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Check this out.
• 44:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Um, no matter if you tell you or not, we was introduced to each other.
• 44:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, when he found me, um, I didn't have like a circle.
• 44:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: I had to die.
• 44:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: Um, it wasn't many people I was connected to.
• 44:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 44:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and still to this day is not many people I'm connected to.
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: Um, I'm introverted.
• 44:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't let people in quickly.
• 44:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: Um, I got daughters.
• 44:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: I do not trust people at all.
• 44:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: Um, you just don't know who have your best interest in heart.
• 44:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm very guarded.
• 44:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Mm.
• 44:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: I smile at you.
• 44:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: I've been working on my teeth for years.
• 44:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to smile.
• 44:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: But before I land you in, no, I was going to take a little time.
• 44:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: I got to build a trust up.
• 44:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: I got to build that, but back then, my circle is small.
• 44:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right now, my circle is still small with the addition of two beautiful more daughters.
• 44:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's how it is.
• 44:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's I'm rocking and rolling with it.
• 44:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's it.
• 44:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, please keep it small.
• 44:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not just my list in Mississippi.
• 44:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know, um, real estate is is something that's really big for you.
• 45:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you have a heart for real estate or something you want to do a real estate?
• 45:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tell me a little bit about that.
• 45:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I love real estate, especially when I want it.
• 45:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: I've got some to lead to my kids.
• 45:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: I want all of it.
• 45:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: I want the houses.
• 45:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: I want the lakes and the puns.
• 45:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: I want books.
• 45:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: I want stuff to leave for my kids, but I want to have anything happening to me.
• 45:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: They won't have to worry about a thing.
• 45:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: Nothing.
• 45:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: They can't.
• 45:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: We only have to have a friend of them.
• 45:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 45:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: He made me and put me in the pun.
• 45:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: Put you in the pot.
• 45:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, put you in the pot.
• 45:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: But I want to have real estate.
• 45:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: I want to be something because this is like in my community.
• 45:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a lot of
• 45:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: How do I say this without then this somebody?
• 45:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Mr. CBS of, my reading is a retirement city.
• 45:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a lot of low income.
• 45:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: They're not paying you with nothing.
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: So it's a lot of people that can't afford to work and pay for theaters, babysitters.
• 46:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: They can work and take care of home, but if they got kids, it's hard for them to work.
• 46:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Take your home and take care of the kids with the minimum wage that's going on in the state.
• 46:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: I just want to be that light or that breeze to be or something, so unique, something that came to us.
• 46:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: something that nobody can take away from these people, something that they can lean on and raise their kids in the most, the most peace they ever had in a life without worrying about falling behind on this bill or falling behind on that.
• 46:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, be able to have that, that what I was raised up on that family, that that look man, that's nothing like family, you don't know how much your family means to you until you start losing them.
• 46:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: So, you know, I just want to create that opportunity where they can sit down together and help Sunday dinner.
• 46:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 46:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, some time go to, because I don't go no more.
• 46:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I got to get back to it.
• 46:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: I ain't been about studying the wild.
• 46:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: But go to Bob and study and vacation, Bob.
• 46:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, stuff like that, I just want to get some housing that we can pick these people in and they're not feeling ashamed about it.
• 47:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 47:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't want nothing back from it.
• 47:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 47:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: I just want to see the smiles.
• 47:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's your heart, man.
• 47:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I believe I believe you guys gonna do it for you, man.
• 47:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the ladies and gentlemen tomorrow, right?
• 47:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get it.
• 47:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's show some love.
• 47:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 47:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 47:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, so let me just land this plan.
• 47:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's the thing.
• 47:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, in the beginning of this conversation, I told you I wanted you to get an opportunity to meet a man whose gift has made room for him.
• 47:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I always like to make sure that you understand that your gift is making room for you.
• 47:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: The room that you landed in today is to love you more show and preferably you have the opportunity to be inspired.
• 47:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Doing the interview, I talked a little bit about the American Idol Opportunity and then later found out that he was number twenty three.
• 47:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: As we know, I'm a numerical guy to those of you who don't know if you listen to my radio show, you know, I'm always looking at those numbers and three plus two equals five and five is a number of grace.
• 47:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's an opportunity for expansion.
• 47:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so maybe if you are looking and you say, Willie Moore, Jr., I'm looking for expansion.
• 48:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, do me a favor.
• 48:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can you just put the five, just like this real quick?
• 48:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if you put that, that five coming right where you are unless you drive and put the number five right there, right?
• 48:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I want you to take that five and I want you to turn it into a fist.
• 48:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then I want you to declare this over your life, just say my dream.
• 48:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: will come to pass right you speak over this dream out of that five you grab it don't let go of your dream now here's the thing I want you to hold it in your hand just for a moment and it's something that I want you to discover that the creator has already given you and you may not have known you had it right now if you open up your hand now and you put that number five up and you and you hold it but if you open up your hand now and you look at the silhouette in your hand however is it you're going to see the letter in in your hand right
• 48:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: You see the letter M put it in the comments, put the letter M, M is in Mary M, M, right?
• 48:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I didn't put it there, God did, and that M and your hand stands for miracle.
• 48:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Got a miracle in your hands.
• 49:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I want to let you know that there will be circumstances, issues, problems, disappointment that make you feel like that the miracle leaves on the outside of you.
• 49:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: But God has already put the miracle in your hands, which means whatever you do towards it and you stay consistent with it.
• 49:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a miracle on the way because the miracle is not on the outside of the miracle.
• 49:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: is in you.
• 49:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And God gave you a clear indication that with your hands, you can be a greatness.
• 49:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: My question becomes, is are you going to squander a miracle that God has given you based upon your circumstances?
• 49:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or are you going to say, listen, no matter what I've been through, all things are working together for the good for those who love the Lord and are called according to His purpose.
• 49:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I believe that everything that happened to Jamal, everything that happened to me, everything that happened to you, is a beautiful combination for a beautiful picture to be painted for God's glory.
• 49:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: The question becomes, is do you believe it?
• 49:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you believe that there's something bigger on the other side of this?
• 49:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what your this is.
• 49:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just believe on the other side of disappointment.
• 50:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I believe on the other side of lack.
• 50:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I believe on the other side of the issues of life, that there's a platform, that that little miracle that you just discovered, desires to be in.
• 50:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And God wants to put you there.
• 50:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: You said, William, I'll join you.
• 50:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: What does it take?
• 50:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: It takes you to believe.
• 50:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And remember,
• 50:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: at the same guy who did it before.
• 50:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: The same guy who would do it again.