Latest / Brian Thomas / Tech Friday w/ Dave Hatter - Sponsored by Intrust IT - 3/13/2026
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Fifty five KRC the talk station.
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- 0:13Speaker 2: You want to get rely on interest I for all
- 0:15Speaker 2: your business computer needs, especially if your entire system gets
- 0:19Speaker 2: wiped out by a malware attack. Welcome back, Dave, had
- 0:21Speaker 2: it from interest I, T well. Thank you. Start by
- 0:24Speaker 2: appreciating your company interest I for sponsoring this segment, valuable
- 0:28Speaker 2: it is and scaring the living crap out of us regularly,
- 0:31Speaker 2: which is a good thing, most notably on the heels
- 0:34Speaker 2: of this Striker attack. What the heck, Dave, this.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Is so bad, Brian, as always, thanks for having me
- 0:41Speaker 1: on and the pleasure. I hate to always be the
- 0:43Speaker 1: guy with the bad news, but if you look at
- 0:45Speaker 1: what happened with Striker, and I'm a little surprised this
- 0:47Speaker 1: has not gotten more news coverage or or or because
- 0:53Speaker 1: of the connection to the action in Iran. So but
- 0:58Speaker 1: this is the kind of thing, Brian, you and I
- 0:59Speaker 1: have talked about for years. I've warned about it for years.
- 1:03Speaker 1: So Striker is a large company, apparently based on a
- 1:06Speaker 1: Michigan I really wasn't very familiar with them up to
- 1:09Speaker 1: this incident, although I'll tell you a connection I have
- 1:12Speaker 1: to it which is really interesting and even more concerning.
- 1:15Speaker 1: They make medical devices that are used in hospitals, doctors' offices, ambulances,
- 1:20Speaker 1: that sort of thing. So I'm just going to quote
- 1:22Speaker 1: from an article here Fortune five hundred company reported global
- 1:25Speaker 1: sales of twenty two point six billion and twenty twenty
- 1:28Speaker 1: four fifty three thousand employees. Yeah, so we're we're not
- 1:31Speaker 1: talking about some mom and pop shop that doesn't have money,
- 1:34Speaker 1: doesn't have resources, and frankly is a technology company. They're
- 1:39Speaker 1: making you know again quoting this article leading medical technology company.
- 1:43Speaker 1: So they were hit apparently as a result of the
- 1:47Speaker 1: hostilities in Iran. Now, can't say it wouldn't have happened anyway,
- 1:51Speaker 1: I know, but the organization that was behind this attack
- 1:55Speaker 1: claims to be affiliated with Iran. You can see what
- 1:58Speaker 1: they had to say in them. They put out, you know,
- 2:01Speaker 1: Zionist rooted Corporation Striker, one of the key arms of
- 2:04Speaker 1: the globalist Zionist lobby New Central Ring in the New
- 2:09Speaker 1: Epstein Chain. I'm reading to you from a statement from Hondala.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Is big Foot, are big Foot and Chupacabra mentioned in
- 2:17Speaker 2: there as well as the other conspiracy theories that they're fabricating.
- 2:21Speaker 1: They are not. They are just So here's what they say, Brian. Again,
- 2:26Speaker 1: the organization that claims to have done this, Striker's offices
- 2:30Speaker 1: in seventy nine countries have been forced to shut down.
- 2:32Speaker 1: All the acquired data is now in the hands of
- 2:33Speaker 1: the three people of the world, ready to be used
- 2:35Speaker 1: for the true lancement of humanity and the exposure of
- 2:37Speaker 1: injustice and corruption. They say. In this operation, over two
- 2:41Speaker 1: hundred thousand systems, servers, and mobile devices have been wiped
- 2:44Speaker 1: and fifty terabytes of critical data have been extracted. So again,
- 2:47Speaker 1: this is a company that makes medical equipment.
- 2:49Speaker 2: I was just trying to ask you, are the terrorist
- 2:51Speaker 2: hackers behind the Iranians? Are they going to start making
- 2:55Speaker 2: surgical and neurotechnology the equipment that the Striker can no
- 2:58Speaker 2: longer manufacture? Are they going to bring this harmony to
- 3:00Speaker 2: the globe and taking over the operation?
- 3:02Speaker 1: Dave Quest, Yes, I understand, I doubt it. But what
- 3:07Speaker 1: they could potentially do is start to then hack the
- 3:09Speaker 1: equipment with the information that they have. But here here's
- 3:12Speaker 1: my real concern about this, Brian. So a wiper attack
- 3:15Speaker 1: is essentially a type of malware similar to ransomware. The
- 3:18Speaker 1: difference is, you know, if I hit you with ransomware,
- 3:21Speaker 1: I want you to pay a ransom to decrypt your data. Right,
- 3:23Speaker 1: I encrypt your data, scrambles it up, renders the devices
- 3:27Speaker 1: where that data exists unusable, and you pay me a ransom.
- 3:31Speaker 1: I theoretically decrypt the data. Everything goes back to normal.
- 3:35Speaker 1: And then if I say, as the victim of it,
- 3:38Speaker 1: I said well, I'm not going to pay, then they say, well,
- 3:40Speaker 1: let's fine. Typically they have also exfiltrated stolen your data,
- 3:44Speaker 1: and you know they'll use that as leverage, say well,
- 3:47Speaker 1: we'll start to expose this so called fifty terabytes of
- 3:50Speaker 1: data they claim they've stolen to the world unless you
- 3:52Speaker 1: pay us. A wiper is different. Though a wiper is
- 3:55Speaker 1: not designed to get a ransom. A wiper is not
- 3:58Speaker 1: designed to be able to recover from its diffictly designed
- 4:00Speaker 1: to just destroy the data on whatever devices it hits,
- 4:04Speaker 1: so that they're down and you can't use them. This
- 4:06Speaker 1: has happened before, you may recall, I think it was
- 4:09Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. A Ukrainian company that made software was hit
- 4:14Speaker 1: with something like this, which then went out to their
- 4:16Speaker 1: customers and knocked hundreds of thousands of devices from huge
- 4:19Speaker 1: companies like MAYERSK offline. So this isn't the first time
- 4:22Speaker 1: something like this has happened, but it's the first time
- 4:26Speaker 1: I can tell you I'm aware of anything of this
- 4:28Speaker 1: significance in the US, not only because now think about this, Brian,
- 4:32Speaker 1: think about this, if they really knocked out two hundred
- 4:35Speaker 1: thousand devices. And Striker has commented on this, but it's
- 4:38Speaker 1: been kind of vague. Even if I had systems in place,
- 4:42Speaker 1: so I had resiliency and business continuity and could recover
- 4:45Speaker 1: these two hundred thousand devices quickly, even if it took
- 4:49Speaker 1: ten minutes per device. What's ten minutes times two hundred
- 4:52Speaker 1: thousand Think at the downtime.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Here, Holy cow when you put it in them in terms.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Yes, well, this is the thing that people are often
- 5:00Speaker 1: not thinking about. So you know, part of cybersecurity is
- 5:04Speaker 1: how do I harden my systems and reduce the likelihood
- 5:06Speaker 1: that something like this will happen? Right? And then secondarily,
- 5:10Speaker 1: if something happens, doesn't have to be a cyber attack,
- 5:12Speaker 1: could be natural disaster, could be equipment failure. How do
- 5:15Speaker 1: I have an environment and systems in it that are
- 5:19Speaker 1: resilient and can recover quickly with minimal downtime. You know, again,
- 5:23Speaker 1: I only know what I've read about this, Brian. But
- 5:25Speaker 1: think about this again. Ten minutes at two hundred thousand,
- 5:28Speaker 1: and I can tell you it. We'll take more than
- 5:30Speaker 1: ten minutes. I'm just speculating here. I don't know if
- 5:32Speaker 1: this company can survive. I know, you know there and
- 5:36Speaker 1: that fifty three thousand jobs, twenty two billion dollar company.
- 5:39Speaker 1: But here's the really scary part. That's all terrible, absolutely terrible.
- 5:44Speaker 1: But these medical devices are everywhere. I can tell you
- 5:48Speaker 1: when I put my mayor's hat on, we have a
- 5:50Speaker 1: bunch of their equipment in our fire department and our ambulances.
- 5:52Speaker 2: My wife works one of the largest hospital systems in
- 5:55Speaker 2: the country, and she knew about this right away, and
- 5:57Speaker 2: she even mentioned it to me the other day that
- 5:59Speaker 2: this had happened. Then it impacted. I mean, they have
- 6:01Speaker 2: relationships established with all these hospital systems, and so there
- 6:04Speaker 2: may be a ripple effect there.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, okay, if they don't survive when those
- 6:10Speaker 1: devices start to go bad, what happens? Could the devices
- 6:13Speaker 1: could summer All of the devices they make that are
- 6:15Speaker 1: Internet connected be hacked as a result of this information
- 6:19Speaker 1: they now have who knows. I mean, this is where
- 6:22Speaker 1: people do not think about the downstream consequences of not
- 6:25Speaker 1: having the right security in place, and frankly of equal
- 6:29Speaker 1: maybe more importance when you see these kind of things
- 6:32Speaker 1: with having systems in place for resiliency and a quick recovery.
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- 6:50Speaker 2: Thomas with Interest i T dot COM's Dave had Or
- 6:54Speaker 2: business curer says interest I T is the best in
- 6:56Speaker 2: the business when it comes to things like we were talking
- 6:58Speaker 2: about the last hour. Try to avoid your you avoid
- 7:00Speaker 2: the risk of being hacked. Dave pivoting over local person.
- 7:04Speaker 2: Talk about imposter scams. You got one every week? What
- 7:07Speaker 2: happened here?
- 7:09Speaker 1: Yeah, these scams are super prevalent, Brian. I know people
- 7:13Speaker 1: that have been victims of them personally, and as you
- 7:17Speaker 1: and I have discussed so many times, and I think
- 7:19Speaker 1: you might have mentioned this yesterday you had another breach
- 7:22Speaker 1: of a billion records. Your data is everywhere now, everywhere, everywhere,
- 7:27Speaker 1: And I would bet you there's not a single person
- 7:31Speaker 1: listening to us ever that hasn't gotten at least one
- 7:33Speaker 1: notice of some sort of data breach.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Even if they're a loud ate. That's because public information,
- 7:39Speaker 2: like auditor records, public information. It's out there for all
- 7:42Speaker 2: to see. So even if you're hiding in a closet,
- 7:44Speaker 2: you're still going to have your information hacked. You have
- 7:47Speaker 2: an address, yes.
- 7:47Speaker 1: I mean, you're exactly right, Brian. I mean, the more
- 7:50Speaker 1: apps you use, the more Internet of Things devices you have,
- 7:53Speaker 1: the more your data is going to be out there.
- 7:54Speaker 1: But even if you don't do any of that stuff,
- 7:56Speaker 1: I mean you're using credit cards, people are buying and
- 7:59Speaker 1: selling your data. And the reason why that's important is
- 8:02Speaker 1: all of that data gets in the hands of bad guys.
- 8:04Speaker 1: They buy it off the dark web and such. Again,
- 8:07Speaker 1: we see stories regularly about oh, here's someone found a
- 8:10Speaker 1: database with a being and social security numbers or whatever.
- 8:14Speaker 1: All that data in the hands of these bad guys
- 8:16Speaker 1: helps them refine their scams, It helps them target you,
- 8:20Speaker 1: It helps them figure out what to say to you
- 8:22Speaker 1: if and when they talk to you. On the phone.
- 8:24Speaker 1: It helps them guide those conversations so they seem like
- 8:27Speaker 1: the legitimate agency that claims you have some kind of problem, right,
- 8:31Speaker 1: So they'll fish you via text, via email, sometimes they'll
- 8:35Speaker 1: call you, sometimes a combination of all these things. They're
- 8:38Speaker 1: using this information to create messages that are much more
- 8:41Speaker 1: realistic than the standard. Hey, I'm in Nigerian Prince. I
- 8:44Speaker 1: want to transfer eight million dollars to your bank account.
- 8:47Speaker 1: And that's what you see here in this story price
- 8:50Speaker 1: woman rather loses five thousand dollars in bank imposter scam.
- 8:54Speaker 1: And I think it's I have so much respect for
- 8:57Speaker 1: people who come forward and tell these stories. Yes, because
- 9:00Speaker 1: I know it's embarrassing. I know it's hurtful to them.
- 9:04Speaker 1: You know, who has a spare five grand they want
- 9:05Speaker 1: to lose. But rather than listen to someone like me
- 9:08Speaker 1: speculate on this, orn't about this, when these real people
- 9:12Speaker 1: come forward and tell these stories, at least I believe
- 9:15Speaker 1: it puts a fine point on it. This stuff is real.
- 9:17Speaker 1: It's not just even they've had her making stuff up.
- 9:19Speaker 1: This is happening every day.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Well, and even more so, she works in banking and
- 9:23Speaker 2: she knows how financial systems work. That's what the reporting shows.
- 9:26Speaker 2: So this isn't some novice out there. This is someone
- 9:29Speaker 2: who has at least some understanding of the banking system.
- 9:33Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. And so she lost five thousand dollars.
- 9:36Speaker 1: She claims that, you know, she got a call. They
- 9:40Speaker 1: said there was some kind of fraud on her account.
- 9:42Speaker 1: The number appeared to come from her bank, and they said.
- 9:48Speaker 1: There's one part again, I only know what the reporting says.
- 9:51Speaker 1: One part that says that the callers, the hackers, the
- 9:54Speaker 1: bad actors, were prepared. They knew her recent transactions. They
- 9:57Speaker 1: knew she had just ordered a new debit card. They
- 9:59Speaker 1: had a deep tell personal account information that made them
- 10:02Speaker 1: sound completely legitimate.
- 10:03Speaker 2: That's scary.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Exactly exactly how they would know her recent transactions, that
- 10:07Speaker 1: she just ordered a debit card, I don't know. But
- 10:09Speaker 1: the detailed personal account information, again, that stuff is everywhere
- 10:13Speaker 1: out there now. So just because you get a call,
- 10:16Speaker 1: it's easy to spoof a phone number. Anyone right now
- 10:19Speaker 1: can go do a search and find a website that
- 10:21Speaker 1: will let them send a text or make a phone
- 10:23Speaker 1: call from any number they want. It is trivially easy.
- 10:26Speaker 1: You cannot look at a phone number on your phone
- 10:29Speaker 1: and know whether it's a legitimate number again, be a
- 10:31Speaker 1: text or phone. So you know, they call her, so
- 10:35Speaker 1: they got guts, they call her. They're con artists. They're
- 10:37Speaker 1: going to talk to her on the phone. They have
- 10:40Speaker 1: this information that makes them seem legitimate. Then they claim
- 10:43Speaker 1: frauds and activity in Dallas. She needs to open up
- 10:46Speaker 1: a new account and transfer her money over now again, Brian,
- 10:50Speaker 1: the bank can just turn your account right, No? Right?
- 10:53Speaker 1: I mean you should not transfer your money should You
- 10:57Speaker 1: should not go buy Venmo or put it in ven
- 11:00Speaker 1: By gift cards, put it in an ATM and another bank.
- 11:03Speaker 1: I know someone that had something similar to this happened.
- 11:08Speaker 1: But unfortunately she did it, and you know, this article says, okay,
- 11:14Speaker 1: didn't even know what happens. She took every you know,
- 11:15Speaker 1: call their real customer service line, by a police repport,
- 11:19Speaker 1: contact a better business view, freeze your credit, you know,
- 11:23Speaker 1: escalate with the bank, contact the FBI. Now, let's be real,
- 11:26Speaker 1: the FBI is not going to have the resources to
- 11:28Speaker 1: get engaged with a five thousand dollars individual theft. But
- 11:32Speaker 1: it's not a bad idea to report that, at least
- 11:34Speaker 1: to the Internet Crime Complaints Center IC three dot gov.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Which the the FBI runs. But I mean, here's the
- 11:40Speaker 1: here's the bottom line, and they say it in the article.
- 11:42Speaker 1: If you get something like this, hang up immediately. Do
- 11:45Speaker 1: not talk to these people. They're con artists. They'll tell
- 11:48Speaker 1: you whatever lies they need to hang up. Get out
- 11:51Speaker 1: your debit card or credit card, call that number, use
- 11:54Speaker 1: the app you normally use. You know, you need to
- 11:56Speaker 1: verify this. Go to a local bank branch if there is.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Don't click the links, don't don't use any of the
- 12:02Speaker 1: information they gave you. Hang up and use information that
- 12:05Speaker 1: you already have, and you know, reach out to your
- 12:08Speaker 1: bank and say, hey, I got this call.
- 12:10Speaker 2: Yeah, don't engage in a knee jerk reaction. Stop hanging up,
- 12:14Speaker 2: give it some thought, thinking maybe this is a scam.
- 12:17Speaker 2: It's not going to unring the bell of whatever they
- 12:20Speaker 2: claim to be warning you about. So you do have
- 12:22Speaker 2: some time. The damage has already been done, according to them,
- 12:24Speaker 2: so go to the bank and find out for sure.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Dave yes at a time. In the segment, let's bring
- 12:28Speaker 2: you back and we'll talk about Meta getting sued over
- 12:30Speaker 2: the wonderfully gorgeous looking privacy. Intrust dot Com sponsors the
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- 12:43Speaker 2: And then we pivot over Dave Hatter. Metas getting sued
- 12:45Speaker 2: over the new AI smart glasses and I'm looking at
- 12:48Speaker 2: a photograph of them, and honestly, you can tell when
- 12:51Speaker 2: someone has them on based upon the awesome fashion statement
- 12:54Speaker 2: they present. But I would not feel comfortable talking with
- 12:58Speaker 2: anyone with these things on.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure it doesn't come as a shock to you.
- 13:03Speaker 1: I'm in the same boat as you. You know, I'm
- 13:05Speaker 1: not a big fan of the Internet of Things aka
- 13:09Speaker 1: smart devices, and as we see miniaturization of this technology
- 13:15Speaker 1: and the ability to add cameras and microphones to everything,
- 13:18Speaker 1: you know, you see things like the Meta smart classes here. Now,
- 13:21Speaker 1: as a reminder, this is not new. A few years ago,
- 13:24Speaker 1: Google tried this. They had something called Google Glass, which
- 13:28Speaker 1: coined the awesome term for people wearing these things glassholes
- 13:32Speaker 1: quote unquote. They didn't really catch on. Yeah, they didn't
- 13:37Speaker 1: really catch on. So now Meta's back. They're apparently in
- 13:41Speaker 1: partnership with Luxotica for their ray band brand, and yeah,
- 13:46Speaker 1: there's plenty of pictures out there of Mark Zuckerberg wearing
- 13:49Speaker 1: these things. You can see there's a little light on
- 13:51Speaker 1: that shows you what it's active in recording. But from
- 13:54Speaker 1: what I have read.
- 13:55Speaker 2: You can disable the light go on there and.
- 13:59Speaker 1: You know so. Here's an article from tech Crunch metasuit
- 14:01Speaker 1: over AI smart classes privacy concerns after workers reviewed nudity,
- 14:05Speaker 1: sex and other footage now again allegedly in this lawsuit.
- 14:09Speaker 1: This is what this article says. You know. It goes
- 14:13Speaker 1: on to say in the article Meta is facing a
- 14:16Speaker 1: new class action lawsuit or it's our smart classes and
- 14:18Speaker 1: their lack of privacy after an investigation by Swedish newspapers
- 14:22Speaker 1: find them that workers at a Kenya based subcontractor are
- 14:24Speaker 1: reviewing footage from customers classes which included sensitive content like nudity,
- 14:29Speaker 1: people having sex and using the toilet.
- 14:32Speaker 2: Medically don't have with someone wearing smart classes.
- 14:35Speaker 1: Yes, Or don't go to the toilet while your smart
- 14:37Speaker 1: classes are on, or maybe perhaps just don't have smart
- 14:40Speaker 1: classes or be around people with smart classes, and then
- 14:43Speaker 1: at least you will have one less orwelly and spy
- 14:45Speaker 1: mechanism tracking your every move, listening to your conversations, et cetera.
- 14:50Speaker 1: Now it goes on to say in here, the complaint
- 14:52Speaker 1: alleges that meta AI smart classes are advertising using promises
- 14:56Speaker 1: like quote designed for privacy, controlled by you unquote and
- 15:00Speaker 1: quote built for your privacy unquote, which might not lead
- 15:03Speaker 1: the might not lead customers to assume their glasses footage,
- 15:06Speaker 1: including innimate moments, was being watched by workers overseas. You know,
- 15:10Speaker 1: they claim that this is being done for quality purposes.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Same thing all these companies say about the data that
- 15:15Speaker 1: they collect and upload, and you know, again, in many cases,
- 15:20Speaker 1: I'm assuming some of this more sensitive footage isn't because
- 15:23Speaker 1: someone is purposely violating someone else's privacy. It's because they
- 15:27Speaker 1: don't really understand how these things work. They don't understand
- 15:30Speaker 1: when they're on, they forget that they're on, they set
- 15:32Speaker 1: them down in an inconvenient spot. But ultimately that data
- 15:36Speaker 1: gets uploaded to servers where someone you know is theoretically
- 15:39Speaker 1: reviewing this for quality purposes.
- 15:41Speaker 2: It's like it's like the room go back with the
- 15:43Speaker 2: camera in it. This is the same thing, except Lord Almighty,
- 15:47Speaker 2: the implications are far broader. With the glasses, they go
- 15:50Speaker 2: with the ever wherever you have them on, unlike a room,
- 15:52Speaker 2: but which is at least going to be you know,
- 15:54Speaker 2: stuck in your living room or.
- 15:55Speaker 1: Your house exactly. And so also reading from the article here,
- 16:00Speaker 1: and twenty twenty five seven million people bought Meta smart glasses.
- 16:03Speaker 1: The footage from those glasses is fed into a data
- 16:05Speaker 1: pipeline for a review, and users can't opt out. So
- 16:09Speaker 1: and I know we'll we're out of time, but yeah,
- 16:11Speaker 1: the room at least is confined to your house. You
- 16:14Speaker 1: could be sitting in a restaurant next to someone that's
- 16:16Speaker 1: essentially recording your conversation without your knowledge. And I just
- 16:20Speaker 1: want to point out, let's go back to the nest
- 16:22Speaker 1: thing in the Guthrie situation. She didn't have a subscription,
- 16:25Speaker 1: They said we can't retrieve this data, and then magically,
- 16:28Speaker 1: ten days later the data shows up. So if you
- 16:31Speaker 1: think this stuff is going into their servers and is
- 16:34Speaker 1: somehow eventually being deleted, or isn't potentially being sold to
- 16:38Speaker 1: someone else who knows, So, yeah, there is literally no
- 16:42Speaker 1: chance I would use these things. There is no chance
- 16:45Speaker 1: I would be around someone that has these on. This
- 16:48Speaker 1: is just more of it, just illustrates once again how
- 16:53Speaker 1: as we make everything smart. Quote unquote put software in everything.
- 16:57Speaker 1: There are all these unintended consequences to everyday people that
- 17:01Speaker 1: they typically don't understand. So again, all of this is alleged.
- 17:05Speaker 1: That's in a lawsuit. Go out, read these articles, see
- 17:08Speaker 1: the pictures. But yeah, I'm not a fan, and I
- 17:10Speaker 1: would encourage people not to buy this stuff and to
- 17:14Speaker 1: try to avoid being around it as much as possible. Yeah,
- 17:19Speaker 1: the Internet of Things. Not a fan. Yes, that's a
- 17:22Speaker 1: good stopping point.
- 17:23Speaker 2: Take a pass on Internet of Things devices,