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Episode 39- Finding Your People: Imposter Syndrome, Trusting Your Gut, and the Community That Makes You Whole · The Play Therapy Circle

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Hi and welcome to an episode of The Play Therapy Circle.
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I'm Kylie Ellison, a therapist, clinical supervisor and play
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therapy trainer and I'm so grateful you're here.
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This podcast is a space for thoughtful, soulful
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conversations about child centred therapy, play based work
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and what it means to show up with presence and compassion
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both for our clients and for ourselves.
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Whether you're a seasoned play therapist, a student just
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starting out, or someone deeply passionate about working with
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children, you belong here. Hey everyone, and welcome back
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to the Play Therapy Circle podcast.
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I'm your host, Kylie Ellison, and I am so glad you are here.
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Happy Wednesday, you guys. I am literally recording this on
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a Wednesday. If anyone follows the blog that
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I post on our therapy page, it's not podcast page, but another
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page. I had a very intention of doing
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this yesterday. Did not happen, but this is
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growth, you guys. It's like 3:30 in the afternoon.
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I'm recording it on a Wednesday. Like we're getting better
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slowly. I have, I think I've mentioned
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this before when I have like a crazy May, like crazy travelling
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May. So you guys are going to come on
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location with me. I'm not even joking.
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Each week I'm somewhere different for four weeks.
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So that's going to be interesting.
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I'm very excited because it's going to be connecting with so
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many people in the space of learning about play therapy.
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So I'm, I'm so excited about that, but I am not the best
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traveller. So like I was talking to a few
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supervisees this morning because I have never been to this part
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of Australia before. So I am like, Oh my gosh, what
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do I wear and what do I pack? Because if anyone knows Brisbane
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and Queensland, you would know it's hot and sunny all the time,
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all the time. So we get like a week of winter
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and that's it. So there we are.
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I am going to be starting to get ready for that in the next
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little while and I am celebrating my birthday on
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Friday so I'm having a day off. So that's very exciting doing
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all the things we're going to. My family is taking me to the
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football. So anyone listening
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internationally, you may not know what rugby league is, but I
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am a huge Broncos fan. So I'm very excited to get to go
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to the football on Friday night. And so in true style, because I
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don't think anyone that's been listening to me for a while
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knows that I am not good at keeping to my agenda of what I'm
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going to do for the podcast episode.
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So I literally just changed it this afternoon.
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Love that. So I did have a plan to talk
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about kids when they present in the playroom as is essentially
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dissociative and what that means in terms of the work that we do.
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And so I have that ready to go. That is definitely an important
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episode, but something a little bit more important kind of came
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up today. So a little bit more of a
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reflective episode for you all and also an empowerment and a
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hope episode for you all as well.
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So I'm gonna take you on a slightly different subject today
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before I go any further. I want to again acknowledge our
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incredible international listeners that we have in our
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Play Therapy Circle community. We are still in, I don't know if
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it was the same last week, but we're still steady at 67
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countries of listeners across the globe who TuneIn each week
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to our Play Therapy Circle podcast.
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So if you are coming from anywhere other than Australia, I
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am so, so grateful that you are listening, but also all of our
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incredible Australian listeners who are supporting our podcast
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as well. I hope that you are finding it
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helpful and useful. That is always my intention.
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But today is going on a bit of a different flavour, which you
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know, that's how things go with this stuff, right?
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Tackling all aspects of child centred play therapy.
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So I don't think that I would be doing it any justice if we
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didn't to talk about and reflect about this particular topic
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today. And I did actually do a previous
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episode on similar content, which I don't normally double up
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in terms of content when I was overseas the end of last year,
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episode 20. So feel free to go back and
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listen to that one. But this episode and I always
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find usually with my topics each week, it's something related to
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my real time practise experience.
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And I think that that's really important.
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If you've got and you're listening to a podcast about a
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topic, you want to know that the person who is talking has has
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some knowledge and, and understanding of what they're
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discussing. So I definitely I can talk to
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first hand experience in this space and I think it's an
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important topic for anyone really beginning in the field or
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potentially currently in the field and navigating this as
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well. So I don't know if this is going
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to resonate. I have a feeling it will.
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I don't know if this is going to resonate with anyone, but if
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anyone in the helping profession has ever had those moments of
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feeling like you're not quite good enough.
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And this is an important topic because especially when it comes
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to working and supporting children and families, us as
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professionals can often feel that sense of needing to feel
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credentialed, feel like we are qualified, that we are trained,
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that we have an understanding, that we have a duty of care and
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ethical codes of conduct to be able to practise in a safe and
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appropriate manner. So I think that, you know, we
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will have those experiences and this is very top of mind for me
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where you will feel like you're just not quite the right kind or
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you're just not good enough is essentially what can happen in
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this space. And I want to talk to that today
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because I think that that is an experience where you doubt
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yourself, where you doubt, am I going to be able to enter into
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this space and do this work regardless of kind of the
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profession and the helping field as a whole.
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It really can be something that can impact you significantly.
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And it's important that we talk about it.
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I think it's something when we talk about imposter syndrome
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that people feel it, but they don't necessarily want to say it
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because again, it's the whole idea of imposter syndrome,
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right? That we don't want other people
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to know that we feel like we're not good enough as well.
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And we can certainly see that in more of an outward space if we
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are, you know, trying to prove our worth or, you know, trying
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to promote ourselves as a way of essentially trying to, yeah,
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help to support our position that we feel like we should be
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in this space. So I want to talk a little bit
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about that today. I think it's a big topic and I
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have a lot I guess I want to unpack here.
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So we'll see how we go and what journey and direction heads in,
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right? Because this is always about our
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humanistic approach to therapy is also relevant in the podcast
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space. So I think it's important for us
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to define imposter syndrome because that's where we're
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starting this conversation, right?
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And I, regardless of whether you are locally or abroad, I know
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that that universal experience of feeling like you're not good
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enough, that persistent feeling that you might not necessarily
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be enough, even though you can demonstrate your confidence.
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It's, it's an interesting term because it, we know historically
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it came out in kind of the 1970s and was particularly in high
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achieving women that this concept first emerged, right.
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And that core experience really of attributing your success to
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luck or to timing rather than your own capabilities and
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fearing that one day someone might find out that you're not
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good enough. And I feel like that is a
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universal experience regardless of your profession.
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So why though is the helping profession somewhere where this
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certainly can live and breed in terms of imposter syndrome?
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Our work is in the playroom. Our work is in the therapy space
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with clients. It's not something that we can
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necessarily, you know, say externally if we're kind of
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moving into a different space, like a builder who can prove
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that they built a build a house. You know, we can't give that
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evidence in a visual sense, in a real sense, because we're
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working in a space where we're helping others.
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So we are our own instruments when it comes to our
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professional interventions and services that we offer.
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And so when the work is hard, it can feel personal in a way if as
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it wouldn't in necessarily other fields.
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So many of us also carry with us our own experiences.
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And that's why, you know, in this space.
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And we often talk about personal therapy and your own kind of
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work in this space because it's very important that we're taking
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care of us when we're holding big stories for children in the
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playroom as well. And I think that very often
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those that move into the helping profession as adults, we're very
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caring, very sensitive kids when they were younger.
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And so obviously it's great traits for us when we have that
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connection and able to, you know, notice that sense from our
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own empathy skills and, and values and traits that, that we
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can then connect with others in a way that is incredibly
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important for the work that we do, but something that's very
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difficult to show tangibly. So imposter syndrome, I want to
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kind of give that distinction of feeling like I'm, I'm not good
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enough, I don't deserve this. There's that element of it
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versus more of, say, a growth edge where we're saying, I'm
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learning. These are things I don't know
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yet. I can keep developing.
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So the idea is, I guess, to examine what is this really
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about? When we are feeling that sense
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of imposter syndrome, is it an area for growth or is it
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actually something we're feeling within ourselves?
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So the feeling is common and it's universal and it's a human
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experience. And the problem is when we let
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that feeling become the authority on our worth, when we
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let it kind of take over. And I'm holding in mind so many
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stories of people I've connected with over the years, both in our
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community and abroad. We are when we down ourselves
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and when we allow that feeling of that imposter syndrome to
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really be the authority and define our worth that we then
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step into spaces or make decisions that don't necessarily
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align with our values, but I kind of dictated by that feel.
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So it's so important that we're noticing this imposter syndrome
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when it comes up and really, I guess, identifying those ways
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that we can address it and support ourselves.
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And so much of that when we really think about it is about
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giving ourselves compassion because we're really being hard
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on ourselves, right? When we feel that sense of
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imposter syndrome, we're feeling like we're not good enough.
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What would we do with children in the playroom?
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We're obviously not going to fix it.
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We're not going to give them a solution.
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We just really those children in the playroom, sorry.
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When we're working with them, we're seeking that support, that
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validation, that healing space for them to be able to work
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through the challenges that they're they're experiencing in
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real time and and to be seen and heard.
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It's the same, I believe, because I always say I work with
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children of all ages. I think for us as adults as
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well, it certainly is that space where we're looking for.
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And I think one of the key mitigators or ways or anecdotes,
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anecdotes, Oh my God, I'm saying the wrong thing.
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Anecdotes to that is connection and is community.
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And that was certainly part of my process today where I really
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sort value in those that I hold so highly to feel seen and
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heard. And it really is that anecdote
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that I was looking for. So I want to talk a little bit
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about what we're mentioning here in terms of that imposter
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syndrome. Let's break it down a little bit
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more because sometimes we can think about it as like the inner
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critic and the outer chorus. So let's talk about the inner
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critic a little bit. So it's a very familiar voice
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for us, especially for us perfectionists over here.
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Anyone who's a perfectionist, Hello.
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It definitely can be that, that's for sure.
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Where we have had this trait or inner voice long before we went
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to uni and did our degrees and did our training and then you
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know, got out into the field and started practising.
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It can definitely feel like that voice is saying you shouldn't be
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here, you're not good enough. You know, someone's going to
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find out that you're not good enough.
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And it can be something that can can really impact you when you
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are listening to that inner critics.
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So it's definitely traceable. You can usually connect it to
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certainly earlier in life experiences.
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And like I said, I work with children of all ages.
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So I feel like every adult that I connect with you almost, and I
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think this is how play therapy infiltrates parts of my life.
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I feel like when you meet adults, you often meet the inner
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child as well. So you can almost through sort
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of talking to them and connecting with them, have an
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understanding of potentially, not always, but potentially
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start to build an understanding of what their formative years
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experiences might have been. And so that makes it deeply
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personal when it comes to each individual therapist doing their
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own work, doing their own internal work, through
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reflection, through supervision, through, yeah, group
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connections, and through your own personal therapy.
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That helps you to kind of better understand and help really work
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through that because that's so important, the difference.
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And I'm giving that kind of segue then to talk about, you
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know, the inner critic versus the outer chorus.
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So this can feel a little bit like the voice of kind of
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external messages, external expectations, external standards
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or comparisons. So it's not one specific source.
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It just kind of feels like a general kind of harm, like a
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general kind of sense in a particular community.
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So sometimes it's, it's kind of a voice.
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Sometimes it's, you know, patterns across years of
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experiences that you might encounter that give you that
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message. And it's across all professions.
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It's, it's not just in one sector.
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We experience this everywhere. So it's absolutely real.
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It's not imagined. And those external voices often
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are part of that experience in our professional life of that
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feeling of not being good enough.
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So I think the inner critic, you know, how do we start to begin
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to address this? This is what I kind of wanted to
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talk about today. The inner critic needs that
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compassion, self compassion and empathy needs that compassion,
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empathy, reflective practise, connecting with self.
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That's so important. The outer course I guess is
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slightly different because when we talk about, and we talk about
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this a lot in child centre play therapy around the internal
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versus external locus of control.
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So what's been in our circle of influence, That's our inner
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critic, right? Because that's our feelings, our
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thoughts, our emotions and how we can best support ourselves,
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give ourselves that compassion external to us is somewhat
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outside of our control. What other people think and
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other people do and say, we say that to clients all the time.
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That's a very common theory in our area of work.
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So when we're talking about imposter syndrome, it's it's
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definitely similar. So I think there is an
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opportunity for us when we do experience this to really get
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clear about what we believe in as individuals and what is our
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our personal values and what do we want to, I guess connect with
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because that's so important to decide what is it that you want
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to lead with? I guess to help you to mitigate
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that sometimes outer chorus that we experience.
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So when you're not feeling good enough, I invite you guys to
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pause and ask which voice is this?
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Is it, you know, that familiar inner critic, or is it maybe
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that outer chorus? Because once we name it, then we
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can kind of work from there, right?
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And here's the freeing part about all of this.
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Neither of those voices get to be the final word on who you
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are. Let me say that again because I
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need to hear this today too. The freeing part is that neither
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of those voices, either the inner critic or the outer
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chorus, get to be the final word on who you are.
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Let's talk about it a bit more. Let's unpack it.
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So when we're talking about the inner critic and the outer voice
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that can dominate, there's a third voice and the one that
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finally gets to speak, and that's your own values.
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So the most important question to ask as a practitioner is what
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do I value? And that really can help you
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lead from there. And it certainly has been part
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of my experience as well. But it's deciding what do you
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value in this space? So is it not that I want or not?
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What do I want people to approve of me?
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Because that's the out, of course, right?
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The out of critic. What do I genuinely believe
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about how children heal? So what am I truly aligned with?
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And I often say that with my introductory workshop that I do
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in CCPT and the training programme as well, that it's not
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by chance that we have connected as a cohort of students and
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trainer. That there is moments that are
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unique to each individual that have brought them to that point
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of connecting with me in that training because.
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Those values around hearing children's stories, valuing
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their natural mode of communication, being play, all
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of those things bring us to that point where we say, I'm looking
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for something different other than just say talk based
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therapies. So that's so important to
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recognise and really, you know, establish within yourself is
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what do I genuinely believe about how children heal, how
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therapists should be trained. That's a that's a great question
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to ask and how our profession should treat each other.
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And I think that that's something that is deeply
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personal and certainly goes to your own experiences.
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And so I can only talk to mine. And I think the biggest thing
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for me that I value is absolutely a supportive,
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inclusive community. I think that that is absolutely
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essential when we are working in these spaces.
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And I'm literally coming from our play, my playroom, and today
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our clinic, but my playroom where I get the privilege every
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day to connect and hear children's stories and do this
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incredible work. And it's heavy and it's hard.
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And sometimes it's really tough and sometimes it's really
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rewarding. But we can't do this work alone.
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That really is such an important element of our profession is
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making sure that we can connect with like minded professionals,
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that we can connect with those that we can certainly help
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support each other and lift each other up because that's what
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it's all about. Because this is empowering work.
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This is such sacred work and it's just so important that we
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feel that support ourselves while we're serving kids in our
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playrooms every day. So I think it's really important
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to kind of acknowledge, I guess that certainly and I for those
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of you kind of listening internationally, I think more
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broadly, my emphasis to everyone listening is, you know, do your
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research, kind of look around, find what works for you.
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Look at all of the options to becoming a play therapist in
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Australia because there are so many options out there.
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And it is so important that you find the one that aligns for
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you. And I think that everyone goes
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on a journey to find that and that's so important.
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So I want to offer, I guess these reflections when we're
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talking about finding your people and finding your
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community. I want to offer these
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reflections to you. And this first one is really
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important for me. I've been doing child centre
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play therapy now for 11 years. So I definitely say when I am
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running training that I'm absolutely still in my early
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stages of my career. I have a long way to go, but I
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want to emphasise this question around asking each of you
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listening. When I imagine myself at the end
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of my career, what do I want to be known for?
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What a powerful question to kind of put to each individual
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practitioner around what do I want to be known for and what
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makes me feel most alive when I'm doing this therapeutic work?
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What do I love the most about what I'm doing?
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What have I seen in our profession or what has been my
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experience? It just doesn't sit right.
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It just doesn't necessarily align for me.
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And if I was seeking that kind of approval, what would that
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would that still work for me if it didn't align for me?
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And what do my clients and the children and families I work
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with need from someone like me? What are they truly looking for
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when we are connecting and serving in our communities each
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and every day? These questions are really
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important to kind of begin to understand, I guess, where we
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want to go in terms of our individual careers.
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When you are clear about what you value, that approval, I
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guess that external kind of out of chorus becomes nice to have
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rather than need to have because we get really kind of clear
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about what is it that's important to us.
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What gives us the passion and drive each day to come to work
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and, you know, connect with kids in the playroom and do what we
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love the most. That out of chorus then tends to
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quieten down because it's, it's no longer that voice that
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matters to us. And I think that that's really
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important. I think that everyone goes on a
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journey to find their place in the world.
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I think we go through so many learning experiences along the
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way. And I think it's really
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important to constantly have reflective practise.
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And that's, I've certainly had experiences over the years where
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I've reflected and going, Yep, that doesn't align with me
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anymore. I want to connect with what
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values are true to me and lead with that.
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And I feel like in this week of me turning 43 now, like that has
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definitely been something that in my 40s has been a big deal, a
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really big deal of who do I want to be and what kind of
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practitioner do I want to be, What kind of practise do I want
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to have and where do I want to end up?
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And that's really important, I think, because that then helps
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guide you in terms of where you go and who you connect with and
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who you don't necessarily align with.
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And that can be in any space. And that's about being true to
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yourself. It's getting really clear about
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who you are, what matters to you and what's important to you, and
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then kind of taking yourself into the community and going
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from there. So this is not certainly
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something that you know, comes easily or naturally.
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And I'm, I know that it is so much around self reflection,
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personal therapy, hard work, all of those things, supervision,
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all those things help to really develop that professional
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maturity that's grounded in your values first and foremost,
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because that's the most important thing at the end of
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the day. So how do we find out people is
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my question to you. It can definitely feel in any
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profession, but especially the helping profession, when it's so
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important for us to adhere to our creative ethics that we
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abide by, that it can feel very lonely.
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And that isolation can really drive that imposter syndrome
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100,000%. So if that's true, if that kind
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of isolation causes us to have that imposter syndrome, the
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reverse is also true, you guys. So finding your community is one
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of the most protective factors in your whole career from
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imposter syndrome and burnout. If you find your tribe, if you
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find your community, and I'm here to say there is a community
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out there for everyone, let me say it again.
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There is a community out there for everyone.
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This is so important, you guys. This is not hypothetical.
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This isn't a maybe. This is.
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I truly, truly hold this value and believe dear that every
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practitioner who has ever felt like they didn't quite fit
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anywhere your people exist. They are out there.
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And often they're looking for you too.
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Let me read that again. Every practitioner who has ever
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felt like they didn't quite fit anywhere.
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Your people exist, they are out there, and often they're looking
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for you too. So how do we recognise our
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people and our community? Spaces that leave you feeling
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expanded and empowered and enriched, instead of small
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conversations where questions are welcomed, not judged or shut
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down. That's really important to
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remember. People who want you to flourish,
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not people who are threatened by your success.
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And leaders. This is, I think, the most
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important part. Leaders who lift others, not who
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guard their territory. That's a big one.
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So a community built around shared values is held together
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by something much stronger, a genuine alignment in what
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matters, which is so important. And when you find your
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community, the imposter syndrome gets quieter, which is good
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because you're surrounded by people who see you, who see what
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you do, and believe in what you do.
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And I have to say, in having that moment today, I am just so
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grateful for the community that I have and the people around me
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who remind me and yeah, value my contributions.
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And everything that I do is just, it is just so wonderful
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and so important to have people. And I'm just so, so grateful.
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I have the most amazing team, like Truly.
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And I can't say that enough. And I have Truly such a
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beautiful community of practitioners who also uplift me
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each and every day. And that is so important, you
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guys, because no one is immune to imposter syndrome.
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I think that's really important. If I'm eleven years in and I'm
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sometimes still having that imposter syndrome, It's
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something that happens across your career.
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It's just how you work to mitigate that.
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And I felt so cold to do this episode today because I do know,
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especially in the beginning, the beginning practitioners in the
30:28
space, that it can sometimes feel overwhelming.
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And you can sometimes feel that imposter syndrome if you don't
30:35
necessarily tick the boxes or are certainly looking at
30:40
different ways to become a play therapist.
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And I just think it's so important to pay attention and
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pay close attention to who makes you feel more like yourself, not
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less. And reach out to those
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practitioners whose work resonates because they are
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people that you are very likely going to connect positively
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with. Most will respond warmly because
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they want to connect as well. Find your peer groups, your
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supervision circles in your communities with values that you
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hold. So if you're early in your
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career and you're feeling lost, your people exist, keep looking.
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It's worth the search, truly. And even to those in different
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helping communities, if you're feeling lost, keep looking.
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Your community is absolutely out there.
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So if today was a hard day for you and we're here, you guys,
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maybe today was a little bit of a hard day for me.
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It started off good, but then it became hard.
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If you're Downing where you belong, the fact that you care
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this much about belonging in the right way is self evidence that
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you belong. Practitioners who don't care
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don't ask these questions. So it shows that this really
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matters to you. And that's so important.
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So, so important. So when you feel not enough to
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kind of round out this episode, notice which voice you are
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hearing. Is it your inner critic or the
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outer critic? Get clear about what you value
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and not just what you stand against.
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And find your people. Look for values and if you can't
32:24
find them, build them yourself. But you will find that
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community. That community exists for you.
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Give yourself time if you're struggling, find the people who
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remind you who you are and believe in you and know that you
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are destined for incredible things because you truly are
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alliant, and decide from there what that looks like for you.
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I want to finish this episode. It certainly had a different
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flavour to how we would normally do sessions, but I really felt
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it was important to share this information for anyone out there
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experiencing that imposter syndrome that you are not alone.
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Your values are important, they ground you into who you are.
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Your path is valid and your community is out there.
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The community is out there. Thank you so much for listening
33:27
today. I would love to know if this
33:28
resonated with you. We are on social media, so we're
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For more information. We would love to connect with
34:02
you there. My message to you all is
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absolutely that you are all doing incredibly amazing work
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and what you do matters and you matter.
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So I am so grateful that you guys are here and that you've
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stuck out this episode. Thank you so much for being
34:22
here. Look after yourselves and each
34:25
other, Be kind to yourselves and each other, and I will catch you
34:29
next time in the playroom. Again, bye for now.
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Thank you so much for being here for another episode of The Play
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Therapy Circle. If anything resonated with you
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It really helps others find our circle.
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And if you have a topic or question you'd love me to
34:53
explore, I'd love to hear from you.
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This space is for you and I want it to feel like a conversation.
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Until next time, take care of yourself and remember you belong
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here.