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The Publicists Panel (w/ Hannah Pilkes) · Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists.
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  Speaker 2: Boy, do we have a panel for you today.
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  Speaker 3: The Streams Screenwriting Expert panel of new Voices in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 5: Buck, Mary Kill wide shot, two shot close up on
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  Speaker 5: Artists on Artists on Artists.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know why they call it show business? I
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  Speaker 2: always wonder that.
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  Speaker 6: Welcome back to.
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  Speaker 7: Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists this week. You've
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  Speaker 7: heard of this podcast, but how turns out there's a
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  Speaker 7: whole team of people behind that.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking p R public relations people that get your name,
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  Speaker 3: your brand, your anything out there for Hollywood to eat up.
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  Speaker 5: So walk nicely, wear your best suit, and stand in
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  Speaker 5: front of the AOAOAOA step and repeat because we are
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  Speaker 5: about to begin.
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  Speaker 4: God, it's crazy. There's so many of us at a table.
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  Speaker 4: This is awesome, This is nuts nuts, nuts great.
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  Speaker 7: I just feel the energy in this room, and I
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  Speaker 7: just know that in about two point five minutes, we're
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  Speaker 7: all gonna get an alert on our phone and we're
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  Speaker 7: gonna have to like leave, like we're gonna have to
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  Speaker 7: deal with like an emergency. I mean, that's what happens
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  Speaker 7: when you get people like us in a room like
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  Speaker 7: we gotta go, you know, especially when.
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  Speaker 4: You have at least twenty to thirty people's names on
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  Speaker 4: a Google alert on your phone that you have to
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  Speaker 4: check in on.
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  Speaker 2: It's oh my god, Oh my god. It never stops.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I'm getting a call. I'm going to step
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  Speaker 6: out for one sec.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, there it is.
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  Speaker 5: There's the first way there.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 4: No shame, no shame, no shame.
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  Speaker 3: Are you Are you joking or is it real? Are
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  Speaker 3: you joking or is it real?
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  Speaker 6: It's part of my job as a PR person.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, yeah, that feels totally real.
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  Speaker 3: So it's real. It's absolutely real.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. That was Tokyo and they are signing on to
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  Speaker 6: a project that I am producing.
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  Speaker 2: The city of Tokyo.
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  Speaker 6: Do you rep Tokyo?
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  Speaker 2: Do you rep?
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  Speaker 6: Hoyo? A lot of artists in Tokyo.
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  Speaker 5: Correct, jealous?
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  Speaker 3: Awesome, we should go.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go around and introduce ourselves so we can all
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 5: Let's all go around the horn. Let's go, let's all
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  Speaker 5: go around the horn.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go around the horn. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I'm Candice Martin and I am a PR person for
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  Speaker 7: celebrity chefs. I represent everybody from Bobby Flay to Inina
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  Speaker 7: Garden and of course Emerald Legassi. If there's somebody cooking,
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  Speaker 7: I'm representing them.
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  Speaker 3: What's up? I'm Toby Tobyson, and I represent bad girls
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  Speaker 3: and bad boys, specifically bad girls and bad boys of Hollywood.
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  Speaker 3: That's it's a lot.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, how's it going. My name is Megan Scoops of
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  Speaker 6: Scoops Shoops Incorporated, and I rep I love the Disney
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  Speaker 6: darlings that you may have seen past, present and future.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not going to use Inndaya.
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  Speaker 4: The Scoops is here, legendary. Can't believe the Scoops. I
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  Speaker 4: am DJ Mark and I rep blankets and different betting products.
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  Speaker 4: I used to work through the Bath and Beyond and
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  Speaker 4: now I am on my own.
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  Speaker 3: That's awesome, so cool.
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  Speaker 5: Well, what's up, guys? Last, but certainly least to be
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  Speaker 5: honest with you. I know I'm the worst one here.
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  Speaker 5: My name is Marvin Wahlberg. I am the publicist and
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  Speaker 5: head publicist of Page one Rewrite Publicity. I handle authors
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  Speaker 5: and I also handle screenwriters. Mostly the people who don't
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  Speaker 5: want to be on camera. Boo boring. They suck boring.
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  Speaker 5: It's fun to be around people who are representing cool
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  Speaker 5: people like teen stars and blankets.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'll say it's just cool to be a
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  Speaker 3: brown people that get the industry. You know, even though
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  Speaker 3: we're all such in a wide field, like we all
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  Speaker 3: get the fundamental thing of whatever our thing is. We
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  Speaker 3: got to get it out there, you know. We gotta
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  Speaker 3: and we got to put out fires. You know, that's
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  Speaker 3: our jobs. We're kind of the first line of defense
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  Speaker 3: and putting.
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  Speaker 7: Out fires, fires, fires, fires, fires all day. I'll tell
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  Speaker 7: you why you've never heard a single bad thing about
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  Speaker 7: in a garden. It's because I'm keeping the secrets from you.
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  Speaker 7: That's It's because that's controlled.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, just give us one, you know what tat Okay,
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  Speaker 8: if you give me a little celebrity gospel, will delete
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  Speaker 8: this obviously.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, let's try love to make PR messy today.
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  Speaker 2: Let's make PR messy. You know, I'll be honest. We've
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  Speaker 2: had a couple of drinks.
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  Speaker 7: I think I'm ready to spill some secrets and to
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  Speaker 7: be completely honest, Ana is I. I recently caught her,
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  Speaker 7: you know, on the phone through the grape vine, speaking
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  Speaker 7: about how she would like to get a new PR person.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't think I mind giving.
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  Speaker 6: You a couple.
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  Speaker 7: So was sort of caught bullying a ski instruct her.
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  Speaker 7: She was in Mammoth with her family.
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  Speaker 6: And uh, gorgeous slopes.
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  Speaker 2: Love which we love for her and this ski guy.
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  Speaker 7: No, So that was the problem, Like this ski instructor
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  Speaker 7: was trying to help her, and you know, if you know, Ana,
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  Speaker 7: nobody tells I know what to do. Okay, nobody tells
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  Speaker 7: I know what to do. And so she immediately snapped
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  Speaker 7: back and threatened to, you know, push him down a mountain.
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  Speaker 7: Find out whose kids are all like really malicious, sort
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  Speaker 7: of evil type stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So that was a fire I had to put out.
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  Speaker 7: I got a call from Mammoth and I rushed over.
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  Speaker 6: Where was she staying in Mammoth?
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  Speaker 2: So she was in that she was in the big
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  Speaker 2: Foot Lodge.
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  Speaker 4: Blankets some blankets there?
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  Speaker 6: Do you wrap it?
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  Speaker 2: The Bigfoot Lodge.
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  Speaker 4: A bunch of a bunch of sheets and stuff?
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  Speaker 5: Individual sheets? You wrap individual? No?
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  Speaker 4: I read the sheet companies that the hotels buy from. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and I and and when hotels take pictures of the
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  Speaker 4: bedding that's dealing with the property of the sheets, then
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  Speaker 4: it goes to me because it's of all print. It's
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  Speaker 4: a whole thing. Somebody say I'm an agent, but I
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  Speaker 4: am not. I am actually just a publicist.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 4: And I want to be really clear on the sank
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  Speaker 4: you so much.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a difference anyway, continue to continue anyway. That well,
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  Speaker 7: that I mean, that's basically it. I have more, but
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  Speaker 7: I don't want to get sued. Marvin, I gave you one.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta show me your trouble.
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  Speaker 5: He gave you the tin. I'll give you the tat.
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  Speaker 5: We've had a couple of drinks, right, three, four or
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  Speaker 5: five drinks we all have here. We've had a couple
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  Speaker 5: of drinks, right, you know. We we stopped by the
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  Speaker 5: Ivy before this and just had some cocktails and seafood.
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  Speaker 5: So we're chatting. Uh, yeah, I'll tell you something. Dan
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  Speaker 5: Brown is uh. He has several family that he has
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  Speaker 5: not disclosed to the world.
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  Speaker 3: They know a lot of sense for angels and demons.
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  Speaker 5: They don't know each other. The angels and demons. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: angels and demons. The demons are you know. His insatiable
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  Speaker 5: urge too. He chronic. I think he has an addiction
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  Speaker 5: to starting families, which is what's crazy about it. He
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  Speaker 5: likes the idea. He doesn't have just these rogue children
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  Speaker 5: that he has. Right, it's not that I've got someone
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  Speaker 5: pregnant on a whim. He starts the family, he marries them.
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  Speaker 7: It's the marriage instinct to continue to marry.
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  Speaker 5: They do the showers, they do everything, they do the wedding,
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  Speaker 5: they invite all, you know, the bride's friends, and then
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  Speaker 5: he disappears and he goes and he starts over.
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  Speaker 6: You do notice the pattern of when he sort of
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  Speaker 6: tires of the family, what compels him to start a
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  Speaker 6: new one.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's when the child is exactly one year old.
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  Speaker 5: There's something about the child being a baby.
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  Speaker 6: Well, they're stupid after that, so I.
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  Speaker 5: Guess that's what it is. They're no longer innocent. We
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  Speaker 5: can all agree. Year one is the age of innocence.
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  Speaker 6: Right right after that, give it to the nanny.
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  Speaker 7: After that, I can't sell like any of us can
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  Speaker 7: represent a baby, no problem. That's when they start saying sentences.
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  Speaker 7: And you know what we say in the pr industry,
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  Speaker 7: Once you start saying sentences, you're already losing.
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  Speaker 6: Always saying that, always saying.
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  Speaker 5: That, I think I learned it from you. Actually, yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 7: One of those quota day calendars that we we really
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  Speaker 7: love to float around here. But Megan, I am dying
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  Speaker 7: to know about these Disney darlings.
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  Speaker 6: Scoop, scoop you want, you want scoop to give the scoop.
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  Speaker 6: I am getting a call. Let me just take this
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  Speaker 6: really quick.
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  Speaker 5: Go ahead?
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  Speaker 6: Uh huh Fire Island? Yeah yeah, no Chutney, Okay, perfect, Thanks. Sorry,
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  Speaker 6: this is my husband, so you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Want to know. He just wanted to know about Fire Island.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. We are trying to re spark. We're trying to
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  Speaker 6: keep the love alive because it it went away a
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  Speaker 6: long time ago.
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  Speaker 5: So you're going to island? Did he suggest?
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  Speaker 4: I thought?
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  Speaker 6: I thought, well, you know, it's very popular among the
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  Speaker 6: gay population, and I thought we could use something more interesting.
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  Speaker 6: He is a straight white man, and I thought, learn,
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  Speaker 6: you know, and I'm trying to sort of push him
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  Speaker 6: away from that.
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  Speaker 3: So I thought it was and the gay population is
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  Speaker 3: going to guzzle him up.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sure, Oh my god, I mean, you're gorgeous, man.
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  Speaker 6: They're gorgeous man.
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  Speaker 7: Very likely being gay is very on trend for heterosexuals
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  Speaker 7: right now, and.
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  Speaker 5: It's a great and I wish I could find a
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  Speaker 5: gay author. I just can't. I want to wrap a
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  Speaker 5: gay author.
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  Speaker 4: God, and would have been dying to find a gay
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  Speaker 4: blanket designer to wrap, dying because or just to get
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  Speaker 4: them to, you know, come out while I'm wrapping them.
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  Speaker 6: That'd be huge, that'd be huge for you. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: Well I could give you a little bit of scoop.
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  Speaker 3: We went a little bit of that, Meganze.
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  Speaker 5: We've all watched it on the TV Guide network. By
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  Speaker 5: the way, we scoops.
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  Speaker 6: You better not. I love that title.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe I got to hear you do it live.
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  Speaker 2: That's incredible.
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  Speaker 5: Means what does that means? Scoop scoop, you better not?
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  Speaker 4: You better not?
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  Speaker 6: Oh man, I don't kiss and tell. But what was
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  Speaker 6: happening was the guy that was micing me was tugging
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  Speaker 6: at me, and I said, you better not. And that
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  Speaker 6: actually stayed in the opening, and I thought, Okay, let's
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  Speaker 6: roll with it, which is funny because people see you
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  Speaker 6: better not, and I'll go all right, I guess.
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  Speaker 5: So not to get to in the weeds here, but
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  Speaker 5: you were recording a thief song on a love mike.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, And I'm feeling a little I'm feeling a little
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  Speaker 6: challenge here.
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  Speaker 5: I thought, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Let's keep it to pr and you can clearly see
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  Speaker 6: I'm a woman going through it.
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  Speaker 5: No, sorry, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Give us that scoop the scoops.
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  Speaker 4: You better not. You better not. Stop tugging on our soundboard.
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  Speaker 4: Stop tugging, stop tugging.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys have seen a show
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  Speaker 6: called That's So.
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  Speaker 4: Raven, you better fucking believe okay this.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if you've seen a character on That's
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  Speaker 6: So Raven called Raven's dad.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, my big character, big, that character, number
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  Speaker 3: one favorite character on that show.
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  Speaker 6: For why do you guys guess how old Raven's dad is?
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  Speaker 5: Forties forty five?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, gone to my head, fifty two eleven? What eleven
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  Speaker 7: years old?
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  Speaker 3: And you did that?
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  Speaker 5: That was your work.
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  Speaker 4: So all those spreads. I was seen of the actor
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  Speaker 4: from That's So Raven on the golf course and he
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  Speaker 4: was a really tall.
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  Speaker 6: Baby, and we knew we had to do something and
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  Speaker 6: we had to do something quick. So what we did
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  Speaker 6: was we hired an incredible makeup team and we aged
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  Speaker 6: him and I mean, come on, he's been working for
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  Speaker 6: ten years and yeah, I guess at least get At
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  Speaker 6: this point, we got into a little bit of hot
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  Speaker 6: water with some labor law stuff because he was three
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  Speaker 6: years old when he started. But I mean, he's taking
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  Speaker 6: that with him to the bank. He's gonna be able
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  Speaker 6: to pay his way through UNI, if you know what
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  Speaker 6: I mean.
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  Speaker 4: So shit, But Scoops, can I say, what makes you
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  Speaker 4: a great hucking PR person is that you planted those seats.
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  Speaker 4: I was watching that actor I don't know go to
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  Speaker 4: chess clubs. I saw TMZ have him go to chess clubs,
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  Speaker 4: and though he does have a baby face, I was like,
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  Speaker 4: he can't be young. He's going to a chess club, right,
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  Speaker 4: He's like, And you have him in like Palmdale and
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  Speaker 4: you have him in places, and that's a good PR
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  Speaker 4: person who was crafting the fucking story exactly.
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  Speaker 6: We had him get a boat, we had him learn
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  Speaker 6: how to operate said boat. We had him going to
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  Speaker 6: you know, we had him going to Denny's getting the
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  Speaker 6: Senior Special, even though he was only playing forty, but
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  Speaker 6: we really wanted to play it up.
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  Speaker 7: That's fucking really overshoot the age and then people split
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  Speaker 7: the difference in their minds.
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  Speaker 3: So he's acting like he's seventy, but he looks eleven.
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  Speaker 3: He must be forty, so he must be.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we split the different.
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  Speaker 6: Just like the camera adds ten pounds, you should add
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  Speaker 6: thirty years so that you're somewhere in the middle.
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  Speaker 4: So the brain goes right in the middle.
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  Speaker 5: That camera adds ten pounds, the PR agent adds thirty.
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  Speaker 6: Years, thirty years, and you can take that with you
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  Speaker 6: to the bank.
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  Speaker 5: I'm taking it.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Marvin. I don't know why I called you Patrick.
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  Speaker 6: I'm kevil, I'm on, I'm on chard time.
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  Speaker 5: I was gonna ask you a quick question about Raven's dad.
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  Speaker 5: It's really interesting to me that you know on set,
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  Speaker 5: and I know as PR agents we really really you know,
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  Speaker 5: as publicists, we don't care about what's actually happening on set, right,
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  Speaker 5: how many of us actually read or watch the things
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  Speaker 5: that are our clients are doing not the right The.
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  Speaker 4: Only thing I care about on set is if any
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  Speaker 4: little fuckers are filming.
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  Speaker 5: You don't anyone filming the blanket.
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  Speaker 6: I can't even read, Megan.
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  Speaker 7: I am glad you said that, because I have also
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  Speaker 7: never learned to read. And I think that as a
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  Speaker 7: PR person, you should not learn to read, because it
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  Speaker 7: does not benefit you in any way, because you know what,
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  Speaker 7: this industry operates on word of mouth.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and.
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  Speaker 5: To read was there was there any drama though? Did
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  Speaker 5: you have to deal with any handling of drama of
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  Speaker 5: having such a young man play the older parent of
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  Speaker 5: you know, Raven and.
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  Speaker 6: You're talking tantrums? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but we've found
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  Speaker 6: a really phenomenal nanny who subsequently, when the nanny left,
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  Speaker 6: that was actually really hard for Raven's dad because it
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  Speaker 6: was sort of ripping this from a child.
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  Speaker 7: But did you have to disguise the nanny as something
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  Speaker 7: else on set like a Yes, nanny was.
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  Speaker 6: Dressed like a large lizard.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, so it makes sense that they're on a movie set.
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  Speaker 3: I get it. So it's well, yeah, it makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: It's like when you when you're fostering pandas you dress
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  Speaker 3: up like a panda, you know exactly, and I guess,
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  Speaker 3: dress up like.
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  Speaker 4: A lizard crafting the story.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it all makes sense if you really think
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  Speaker 6: about it.
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  Speaker 4: That was a juicy one. I'll give you a juicy one.
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  Speaker 5: Let's hear it.
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  Speaker 4: Another fucking game changer company, Parachute okay, a betting company?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, dj I run there.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, I wrap them and their CEO, Tom Jenks, And
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell you this little piece of shit is a
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  Speaker 4: little pimple in my asshole on my little big ass
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  Speaker 4: ball because this kid goes around saying shit, sure, you
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  Speaker 4: invented a fucking blanket company that changed the like the
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  Speaker 4: face of Eco System blankets or whatever the fuck. But
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  Speaker 4: let me tell you, this kid won't stop uh shoplifting. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he's this big ass ceo and his.
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  Speaker 2: Ass How old is he's twenty four four?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, a little old to be shoplifting.
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  Speaker 7: No, yeah, And is that as real age or is
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  Speaker 7: that the age that you've created?
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  Speaker 4: That's the age we created. He's twenty one.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, you made the age you created.
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  Speaker 5: That's a great point.
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  Speaker 3: He's twenty one.
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  Speaker 4: We've built him as twenty four.
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  Speaker 3: Why'd you build him as twenty four? Just you know,
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  Speaker 3: blankets need age up a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: You guys know, with CEOs and startups, there's such a
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  Speaker 4: big difference in crafting a CEO at the age of
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: twenty four versus twenty one. Different game, different ballgame.
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: Same thing. Even's dad was up against. You know, no
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: one was going to cast him as a dad, which
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: is the only role he wanted to play as a baby,
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: and yeah.
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: We demated making guy fiery and ninety five year old man.
• 16:52
  Speaker 7: And then eventually we sort of scaled it back and
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: we were like, well, the goatee wouldn't make sense, so
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: we eventually had to build it back to sort of
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: like mid forties.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: It was a long discussion.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: It's so funny that like screenwriters work with like story
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: and we work with age. Yeah you know what I mean,
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: we craft that and they don't know that. Yeah, they
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: have no idea.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: It's a big, big choice to make Timothy shallow May
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: the age that he is. We were going to actually
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: make him for really, I have.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: Read the I've read the brief that you guys sent
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: out about him, because he's an incredible case study. We're
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: all talking about Timmy in our offices. I think around
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: the water coolers. We're saying, how can we do that.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: We've been trying to do that with George R. Martin
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: and it's just not taking. It's not taking, and it's
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: not working. It's frustrating.
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: I have been trying to shallow May Bobby Flay for years, years.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: And guys, it was work. It was work. I mean
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: he's a bad boy. He's a bad boy boy. We
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: really really pitched bad boy hard on him. He didn't
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: want to take it, but then he can lean into
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: this like rap persona. It's kind of taken off. We're
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: trying to do some bad boy stunts like he's on.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: We have at our offices a scale, you know, we're
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: what we're aiming for our client. And sometimes the scale
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: is are you actually a good person or are you
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: actually a bad person? And where do we want you
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: on our good boy bad boy scale or good girl
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: bad girl scale? Like here's a little tea. We have
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: a good girl right now. We want to keep her
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: a good girl, but she is bad to the bone.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: You guys know Sadie Sink from a Strangers Things. She's
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: the redhead and Stranger Things, very cute. A serial killer.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: She is a serial killer. You don't say she kills
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: a lot of people. She hunts them down in a
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: very brutal, savage way. I mean prying on people for
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: she'll spy on them, she'll hunt them down. She's killed
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: like one of these fucking sick freaks. And she's terrifying
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: to be in a room with, absolutely terrifying to be
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: in a room. But we want her to be good girl.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: So we're trying to figure out how constantly to and
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: this is all getting cut out. Luckily, we're constantly trying
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: to like push the police off of her, put up
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: other kind of diversions, throw off the scent. She calls me,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: She's like, I'm covered in blood. I did it again.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I'm like, Sadie, where are you. She's like, I'm down
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: under the venice pier And I'm like, okay, I'll be
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: there in a second. Get a big broom or something
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: and start sweeping up your footsteps.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: Well, I love to love you more, just step by step.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: I'd love for you to talk about this because I
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: think one of the biggest things, and we've had a
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: few drinks right, one of the biggest things that I
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: think we all deal with is how to get criminal
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: charges to go away. I bet all of us have
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: to deal with that.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: My guy. I was literally just about to be like,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: let's talk law, because for.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: A group of people that don't necessarily know how to read,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: this is going to be huge.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Because I swerve in and out like a fucking snake
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: through that law.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well it's hard. I mean it's hard right.
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: For me and I and I think you can agree
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: and attest to this. Toby, Uh, you know how how
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: you determine who's nice who's naughty? A lot of for
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: me is is just magic. I'm working with Sanna, I'm
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: working with also and so.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: So are you working with Santa?
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Keep no, keep going. I want to hear this out magic.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Wait this we are doing like logic based serious. You
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: were working with Santa firsthand, because I've been wanting to
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: get him though.
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: You were collabing with him on this sort of naughty nice.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: You have no idea how hard I've tried to get
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Santa Claus to jump in because he is so much
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: easier to figure out our good boy, bad boy, good girl,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: bad girl list if he had his hands on it,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: you know, but he will not.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: Kind of break down how you got to collab with Santa?
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: How you got in with Santa? I gotta know.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Oops, I need that scoop. I need that scoop.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Do you work for him as a publicist or it's
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: working for you to help him out?
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: For anybody? Okay, they all work for me. I do
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: work for him, Yeah.
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: I.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: Work for him. It's just something I liked.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: That was just an expression.
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's just something that's sort of pumped me up.
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: I stay up late, and I did come and call
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: Tech with and it turned out Santah did need more
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: PR because I mean, I'm sure you see the film Elf.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: Magic was sort of fading up.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: A really rough year for him.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: Too, really rough, I mean, and for PR. I mean,
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: I don't think you know. We were in a recession.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: People weren't buying things, people weren't going to the movies,
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: and Magic was sort of dead. And I was staying
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: up really late. And I did end up meeting Sannah
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: when he was sneaking in and he stumbled on some
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: hard times. He was wasted, he was drunk on his ass,
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: knocking over. He knocked over a vase ten thousand dollars oz,
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you what mm hm. And we got to
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: talking and he said, let me help you. I control
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: all the loss.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: You weren't going to help him do publishing. He was
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: going to help you with your PR. Firhim. So he's
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: just an employee.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: He said help. He said, help me help you, and
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: I said, help me help you. Question mark one thing,
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: and then we did the handshake. I gave him a cookie.
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: He gave me ten grand.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: And he said, a fucking cookie on you.
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: What a well it was for my for my kid
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: or whatever it was.
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: Christ So, did you go to the North Pole or
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: did he come down to La He.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: Came to Culver City?
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Wow, okay, I have yet.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: To go to the North Pole?
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: Have you?
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: He went to Culvert shitty? If you're asking me, Buck
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Culver shitty.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: So here's a question. Were you the one that started
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: pushing the narrative that non Christians are trying to trying
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: to take Santa Claus out of the narrative. They don't
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: they want happy holidays?
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: That was you?
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: Wow, yeah, thank you? And you're weesome?
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: Why does how is this good for Santa? I'm like
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: so into this strategy.
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: Because Santa needs an edge, you know what I mean.
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: If someone's too wholesome, if someone's kind of too agreeable,
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: if someone's beloved by everyone. I mean, come on, look
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: at your Timothy Shalame bad boy angle right, If Timmy's
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: too kind, he.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Was too kind?
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: We really it kind of started. I noticed a shift
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: in the way Santa was being represented after nine to
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: eleven because we we were a country, right and I
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: think all of our jobs shifted the way I red
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: blankets changed.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: I mean, and DJ, I am curious if this sort
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: of bad girl thing has always kind of been prevalent
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: with you, or is this something that you kind of
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: put on to help with your PR persona.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: No, I'm just a skater boy through and through. I yeah,
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: so I grew up surfing skating, and in college I
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: did a couple things and kept them quiet. And then
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: I had a professor say, you're really good at at
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: keeping bad things you've done quiet, and I said, cheers, sir,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: And then he said you should get into PR. And
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: that's how I got into PR.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: Wow. That that's a wild conversation.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that is a little dark almost.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: It's kind of three sentences that didn't seem like they
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: went together at all. But you said, cheers, journey. I'll
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: tell you what PR.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: How did you guys get into PR?
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't I've been climbing the ladder for
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: years now. You Yeah, I mean I started. I started
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: with a PR firm called Betsy Betsy's.
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: By and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna spill secrets,
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: but man, BB was messy, but they taught me a
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: lot about then and how to keep ship under.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how to keep ship under like bad things.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: And well b B went under, didn't they?
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they went under after that lacrosse scandal.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: Oh god, it was such a shame that.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: Who could clean that one up?
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Though?
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: No?
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: So look, they were these lacrosse.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: PR four PR people. Yes, yeah, exactly, like a therapist.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: That's who we need. We need to be hiring each
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: other like I would.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Actually, I would love to hire all of you.
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: You guys are we should just go clockwise to represent
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: each other?
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: That's too right?
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, how don't we each choose right now who we'd
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: want to represent us, because inevitably someone will get left
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: out And that's also a part of PR.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I think that's really important part of PR.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Go ahead feelings is a part of it. Wow, yeah, scoops. First,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: Go ahead and say that I'd probably go with DJ Marker. I. I,
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: you know, I feel like I haven't had a man's
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: touch in a while, so, uh, sort of being tucked
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: in with bedding, and I love parachute sheets, don't They're
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: not cheap? So if I could get some access to that,
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: And also I think I could learn a little bit
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: from sort of your rough around the edges sort of thing.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: I wow, love, holy fuck, holy fuck. As a pr
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: person for ignanimate objects, that means a lot. That means
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: a lot. I really appreciate DJ.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Here are you choosing? Ah?
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: I think I'd probably have to go with Marvin great
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: because you just seem like a guys guy.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and we can brow out with our holes out. Yeah.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: I just like keeping my holes out, So yeah, let's
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: do it. That's why I would say that, what about.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: You, Let's do it. That's awesome. Well, uh, you know,
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: I kind of think about what I'm looking to be represented,
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: right and how I want to be seen. I it's hard,
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: you know, if I'm picking between Toby and Candace. You know,
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: I'm not necessarily looking to be a bad boy or
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: a good boy. So I think I'm I'm gonna have
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: to go with with Candace because I'm actually pretty good
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: with a with a with a skillet And.
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: That's actually incredible, And I'm so honored because Marvin.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I would love to get.
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: Into the reading world and to finally figured out what
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: those darn shapes mean.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: You know, I have a lot of intel on it
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: because I can't read. We've discussed this, but uh, it is.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: There's some really interesting things going on in books. And
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: when they talk to me and they as in the authors,
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: I am so interested. I'm like, I gotta get to it.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Great, So you're your there's two publicists for for Marvin
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: now and and I.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: The blanket rep is I'm wrapping Scoops, the biggest publicist.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: In the world, and you're you.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: Guys.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's been even so far.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: I think it's all good.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: I think it's.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: As they say.
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: As Scoop said, somebody has always got to be left
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: out in.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: This case and have to be I actually realized how No, it.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Actually looks like everyone was loyal.
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: Okay. It just kind of like agreed with him. Listen, Okay,
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: you want to learn how to read?
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I think okay.
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: I kind of thought that it was like a mutual Listen, Marvin,
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: I would love to work with you.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I would love to have, honestly, any of you represent me.
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: But I specifically wanted to ask Toby because I know
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: you have a connection to Timothy Challame and I have
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: been trying to develop a romantic vehicle for Martha Stewart
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: for a very very long time. You know, we're trying
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: to preserve her as a Something that is integral to
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: Martha's brand that a lot of people don't know because
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: it's subtle, is that she's a cougar. And if she
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: loses the cougar thing, she goes to jail. Don't ask
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: me how. It's a butterfly effect. If she is not
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: seen as a cougar, all the marvels fall down, the
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: dominoes fall down, and she goes back to jail.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: I loved what you were doing with Martha and Snoop.
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: I love I thought I thought she smokes weed. She fucks.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: Yes, she is watching Michael Angelo paint the Sistine fucking Chapel.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Mean like Martha Stewart should fuck. And that's thinking about
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: your clients in every fucking aspect.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I mean that made me.
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: That put me on the map, I would say, and
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: it led a lot of other chefs to say, I
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: want that.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I want that.
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: Emeral Legassi is trying so hard to become the next
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: bad boy. I mean, he was canceled two thousand and seven,
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: been trying to revive him ever since, but he just
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: like isn't getting it, but he is.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: He's on my doorstep.
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: Every day in person, saying I need you to call TMC.
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: I need you to tell them that I'm going to
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: be at this Starbucks and that I'm going to be
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: like wearing sunglasses, and that they need to take pictures
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: of me. He's like trying to go this Paris Hilton angle,
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: and it's like they all want what Martha has, you
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: know what I mean? And like what Martha has is
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: a story that took years and years and years. And
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: I consulted with scientists from MIT, with scientists from Harvard,
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: with scientists from Arizona State University.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: So is it only scientists?
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, DJ, I know you went there.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: I know that's your scientist. Actually very interesting to only
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: talk to scientists not other PR people.
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: Weird because we had to think on a molecular level,
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: what makes what makes a bad boy a bad boy?
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: What makes a bad Martha Stewart a bad Martha Stewart.
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: We had to break it down to the atoms.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Well, thanks for you know, I would happily do a
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: little bit of a thing, you know, get to get
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: my boy in there and get Timmy you know, fucked
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: by Martha Stewart. That'd be top that'd be top dollar
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: for me.
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: Now, that actually is a good question. In order for
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: them to play a couple, a pr couple, do they
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: need to actually fuck or does it?
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: Okay, let's because we all have a we all have
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: probably have opinions on this.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my head, my head, because I live in the
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: bad boy, bad girl world. It's all image. You don't
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: need to fuck to actually fuck, you know, like justin
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Timberlake and Britney Spears. Never once we're in the same
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: room together.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: Wow, wow and zoom how they do that.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Mirrors, tons of mirrors and bodies.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: It's like mommy and.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: We said, don't fucking release this song. Don't fucking release
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: the song. And we had a huge falling out.
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: He knew it was a big inside joke. It was
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: going fuck you, probably to her.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: He was aging out to bad bad Man, bad adult man.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: We just we had to but you could get away
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: with that stuff.
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: Bad Man is eleven, bad boy.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Yes, bad Man yeah, bad Man Wesley Snipe's evading taxes.
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, bad man is tough. Bad Man is tough to
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: work with. Bad Man is poison.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting. You want to go wholesome bad boy wholesome?
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Yes, and you want to be a bad boy with
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: a heart of gold songs.
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: Women you want to be good girl, good girl, girld girl.
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: Then when you become forty, then it's bad bad.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: The bills, well, I will say, we're actually having fun
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: studies with a lot of different things where we're actually
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: finding it four or five year olds. If they are
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: bad at the beginning, girls they crush, they take off.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: If they're like throwing shit, complaining, pulling guns, pulling knives
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: doing all bad girls ship their careers flurish right up
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: the top, like do you guys know? Do you guys
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: know the little girl in Modern Family.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: Which one aerial winter? Yes?
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Or the child in tall like the child.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: The child, Oh, Lily, the baby. We gave her a
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: gun and we told her to just do what she
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: wants in it, and it got tons of good press
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: for her.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: How you spun that press to be good? I'm just
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: curious because I'm always taking notes.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: I'm always without Sanna or anything.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. The immedia headlines where this girl's got a gun,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: she's gone crazy, and we just twisted it a little bit.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: We went Lily's got a gun, She's gone wild, and
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden. She is the face of Zebra magazine.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: She is the face of Young Teen.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: I've been trying to get my clients on Zebra.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: This actually makes sense. I gave Wolf Puck a gun
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: and it did not work in this way at all.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: And now I'm understanding why. Man.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: You know, it's because I like it when when we
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: give our clients an item, and I don't like it
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: when our clients bring an item to us. You know.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah. Stein was trying to push a jet ski
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: on us for so long, and we were.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: We were just to take some photos for he said
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: the line.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: He said, I want to bring my jet ski to interviews.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: I want to show people.
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: Where do you part that thing?
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: Exactly? I said, I can't give this in the doors recording.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: I said, I don't know how to do that. R L.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: It was really difficult, and it's just I just I
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: just let the professionals do the work. Is what I
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: like to tell a lot of.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: My clients pick the item for you.
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: I gave Jojo I crossbow and I don't know if
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: you guys know the single I got a bow?
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Oh oh, scoops.
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: How could I possibly escape that single that plays in
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: elevators that plays, and.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: You're also bearing the lead scoops because you gave Olivia
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: a breakup and we have to talk about that have huge.
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: We give it and we take it away because the
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: truth was and that was when it got dangerous. Sometimes
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: the pr relationships get a little too real and then
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: you got to take it away because we don't have
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: time for real love. And we know that what's the
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: number one rule? They cannot be happy? No, that is
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: the number one.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: How did you do it the breakup? How did you
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: make it happen?
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: I planted it. I planted a cheat situation. I made
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: it a peer that he had taken a lover.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: I dressed nude with him in a.
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: Bed yourself, And so it was with the teenage I.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: Wasn't actually nude because of yes, I was one of one.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Of those units that has like boobies on it.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: That's a political move.
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: Do you sing nude?
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: It's brilliant.
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: You might see those at the beach. It's the person
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: with sort of the droopy titties.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: And it's so funny that she was fooled by that.
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: She's very young enough to be sixteen again and to
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: not be able to tell the difference between a nude
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: bodysuit and a nude body that get get.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: Olivia Rodrigo glasses.
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: God.
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: So she stormed out of the apartment and I took
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: my cigarette and I asked it right on his back.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: And I said, it sounds like you might have been
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: hooking up with him. Actually, well we did. What did
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: you say?
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: What did you say when you asked a cigarette on
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: his back?
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: I said that showbiz baby, give me a scotch? You
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: a little fuck?
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: So did he know you were coming? Did he know
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: that you were going to be there?
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: No, we'd never met in person. No, we'd only court
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: responded over emails.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, so he wasn't enough.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Just made it happen. You just made that ship happen.
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: Because you always got to be making it happen.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: That's three that's always got to be making it happen.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: I got what's the biggest fire you guys have ever
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: gotten out of?
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: Great question, not put out, gotten out of, because there's a.
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: Difference between putting a fire out and then, in pr terms,
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: wriggling out of the fire.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: How everybody wriggles out of the fire.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: The difference once bed bath and Beyond, we're paying their UH.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: They were paying I rep bed Bath and Beyond and
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: they were they were paying their employees under minimum wage.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: And I had to put that fire out by saying,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: you can't do this. And then another time, Bed Bath
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: and Beyond UH didn't have elevators for their UH in
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: half of their stores. And I got out of that
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: fire by having Kate Middleton go on a Sunday do
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: a couple photos, and suddenly we are the family's fucking
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: blanket star. So there's a difference between putting out the
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: fire and getting out the fire. And I love to
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: hear when you guys get out of the fire, Yeah,
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: when you don't really solve the issue, like it's.
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: Sort of put a band aid on the Yeah, you
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: get out of it. You know.
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: I will say when Rachel Ray killed those baby birds
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: like ten years ago, Yeah, I started the Station fire,
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: And that was a fire that ravaged sort of like
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: the hills of Pasadena, and it was sort of like
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: a like, it didn't it didn't really affect Rachel, but
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: it did detract from it the fire that's getting out
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: of the fire in like an indirect sort of way.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: Uh, you know, I I the one that comes to
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: mind was when James Patterson was caught storming the Capitol
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: in January.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: We did you get out?
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: I really want to know what you pulled.
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: We got out of that fire by basically I released
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: a fake manuscript called The Capital storm that James Patterson
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: was coming out with a book called The Capital, and
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: he was there actually independently doing research. We made it
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: look like he was secretly inside looking around already, and oh,
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: who's this a bunch of people that I have been
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: texting all day already. You know, those texts don't come out.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: We scrubbed those and we just made it seem like
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: a coincidence. And that's how we've gotten out of a fire.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: So how did you get that book written?
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: I want to know.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Here's rule four of being a pr okay, okay about
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: being a publicist. Rule four being a publicist is you
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: don't have to get the product out. You just need
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: the variety article. Okay, that's all. We're not going to
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: worry about it.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: I saw the book in Barnes and Noble. It was
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: a cover in two thousand blank pages.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely it is. It's being sold, Yeah, it's being
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: sold as printer paper and in a lot of we're
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: the number one office depot product right now. And money
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: is money. Money is money.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: That is getting out of a fire.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: That's getting out of a fire.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: There's good guys off his depot. I love those guys.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, guy.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: I love good guys. Good guys. They don't do sheets,
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: but I know those guys because it's items. Anyway, keep going.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: The items circuit.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: You're in the items, sir, Megan, what's yours? Megan? What's oh?
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: Well, one that comes to mind sort of off the bat. Uh,
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: when Ariana Grande was licking the cupcake, we introduced a
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: line of spit flavored cupcakes.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Mmmm, that's good.
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: And that wasn't as successful sort of as we.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: But but that's what getting out of the fire is.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: It's not.
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: Stall things for a couple of days and then what
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: we got her was a new boyfriend after.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: That and then really good. It's not succeeding, it's just
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: not failing, that's all.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: It's letting the house. It's letting the house burn, and
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: it's driving to another city. That's exactly if you will
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: let the house burn, let him storm.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: The capitol, because let's be honest, we can't be everywhere
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: at once. We can't be everywhere.
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: Because Lord knows, we try. Lord knows, we try, We try.
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: I have seventeen phones. Seventeen phones, Toby, what's what's your
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: what's the fire you've wriggled out of?
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Well here's one. You know, it's kind of the opposite
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: because it wasn't actually a bad fire. It was people
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: were were it was a good fire. People were in
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: love with Gaiton maduratso they were there was this fire
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: starting that. He was so nice, boring, so nice. So
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: what we did We got some grainy video of him
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: just beating the ship out of a dog, and then
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: he got a prank show out of it.
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: So that's what network was that on.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: That's on Netflix. He is a prank.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Out of a dog.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: That was a grainy old motor fake it or was
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: it like a we deep fake the dog.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: We deep fake the dog, but the it was real.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well he just had to beat up a pillow.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: He just had to beat the shit out of pillow,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: release some anger. But yeah, so yeah, we wanted to
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: give gate In a little bit of edge, a little
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: bit of who the fuck is this guy?
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: That's that's immediately. What I think when I look at him.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: That's getting out of the fire.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Here's a question for the fish bowl. You know, we're
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: all in this industry because we have heroes, and I
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: guess my question is what's your favorite your most famous,
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: favorite famous PR moment in history, you know, because there's
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: so many good ones to pull from. One of mine
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: is the JFK assassination. How they spun that? It was
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: so great?
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, who's they?
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Who did they spun that? They spun that?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: And JFK is like the ultimate bad boy, so I
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: can see why that.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, who was behind that?
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Well, the person Harvey Lee oswaldt was behind it. But
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: they spun it. They I want to know.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, give credit where credits due. Who's the PR person.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: That did that?
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: Was it Harvey Lee Oswald like you.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Said, or was someone repping Harvey?
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Well? The thing was, Harvey was in this PR company
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: called OsO, which means Barren Spanish. And they basically made
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: this idea of like, America the president, what's going on?
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: What if we you know, the president's just been assassinated.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: What if we put a little spin on it and
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: make it something a little mysterious? What if we make
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: this the living history of the world, you know, rather
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: than a who done it? Boring old thing. Let's add
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: some shooters. Let's get some people out there with guns
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: and just running around just to confuse the general public.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Let's kill Lee Harvey Wallswall within ten hours of the
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: assassination and just see what happens. And all of it
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: was was to sell cigarettes.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: Actually, oh really that was actually a huge, huge benefit
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: for books too because of the book depository. It really
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: got people talking about where books come from, and that
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: was really big for us as well. I mean, I
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: try to remember that.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that. I wasn't there, but I read
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: that the bit. One of the biggest things talked about
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: during the JFK assassination is where books come from?
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, good.
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: I didn't know.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: I didn't know what a book to depositive was. Yeah, yeah,
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: so I googled it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I would say for me, though, that wouldn't be
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: my number one I think in history, the biggest pr
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: thing for me would probably be the Gutenberg Bible, right,
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: the Gutenberg Press. I think Gutenberg, as everyone knows. If
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: you're in the book industry like me in the sixteen hundreds,
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: Gutenberg was a real fuck nut. He was a real loser,
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: and he stole that press and he just everyone thought
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: he was such a fucking dork for taking paper and
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: putting symbols on paper, and they said, it's not going
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: to work out. I let's I like to tell stories
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: is what everyone was saying in the sixteen hundreds, and
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: he just changed it all up. And uh, that was
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: good PR for me because it made books look like
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: a good thing. And we all know over eight we
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: don't like him, but yeah, it's it's it's makes money
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: and it it fills my pool with and that's kind
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: of that's where I sit.
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: Interesting choice.
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's nice.
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: I would say my favorite PR moment in history, and
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: this doesn't really have to do with my specific field,
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: but I just like enjoy it for the craft of
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: what it was is when Captain Sully Sullenberger pretended there
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: was a problem with that plane so he could pull
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: that big stunt. I mean, I think that that was
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: just so genius that his team decided to do that,
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: because how else would like, how many plane captains do
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: we know?
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Like none, I only know I know none. I actually personally.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Tell you what I know none except for him.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: And why do we all know that name?
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Because he saved some lives.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I wrap him because he he released the
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: book and you should read the first draft. I'll send
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: it to you. I'll send you the PDF because it's
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: he told the Truth and that it's hilarious.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: I'll send to your way, Megan. What about you, scoops.
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: Scoops, this one was actually rather recent, which I did
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: have a hand. I'm not sure if you guys are
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: familiar with the show Wizards of Waverley Place.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, well, I love that show.
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: The previous title was Wiward's Wizards of Waverley Incorporation Organization. Really,
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: I swooped scooped on in there and I said, Hey,
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: first of all, why is it webserbs? What about Wizards
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: of Waverley Whah?
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: I love that.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: I love that being your favorite PR moment in history.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: That's really wonderful.
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: And I'm a little I'm a little shocked that you
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: guys aren't referencing yourself because, as we all know, rule
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: number six of PR never stop self promoting.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, thank you, scoop.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: I've had a few drinks, so I think I was confused.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: But a few drinks.
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: You've been four blunts. I've had two vats as shard.
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: Okay, No, I'm dying to know who your worst bad client,
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: Like who's a nightmare? Like what bed sheet is a nightmare?
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: I'd have to say airplane blanket?
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Oh you wrap them?
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Been trying to drop them, been trying to drop
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: them for a long time.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: Can't how but how do you drop a client? I mean,
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: that's so hard for me. It's it's been really I've
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: been trying to drop doors, curtains, Goodwin for literally years.
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: She drives me nuts. She's rude, she's loud, and she's
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: messy as hell.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: Is airplane blanket messy as hell?
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: How do you turn them down? Does anyone anyone have
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: advice on how to do that?
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: That's good scoops. I feel like you turned down kids
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: all the time. What do you cruelty?
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: That's seven rule number seven? Don't let them let you
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: get nice?
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: Wow?
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: Wow?
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: Why do not?
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Why not just for the end of this, we just
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: do the rest of the rules.
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: Oh okay, because there's three hundred of them, but we
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: can do the top ten.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: I think we can throw them all out.
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: I think we.
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: Let's see as many as we can get.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah eight, Rule number eight make them hot, Yeah, make
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: them hot real.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: Rule number nine. That little simple rhyme to figure out
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: which late night host is best. We all know this.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: Fallon is for pallin, Colbert is for the cold stare right, and.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Then of course that's a general public.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: Cordon Cordon is for the warden, and Myers is for liars.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: It's great so that we can all keep them all straight.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, it's just like Indika and Stativa that way,
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: where you need the reminder constantly in the couch. Yeah, okay.
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: Cool Kilbourne is for milk porn addiction. Because we're buried
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: because we're good at our job.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: You did that.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: He's with the Disney Darlings.
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: Kibo came up on Disney.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: I ask, I gotta ask, I gotta ask answer. Do
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: you know any inside scoop on if any of us
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: are on the not of your nice list from Santa?
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, this I gotta know.
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: I don't want to be controversial, but believe it or not,
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: he thinks you're doing the Lord's work, so you're all
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: on the nice list.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: There's no way I could be on the nice list
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: after what I did. In college.
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: Well, uh, Santa's pretty fucked up all the time too.
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: In his memory, you can only remember what you did
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: exactly a year ago. That's so good from exactly a
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: year ago. Then you're good.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Wow, Well why don't we end on a little bit
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: of advice then if you let's uh, let's.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: See any young PR people what we would.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Say to them. That feels good?
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's nice, like twelve interns.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Like my quick advice is actually rule ten, which is
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: make them bad, make them as bad as you can,
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: and if they're too bad, make them a little good.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like basically bad bad boys are bad girls.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of what I do. It's a nice log
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  Speaker 3: line for my industry. Okay, who's next?
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  Speaker 5: If you're an author that just looking to be represented,
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  Speaker 5: I would say my biggest advice is learn how to
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  Speaker 5: dress yourself and learn how to do your hair. It's
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  Speaker 5: so much easier if you come in knowing how to
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  Speaker 5: do that. The amount of times that I've had to
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: literally lick my hand and pat Aaron Sorgan's head to
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: get his hair a certain way, it's like these guys
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: are just disheveled little shloves sitting in these rooms by
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: themselves and they come out. You know, they get sunburned
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: by the lights in the studios because they're so pale.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's disgusting. So just learn how to be a
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  Speaker 5: human being. If you're an author or a writer.
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  Speaker 4: Marvin, I don't think licking your hand and touching his
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  Speaker 4: foreheads doing much. That boy looks greasy.
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  Speaker 5: I'm trying well, and it's hard because they won't touch him.
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  Speaker 5: HMU won't touch these guys because they have a smell ordinance.
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  Speaker 5: There's a certain smell. If you hit a certain level,
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: it's it's against the union to be touched. My makeup artists,
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: so it's what we deal with every day. This is
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: a little inside of my world. Just take care of yourself.
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  Speaker 5: If you're a run people, don't do that.
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  Speaker 7: My advice is not actually for publicist, but it is
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: for hummingbirds. Stay away from Rachel Ray's house. You don't
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  Speaker 7: want to go anywhere near there. Trust me, the things
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  Speaker 7: that she will do to you there. I'm a sister
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  Speaker 7: seen everything, and these are crimes against nature, literally, So
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  Speaker 7: just don't do it. If you're thinking all fly south
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: for the winter, fly southwest, okay, cut away from her
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  Speaker 7: house in Houston and keep going.
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  Speaker 2: That's my advice.
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  Speaker 4: Credible I would I'd say, come folded, I'll be short
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  Speaker 4: and sweet, Come volve.
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  Speaker 6: I would have to say, if you don't mind, this
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  Speaker 6: is directed towards any Disney darling looking to get into this. Uh,
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  Speaker 6: I can show you the fame. Drop out of school kids.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, all of our phones are going off
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  Speaker 2: at once.
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  Speaker 6: Do you hear that rumbling?
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's seventeen years Hello, Oh my god, it's Houston.
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  Speaker 4: To Oh God, from a snuggie.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Listen to me. Don't try Gianna's soup.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know how to get a snuggy out of
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: a DUI.
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  Speaker 6: My husband just sent me a divorce paper.
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  Speaker 5: Drop the act, Drop the act, lemonee.
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: Can someone read this paper? I can't read it.
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: There's been artist on ars, artists and artists answering the question. Now,
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  Speaker 5: that's why they call it show business. We'll see you
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  Speaker 5: next week.
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  Speaker 9: Hi.
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  Speaker 5: I am Angela Jertana, I'm Jeremy Colhayne, I'm Patrick McDonald's.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm Kylie Brakman. Artists on Artists on Artists.
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  Speaker 7: On Artists is an improvised Hollywood round table podcast available
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  Speaker 7: on iTunes and Spotify.
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  Speaker 3: You can follow us at aoaoaoa pod on Twitter and Instagram.
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  Speaker 5: That's right, four a's with three o's in between then.
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  Speaker 3: Pod music for this week's episode was provided by Gabriel Ponton.
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  Speaker 1: Our guest this week was Hannah Pilkis. She was featured
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: on Vulture's twenty twenty one list of comedians you should
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: and Will know. And another thing you should and will
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: know because I'm about to tell you, is that on
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: December third, at Union Hall she's performing her show Been
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Dazzled with Chloe Fineman And if you're in the Anti
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Hollywood aka New York City, you gotta stop by. Okay,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: that's all for now, good Night, Hollywood