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#130 - Harry Mack · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: Bulet cav Podcast special guests in here who just tore
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Speaker 1: down the freestyle. Go check that out on the YouTube channel.
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Speaker 1: It's there as well. Harry Mack is here, Yes, sir,
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Speaker 1: welcome Man, Thanks for having me. Man. Hey, yeah, Man,
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Speaker 1: you've been on your shit lately, Bro, Thank you, Bro.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate that. So, for people who don't know, you're kind
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Speaker 1: of known for your ability to rap very well, but
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Speaker 1: more importantly like off of the top of the dome,
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Speaker 1: which is something that is a lost art form. We
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Speaker 1: have a freestyle series on the show, and I would
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Speaker 1: venture to say ninety five percent of the bars that
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Speaker 1: have ever been wrapped on our show is written. We
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Speaker 1: still call them freestyles. Obviously that term is like evolved,
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Speaker 1: but like in the old school old head term that
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Speaker 1: me and you live by, you are the true definition
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Speaker 1: of a freestyle artist. Thank you, Bro. I appreciate that.
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Speaker 1: But no, you've done a really good job of you know,
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Speaker 1: I feel like people before you who might have had
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Speaker 1: your talent also different eras right, but like you've done
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Speaker 1: a good job of like figuring out a way to
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Speaker 1: build like a universe and monetize your skill. So kind
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Speaker 1: of like you've had a great pandemic. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: have Yeah. It's weird to say, you know, because obviously
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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of pain for a lot of
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Speaker 1: people through the pandemic, and I think we've all brushed
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Speaker 1: shoulders with that pain in one way or another. But
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Speaker 1: from a business standpoint for me, and just from a
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Speaker 1: creative standpoint, you know, I've had the time and the
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Speaker 1: space to really build, like you say, build a universe
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Speaker 1: around what I'm doing, and kind of build a brand
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Speaker 1: around being an off top freestyler, right, you know, And
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Speaker 1: I think I'm really fortunate. Man. You mentioned how you know,
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Speaker 1: cats from from the previous era weren't always able to
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Speaker 1: monetize the off top freestyle thing. I feel really fortunate
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Speaker 1: to be alive in this Internet era, you know. I
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Speaker 1: really do think it's almost made for that. Yeah. That's
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Speaker 1: the difference, right. It's like now we live in a
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Speaker 1: time where, you know, previously it's like if you're an
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Speaker 1: incredibly talented off top freestyler, a record label is going
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Speaker 1: to be like, yo, that's dope, we don't know what
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Speaker 1: to do with it. Sorry. You know, it's like okay, cool.
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Speaker 1: Like when you have a hit song, hit us up,
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Speaker 1: you know, Meanwhile, this talent is like insane and everybody
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Speaker 1: who sees it live loves it, but it just doesn't
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Speaker 1: fit in with the structure that sort of exists already. Now,
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Speaker 1: we live in a time where anybody with a phone
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Speaker 1: can get on these free platforms and build a personal
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Speaker 1: brand with whatever they're into doing, and if there's an
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Speaker 1: audience for it that enjoys it, you can monetize it.
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Speaker 1: And so, yeah, I know you've been doing this for
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Speaker 1: a while. I first saw you on the Creuse Show. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: probably four or five years ago. And what is like
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Speaker 1: the platform that like really first started to really like
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Speaker 1: pop off for you in like a serious way. YouTube
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Speaker 1: was definitely the first in terms of like in terms
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Speaker 1: of social platforms you mean yea, yeah, yeah, YouTube was
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Speaker 1: the first one that was the big one actually, YouTube
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Speaker 1: and Facebook. Oddly enough, because I had a video back
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Speaker 1: in February twenty seventeen. It was just called Venice Beach
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Speaker 1: Freestyle Part one and it was just me out there
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Speaker 1: on the Venice Boardwalk. Scary place to be nowadays, by
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Speaker 1: the way, I know, Yeah, it's a lot different now. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: post pandemic or whatever, mid pandemic through right now exactly
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Speaker 1: wherever we're at in this crazy timeline. What is time
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Speaker 1: anymore anyway? But uh no, man, Yeah, I was out there.
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Speaker 1: It was funny. We had been there all day trying
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Speaker 1: to freestyle for groups and stuff and just you know,
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Speaker 1: getting rejected, getting yelled at, hey, don't do this in
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Speaker 1: front of my store, no filming, no whatever, whatever, And
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Speaker 1: we were frustrated, and eventually my boy, who was with
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Speaker 1: me filming it on my phone, was like, yo, just
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Speaker 1: start wrapping and see what happens. So I started rhyming
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Speaker 1: on the on the boardwalk, and one by one, you know,
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Speaker 1: this crowd starts to form, and it was kind of
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Speaker 1: like it was very serendipitous, you know, the crowd that forms.
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Speaker 1: It looks like we hired people to be the crowd
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Speaker 1: because it's so like diverse. And there's like these like
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Speaker 1: preppy boys on bikes and like polos and shorts. Then
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Speaker 1: there's like this stoner couple with a big dude and
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Speaker 1: the Bob Marley shirt, smoking an em you know, and
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Speaker 1: just one by one, it's like you get sort of
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Speaker 1: this whole picture of like the diversity of the Venice
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Speaker 1: strip in front of me. We ended up with like
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Speaker 1: forty or fifty people gathered around me and I'm wrapping
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Speaker 1: at everybody's clothes and everything like that, And that video
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Speaker 1: went super viral, both on YouTube and on Facebook, and
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Speaker 1: that was kind of the beginning of of people knowing
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Speaker 1: about Harry mag I guess, how long have you been
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Speaker 1: doing the omeegal freestyles? Yeah? I guess. Uh, we like
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Speaker 1: a year and a half, right, So you started that
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Speaker 1: during the pandemic. I started it during the pandemic. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: let me ask you something, because that's a sketch place illegal.
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Speaker 1: You know, you might fuck around to go in there.
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Speaker 1: There's a fifty five year old truck driver jerking off, like,
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, absolutely, has that happened? That's specific? Maybe not
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Speaker 1: that's specific. Yeah, well he's like I didn't know his occupation,
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Speaker 1: but it was fifty five and Dick was out. I've
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Speaker 1: seen some things, definitely, I've seen some things, but not
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Speaker 1: as many. So here's the thing. It's funny actually, like
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Speaker 1: before the pandemic, people were making alegal content on YouTube,
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Speaker 1: and so people would be in my comments like, yo,
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Speaker 1: your shit would crush on amigal because really what I
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Speaker 1: make is reaction based content. It's about people who don't
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Speaker 1: know that I'm going to be dope and then I
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Speaker 1: do a freestyle and then hopefully I blow their mind.
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Speaker 1: And that's what's fun about watching it in a large part,
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Speaker 1: so people would hit me up and be like, do
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Speaker 1: it on amgal. But I knew kind of what was
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Speaker 1: up with amgal, and I think I just remember chat
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Speaker 1: roulette back in the day, exactly, and it was like
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Speaker 1: a dark place exactly. They always any any site that
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Speaker 1: randomly pairs strangers on video chat is a recipe for disaster. Yes,
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Speaker 1: like it's gonna be corrupted. So I avoided amgal for
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Speaker 1: a long time, and then you know, a few months
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Speaker 1: into the pandemic, it's like, damn, we can't go out
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Speaker 1: and shoot our regular content, Like let me check this
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Speaker 1: out and see what's up. And actually now it's a
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Speaker 1: lot better than it used to be because they have
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Speaker 1: these tags, interest tags or whatever, so you could type
5:34
Speaker 1: in hip hop, it's like whatever you're into. And they
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Speaker 1: also have much and that creates a lot more filtering.
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Speaker 1: So if you don't use those, you see a ton
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Speaker 1: of dicks. If you use those, I maybe see you know,
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Speaker 1: like in all my time making the series, honestly, in
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Speaker 1: terms of actually seeing a dick. I've probably seen like twenty.
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Speaker 1: It's a solid money and I have like sixty episodes,
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Speaker 1: you know. I mean it's more than I would say
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Speaker 1: terrible ratio though, that's what I'm saying. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: would have liked to have not seen anybody. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's funny. He's not bad, That's what I'm saying. Like
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Speaker 1: people assume because people don't want there to try to
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Speaker 1: find me and they don't know about the interest tags
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Speaker 1: and then so they're just like, I can't find you
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Speaker 1: on me. I just keep seeing dicks. Yeah, and they're like, wow,
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Speaker 1: you must have a terrible PTSD, like you should be counseling,
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Speaker 1: Like the amount of dicks are exposed too must be absurd.
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Speaker 1: But it's really not. It's not as crazy. Yeah. Have
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Speaker 1: you had like a bad experience on there, like where
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Speaker 1: you were freestyling and something weird happened. I've had some
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Speaker 1: sketch experiences on there while I'm freestyling. Yeah, like where
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Speaker 1: where I stopped the freestyling was like, Bro, you know,
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Speaker 1: you need to get help, like people doing like weird
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Speaker 1: drugs and stuff like on the on the screen where
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Speaker 1: like you're wrapping and then someone comes up with a
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Speaker 1: meth pipe, Like yeah, essentially, Yeah, like I don't know
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Speaker 1: what's in it, and it could be a prop, you know,
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Speaker 1: it could be they could be trolling. But it's still
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Speaker 1: just like insanely uncomfortable and I stop it and I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: don't don't do that. Yeah, And also and everyone can
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Speaker 1: see your face and like, don't do you know, people
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Speaker 1: don't understand the internet. It feels like, you know where
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Speaker 1: I'm just like, hey, man, like people forget that that
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Speaker 1: shit is there forever. Yeah, it's on a server somewhere
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Speaker 1: at least forever. And you've got to assume people are
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Speaker 1: screencapping everything you're doing. This is true. So what about
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Speaker 1: the TikTok? And I know you were on Twitch a lot, right,
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Speaker 1: So like those are obviously kind of two platforms that
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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people I know, especially DJs,
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Speaker 1: took advantage of Twitch big time during the pandemic. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and man, I know some people who are getting crazy
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Speaker 1: checks just DJing on Twitch. Hell yeah, how did the
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Speaker 1: Twitch shit for you? Like, cause you know, in the
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Speaker 1: hip hop community, we got Kenny Beads is huge on Twitch.
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Speaker 1: But like, how did you kind of turn what you
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Speaker 1: do into something that worked for the Twitch. Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: with what I do, you know, being being as it's
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Speaker 1: all kind of improvised off top, It's like what I
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Speaker 1: need is some kind of randomization, you know, like people
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Speaker 1: in the chat like, yeah, exactly, we just did a freestyle.
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Speaker 1: You threw me words out loud. That's always dope. That's
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Speaker 1: like the classic way of doing this, and uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: in this case, it's just a live chat feed people
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Speaker 1: putting words in there. Yeah. Yeah, So basically any like
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Speaker 1: live streaming platform, book, live YouTube, live Twitch, they all
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Speaker 1: work really well for what I do. The only the
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Speaker 1: learning curve was like reading it and incorporating it from
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Speaker 1: a written word as opposed to hearing it out loud.
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Speaker 1: It's different. It's like a slightly different part of the
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Speaker 1: brain or something. I don't know the science of it,
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Speaker 1: but it was a bit of a challenge in the
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Speaker 1: beginning because rhyme is all about sound. It has nothing
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Speaker 1: to do with how something spells, like Devil doesn't rhyme
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Speaker 1: with evil. They look like they rhyme correct, but they don't.
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Speaker 1: So you kind of it's like I have to read
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Speaker 1: it and then hear it in my head, and then
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, now I know where to go
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Speaker 1: while you're wrapping, while you're at Yeah, it's a lot
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Speaker 1: of multitasking. It's kind of a what at what point
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Speaker 1: in time were you able to say to yourself, I
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Speaker 1: can fully support my life off of my skill. Wow,
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Speaker 1: that's a great question. I feel like it was like
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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. I feel like twenty eighteen, I did a
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Speaker 1: Mitsubishi commercial and uh, it was crazy because I I
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Speaker 1: was used to being like pretty much broke. You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm a jazz drummer. I don't know if you know that,
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Speaker 1: but I did not know that my background. Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: my background is playing jazz gigs, and so that was
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Speaker 1: like your gig, like, like you besides rapping you were
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Speaker 1: that was like pay the bills and teaching drum lessons. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I've been a professional musician supporting myself for a long time,
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Speaker 1: you know, I think like ten years. Yeah. But but
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Speaker 1: the hustle of a of a jazz drummer in the
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Speaker 1: modern world, as you might imagine, is a serious, an
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Speaker 1: intense hustle, serious hustle. It's an intense hull and it's
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Speaker 1: not you know, it's not glamorous in any sense. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I was playing like bar gigs where we're crammed in
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Speaker 1: a corner and just being told play quieter, play quieter.
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Speaker 1: You know, you're disturbing whatever, you know, don't do your thing,
9:44
Speaker 1: so like stop being so aggressive, and you're out there
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Speaker 1: trying to pour your soul into this thing you love.
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Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, we're doing here for the ambiance. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
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Speaker 1: and we're getting paid fifty bucks or something. And the
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Speaker 1: first couple of gigs we got free drinks. Second gig,
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Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, the bar is not gonna do the
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Speaker 1: free drink thing anymore. But same time, you cool. And
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Speaker 1: so it's a tough grind. Shout out to all the
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Speaker 1: jazz musicians, by the way, and I have a lot
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Speaker 1: of friends who are still in that world crushing it, right,
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Speaker 1: and I know what it really means to be crushing
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Speaker 1: it in that world, So shouts out to anybody doing that.
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Speaker 1: But for me, you know, I was like barely making
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Speaker 1: my rant, barely barely getting by doing jazz gigs. And
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Speaker 1: then in twenty eighteen, I did I got hired to
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Speaker 1: do a commercial for Mitsubishi, which was like kind of
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Speaker 1: based on my videos where I'm dressed up like car
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Speaker 1: salesman at the Mitsubeci dealership and then people getting the
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Speaker 1: car to test drive it, and I'm sitting next to them,
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Speaker 1: and then I'd start rhyming about the car and shit
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Speaker 1: like that out of nowhere and get reactions and stuff.
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Speaker 1: And that was my first like check kind of you know,
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Speaker 1: and it wasn't anything crazy, but like for me at
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Speaker 1: the time, it was like more money than I'd ever seen.
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Speaker 1: It was like just enough to be like, oh, I
10:47
Speaker 1: got to keep doing this exactly, working exactly exactly. And
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Speaker 1: I knew before that that I had to keep leaning
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Speaker 1: into the freestyle thing just from like the popularity of
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Speaker 1: the videos and how much energy there was around it,
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Speaker 1: but that was the first time I kind of like
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Speaker 1: got paid and uh. And then I took some time
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Speaker 1: away from YouTube and was like working on a project
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Speaker 1: and stuff like that, like an album. Yeah, and that
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Speaker 1: was cool, but I kind of like I lived off
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Speaker 1: the money from Mitsubishi for it. It It was like a
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Speaker 1: label advance almost, you know. Luckily I didn't owe it
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Speaker 1: back here, but I lived off it for a while
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Speaker 1: and like worked on shit and didn't really think about
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Speaker 1: like what am I gonna do when this gets low,
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Speaker 1: And sure enough it got low, and again I was
11:25
Speaker 1: at a point where I was like, Yo, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: have to like apply to Trader Joe's and fucking start.
11:28
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to like get a fucking job, you know.
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Speaker 1: Like I looked up one day and was like, I'm
11:31
Speaker 1: gonna have to get a job. And then uh and
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Speaker 1: shout out to my girlfriend, who was like, fuck that,
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Speaker 1: Like you're dope, man. Like people, you have a fan base,
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Speaker 1: you just have to activate some more of this shit
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Speaker 1: and like figure out how to monetize. And that's when
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Speaker 1: I started diving deep into like, Okay, how can I
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Speaker 1: use YouTube like a YouTuber, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Like how can I actually build this out and make
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Speaker 1: money off it? And how can I do the same
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Speaker 1: on ig and Twitch and things of that nature. And
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Speaker 1: since then, like from a business standpoint, we've been able
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13:02
Speaker 1: I know. The pandemic kind of helped a lot of
13:05
Speaker 1: people finally shine because it kind of like reset the
13:09
Speaker 1: world and kind of like I feel like it kind
13:11
Speaker 1: of everybody was starting from the same place, yes, because
13:16
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Speaker 1: like like a certain amount of like maybe it's time
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Speaker 1: opening up or the way people are consuming shit. But
13:35
Speaker 1: did you feel like an uptick in your shit, like
13:37
Speaker 1: when everything shut down big time? I think it was
13:40
Speaker 1: a few things for everyone, and maybe a few things
13:42
Speaker 1: specifically for me. But one was like everybody was at
13:46
Speaker 1: home and everybody was scared, you know what I mean,
13:49
Speaker 1: or uncomfortable or sad or whatever, and people were just
13:54
Speaker 1: looking for content to distract them or to consume their time.
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Speaker 1: You know, people were just sitting on the couch one
13:59
Speaker 1: of the watch something, you know, to pass the time.
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Speaker 1: And so people who were providing content suddenly had an
14:06
Speaker 1: opportunity like to really step up. I think the other
14:09
Speaker 1: thing is like previously, it's like Hollywood is doing these
14:13
Speaker 1: big budgets, super produced things, and everybody else is at
14:16
Speaker 1: home with their little webcam. But then all of a sudden,
14:19
Speaker 1: like overnight, it was like you go on Netflix and
14:21
Speaker 1: people are on webcams. You watch the news and it's
14:23
Speaker 1: like the shitty webcams, you know what I mean, Like
14:25
Speaker 1: everybody was at home proome content with the same webcams,
14:29
Speaker 1: and like suddenly the tech part was taken out of
14:32
Speaker 1: it kind of where it's like it's not such a
14:34
Speaker 1: huge difference between a random YouTube content creator and like
14:37
Speaker 1: what you're seeing on TV. And so that was kind
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Speaker 1: of like a leveler I feel like in a lot
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Speaker 1: of ways, Like figure it was a level playing field
14:44
Speaker 1: in exact way. And so then it just came back
14:47
Speaker 1: to the quality of what you're making, you know. It
14:49
Speaker 1: just came back to like, if you're making something valuable,
14:52
Speaker 1: then you have a you have a chance to really win,
14:54
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah that's real man. Yeah. Pandemic was good
14:57
Speaker 1: to a lot of people. I mean, obviously I'm talking
14:59
Speaker 1: about just career wise, Like I feel like people people
15:02
Speaker 1: definitely like the people who took advantage of the circumstances.
15:05
Speaker 1: You know, well, what did they say when someone gives
15:08
Speaker 1: you shit? Turn it in? Lemonade? An Atmosphere album? Yes, yeah,
15:13
Speaker 1: isn't that an atmosphere album? It is, it is, but
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Speaker 1: it's something it's a twist one, not that it's a twist.
15:17
Speaker 1: Whatever I just said is not the name of the album,
15:19
Speaker 1: but there's some sort of atmosphere album that's close close
15:22
Speaker 1: enough to that. Yes, what are you working on right now?
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Speaker 1: Do you have anything coming? Like? I know you're putting
15:27
Speaker 1: out weekly videos and you're you're on your ship, but
15:29
Speaker 1: like as far as like, are you gonna put out
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Speaker 1: original music soon? Definitely? Definitely. Yeah, I'm going hard on
15:34
Speaker 1: the video content as always, but yeah, in terms of
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Speaker 1: original music, I've been having a lot of fun, man,
15:40
Speaker 1: exploring kind of how to use my freestyling to create records,
15:44
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, because I just don't I don't
15:48
Speaker 1: like to write, Like I don't enjoy sitting with a
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Speaker 1: If I sit with a blank page and a pen,
15:52
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know how to wrap, and
15:53
Speaker 1: I'll just sit there forever looking at it like I
15:55
Speaker 1: what would I what would I ever write right now?
15:57
Speaker 1: You know? And then as soon as it's like okay,
15:58
Speaker 1: play the beat and start the mic, Then as soon
16:00
Speaker 1: as I start rapping, I remember how to wrap. So
16:02
Speaker 1: for me, it's just a thing about process. But we've
16:04
Speaker 1: actually released two little mini EPs, like little three song
16:07
Speaker 1: projects in the last six months or so that were
16:11
Speaker 1: either fully off top or or like a hybrid where
16:13
Speaker 1: it's like I'll jot some ideas and then kind of
16:15
Speaker 1: just go in the booth and go off top. And
16:18
Speaker 1: the fan base has been rocking with them, man, and
16:19
Speaker 1: so I'm excited to continue exploring that path. We just
16:22
Speaker 1: released one called Soliloquies about a month ago that that
16:26
Speaker 1: people are rocking with on my YouTube and stuff like that,
16:28
Speaker 1: and those are coming out to like DSP, Spotify and
16:30
Speaker 1: Apple Music and all that. So I want to continue
16:32
Speaker 1: kind of exploring that process of doing what I'm comfortable
16:35
Speaker 1: with but still being able to release like official albums
16:38
Speaker 1: and projects. What like inspired you to start freestyling back
16:41
Speaker 1: in the day, Like what was that first? Like you know, yeah,
16:45
Speaker 1: It's funny because there's a couple of like really early childhood,
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Speaker 1: Like I saw Wayne Brady on Who's Line when I
16:50
Speaker 1: was in third grade and I was like what I
16:54
Speaker 1: was like, I asked my mom. I was like, wait,
16:56
Speaker 1: what's the trick? Like they give him the stuff ahead,
16:58
Speaker 1: he wrote it in advance and there are a plan
17:00
Speaker 1: Like I was the skeptic in my comment section when
17:02
Speaker 1: I first saw Yeah, because he would make songs about
17:06
Speaker 1: people you know, but he would sing and stuff. It
17:08
Speaker 1: was on whose line, but he would learn their job,
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Speaker 1: favorite color, whatever, whatever, and create this like brilliant song
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Speaker 1: with the chorus and stuff off the top. That was
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Speaker 1: the first time my mind got blown from like lyrical
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Speaker 1: improv and then from a hip hop standpoint, without a doubt,
17:21
Speaker 1: the person that lit the fire for me was Supernatural Supernat. Yeah, yeah,
17:26
Speaker 1: shout out to Supernat, like he's the goat freestyler. I agree,
17:31
Speaker 1: but yeah, I was exposed to a project he had
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Speaker 1: called the Lost Freestyle Files. When I was in like
17:37
Speaker 1: sixth grade. I would walk up to Music Millennium. It
17:39
Speaker 1: was the record store by my house, and one of
17:42
Speaker 1: the dudes who worked there was a hip hop head.
17:43
Speaker 1: So at the end of the hip hop aisle he
17:45
Speaker 1: would put like his top five picks of the week,
17:47
Speaker 1: and one week, one of those top five picks was
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Speaker 1: Supernatural Lost Freestyle Files. And I didn't know who Supernat was,
17:53
Speaker 1: but I was already into freestyling. We would watch like
17:55
Speaker 1: one oh six in Park Battles and stuff like that
17:57
Speaker 1: and just try to try to do our little freestyle.
18:00
Speaker 1: You know. We were super whack, but we were having
18:01
Speaker 1: fun and uh so I saw it in just off
18:04
Speaker 1: the strength of the title. I was like, oh, freestyle files.
18:06
Speaker 1: I like the freestyle, let's check it out. And good
18:08
Speaker 1: thing I did, because that record definitely blew my fucking mind. Man,
18:12
Speaker 1: like that shit, because when I heard Supernat again, it
18:15
Speaker 1: was like the first time I saw Wayne Brady where
18:17
Speaker 1: I was like, it's not possible, Like, how is it
18:19
Speaker 1: so smooth? It sounds written, but yet he's incorporating these
18:24
Speaker 1: things that are proving you know that it's not written,
18:27
Speaker 1: and so like, just that alone was enough of a
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Speaker 1: spark for me to want to like do a deep
18:32
Speaker 1: dive and try to figure that out, and from there
18:34
Speaker 1: you you expand the universe. He had a battle with Juice,
18:36
Speaker 1: so I started checking out Juice and then you get
18:38
Speaker 1: on YouTube, and you know, we were into rhyme sayers
18:41
Speaker 1: and atmosphere and them, and I learned about idea, Who's
18:43
Speaker 1: another idea, phenomenal freestyler, rest in peace, So yeah, freestyle fellowship.
18:48
Speaker 1: You know, bit by bit, we were just nerdy kids
18:49
Speaker 1: trying to learn about the shit. And but yeah, definitely,
18:52
Speaker 1: Supernat was the first dude in a hip hop context
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Speaker 1: that blew my mind with the freestyle and then you've
18:57
Speaker 1: just been sharpening your sword. Yeah yeah, I'm upset, like
19:00
Speaker 1: I'm it's scary. I'm scary. It is pretty crazy. Man,
19:05
Speaker 1: you're fucking yeah. Man, that's no like, uh, you're one
19:10
Speaker 1: of them ones. Oh thank you, Bro. I appreciate that.
19:12
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. It is just it really it comes
19:14
Speaker 1: down to practice and commitment and putting the time in.
19:17
Speaker 1: You know. I always try to mention that because people
19:19
Speaker 1: see what I do and they're like they're baffled by
19:22
Speaker 1: it because they've never thought about how that would work right,
19:24
Speaker 1: the same way I felt when I heard Supernad and
19:26
Speaker 1: they're just like, yo, Like, how's it feel to be
19:28
Speaker 1: born with this? Like incredible blessing and shit like that.
19:31
Speaker 1: I think I was born with a spark, for sure.
19:33
Speaker 1: I think I have a talent for improv and knack
19:35
Speaker 1: for it, But for sure, my first freestyles were whack.
19:38
Speaker 1: You would never hear my first freestyles and be like,
19:40
Speaker 1: he's got it? Would you ever do? What? Have they
19:42
Speaker 1: ever hit you? You do wilding out? No, not officially,
19:45
Speaker 1: not officially. They got to get you on wilding out
19:47
Speaker 1: your body. Everybody on there, I feel like you're just
19:49
Speaker 1: too nice for wilding out though, Oh, because you mean,
19:52
Speaker 1: like literally, like you're a sweet guy. It's true, man,
19:56
Speaker 1: Like I don't battle. People see what I do and
19:58
Speaker 1: they're like, you crush the battle scene Like yeah, yeah, man,
20:00
Speaker 1: I'm too nice for that shit. Yeah exactly, I don't
20:03
Speaker 1: really like this people. You don't want to just black
20:05
Speaker 1: China and make her cry, right exactly? Wilding out? Yeah, No,
20:09
Speaker 1: I think that would be the next thing for you.
20:11
Speaker 1: Got to do that, wi wilding out. I would love to, Seriously,
20:13
Speaker 1: I would love you. Yeah, I would love to, and
20:15
Speaker 1: I think you would be uh. I mean obviously you
20:16
Speaker 1: would kill it. You'd be the best guy on there,
20:18
Speaker 1: you know, easily. But look, I appreciate you coming through.
20:21
Speaker 1: Uh soon, it's gonna be You got a couple EPs
20:23
Speaker 1: out now, Yeah, weekly videos, Your TikTok is going crazy.
20:26
Speaker 1: Everything's going crazy. But the big thing right now, Bro,
20:29
Speaker 1: I'm going on tour tour this year. Yeah, I'm going
20:31
Speaker 1: on tour Energy Exchange twenty twenty two is then your headlining.
20:35
Speaker 1: I'm headlining. It is my headlining tour. Wow, So you're
20:37
Speaker 1: gonna do crowd work work the crowd. Yeah, it's a
20:40
Speaker 1: fully improvised set, even what we'll do if we might.
20:43
Speaker 1: I don't want to leave anything. But basically it's a
20:44
Speaker 1: fully improvised set and uh, it's gonna be crazy. We
20:47
Speaker 1: got to test it out a few times. Uh here
20:49
Speaker 1: in LA. We've done some shows here and it goes
20:53
Speaker 1: crazy and it's gonna be wild. So check it out.
20:55
Speaker 1: We're starting in February and we're going across the US
20:58
Speaker 1: all the way through through the top of May. Wow,
21:00
Speaker 1: good luck, don't catch that omicron. I know. Hopefully we're pasting.
21:04
Speaker 1: Everyone's getting it now, so I hope, I hope we
21:06
Speaker 1: don't have a new joint by that time. I'm boom,
21:08
Speaker 1: there it is man Harry mag