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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Buck Guys Tomorrow Morning for Thursday, February nineteenth.
- 0:03Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tom Moore. The ball State game in
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- 0:23Speaker 1: continuing our look at the Ohio State too deep heading
- 0:26Speaker 1: into springball. Were going to start in the secondary today.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Welcoming and our buddy Tony Gerdamanfucky Huddle dot Com. Tony
- 0:33Speaker 1: the cornerback position, the two outside cornerback positions. This feels
- 0:37Speaker 1: like an area where the starter should be pretty straightforward.
- 0:41Speaker 1: You got Davis Niggnosen leaving, you got a guy who
- 0:44Speaker 1: sure seems like he's the next man up ready to
- 0:47Speaker 1: step into that role. And you had one of the
- 0:50Speaker 1: other leading contenders from last year last year's team, Aaron
- 0:53Speaker 1: Scott hitting the transfer portal. So the starters here feel
- 0:56Speaker 1: like they're pretty straightforward. And after that then it gets
- 0:59Speaker 1: a little more interesting.
- 1:01Speaker 3: Yeah, and even the gap between Devin Sanchez, who played
- 1:05Speaker 3: the third most snaps last year is at number three
- 1:09Speaker 3: and Aaron Scott you're talking about, Devin Sanchez had three
- 1:12Speaker 3: times the snaps as Aaron Scott last year, three hundred
- 1:14Speaker 3: and twenty one to one hundred and six. So while
- 1:17Speaker 3: I'll obviously would love to have Aaron Scott back the
- 1:20Speaker 3: gap in one year, you know, Devin Sanchez coming in
- 1:24Speaker 3: as a true freshman and Aaron Scott as a sophomore
- 1:27Speaker 3: expecting to play. And right away we saw Devin Sanchez
- 1:31Speaker 3: play eleven snaps against Texas and Aaron Scott played zero
- 1:35Speaker 3: on defense. So that job, that third cornerback dime for
- 1:41Speaker 3: a number one dime, that battle was won by Sanchez
- 1:44Speaker 3: in camp and now it's the next step for him,
- 1:48Speaker 3: which is to be the starting corner, which, as you said,
- 1:53Speaker 3: that's the expectation. Jermaine Matthews is back. He played more
- 1:57Speaker 3: snaps than anybody in the secondary last year other than
- 2:00Speaker 3: Jalen McLain to give you an idea of his experience.
- 2:04Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm with you. I think those are your
- 2:07Speaker 3: top two and I'm sure we'll get into the other
- 2:10Speaker 3: guys and their possibilities. But this is a fairly easy answer,
- 2:17Speaker 3: and the only way this isn't the answer is if
- 2:20Speaker 3: something goes wrong or something goes really really right for
- 2:23Speaker 3: somebody else.
- 2:25Speaker 1: And let's get into the somebody else's because there are
- 2:28Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of youth here, but
- 2:30Speaker 1: there's a lot of really promising and talented youth here
- 2:33Speaker 1: among the guys who could be second string or the
- 2:36Speaker 1: guys who could be potentially fighting for you know, in
- 2:39Speaker 1: the in the if something goes very very right kind
- 2:42Speaker 1: of case, could be fighting for a starting job. And
- 2:45Speaker 1: they brought in Dominic Kelly, the transfer from Georgia, and
- 2:47Speaker 1: I think he's probably the first name we should be
- 2:50Speaker 1: talking about here. But they got three talented true freshmen
- 2:53Speaker 1: who could fit in there somewhere as well.
- 2:55Speaker 3: Yeah, and redshirt freshmen as well. And you know, when
- 2:59Speaker 3: you look at who played by lt year and who's returning,
- 3:01Speaker 3: Miles Lockhart is the only other corner that played at
- 3:04Speaker 3: all last year that is returning. He played three snaps
- 3:08Speaker 3: in a couple of games, and you know, I think
- 3:11Speaker 3: everybody kind of expects him to be at Nickel and
- 3:13Speaker 3: we'll talk about him more there for that, But in
- 3:16Speaker 3: terms of who is who is back that has played
- 3:18Speaker 3: like he's it, and you know, Jordan Woods, the other
- 3:22Speaker 3: retro freshman, is very intriguing at six foot four, you know,
- 3:27Speaker 3: one hundred and ninety five two hundred pounds to where boy,
- 3:30Speaker 3: you'd like to find out if that guy can play
- 3:33Speaker 3: and and so they're going to give him that opportunity.
- 3:36Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it begins with Dominic McKinley who
- 3:40Speaker 3: comes in or sorry, Dominic Kelly, who comes in from
- 3:44Speaker 3: from Georgia. As this guy who played eight games as
- 3:47Speaker 3: a true freshman last year, who was you know, a
- 3:52Speaker 3: fine four star blue chip recruit and played at played
- 3:59Speaker 3: big time high school football. And as we keep talking
- 4:03Speaker 3: about him, whenever we're talking about him, he is the
- 4:05Speaker 3: outlier of the transfer portal group. So it's like, why
- 4:09Speaker 3: are they going and getting this young guy? So that's
- 4:12Speaker 3: an intriguing thing. He's got good size, six foot one
- 4:14Speaker 3: ninety and is basically now your third most experienced cornerback
- 4:21Speaker 3: on the team because like I said, he played in
- 4:23Speaker 3: eight games last year, had a couple of past breakups,
- 4:26Speaker 3: he had some tackles, so he to me is the
- 4:29Speaker 3: guy that will make a push and make this interesting,
- 4:34Speaker 3: and then the rest of the story is who who
- 4:38Speaker 3: is four? And that's I think who's five. That's where
- 4:41Speaker 3: the true freshmen then I think, come in and will
- 4:43Speaker 3: battle with maybe Jordan Woods to see who is that
- 4:48Speaker 3: next guy. And I think there's there's some high possibilities
- 4:52Speaker 3: with these true freshmen that we've talked about.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Yeah, Dominic Kelly played sixty one snaps last season among
- 4:58Speaker 1: those eight games at Georgia, and george is one of
- 5:01Speaker 1: those few schools that you can look at and say
- 5:04Speaker 1: that is a talent is equated you know, that's something
- 5:06Speaker 1: we normally talk about in terms of matchups, but here
- 5:08Speaker 1: in terms of just sort of pouring someone over from
- 5:10Speaker 1: one depth start to the other. That it is a
- 5:13Speaker 1: sort of a talent equated situation. Where you figure sixty
- 5:17Speaker 1: one snaps at Georgia, that's probably about sixty one snaps
- 5:19Speaker 1: at Ohio State. So to be at that level as
- 5:22Speaker 1: a true freshman, it's not Devin Sanchez, but it's not bad,
- 5:26Speaker 1: and so there's definitely some possibility there. They are bringing
- 5:30Speaker 1: in three corners who are true freshmen. Jay Timmins, who
- 5:33Speaker 1: they're bringing in out of Western Pennsylvania, Jordan Thomas, who
- 5:36Speaker 1: they're bringing in at the Jersey, and Kamari Bing who
- 5:38Speaker 1: they're bringing out in out of Maryland. Those three guys,
- 5:41Speaker 1: you know, I think we have talked about Timmins as
- 5:45Speaker 1: potentially a nickel guy, and maybe we'll get to him
- 5:48Speaker 1: when we're talking about the Nichols as well. But he's
- 5:50Speaker 1: certainly someone who you could if he's one of the
- 5:52Speaker 1: best options outside, if he's the fourth best option outside,
- 5:56Speaker 1: maybe you see him out there.
- 5:58Speaker 2: But there's enough here that it.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Feels like one of those three guys is likely going
- 6:04Speaker 1: to be solid enough to at least play you know,
- 6:06Speaker 1: sixty sixty ish snaps like Dominic Kelly did last season.
- 6:10Speaker 3: Yeah, wouldn't be a shock at all to see one
- 6:12Speaker 3: of those guys in that too deep as the number
- 6:15Speaker 3: four guy, the number four corner and gets to play
- 6:19Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter of blowouts and maybe sneaks in
- 6:22Speaker 3: as the dime here there. But yeah, I think the
- 6:27Speaker 3: class is good enough that if that happens one that's
- 6:30Speaker 3: not a bad thing at all, because those three guys
- 6:34Speaker 3: are all the profile as a recruit is would lead
- 6:38Speaker 3: you to think, okay, well, you know, maybe they can
- 6:40Speaker 3: do something as a true freshman in that way, and
- 6:44Speaker 3: when you look at him from Pennsylvania, from Maryland, from
- 6:47Speaker 3: New Jersey, all good secondary states. And I'm if you're
- 6:54Speaker 3: asking me which of those guys I've kind of been
- 6:56Speaker 3: on the Jordan Thomas train as an outside guy because
- 6:59Speaker 3: I've vie j Timmins as an inside guy who and
- 7:03Speaker 3: Jordan Thomas has a good size Camarai bang. We don't.
- 7:06Speaker 3: I don't know if that anybody really talks about him
- 7:08Speaker 3: enough kind of a tweety safety corner. We'll see where
- 7:12Speaker 3: he ends up. But we always talk about how you
- 7:15Speaker 3: want to you want to try the guys at corner
- 7:17Speaker 3: first to see if they can handle that, and if
- 7:22Speaker 3: you look at it, it's like, Okay, that guy's a safety.
- 7:24Speaker 3: Then then you move them. At that point, it's like
- 7:25Speaker 3: you'd like to see if he can handle left tackle.
- 7:27Speaker 3: Not Jordan Thomas or Jay Timmins, but you'd like to
- 7:30Speaker 3: see if this offensive line we can handle left tackle.
- 7:32Speaker 3: And then you go from there. And I think when
- 7:35Speaker 3: you bring in three guys at corner, you're gonna want
- 7:38Speaker 3: to see what you can get from each of those
- 7:40Speaker 3: guys outside. And the good news is they're getting some
- 7:42Speaker 3: good they'll be getting some good tests from the Ohio
- 7:44Speaker 3: State Receiving Corps. But yeah, one of those three guys
- 7:47Speaker 3: would not shock me at all to see them as
- 7:50Speaker 3: the number four guy. The other the question is like
- 7:52Speaker 3: how much of a how much of a gap is
- 7:55Speaker 3: there between three and four in this right now or
- 7:58Speaker 3: by the end of spring, But you know, does that
- 8:01Speaker 3: gap close over the course of spring or does it
- 8:04Speaker 3: does it widen because dominic Kelly is getting more comfortable?
- 8:09Speaker 1: Yeah, where where is the bigger gap between two and
- 8:12Speaker 1: three or three and four that and where you know,
- 8:14Speaker 1: how does that change over the course of the spring.
- 8:16Speaker 1: The one thing that I think is probably very encouraging
- 8:19Speaker 1: for Ohio State here is You've got two guys who
- 8:22Speaker 1: I think they should be feeling pretty good about as starters.
- 8:25Speaker 1: You've got Dominic Kelly, who I think it's reasonable to
- 8:27Speaker 1: expect you're going to get something solid out of this year.
- 8:31Speaker 1: I don't, you know, not saying first team All Big
- 8:34Speaker 1: ten this year or anything like that, but you don't
- 8:36Speaker 1: need first team all Big ten out of him this year.
- 8:39Speaker 1: And the true freshman You've got three guys who they're
- 8:42Speaker 1: bringing in, and you know, the guys who they're bringing back.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Obviously you mentioned the couple guys that they've got coming
- 8:49Speaker 1: back as well.
- 8:50Speaker 2: You don't need to hit on all of them.
- 8:52Speaker 1: You need to hit on one of them to have
- 8:55Speaker 1: four guys, and that you know that realistically, that's about
- 8:58Speaker 1: all the depth you're going to play there in any
- 9:00Speaker 1: kind of meaningful snaps as you're barring, you know, just
- 9:03Speaker 1: like a biblical plague of injuries in that room. So
- 9:07Speaker 1: it feels like there's lots of upside there, but they
- 9:11Speaker 1: don't need to hit very much of it to be
- 9:13Speaker 1: in a pretty good spot.
- 9:15Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, you're talking about you're needing the four guys.
- 9:19Speaker 3: And really, when we move on and discussed the nickel
- 9:22Speaker 3: like I one of the reasons the corners you had
- 9:27Speaker 3: five guys played over ninety snaps last year at Corner
- 9:30Speaker 3: is because so many of those snaps went to Nickel
- 9:34Speaker 3: and dime were impacted by the nickel position. And so yeah,
- 9:37Speaker 3: I'm with you. I think if you've got four corners,
- 9:40Speaker 3: that's plenty, and as long as they're good enough to
- 9:43Speaker 3: play and as long as everybody stays healthy, I don't
- 9:45Speaker 3: think you need more than that because it's outside Corner
- 9:51Speaker 3: like basically last year they had Jermaine Matthews, Davis Nigminosen,
- 9:54Speaker 3: Devin Sanchez, and Aaron Scott and you know, Bryce West
- 9:58Speaker 3: played ninety snaps but the major plenty of those were
- 10:01Speaker 3: inside at Nickel so and then Miles Lockhart was the
- 10:04Speaker 3: other guy that played snaps. So yeah, they had four
- 10:06Speaker 3: guys that played outside last year and that's it.
- 10:10Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's there, you go, that's the outside corners.
- 10:13Speaker 1: We keep telling talking about the nickel position and we'll
- 10:16Speaker 1: get to the nickel position and the safety position. Nickel
- 10:19Speaker 1: kind of kind of fits in with the safeties in
- 10:21Speaker 1: the Ohio State defense, but there's a little bit of
- 10:23Speaker 1: a cross over here as well, so you'll probably hear
- 10:25Speaker 1: some of the same names on tomorrow's show when we
- 10:27Speaker 1: break down that. And then of course you got to
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- 11:16Speaker 2: That'll do it for today. Thank you guys all for
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