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"The Cult of Adam" with comic and podcaster Adam Nutter · Caught on the Mike...

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SPEAKER_01: Warning due to some language and subject matter, listener discretion is advised.
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SPEAKER_00: Is stand-up comedy the most dangerous occupation in the world today?
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SPEAKER_00: What is the difference between cancel culture and accountability?
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SPEAKER_00: And are comedians modern philosophers or just merely entertainers in the sociological environment that we now live in?
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SPEAKER_00: Joining me on the podcast today is fellow podcaster and stand-up comedian Adam Nutter.
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SPEAKER_00: He's also a huge MMA enthusiast, much like myself.
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SPEAKER_00: We may not take too deep of a dive in, but we're gonna talk about a lot of these issues and other things you and your friends are gathering around the water cooler and discussing at work every day.
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SPEAKER_00: Coming in hot with this one, ladies and gentlemen, this is Caught on the Mic.
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SPEAKER_00: All the way from Pennsylvania, it is my homeboy, stand-up comic fellow podcaster, Adam Nutter.
1:19
SPEAKER_00: How the hell are you, man?
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SPEAKER_01: Doing great, brother Bear.
1:21
SPEAKER_01: How are you doing, man?
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SPEAKER_00: Oh shit.
1:24
SPEAKER_00: Uh I I couldn't be better.
1:25
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't be better.
1:26
SPEAKER_00: Uh, thanks for joining me on the show today.
1:28
SPEAKER_00: Thanks for having me.
1:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's my pleasure.
1:30
SPEAKER_00: You know, we were just talking before I pressed record.
1:33
SPEAKER_00: You're really from Staten Island originally, right?
1:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:36
SPEAKER_01: I use I do have it.
1:37
SPEAKER_01: I I'm not wearing it today, but I rock a Staten Island hat a lot.
1:40
SPEAKER_01: It's just it's just the logo of the island itself because I'm trash.
1:44
SPEAKER_01: So I'm yeah, I'm Italian.
1:46
SPEAKER_01: My name, I know my name is not Italian, but uh I am Italian trash from Staten Island.
1:51
SPEAKER_01: So uh that's me.
1:54
SPEAKER_01: I am from there.
1:54
SPEAKER_01: It's it's awful.
1:55
SPEAKER_01: I hate it.
1:56
SPEAKER_01: I'm glad I left.
1:59
SPEAKER_01: I'm like right now I'm in Philly with the studio, but I live outside of Philly now.
2:03
SPEAKER_01: Uh and it's I like it.
2:05
SPEAKER_00: So I just got done watching my second rotation of Mike's and men, the Wu Tang clan documentary.
2:12
SPEAKER_00: So I'm all about Staten Island, brother.
2:15
SPEAKER_01: Dude, yeah, first of all, I love Wu Tang.
2:17
SPEAKER_01: That's which I feel like it's like you have to as a Staten Island kid.
2:20
SPEAKER_01: Right.
2:21
SPEAKER_01: Like I'm 34.
2:22
SPEAKER_01: So if you were if you grew up between like 84 and like not even 84, if you grew between 85 and 94 and you're from Staten Island and you don't like Wu Tang, you're not from Staten Island.
2:32
SPEAKER_01: Like you're not, like you're not, like you're an alien, dude.
2:35
SPEAKER_01: Like I yeah, so I used to see this is true, 100% true.
2:38
SPEAKER_01: I would see Method Man at the Staten Island Mall all the time.
2:41
SPEAKER_01: Like, I swear, and I would always be like, Method man, what's up?
2:45
SPEAKER_01: And he'd be like, What's up?
2:47
SPEAKER_01: Same white kid I see all the time yelling at me.
2:50
SPEAKER_01: Like it's like he's like, This is my fucking fan base.
2:53
SPEAKER_01: Just like white kids from Staten Island who don't understand the struggle.
2:58
SPEAKER_01: Like not at all.
3:00
SPEAKER_01: Just a fucking Italian kid who like from the South Shore of Staten Island.
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SPEAKER_01: But yeah, you see him all the time because that like those guys still like live in like Port Richmond and shit.
3:08
SPEAKER_01: They don't live there, like they still live in Staten Island, they live in the nice part of Staten Island, but they still hang out like in all the like with their boys and shit, like in like in like the hood and like the get uh yeah, and like projects and stuff.
3:15
SPEAKER_01: I used to see me all we'd see them all the time.
3:17
SPEAKER_01: It was fucking wild.
3:18
SPEAKER_00: I I think that's the mode of authenticity with Wu Tang, man, is they never forgot where they came from.
3:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so that's awesome.
3:24
SPEAKER_00: Shaolin, man.
3:26
SPEAKER_00: So without any further ado, why don't you introduce yourself and tell us all about yourself?
3:31
SPEAKER_00: Tell us your origin story.
3:33
SPEAKER_01: Uh if I'm an anti-hero of having an origin story, I'll tell you that.
3:37
SPEAKER_00: Every single one of us, my brother.
3:39
SPEAKER_00: Every single one of us.
3:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah.
3:41
SPEAKER_01: If you say you're a hero, you're a fucking if you say you're a hero, you're a sociopath.
3:44
SPEAKER_01: If you say you're a villain, you're being honest.
3:46
SPEAKER_01: If you're saying you're anti-hero, you're being truthful.
3:48
SPEAKER_01: Uh that's what I think.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, no, I I uh yeah, so I'm from Staten Island.
3:53
SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, I'm a comic.
3:54
SPEAKER_01: I've been doing that for I guess this is my I guess it's my ninth year, if you want to count even last year as a year.
4:01
SPEAKER_01: Right.
4:01
SPEAKER_01: You know, COVID was like fucking I did 20 shows.
4:05
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know what I'm saying?
4:06
SPEAKER_01: Like I did twenty.
4:07
SPEAKER_01: I had I had this is how bummer that was.
4:09
SPEAKER_01: Dude, I went from 16 shows I had planned out in April to fucking doing 20 shows for the whole year.
4:15
SPEAKER_01: Like it sucks, dude.
4:16
SPEAKER_01: It was fucking bummer.
4:17
SPEAKER_01: But uh yeah, so fromstand on I'm comic.
4:19
SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm a hardcore and capital libertarian.
4:21
SPEAKER_01: So all you Dave Smith fans out there, if you like him, you'll like me.
4:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh I have uh I do have a podcast, Cult of Us.
4:29
SPEAKER_01: I do with my friend Neil Wood, who's another comic.
4:31
SPEAKER_01: That's our comedy podcast.
4:32
SPEAKER_01: It's super fun.
4:33
SPEAKER_01: I do a fun sports podcast with my other comedy friend Jesse Bedraza.
4:37
SPEAKER_01: That's called Slapstick Sports.
4:38
SPEAKER_01: We talk about sports and just joke around and uh dick around.
4:41
SPEAKER_01: And then I I'm launching my very own libertarian podcast called The Porcupine, and that's dropping either this week or next week.
4:48
SPEAKER_01: So look out for that.
4:49
SPEAKER_01: And that's just old libertarian shit.
4:50
SPEAKER_01: So if you guys are in my politics, check me out for that.
4:53
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I used to play football, I used to do MMA, um, got a bunch of head trauma.
4:58
SPEAKER_01: So now my I can't control my emotions, and uh, I smoke a lot of weed and do mushrooms.
5:03
SPEAKER_01: That's what happens when you uh get head trauma.
5:06
SPEAKER_01: You just do those two things.
5:08
SPEAKER_01: I don't drink anymore.
5:08
SPEAKER_01: I stopped drinking for a while.
5:09
SPEAKER_01: Uh for like I haven't drinking like four years.
5:11
SPEAKER_00: I can like get on board with that.
5:13
SPEAKER_00: Is that something that's becoming more common with dudes like us?
5:16
SPEAKER_01: So I never had a problem with alcohol at all, like ever.
5:19
SPEAKER_01: I I never was like a hard, like I never drank liquor.
5:22
SPEAKER_01: I hate the taste of it.
5:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm like a fucking like I'm like a bitch.
5:24
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I'm like, yeah, it's gross.
5:25
SPEAKER_01: Like I don't want to do shots.
5:26
SPEAKER_01: Like a shots make me gag.
5:27
SPEAKER_01: Like I hate it, but I I love beer, right?
5:28
SPEAKER_01: Like I love the good beer.
5:29
SPEAKER_01: I got good, like nice German beer, nice, you know, like a blue moon, whatever.
5:34
SPEAKER_01: But I was just getting fat, like you know, and I'm like, what am I doing?
5:38
SPEAKER_01: Like to why why I'm why am I drinking to get fat, to feel shitty in the morning, to feel like all the liquid left my body.
5:45
SPEAKER_01: I'm just like a fucking dried out carcass.
5:48
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, this sucks.
5:49
SPEAKER_01: It is nothing for me.
5:50
SPEAKER_01: I don't even get drunk any like I'm not even getting drunk anymore.
5:53
SPEAKER_01: I'm just getting like fucking shit, like shitty, like buzzed.
5:57
SPEAKER_01: It's like, what am I doing?
5:59
SPEAKER_01: It's like so I cut it out and I lost like 25 pounds.
6:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was fucking wild.
6:04
SPEAKER_01: Like it was, it was crazy.
6:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we and it's unhealthy for you.
6:08
SPEAKER_01: Right, absolutely crazy.
6:10
SPEAKER_01: Right.
6:12
SPEAKER_01: If you say weed's bad for you, fuck it.
6:13
SPEAKER_01: Honestly, jump into a lion's mouth.
6:15
SPEAKER_01: You're a fucking idiot.
6:16
SPEAKER_01: Like, I get told this all the time, dude.
6:19
SPEAKER_01: Okay, this is I have a friend of mine whose father was uh he was a cop and he's like long retired, but he was like in the days of like all drugs are bad, and he'll sit there and tell me, like, weed's bad, as he is a hundred pounds overweight while eating just macaroni and cheese and drinking scotch.
6:38
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, Yeah, yeah, I'll listen to you.
6:39
SPEAKER_01: Are you gonna die when?
6:41
SPEAKER_01: Soon?
6:42
SPEAKER_01: Any minute?
6:43
SPEAKER_01: Any minute, you're gonna die?
6:44
SPEAKER_01: It's like I'm like, I think I'll I think I'm okay with weed.
6:48
SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm 160 pounds, I think I'm fine.
6:52
SPEAKER_00: So going back to the podcasting thing, you um you run a business called Drop Temp Media, correct?
6:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so if you can see, I know for people watching, uh I'm on the wall behind me.
7:02
SPEAKER_01: I have a few tiles.
7:03
SPEAKER_01: It's the other podcast on our network.
7:05
SPEAKER_01: It's just a bunch of other comics, not not everybody's a comic, just a collective group of people who want to express, you know, themselves, and we don't limit speech or anything.
7:13
SPEAKER_01: So we're like, go nuts.
7:14
SPEAKER_01: We're like a fucking we're like a shitty guest digital, we're like a Philly guest digital.
7:19
SPEAKER_01: So uh yeah, we have a bunch of podcasts with that with us, and you know, uh most of them are comics, but uh yeah, it's great.
7:24
SPEAKER_01: It's a bunch of different shows, a bunch of different, you know, like we have uh sports shows, fucking uh relationship shows, we have uh a show about like veganism and like we have we have another show coming on about uh called Savagely Black with like three black dudes talking like just culture and hip hop and shit's all they're all comics, it's awesome.
7:41
SPEAKER_01: Oh it's fucking sick, dude.
7:43
SPEAKER_01: We have a lot of fucking awesome shows and it but more common, so yeah, it's awesome.
7:46
SPEAKER_01: And I call on that with Neil.
7:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's awesome.
7:49
SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
7:49
SPEAKER_00: So your new podcast that you're about to launch, the Porcupine, that's yeah, that's that's libertarian based.
7:55
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, so this I I'm I'm glad you you brought that up, you know.
8:01
SPEAKER_00: Usually I I play it pretty politically neutral on my show, but um, but that's because I just don't support the current duopoly, you know.
8:09
SPEAKER_00: I you shouldn't.
8:11
SPEAKER_00: Right, right, right.
8:13
SPEAKER_00: And so so what's it going to take as a libertarian and somebody that's educated and somebody that comes from with a sense of humor?
8:20
SPEAKER_00: What's it gonna take to break that?
8:22
SPEAKER_01: Dude, listen, we're trying right now.
8:24
SPEAKER_01: Like, there's a real see, it's I don't know, like it's it's the problem is like it's not funny, like you know, so it's right just trying to make it funny is hard, but so like this the very bare bones of it is like it's very hard to break people's mindsets, and it's like it's it is that old sheep mentality where it's like, but democrats are good.
8:43
SPEAKER_01: It's like no, but Republicans care about guns.
8:46
SPEAKER_01: No, you know, they don't, no one does, they don't care about you, and and and they think they do, and that's the hardest part to break.
8:55
SPEAKER_01: It's not also the law, we're like they straight like own the laws, the R's and the D's, and when when they want to when the the only time they work together is to keep everybody else, so like they'll constantly change the laws so like we can't run, like libertarians can't run for things.
9:09
SPEAKER_01: Like, so they're always on the ballot, Democrats and Republicans, but like um my buddy Larry Sharp, who ran for governor in New York, right?
9:16
SPEAKER_01: Like he he they they required him to raise like 25 grand and get like let's say 5,000 signatures, right?
9:21
SPEAKER_01: He did that and then went, ooh, actually, now it's 50 grand and 10,000 signatures out of nowhere, just because they could.
9:29
SPEAKER_01: That's the shit that no matter how much you break a right a regular person's mind, well, you gotta still break the fucking uh corruption.
9:36
SPEAKER_01: It's like it's very hard, it's very hard.
9:38
SPEAKER_01: It's very hard.
9:38
SPEAKER_01: It's hard, right?
9:39
SPEAKER_01: Right.
9:40
SPEAKER_01: It's not easy.
9:40
SPEAKER_01: It's just it's called you gotta do it through culture.
9:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I agree.
9:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree.
9:45
SPEAKER_00: It's like when we were in the the election season of 2020, um, and we're like living out the South Park episode of a giant douche versus a turret sandwich.
9:54
SPEAKER_00: It really was.
9:56
SPEAKER_00: It was like it's like, what's it going to take to get a third party candidate out there that the masses will fall behind?
10:02
SPEAKER_00: And it's unfortunately, I feel like it's one of those things where it's gonna take a lot of money, a seasoned politician, and a fucking celebrity because America is obsessed with the cult of personality.
10:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's our thing.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely good at it.
10:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, absolutely it is.
10:23
SPEAKER_00: So, your last episode of the cult of us, I really enjoyed it.
10:29
SPEAKER_00: It was largely focused on the uh cinnamon toast crunch shrimp guy, yeah, it's wild, dude.
10:36
SPEAKER_00: Who's married to Topanga, and you used the term so many times in that episode that I absolutely fell in love with, and I started using it at my day job, and you said bitch energy.
10:48
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, holy shit! That is so because you you talked about how basically, for those that are unfamiliar, yeah, this guy that's married to Topanga from Boys Meets World.
10:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he allegedly found shrimp tails in his cinnamon toast crunch.
11:03
SPEAKER_00: And instead of keeping it completely private, he decides to go to Twitter like a bitch and just further escalate things and escalate things and escalate things.
11:12
SPEAKER_00: I could go, I could go on and on, but really what ended up happening is the guy got me too'd or somewhat me too in the process, yeah, in the weirdest in the weirdest way possible.
11:24
SPEAKER_00: And you described it perfectly.
11:26
SPEAKER_00: It was like he put out some bitch energy, and karma came back and bit him in the ass.
11:32
SPEAKER_01: And when I say a lot of women sometimes get offended when I say bitch energy, and I don't mean female energy, I mean bitch energy, as and you're acting like male or female, it could go either way.
11:43
SPEAKER_01: You're acting like a fucking bitch, and we all know what I mean.
11:45
SPEAKER_01: You're acting like a fucking like don't do that shit, man.
11:48
SPEAKER_01: You're putting out bad karma, it doesn't have to be out there.
11:50
SPEAKER_01: It's bitch energy.
11:51
SPEAKER_01: You put out bitch energy, you're gonna get bitch energy back, and it's gonna slap you in the fucking face twice as hard.
11:57
SPEAKER_00: Not a Republican thing, not a Democrat thing, but what's happened in the past, like say, five to six years to where people use social media to the point where they're abusing it for those means, like like clout.
12:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that well, that's this just it is it bad behavior constantly getting rewarded, or yeah, yeah, that's exactly what because no one let's be honest, dude.
12:21
SPEAKER_01: No one wants to hear uh there's an accident and everyone lived, and there was actually people everyone helped, everyone was actually great at that scene, and it was uh uh not really an emergency.
12:29
SPEAKER_01: Everyone's like, okay, but that story, uh, the guy shot 17 people and caused 42 accidents, and like, you know, and then he was also racist.
12:37
SPEAKER_01: And everyone's like, well, listen to that story instead.
12:39
SPEAKER_01: It's like, because that's the fucking more grandizing thing.
12:42
SPEAKER_01: And the people see that and they go, Oh, well, okay, well, I'm not gonna go out and shoot 17 people, but what I can do is say some fucking crazy shit on Twitter, right?
12:50
SPEAKER_01: Right?
12:51
SPEAKER_01: And that's my way.
12:52
SPEAKER_01: And then people be like, Oh, this guy's or this guy or gals inflammatory, let me follow them.
12:55
SPEAKER_01: Ooh, and then that's a fucking serotonin drip, right?
12:58
SPEAKER_01: It's a fucking dopamine thing.
13:00
SPEAKER_01: It's like likes fucking heart, the heart symbol, it's a dopamine symbol.
13:03
SPEAKER_01: You hit that little dope, uh, it's like hitting the serotonin drip, right?
13:06
SPEAKER_01: So you get those likes, you're like, ooh, ooh, ooh, it's like ding ding ding in your fucking head, and then you're more prone.
13:10
SPEAKER_01: Like, what's his face?
13:11
SPEAKER_01: Jamie Kilstein, comic, right?
13:13
SPEAKER_01: He it he was one of the best examples of like going woke left to fucking for the likes, and then having that bite him in the ass, bitch energy, and then right back, and now he's like, Oh, yeah, that was wrong with me.
13:23
unknown: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: For guys who don't know Jamie Kilstein, he was uh he was a he was comic, a New York comic, and then all of a sudden went super, super woke progressive left and was on Twitter constantly being like, everyone's this, every guy's this, and then he got me too'd, but but he did unrightfully so, he didn't do anything wrong, but he got you know me too'd, and then he was like, Oh, the woke mob is actually bad because they don't understand nuance and fucking truth, they don't want to hear truth, and it's like, yeah, yeah, it's bad, yeah, it's bad.
13:52
SPEAKER_01: It's like it's always bad, but but but people don't care because they'll do because no one thinks it's gonna ever turn around on them, right?
14:00
SPEAKER_00: That's why, right, right, and and it happens on on both sides of the fence, both extremes of the fence, and it's you know, it's ah man, it's it's horrible.
14:09
SPEAKER_00: So, in the context of all of that, you know, you have this big push where people are talking about count cancel culture.
14:17
SPEAKER_00: So, what's the difference between cancel culture and actual accountability?
14:21
SPEAKER_00: I think again, it's very it's nuance, right?
14:23
SPEAKER_01: I think it's absolutely very gray.
14:25
SPEAKER_01: It's it's not a people want it to be black and white, but it's not sometimes it is.
14:30
SPEAKER_01: Are you hurting someone?
14:32
SPEAKER_01: You're not because words don't matter, like you know what I'm saying?
14:35
SPEAKER_01: Like feelings don't matter.
14:36
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, your feelings don't matter.
14:37
SPEAKER_01: All of a sudden they're supposed to, but I don't agree.
14:41
SPEAKER_01: So just because you uh uh by the way, a small portion, a lot, a small, very loud portion of this country thinks that feelings matter more than actual violence.
14:50
SPEAKER_01: Well, I disagree that they don't, and uh you gotta suck it up, but that's gone now.
14:56
SPEAKER_01: So now they want it's so now they're like, oh, I don't like what you said, so I'm gonna ruin you.
15:00
SPEAKER_01: Right.
15:00
SPEAKER_01: It's psychotic.
15:01
SPEAKER_01: It's like it's psychotic because you could just literally not listen to me.
15:06
SPEAKER_01: That's how easy that is.
15:07
SPEAKER_01: It is so easy with social media and technology nowadays to not listen to me, but you're choosing to because you want to be mad at something.
15:15
SPEAKER_01: This is what it is, and this I'm stealing Michael Malice's fucking tweet, but he or not even tweet what he said on Rogan, but it fucking it's perfect.
15:21
SPEAKER_01: It's low-status people who accomplish nothing in life, who had nothing to offer in life.
15:27
SPEAKER_01: They feel big, they feel that's the only opportunity to fucking virtue signal over you.
15:32
SPEAKER_01: That's what that is.
15:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, that's all it is.
15:35
SPEAKER_01: And he once he said that, I was like, that's it.
15:36
SPEAKER_01: That's exactly how I felt.
15:37
SPEAKER_01: I just couldn't put it into words like that, but that's exactly what it is.
15:40
SPEAKER_01: It's people who have nothing going on, who are fucking uncreative, hack losers, who, and that's their only way of being like, I'm better than so-and-so.
15:46
SPEAKER_01: Right.
15:47
SPEAKER_01: Great job, man.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: Like you're a fucking hero.
15:49
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
15:50
SPEAKER_00: And and you you kind of get it, you get it on both sides of the fence because whenever you look at like the conservative side, they kind of do it while hiding behind the the context of religion, yeah.
16:00
SPEAKER_00: Where the left side does it while hiding behind, you know, kind of the social justice norms.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: And it's really you you nailed it, it's nuance, it's about common sense shit.
16:11
SPEAKER_00: It's just like it's like, man, just just be a damn good person, or like don't don't go out with malice.
16:17
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's okay to be honest, and sometimes being honest is being harsh, but you know, it I it's it's intent.
16:24
SPEAKER_00: And what what are you what's your intent?
16:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, dude, the right, the right does this thing with with fucking cancel culture, and then like when a lefty guy says something like that he should be canceled for in their eye, like in the lefty's eyes, the right was like, ooh, cancel him.
16:35
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, you're doing the same thing, but because you guys are doing it like uh in a fucking like you know, tongue-in-cheek way, it's still you're still canceling somebody, right?
16:46
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, even if you're doing it out of like uh fucking hypocrisy, just rub it in their face, which by the way, like and that's the thing I what's I struggle with.
16:53
SPEAKER_01: Because I a part of me goes, yeah, you fucking deserved it because you fucking had a start shit, right?
16:59
SPEAKER_01: But then the other part of me goes, yeah, but then I'm just feeding into it too, and I don't want that.
17:03
SPEAKER_01: Like, what's your face?
17:04
SPEAKER_01: Ellery Smith, right?
17:04
SPEAKER_01: When she just went after Shann again for no reason, right?
17:07
SPEAKER_01: And then she got cancelled.
17:08
SPEAKER_01: And it's like my first reaction truly was like good.
17:11
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, you know what?
17:12
SPEAKER_01: Not good.
17:13
SPEAKER_01: Not good.
17:13
SPEAKER_01: I actually don't want that.
17:15
SPEAKER_01: I don't want that.
17:16
SPEAKER_01: But my first reaction, because I'm sick of that, right?
17:18
SPEAKER_01: I was like, yeah.
17:20
SPEAKER_01: But then I caught myself.
17:21
SPEAKER_01: And the problem is they never catch themselves, right?
17:24
SPEAKER_01: They just go, oh, on to the next.
17:26
SPEAKER_00: Bigger, larger scale, more recent examples in pop culture would be like um, you know, the Gina Carano issue versus the uh major league baseball issue.
17:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the right's pissed off that the left canceled Gina Carano, but the right's pissed off that uh you you know what I'm I'm getting at, but that that major league baseball moved the all-star game out of out of Atlanta.
17:48
SPEAKER_01: So it's like it's well here, and this is my little political insight of why it's all hypocrisy.
17:54
SPEAKER_01: They moved out of Atlanta to go to Colorado, where all those laws exist to a white country to a very white state.
18:01
SPEAKER_01: Right.
18:01
SPEAKER_01: So all they did was pull away black employment.
18:04
SPEAKER_01: That's all they fucking did.
18:06
SPEAKER_01: That's the and that's what I'm saying.
18:07
SPEAKER_01: It's all it's all a show.
18:09
SPEAKER_01: Democrats, Republicans don't care about you.
18:11
SPEAKER_01: It's all a fucking show.
18:12
SPEAKER_01: It's all a fucking show.
18:14
SPEAKER_01: Because I what I just said is true.
18:16
SPEAKER_01: They they they pulled out for voting ID rights.
18:20
SPEAKER_01: Colorado has those laws.
18:22
SPEAKER_01: Like, that's what I'm saying.
18:23
SPEAKER_01: It's not even a joke.
18:24
SPEAKER_01: It's like it's just true.
18:25
SPEAKER_01: And then you go, well, and well, why did they do that then?
18:28
SPEAKER_01: What's the reason?
18:29
SPEAKER_01: Because they did it for a political theater.
18:31
SPEAKER_01: That's it.
18:31
SPEAKER_01: Right.
18:32
SPEAKER_01: And if you can respect that, well, I don't know how.
18:34
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
18:35
SPEAKER_01: I don't know how you can be like, yeah, I'm gonna go vote for fucking blue and red.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: Whatever, man.
18:39
SPEAKER_01: Have at it.
18:41
SPEAKER_01: Have at it.
18:43
SPEAKER_00: So being an MMA guy and being a libertarian, and since we're on the topic and I've already brought her up, what's your take on the whole Gina Carano issue?
18:51
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I think she could say whatever.
18:53
SPEAKER_01: I uh Pedro Pascal, her co-star, did the same exact thing, but the left version of it, and it was fine.
18:59
SPEAKER_01: And what he shared was actually false, right?
19:01
SPEAKER_01: He is like, look at these kids in cages, it's like Nazi Germany.
19:04
SPEAKER_01: It was kids in cages, not in America, and it was also doing like during a picture, I think, during Obama's presidency.
19:10
SPEAKER_01: So like nothing to do with Trump.
19:11
SPEAKER_01: But it's like, oh, you're comparing Nazis to Trump, and now Gina Crano just compared the same thing.
19:15
SPEAKER_01: So you guys did the same fucking thing, but that's okay.
19:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it's either both okay or none of it's okay, but you gotta pick because what you're doing is is very biased and it's very obvious.
19:24
SPEAKER_00: So I have a very business mindset of the whole thing, and it and and to me, neither one was okay.
19:31
SPEAKER_01: Um, but but my point is like, but then that's fine then.
19:35
SPEAKER_01: But then they both it's the here's the thing it's not oh, this is why I fucking hate the social justice shit.
19:41
SPEAKER_01: Right.
19:42
SPEAKER_01: Because by me now doing this, I sound like I'm defending fucking Gina K.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no, no, no.
19:47
SPEAKER_01: I know, but I and you know I'm not, but people will take it at it, and I just have to be like, well, no, I'm actually defending hypocrisy because I I can't stand hypocrisy, and what you're doing is hypocritical, and I'm not gonna stand for it.
19:57
SPEAKER_01: So either they're both not okay or they're both okay, but you can't fucking pick and choose, I'm not okay with that, and what you're doing is picking and choosing, and I'm anti that.
20:05
SPEAKER_01: So whatever that is, I'm that, you know what I'm saying?
20:07
SPEAKER_00: Right.
20:08
SPEAKER_00: The viewpoint that I have of it is like people that work at Disney since since Star Wars is now owned by Disney, uh this is this is the larger, this is the analogy more at large.
20:19
SPEAKER_00: So Star Wars is owned by Disney.
20:21
SPEAKER_00: Let's say you are a character in a Star Wars park or a uh Disney park.
20:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, all the characters in the Disney park, they have to learn how to sign an autograph the same exact way.
20:32
SPEAKER_00: Okay, they have to stay in character the whole time they're in the park, right?
20:39
SPEAKER_00: So it would go, logic would go that um the people that they hire for their shows and that they cast for their shows and such probably have to conform to a certain similar standard, right?
20:53
SPEAKER_00: And this is where they're both wrong, right?
20:56
SPEAKER_00: So if you are if you are expro espousing your political beliefs on social media while you are promoting a branded product, then you are probably going against their their bylines, either which side of the fence you're on, for sure, right?
21:12
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
21:13
SPEAKER_00: Like I hated seeing her go.
21:14
SPEAKER_00: I'm I I like to look at Gina Carano.
21:17
SPEAKER_01: I love Gina Carano, she's she's the original MMA girl, absolutely put it on the map.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, and and I and and I don't honestly believe she understood the depth of what she was sharing either.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: I think she would it was a very black and white issue for her, and that issue within itself has some nuance to it, you know.
21:37
SPEAKER_01: Right, but but again, the same thing for what for the Mandalorian himself is it right?
21:40
SPEAKER_01: It's literally the same thing, but a different way of thought, but it's the same, there's no difference.
21:46
SPEAKER_01: So it's like so it's like that's when I go, okay.
21:47
SPEAKER_01: Well, what's your reasoning then, Disney?
21:49
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's because you guys also think that way.
21:51
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's it.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: There's no other answer.
21:53
SPEAKER_01: There's no other answer, right?
21:55
SPEAKER_01: Logic would dictate that's it, that's the answer.
21:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sorry, but like.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: People oh you're a f oh people don't like to hear it.
22:02
SPEAKER_01: Sorry, but you tell me what it is then because you can't.
22:06
SPEAKER_01: You can't you can't.
22:07
SPEAKER_01: I've I've had the argument with other people, you can't because it all comes back to that.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: I just go cool, Pedro Pascal did it, yeah, and he's still the Mandalorian, which I again I'm fine with.
22:17
SPEAKER_01: I don't give a shit, but it's the inconsistency I care about.
22:21
SPEAKER_01: That's what I care about.
22:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:23
SPEAKER_00: And I I don't know.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: The uh the the dog and pony show that's followed it, I don't think has helped anybody, but that's a different subject and altogether.
22:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:34
SPEAKER_00: So is doing stand-up comedy in these times with these issues in hindsight, is it one of the most dangerous professions on the planet right now?
22:44
SPEAKER_01: No, because uh dangerous would imply that we people try to kill us or fight us, and that's not that's not true.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: Uh sometimes, but like also most comics are fucking pussies, also.
22:54
SPEAKER_01: So, like, like there's like me who like I used to fight, right?
22:57
SPEAKER_01: I used to do MMA, so there's like a handful of us used to actually like box or do something, and then like everyone else is like, I fucking am scared of cheese.
23:04
SPEAKER_01: It's whatever.
23:04
SPEAKER_01: It's like what okay, dude, yeah, I get it.
23:06
SPEAKER_01: So it's like it's just it's like I'm not really nervous, I'm not really feeling danger or threatened in this profession.
23:14
SPEAKER_01: Um, as far as like but it depends, I guess, on your comedy.
23:18
SPEAKER_01: Like, so me personally, like I talk a lot about myself, right?
23:21
SPEAKER_01: Or like uh things I might see observationally, things I see funny, but I'm not really doing anything controversial.
23:26
SPEAKER_01: I don't talk about politics, right?
23:27
SPEAKER_01: Like, right?
23:28
SPEAKER_01: So even though I'm a libertarian, that's like I can't I try to separate that shit.
23:31
SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm not Dave Smith, right?
23:32
SPEAKER_01: I can't, I'm not that good.
23:34
SPEAKER_01: Like, he could do that's his thing.
23:36
SPEAKER_01: That's not my fucking thing, like that.
23:38
SPEAKER_01: Like, I love politics and I love comedy, and it just it's just separate from me.
23:41
SPEAKER_01: I can't.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: I have one bit where I mention I'm libertarian because it's important to the bit, but like I don't talk about it because I don't want to alienate a crowd, you know.
23:48
SPEAKER_01: Uh it's not my thing.
23:49
SPEAKER_01: So like I'm pretty safe.
23:51
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I talk, I'm dirty, but like I people are not gonna get like offended, right?
23:56
SPEAKER_01: Because it's it's making fun of myself mostly, and people no one really cares when you make fun of yourself, like you know, so it's fine.
24:03
SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, for me, it's like but some of my friends you have to navigate some tough shit, you know, they gotta weigh the waters of sharks.
24:10
SPEAKER_00: I think I think more of what I'm coming from is like guys like Chappelle that are are making comedy dangerous again, and that's why it's getting exciting.
24:18
SPEAKER_00: Like, because realistically, the guys like like Chappelle and your Bill Burr and people along those lines are kind of sticking to their guns.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: It's like I'm just gonna fucking be me.
24:28
SPEAKER_00: To be fair though, Chappelle and Burr are so they transcended.
24:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
24:33
SPEAKER_01: Guys like me, or like even guys above a little above me.
24:37
SPEAKER_01: Like, where we can't do this, no fucking way.
24:41
SPEAKER_01: Like, it would be so hard.
24:42
SPEAKER_01: It's not it's not undoable, it's just it would be it's very hard.
24:47
SPEAKER_01: It's it'd be way harder because think about like Chappelle just says whatever the fuck he wants now, like this straight up, no one cares.
24:53
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's that no one cares, people care, but he didn't get canceled.
24:57
SPEAKER_01: Same thing with Bill Burr.
24:58
SPEAKER_01: He went to SNL, was like, white women suck, and was like, eh, and he's like, fuck you, and then he was like, All right, like, like you know, it's like he doesn't give a shit.
25:06
SPEAKER_01: But that's also Bill Burr's point.
25:07
SPEAKER_01: He goes, Like, just don't apologize, right?
25:09
SPEAKER_01: Because once you bend the knee, you fucking give in to the fucking mob, right?
25:13
SPEAKER_00: So just don't it's almost like it's a generational thing, then too.
25:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I hate to be like Gen Z sucks, but like Gen Z fucking sucks, dude.
25:20
SPEAKER_01: Like they do like the listen, our parent generation of boomers, right?
25:24
SPEAKER_01: They weren't fucking great, they had their they had their issues with the country, but they they're they're more like they like economically fucked us, right?
25:30
SPEAKER_01: Like they fucked us in terms of like economics and finances, and and then you have Gen X, who they just fucking they're the helicopter parents of the Gen Z, right?
25:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: So then you have millennials like me, because I it's for 80 to 94, I think.
25:45
SPEAKER_01: I was born in 86, and then we're the ones like we're not great either, but we're the ones who try to hold it together, I feel like, and then you have Gen Z who's just like eh, and we're like, you guys are fucking contributing nothing.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: It's like you guys contribute literally nothing, so it's like it's like I don't know what's going on, but we we still have four generations.
26:00
SPEAKER_01: Think about it, we have four generations living in America right now.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: Oh, we we might even have more than that because you got like okay, you're right.
26:07
SPEAKER_01: But I'm talking about the four ones that right contribute most of society because yeah, you have like the greatest generation still kicking, but they don't they're dead, so like they're they're dying, they're they barely exist, they're dust, they're skeletons, they're skeletons walking, so they contribute nothing anymore.
26:21
SPEAKER_01: So you have the boo you have the boomers still who are still in law, making laws and Senate and all right, they're affecting us.
26:26
SPEAKER_01: Then you get the Gen Xers who are fucking raising shitty kids.
26:30
SPEAKER_01: You get the millennials who are like, we don't really know what we're doing, we're trying our best, and then the Gen Z who are the par are the kids of the fucking Gen Xers who are being fucking shitty to culture.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: So it's like, yeah, we it is it's and all four of those cult uh generations contrast each other so much, they're so far apart, it's so hard to get into a common talking place because like you go on TikTok at all, it's fucking psychotic.
26:54
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I oh yeah, oh absolutely, and it's like it's so weird because I I've done episodes where we've talked about TikTok before, how the algorithms in TikTok work as well, and it and it depends if you're a business account versus uh a personal account and and the things that you see, and it is it does come from all fucking walks of life, and it's insane.
27:16
SPEAKER_01: Here's the thing, dude.
27:17
SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm 34, married, you know, I love my wife, and it's like I go on TikTok and I'm like, I'm uncomfortable with this child shaking her ass in this bikini.
27:26
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, yes, it's not hot.
27:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm an adult.
27:30
SPEAKER_00: Like, like this is creepy, right?
27:33
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
27:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I've got I've got I I shit, you not man.
27:38
SPEAKER_00: I I'm paying for all of my sins of my youth.
27:41
SPEAKER_00: I've got three 14-year-old girls.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: How twin twin stepdaughters and my daughter, oh 14, all the same age.
27:53
SPEAKER_01: What was your past life?
27:54
SPEAKER_01: Did you just rape women?
27:55
SPEAKER_01: Your past life or this is your fucking penance, did you?
28:02
SPEAKER_01: If you believe in fucking reincarnated penance, you have 20 age orders now.
28:06
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
28:07
SPEAKER_00: If if if you believe in a higher power, somebody uh Jesus Christ, dude.
28:11
SPEAKER_00: But like this guy, this guy needs to learn the same exact energy, man.
28:15
SPEAKER_00: I I see those things on TikTok and I I see these kids learning the TikTok dances and this, that, and the other thing, and I'm like, shit, when I was in high school, it was like I uh I remember in high school just playing football because I was again big into football.
28:29
SPEAKER_01: So, like, and by the way, I was not popular in high school at all.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: Uh my teammates fucking hated me because I was a comp book nerd.
28:37
SPEAKER_01: This is true.
28:38
SPEAKER_01: This is also why I learned how to fight.
28:41
SPEAKER_01: This is my story, it's fucked up.
28:43
SPEAKER_01: So I started playing football like at 11, 12, and I was good.
28:50
SPEAKER_01: And I went to high school, I went to a Catholic high school uh in San Antonio and uh started all my I was good, but I was like, this is before Accomplished recall, and before Spider-Man bound recall, I was a big company nerd and I didn't I wasn't like a jock.
29:10
SPEAKER_01: You know, I wasn't I didn't have that mentality, even though I love football and I was a sports head, I fucking played baseball and shit too, but like I just wasn't like a jock.
29:17
SPEAKER_01: So everyone was like, oh fucking, but like come come game day, like, oh you're awesome.
29:21
SPEAKER_01: And then the very next day I practiced, like, fucking loser.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: And they wouldn't like beat me up, but they would bully me, you know?
29:28
SPEAKER_01: And uh I was like I remember at 18 years old, I was like, yo, I'm learning how to fight because I'm dumb getting bullied.
29:35
SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm not going to college and getting bullied.
29:37
SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
29:38
SPEAKER_01: So uh yeah, that's when I learned and then that's when I got to MA.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: I started doing that at 18 years old.
29:42
SPEAKER_01: I had to fucking learn how to fight.
29:43
SPEAKER_01: But like uh yeah, so high school was crazy like that.
29:46
SPEAKER_01: Like, but yeah, I played football for from 12 to 25, like full contact, like full pads, and I did like some fucking uh tuna touch and flag leaks and shit later on.
29:58
SPEAKER_01: But now I'm just an old man on TikTok.
30:00
SPEAKER_00: It's weird, dude.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: It it's it's crazy.
30:02
SPEAKER_00: Your your story and mine are so similar.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: I instead of being an athlete instead of football, mine was music.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: Like, so so I I was the rock band guy, right?
30:13
SPEAKER_00: But I was totally into comic books.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: I I lived in big cities my whole life.
30:17
SPEAKER_00: I used to move all over the United States.
30:19
SPEAKER_00: My my dad had a had a career that caused us to move every two to four years.
30:23
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't military, he worked for Mercedes-Benz.
30:25
SPEAKER_01: If you had so doing what?
30:28
SPEAKER_01: Uh is he a fucking mechan a mechanic?
30:31
SPEAKER_00: No, no, he nothing glamorous.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: He ran parts departments from Mercedes-Benz dealership.
30:37
SPEAKER_00: So I think your dad was an assassin, bro.
30:41
SPEAKER_00: Maybe slam.
30:42
SPEAKER_01: He ran parts.
30:44
SPEAKER_01: He ran parts, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, he's running guns, bro.
30:49
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so I get to high school and I end up in a small town in high school, like, and I've lived in big cities.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: I've lived in Amarillo, Texas, Albuquerque, New Mexico, Denver, Colorado.
30:59
SPEAKER_00: I've lived all over high school.
31:01
SPEAKER_00: I've moved to the small town, less than 5,000 people, and it was the same exact thing, you know.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: I was the band guy, I did the music thing.
31:09
SPEAKER_00: So, of course, I I leaned into martial arts too, you know.
31:13
SPEAKER_00: Like when I was in high school, that's just when UFC one, two, and three were happening.
31:18
SPEAKER_00: So I was doing, I was doing Taekwondo.
31:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, some of my buddies were starting to learn jujitsu as it was new.
31:26
SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, yeah.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: And it's weird how those situations, those bullying situations, inform us as adults and kind of shape who we become later on in life.
31:36
SPEAKER_01: Dude, I I am I am like, if I see bullying in the street, I'll be like, yo, knock that shit out, I'll fuck you up.
31:43
SPEAKER_01: Like straight up, right up.
31:45
SPEAKER_01: Like I use my MMA powers for good.
31:47
SPEAKER_01: Like I straight up will fucking I will instigate fights for j for what I think is justice easily.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: Because I hate bullying.
31:54
SPEAKER_01: So like if I see it, I'm like, no, no, you're not tough.
31:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm actually tough.
31:59
SPEAKER_01: So I'll show you what tough is.
32:00
SPEAKER_01: Like don't fucking because here here's my philosophy with that people act like dicks, adults.
32:07
SPEAKER_01: Adults act like dicks because they go their whole life without getting checked.
32:11
SPEAKER_01: Because people don't check them.
32:13
SPEAKER_01: I will check you.
32:14
SPEAKER_01: I'll be that guy.
32:15
SPEAKER_01: I don't look my I'm I have no muscle on me anymore.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm 160 pounds of but I know what I'm doing, and I will leg kick you, and you will drop, and I will choke you the fuck out.
32:24
SPEAKER_01: And you won't know what to do.
32:25
SPEAKER_01: And I will not easily, easily kick you in your fucking leg, and you because I've leg kicked people like if you ever got to street fight, you leg kick somebody, they don't know what the fuck to do.
32:34
SPEAKER_01: They're like, what just happened to me?
32:36
SPEAKER_01: Like it's like it's like they're world folds in on themselves.
32:38
SPEAKER_01: Like it's fucking that's wild.
32:41
SPEAKER_01: So like I will stamp that out because I hate it.
32:43
SPEAKER_01: I I hate it.
32:44
SPEAKER_01: It's it's just it's it's bully prey shit.
32:46
SPEAKER_01: Like you're praying on people, and it's like I I get like this thing in me.
32:50
SPEAKER_01: Or even dumb shit, I'll like people who talk on speakerphone in public, like in lines, I'll be like, yo, get that off.
32:58
SPEAKER_01: Shut it off your phone.
33:00
SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
33:00
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to hear conflict what'd you say, but shut your phone.
33:04
SPEAKER_01: Shut your phone.
33:05
SPEAKER_01: You're rude.
33:06
SPEAKER_01: Like, don't look at me like I'm rude.
33:08
SPEAKER_01: You're rude.
33:10
SPEAKER_01: I'm not the rude one here.
33:11
SPEAKER_01: And then and then if they I'm like, I like shut it off.
33:14
SPEAKER_01: Or or put it on just regular phone.
33:16
SPEAKER_01: And if they want to push it, I'll be like, oh no, no, no, I'll push it.
33:20
SPEAKER_01: I'll take you outside.
33:21
SPEAKER_01: That's fine.
33:21
SPEAKER_01: We'll go outside.
33:22
SPEAKER_01: And it's like I'm not trying to be like a tough guy, I just want to show like um I people have to learn like not to do this.
33:28
SPEAKER_01: It's not okay to just walk through life and just think you could do whatever the fuck you want.
33:33
SPEAKER_01: Because there's like fucking social class shit that we have to all keep in order for fucking society, goddammit.
33:40
SPEAKER_01: So, like, as libertarian as I am, it's like doesn't mean you get to be an asshole.
33:43
SPEAKER_01: So it's like, you know what I'm saying?
33:45
SPEAKER_01: It's like, it's like, yeah, don't be an asshole.
33:47
SPEAKER_01: So, like, I'll check you.
33:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, be an asshole around me, but you're gonna get checked.
33:50
SPEAKER_01: And 99.99% of the time, people will back the fuck down.
33:55
unknown: Right.
33:55
SPEAKER_01: Because they don't really want to do that.
33:56
SPEAKER_01: They really don't.
33:57
SPEAKER_01: I'll be like, dude, you want, you want to throw hands?
34:00
SPEAKER_01: I'll try to test the smoke, dude.
34:01
SPEAKER_01: And be like, nah, I don't want to.
34:02
SPEAKER_01: It's like that's my fucking thought.
34:04
SPEAKER_01: You don't right.
34:05
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I'm not being tough.
34:06
SPEAKER_01: You just have to learn your fucking lesson.
34:08
SPEAKER_01: Like, you have to learn that you are not tough and don't bully people around you because people, a lot of people don't like confrontation.
34:14
SPEAKER_01: My wife is fucking, she hates me.
34:16
SPEAKER_01: My wife hates me.
34:17
SPEAKER_01: Like, because like I'm so like, no, I'll start a fight with this guy in a restaurant.
34:22
SPEAKER_01: She's like, no, like, just fucking stop, let it go.
34:25
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I can't because everyone lets it go.
34:28
SPEAKER_01: That's why he's doing this, and like that's what she that's what we always argue about.
34:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:32
SPEAKER_01: Always in the argument.
34:34
SPEAKER_00: Same, same, same with my wife, too.
34:36
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, on on the lines of that, um, have you found as you found success as a comic, that some of those people that were that way to you in high school are kind of crawling out of the woodwork and like, hey bro, what's going on?
34:52
SPEAKER_00: Good to see you, kind of thing.
34:54
SPEAKER_01: No, not really.
34:55
SPEAKER_01: I cut ties with almost everybody from Staten Island, honestly.
34:58
SPEAKER_01: Uh, because fuck them.
34:59
SPEAKER_01: Like fuck them, like they're trash, like it's fucking like like it's straight Italian trash from fucking Staten Island.
35:04
SPEAKER_01: Like, you're not going anywhere, you're not doing anything.
35:07
SPEAKER_01: I I still have like a lot of good cop comedy friends from Staten Island who are fucking, but they're doing shit, they're doing comedy, like they're fucking traveling, they just live on Staten Island, but like so many fucking city dude.
35:17
SPEAKER_01: I get it.
35:17
SPEAKER_01: It's just like how many fucking of my friends are sanitation workers, you know what I'm saying?
35:21
SPEAKER_01: Right with like eight kids.
35:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, yeah, you have no money.
35:24
SPEAKER_01: It's like, and I'm not trying to be a dick, but it's like, yeah, man, that's the life you want, I guess.
35:29
SPEAKER_01: But I don't like I want to travel.
35:31
SPEAKER_01: I I I like the fact that I get to travel to do comedy, I get to see the country, I get to like, and even now, I get to go on vacation with my wife, I get to go to Mexico, I get to fucking go, I could, you know, and like, yeah, you guys don't because you live in Stan Island, you live in New York City, which is high ass in taxes, so you're paying out the fucking ass.
35:46
SPEAKER_01: You're a city worker, which is a good job, but you have four kids and you're fucking 35.
35:50
SPEAKER_01: So would you think you're fucking rich?
35:53
SPEAKER_01: Like, like, you know what I'm saying?
35:55
SPEAKER_01: Like, no, you're not.
35:56
SPEAKER_01: Like, you can't go anywhere, and you're gonna be miserable.
35:58
SPEAKER_01: And when I talk to you, you're miserable, and you try to bring me down.
36:02
SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't want to talk to you anymore.
36:03
SPEAKER_01: It's like that's what happens.
36:05
SPEAKER_01: And like, I sound shitty, but it's like I can't keep talking to these fucking guys, like my old friends who like just it's net, it's so negative.
36:14
SPEAKER_01: Right.
36:14
SPEAKER_01: It's so, and I'm like, it it fit, it physically makes me feel like shit.
36:18
SPEAKER_01: And I it sounds like I'm an asshole, I know, but and I give them chances, I give them chances, and I'm like, hey man, let's talk about this.
36:25
SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about this going on.
36:26
SPEAKER_01: It's always like, oh yeah, fucking this hurts.
36:29
SPEAKER_01: Fucking my wife's doing this, the kids, I don't have money, I can't go here.
36:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know that's why I didn't do that.
36:37
SPEAKER_01: Right?
36:37
SPEAKER_01: Like, like I know, you know, you shouldn't have Bitcoin like I did.
36:43
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what to tell you.
36:45
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, it's just it's negativity, dude.
36:48
SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to just escape it, and it's hard.
36:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
36:52
SPEAKER_00: And and and and I commend you for that because you know, for me, like going to high school in a small town, there's something that even though I was not native, there's something that still kind of ties me there.
37:04
SPEAKER_00: And my wife has this rule of thumb that if you uh run from somebody in the grocery store that you know and you hide from them in the grocery store, they shouldn't be your friends on social media.
37:16
SPEAKER_00: I wish I could adhere to that rule too, sometimes, because man, I I I do get I do get those messages from people that you know maybe weren't the kindest back in the day that are just kind of now clout chasing, if you will.
37:30
SPEAKER_00: And maybe maybe they're maybe their intentions are innocuous, but it's just it's crazy, it's crazy life.
37:36
SPEAKER_01: I should say I I sometimes I get a message from someone being like, Oh, so like I've been thinking about doing comedy.
37:41
SPEAKER_01: I go, I'm not your friend.
37:43
SPEAKER_01: We're never we were never friends.
37:45
SPEAKER_01: But my advice, my advice, go hit off mic, and I'll see you on the circuit probably.
37:49
SPEAKER_01: Never.
37:49
SPEAKER_01: So good luck.
37:51
SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: Fuck out of here.
37:53
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, my boy, like you know, I remember what you did to me and said it me, like you never imagined, and again, it's like it's it's like if you were just like, Hey man, I'm sorry I was a dick, it's like, hey man, water under the bridge, I'm fucking fine now.
38:03
SPEAKER_01: I'm 34.
38:04
SPEAKER_01: It's like it is what it is, but it's like I'm not gonna fucking have you just think you still could fucking walk all over me.
38:09
SPEAKER_01: Like fuck out of here.
38:11
SPEAKER_01: Like that's a what world difference, dude.
38:13
SPEAKER_01: Like, I am not who I was in high school, and like if you are, I think you're a fucking loser, right?
38:18
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, you're the same person.
38:21
SPEAKER_01: I have traits, we all have traits of the same we were in high school.
38:23
SPEAKER_01: I think that's good, but if you're the same fucking person you were in high school, you need to walk into a polar bear pit.
38:34
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, like you're what are you contributing?
38:37
SPEAKER_01: Fucking eight other dumb kids who won't contribute shit either.
38:41
SPEAKER_01: Fucking more dumb Italian G in Staten Island?
38:44
SPEAKER_01: Like, we don't need them.
38:45
SPEAKER_01: We already have a dump.
38:46
SPEAKER_01: We already get rid of the dumb.
38:47
SPEAKER_01: We don't need more fucking dumb kids.
38:49
SPEAKER_01: Stupid.
38:50
SPEAKER_01: I'm already dumb from Stanton Island.
38:52
SPEAKER_01: We need more of us.
38:55
SPEAKER_00: So what's next for you?
38:56
SPEAKER_00: So you got the porcupine coming out.
38:58
SPEAKER_00: That's your new podcast.
39:00
SPEAKER_00: Cult of us is going pretty good.
39:03
SPEAKER_00: What's what else is what else is on the plate for you, man?
39:06
SPEAKER_01: Um I hopefully the that little mini tour goes through in the summertime.
39:11
SPEAKER_01: I get to do with uh uh yeah, I'm sure he wanted me to say it.
39:15
SPEAKER_01: You know, Dylan Negri from uh he's producer over Gas Israel.
39:18
SPEAKER_01: He has a con he's also has a podcast, Delta and Dying over over yeah, yeah.
39:22
SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm actually doing his podcast Friday.
39:25
SPEAKER_01: And then uh yeah, and then uh I think him and I and uh his buddy Kevin Sanchez, we might be doing like a mini tour, like Philly, New York, DC, North Carolina, Miami.
39:33
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's awesome.
39:34
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but I'm it's not set in stone, so that's why I'm not saying anything really dropping dance or anything, but I think that's the plan.
39:41
SPEAKER_01: So that's cool.
39:42
SPEAKER_01: I want to fucking do that again.
39:44
SPEAKER_01: I miss it.
39:44
SPEAKER_01: That was fun doing it, and then not and stopping sucks.
39:47
SPEAKER_01: Like we just fucking stopped.
39:49
SPEAKER_01: But like uh, yeah, man.
39:51
SPEAKER_01: Like, I that's the goal, just to get touring again comedy.
39:55
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and then growing cult of us and the porcupine.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: That's really what I want to do.
40:00
SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
40:01
SPEAKER_01: Those are my two things.
40:01
SPEAKER_01: That's my that's my goal.
40:02
SPEAKER_01: That's my three goals.
40:03
SPEAKER_01: Like, just keep doing stand-up, hitting the road back again, and then cult of us, porcupine, grow those two bitches.
40:08
SPEAKER_00: So, cult of us, since we kind of covered the porcupine, what what it's gonna be about at length, just a brief summation of what cult of us is for man, Neil and I fucking just talking about our lives, dicking around.
40:22
SPEAKER_01: It's just us trying to have fun, make you guys laugh.
40:24
SPEAKER_01: Like, that's all it is.
40:25
SPEAKER_01: We're not being serious, like you know, we're not we just try to be goofy and funny.
40:29
SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm a lot of pop culture, it's fantastic.
40:33
SPEAKER_01: Well, just referencing stuff, yeah.
40:34
SPEAKER_01: But it's like, yeah, and like again, uh tonight's episode was just us just riffing about my fucking.
40:40
SPEAKER_01: I did a okay, so essentially I got really, really ripped on RSO oil.
40:48
SPEAKER_01: And if you guys don't know what RSO oil, it's like really concentrated THC oil.
40:54
SPEAKER_01: And I I took like, okay, so they come in syringes of a full gram of RSO, and edibles don't work for me, but if edibles do work for you, the recommended dose for RSO is one drop or two under your tongue, and I took half a syringe and put it on a little Debbie, and then I took my dog for a walk around my neighborhood.
41:18
SPEAKER_01: So I did that, and uh I have my headphones on, having a great time, and I I see an older couple walking where I think is their grandchild, and I'm like, that doesn't look really like a kid though, and I'm getting closer because they're kind of walking slow, and I'm like, nah, it's a weird what type of is that a kid?
41:38
SPEAKER_01: What is that?
41:38
SPEAKER_01: Is that a little person?
41:39
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, no, I'm like, I don't know, that's weird.
41:41
SPEAKER_01: Their head's very small, and I'm getting closer, getting closer, and I'm like, oh, it's a the Benjamin Button person, but not like a not like a negative way, just like oh a progeria, you know, whatever.
41:52
SPEAKER_01: I couldn't think of the name Progeria, couldn't have the name because I was on RSO, ripped on RSO, and I just and I was like, Oh, Benjamin Button, but that's what it was.
42:02
SPEAKER_01: Not negative, not like oh fuck him, just like oh, and then I noticed that they looked angry, and then I was like, why are they angry at me?
42:11
SPEAKER_01: That's weird.
42:12
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Oh, I'm talking out loud, and they heard everything I just said.
42:16
SPEAKER_00: No inner monologue.
42:19
SPEAKER_01: Because I said out loud, oh, look, it's a Benjamin Button person five yards from them.
42:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh shit, and they a hundred percent heard me and a hundred percent were enthralled, and then I was like four feet past them, and I was like, Oh, I said it out loud, and I was like, sorry, and I just kept walking in shame.
42:42
SPEAKER_01: Like I had nothing, I didn't know how to recover, so I just didn't know what to do.
42:46
SPEAKER_01: I was like, if I had if I had a katana, I would have just hardcari myself.
42:52
SPEAKER_01: Like that's uh it felt so bad.
42:55
SPEAKER_01: I really didn't mean to do that.
42:58
SPEAKER_00: That's uh that's my life.
43:00
SPEAKER_00: So that's that's fantastic, man.
43:02
SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, I thank you very much for taking time out to uh shoot the shit with me tonight.
43:08
SPEAKER_00: This has been a lot of fun, and uh dude, I I want to do this again sometime if you do.
43:14
SPEAKER_01: I'm yeah, this is all I do.
43:16
SPEAKER_01: It's my job.
43:16
SPEAKER_01: That that's awesome.
43:18
SPEAKER_00: Now, now I will tell you, I don't know if you've listened to any of my past episodes.
43:22
SPEAKER_00: I I occasionally have some UFC guys on.
43:25
SPEAKER_00: It might be fun next time I have one of those guys on to have you on with me.
43:29
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
43:30
SPEAKER_01: Actually, dude, so um, if you want, uh uh we on Cult of Us, a little quick plug for my cult of us shit.
43:36
SPEAKER_01: Uh, we our Patreon, our three dollar tier, if you if you get joined that, uh, you get all of our access to like our videos, our regular videos we do, but also we do uh UFC watches.
43:47
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's awesome.
43:48
SPEAKER_01: So like you could jump in our Discord and you get to hang out with us.
43:55
SPEAKER_01: Link.
43:56
SPEAKER_01: There you go.
43:57
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
43:58
SPEAKER_01: So for three dollars a month, you hear that everybody hang out in the Discord with us as we watch the fights, like us here at the studio, and then you guys also get to listen and also talk with us.
44:16
SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
44:18
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, maybe it's worth it to you guys for patreon.com slash cult of us to get those extra fun episodes we put out.
44:28
SPEAKER_01: And if you guys like to hear us talk about MMA wink wink, you guys should join that tier.
44:33
SPEAKER_01: So, but Mike, if you want to, uh you could just jump on with us and hang out and like and commentate and stuff with us too.
44:40
SPEAKER_00: Let's do that sometime.
44:41
SPEAKER_00: Let's make plans for that, brother.
44:43
SPEAKER_00: Hey, I want to give a big shout out to my friend Adam Nutter for being on the show today.
44:48
SPEAKER_00: That was a blast.
44:51
SPEAKER_00: Make sure you look for his podcast, The Cult of Us, on your favorite podcast app.
44:58
SPEAKER_00: And Adam himself has a stand-up comedy page on Facebook.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: Search them out.
45:03
SPEAKER_00: Also, search out Adam's company, Drop Tent Media.
45:07
SPEAKER_00: It is a cooperative of other podcasters with different topics all across the board.
45:15
SPEAKER_00: Speaking of cooperative, I cannot be more excited about the next episode that's being recorded later this week, episode 20.
45:25
SPEAKER_00: This has a lot of personal significance with me.
45:28
SPEAKER_00: Just stay tuned to this channel.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: More to come soon.
45:31
SPEAKER_00: This is the part where I normally ask you for your five star rating on your favorite podcast app and to share my social media.
45:38
SPEAKER_00: So if you could do that, that would be awesome.
45:42
SPEAKER_00: This has been Caught on the Mic with Michael Clark.
45:46
SPEAKER_00: I'm Michael Clark.
45:47
SPEAKER_00: Until next time.
45:49
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.