Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 10-12-26 Hour 1 - Broncos win again, I guess/Offense STILL isn't pulling their weight/Ian Eagle's a good kid

Transcript

10-12-26 Hour 1 - Broncos win again, I guess/Offense STILL isn't pulling their weight/Ian Eagle's a good kid · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane On Demand. Listen live
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: every weekday morning from 7 to 10 on Altitude Sports
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Radio 92.5 and.
• 0:10
  Speaker 2: On the Altitude Sports Radio app.
• 0:13
  Speaker 3: I know you got to watch the film.
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: And everything, but initial takeaways, how.
• 0:22
  Speaker 4: Would you assess your performance?
• 0:25
  Speaker 5: I don't think it was, you know, my best for sure.
• 0:29
  Speaker 5: But like you said, I've got to go watch.
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: I just felt like.
• 0:33
  Speaker 5: We got to third downs quickly again. Definitely things there
• 0:38
  Speaker 5: that we can clean up.
• 0:40
  Speaker 4: But again, like I said, I've got to watch.
• 0:42
  Speaker 5: Definitely the game and the feel and the results of
• 0:45
  Speaker 5: drives told me that it wasn't necessarily pretty, but we
• 0:49
  Speaker 5: just found a way to win.
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: Do I have the approval of the listening audience? to
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: have a tinge of anger and disappointment after a win.
• 1:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04
  Speaker 4: Is that okay?
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: Is that okay with everybody? Is that okay today?
• 1:07
  Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, Vic. I jump on the postgame
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: show last night. DMACC comes on. And DMACC talks like
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: he's in the locker room. He's like, what is he
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: already complaining about? They won. It's tough to win in
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: the NFL. I'm like, I don't care. I don't care. Like,
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing, dude. They put the spotlight on the
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: offense by making the change from Davis Webb to Sean Payton.
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: That's what they did. They put the extra spotlight on it.
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: And it looked worse this week.
• 1:36
  Speaker 4: It was worse.
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: And let me tell you something right now. That Chargers team,
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: I think, is starting the year 0-9. They're 0-5 right now. They,
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: in the next four weeks, have at Kansas City, at
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: the Rams, Houston at home, at Baltimore. That's a terrible
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: football team. That's hurt. They didn't have, what, four of
• 1:59
  Speaker 2: their top five receivers out for the game. Four of
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: their top offensive linemen out for the game. That's a
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: terrible team. And you're down seven. And I'll tell you,
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: just the highlight for me is this. Two different plays
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: in that game that told me everything I need to
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: know about Sean Payton's confidence right now in his quarterback.
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: It's a tie game and it's fourth and goal from
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: the one yard line. I don't think there's a team
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: in the league that kicks the field goal there. I
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: don't think there's a single one. And they did it,
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: and I agreed with the decision. I agreed with it.
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: I said you should, but there should be no world
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: in which you should be doing that, but it was right.
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: It was the right call. Here's the other play. It's
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: third and nine. You're deep. You're like at your own
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: 15-yard line. You probably aren't picking up a first down.
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: What did they do? They ran a draw, and that
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: was the play where Jalen Waddell snapped his chin strap off,
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: and he's like, what is this? What are we doing?
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: That is zero confidence in your quarterback play, and that is...
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: Massively concerning. Listen, I don't care what anybody says. I
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: don't care what anybody's reaction is to how I feel
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: or you feel about.
• 3:04
  Speaker 4: A game or a win. That's all subjective. It's all
• 3:07
  Speaker 4: your opinion. How I feel and how you feel may
• 3:10
  Speaker 4: be completely different. I get it if you're a player
• 3:13
  Speaker 4: or coach, you're coming home and you're like, yeah, damn,
• 3:15
  Speaker 4: we got it. But if you're objective about it and
• 3:19
  Speaker 4: you're sitting back and just looking at what they should
• 3:22
  Speaker 4: have done versus what they did, you kidding me? They
• 3:26
  Speaker 4: were trailing in this game until Jim Harbaugh said, here,
• 3:30
  Speaker 4: take it.
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 3:32
  Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh, for some, I have no idea, guys, why
• 3:36
  Speaker 4: he decided on a day where his offensive line was
• 3:39
  Speaker 4: a bunch of rookies, let's go for it up by
• 3:42
  Speaker 4: seven in the fourth.
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 3:45
  Speaker 4: What the hell was he thinking? As soon as he
• 3:48
  Speaker 4: made that decision.
• 3:49
  Speaker 6: Moshe, I go, oh, my God.
• 3:51
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God. Whatever. Listen, the Broncos won. Here's how
• 3:55
  Speaker 4: I would describe it, Mose. You tell me. The Broncos
• 3:58
  Speaker 4: won despite their offense.
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 4:04
  Speaker 3: I find it remarkable that many times during the course
• 4:10
  Speaker 3: of an NFL season, seemingly smart football people do the
• 4:18
  Speaker 3: dumbest possible bullshit.
• 4:22
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 4:23
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 4:25
  Speaker 4: Bolshevik Revolution.
• 4:26
  Speaker 2: Bolshevik Revolution. Bolshevik Revolution.
• 4:28
  Speaker 4: The Bolshevik Revolution.
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: And they hand games to the Denver Broncos for whatever reason.
• 4:35
  Speaker 6: You're right.
• 4:35
  Speaker 3: There's some sort of, well, I'm convinced of it. Sean
• 4:40
  Speaker 3: Payton is some sort of an Obi-Wan Kenobi. And I
• 4:43
  Speaker 3: almost tweeted this out yesterday. And he does this whole,
• 4:49
  Speaker 3: you are going to go for it like an idiot.
• 4:53
  Speaker 3: You are going to stop running your best running back
• 4:56
  Speaker 3: like an Asuipe. You are going to throw picks when
• 5:01
  Speaker 3: you don't have to.
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: You've said this, Moj, and I'm going to give you
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: full credit. You've said there's a lot of luck that
• 5:10
  Speaker 2: is involved with the way that the Broncos win football
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: games because of what other teams do. My God, was
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: that on display yesterday. The amount of mistakes the Chargers
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: had to make I mean, Justin Herbert, think about this
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: for a second. Justin Herbert fumbled. He's an absolute dolt.
• 5:30
  Speaker 2: He fumbled a football, got spun around, and somehow caught
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: the ball that he fumbled going to the ground. He
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: yet again this week to close the game out through
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: an interception where the defending player, because this happened last
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: week too, Brandon Jones is just standing there. And he goes, oh. Like,
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: right in his belly. Didn't move.
• 5:53
  Speaker 4: It was fourth down. Yeah, but still.
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: You're right, Moshe. I don't know what it is. The
• 5:59
  Speaker 2: Broncos have put a hex on opposing offenses and teams
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: to be as stupid as possible late in games.
• 6:05
  Speaker 4: Hey, man.
• 6:06
  Speaker 3: They won. They're a 3-2 team. Worst possible scenario, Vic,
• 6:11
  Speaker 3: is now that they'll be through these just awful six
• 6:17
  Speaker 3: weeks of very difficult opponents, supposedly. Yesterday wasn't, obviously. It's
• 6:23
  Speaker 3: a terrible football team they played. The worst-case scenario is
• 6:26
  Speaker 3: they'll be 3-3, which is what we would have taken
• 6:30
  Speaker 3: all day and all night.
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?
• 6:32
  Speaker 3: All day and all night. But the bottom line is
• 6:36
  Speaker 3: the offense looked as bad or worse.
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: It didn't matter. It's another one of these 13.4 quarters.
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: Where they win the game. Guys, I know, Vic, I
• 6:46
  Speaker 3: know I'm going to sound surly this morning. I'm going
• 6:50
  Speaker 3: to sound a little bit.
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: Snippy.
• 6:54
  Speaker 3: This offense sucks. The quarterback sucks. The running game sucks.
• 7:02
  Speaker 3: You have players.
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: You're not utilizing it anywhere nearly the way you should be.
• 7:07
  Speaker 2: I'll admit to you, Moshe, with what you just said, Vic,
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: I came to a conclusion yesterday that I have not
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: come to in the now third year of this form
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: of the Broncos offense. I came to this conclusion. I
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: don't think Bo Nix has the goods. For the first time,
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: because even in games in which he would play poorly
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: in the past, he'd make a couple of plays and
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: I'm like, gosh, see, there it is. It's there. He's
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: got it. It's just not consistent enough. I can't point to,
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, how many plays has he made this year
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: where you've said that? We're five games in, boys, and
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: I can't think of like three plays that that Bo
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: Nix has made where I'm like, that's pretty top level.
• 7:52
  Speaker 4: So I went on that pregame show yesterday with DMACC
• 7:54
  Speaker 4: that we do.
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 7:56
  Speaker 4: And I was listening a little bit and everybody's predicting
• 7:58
  Speaker 4: 30 to 15 Broncos. Oh, they'll run away with it.
• 8:02
  Speaker 4: And I said, and I don't know why it just
• 8:05
  Speaker 4: came to me. I said, it's going to be another
• 8:06
  Speaker 4: type of a Bronco comeback game. It's going to be close.
• 8:09
  Speaker 4: It's going to be 2017. We're going to be sweating
• 8:11
  Speaker 4: it out. It's going to be the same thing we've
• 8:12
  Speaker 4: always seen. And that's what happened.
• 8:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 8:15
  Speaker 4: And the reason I said that, and the reason I
• 8:17
  Speaker 4: believe that and still believe it, is because the play
• 8:20
  Speaker 4: calling wasn't the problem. It never was the problem. Play
• 8:23
  Speaker 4: calling could be a problem, could be an issue, but
• 8:26
  Speaker 4: it's not the problem. You know the problem. The problem
• 8:30
  Speaker 4: is twofold. They can't run the ball, and the quarterback
• 8:33
  Speaker 4: right now can't throw the ball.
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Sean Payton is starting to lose a
• 8:37
  Speaker 3: little bit of patience.
• 8:39
  Speaker 4: Well, you think after the game when he says, let
• 8:42
  Speaker 4: it rip, that's a quarterback who's in his third year now,
• 8:46
  Speaker 4: and the head coach is telling.
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: Him, Throw it?
• 8:50
  Speaker 3: What do you think I've been saying for a long time?
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: He's much better when he just lets it rip. I
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: wish I could find out what's going on in his
• 8:59
  Speaker 3: brain for three quarters of football. And then what goes on,
• 9:04
  Speaker 3: you know, late in the game. It's a very, very
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: interesting dynamic as far as I'm concerned. Very interesting dynamic.
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: Moshe, you can't but to what Vic's saying, wholeheartedly agree.
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: There ain't a quarterback in the league that's in his
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: third year that the coach needs to reassure him, hey,
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: let it rip. You're a third-year QB. You want a rookie, okay?
• 9:31
  Speaker 4: I'm not asking you to go full Jameis Winston here,
• 9:33
  Speaker 4: all right? I'm not asking for that. I ain't asking
• 9:36
  Speaker 4: for the world here.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: You're right, though.
• 9:39
  Speaker 4: When you see Jalen Waddle, who's supposed to be this
• 9:42
  Speaker 4: great weapon, you've weaponized your offense, and he finishes another
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: game with two catches. And you're saying to yourself and
• 9:49
  Speaker 4: you're watching him frustrated. He's snapping his helmet off. He's
• 9:53
  Speaker 4: throwing his helmet. I mean, come on, guys.
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What are we doing?
• 10:00
  Speaker 4: The reason that Denver Broncos won that game. I'll tell
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: it to you right now. Spell it out. Has nothing
• 10:05
  Speaker 4: to do with the offense. It has to do with
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: the fact that the last four Denver possessions of the
• 10:11
  Speaker 4: game were inside San Diego territory. Thanks to the stellar
• 10:16
  Speaker 4: play of the Denver defense. Vance Joseph and the Denver
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: D minus there's two starting cornerbacks. Here's what they did
• 10:24
  Speaker 4: in order in the fourth quarter. Mims returned the punt
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: all the way to the 26. How'd that work out?
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: You missed a field goal.
• 10:33
  Speaker 4: Wide left. Next possession. The Chargers decide, hey, let's go
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: for it on fourth and one when we're up by seven.
• 10:42
  Speaker 4: And Q Robinson snuffs it out along with the rest.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: Of the front line. On their own side of the field.
• 10:47
  Speaker 8: I know.
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: When the Broncos offense can't move the ball. They are stupid, stupid,
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: stupid people.
• 10:53
  Speaker 4: So that's the second.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: Thank God they're so stupid. You know what, Vic? I
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: thank the world for idiots. I really do.
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: I praise God for bestowing this kind of idiocy on
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: other football coaches and teams and players.
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: You know what Jim Harbaugh did? He looked at the
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: Broncos and said, you fix it.
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: So- So the defense, again, hands the offense.
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: What he's referring to, Vic, is yesterday somebody hit my car.
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: Somebody hit Moser's car. A really old man hit my car. Oh,
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: your new white sports car? You fix it, and he
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: drove off.
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 11:29
  Speaker 4: Did you confront him?
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: Yes, I was out of my, I had pulled forward.
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: I was in the parking lot. I was behind him.
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: I had stopped for a second to reach behind my.
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: Was this at Ball Arena?
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: No, this was at a golf tournament.
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: Oh. And some really old guy in a gray little
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: mini SUV backed into me. And so I pulled forward
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: a little bit, and I got out of my car,
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: and I go, what's going on? And he looks at it,
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: and he goes, you fix it. And he got in
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: his car and drove off.
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: What did you do? I was stunned.
• 12:00
  Speaker 4: Did you get his license plate?
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: I didn't even think about it. I just didn't know
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: what to do.
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: And then he was gone.
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: What kind of damage to your car? Uh, he hit
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: the right rear passenger door. It's got a little bubble
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: and a crease in it.
• 12:15
  Speaker 4: The kind that's going to cost you money.
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: No matter what.
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: And he said, you fix it. See you later.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: So Jim Harbaugh, when they didn't get fourth down, he
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: just looked at the Broncos offense and said, you fix it.
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: I am really, I am really pissed today.
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: I am really pissed.
• 12:31
  Speaker 4: Respect to that old man.
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: That's gangsta.
• 12:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: That is gangsta.
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: Yep. Sure is.
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: I'm going to try that tactic next time.
• 12:38
  Speaker 7: Hey.
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: You fix it. Your problem.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: You fix it.
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: All right, so let me recap again. Fourth quarter possessions.
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: The first one that was given to them on the
• 12:47
  Speaker 4: 27-yard line, and they got nothing out of it. Not
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: a first down, not a point, nothing. The second time,
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: after a failed fourth and one attempt by the Chargers,
• 12:56
  Speaker 4: the Broncos get possession on the 41-yard line. Guess what?
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: Soon after that, they get their first first down of
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: the second half. It came with 9.55 left to play
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: in the game. I repeat, that was their first first
• 13:11
  Speaker 4: down of the second half with 9.55 to play. They
• 13:16
  Speaker 4: go on to score a touchdown and tie it up
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: at 17 apiece.
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: Third possession. We're not done. Third possession. The Broncos finally
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: force another turnover. This time, Q. Robinson recovers the fumble,
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: the one that Justin Herbert lost off his teammates back. Whatever.
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: Third straight drive that results in Prime field position for
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: the Broncos. They get a field goal out of it.
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: It's 2017.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: Fourth possession.
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: Herbert interception. Another Denver field goal. Four possessions in the
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: fourth quarter in San Diego territory.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: LA, just stop saying San Diego.
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: It's Los Angeles. I'm sorry. I'm going to call them
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: San Diego.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: Four possessions in Chargers territory. Do not come on the
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: radio today. Do not text the show. Do not even
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: think that the offense saved the day, that the offense
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: suddenly woke up, that the offense got it cooking in
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: the fourth. No, they didn't. They didn't do crap. The
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: defense was more offense than the offense. Do not tell
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: me the offense came to life. They did not.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: And they did that without Some of their best players
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: out of the football game. Three members of their secondary.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: I just don't want to be pissy. I don't want
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: to be. But how do you again win a football
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: game when you have 224 yards of total offense.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: And you're one of 12 on third down?
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: Because a smart fan understands you can do that against
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: the Chargers. You could do that against that bunch.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: How do you do it?
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: But if you do that Thursday night, you're losing by
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: 20 at home. Yeah, you're going to get rolled if
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: you do that Thursday night.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: And I'm telling you right now, the Seahawks are going
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: to be P.O.'d.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to say this, man, and I know
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: it's a different animal at home, but this is a
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: short week. I don't know how anybody in good conscience
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: can pick the Broncos to beat the Seahawks this week.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Given what we just saw from the offense, what we've
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: seen for five weeks, how could you? So, 3-0-3, 5-0-4, 0-9-2-5.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: A lot more to discuss. We get some audio from
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton, Bo Nix after the game. But something to
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: what Vic said. I want to talk about the second half.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: How the Broncos got to what they did. And the
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: credit that should be... I mean, we should be kneeling
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: at the Vance Joseph altar today. Are we even going
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: to remotely talk today about the stupidity involving the Washington Commanders? Oh,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll get there. I mean, the Commanders... I tell.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: You what, man. When you... There are so many stupid
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: things that go on on a weekly basis.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: It just, it amazes me. Well, as stupid as the
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: commanders were, the Eagles are up a point with eight
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: seconds left to go and kicking off. Yeah, so a
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: lot to get to, Sam.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: When you're 0-5, what is the message that works, you know,
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: that kind of gets through, or is there one?
• 16:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know what that message is. The Um,
• 16:20
  Speaker 8: it's just in the, yeah, the players that just fight
• 16:27
  Speaker 8: their hearts out, you know, play, uh, give it everything
• 16:30
  Speaker 8: they have. That's, that's the only way. That's the, that's
• 16:33
  Speaker 8: the best way. But, uh, yeah, that's, yeah.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Look, Hey, you're Owen five. What's the message to the team?
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: And you get one of these.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: That initial comment, just the initial phrase. It's so hard
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: for him to scrape together a sentence because I can't
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: imagine how much he's going through his mind.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Well, that team.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Well, it could.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Be worse, right?
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Bronco fans, listen, you're 3-2, baby. You're taking this. You're 3-2.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: All right? Everybody's taking this. Nobody's complaining about 3-2. The
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: complaints are reserved for the offense. We can complain about
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: the offense. But the overall picture, you're 3-2.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: The Chargers are done.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: They're smoked. They're done. That's what they are.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Guys, they're going to be 0-9. Did you hear what
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: I told you they had coming?
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: At KC.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: At the Rams. Texans at home at Baltimore.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: They're cooked. The worst possible scenario for Denver Broncos fans
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: at this point is they continue to be this bad
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: and they get the first overall pick. That would be
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: a disaster. Miami's not going to win a football game.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I don't think Tennessee is going to win a football game.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: The Chargers may win one or two football games, and
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: then they won't have the overall number one pick, but
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: there are some really bad teams in this league.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: So can I break something down, and you highlighted it, Vic,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: but I just want to say something about the second
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: half of that football game. First of all.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: First of all, I fell asleep. Listen to me.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: No, listen. Stop.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Stop.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Halftime. I laid down. I have a Nuggets game that night.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: I said, I'm just going to catch a halftime nap.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Little halftime nap.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: I woke up when it was 17-10 Chargers. And I said,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: what the hell?
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me break this down for you then. Here's
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: what you missed, Vic, because this is infuriating. First of all,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: they go into halftime. Did you guys see the graphic
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: they put up going into half?
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: No.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: The Broncos average 3.3 points per game in the first
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: half this year.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Well, they increased that average by 10 points.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: What do you do with the papers?
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: What are you shuffling?
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: You're driving me insane.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: 3.3 points per game in the first half is what
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: they average. That was when they went into halftime yesterday.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: That is with a touchdown scored the first half yesterday. Insane.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: So here's what happens. Second half, you're up 10-3. What
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: do the Chargers do? They put together a 14-play, 9.5-minute
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: touchdown drive to start the half. And so you're like, okay,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: it's 10-10 offense. The defense was just on the field
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: for nine and a half minutes. Give them a breather. Well,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: they were able to breathe for a minute and 24
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: seconds because it was a three and out.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: And what does the defense do? They came out. They
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: sucked it up big time. They pull it together and
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: they say, I still got it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: They stuffed Hampton. They stuffed Mitchell.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Five play drive, 10 yards, force a punt. Broncos get
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: the ball back. I'm like, guys. You need to give
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: your defense a break.
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: We're going to fall. First play. Fumble. Chargers offense takes
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: the field, and the first play of their drive was
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: a 42-yard run for a touchdown. Now you're down 17-10.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: And I said out loud, I go, not even the
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: defense's fault.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: He broke like three tackles. I'm like, I don't care.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: You can't ask them to do this over and over again.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: They ran four plays in a quarter, man.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Four.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I woke up on that Kamani Vidal touchdown. That's when
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I woke up. I literally awoke from my nap, and
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I said, what am I watching here? And I counted
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: six possible tackles that were missed. But you're exactly right.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: That same defense had to drop back out there, and
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: they're thinking to themselves, come.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: On, dudes.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: The offense ran four plays in a corner.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Come on, man.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: So then after that, you're down 17-10. Moj, the offense
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: needs to respond. Three and out. Okay, defense, can you please,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: please just do some... Oh, a three and out and
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: a punt return that goes all the way to the
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: 27-yard line. Now we're in business. Offense, do your job.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: three and out missed field goal. And you're just sitting
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: there like, are you kidding me? Defense need you to
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: step up again. Not only do they get a three
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: and out, they stuff them on fourth and inches. And
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: now you get the ball in plus territory again. Like
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Vance Joseph is, I am terrified, terrified because if he
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: doesn't get a head coaching job this off season, there's
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: something wrong. There's, Is anybody more deserving as a coordinator
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: of a head coaching opportunity than that man right there
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: with what he's accomplished over the last three years? It's crazy.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: My favorite thing. Did you see at the end of
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: the game when the chargers were in miracle mode, they
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: had to throw it up and the Broncos were trying
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: to put themselves in position. Sean Payton goes up and
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: says something to Vince Joseph and Joseph's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I, yeah,
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: I got you.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Hey, I got you.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. Let the adult handle things over here.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: It was so funny to me. I don't know if
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: you guys noticed that.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the other thing.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: It was so funny. You know, because part of me
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: wanted him to say, wait a minute. Are you instructing
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: me to do something with my guys? You're telling me?
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I'm the guy who does his job. You must be
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: the other guy. Or he looked at Sean Payton, or no,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton looked at Vance Joseph for an entire second
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: half and he said, you fix it. You fix it.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: He just kept saying that to him. You fix it. Now, listen,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. Like, this is the credit to Vance Joseph.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I know the opponent you played yesterday was bad.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I know that. I know that their offense is in
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: shambles as far as health. They have no offensive linemen.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: They have no Pass catchers. They got no receivers that
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: are healthy.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: They haven't had receivers. I told you this before the
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: season began. They had guys.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Falling like flies. But I want you guys to listen
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: to something. It's insane. You had no Sertan. You had
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: no Riley Moss. And at the end of the game,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: you had no Hufanga. And that's when the defense played
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: their best, was at the end of the game. Now,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: that poses a gigantic problem heading into Thursday.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Because you have this receiver that is going to be
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: coming to town. That's going to burn your butts.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Pray to every football God that exists, that Talanoa Hufanga
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: will be healthy for that game. Cause, cause Sertan and
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Moss might not be, but probably won't be. You better
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: pray that Hufanga is ready.
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: You're going to have issues. And, and I know what's
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: going to happen. You know, the defense is going to
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: have a tough night and then all of a sudden, see,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: it's the, It's not the defense, guys. It's not the defense.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: It's never been the defense. It's not. It is this
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: offense that gives the defense absolutely nothing.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: To work with.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: And the other way around is what we saw yesterday.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: The very first play of the game. So Sean Payton's
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: the play caller now. And you guys said it. You
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: said he's going to come out running the ball, which
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: he did. Very first play.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: J.K.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Dobbins' run. Did you notice what happened on that run,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: first and ten? He ran through. I thought he chose
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: the wrong hole. He had like a five yard bopper, right?
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: No, he, if he, if he absolutely, if he tries
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: the right side, Vic, he's got all kinds of yardage, but.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: He doesn't elect to do that.
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: I don't, you know, I remember the patients that he
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: used to possess at the line of scrimmage.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: And we, and we love that too.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: We thought, wow, this is really cool.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: No, I think, I think his patients might be there,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: but he doesn't have the burst anymore. Like when the
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: hole does open up, he's not quick enough to get
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: through it.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: That first carries all I needed to see the very
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: first carry of the game. And then they go three
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: and out and, No, actually, they didn't because they got
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: the third nine. My bad.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: The little Jordan Humphrey. But then after that, a five-yard penalty,
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: and that leads to a punt, right?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: The usual. Incidentally.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Jordan Humphrey.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, you just pull this guy out of the screen.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: So Gina had texted in. Gina is just, she's like, look,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: it doesn't feel like local radio because there's just so
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: much negativity. And I said to Gina, I said, Gina,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: would you prefer that we just pretend that That everything's hunky-dory?
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: He's like, no, but it just doesn't feel like, you
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: want a positive? Lil Jordan Humphrey is stashed in a
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: meat locker for.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Weeks at a time, weeks at a time, this guy.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: And then Sean Payton goes, hey, Lil Jordan, my man.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: We need you this week.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Pat Bryant's hurt.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: And he's like, I got you, coach. And little Jordan
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: comes in and he plays. Vic, you know what he is?
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: And he catches balls and he's effective. He's your mortadella sandwich,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: isn't he?
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: He is. He's just there when you need him.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: He's there. If you need something, we'll go grab the
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: mortadella sandwich.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: All right, Gio, you want a positive?
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: He's your peanut butter and jelly man. Always reliable. Hey, man,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: you might want to go.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: For Hot Pocket or Pizza Rolls or, I don't know,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: a turkey sandwich.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: He's your PB and J.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: If you just need some PB and J, Lil Jordan
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Humphrey is that.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: I'll give you some positives. And by the way, someone
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: says first play of the game was a play-action pass. No,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: it wasn't. It was a run. It was a one-yard run.
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: It was not a pass. I'll give you some positives because, yeah,
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: I think it's important to balance it out. Zach Allen, again,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: was a stud. I thought. The play of the Broncos secondary,
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: given the fact that they're missing two starting corners, extraordinary.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Extraordinary. All those guys, they played great.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: How fortunate that you have Jaday Barney and Chris Abrams-Drain
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: as your fourth and fifth cornerback option. Unbelievable.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, their safeties were great. Everybody was great. Benito
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: finally got back on the sack wagon. He got a
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: couple sacks in that game. They were great. Vance Joseph's great.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Jeremy Croshaw's great. He's great.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I've noticed something. You didn't name a single member of
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: the offense when you said that.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: No, no, I get it.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: You know what's funny? In the appetizer, I said... Oh, wait, no.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I take that back.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Evan Ingram was pretty damn good.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Ingram was okay. Quinn Miners is always a beast. I mean,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: that's always good. But I said, can you give me
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: one thing? I said this to people in the appetizer.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: One thing on offense that you like right now. Like,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: what is one thing that you think they're doing well?
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: And my answers that I got were this. That they're
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: on the same team as the defense. All of them
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: were like an amalgamation of that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: And, I mean.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: This defense, this defense, I mean, good God, this defense
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: is good.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: All right, so we go back to the old.
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: So good.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: Chicken, egg, or farmer thing. And we wonder what it was.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: They can't run the ball. They can't generate any yards
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: up the middle. It's obvious. They can't. I don't know
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: if it's the blocking scheme. I don't know if it's
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: the blockers. I don't know if it's the runners. I
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: don't know if it's all of them. They can't. They
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: can't run the ball.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Listen to me.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: Listen.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: They can't run the ball. So for everybody who says, hey,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: you got to run the ball. You got to commit
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: to it. They ran it 29 times for an average
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: of 3.7. They can't run the ball. Okay? That's number one.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: They can't do it. And they can't throw the ball. Yeah.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Two pretty important things.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Where does that leave you?
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Well, can I say something, by the way? I told
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: you at the beginning of the show, it's the first
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: time that I felt this yesterday in watching the game
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: where I'm just like, for the first time, I truly
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: had it, this feeling of, man, Bo Nix just isn't
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: good enough. Like, it's the first time that I felt that.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I just haven't seen him make a play for weeks
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: that I believe in. Now, can I also just mention
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: this as an aside? Maybe this is a bigger conversation
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: for later. I don't know if I can totally absolve
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: play calling in this. And here's why. People are going
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: to say, well, you went from Davis Webb to Sean Payton.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: It's the same playbook. They're calling the same thing. And
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: now for four years that Sean Payton has been here,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: the offense has never looked good. Even under Russell Wilson,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: it didn't look good.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Brent, did you hear Ross Tucker in that game yesterday?
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: In the second series?
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Adam Troutman's wide open.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: He's right there. Well, he's wide open.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Well, hang on. We saw that in the San Francisco
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: game too. And Sean Payton said, play calling's a problem.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: I need to take back over.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Well, what's the issue?
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Maybe he felt the voice needed to change.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Not the call, the voice.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: The offense looked worse yesterday. Yeah, it did.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: It took a step back. Maybe he felt, hey, if
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: I give it my voice, listen, man, there's no stumbling
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: around this. There's no, I'm not, I don't know if
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Bo Nix is the answer. I don't, right now, right now,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: let me ask you this.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Nobody in good faith could make that argument. The only
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: thing you could say is that he wins games. I'm like, yeah,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm giving him a $ 55 million,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: $ 60 million contract. No. I don't know if you'd do that.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't.
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: Not right now.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Not right now. You can't. Can you? Do you?
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: No. Now? Would you?
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Where's the Sean Payton cut on his quarterback?
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Do we have that? Yes.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Hang on.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Here you go. Here's what's right and what's wrong with
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Bo's game.
• 29:53
  Speaker 9: I think, you know, obviously there's a lot been said
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: about his feet. I think he's settling that down. I
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: think it's important. From a protection standpoint, early in games,
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: we provide that clean pocket so that clock doesn't get
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: juiced up.
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: A little bit.
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: I don't know what his dropback percentage was, but I
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: think it was a little less tonight. And I think
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: that when we needed it down the stretch, there were
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: some plays to be had. We got blitzed on Sutton's touchdown.
• 30:19
  Speaker 9: We were hoping to get a certain coverage, but it
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: was good because he's got a free rusher there. And
• 30:24
  Speaker 9: I think after four weeks, there's a handful of things
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: that collectively... It starts with me where it's like, all right,
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: let's focus on these details. And I think the byproduct
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: helps the cue. Obviously, the hardest thing to do in
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: this league is play that position if you're not rushing
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: the ball.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Keep going. Okay, so here's something I'll say. Moj, I
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: was watching the game yesterday. I had TV side by side.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: One was on the Detroit game. One was on the
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Broncos game. And I'm watching one team that has a
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: great offense and no defense and another team that has
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: no offense and a great defense. And then at the
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: same time, they're doing highlights. And this bothered me. Because
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Detroit's one thing they've been able to score for like
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: four straight years, one of the best offenses in the league.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: It's hard to compare.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: It's incredible.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: You know what highlights I'm watching? It's from the Vikings game.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: And they showed two plays from Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: stands in the pocket, buys time. He throws the ball
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: to the corner pylon to Justin Jefferson, who is triple covered,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: triple covered. and puts it in the bucket. Now, it's
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: a great play by Justin Jefferson, but just the fact
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: that Kyler Murray attempted that throw, I was like, hmm.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: They showed another play from Kyler Murray. They're deep in
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: their own side of the field. He's being pressured, but
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: he is dancing around the pocket. He's buying time, dancing around,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: eyes constantly downfield, and he rips one downfield to a
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: wide-open guy because he bought another two or three seconds.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Somebody got open. Where's that stuff from Bo? But here's
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: what Bo does. Bo, the second he feels any modicum
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: of pressure, bails to the right and chucks the ball
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: out of bounds.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: At this very moment, who would you rather have quarterbacking
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: your team, Kyler Murray or Bo Nix?
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: No question it's Kyler. No question. And I don't even
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: think Kyler's good. But there's no question that he is
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: playing better football.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: It is what it is. For someone on the text
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: line that said, when you can't run the ball, more
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: pressure on the quarterback. They can't run the ball. Someone says, Vic,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: you sound stupid. They average 3.7 per carry. That's a
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: first down.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: That is terrible.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Don't be stupid.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Don't be stupid.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: 3.7 yards per carry is like worst in the NFL.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: I just, stupidity, I'm not, I don't suffer stupid today.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: They can't run the ball.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but 3.7 yards per carry four times is a
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: first down. Don't be stupid.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: He can be composed and he can be cool to win.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: By the way, 3.6 yards per carry is what they
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: average on the year. That's 26 in the NFL.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: If the Broncos had lost this game, or this continues
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: the way it is right now, and the Broncos are
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: losing football games, I can assure you there will be
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: a different demeanor and a different explanation at the podium
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: when the game is over.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Most forget Sean Payton. If they were doing this, everything
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: can be hunky-dory right now because they are winning football games.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: They have been for a while. If they start to
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: lose football games because the offense can't score, there is
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: going to be a mutiny in that locker room. The
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: defense might be cool with this right now because at
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, we get to go to
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Club Dub and get the smoke machines out in the
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: locker room and we can party after the game. If
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: you start to go on a three-game losing streak and
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: the offense is putting up 13 points a game, that
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: defense is going to start killing some people in the
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: locker room.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: 5-9-7-0. Why does everyone say they can't run the ball?
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: They can run it, but then they stop running it.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: Look at the drive before the end of the first half. No, no, stop. Stop.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Stop it.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Stop yourself.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Stop yourself. They can't run the football.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: That was a good excuse last year. Last year, I
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: think they could run the football and they refused to
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: do it sometimes. They can't run, guys. They can't. They
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: haven't had a run of 20 yards yet this year.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: It's five games in.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: And you can blame whatever you want. You can blame
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: the backs, the line, the scheme, whatever. They can't run it.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: The end. You want to know how I know they
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: can't run the football? Because it's fourth and goal from
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: the one and you kicked it. How's that for an indictment?
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: How's your confidence in your run game? I don't think
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: we can pick up a yard.
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: 303-504-0925.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Ryan Harris in 20 minutes.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Stick around.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: All right, can I say one thing that I'm happy about?
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: That's a weird thing. The texture said this, and this
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: is true. He goes, I'm just tired of being mad
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: while watching the broadcast. It's like, yeah, I know. There
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: ain't a single person that's, like, happy.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: It's so funny. Our group text from my brothers, we're
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: all watching at the same time. I think we all
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: fell asleep at the same time. and we all just say,
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: how is this happening? How did they win this game? And,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: you know, it's fun that you come back and win,
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: that you figure out that this is a fourth-quarter team,
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: and that they possess that trait. That's hard to find, right?
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: The ability to keep your composure, your poise, and win
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: a game late. That's great. It doesn't make the game,
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: yesterday's game, any more exciting. That was boring.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: But it's more than boring, Vic. It's frustrating. It's wholly frustrating.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: And we can still... Look, man, we're still getting texts
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: about people saying the running game's really not that bad.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks averaged 3.8 yards per carry. The Seahawks aren't
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: happy with their run game either.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Guys.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Like, this isn't hard, guys. There are teams that can
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: win without running the football effectively. Like, Cincinnati. I think
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: people look at Cincinnati and like, oh, that's a good offense.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: They have Jamar Chase and T. Higgins and Joe Burrow.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: They can't run the football, and they almost lost to
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Miami yesterday because of it.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: I don't understand you people who say... Well, if they
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: show the commitment to the run game. Brett, Mosher, how
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: many times did the Broncos run the ball yesterday?
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Well, they had a drive where they ran it like
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: nine times.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: They ran it 29 times. How many times did the
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Broncos run the ball yesterday? They ran it 27 times.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: No, they threw it 27 times. I'm sorry.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Threw it 27 times. So they ran it more times
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: than they threw it. It's the first time in a
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: while that they've done that. It might be the first
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: time since I can't remember.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: The last time. I think it was last December.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: They ran the ball more times than they threw the ball.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: So to say that they don't commit to the run,
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: I just gave you the numbers. They committed to the run.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: And guess what? They churned out fewer yards than the
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: Chargers did.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: They can't run the ball. Can't do it. Now, we're
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: going to talk to Ryan Harris here. What time is
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Ryan coming up? 15 minutes.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 15 minutes.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: A former lineman. He watches the trenches. Let's be honest.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Are you watching the trenches like he is?
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: No. I'll say this.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: So Vic, there is something to the idea, whatever you
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: think of the running backs we have here. And look,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I think that JK Dobbins is very obviously lost a step.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't think you're, you're good enough in
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: the running back room. I'll also say this. I don't
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: see a lot of holes at the line of scrimmage, man.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I see a lot of contact right there at the
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. I don't see a lot of push.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Did you hear the frustration in Quinn Miner's voice yesterday?
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: I heard a couple interviews with Quinn Miner's, and he
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: was asked point blank, what is going on at the
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: point of attack? And he says, we just have to
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: be better.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: We have to be better. I don't know what that means.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Ask Ryan Harris what that means, being better. Are they
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: not practicing it enough? I don't know. I have no idea.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: You know, people are saying now, I got a text.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: I think Bo's ankle is bothering him. Well, I don't
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: know what to do about that.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I will say this, Vic. There was a play, I
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: think it was on his fumble. He's taking off. He's
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: trying to find some space. And a guy's wrapping him
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: up near his ankles. And they showed a slow-mo replay
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: of it. He was very aware of where he was
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: being tackled. You can tell. He was trying to get
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: his feet up and out of that. Like, you can
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: tell that's in his head.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Well, he's been there.
• 38:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: But that doesn't explain the footwork and not seeing the field.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I'm not on board with that.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think it's everything.
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: No.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I get it when you're running the ball, but when
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: you're in the pocket and you're just not seeing, you're
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: not processing the field, that's not an injury thing. That's
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: a process thing.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: It was interesting to me to see the frustration from
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Jalen Waddell, one of the very newest Denver Broncos, a
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: guy who's not been around here for, the last three
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: years of this offense, two-plus years of this offense. And
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: it was very interesting to see his reaction, his frustration,
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: in a win! I mean, and they ended up winning
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: the football game, you know what I mean? Damian Harris,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: the cuts are on your board, Brett. Nelly put them
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: on there. In that CBS online thing yesterday, talking about
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: the Broncos and talking about really not utilizing.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Or don't have the ability to utilize a weapon that
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: they made a big play for and brought in in
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: the offseason, if we could play that.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Here's the answer.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Get the ball to Jalen Waddell.
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: Get the ball to Jalen Waddell, your most explosive player
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: on offense.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: And just see what happens.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: He only had two touches today. What did they give
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: up to go get Jalen Waddell?
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: A first.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: A first.
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: For two catches, and we've talked about all season long,
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: why are they not getting Jalen Waddell the football? There
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: was one game where they force-fed him the ball, and
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: look what happened.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: He was explosive. He was dynamic. He unlocked this offense.
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: He makes Bo Nix look better than Bo Nix might
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: actually be. But my point is, when you have a
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: feature player on offense, somebody that you are willing to
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: give up a first-round pick for, you have got to
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: find ways to force-feed them the ball, especially when your
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: offense is as stuck in the mud as Denver's is
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: at this current point in time.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Everybody sees it. Everybody knows it. So for those of
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: you who say, listen.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: He also has to catch it when he's open.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Well, that too.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Good point.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Good point.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: He's had a big case of the dropsies.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: But everybody sees it.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: This is not something that we're making up. This is
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: not something. But you know what's amazing to me, Vic?
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: The only analogy I can really think of is, hey, man,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: you can't have 8 billion tuna boats out there in
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: the ocean and catch all the tuna because there'll be
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: no tuna left.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Not sustainable, right?
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: It's not sustainable. Yet, yet, they say, watch me.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: And the 8 million boats go back out into the ocean,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: and there's tuna there.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what's funny. How is there tuna? How does
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: the tuna keep showing up?
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: It's like you cut every tree in the forest, and
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: then the next week, all the trees have grown back.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You're like, that just can't keep happening.
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: It's funny.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: It's like... It's insane.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: It's insane.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: We've had separate conversations of this. Just listen for a second.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: They need to get the running game going. They need
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: to get the ball to Jalen Waddle.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: No, they don't.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Why isn't Corlin Sutton being targeted more? When are they
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: going to get a tight end involved in their offense?
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: At some point, you're pointing to every single position saying,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: why can't we get X, Y, or Z going? And
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I think the result is the quarterback's playing really bad.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, guys, it's as simple as that. The quarterback
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: play is just bad right now. And you're able to
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: get away with it because you're winning football games and
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: the defense starts your last four drives inside the 50-yard
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: line and plus territory. Makes it easy for you.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Brett, Corlin Sutton has 11 catches through five games.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: He wasn't targeted yesterday until the fourth quarter.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: I understand the Jalen Waddell desire. I do. But same
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: goes for Cortland Sutton. 11 catches on the season.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: 11.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah. What do you want me to do with that?
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: I don't, Vic. I don't know what to do with it.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Jackson Smith in Jigba? Coming into town on Thursday night.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: How many catches do you think he.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Has this year?
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Jackson Smith, Nagujuba.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: That guy, too.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: I think he already has, what, he has seven touchdowns already?
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: He has seven touchdowns already.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: He's got 37 catches.
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: 37.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Chris Olave. Is he a stud? Pretty good. Saints
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: aren't playing good football, but he's a stud, is he not?
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: He's got 39. CeeDee Lamb's got 39. Yeah.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: They're good players, and you get the ball to your
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: good players. But can I have, before we get to
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Ryan Harris, can I play one thing that made us
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: happy yesterday? Can I do that?
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Please. Yeah.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: It made me immensely happy.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Here's our boy, Ian Eagle, coming through in the clutch.
• 43:09
  Speaker 10: And it is Tui Polotu, the pro bowler. His cousin's
• 43:13
  Speaker 10: on the other team, Denver. We had a chance to
• 43:16
  Speaker 10: talk to both he and Hufunga. They both said, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 43:20
  Speaker 10: my favorite concert, but I think they were saying it
• 43:22
  Speaker 10: for effect.
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they've got.
• 43:24
  Speaker 10: Deep connections, USC and even beyond. And you can just
• 43:31
  Speaker 10: feel the love and respect.
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: Within that family. Bufanga is older. He said that Thule
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: is a real good kid.
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: It's quite a celebration for the family.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Incredible.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: So hang on, Nelly.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Hang on. Hang on.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Go back to it. I can tell. Before he said
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: a good kid, there's a pause. And he's thinking to himself,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: am I going to do the voice or not?
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: That's what it felt like.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: He wanted to be like, am I going to do this?
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: He's a good kid. He was thinking about doing it
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: and decided against it. Listen again.
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: Bufanga is older. He said that. Tully is a real
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: good kid.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: There was a slight hesitation there, Vic, because he sort
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: of sized up the moment.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: So to those who missed it on Friday, we had
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: Ian Eagle on the show, and we asked him, we
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: begged him, we pleaded, hey, please throw in good kid
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: in the East Coast judge's accent.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: He's a good kid.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: He agreed to say good kid, and that was him
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: on Friday, but he didn't do it with the number,
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: with the accent, because I think he's just more professional
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: than we are.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, of course he is. But shout out to Ian Eagle,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: friend of the program, infiltrating the RIT. He did it
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: so smoothly, I didn't even notice the first go. Somebody
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: tweeted it at me, and I was like, oh, yeah,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: he did drop.
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: It in there.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: So anyway, a lot more to discuss. This man will
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: know a lot about what the situation is and maybe
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: how to get it fixed. It is Ryan Harris who
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: joins us next.
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: He said that Tooley is a real good kid.