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Frankie Grande: The Best Big Brother · Untraditionally Lala

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Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous, It's Lala Kent. Welcome to Untraditionally, Lala. Hey, babes,
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Speaker 1: it's La La Kent, Welcome back to Untraditionally Lala. I
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Speaker 1: am so excited to have Frankie Grande on this podcast.
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Speaker 1: You have no idea. I've been obsessed with him for
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Speaker 1: quite some time, and the way that we met was
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Speaker 1: we did a film together and I was completely starstruck.
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Speaker 1: It's actually the same film that David Arquette spoke about
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Speaker 1: me being a total bitch on set, and I had
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Speaker 1: to call him out on socials to be like, could
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Speaker 1: you maybe take into consideration that I'm around, I don't
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Speaker 1: know you, Frankie Grande, Misha Barton, and maybe I was
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Speaker 1: a little intimidated. Can we maybe take a step back. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: Frankie was freaking fantastic on that movie, and I'm excited
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Speaker 1: to deep dive into him and his life and sobriety.
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Speaker 1: You guys know Frankie Grande as an actor, a singer,
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Speaker 1: a dancer, a producer, television personality. He's also the brother
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Speaker 1: of Ariana Grande. So let's give the warmest of welcomes
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Speaker 1: to Frankie motherfucking Grande.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to La La Can Show.
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Speaker 1: Oh you are just everything.
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Speaker 3: I miss you so much. I can't believe this is happening.
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Speaker 1: By the way, i just feel like I know you
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Speaker 1: so well from the time that we met and bonded
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Speaker 1: on the set of Spree and just watching your socials.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, we're so deeply connected. Am I a psychopath
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Speaker 1: for thinking that?
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Speaker 2: No, not at all. I feel exactly the same way.
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Speaker 3: We're also thrust into that environment in such a crazy way,
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Speaker 3: Like it was like, hey, have fun, You're locked in
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Speaker 3: a car together.
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Speaker 1: With a murderer I know, and Frankie I was so
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Speaker 1: intimidated by. I like, was this girl from Utah who
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Speaker 1: just like happened to be on a reality TV show?
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Speaker 1: And then I'm put into a car with like these
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Speaker 1: very talented, well rounded actors and I'm like, I have
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Speaker 1: no it's the first time ever I've struggled with Imposter syndrome.
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, well I have struggled with a Boster
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Speaker 3: syndrome myself. So when you say that, I'm like, oh, okay,
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Speaker 3: something we can talk about.
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Speaker 1: You look amazing. I'm so grateful that you're taking time
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Speaker 1: for me.
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Speaker 2: Are you kidding? I'm so excited. Stop it. We're friends
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Speaker 2: and also I'm thrilled.
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Speaker 1: Thank you okay, so so much for having me of
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Speaker 1: course anytime. Okay, are we all glammed up just for
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Speaker 1: the day or are we like in rehearsal mode just.
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Speaker 2: For you baby?
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Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna go see my friend perform at Carnegie
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Speaker 3: Hall after this, so it's like, you know what, let's
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Speaker 3: just like, you know, do a too, fer.
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Speaker 1: I love this for you. Okay, so you're you're currently
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Speaker 1: on Broadway right now.
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Speaker 3: So no, I just closed Rocky Horror last night, which
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Speaker 3: is why I have no voice because I've been screaming
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Speaker 3: and in the final show, I just let it all go.
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Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I'm going my last
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Speaker 3: show for a second, I'm just gonna sing. And then
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Speaker 3: I cried after with the cast during our final bow
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Speaker 3: and just got home last night.
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Speaker 2: So I'm a little under but I am so excited
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Speaker 2: to be here.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think your voice is very sexy. Let me
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Speaker 1: ask you, so, do you when you start you said
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Speaker 1: it's your third year that you've done this. Yeah, before
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Speaker 1: every show, do you get nervous and go, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 1: what if it doesn't go the way I think it's
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Speaker 1: gonna go.
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Speaker 2: So in no, I'm very much about I like when.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't go the way we think it's gonna go.
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Speaker 3: Like I'm like a very on your feet kind of performer,
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Speaker 3: Like I'm a host as well, So like anything that happens,
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Speaker 3: like I'm just like, let me volley, let me play
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Speaker 3: on it. Like there was like one one day recently
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Speaker 3: where I drop a girl and the sound effect actually
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Speaker 3: of her hitting the floor happened before I dropped her, okay,
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Speaker 3: And then I dropped her and then I was like, wow,
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Speaker 3: I actually sounded like you hit the deck before you
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Speaker 3: hit the deck.
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Speaker 2: And then the audience just like lost their mind and
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Speaker 2: like started laughing.
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Speaker 3: So like things like that I love because it just
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Speaker 3: becomes It's what makes live theater so fun.
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Speaker 1: Did you grow up in the theater?
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Speaker 3: So I started when I was in fifth grade. My
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Speaker 3: very first show I did was Bye by Bertie Okay,
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Speaker 3: and so I just my mother also started taking me
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Speaker 3: two Broadway shows and I was like eight years old.
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Speaker 3: So I'd seen like Phantom of the Opper ten times
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Speaker 3: by the time I was ten years old. And you know,
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Speaker 3: I saw a Little Shop of Horrors at eight and
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Speaker 3: it was just like I was like.
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Speaker 2: Wow, this is so magical and I want to do
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Speaker 2: that one day.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, in my DNA was your mom in the arts?
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Speaker 3: Oh my mom is no, she's a ceo girl. She's
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Speaker 3: got like companies what wazoo and she but she loves
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Speaker 3: art and she loved exposing her children to art. So
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Speaker 3: like took me obviously when I was a very little kid.
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Speaker 3: And then as soon as Ariana was born, we were
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Speaker 3: all in the in the you know, going to Broadway
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Speaker 3: shows to together immediately, like and then ari got to
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Speaker 3: watch me on Broadway. You know, she was twelve years old.
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Speaker 3: It was when I joined mom and Mia. So it
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Speaker 3: was like, you know, it's like, yeah.
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Speaker 1: What an incredible experience to be artists. Right, you were
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Speaker 1: destined for greatness. What's the age difference between you and Ariana?
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Speaker 2: Ten long years?
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Speaker 1: Ten long years? And is it just the two of
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Speaker 1: you or do you have other siblings?
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Speaker 2: Oh?
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Speaker 3: Just well, so I have a half brother, James, with
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Speaker 3: my dad and my stepmom. He's wonderful and yeah, so
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Speaker 3: it's just our little our little family.
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Speaker 1: I love that every time I think of you, like
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Speaker 1: you just embody everything that I that I want this
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Speaker 1: world to be oh, just very kind. Well I'm not
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Speaker 1: that kind actually, Well it depends on who you ask.
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Speaker 1: Some people think I'm wonderful. Some people think I'm a
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Speaker 1: giant cunt.
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Speaker 2: I love that though.
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Speaker 3: But because you can't be everything to everyone, you know
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, because then you're not genuine. Right now,
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Speaker 3: you've got to kiss some fucking people off, especially like
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Speaker 3: today in this political environment, it's like you if you're
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Speaker 3: like not pissing someone off, then what the fuck are
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Speaker 3: you doing?
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Speaker 1: And you know what, I You can't please everybody, and
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Speaker 1: I don't want to connect with everybody because then we
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Speaker 1: have a massive problem. And I don't know who I am.
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Speaker 1: So there's a ten year age difference when when you
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Speaker 1: got into this environment where you're like on Broadway and anything.
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Speaker 1: You don't want to talk about Frankie, you just tell me.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: What I do know is that the two of us
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Speaker 1: share sobriety. Yeah right, and you've got eight years, Yes
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Speaker 1: I do, Okay, I just hit seven years. I want
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Speaker 1: to say last.
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Speaker 3: Week, happy birthday, Thank you, my love.
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Speaker 1: So I want to know what was what was that
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Speaker 1: moment of you were like, oh, I'm really digging the drink.
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Speaker 1: Or whatever your choice was. I found that being in
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Speaker 1: entertainment and you obviously possess talent, and I'm in reality TV,
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Speaker 1: but I noticed that it was like, oh, we're having
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Speaker 1: drinks whether it's nine in the morning or nine o'clock
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Speaker 1: at night, and it just became my norm. When did
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Speaker 1: it become your norm?
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Speaker 3: I think, well, So I got sober to like with
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Speaker 3: a sober coach two years before I went on Big
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Speaker 3: Brother so and because it was a challenge for my
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Speaker 3: therapist to see if I could do ninety days clean.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, of course I can, that's so easy.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't make it one day clean.
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Speaker 3: So I hired a sober coach and they stared at
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Speaker 3: me for ninety days and I did my ninety days clean,
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Speaker 3: and at the end I was like work, See that
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Speaker 3: wasn't that wasn't difficult at all. Meanwhile, I had to
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Speaker 3: pay a woman thousands of dollars stare at me and
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Speaker 3: just to get me to not drink, so and I
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Speaker 3: didn't learn shit. And then I was like, you know what,
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna like have one drink this month, and then
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Speaker 3: I was gonna have two drinks this month, and then
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Speaker 3: it was one drink a week, and then it was
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Speaker 3: one drink a night, and then it was every night again,
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Speaker 3: and it.
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Speaker 2: Was just wasted. Was wasted.
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Speaker 3: So I think when I realized that I had gotten
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Speaker 3: back into the swing of things so easily after paying
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Speaker 3: that woman for ninety days, I was like, oh shit, I.
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Speaker 2: Think I have a problem.
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Speaker 3: And then when I got the call to be on
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Speaker 3: Big Brother, I hired her again two weeks out from
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Speaker 3: going into moving into the house, because I knew that
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Speaker 3: if I went into that house and had to detox
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Speaker 3: on live television, I would be a fucking disaster. And
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Speaker 3: so I was smart enough to know, you're an addict,
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Speaker 3: you're an alcoholic. Hire that bitch, detox for two weeks,
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Speaker 3: go into the house. And so I left the Big
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Speaker 3: Brother experience over four months sober and clean, and I
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Speaker 3: was like, this is great, you know, like I'm great,
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Speaker 3: I'm so perfect, I'm ready. And then fucking after party, right,
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Speaker 3: you're standing there and you're with your fucking after Big Brother,
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Speaker 3: I'm out.
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Speaker 2: I didn't drink that night.
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Speaker 3: I was so proud of myself. Went to the after party,
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Speaker 3: and then you know, someone something happened. Somebody said some
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Speaker 3: shit about I don't know, tweet about fucking on Instagram
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Speaker 3: whatever the fuck it was, and there was a drink
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Speaker 3: and somebody was like, do you want to sit? Then
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Speaker 3: I was like yep, And then forty three seconds later
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Speaker 3: calling a dealer and back to the races and harder
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Speaker 3: than ever because I had just gotten off that experience,
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Speaker 3: which you know, reality TV is such a trigger.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it's a really tough environment to be in.
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Speaker 3: You know, you joke about you know, not having talent
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Speaker 3: or whatever, but but reality TV I have found doing
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Speaker 3: both things takes a skill set to survive. That is
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Speaker 3: really difficult in demanding on your psyche, on your body,
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Speaker 3: and on your humanity, especially with someone who's stayings sober.
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Speaker 2: So don't underplay it.
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Speaker 3: You know you're you are an incredible person to be
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Speaker 3: able to exist in that world and be successful over
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Speaker 3: and over again.
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Speaker 2: It's crazy.
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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you saying that, because you know, I
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Speaker 1: have very self deprecating humor. But when it really comes
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Speaker 1: down to it, I look at reality TV as an
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Speaker 1: art and not everybody can do it, and not everybody can,
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Speaker 1: you know, go on and be authentically themselves and be interesting,
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Speaker 1: but it is I don't know, if you're in the
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Speaker 1: program or not. You don't have to disclose that I
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Speaker 1: am in the program, and I've noticed what's really hard,
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Speaker 1: and you know, honestly, my way to quote unquote success
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Speaker 1: in this environment is to be able to separate reality
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Speaker 1: from reality. Because if I don't do that, you know,
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Speaker 1: everything that I learn in my program and do with
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Speaker 1: my sponsor, it really when I when I step into
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Speaker 1: you know, reality television world, although very much real life,
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Speaker 1: it goes against everything that I learn in my program
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Speaker 1: for sure. So that is it does take you're playing
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Speaker 1: a character. It's survival. It truly is survival. And I
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Speaker 1: think that's a huge reason why I love la La
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Speaker 1: Kent so much, because Lauren from Utah that you know,
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Speaker 1: was very insecure and impressionable and didn't quite know where
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Speaker 1: she fit in. She would be eaten alive in this world.
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Speaker 1: And because you've done both, you know where you're on
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Speaker 1: stage playing an actual character, but then going into Big
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Speaker 1: Brother and you know that that's a game show. It's
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Speaker 1: basically how how can you move to to survive? Right?
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Speaker 2: Yes, And it's a.
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Speaker 3: And you have to lie, and you have to manipulate,
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Speaker 3: and you have to cheat, you have to steal and
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Speaker 3: I'm not supposed to do that anymore's.
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Speaker 1: Supposed to do that, And now you're doing it for
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Speaker 1: the entertainment.
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Speaker 2: Yes of others of the masses.
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Speaker 1: It is a mind fuck when you when you were
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Speaker 1: doing Big Brother, did you notice a different level of
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Speaker 1: fandom that came with that show?
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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 3: And Big Brother fans are absolutely wonderful and absolutely horrible
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Speaker 3: at the same time. You know, like they are very passionate,
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Speaker 3: and if they love you, they love you, and if
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Speaker 3: they hate you, they hate you, right, And it's like, oh,
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Speaker 3: holy shit, I had no idea I was so hated
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Speaker 3: by so many people. And it's like, you know, yeah,
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Speaker 3: only I would say, like maybe thirty percent of the
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Speaker 3: viewers really hated me, But that's thirty percent of eight
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Speaker 3: nine million people. So it's like that's a big number.
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Speaker 3: And you see that shit and you start to ignore
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Speaker 3: all the love it the love, and you only focus
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Speaker 3: on the hate because that's how human beings are wired, right,
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Speaker 3: Like it's like fire Hume, remember fire hot, don't do
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Speaker 3: that again, and so like, ouch, that tweet hurt me.
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Speaker 3: That's all I think about. It doesn't matter that there
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Speaker 3: were eight thousand people that said I love you and
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Speaker 3: you're so fabulous. I'm like that, but that one person
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Speaker 3: called me if and that's it. I'm done, you know, right?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: How do you handle the negativity in the comments section?
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Speaker 1: Have you learned to shut it out?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: I've learned to basically stay out of the comments. I
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Speaker 3: you know, Instagram is a really safe place for me.
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Speaker 3: I've cultivated a lovely audience there and I've got all
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Speaker 3: my words blocked and all that stuff, so I can
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Speaker 3: like go on and it's fine. I don't spend too
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Speaker 3: much time in the comments on X. I don't spend
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Speaker 3: too much time in the comments on TikTok. So you know,
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Speaker 3: if something is great, I have a team.
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Speaker 2: I have a social media team. I'll ask them. I'll
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Speaker 2: be like, hey, how's it going. Should I go into
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Speaker 2: the comments?
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Speaker 3: And they'll be like, yup, totally, you're good, or like
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Speaker 3: they'll literally be like, nah, there's some bullshit in there.
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Speaker 3: You don't need to worry about some homophobic discourse. And
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Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, cool you.
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Speaker 1: Oh I love that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And like the one, you know, the big thing, like
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Speaker 3: when I performed on Jimmy fallon this year, it really
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Speaker 3: uh sparked a lot of controversy and hate because I
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Speaker 3: was so so gay and proud. You know, I started
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Speaker 3: it in bed with two men and harnesses, and you know,
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Speaker 3: because it was fallin I didn't think it would be
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Speaker 3: an issue, but I get that then like fallen posts
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Speaker 3: on the Internet and then you know, like moms against
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Speaker 3: American blubba a fifty thing whatever. Who the fuck else
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Speaker 3: will like reshare it and be like this is on television,
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Speaker 3: and then you know, Republicans are up in arms. So
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Speaker 3: I did enjoy that discourse because it was actually something
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Speaker 3: that I was passionate about my art, and watching it
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Speaker 3: be challenging for so many people on Pride in New
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Speaker 3: York City made me happy and proud totally while I'm
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Speaker 3: actually fucking doing something with this opportunity to I have
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Speaker 3: been given to perform on Fallon and I didn't just
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Speaker 3: go stand there in like with a fucking microphone and
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Speaker 3: like a cool and be like you know, a fucking
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Speaker 3: you know, safe performance on Pride. I'm like, no, I'm
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Speaker 3: gonna be franky, I'm gonna be a big homosexual, and
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna start it in bed with two men, Like fuck.
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Speaker 1: You right, he's here, he's gay, yeah, good. It is
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Speaker 1: wild because I come I come from Salt Lake City, Utah,
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Speaker 1: and maybe I just came from a more liberal family
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Speaker 1: out there, but even the way that I go about
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Speaker 1: my life and you know, uh, my youngest was conceived
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Speaker 1: via donor, which had people up in arms. But you
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Speaker 1: really forget the world that we live in when you
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Speaker 1: when you travel between two places like Los Angeles and
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Speaker 1: New York that are very open and different, is just
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Speaker 1: you know, it's inspiring and it's embraced. And then you
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Speaker 1: post on social media and you remember that other people
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Speaker 1: exist in the world that that are not like you,
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Speaker 1: and it is a huge wake up call to like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm seeing things through a different lens because I've been
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Speaker 1: in my LA bubble or my New York bubble where
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Speaker 1: everyone thinks I'm fabulous and they love that I got
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Speaker 1: a donor and they you know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, and they're like, oh my god, great, are
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Speaker 3: you also vegan?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Right, are you giving your baby vegan breast milk like work?
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Speaker 3: And then you're like post it on social media and
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Speaker 3: they're like.
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Speaker 1: Yeap, feed your child?
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Speaker 2: What the fuck?
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Speaker 1: What the fuck? It's a lot. You recently got married
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Speaker 1: within the last few years, right.
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Speaker 3: Yes, we got married. You just reminded me I have
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Speaker 3: to approve my repair and my wedding ring. I'm wearing
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Speaker 3: my wedding band right now. Yes, and yeah, it's wonderful.
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Speaker 3: It's really wonderful. I'm on his setup right now. I
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Speaker 3: got his little name in the corner. I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 3: my husband, I have a husband.
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Speaker 1: You have a husband. I don't have a husband. Did
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Speaker 1: it change the way you look at him once you
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Speaker 1: guys got married.
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Speaker 3: Yes, because there was a little bit more stability in
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Speaker 3: our life and our relationship. And it's like, you know,
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Speaker 3: we spend a lot of time apart because of my
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Speaker 3: career in my life.
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Speaker 2: Right, like I am flying.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be on a plane basically every four days
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Speaker 3: for the next two months maybe, and it's just the
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Speaker 3: way that it is. But like our relationship survives that
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Speaker 3: now because we made this commitment to each other. And
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Speaker 3: it's like, you know, I'm really grateful and I'm so
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Speaker 3: grateful to him because he does have the harder, the
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Speaker 3: hardest a job, right.
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Speaker 2: Because like he is like kind of the at home husband.
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Speaker 3: He takes care of the dog, he stays around, he
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Speaker 3: goes to the gym, he looks hot as fuck, like,
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Speaker 3: you know, like he's got his things that he needs
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Speaker 3: to do handy. But I'm when but but he gets
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Speaker 3: a little lonely because you know, my life is so
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Speaker 3: crazy right when I am on the road, I barely
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Speaker 3: have time to miss him, let alone drink water, you
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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: So it's very different.
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Speaker 3: And so he's We've been doing really well, but there
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Speaker 3: is something about like just that commitment of marriage to
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Speaker 3: be like, honey, I know this next six weeks are
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Speaker 3: going to be fucking insane.
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Speaker 2: But then come Christmas, like, I.
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Speaker 3: Am yours for two weeks and it's me and you
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Speaker 3: and a fireplace and a dog, so like, let's just
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Speaker 3: get there. And it's like, you know, if it was
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Speaker 3: a boyfriend, it's a different it's a different feeling. You know,
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Speaker 3: it's kind of like, oh, well, why the fuck am
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Speaker 3: I sitting alone in the house?
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Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 1: Right? The stakes are much higher now, Yeah, you have
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Speaker 1: something to really put thought into and fight for.
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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly do you two talk.
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Speaker 1: About having kids? Do you want children?
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Speaker 2: We've talked about it several times.
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Speaker 3: When we go back and forth, I think, you know,
18:49
Speaker 3: I'm still in like a pretty substantial growth phase, I
18:54
Speaker 3: think in my career. So like where I'm where I'm
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Speaker 3: trying to get to, I haven't gotten to yet. Happy
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Speaker 3: where I am, we're very content, but I think if
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Speaker 3: a child were to enter into the picture, it would
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be able to do the gigs and the
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Speaker 3: jobs that I am currently pursuing, right and so, and
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Speaker 3: also financially, like I just want to be in a
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Speaker 3: better place. So we talk about it, you know, and
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Speaker 3: we haven't made a decision yet. You know, I'm forty two,
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Speaker 3: but like you know the men, he's thirty three, so
19:23
Speaker 3: you know, we've.
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Speaker 2: Still got some time.
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Speaker 1: You have plenty of time.
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Speaker 3: I can be like a cool old dad, you know,
19:29
Speaker 3: like I think Robert de Niro just had a son,
19:31
Speaker 3: like yesterday.
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Speaker 1: The age and I used to think this was so cheesy,
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Speaker 1: like ag nothing but a number, And now as I'm
19:38
Speaker 1: getting older, I'm like it truly is the vibe and
19:41
Speaker 1: the energy and like what the soul is like? Right,
19:43
Speaker 1: And you've got a very just like you've just got
19:46
Speaker 1: this this youthfulness to you. You've got plenty of time.
19:49
Speaker 1: Your husband is young. What I do want to ask you, though,
19:52
Speaker 1: is because they're when you're an entertainer, you always say
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Speaker 1: not you, but just my In general, what I have
20:01
Speaker 1: found is when I ask people do you want kids?
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Speaker 1: And when people would ask me even it was like,
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Speaker 1: I haven't accomplished what I want to accomplish. Yeah, But
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Speaker 1: then once you do.
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Speaker 2: You want more, right, it doesn't end.
20:16
Speaker 1: It doesn't end.
20:17
Speaker 2: No, you get the.
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Speaker 3: Tony, you want the Oscar, you want the Grammy, you
20:20
Speaker 3: want the fucking whatever, Emmy.
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Speaker 1: We just crave the next goal and what we're going
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Speaker 1: to reach next. And I saw this thing on Instagram
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Speaker 1: the other day where it said being ready is not
20:34
Speaker 1: not a feeling, it's a decision. Yeah, And I was like,
20:38
Speaker 1: why is my mind so fucking blown right now? Holy shit?
20:42
Speaker 1: So I wonder I guess my question.
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Speaker 2: Is do you I'm ready?
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Speaker 1: Will you like, will you ever accomplish what you want
20:49
Speaker 1: to so that you can say like I think now
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Speaker 1: I'm ready, Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And I will go back and not amend but clarify
20:55
Speaker 3: like I have accomplished what I want to, which is
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Speaker 3: like being happy, comfortable and having my family.
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Speaker 2: So like, you know, I'm so grateful for where I
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Speaker 2: am right now.
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Speaker 3: I just mean, like, my schedule is fucking nuts so,
21:08
Speaker 3: but I've seen like my mother, for example, the the
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Speaker 3: SHEEO of all her companies, Like was she ready when
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Speaker 3: she had me aied like twenty whatever, one, two, three,
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Speaker 3: four whatever? It was, No, absolutely not, but she just
21:21
Speaker 3: you know, had her son. And then I was in
21:23
Speaker 3: the boardroom with her, you know, like I was in
21:25
Speaker 3: a little Armani suit, like in standing in front of
21:28
Speaker 3: like a fleet of admirals in the Navy because she
21:30
Speaker 3: makes communication equipments for the Navy.
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Speaker 2: Like it's like it's just like it just that's the
21:34
Speaker 2: way it went, and it was such fun.
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Speaker 1: Badass.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a fucking badass. And she's like, you know,
21:40
Speaker 3: the woman.
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Speaker 2: In the room.
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Speaker 3: Oh she's still the only woman in the room when
21:45
Speaker 3: she went to all of those things, any sort of
21:47
Speaker 3: trade show or business meeting, it's only woman.
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Speaker 2: So she's badass. But it's like, yeah, no, I guess.
21:53
Speaker 3: So if you're saying, but I guess that's the luxury
21:56
Speaker 3: of being a gay man is like we're not going
21:58
Speaker 3: to accidentally get pregnant. Keep trying, but uh, nobody doesn't stick,
22:03
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, right, So, uh, I guess
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Speaker 3: that's the luxury of being gay is like we really
22:08
Speaker 3: really don't we really do get to just like definitely
22:12
Speaker 3: think about this decision very hard.
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Speaker 2: Right, no accidental like oops, I'm pregnant. What are you
22:17
Speaker 2: doing now? You know It's like, no, that's not gonna happen.
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Speaker 1: I'm so dead. I love this. Are you Are you
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Speaker 1: close with with your siblings? Like, do you guys get
22:27
Speaker 1: together and see each other or is it so your
22:29
Speaker 1: schedules are so chaotic that it's like a well thought
22:32
Speaker 1: out get together.
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Speaker 3: My sister was literally just said goodbye as I sat
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Speaker 3: were My sister she was literally just here as I
22:40
Speaker 3: as I sat down, she was like, have a good podcast.
22:42
Speaker 3: Like it's like we're very very close. We see each
22:45
Speaker 3: other all the time, and you know, her life and
22:50
Speaker 3: my life are just so crazy busy, but we always
22:53
Speaker 3: find times like even on this last contract, yeah that
22:55
Speaker 3: I was just doing like every Sunday night we had
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Speaker 3: dinner together. I came home, even if I got home
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Speaker 3: at like nine o'clock or whatever, Like I went straight
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Speaker 3: to her apartment. We had dinner together, and it was
23:04
Speaker 3: just like it's just so important for me to have
23:07
Speaker 3: those moments of connection with her, especially because we are
23:11
Speaker 3: so close and because our lives are so crazy, right,
23:14
Speaker 3: and how important family.
23:16
Speaker 2: Is to both of us.
23:18
Speaker 3: So we just spent all the time together mom my
23:20
Speaker 3: mom was at the show with my husband and my
23:22
Speaker 3: dog every weekend. So wow, I've also like been very
23:26
Speaker 3: connected and great. And then yeah, they're all, you know,
23:29
Speaker 3: my husband and my mom are outside waiting to play
23:31
Speaker 3: a Lego party right now before I you know, go
23:34
Speaker 3: to go see my friend in the show later.
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Speaker 2: So it's like we're very we're very close to family.
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Speaker 1: Can I tell you that makes me so happy, Frankie,
23:41
Speaker 1: because I think what you said just resonated with me
23:44
Speaker 1: of like I've accomplished what I what I want. And
23:47
Speaker 1: I think when you're in this line of work, any
23:50
Speaker 1: line of work, like you have your goals, but ultimately
23:53
Speaker 1: once you reach them and you look at the bigger picture,
23:55
Speaker 1: like all I really want is a peaceful, happy life
23:59
Speaker 1: to around people who I really love and feel safe with.
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Speaker 1: Ye And the fact that you have, you've gotten to
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Speaker 1: where you've gotten to. Your sister is obviously who she is,
24:10
Speaker 1: and you guys make time to remember real life and
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Speaker 1: what's important is so inspiring and amazing.
24:19
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you and so welcome, so important because you
24:24
Speaker 3: know in our line of where people.
24:25
Speaker 2: Can spiral real quick. And I think the thing that.
24:27
Speaker 3: Makes you not is that dedication to family and to
24:31
Speaker 3: you know, really grounded relationships.
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Speaker 1: I fully agree with you.
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Speaker 3: These people have been with me since the beginning and
24:38
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, we're just we're just you know,
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Speaker 3: Frankie and Ari when we're together, that.
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Speaker 2: Is so and it's lovely.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And you you've from from the womb to the
24:50
Speaker 1: tomb baby?
24:51
Speaker 2: Amen? Amen?
24:53
Speaker 1: So what's next for you? Where are you headed next?
24:55
Speaker 1: What are we doing?
24:57
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm going out on tour. I'm so excited
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Speaker 2: about this.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be doing the sleigh Ride tour with the
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Speaker 3: icon Alyssa Edwards and the icon Corey King, who broke
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Speaker 3: the Internet once again for Halloween.
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Speaker 2: And we're gonna be going to several.
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Speaker 3: States Without Loud, which is this amazing production company that
25:18
Speaker 3: is also has like a social agenda, which.
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Speaker 2: Will be with a human rights campaign.
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Speaker 3: We're going to be going into red and purple states
25:26
Speaker 3: in addition to LA and we're gonna be bringing you know,
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Speaker 3: queer holiday cheer into places where maybe people's families suck.
25:34
Speaker 3: I love this, so come be with us if your
25:37
Speaker 3: family sucks, that's what I say. Come come celebrate with Frankie,
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Speaker 3: Corey and Alyssa.
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Speaker 1: Where can people find the dates for that?
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be posting on an Instagram, so I'll just
25:46
Speaker 3: go to my Instagram.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so to be at Frankie Grande on Instagram.
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Speaker 2: Jay Grande, I know at Frankie J.
25:53
Speaker 1: Grande, Frankie Jr. I love this so much. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: sign us off here, but I'm gonna keep you for
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Speaker 1: my boner episode. Oh you, guys, thank you so much
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Speaker 1: for listening to another episode of Untraditionally La La with
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Speaker 1: my most favorite guests ever, Frankie Grande. Thank you, my love,
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Speaker 1: and I'll catch you guys on the bonus love you
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Speaker 1: booth the bonus word