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323: Sister Wives Rewind - A Family Meltdown (S8 E2) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: My name is Celia. I'm one of your co hosts,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm here with my real tight homegirl and my
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  Speaker 1: daughter in law, the effervessge Beatrice.
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  Speaker 1: We are here to talk sister wives, rewind honey, and
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't you know it, these crazy more moms are going
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  Speaker 1: on another road trip, another one up to Billin's Montana
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  Speaker 1: or something like that. But on the way there's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be some drama and a meltdown from your favorite in mine,
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  Speaker 1: Christine and I can't wait to get into the recap.
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  Speaker 1: and so thank you in thank you. Now, before we
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  Speaker 1: get into this recap, Beatrice, I have to ask you,
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  Speaker 1: as I always do, like, what was your takeaway after
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  Speaker 1: watching the big argument between Cody and Christine.
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  Speaker 2: I'm team Christine, Okay, that's my takeaway.
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  Speaker 1: She wasn't annoying.
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  Speaker 2: Though, I mean, she's always annoying, but Cody was annoying too,
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  Speaker 2: and I feel like he just always invalidates her feelings
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  Speaker 2: and I think that was the crux of the argument
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  Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily so much about Ken per se. It was
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  Speaker 2: about the fact that Cody just doesn't give a shit
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  Speaker 2: about Christine's feelings whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, at some point you've got to let it go. Yeah, Like,
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  Speaker 1: this man is not moving, this man does not care
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  Speaker 1: about you. He's gonna do what he wants to do anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So why are we still why are we on the
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  Speaker 1: third segment where we're still arguing the same exact points.
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  Speaker 1: I was get died.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's because their marriage is falling apart.
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  Speaker 1: It really is right now apart.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Now my takeaway has nothing to do with Christine and Cody.
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  Speaker 1: It has to do with Maddie because, of course, on
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  Speaker 1: one of the stops during this road trip, the entire
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  Speaker 1: family stops at Maddie's new apartment in Utah. Where was
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  Speaker 1: it somewhere in Utah. I don't know Memphi, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know Nympho, who cares Utah? Anyway, they all stop there,
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  Speaker 1: they all check out her apartment, and then when she's
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  Speaker 1: out with Cody talking and having their one on one
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  Speaker 1: like Christine and Mary rearrange her kitchen.
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  Speaker 2: Oh did that bother you?
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  Speaker 1: I was triggered eight f like they literally took her utensil, yes,
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  Speaker 1: her cooking implements and moved them around, changed drawers, made
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  Speaker 1: like did something with her bed, and she like, get
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  Speaker 1: your grubby paws off of mationit. Plus she just moved
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  Speaker 1: in for she organized it exactly the way she wanted it.
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  Speaker 1: As a Taurus, that would have sent me to the stratosphere.
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  Speaker 1: I would have been getting the brass knuckles and we
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  Speaker 1: would have been fighting.
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  Speaker 2: I thought about you during that scene. I'm like, oh, dear, would.
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  Speaker 1: Have hated you wouldn't be upset.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean I'd be annoyed, but like this is
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  Speaker 2: their family, so I think Maddie was like, oh whatever,
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  Speaker 2: they're just practical jokers. I would not do that. Like
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  Speaker 2: if this was my kid, I would never do that
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  Speaker 2: as like a prank. I probably would leave like little
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  Speaker 2: figurines or something around the house, or like some pechuli
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  Speaker 2: bottles around them.
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  Speaker 1: Yikes, just kidding. Yeah, I just I was triggered. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't like that at all.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder how Maddie actually felt about that. I wonder
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  Speaker 2: if she was like, fuck.
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  Speaker 1: These people, Probably she doesn't want to see them anymore. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: could do that now, Thank you for stopping by, but
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  Speaker 1: you get on out all right. Well, good thoughts, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: good talk. Without further ado, let's get into our recap
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  Speaker 1: this week of Sister Wives, Season eight, Episode two entttled
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  Speaker 1: a family meltdown. We are gonna have a meltdown. It's
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  Speaker 1: a legitimate argument, yep.
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  Speaker 2: And it's actually a two parter because we continue the
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  Speaker 2: argument and the trip in the next episode when they
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  Speaker 2: finally make it to Montana and Christine is still throwing
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  Speaker 2: a fit. But we start off the episode getting ready
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  Speaker 2: for this ultimate trip, and they're going to drive up
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  Speaker 2: to Montana to meet some random polygamists, the Colliers.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go together pair.
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  Speaker 2: Of degenerates or a trio of degenerates who are thinking
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  Speaker 2: about taking on a third wife. And so Cody's like, perfect,
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  Speaker 2: more content for our show. Let's go meet them. And
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  Speaker 2: on the way to Montana, they're going to stop several times.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to stop in Saint George. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: stop in Utah to visit Maddie, and then visit Christine's
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  Speaker 2: mom and their old Lee High house, and then they
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  Speaker 2: ultimately go see the Colliers. But while they're prepping for
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  Speaker 2: this trip, everything is tense already because they're chaotic, they're late,
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  Speaker 2: they can't pack for shit. I just like if I
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  Speaker 2: was in this family, I would constantly be stressed all
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  Speaker 2: the time. Oh yeah, every single trip of theirs is
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  Speaker 2: always a shit show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they don't learn from their mistakes. They're always
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  Speaker 1: trying to leave at like eight am in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: I know, we're getting four thousand people into the RV's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, at the crack of dawn, Like, maybe adjust
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  Speaker 1: your expectations a little bit so everyone's not so totally
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  Speaker 1: stressed out. Plus everybody's got some actual sleep. But no,
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  Speaker 1: we've got to get on the road at eight and
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to make that deadline. So by the
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  Speaker 1: time they get on the road, it's almost eleven o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's pissed and it's a bummer. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I would be so bummed on every single trip, like
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  Speaker 2: get me out of here. But before they start the trip,
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: we have like a little blurb from Janelle thank you,
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  Speaker 2: talking about how she met with their family counselor Nancy,
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  Speaker 2: and apparently she realized she needs to do some more
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  Speaker 2: work and some more hill in with her family relationship,
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  Speaker 2: specifically her relationship with Mary and she's gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: work up the courage to talk to Mary about their
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  Speaker 2: relationship and talking about working through some things, but we
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  Speaker 2: don't want to do it. She's nervous about it.
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  Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? Like this just feels
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  Speaker 1: like such a non sequitor, Like I'm being blindsided, Like
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  Speaker 1: I know that there's issues and that there have been
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  Speaker 1: historic issues between Janelle and Mary, but like there was
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  Speaker 1: no run up to this, There was no context, like
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  Speaker 1: they've been fighting or they've been talking, they've been trying
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  Speaker 1: to talk through their issues. Therefore, Janelle's sought out Nancy
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  Speaker 1: to help her navigate that. All of a sudden, we
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  Speaker 1: just have this one minute talking ahead of Janelle saying, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, we're on a road trip. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've got this issue that I need to deal with
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  Speaker 1: with Mary and I'm seeing Nancy about it, and then
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  Speaker 1: we never talk about it again in this episode. Yea,
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  Speaker 1: I presume this is going to come up and they're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to like go to therapy and we're
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  Speaker 1: going to see that bullshit. But it was just so
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  Speaker 1: weird how that was edited, Like what am I missing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I agree. I thought it was very randomly placed.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, why are we talking about it now? They
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  Speaker 2: do ultimately work on their relationship a little bit through
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  Speaker 2: Nancy and through therapy, and it is kind of interesting,
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  Speaker 2: but we know ultimately doesn't really go anywhere. Like fast
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  Speaker 2: forward now to present day, it's like they're not even
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  Speaker 2: talking to each other now. So all of that work
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  Speaker 2: did nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And let me just make a prediction, having not seen
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  Speaker 1: these therapy sessions, Like I think I saw some after
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  Speaker 1: the Catfish with Cody and Mary, but I didn't see
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  Speaker 1: anything with Janelle and Mary. But I'm just gonna predict
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  Speaker 1: that Mary's walls are gonna be up yep, and she's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be unable to articulate her actual issues with Janelle,
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  Speaker 1: and that Janelle, also, being the stubborn torus that she is,
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  Speaker 1: is not She's gonna, I don't know, she's going to
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  Speaker 1: be intimidated, she's not gonna feel free to say the
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  Speaker 1: things that she truly wants to say, and we're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna get anywhere in therapy. Does that sound about right? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I know it's almost like you're a fake psychic, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, So we have that blurb from Janelle and
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  Speaker 2: then we just bought back on over to the RV chaos.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody gets ready, they go on the road, and they're
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  Speaker 2: on their way to their first stop, which is in
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  Speaker 2: Saint George, Utah, where they meet with some guy named Chris.
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  Speaker 1: He's the pawn shop guy. He's the pawn shop guy
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  Speaker 1: where McKelty ultimately goes to work when we are introduced
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  Speaker 1: to too many tacos, Tony exactly. And I think we
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  Speaker 1: went through this shop on the way to Nauvoo. Didn't
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  Speaker 1: We didn't have like some art. It looked familiar, like
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  Speaker 1: I'm young or something like that, and we had to
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  Speaker 1: spend some time going over Mormon memorabilia. I think this
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  Speaker 1: is the same guy. And I don't know why we're
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  Speaker 1: here other than to set up some phony ass conversation
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  Speaker 1: between Cody and this guy where Cody is asking for
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  Speaker 1: essentially alone, because the investors just to refresh everybody, those
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  Speaker 1: investors that they shark tanked and made a pitch to
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  Speaker 1: have not actually funded their investment and are not returning
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  Speaker 1: the calls for Cody and Robin, and so I guess
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  Speaker 1: their bright idea is to hit up their friend Chris
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  Speaker 1: and Saint George and ask for fifty to one hundred
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars in a line of credit. Yeah, they fund
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  Speaker 1: Robin's vision for the family. And strangely this Chris guy's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean what's the collateral though, And the collateral is
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: their inventory, which already doesn't sell. Yeah, how is that
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: actual collateral? It would be cars, it would be actual assets.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't an asset. So this whole thing felt fake.
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  Speaker 1: It felt like Cody was trying to present to the
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  Speaker 1: audience like, look, there are people who are willing to
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: give us loans and help us with our very viable business,
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  Speaker 1: but behind the scenes, there's not an actual loan and
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  Speaker 1: this is not getting funded. That was my impression.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because he's asking him about the line of credit,
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  Speaker 2: like in the public space of the pawn shop, while
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  Speaker 2: Chris is behind the counter talking to him about like
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  Speaker 2: polygamous paintings and stuff, and I'm just like, okay, we're
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  Speaker 2: just gonna try and have a business deal. Oh, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, Yeah, and Cody the way he brought it
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  Speaker 2: up to because I think Chris was like, well, what
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  Speaker 2: is going to be collateral? Cod He's like, well, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: like maybe the inventory or something else. He brought up
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  Speaker 2: like the business itself, like the LLC, and I'm just like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: it's worthless.
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: This doesn't make any sense, not at all.
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  Speaker 2: And why are you asking your supposed friend for a
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  Speaker 2: line of credit, Like you're not gonna pay this dude back.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like this is what they do though they
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: just ask for lines of credit, they ask for debt.
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  Speaker 2: Then they'll declare bankruptcy or whatever, and then they'll just
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: move on over to the next thing, like this is
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  Speaker 2: just part of their mo.
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  Speaker 1: But this is presumably your friend, So are you going
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  Speaker 1: to be defrauding your friend? And it wouldn't it be
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: weird if they still owed this guy money ten years
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: later or whatever, because if he actually loaned the Browns
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars for my sister wife's closet, which
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: we know was never profitable, then that guy just threw
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: good money after bad and he's never seeing a scent of.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: That back unless he sues them, unless.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: They go to jail, which we would have heard about
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: because we've got raccoons that are sniffing in the dumpster.
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  Speaker 2: Ye I would have known about it, definitely. But this
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: whole scene was kind of a non sequitor besides the
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  Speaker 2: my Sister Wives closet line of credit thing. Then Chris
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  Speaker 2: goes and shows them some weird polgamist art with this
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  Speaker 2: guy with five wives, and they talk about bringing this
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  Speaker 2: art to the Colliers as like some kind of gift
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  Speaker 2: or something, and we see a little moment between Cody
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  Speaker 2: and Christine where Christine's annoyed with Cody about this artwork
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  Speaker 2: or something. It's all this is to show that Christine
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: is just already irritated.
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  Speaker 1: She's already irritated before they do their road trip. But
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  Speaker 1: it was over like if the Colliers didn't want this
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: piece of art, which was called the Fifth Wife, which
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: depicts the Mormon hus been bringing in the Fifth Wife
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  Speaker 1: who's dressed in all these beautiful clothes, and then you've
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: got the four other wives who look, you know, like
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: they've been working real hard. Honey, that's what the art is.
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  Speaker 1: And Christine says something like, well, if they don't want this,
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  Speaker 1: because are these Colliers Mormons? I don't know. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: really a stabulish Yeah, I don't know either. Anyway, if
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  Speaker 1: they don't like this piece of art, then Christine's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: one of us should hang it in our home, and
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  Speaker 1: I think Cody said, well, you would be the most
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  Speaker 1: bitter if we brought in a fifth wife, so you
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  Speaker 1: should hang it in your home, and Christine says something like,
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  Speaker 1: don't start with me. Yeah, like there was some tension there.
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  Speaker 1: It was a little odd.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely, it seems like they've been in an era of
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: fighting with each other for a while now and now
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  Speaker 2: it's starting to bubble up to the surface, which ultimately
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: ultimately leads to Christine's meltdown later in this episode. That's
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: just my vibe. But after Saint George and getting their
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: line of credit, which is totally fake and booty, then
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: they arrive at some RV park in Nephi, Nephi, Utah wherever.
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  Speaker 2: And this is where we have Cody saying something about
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: his sleeping arrangements because originally he was going to stay
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  Speaker 2: in the hotel with I think maybe Robin or Mary.
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  Speaker 2: And then when they get to the campground, Cody's like, actually,
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  Speaker 2: this campground is pretty, so I'm gonna sleep in one
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: of the RV's tonight. And Christine is the one to say, oh, Cody,
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  Speaker 2: you've created some tension with more than one of your wives,
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  Speaker 2: which I don't really know what she's referring to with that,
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  Speaker 2: because I'm thinking she means her, or maybe she means Robin,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, see, if it was the motel or the hotel
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  Speaker 1: that he was going to spend the night in, that
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  Speaker 1: would indicate to me that he was either going to
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: stay with Robin, who likes to stay at a hotel,
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: or Mary, who's typically with Robin when she stays at
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  Speaker 1: the hotel. So my guess is that he's not going
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: to spend the night with Mary because if it was
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: Robin's night, he'd be there. So he's going to not
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: spend that night with Mary, and he's going to stay
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: somewhere in the RV park, probably with Janelle because by
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: this point we can tell he hates Christine. Yeah, and
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: so Christine, I don't know. Christine's like, well, this is
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: going to cause problems. We don't know if it ever does.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he's switching around the schedule.
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  Speaker 2: Already based on what he feels like.
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  Speaker 1: Now we see that.
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  Speaker 2: And then after they stay the night in Nephi or whatever,
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: then they go to Lehigh or they go and visit
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: their old house. And I don't know why we have
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: to do this because obviously Christine's uncomfortable by seeing the
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: old house. She even says that she has a lot
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: of bad memories there and when they left Utah in
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: the dead of night because they were at the cops,
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  Speaker 2: Christine had a lot of bad memories and trauma from that.
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  Speaker 2: She just doesn't want to be there. But we go
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: to the house anyway, and it's under construction because they're
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: trying to get it to sell.
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  Speaker 1: And there was a flood or something through some water damage,
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  Speaker 1: and Cody goes on about how there's three separate apartments.
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  Speaker 1: It would be perfect for a young polygamus husband with
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: his wives, and they want to sell this piece of property. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but like it does seem like a filler segment because
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: we get a lot of the flashbacks from when they
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: had to look out the window at the sheriff coming
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: to check out their home and whatever. Of course, they
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: fled by night and got a multip to flats so
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: on the way law is Vegas. But like it was
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: a whole production and we had to see paid In
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  Speaker 1: crying and all the kids crying when it was announced
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: that they would have to leave you u till for Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: It just felt to me like they needed actual content
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  Speaker 1: me too, they inserted it in, but I didn't really understand.
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  Speaker 1: Well maybe now looking back, I didn't understand at the
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  Speaker 1: time when I was watching it, like what is your problem, Christine?
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  Speaker 1: Like I get it that that was a bummer, and
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  Speaker 1: plus now we know that you have some wounds around
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: the fact that you were the basement wife and what
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  Speaker 1: that represents in Mormonism. But it felt to me in
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: the moment like she was just pitching a tantrum, like
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  Speaker 1: I just want to leave, I don't want to talk
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: about it, I don't want to be here anymore. Like
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: it was very petulant to me. She isn't aries, Yeah,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: and that does track, but I was just like, use
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: your big girl words, like why are you upset? And
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: also why are you visiting your upset? Which can be valid,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: maybe it's totally valid, but why are you visiting it
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: or imposing it upon the entire family who's taking this
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: holiday road trip and then not telling people why or upset?
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: So this in retrospect makes sense because then we go
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: on to have this never ending argument with Cody about Ken. Yes,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: so she's just upset period.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think she's been upset and totally riding
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: with the aries here.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Like she is boiling.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I think so it's at the point where she can't
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: really hide her emotions. And I'm not trying to justify
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: like her having a melt down in front of the
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: whole family, because we'll talk about it when we get
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: to the argument. Like, you know, maybe it wasn't appropriate
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: to have a public argument in front of all of
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: the wives and on the cameras. Maybe we shouldn't have
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: done that. It's a little a little much, But I
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: can understand knowing Christine's perspective now, like having read her
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: book and knowing how all of this played out over
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: the years, like this is the point in her marriage
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: where it's fucking bad, Like it was probably bad before
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: this and she was just dealing with it, but now
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: it's just like all of their problems are up at
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: the surface. Nothing is getting dealt with because Cody fucking
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: hates her, right, So I think that's where it's coming
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: from with Christine, Like that's why she's just having a
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: fit over everything.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Well, also, and you mentioned Christine's book, She does talk
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: about in the book how it was around this time,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: the time of this big argument with Ken and this
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: particular road trip that she noticed that her emotions were
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: kind of wonky, Yeah, and she needed to do something
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: about it. So she went and saw a doctor who
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: ultimately told her that she was perimenopausal and at some
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: point she is going to get on some hormone replacement therapy,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: which of course I have a big issue with because
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: she never told that to anybody in her audience, and
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: then went on to sell plexus for perimenopause and menopausal
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: systems as if you could just drink this pink drink
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: and mitigate all of your symptoms, when behind the scenes
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: she was getting actual HRT prescribed by a doctor.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: But in any event, at this point in the timeline,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: she's got some perimenopausal symptoms that she's dealing with which
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: could contribute to her emotionality.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And even then, I think some of that might
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: be more of an excuse to kind of invalidate Sure,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: bullshit that's happening with Cody in her marriage. But after
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: they leave Lee High, then they go and visit her mom,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: which I think she lives like forty five minutes away
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: or something like that in Utah, and Annie Christine's mom
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: is going to move in with her down in Vegas.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: So they're at her house trying to see how much
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: crab she has basically, and how much they're going to
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: have to move, because of course, the Brown family is
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: going to move Annie themselves. We're not going to hire movers,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: because why do that when Robin's got to get her
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: fake nails. We got to prioritize that in the budget
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: instead of movers. But whatever, So they're at Annie's house
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: and she's got a lot of shit, and they're trying
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: to decide what she's going to keep, what she's going
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: to leave at her house. And then we have this
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: little segment with Annie talking about how she doesn't want
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: to be an intruder in Cody's house and how she
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: really has to be careful about her there in her
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: presence around Cody because she doesn't want her and Cody
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: to trigger each other and cause issues. And then we
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: also hear from Christine saying that she had a talk
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: with her mom about how the dynamic would be having
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: her live with them. She's like, you know, if you
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: see me and Cody have an argument, because you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: we're fighting a lot right now because our marriage is terrible,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: you know, make sure you don't butt into it, and
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: you just observe it and you don't you don't say anything.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: And I thought this was really this is awkward to
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: talk about on TV.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, And I was trying to see beyond the words
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: with Annie. Like my impression watching this was that she
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: is side eyeing Cody, like she has an issue with Cody.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: And of course I learned from Christine's book that Annie
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: was in a polygamous relationship. She ultimately chose to leave
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: it when Christine was about eighteen or nineteen years old.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: She ends up getting with another guy, I think, having
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: a second marriage. At the time we're checking in with
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: her now, there is no man around, so and I
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: do think he passed. But like, she's got a complicated
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: history with polygamy, and I'm sure she has formed all
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: of these judgments about that. She's probably projecting some of
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that onto Cody, and or she's met so many polygamous
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: dudes that she can clock Cody and can tell what
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Cody is doing behind the scenes. And I think the
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: moment she gets actually into Christine's house and can see
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: how the scheduling is working and can see how Robin
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: is actually really legitimately favored, she will be in Christine's ear.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: And Christine says in her book, like there were these
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: conversations that she was having with her mother behind the scenes,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and I just want to say, there's just like this
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: melancholic kind of vibe that I have with Annie, and
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I think that's me and my own mom, because at
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: some point after my dad died, I moved my mom
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: into my house and she had to, you know, at
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: fifty two or fifty three years old, which was a
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: young woman, actually had to figure out how to live
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: with me and my then husband and navigate that. And
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: how I took that for granted in a lot of ways,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: you know, and I wasn't present with what my mom,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: how that was affecting my mom at the time, and
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: like how that was such a dance that she had
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: to do to be my mom. But also I'm living
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: in your house, and also you've got a husband, and
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I love your daughter, like all those things, Like it
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: just made me looking at Annie makes me miss my
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: mom and think about all of the opportunities I wish
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I had back to just love her more for her
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: sacrifice and just you know, there comes a time as
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: a child it doesn't matter how old you are where
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: you just realize, Wow, my mom's just a person, just
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: a lady who's living a life, and this is the
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: life she's got, you know. And I just missed my mom.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: And I was just loving Annie and seeing all of
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: her folded fabrics and all of her decorations, and she's
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: going to be giving this up to move in with Christine.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: And I also love Christine. As complicated and flawed as
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Christine is, She's going to take care of her mom. Yeah,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: And I think Christine at this time season eight's she's
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: having these profound issues with Cody in her marriage and
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: it is falling apart and polygamy is not working for her.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: It's just not. So the foundation of everything she believes
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: in is shifting, and it's the perfect time for Annie
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: to enter, oh yeah, and help Christine through this next transition.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: So I was thinking that too, and like just how
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Christine's life is kind of mirroring Annie's life at this
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: kind of point where Annie has already left her polygamist
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: lifestyle and her polygamist husband, which she is kind of
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: alluded to on the show A little bit was really
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: bad and like not a good relationship.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: And then Christine treated her too, actually did she did?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: And Christine reflects on this in her book and we've
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: talked about this at length on our Patreon if you
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: want to hear her book analysis of that, because it
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: was actually really nice to have Christine talk about it
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: in her book this way and talk about her relationship
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: with her mom. I think you're right. I think Christine's
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: at this point in this show in season eight where
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: she's on that journey of realizing saying, Oh, my mom
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: is just a person, She's gone through her own shit,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: and like, maybe my life is repeating the same kind
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: of things that Annie's life went through, and what can
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I learn from that? And how can I learn from
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: my anger with my mom and then learn and integrate
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: that into my marriage with Cody and realize, like, oh
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: my mom and I are the same. Like it's all
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: just a big circle. It's actually kind of cool for
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: me to watch, like as somebody who's had my own
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: issues with my own mom and like going through that
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: own process and you going through that with your mom.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: But yeah, there is that kind of melancholic vibe with it,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: because I think Annie sees the writing on the wall,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: like I think she's not only clocking Cody from her
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: own prejudices with polygamy, but she's probably seeing how it's
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: affecting Christine and seeing herself and Christine, and I think
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: she just wants to shake Christine at this point and
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: be like, leave this motherfucker.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh. I think she's so much more patient than that.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like she's just wanting to be present as
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Christine wakes up on her own and comes to the
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: real Oh like when my mom left when I was
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: eighteen or nineteen years old, and I took it out
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: on her and I judged her so hard. Like now here,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I am on the verge of doing that exact same thing,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: And this is an opportunity to really relate to your mom.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: It's just there's a lot that's going on, and I
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: think Annie is a symbol for so much growth for Christine. Yes,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: and so I'd love to see it. Yep, Team Annie
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and Christine me too.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: And so after they visit with Annie, then they bop
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: on over to Maddie, who's also in Utah, and they're
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: going to go and pay her a visit, and Maddie
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: is kind of excited to see her family I guess
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: according to I think Robin, Maddie was like posting on
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Facebook or something talking about how she misses her family,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: and so everybody visits her apartment, which is very cute
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: and spacious and nice and clean because there's not a
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: thousand people living in it. And this is where we
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: have Maddie and Cody having like a little private chat
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: in the RV. And while they have a chat in
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: the RV, we have the wives Christine and Mary, and
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I think Janelle and Robin kind of join in a
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: little bit too, where they're rearranging everything in her apartment
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: and kind of messing up everything, messing up her sheets
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: and all this bullshit as like a way to be
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: a practical jokester, but it's kind of annoying. But while
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: they're doing that, Maddie's in the RV with Cody, and
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Cody is pretending like he's a present father and pretending
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: like he cares. This is my opinion, where he is
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: trying to ask Maddie like, what's going on, what's going
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: on your life? I care about you, I love ya.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: You want to talk to me about stuff, and Maddie's
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: just kind of giving him surface level shit because she's
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: a young adult, she's probably fucking. She's probably doing drugs.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would be in college.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Well, remember she had roses in her apartment and everybody
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: was asking like, where did you get those roses from?
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, I mean I buy them for myself.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, so is Caleb already sniffing around
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: your apartment?
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: So I'm saying her and Caleber probably fucking in this
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: apartment in those she eats that Christine's messing up.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: You, and so is Robin. What did you think about? Okay,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: so you thought that Cody was pretending to be an
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: engaged father, like I was wondering, And maybe I just
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: give him sometimes too much of a benefit of the doubt,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: but I was just it felt to me like he
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: was realizing the lack of connection, which he also mentioned
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: when Janelle and him moved Maddie in, And he's making
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: these sort of fumbling attempts to have conversation with her,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: to check in about what's going on in her life,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: to try and share like where he was at that
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: time in his life, and she's just not receiving it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: And I was wondering if that was just teenage bullshit.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Maddie's just like I'm a teenager. I don't care. I
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: don't want to be lectured, or whether there's already a wall,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: whether Maddie is already like you know what, dude, you
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: haven't been there for me, especially since Robin's joined the family. Like,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I've got all of these other kids, we have all
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: of these homes. You haven't checked in with me authentically
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: four years, So why are we doing it now on camera?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: So what you can feel like a dad? Or is
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Cody making an actual attempt to be a dad? I don't.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: It's hard for me because if Cody was any other person,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: like any other parent, like Kim Plath, for example, if
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I saw this on the Welcome to Plathfill show, I
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: would have been like, Okay, yeah, maybe it's just their
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: kind of misguided attempt to try and connect with their kid.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: But it's Cody Brown, So to me, it came off
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: more performative in nature. I think there's probably like a
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: kernel of him that's like, yeah, man, I'm really disconnected
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: from a lot of my kids because I chose to
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: have a ginormous family, and I chose to have four
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: different women, and I can't. He can't really be one
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: hundred percent present with all of them. Like that's the
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: problem with polygamy. It's like you can't be there one
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: hundred percent of the time when you have such a
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: giant family like that.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: It's just not But he also hasn't been there as
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: much as he could have been there exactly specifically since
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Robin joined the family. Yep. And Maddie is one of
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: the main ones who was clocking that bullshit from the
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: very beginning, definitely.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: And I think Maddie was not so much like giving
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: him bullshit. I think she was just being like a
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: young adult type of a thing, because she does reflect
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: on it later to the camera to herself and she's like,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: you know, I think my dad wants me to tell
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: him everything because then to him it'll feel like we're connected.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: But no kid tells their parent everything. That's just the
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: nature of being a kid and being a child or whatever.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: So like, I'm not gonna tell him everything, but to
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: my dad, he's probably gonna think that means I'm not
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: connected with him. When I am, I'm just doing my
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: own thing. I'm living my own life.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I just moved into this apartment and now I have
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: one thousand people walking through my apartment and reorganizing all
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: of my things. Can y'all leave now?
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Get out for real? And she even says like, I'm
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: not lonely here. I like living on my own. I'm
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: loving my own life and not having to be a
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: parentified child. Also like I'm I'm doing my own thing.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I'm fucking my boyfriend that you don't know about, you
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like she's just living her own life.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: But I can see from the parent perspective, like Cody
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: just like trying to reach out because his kid hasn't
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: been at home for several months and he probably misses
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: her a little bit.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: And see, there are these flashes of a father in Cody, yep.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: And of course this is one of his oldest children,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Like he spent the most time with these kids, exactly.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: And I just wonder if he's feeling like echoes of
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: probably that life and that type of father that he
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: was and trying to recapture that. I don't know, maybe
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I'm just giving him too much credit.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I think there probably is a little bit of that
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: in there, But then his narcissism just kind of overshadowed.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: He flips his hair and he keeps it moving exactly.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: So after they visit Maddie, then they're back on the
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: road again and they're heading up to Wyoming because they're
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: going to pick up pick up some of the kids
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: who have been staying at the ranch right all summer.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: So I think it's like Gay and Savannah. I was surprised,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: she's so little, Yeah, but she was gone for.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Weeks though, seeing their grandparents, Grandma Chero, I guess. So.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like my stepsisters used to do that. They would
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: spend whole entire summers in San Francisco with their grandparents. Yeah,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: as like little kids, like six year olds. Oh wow, Yeah,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I think it's great that they
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: have this for some of the kids. Sure, it's weird
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: that not all of them go, Like it's weird that
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: only seems like Janelle's kids.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Go up to the ranch there. Yeah, so maybe that's why.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: But they go and pick them up from the ranch,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: and then they're gonna go take a little pit stop to
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Yellowstone and take pictures of the geysers and stuff. And
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: this is where the tension between Christine and Cody starts
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: to bubble up to the surface because at one point
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: they stop at some other campground I think it maybe
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: it was at Yellowstone, I don't really know. And originally
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: after this pit stop and Yellowstone, they were going to
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: go see Robin's booty friend named Matt or something. They
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: were gonna go hang out with him, but he can't.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Be booty I don't know, because it's Robin spread that's right, Okay.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: So apparently he canceled last minute, and so the family's like, well,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: what are we gonna do. We need something to do,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: we need content to film, and so Janelle comes up
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: with the bright idea, Hey, what about Ken Grant. Didn't
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: he text you like recently to like hang out or
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: go bowling or something. Cody's like, yeah, that's.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: A great idea.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Maybe we should hit up Ken Grant. But this sets
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Christine off.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: But let's just talk about Janelle for a second. Like,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: why would Janelle suggest that unless she did not know
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: that Christine was upset, unless she did not know that
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Ken had sent the text that we'll talk about to
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Cody where he told Cody to ditch three of his
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: wives or whatever. But to me, it feels like Janelle
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: did know that. Yeah, Janelle knew that Christine had a
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: problem with Ken, and she recommended it anyway. Yeah, so
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: does that mean you are a shit stirer?
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I think so?
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Does that mean you are an ally to Cody Brown
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: and just want to do what Cody wants to do?
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I was just like, what's going on with you, Janelle?
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: That's kind of weird.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I thought it was weird too, and it kind of
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: felt to me like maybe Cody had talked to Janelle
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: about it, like beforehand, privately in their bedroom or whatever,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: after they just fucked being like Janelle, Hey, wouldn't it
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: be a great idea if you suggested that we hung
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: out with Ken Grant. I know, Christine, because she's such
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: a bitch, doesn't want me to be friends with him,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: but like maybe if you could bring it up, everybody
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: else would be on board, and so she does.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I could see that That's.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: What I'm thinking, and I just felt like it was
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: really weird. So once Janelle brings it up, then Christine
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: gets set off because, as we recall, we had previous
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: episodes from like the beginning one, yeah, season one of
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Ken Grant, who is an LDS Mormon he was BFFs.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: With Cody back in mission together.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: They did a mission together and probably had homosexual I'm sorry,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: well they probably forticated out.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: But when we went on that trip back to his hometown,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: like all of his high school friends were like we
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: thought Cody was buoyantly gay, not just gay, not undercove
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: or lover, not bottom by sticking. And so that's I mean,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: an interesting thought that maybe him and Ken had some
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: male love. I don't know, I mean, I'm just not
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: judging anybody was, but no, yeah, that's what happened.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: So yeah, in season one, we met up with Ken,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: and Ken is not approving of Cody's lifestyle whatsoever.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: And let me just note for the record, I think
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Ken is an evil little man. I thought he was
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: so dogmatic and strident and judgmental and to have the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: audacity like in the clip that they show when they're
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: all like getting together, like to talk about like stuff
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: in life and just what's been going on we were
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: last year in high school, like totally holding Cody's feet
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: to the fire, like what happened to you? Like, I
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: just can't believe you became a polygamous and that you
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: turned away from the one true religion and now you
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: have all of these wives. It just seems stupid to me,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: like he was really rude about it.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Yep, objectively, and at that time Christine was privy to
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: that conversation. She was offended by it. She's been offended
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: by Ken this entire time. And so after that, after
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: that scene that we saw in season one, apparently Ken
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: and Cody had still been in contact for a bit
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: and Ken had sent Cody a text at some point
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: recently saying well, if you just left three of your
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: wives and you could come back to the Mormon church
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: and be saved. And Christine found out about this text
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: message and was very offended by it again on top
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: of already being offended by him. So when Ken Grant
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: gets mentioned as part of this family trip, seemingly like
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: he's going to be a last minute addition. So it's
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: not like Christine was prepared to see Ken Grant or
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: the family was prepared to see him. They're just like, oh,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: why don't we see him? We're in Wyoming, why not
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: he's around. Christine's pissed off about it. She doesn't want
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: to see him. She believes Ken Grant owes them, and
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: specifically her an apology because she was the one that
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: was the most offended by it, And of course nobody's
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: really on Christine's side whatsoever. We have the OG three
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: being like, yeah, I don't really understand why Christine's upset
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: by it. It's not that big of a deal. Ken's
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: just a jokester. He's just making.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Jokes, okay, And so my first thought about that is,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know if my husband received a text from
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: his real tight homeboy saying like, let's go do this
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: and like why don't you dump your loser of a
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: wife for like, why don't you dump your wife so
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: that you can come back and be my friend or
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: be part of this, Like the first thing, my husband
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: would just ghost. Yeah, you would never hear from my
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: husband again. And if there was a conversation, he would
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: absolutely say like what the float are you talking about?
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not, Yeah, Like there's just no question that that
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: is what my husband would do. I can understand Christine
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: wanting Cody to have the impulse to defend his family,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: but the problem is that Cody will do anything for
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: male affection. And I'm not talking on a homosexual level,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: but like he's so distorted inwardly as a result of
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: what I believe is his toxic relationship with his now
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: deceased father season eight, when he's dead, like, he's so
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: distorted from that relationship that he's looking for male connections
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: anywhere he can get them, and he's willing to pretty
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: much do anything, even travel during COVID, after he laid
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: down the law to all of his family that they
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: couldn't go anywhere, Like he's traveling to Oklahoma so he
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: can officiate some wedding for his bro like, and we
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: see him over the seasons doing stupid stuff with his
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: dumb male friends and having a variety of conversations, and
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: he holds above all else the opinion of these other men,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: And so Ken can be an absolute asshole, which I
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: think he is, And Ken can be disrespectful and call
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: out his relationships, which Cody claims to hold as sacred
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: and dear and as a tenet of his religion. But
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Ken can do that and Cody won't say shit. And
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: all throughout this conversation and argument that he has with Christine,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: he talks about, well, you just want me to put
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: my balls into your purse. You just want to emasculate me,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: like Cody literally thinks sticking up for his family equals
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not a man if I talk back to or
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: confront another man, or if you don't allow me to
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: be friends with this man, you're asking me to be
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: a woman. Yeah, it's really fucking weird. Now I have
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: a problem with Christine Beatrice because she's always teamed too much.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: She's always going on and on and on. Like at
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: some point, because this last this argument lasted for three
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: whole segments out of six. Yeah, so like for half
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: the episode or longer, we're listening to the very same
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: argument over and over again, which is Christine saying, I
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: need you to be the champion for this family. I
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: need you to be pissed off that somebody would even
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: say this about us. I need you to then go
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: and ask this guy to apologize before I feel comfortable
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: to do something. And then Cody feeling like, who are
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: you to tell me how to run my family and
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: my relationships, calling her poisonous to the rest of the family,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: and like just going in circles around and around and
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: around and to me. And I'm like Christine, he's just
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: never gonna give you what you want him to give you,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: and at some point we just have to accept that
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: and say, Okay, I'm gonna walk away, which is what
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I think Janelle is saying or Mary is saying when
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: they're saying like, just agree to disagree. Yeah, Robin says that,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: don't throw away the entire holiday, our road trip where
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: we're supposed to be bonding, so that you guys can
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: keep on arguing about this. Don't ruin it for me.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, if.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: It's Robin, don't ruin it for me. Like, I hope
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: that we can get over this, but Christine is just
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: not willing to do that. Christine is emotionally immature. Christine
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: is not smart, neither is Cody, and she doesn't She's
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: like a dog with a bone. And I was getting
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: annoyed at that. I'm like, stop being vulnerable and pouring
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: out all of your desires and needs to a partner
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: who doesn't give a fuck. Yeah, well stand up.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: But I think that's the thing that's hard, Like as
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: the viewers, like we watch this and we're like, oh
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: my god, Christine, like just stop, Like obviously Cody is
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: telling you over and over again that he doesn't give
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: a shit, like he does not care how you feel.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: He does not care that you're offended. He is not
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: going to defend you. He's not going to defend the family,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: and he's not going to ask his friend to apologize
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: because he thinks that that's a way to emasculate him. Like,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: he's just not going to do it. But I think
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: the reason why Christine is being a lot right now
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: is maybe, like she had said in her book, maybe
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: it's peri menopause in influencing some of her emotionality. Maybe
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: it's the fact that the root of this, in my opinion,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: is that Cody has not prioritized her four years ever, ever,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: like in their entire marriage at.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: All, even in their honeymoon.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she didn't have a honeymoon. She was the basement wife.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: She has never been prioritized. She's never felt pretty, she's
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: never felt enough for him, And so I think that's
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: the root of it. Sure, I do think that she
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: is emotionally immature in the sense that she can't realize
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: that that's the root. But she's also at this point
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: in time still under the aub kool aid, Like she's
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: still under this indoctrination. She's still under the idea that
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: like she has to suffer in order to gain salvation.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: So like she's still very like brainwashed in that way.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: And so I think she's just so like I don't
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: know what to do with all this, Like she can't
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: help but feel it also, and she can't help but
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: express it because this is offensive to her, like Ken's
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: existence is offensive to her because he doesn't believe in
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: their family. He doesn't believe in her legitimacy as a wife,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: as a third wife, because he doesn't believe in polygamy,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: like he doesn't believe in their faith, and like you
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: have Cody responding to all of this being like all
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: of my friends think I'm fucking wack adoodle, Like they
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: think I'm crazy for being a polygamist. My own sister,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: my own sister who thinks that I'm just having sex
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: with a bunch of women, Like she doesn't even believe
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: that this is a tenant of my faith. So to him,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: his perspective is like everybody thinks I'm weird, So I
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: don't really care that my childhood friend from kindergarten is
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: saying this offensive stuff, like it's not a big deal.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Well, he also tries to frame it as I mean
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: this is their idea of religion rcause he called it
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: a religious prejudice or I forget the exact thing that
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: he said. But he's like, well, that's just his right
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: to believe that thing about his religion. And you know,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell him that it's wrong to
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: believe that, even though he's telling you that it's wrong
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: that you're living the lifestyle that you're living. But so
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: he's trying to make it this more moral argument as
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: to why he doesn't want to cause friction when the
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: reality is you're just cowardly and unwilling to stick up
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: for these wives. And I guarantee you if it was
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Robin Oh who had a problem with Ken, he'd be like,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: absolutely not, it's off the table. Because in this episode,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: at some point along the way, they stop at some
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: campground and Gabes got a loose toos and Cody's like,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: let me just get my pliers. Yep, let me pull
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: out your fucking tooth or whatever we've got. This I
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: couldn't even watch. I can't watch nose and teeth stuff.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: It's like an dick for me. But at some point,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I guess Robin's just looking at him like, what are
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: you doing? And Cody says, oh, gosh, Robin thinks I'm
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: a bad dad and immediately stops exactly, even though he
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: was doing it and everybody else was like, it's fine.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: But if Robin disapproves, then he changes his behavior. So
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I just think that if it was Robin who had
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: a problem with Ken, he would have been like, you'd
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: say less and that's why will take care of it.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: But it's Christine, and he doesn't actually respect value, much
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: less love Christine, and she's still at that point in
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: her journey where she's crying out for loves from this man.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: And that's exactly it. And I think that's why Christine
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: is so emotional because I think she knows and she's
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: been seeing how Cody favorites Robin, like entirely nobody believes
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: her in the family because at this point Janelle doesn't care.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: She's getting what she wants from Cody. Mary is still
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: simping for Cody, so she's just gonna Robbie and she exactly,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: and she's just gonna be on their team. So Christine
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: is really on the outs right now. Nobody is listening
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: to her, nobody's validating her. Feelings. None of the wives
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: are even trying to be comforting or validating of her
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: feelings with Ken, like Mary tries to, uh, what's the
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: word media mediate, Yeah, she's trying to like diffuse the
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: situation and being like, well, he's just a stupid guy.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Christine like it's okay, he's just dumb. Cody can be
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: a dumbass too, like it's not a big deal. But
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Christine can't really accept any of that because she's just
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: feeling this Cody doesn't care about me. Cody doesn't validate
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: my feelings. Cody doesn't love me, he doesn't prioritize me.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not even his favorite. I'm not even liked, and
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: all we do is argue all the time. And I
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: just want him to validate me. I just want him
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: to love me. I just want him to care about me.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: I think that's where it's coming from, and that's why
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: it is a lot. But that's why it's also frustrating
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: to watch as the viewers, because we're like Christine, he's
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: never gonna care about you, But she can't see that
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: She cannot, honey, and it's gonna be a while until
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: she does. We're gonna go Galveston and everything. Yet we're
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: gonna build rock towers or karens or whatever they're called.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: And she's still not gonna know she's gonna follow this
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: man to flag staff and truly believe that this is
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: what she's supposed to do until that moment strikes during
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: COVID and she's like, oh, for real, yep, I'm out exactly.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: And this fight continues on into the next episode. And
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I know this because I've seen these episodes, but this
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: continues into the next one, and that the next episode
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: is where Cody straight up says you're pmsing are you
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: on your period?
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Like he's calling out her emotions and her menstrual cycle,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: and he does that in front of the other wives.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: And that's why, in my opinion, like when Christine talks
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: about it in her book and she's like, it's perimenopause,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I feel like some of that is from this conversation
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: and from her thinking like, oh, I'm just being irrational
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: because my hormones, and I think some of it might
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: be hormonal. Like I think some of the over the
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: top like yelling and like slamming her fists and stuff
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: on the table, like that might be more hormonal and like, Okay,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: maybe chill out. You're a grown woman, like you don't
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: need to slam stuff. But I think like, underneath of it,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: her feelings are valid, and it's kind of for me.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: It's kind of sad to watch her go through this
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: because I'm like, Christine, like, you don't need to be
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: making all these excuses for how you feel. It's okay
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: to be upset that your husband won't even ask his
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: friend to apologize to you when you're deeply visibly offended.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: So do you know if Ken Grant ever comes back
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: into Sister Wives? I like, do we ever see him
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: approach this subject with Christine in the future.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I think he comes back in later episodes of this season.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I love this season. Yeah.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think we get like the apology from him
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: on camera, but I was on Reddit doing some investigative
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: journalism and apparently after these episodes aired, Ken allegedly called
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Christine after because he saw that, and he apologized to
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: her after. Okay, so like he's not completely terrible, Like
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: at least he was like, oh my gosh, Christine, I'm
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: so sorry. He did call her after the episodes were aired,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: all right, So and this is from Reddit, so maybe
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: this didn't happen.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but okay, okay, yeah, yeah, because I
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: would have done that. I mean, if I am and
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I said something as boneheaded as that, and I knew
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I really affected somebody, I would have definitely said something that.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, because I haven't watched next
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: week when he drops the uh pms. When he drops that,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: do the other wives defend her.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: No, they just are like, yeah, maybe it's that. So
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: it's like it's bs. Yeah. That's why I'm like, all right,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: this is so lame, because it's just because women are
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: emotional doesn't mean that it's your fucking hormones.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Of fact, it's our strength cue bitch.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: So that's where I get a little like offended. That's
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: why I've been on team Christine on this point. I
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: know she is a lot, Yeah she is.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: She is annoying a little bit, and that's just.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Like her personality for sure. But like I definitely empathize
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: with her and I can see that this is an
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: issue within their marriage that's coming out. Sure, I do think,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: and I will say the Christine people can come for
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: me in the comments. I do think it was totally
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: inappropriate to bring it up on camera and in front
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: of all the other wives, Like, we don't need to
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: be having an argument in front of everybody. I think
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: that shit's kind of christy.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's not just that though, Like it sounds
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: like when Cody's saying that Christine is poisoning the family
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: and the family trip, it feels like it's not just
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: these little adult family meetings that they're having at the
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: picnic table between stops. It's also like while the kids
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: are there and everybody's trying to have dinner or make breakfast,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: she's still got like this stank attitude and is making
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: everybody feel uncomfortable, and like we don't want to do that.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: We want to be able to deal with our shit
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: in a different way, but like we're not perfect people. No, no, no,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: She's like being exploited, she's being cheated upon by her husband,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: she's being treated terribly, and so like how else are
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: we supposed to deal with stuff? Sometimes? And I do
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: have grace for her in that regard.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing too, Like, you know, she's probably
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: bringing it up in these times because she does never
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: see Cody right in general.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Because am I supposed to even raise it because you're
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: not here, you never come see me.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not on your schedule exactly, and so of course
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I'm going to bring it up, sure everybody. But I
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: was just like clocking Robin during this too, because she
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: knows she was just judging the whole thing. And I
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: bet her and Cody were talking shit about Christine.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Well, she even says on the couch at some point, well, like,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I hope that we can resolve this dumb ass argument
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: so that it doesn't affect the rest of my holiday. Wow. Yeah,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: selfish concerned about what's gonna happen because it is all
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: about her, it is, Yeah, but this is another peak
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: behind the curtain of what's really going on. And we
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: may say that Christine's reaction is over the top, but
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: is it because we don't really know what's happening behind
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: the scenes, behind closed doors. And I think there's a
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: lot that's actually happening.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Definitely, And I think that's the reason why it is
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: over the top, because they have such a horrible marriage
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, and it's been horrible the entire time,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: but like it's come up to the surface. I bet
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: this is the time where Cody's like, yeah, I'm not
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: fucking you that much anymore. I bet this is the
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: time where intimacy starts tanking. He's not seeing her or
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: any of the other wives as often because he's always
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: over at Robin's. So like, yeah, tensions are high, but
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: is Cody gonna do anything about it?
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: No?
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: No, because he doesn't care. He doesn't care about anybody's
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: feelings or anybody's boundaries or anything other than Robin's. And
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: that's unfortunate. And so Christine and Cody really just fight
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: the rest of the episode. It's going to continue into
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: next week's episode, and it gets worse, and at the
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: end of this episode, we have Mary trying to lighten
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: the mood by getting everybody to throw marshmallows at each other,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: and it's like whatever. Then we have the preview for
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: next week's episode where coding Christina is still fighting. He
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: tells her that she's not being responsible for how she's
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: behaving because it's all on her, it's not on him
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: because he hasn't done anything wrong. We go to meet
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: the Colliers and they have a custom license plate that
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: says polypam and Gwen is like, what does that mean?
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Folly fam mean, well, I don't know, Gwen, maybe think
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: about it for a second. And then at at some point,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Cody says something like he's not that bad of a husband,
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: and Janelle ends up walking away.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like joking about something and he's saying it
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: in a mocking tone, like I'm not such a bad husband.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: And Janelle gets up and walks.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Out, which is interesting, yeah, because she does rep for
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: him a lot and acts like he's a great husband
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: at this point in time. But she gets up and
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: leaves because of that comment. And then the Colliers talk
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: about taking on a third wife, and you know, they
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: want us to know that it's not about sex, sure,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: And what's his face? Mister Collier is like, yeah, you know,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: I'm forty five. If anything, I could use less sex.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: So I'm getting so much pussy haul, Just like, why are.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: We meeting yet another polygamist family that we're never going
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: to see again? I don't know, we are never going
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: to see those weird Missouri people that we met in
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: the last road trip. We've met a few of these
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: different families and I'm like, where are they now? I
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, I don't know. And I don't care
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: me neither at all, because you have a bunch of
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: weirdos degenerate. Thank you well. I have to admit I
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: was very entertained. I like seeing the things starting to
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: bubble over. I like seeing Cody's inability to truly defend
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: himself other than to just say things like you you're
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: trying to put my balls in your purse or whatever,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: like he doesn't. I like to see him, I guess, squirm, yeah.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: And Christine is making him squirm definitely, and she is
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: not letting it go. She is like a dog with
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: a bone on this one. And I kind of love
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: to see it me too.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: And I like to see the real family dynamics at
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: play instead of the fake bullshit that we get, you know,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: in the later seasons and stuff.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: And I wonder for anybody listening or watching out there, like,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: what was the opinion of the audience at the time,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: did they think Christine was acting ridiculously? Did they think
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: that Cody was arguing in good faith? I wonder if
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: pretty much which everybody was clocking, what was really going on,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: like we do retrospectively. I just don't know. If you do,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: please drop in the comments. I'd love to hear.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let us know.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Please, Well, Beatrice, is there anything else that we should
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: say to these beautiful raccoons before we get up on
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: out of here.
• 54:15
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• 54:18
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• 54:20
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• 54:24
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• 54:26
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• 54:26
  Speaker 1: We're going to be back tomorrow to give you our
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: final installment of our Love Is Blind Season ten recap.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: We're getting into the reunion. We're actually about to film
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: that and record that right now. I'm excited, so come
• 54:39
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• 54:43
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• 54:46
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