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Ep.300: 'Therapy Show 2026 – Only 10 Weeks To Go!' with guests Charlotte Speer & Keanu Rodrigues · The STA Clinician Podcast

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You're listening to the STA Clinician Podcast, connecting clinicians across healthcare.
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Welcome to episode 300 of the STA Clinician Podcast. My name is Matt Phillips.
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And as always, this episode is being recorded live on the Sports Therapy Association
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YouTube channel and Facebook page at 8 o'clock UK time on a Tuesday.
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We're at episode 300. It sounds good, 300, but it's kind of like 5.76923077
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years. So it's not really that cool.
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I think we'll make more of a fuss when we get to six years.
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But it's still nice isn't it 300 it's still pretty cool and i'm really happy
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to say we're going to be celebrating it with two of the wonderful team from
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therapy show formerly known as therapy expo,
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which for those of you are not aware is the uk's largest multidisciplinary event
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for msk professionals and it's returning to the nec once again,
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in birmingham this november on wednesday the 25th and thursday the 26th and
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the sti as always as with every year since it first started 14 years ago, I think.
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We'll be there. So do come along to see us if you're an SDA member,
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especially if you're coming along by yourself.
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And even if you're not an SDA member, come along. If you're looking for someone
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to talk to and hang out with, then do feel free to use us as a little meeting
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point and have a chat with Gary and Jake and I'll be around and other people
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running the stand. That'd be lovely to see you.
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People who have joined us live, thank you very much. If you do want to leave
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a comment or ask my guests a question, then you are welcome to do so.
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And this is your opportunity. For example, Gary Benson, founder of the STA is
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here. Obviously, Gary's here on the 300th episode.
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And he says, congratulations on 300th episode.
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Really, Gary, I could not have done it without you.
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No one would have asked me. So thank you, Gary. And Leslie Campbell,
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the wonderful Leslie Campbell who's getting some great,
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stuff on Instagram recently doing some great work with the ST school and Anna
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Maria hey Leslie thanks for joining us and Leslie says hi well done Matt with
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capital letters thank you
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a quick question for expert oh no we don't have a question yet Leslie let's
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leave that little hook Brian says evening all thanks for joining us Brian and
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other people are coming in the lounge so great to see you guys thank you so much.
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Right then so like I say very shortly I'm going to be joined by show manager
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of therapy show Charlotte Spear and also Keanu Rodriguez.
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I know, what a cool name. Thank you for everybody who commented on that.
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And I'm sorry, it's not Keanu of Point Break or Matrix, but it's still pretty cool, Keanu Rodriguez.
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He's going to be coming from the marketing team.
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To give us a peek what's in store with the new rebrand happening after,
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like I say, 13 years of Therapy Expo, it's now Therapy Show.
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Before I bring up my guests, I must say a huge thank you to my guest last week,
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who was Josie DeLore, who came back second week in a row.
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Josie is a registered massage therapist in Canada, highly respected educator
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and founder of RMT Sexual Support Society.
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Josie came and joined me for an hour.
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To answer your questions, which we put on a QR tag. Please don't use the QR
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thing now, it won't go anywhere.
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But we asked you to send us questions for the topic, Navigating Awkward Client
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Boundaries in Massage Therapy.
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And Josie shared her fantastic experience, her own personal experience and her
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experience of working with other massage therapists to answer your questions.
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As always, it's available on all popular podcast apps. And if you want to watch
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the live recording, then go to the Sports Therapy Association YouTube channel.
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And the episode does discuss real scenarios, trauma triggers,
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documentation, discharge templates, exit plans, loads of information on there.
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There is a little trigger warning on there because we do talk about the encroaching
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of sexual boundaries and sexual harassment and abuse. So be aware,
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you'll notice in the show notes, there is a warning.
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And if you are affected by it, then there's some contact information at the
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bottom. If you're an STA member, then do make sure that you reach out to the
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STA. Details on the members page.
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And if you did, thank you to everybody who sent in questions.
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If I said last week, if we didn't get around to answering your question,
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because we received quite a lot, then just to stress, please don't let that
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be the end of your question. Don't lose the opportunity. You've asked us, we couldn't get to it.
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Do please reach out to somebody else, whether that's a colleague or somebody
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from your own professional association. If you remember, If you are with the
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SDA, this is what we're here for.
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I know we're here to help you. So make sure you do contact us through the members portal.
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You can either phone and speak to Gary or you can send an email in.
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Just don't let that question disappear if you felt you needed to get some information on that topic.
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Right. There we go. So thanks very much, Josie, again, for giving up your time,
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Josie DeLorme, who you can find all these show notes will give you all details
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of how to contact Josie because she did offer, they did offer their services
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as well if you want to contact them. So take advantage of that.
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Right. Back to tonight's episode, Therapy Show 2026, 10 weeks to go.
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Let's bring up my special guest, Charlotte Spears, show manager,
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and Keanu Rodriguez from marketing.
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Hey, Charlotte. Thank you, aren't you? Hey. How are you doing?
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Not bad. Not too bad. Sorry, that was a bit of a long intro.
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I didn't mean to be that long.
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It was just such a powerful episode last week. It was really important.
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So, yeah, we wanted to give our due thanks.
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But thank you for giving up your time as well.
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Charlotte, you weren't able to join us last time. We had Liam by himself.
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Never leave Liam Richardson by himself. But he did come back in episode 278
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back in March to let us know a little bit. And you can make it.
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But I trust you are fighting fit now.
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Absolutely i am 10 weeks to go do you know people scratch their nose when they're
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not telling the truth have you ever seen that i do have a bit of a clock oh
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there we go i'll just let you know i saw on 24th great observation yeah out in me.
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No uh but i do appreciate if you have got a cold then double thank you for giving
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up your time to be with us um as show manager there's so many questions we've
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got for you and people if you listen to podcasts if you joined us live sorry if
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you listen to the live recording then take advantage now this is the therapy
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show show manager so questions
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and also keanu first time podcast thank you very much for giving us your time as well,
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no thank you thank you so much for the invite and again it's going to be so
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interesting hearing about your perspective in terms of marketing the show and
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the rebrand and all of that so i really appreciate you both giving your time,
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for listeners who aren't aware of you guys or maybe you aren't aware of therapy
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show let's hope that there are some people who've never heard of you.
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Otherwise, we're just telling people who want to know about it.
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Maybe, Charlotte, could you start, give us a little history of a therapy expo,
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a therapy show, and your role?
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Yeah, of course. So, the show has been running for over 10 years now,
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started in Manchester, and of course, now takes place in Birmingham at the NEC,
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the amazing NEC, centre of the country.
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Great hotels, great restaurants, easy access, we hope, for everyone to get there.
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And I guess over the years, the show has evolved extensively.
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We've grown, I think the last stat we had was 68% in floor space.
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So more than doubled the event since it first took place all those years ago
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in Manchester, before my time.
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I took the event on in 2021, so the first edition after COVID.
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And essentially, I was told, do what you can. It's a small event. It's a small industry.
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See what you can do with it, really. And I'll admit, I've never been so busy.
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It turns out that this industry is never ending.
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There's so much that we have done and still can do with the event and our focus
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is very much on increasing the experience so making sure that,
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anyone exhibitor speaker partner and delegate anyone who's on site at the event
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leaves excited and absolutely buzzing for same time next year you know that's
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really our mission and goal at therapy show now,
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That was, I remember, I just, I forgot how infectious you are as well.
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If you listen to the podcast and you really, this isn't one of the times that
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you need to go up to YouTube and watch it because you need to see Charlotte
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and the passion she puts into this. I mean, it's so infectious.
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And I remember it reminds me of when, God, a year ago, minus 10 weeks,
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when we just caught up on one of the days and you were walking around and you
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kind of telling me a little bit about, have you seen the new colors?
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What do you think of them? Have you seen this? And it was kind of like,
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you know, you really were looking and thinking, right, how's it going to change?
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And you were so excited about it.
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And yeah obviously other people are involved Keanu for example but it does seem
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for people who talk to you and see you on the podcast that,
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this has really been not just yours but it's been one of your little babies
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for quite a while now and you've been trying to nurture it and kind of tweak
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it a little bit and change it so yeah have you managed have you this year I hope so yeah.
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I hope So, well, we get more people now more than ever coming to the event,
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more exhibitors, more exhibitor inquiries, you know, who want to be part of the event.
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We're working with more partners than ever before, sponsors,
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speakers, speakers coming from all over the world.
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Oh man, we're going to talk about something later on. You've,
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yeah, you're definitely doing something right because some of the speakers you've got coming.
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Last year, I think there was about well there was over 2 000 delegates and there was 100,
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speakers specialist speakers 150 plus hours of cpd sessions and 150 plus exhibitors
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do you know yet this year how it's going to compare not that size is everything
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but you mentioned that you've got even more happening this year,
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so the show has grown theaters have grown to cater for a larger audience and
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i guess Everyone should remember that back in December and January,
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we ran a very special offer on cheaper tickets to make it more accessible.
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We are expecting 3,000 plus bodies on site.
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Bodies, weird way to put it, actually. I mean, delegates. That doesn't include
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exhibitors, staff and speakers.
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3000 plus delegates are expected. We're already tracking ahead of the total
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number of delegates that turned up last year, which is insane.
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And it's not, you know, I obviously, I do genuinely love the event.
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I love the industry. I love the people more than anything involved across the
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whole sector, but I really do have an excellent team that work with me.
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That's cool. That's cool. Thank you for that. There's so much more I want to ask you, but Keanu.
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Yes hello hello what a name what a name we won't dwell on the name but great
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name how long you've been you're you're representing marketing here yes um have
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you been with therapy show for a while or with closer still media what's your
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story how did you get involved in all of this.
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I've recently moved on to Therapy Show. I've been with Closest All Media for
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about three years. I used to work on an event called Clinical Pharmacy Congress.
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So now I've moved over to their Therapy Show, which I'm super excited about,
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and I've taken the lead on.
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And it's something that I really enjoy. I love sports, and I love the industry.
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I love the people. You know what I mean? They don't sit behind the desk.
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They're more interactive. They want to have a conversation. So it's really nice.
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I get to engage a lot in it.
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And you've joined a like a really in I suppose interest there's probably loads
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of adjectives that Charlotte would use to describe this time but it's definitely
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a fast moving time isn't it with the rebrand and everything and a little bit of uncertainty and,
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it's crazy and I guess Keanu for me his strength is his insight into the industry
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first and foremost because me personally I had zero knowledge you know sport
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wise I like strongman that's kind of my thing,
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other than that you know I'm not a big sports person whereas Keanu's kind of
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hit the ground running he's creative,
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please go and check out the Instagram the creative,
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emails that have been going out as well the content I think he just gets it
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he's very personable he's spoken to most of our speakers already,
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and we're just doing a lot more we're working at a faster pace than ever before
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which is really exciting and the video as well we've put out a recent video
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and it's I have to say I'm very proud of it. I think it's brilliant.
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That's cool. It's so nice to hear. And, you know, I mean...
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For me personally, I know the people I speak to, I think a lot of the Energy
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for Therapy show does come from the team. You are there on the day.
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You're walking around. You know, when it was Molly there, Molly was there.
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And you talked to Molly, you were there. I'm sure Kiana will be running around.
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Liam's there. We've got other people. You're all there.
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And you can see from the way, and you've got Vern walking around.
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So it's like, it's a very, this is probably where the success comes from.
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It's really led by you guys up front.
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You're on the shop floor, breathing it, seeing it, talking with people.
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So yeah I'm going to put the success down to you guys and like you say your team,
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it's like Christmas Day for us we wait 12 months 12 months of work crazy isn't
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it to see it all come together so yeah the best part really is seeing the floor plan,
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turn into a real life you know just standing at the entrance and looking when,
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everything's been built and the carpet's been laid and it's the end of actually
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the build day is the most exciting for me because it's just It's Christmas Eve,
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waiting for people to come through the door.
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It's mega. It really is. It's mega. Yeah, it really is mega.
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For those of you over 40 years old, that means it's really good.
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I'm not going to pick on any names in the audience, but yeah,
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there'll be show notes, a little translator. Nothing sus about this. It's all mega.
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Let's talk a little bit about the rebrand. And so, like I say,
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at the end of the last show, there was a little teaser of the new colors and
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stuff, and people were talking about it. And we mentioned it in Liam back in March.
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But what I'd love to hear from you guys, what does the rebrand mean to you?
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Why the move after 13 years, I think, like you said, at the Therapy Expo?
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Why is it now a therapy show?
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Well, complete transparency. And I guess, you know, my management team maybe,
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find this a bit controversial.
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I just hate the word Expo. I think it screams commercial.
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It's off-putting for me. You know, I personally don't want to attend an exhibition, an expo.
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I think it sounds overwhelming. You know, I appreciate it's not the biggest
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change in the world, Therapy Expo to Therapy Show, but I do believe the word
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show encompasses really what we've become.
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We're conference-led, and of course, it's kind of a hybrid conference-exhibition hybrid.
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But as I mentioned, you know, the biggest focus for us is really transforming
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the event into an experience.
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I hate the thought of, you know, being forced, I've got to go to that bloody show.
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Coming in with your ticket, you know, avoiding exhibitors, going straight to
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a session that you've got to sit in a seminar for hours. And,
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you know, I just hate the word exhibition
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because I think that's what I personally think when I hear that.
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So it was just a really kind of a headline on what we are. We are a therapy show.
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What do we do? We've got education. We've got products and services available
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to you. The show is essentially built for this profession.
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So if you don't want to come, I mean, we've got a big problem on our hands because
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everything we do, we live and we breathe, is for the industry.
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That's really what I'm paid for, to put on an event for the industry.
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Such a good speaker. If you speak in the show, I'd go and see you speak.
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I want to see you speak somewhere.
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Forget Lorne Moseley. Sorry, it's cancelled, Lorne Moseley. No,
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we're going to have Charlotte be out of the motivator. I do go on a bit.
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That's great. I love it. I love chatting.
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And I think that's actually where the show, dare I say it, I think the success
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of the show is simply through me, myself and the team speaking to as many people as possible.
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Delegates, exhibitors, speakers.
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You know, I've tried to go out and meet as many people as possible.
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Everyone that I'm talking to, i make an effort to see everyone on site because
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this is where i get my ideas and feedback you know what works for you what do
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you like what do you do what do you not like and that's really what what builds
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the event very cool love it keanu you're,
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involved in marketing and charlotte's already praised a lot of the stuff we're
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putting out there how do you think marketing has changed to to help this rebrand take place to make it,
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feel to the audience that it is more like charlotte's of a show now of a living
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experience as opposed to just an expo with lots of different sections to it?
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I guess we just, from my perspective from marketing, we just want to show that
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people taking the two days or a day to come out to the show to experience it.
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They get everything. They can take everything away. They can take everything to their clinics.
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So sorry about that. That's fine. Yeah. A little bit nervous over here.
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But yeah, so from our perspective is that they walk away with something different
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when they attend the event. You know what I mean? They can see all the exhibitors.
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We've got an amazing lineup of speakers.
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And also we have where they can see, where they can meet people and have book signings.
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Oh, book signings as well. That sounds good. We've got book signings.
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We've got to meet the speakers. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this year I'll run you through all the new stuff.
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But even the rebrand you know just changing getting away from that pink and
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blue you know it's a internal joke that the gender reveal branding that we had previously,
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i just every time i went onto the website i just thought oh whereas now we've
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got this movement imagery we've got you know the color,
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i was a bit unsure at first if i'm if i'm truly honest i was a bit unsure but
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But I think what Keanu and his team have been able to do with it.
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Yeah, I personally really like it.
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I think it's exciting. I think it's new, a bit more vibrant than it was.
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And yeah, Keanu, you know, he's been working really hard. He's had a lot to
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play with with the rebrand as well, with the new fonts and colors and imagery.
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You're having a lot of freedom, which is nice.
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Excellent. Give us, you started saying there, like some of the things you're most excited about.
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But imagine there's somebody who's been, a lot of our listeners,
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because of especially STA members,
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we kind of big it up a lot and we try to encourage people to book ahead,
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take advantage of the £49 offers and stuff, get your accommodation sorted out,
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meet up with other people, do an Airbnb.
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There's lots of ways to make the conference far more accessible.
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And you guys added to that with your £49 deal, which obviously people can't take advantage of now.
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But although there are still deals which we'll talk about towards the end of the show,
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For somebody who has been to the last kind of four or five and they're thinking,
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oh, what am I going to go on again?
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It's going to be the same speakers doing this and that and the same theatres.
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What would you say to those people that's going to be different this year?
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What would make them go, oh, wow, that sounds different? For me.
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I mean, where do I start? So feature-wise, we've got so many new features.
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And just to bear in mind, we respond to the feedback we get.
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So last year for example the feedback that was that as clinic owners or business
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owners they want more business content,
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you know right let's launch a business and practice leadership theater so we
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have a designated theater that's dedicated to business content,
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so there's stuff about marketing in there how to run a business using tiktok
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which i could actually do with going to,
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loads around AI and the virtual reality and using ChatGPT to create content
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and so we've responded to that we've got a dedicated theatre for business,
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we have an enclosed space called the studio for years everyone's been wanting the CPR sessions back,
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finally you know we've got Lubus back doing the CPR practical workshops and.
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You can also get a discount on the online course that you can do before the show.
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So having a ticket gets you a discount of the online course.
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But you can have practical CPR workshops, experiences at Therapy Show.
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We've got Meet the Speakers, another thing everyone's wanted to do.
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So after a session, you've got more questions or you just want to have a chat
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with one of our speakers.
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Lo and behold, go to the Meet the Speakers section.
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We've got book signings. we've got the speakers as well they're never the same,
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we never have the same speakers and sorry,
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the same speakers come back but what I mean is the content's different we never
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have the same content we're very respondent to what is going on in the industry,
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and none of us are industry specialists you know we work with our advisory board
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our education committee day-to-day chit chat with delegates you know what are
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you working on what do you need more knowledge in what what can we do to get you there?
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And we do, we've responded to all of this feedback.
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And I think for me, the most...
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I guess, attractive offering at therapy show is the fact that it's so multidisciplinary.
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So, you know, it's not just if you're a physiotherapist, for example,
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you're not just going to be in a room with physiotherapists,
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you're going to be brushing shoulders with sports therapists,
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chiropractors, osteopaths, we've got the military involved.
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Premier League sports clubs come to the event, heads of medicals,
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Bupa, you know, all the clinicians that work under Bupa, Nuffield Health,
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Ramsey Healthcare, the English National Ballet Senior Leadership Team usually come to the event.
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And we've got all these different people with so much knowledge and the learning
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and networking that can happen.
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I think for me, that's really the most special part of the event.
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And, you know, with the experience of being amongst peers that genuinely have
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the same interest as you.
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I don't know if you've got anything to add, Keanu. What sells it to you?
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I guess it's just showing everyone the different perspective from the show you
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know what I mean getting everyone involved getting everyone engaged instead
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of just sitting down on a chair
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not taking part you know what I mean we've got exhibitors that are doing live
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demonstrations actually testing out the products you know what I mean getting your hands,
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how can I say dirty you know what I mean actually first person to be a product
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tester you know they're coming out to test the market. It hasn't been released.
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You are going to be the person to see it first or to trial it out or to take it to your clinic.
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So I think that's, that's for me, the coolest thing, getting to see everything
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new first before anyone else.
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Fantastic. All sounds pretty good. We mentioned as well back in March that for
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people who have been before, they'll be familiar that the floor was divided
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up into the occupational therapy show
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and then therapy expo, therapy show, and the other side this year.
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That's not going on, is there? You won't have people moving through from one
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to the other? It's going to be kind of... We've built a wall.
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The wall's been built. Trump will be so proud.
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Yeah. We've built a wall up. No, it's... We've...
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I think with the growth of Therapy Show being so great, it does deserve to be
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an event in its own right.
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And, you know, of course, it's...
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I, again, more honestly from me, I don't think it's fair that occupational therapists
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were able to attend therapy show for free because the OT show is of course free for OTs to attend.
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So OTs if they do want to attend therapy show they will have to purchase a ticket and they they have been.
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Sorry to interrupt there's is there I think I asked this last time is there
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a special discount for people who want to go into both shows or for OTs who
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do want to go to therapy show can they kind of upgrade or do Do you get to just
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pay the same price for a ticket? Same price for a ticket.
24:23
There isn't a special price for OTs, no.
24:27
It's the same price for everyone. So again, you know, they did benefit from
24:30
the £49 price in December and January.
24:33
And there has been a price increase as the year's gone on.
24:37
But we're a show in our own right. So, yeah, it just means that everyone in
24:43
that room, it's very targeted.
24:45
You know, no one's just there for the sake of getting freebies and walking around for this, you know,
24:51
oh, can I have a massage or whatever, you know, people looking for everyone
24:55
that will be at therapy show is dedicated to their industry and there for a reason and a purpose.
25:02
Does that mean more floor space as well? Yeah. Yeah, we've grown again.
25:07
It's bigger. So there is more space. And to be honest, the reason we've taken
25:12
more space, part of the reason, is to make our theatres larger.
25:16
So we've now got 400 seats in Theatre A and Theatre B. Wow.
25:20
The Business and Practice Leadership Theatre from memory is 150 seats.
25:26
Our open-air workshops and practical theatres are much larger.
25:31
And if you've been before you you've obviously experienced the crowds and you
25:36
know maybe not being at the back of the crowd not being able to hear we have
25:39
tried to extend the theatres to make it more accessible get more bums on seats,
25:44
working harder with the av as well so more headsets being provided.
25:48
It is really difficult to accommodate you know everyone,
25:53
but we do try to make sure that you know if perhaps you aren't able to get into
25:56
one session there is another amazing session taking place and you know hopefully
26:01
there's space in that theater it's it's we're just trying to make it,
26:05
as a you know like a broken record we want the event to be as enjoyable as possible
26:09
i don't want anyone experiencing stress i want as much space and freedom more
26:13
seating areas the networking lounge is much larger than ever before as well,
26:19
fantastic i'm just thinking i'm going through my head of things which people
26:23
have kind of you know what people have delicates kindly suggest some improvements
26:27
that's how that's how they say isn't it they don't send you nasty emails or anything i'm sure but,
26:32
what about the apps what about kind of programs is there going to be an app
26:34
this year is that something people will be able to look at on their phone the
26:37
app is back it's back and keanu actually you know me i i mentioned on the last
26:43
one that i did with you matt,
26:44
i'm a show guide girl i like writing down i like having something visual and to flick through.
26:52
But, you know, not everyone is a show guide girly, as they say, a show guide person.
26:57
So Keanu is heading up the app and it's very cool. Very, very cool.
27:03
Tell us about it, Keanu. What are people going to like about the app?
27:05
They're going to be able to find their sessions a lot easier.
27:08
They're going to be able to schedule it. So just to say they have two sessions
27:12
which are similar at the same time, it'll be able to notify you to let you know
27:17
that these sessions are clashing. So you should be able to attend either one. which is really nice.
27:24
There's a lot of good features for exhibitors also for our delegates to interact with them.
27:29
And also, I enjoy it. We also have a website version for those that don't feel
27:35
like downloading the app. I know that that's an entry with some people which is also really nice.
27:41
Is this Android and iPhone? Are people going to be accessing it?
27:43
Yes, Android and iPhone.
27:45
Okay, sounding good. That's quite a few tick boxes, I think.
27:47
Don't forget, if you are joining us live we'd love to hear, is your chance to
27:50
go, What about this? Is there going to be this?
27:52
Have your moan. Do it now. Because there's still time. I'm sure they can change
27:56
the app if they want. Keanu's here. If you need the app tweaked, he's got 10 weeks.
28:00
He's got time to change it. Whatever you want. We can change it with branding, if you like.
28:05
Yeah. Back to third for the expo, we can do that. But you need to let us know.
28:08
Let's have a look in the comments just in case.
28:11
Oh, here we go. This is from Nikki Mansfield. Hey, Nikki, how you doing? Nikki says, yes.
28:16
High five. The app was so promising the year before last. It wasn't perfect,
28:20
but I definitely missed it last year.
28:22
Wicked. See, I knew there would be people cheering that. There was,
28:25
I'm just going to go back to Leslie who had a question here.
28:30
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Quick question for expo guys. You mean the show guys.
28:34
Will anyone be selling the Omni 360 face cradle at the expo?
28:39
Now warning for fellow therapists, it will trigger a total need to buy.
28:43
Is there going to be any who might be selling apparatus like that for massage?
28:47
Yeah, massage table or plint. I don't.
28:51
Now I met this, Leslie, if I've got an exhibitor that is coming with that and
28:56
I say no, I'm in big trouble.
28:59
I don't think we have an exhibitor bringing that as far as I know.
29:04
But what I would say as a counter, head to have a look at Lojer,
29:11
L-O-J-E-R, who are bringing the Manutera.
29:15
Bed that that I mean I had a go on it and it does absolutely everything it's
29:21
it's insane obviously I'm not a clinician,
29:23
and you guys know more than me but the feedback that I was hearing when I saw
29:28
them at FIBO earlier this year was nuts,
29:32
and yeah they got a really good response so as far as I'm aware we don't have
29:36
the Omni 360 I will be calling them first thing tomorrow morning,
29:40
to see if they want to stand and i will update in the chat tomorrow if the feedback
29:46
if they do decide to join us but yeah i would definitely recommend having a lawyer
29:51
the manutera plint because it's pretty mega and using the word again very good.
29:58
In my opinion brilliant thanks for the questions people if you've got any other
30:02
questions then do let us know let's you mentioned there's some cool guests going.
30:07
I suppose really, particularly for a lot of therapists who are into the pain
30:11
science and everything, then we should kind of blow the trumpet a little bit
30:15
out that this particular pain science legend is coming.
30:19
Dr. Laura Mamosley, well coming, I say, it's going to be a live stream with
30:21
Dr. Laura Mamosley, which should just have a trumpet sound with it somewhere.
30:26
Yeah, let's do it actually. There is going to be Laura Mamosley live streaming at Therapy Show.
30:34
There you go. It's big. There you go.
30:44
Oh, we can't hear you very well, Matt. Can you not hear me? There we go.
30:49
Yeah, getting Lorna Mosley on the show for a lot of people will be,
30:52
oh, okay, wow, these people are serious.
30:54
They've got serious people listening to them. So that's really exciting.
30:57
And he's going to be, in case you listen to the podcast, that's going to be,
31:01
according to the program, on day two, which is Thursday, the 26th of November,
31:05
9.30 a.m., live streamed into Theatre A.
31:09
And that's going to be a presentation called The Limits of Pain Science in Real-World
31:13
MSK Practice, which is so cool because there's a lot of, well,
31:17
it depends what circles you move in, but there's a lot of,
31:20
you know what it's like, polarized debate, or Lorimer Moseley,
31:22
so old, or the things he was saying, so being disproved now.
31:25
But here's the guy himself saying, here you go, I'm going to talk about the
31:27
limits of pain science in real-world MSK practice. So that's a real forward-thinking
31:32
current topic he's going to be talking about.
31:34
And that's on day two, 9.30 a.m. I mean, for a lot of people,
31:37
that's going to be really impressive. You guys, I don't know how happy you are,
31:40
or if you realize how important that is.
31:42
I've heard, over the moon, over the moon. We get so much feedback about most
31:49
of the speakers actually this year.
31:51
And the themes, the session titles, we've had a lot of compliments.
31:57
So yeah, big, very, very happy. It is a big one. Not to take it away from all
32:02
the other speakers, but I think
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it's, I don't know, for anybody who's been following the pain science,
32:06
then for historically then that's kind of a big name for them to be involved
32:10
in this pretty cool kudos to you guys so that's fantastic and,
32:15
as i've mentioned laura finishes at 10 that's really cool because it gives people
32:18
time half an hour to get over to clinical skills lab,
32:22
to see me the other great speaker you've got happening that's at 10 30 a.m on
32:25
the same day so enjoy laura,
32:28
i'll be live not a live stream i'll be there in person that's kind of the difference
32:31
between me and dr mason but actually my my presentation there is part of something
32:35
which i wanted to talk to you guys about as well there's going to be.
32:40
One of the many things you're focusing on this year is trying to make the event
32:44
which is tricky but a little bit more accessible and looking at kind of the
32:47
topic of inclusion for neurodivergent practitioners is that something which
32:52
is tricky with 3 000 people coming but,
32:55
what have you managed to kind of do which might make it a little bit more inclusive
32:59
so from our perspective, we've tried a little bit to try and make it more inclusive
33:04
to the neurodivergence audience.
33:06
We've added hearing loops to every single theater, so everyone will be able to hear.
33:11
We've also added priority seatings to the front of every single theater,
33:15
so two priority seatings for those that either can't see or can't stand for
33:20
long or either need help or are pregnant.
33:23
And then also we'll also have wheelchair accessibility and seating in every
33:27
single theater. We've also made the aisles for every theater a lot bigger for
33:31
everyone that needs anything or walking with crutches or anything like that.
33:35
We also have a large print material at every single theater for those that aren't
33:40
able to see or read any of the material.
33:43
So we can have that. We've made sure that there is a quiet room for those that
33:48
need to just take a time out or just to go for a sensory overload.
33:52
We've also made sure that for those that have like medicine or that are like
33:55
diabetic, they need to store something in a cold refrigerator.
33:58
We also have that where they can store their medicines on site.
34:02
We also have made sure that there is like with regards to, we have also,
34:09
sorry, we're also allowing people to carry support, to bring support people
34:13
with them into the event so they can also assist with regards to that.
34:17
That's amazing. I mean, you've just trotted out 13 really significant,
34:20
important things, which many other events can't even manage two or three. That's incredible.
34:26
That's all of them. You can speak for an hour about all of those.
34:29
That's really significant. And I know from my Facebook group that a lot of those
34:33
things have been requested and from everything you've talked about,
34:37
the seating positions, the bigger room in the aisles, the priority seats,
34:41
the headphones, the larger print. That's brilliant.
34:44
Well done. That sounds really, really cool. Really promising.
34:47
And I think it's important. I think Liam said in March, it is at the end of
34:50
the day, an event with 3000 people coming in and out.
34:53
So it's tricky. But the fact you've got the, I know last year people were a
34:57
bit surprised to find out there was a quiet room.
35:00
And I know a lot of people would have loved to have known it and it sounds like
35:03
you guys have realised that it wasn't very well signposted or something but
35:06
this year it'll be easy to find, I take it. Loads of messaging.
35:11
I think we just lose sight of the fact that, you know, I've worked in events
35:18
for over 10 years now and I do sometimes forget. I just assume that everyone knows. Yeah.
35:27
Even our adverts, you know, therapy show, this date, buy a ticket.
35:34
What is therapy show? Wait, am I welcome? And, you know, we do need to work
35:40
on being, well, I think we have. This year we focused on being much clearer.
35:44
And, yeah, the messaging around exactly what facilities are available to everyone
35:49
is a massive priority for us.
35:51
Signage on site included in that.
35:54
Yes. Sounds really cool. and it's all part of the fact that we've talked about
35:59
this so much in the show obviously i'm biased being autistic myself and that
36:02
and it's kind of an ugly chat with you guys we've talked with other people but,
36:06
it's all of these changes you make don't just help,
36:10
the person who's being diagnosed with something it just helps everybody because
36:13
you're looking at individual changes which will affect people who will just
36:17
benefit from it all you know no one's going to go oh not large print again that's
36:20
really annoying exactly of course they're not no one's gonna go wow,
36:23
this aisle is way too wide.
36:24
I'm not in a wheelchair. I don't need it. Come on, it's just like it's accessibility
36:29
is what it's supposed to be.
36:31
No one complains about a ramp on a shop to let wheelchairs in if there's steps
36:35
as well. It's just, it's really cool. It sounds really well done. It sounds really cool.
36:39
On that topic, I just want to quickly let people know, where are we?
36:43
841 of a couple of presentations we've got, which kind of tie in with all of that.
36:48
Let me just bring this up. So like I said, I joked about you having half an
36:51
hour but you have got half an hour after after Dr.
36:54
Lorna mostly finishes but if you go over to.
36:58
The clinical skills lab I'll be on at 10 30 and I'll be giving a talk called,
37:04
changing the room not the person neurodiversity and MSK clinical practice details
37:08
of this will be in the show notes obviously and it's on the screen at the moment
37:11
for those of you watching YouTube but essentially,
37:14
to give you in a nutshell I'll be using my own experience of being autistic
37:18
together with information I'm doing on a MA inclusion at University of Birmingham,
37:22
to kind of show you guys how...
37:25
Often in healthcare, we focus our attempts to help people when they come to
37:29
see us in our clinic, which means our environment with our way of working and
37:33
our rules and our way of communicating,
37:36
and research and evidence and everything is heading towards now understanding
37:40
how important the environment is and how sometimes modifying what we think works
37:45
and how the way we speak, modifying that to suit the person in front of us can
37:50
really get better outcomes.
37:51
So it'll be again a lot of it will tie in with if you are working with a neurodivergent
37:55
individual but it's it's essentially we're looking at how to really create proper
38:00
person-centered care because you'll be asking the individual is this okay if
38:04
you is this musical right,
38:05
when you get to what clinic do you need a quiet place to sit down,
38:08
just questions which don't come naturally because we're taught to be the giver
38:13
and the operator and we'll put this on because everyone loves whale music or
38:16
everybody loves this everybody loves uh to lie down on the couch under a bright
38:19
light it makes and feel like instead we're going to ask the client stuff.
38:22
So that's what I'll be talking about, which I'm very excited about.
38:24
That'll be 10, 13, day two.
38:26
And then also on day one, 11.45, I'm going to be joined by three fantastic neurodivergent
38:33
educators, Sarah Mihag, Rosie Sexton, and James Dua Haggart, who are all.
38:39
Also admins in my Facebook group.
38:42
And we're together going to be putting together a panel debate called Beyond
38:45
Awareness, Neuroaffirmative Practice, and MSK Care,
38:48
which again yes it's going to give you lots of ideas and tips on how to be more
38:54
neuroaffirmative how to not see it as a deficit but just see it as a way of
38:57
helping people with a different way of looking and perceiving stuff,
39:01
but as i said before it'll just help you become more patient centered and you'll
39:04
end up just providing a more individualized care which is essentially what we all need to do,
39:08
so yeah there's a couple of things which if you are interested in that topic
39:11
and i think the fact that they're on there and that therapy show have been graceful
39:14
enough to let me put in a couple of pieces like that just shows how forward
39:18
and progressive you guys are
39:19
and how you're helping the community whatever community all communities.
39:23
And if you are listening to that and thinking that sounds really cool and you
39:26
are a neurodivergent practitioner, then come along to the Facebook group,
39:29
Neurodivergent Practitioners in Health and Care. Just look it up on Facebook.
39:33
It is for neurodivergent practitioners. So there are a few questions there,
39:37
but it's all kind of a psychologically safe place for you guys to hang out and
39:40
ask us questions and to show experiences. So there we go.
39:44
Sorry for interrupting this show, but there's information. It does all tie in.
39:47
Excellent. Yeah, yeah. I think it's just great that you guys are giving us that platform.
39:51
So really excited about that. thank you guys for giving me that and and yeah.
39:57
So where are we 844 what else are we excited about the msk stream mentioned
40:02
before it's very multidisciplinary,
40:05
but that means that there's a space for everybody you've got some great speakers
40:09
in the msk stream give us a little
40:11
idea of who you've got coming along you're excited about yeah the msk stream
40:15
is led by dr amanda and dr sharon so which we're super excited about that they've
40:20
given such great feedback and they've really helped us put together this,
40:24
the stream and also the content with regards behind it so we're super excited
40:29
about that and people are able to earn like 12 cpd points over the two days.
40:34
Uh which is really really really good and then from that we have,
40:40
we have a lot of sessions i think it is six sessions we have professor roger
40:44
kerry that will also be delivering test A lovely, lovely speaker,
40:48
which he's super excited about.
40:50
But he's on the 26th of November, so that will be the Thursday.
40:54
And then we've got none other than Uzo delivering a great session on the Wednesday.
41:02
That's a big one for strength and rehab and strength and conditioning and all
41:06
that sort of stuff. Yeah, that's a huge name.
41:08
Sorry, who else? Adam Dobson, you said? Yeah, amazing.
41:12
You've got some great names. And all of these people, for me,
41:15
knowing that I've known them for a long time, kind of going back to 213,
41:19
they all do so represent multidisciplinary care.
41:23
You know, last year, Uzo and Matt Lowe and a couple other people were involved in this.
41:28
Great presentation about multidisciplinary care of guiding somebody through
41:32
the whole process from the subjective and there's kind of a philosophical look
41:36
at what the subjective should be and then there was ooze over this stuff and it was brilliant,
41:40
so that's so cool you've got that going that sounds like again just an evolution
41:43
of what worked last year very exciting.
41:47
The msk stream is taking place in theater b,
41:51
mainly and it's got a dedicated section on the website so if you're interested to look at the sessions,
41:56
specifically all the information is on the website but yeah it's the the part
42:02
is really difficult because i get asked by keanu most days you know right we've
42:06
got you know let's do some highlights who should we highlight and i'm like i don't know everyone,
42:11
we've got you know jack chew is has got joe gibson doing a session with her
42:16
like a what is it joe gibson shoulder and that physio matters live on stage
42:20
in theater to a camera marshall,
42:23
from complete concussions doing loads of stuff around concussions mike rice
42:28
chris norris daniel lawrence uh coming back to do some amazing sessions anna maria of course.
42:36
Where would i be where would i be anna maria she'll be there kate williams is
42:41
doing some sessions obviously kiani mentioned ouzo yeah you can download the
42:45
program on the conference page so So click on the conference page and you can
42:49
literally download the PDF,
42:51
of the conference.
42:53
The app will be released soon, so you'll have access to see the program on the app very, very soon.
42:58
But yeah, like I said, the speaker lineup, Matt, obviously, you're on there
43:02
and up there is always popular. Got to be early to your session.
43:06
It's just there's so much to see. And of course, everyone can upgrade and get
43:12
the session recordings.
43:15
So anything you miss, you can actually go back and get the sessions anyway.
43:18
So you don't miss anything. Very cool. That's new. I didn't know about that.
43:21
Tell us a little bit more about that.
43:22
That's really cool. Another thing we do every year.
43:25
But again, we just don't shout about it enough. We kind of assume that,
43:29
you know, everyone that talks to Salah on the phone, our lovely Delegate Telesales
43:33
lady, we just assume that everyone knows about it.
43:37
You can actually, I think it's £20, Keanu, to upgrade your ticket and you get
43:42
the recordings from every single session.
43:45
Really audio recordings audio recordings and visuals so the presentations yeah
43:52
the slides wow that's cool unless the speaker of course has ticked the box saying
43:56
they do not want their slides being shared.
43:59
Just in case any speakers are watching the show and they're worried about that,
44:03
I don't think any have so far touch wood unless of course they've ticked that box but,
44:08
usually everyone's pretty happy to have their sessions because it's part of
44:13
the therapy show ticket upgrade.
44:16
Sounds good. Sounds amazing.
44:17
Okay. Well, we've already kind of touched on prices. What do we,
44:20
sadly people, okay, don't come at us now going, we didn't know about the 49 pound offer.
44:24
There was about three shows. We had these guys on at the end of the last year
44:27
saying, get your ticket now. We've done it in March and we're doing it.
44:30
So yeah, you've missed the 49 pound people, but there are, what offers have
44:34
we got on now for people who are thinking, okay, I need to go and see these people.
44:39
What offers are we on? So for all STA members, the current offer is £149 plus VAT.
44:46
As the original ticket price is £199 plus VAT and after the 25th of September
44:51
the ticket prices will increase to £299, so £300.
44:56
Okay, right. And if you are,
45:00
In the STA, you want to get a hold of that discount, then just go to the STA
45:03
members page and you'll see the details there. Or you can send an email,
45:07
the normal email address for STA.
45:09
And if you're with another professional association, then do make sure.
45:12
This is why the idea of being part of a professional association,
45:15
the idea is that they are looking out for you and helping you get to these events
45:19
for a little bit cheaper than because you're part of the association. So, yeah. So, look out.
45:24
Us we've got various you know codes and and everything because the full price
45:28
ticket is one 199 pounds at the moment but there's various different codes even
45:33
on our website there's a pop-up that comes up to bring the ticket price to 169 equally,
45:40
we'll obviously give you guys the number of sala if,
45:45
anything at all so group discounts if you and a colleague or more than one other
45:49
colleague want to attend call sala up because she can do you special rates you
45:53
know it's important to us to make it as accessible as possible.
45:57
I'm not going to sit here and tell you that's the price and if you can't afford it then don't come.
46:02
No, there's no chance in hell we do that.
46:05
Salah can definitely help out as much as possible. Equally, we do one-day passes.
46:09
So calling Salah over the phone, she can accommodate where needed.
46:14
That's cool. I'm not sure how popular it was last year, but I know a lot of
46:16
people have said to me, I wish I could just go for one day and you do offer that.
46:20
So we'll make sure Salah's phone number goes in the show notes.
46:24
But if you are listening to the podcast and you've got a pen or paper or maybe
46:28
a stylus to make it a little bit modern, then type in this number. it's 02086 184 884.
46:37
So that's 02086 184 884.
46:42
Speak to Salah and then yeah, let them know what the deal is one day or the group membership.
46:47
If there's any other reason which you've got where you can't afford the ticket,
46:50
then that's the person to talk to. Exciting.
46:53
Marvellous. I mean, if you're an STA member and you're not sure about accommodation
46:57
and stuff like that, if you have left it to a little bit last minute dot com, that's fine.
47:00
I'm not going to judge you for that but i just want to put some support in place
47:04
if you have and you're struggling then just reach out to the sta airbnbs are
47:08
still available you may well find there's four other people struggling you can get a lovely little
47:13
how i say a nice big house this is which is what we do a lot of the speakers
47:17
do as well you can get somewhere that's like 50 minute drive away
47:21
and for a reasonable price if there's five of you in there and have a nice meal
47:24
and it can turn it into a great event let the accommodation be part of the show okay that's it yeah.
47:31
That's 2027 there now,
47:34
brilliant fine that's it look at us we're 852 is there anything else you feel
47:40
that we should mention for our wonderful listeners on the podcast or people who join us live.
47:48
I would urge everyone to go and look at the program on the website uh you know,
47:53
i can throw out names that come to the top of my mind but equally we have so
47:57
many practical workshops vivo barefoot,
48:00
are coming back and doing they're amazing you know everyone shoes and socks
48:04
off workshop around being barefoot.
48:08
Yeah there's there's so much and even the from an exhibitor perspective,
48:12
the the offering that's there this year is crazy you know we've got some some
48:18
products that have blown my mind you know just hearing about them and seeing
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them as well when I've met out with people,
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yeah there's special offers and discounts being given out at the event,
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which you know is,
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perfect if if you've got a supplier that you buy off every year come to therapy
48:36
show and actually get a bit more of a discount through being there,
48:41
but yeah check out the program would be my biggest advice check out the exhibitor
48:44
list and and make sure you're signed up to the newsletters and following our
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social media because we're we're hammering updates every day we have a new update,
48:55
it's yeah it's really really exciting,
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that's great yes i was going to say therapy show on social media it's all wonderful
49:03
now it's pretty much therapy show everywhere so you want to go the website therapy
49:06
show.co.uk you want to go instagram therapy show
49:09
facebook therapy show the only one is twitter which i'm proud to say now i'm
49:13
not proud but i'm happy to say that is therapy show uk you've got a capital uk at the end,
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so that's great great use of social media,
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i remember back in 2000 and.
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I want to say maybe 15. This shows how old it was. There was a competition of,
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who could get the most hits on hashtags.
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So the hashtag was like TherapyExpo214 or something. And I won it.
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I got it. I got an Amazon voucher for £100. Well done. I wish you did it again.
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Just for, I don't know whether tags are so popular these days.
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But yeah, it just goes back. Because that was a revolutionary thing, hashtag.
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And we were all there all day long. It was me against Jack Chew.
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If she swears I cheated, I just beat him at the end.
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You know what you got to do exactly jack i'm sorry mate you know.
49:58
Anyway so yeah that was that was a good time so right thank you so much again
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charlotte and kiana giving it your time,
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it's all very exciting but like you say people have a look at the program now
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it's 10 weeks to go don't arrive on the day go right what is there because believe
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me you'll just get bamboozled with so much and you'll feel like you've lost
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out because you'll just be looking at what you haven't got time to look at.
50:19
So set your kind of itinerary now. You can always change on the day,
50:23
but don't just arrive the day. Go, right, what have we got? Because it's just too much.
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Okay. There's way too much. Have a little look now with 10 weeks to go and just
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arrive a bit more relaxed. You can always tweak it there.
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Fine. Thank you so much everyone for joining us. Thank you for people who joined
50:37
us live and for the questions.
50:39
If you are listening to podcasts and you do have a question,
50:41
then my advice would be go along to the Sports Therapy Association YouTube channel,
50:45
and leave a question on there.
50:47
Okay, we monitor that and there's more of a shelf life than on Facebook.
50:50
So leave a comment question there and then we will get back to you.
50:53
If it's a question I need to fire at Charlotte or Keanu, then I'll let them
50:56
know and then we'll respond on the YouTube feed.
50:59
And don't let the conversation finish now. We've got 10 weeks to go.
51:03
Not next week or the week after, but as of then, from three weeks onwards,
51:06
we'll have guests, speakers from the show to come on and give you a little insight
51:09
of what they'll be doing.
51:11
If that an interest, actually, if there is any particular speaker you see on
51:14
the program who you'd like us to get on the show, if you give me enough notice,
51:17
we can do, we can maybe do something about that if you'd like to get on the show.
51:20
So send matt at the sta.co.uk who you'd like to see as a guest on this show,
51:24
and I will do my best to contact them and get them on here to give you a little
51:27
insight of what they'll be talking about and that sort of stuff.
51:30
Right. That's it. Episode 300 done. Wow. That's it. 301 next week.
51:40
Thanks again, everybody. I suppose I should say thank you for everybody.
51:42
Double thank you for making it to us to help us get to 300, particularly those who join us live.
51:48
I wouldn't do these if they weren't live. We'd never get around to it.
51:50
I wouldn't be able to organize it. I haven't got the executive functioning.
51:53
Live is easy. I could just do boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And I've proved it. 300. Bam. Yeah.
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Well done you. Yeah. Well done you. Kind of a close. Thank you very much.
52:01
So there we go. So yeah, if you do listen to podcasts, and I appreciate that
52:05
as well, but the one thing you do need to do is just like it and leave a rating
52:09
or review or something, because that really helps.
52:12
If someone puts in therapy show or someone puts in MSK conference,
52:16
then this will appear higher up as long as you put a rating and a review.
52:20
It's the way it works. Okay, so please do on your favorite podcast app on YouTube.
52:25
Don't just say, that was a really good show.
52:27
Do something about it. Leave a rating and review. it's so important it doesn't
52:30
cost anything apart from your time which i know is valuable but we're talking
52:33
about 60 seconds so please do that for us
52:36
just have a quick check for any final comments gary benson founder of the sta
52:40
has said thanks charlotte and kiana for updating us i look forward to seeing
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you in november i'm looking forward to that too as well looking forward seeing
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you guys that's gonna be great one for me one of the
52:50
best that there's so many best things about therapy show but it's so nice just
52:54
to maintain that face-to-face thing so
52:56
yeah that's Sort of looking forward to just being in the same room as people
52:58
who we see on social media.
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Right, I'm going on again now. Thanks, people. We'll be back next week with
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episode 301 with a special episode
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on stomas, being aware of them and what you can do as a soft tissue therapist
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because you could well find yourself somebody who has got that,
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who's recovering from it.
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And do you know what to do? You will if you listen to next week's episode.
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Thanks, Charlotte. Thanks, Keanu. Thank you. Thank you so much.
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We'll speak again soon. No worries at all. Take care, people.