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Hour Two | Gordy, Ross, & the SEC Coaching Chaos · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Santa's Little Helpers from jacob Hester and are taking over
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  Speaker 1: for some naughty and nice sports talk this Christmas season
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  Speaker 1: live from studio. Here's jacob Hester and.
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  Speaker 2: Mat from Well Done line Christopher.
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  Speaker 3: That might be better than the Halloween one. Halloween's good.
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  Speaker 3: The robot was good. I wasn't expecting that.
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  Speaker 4: Though that was really good. That was good and it's
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  Speaker 4: the banger of song. Though well done? Well done? Why
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  Speaker 4: would we get doings?
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  Speaker 5: New?
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  Speaker 4: What? What change?
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  Speaker 6: Keep the just keep the holiday on?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, keep holiday ones? How you can put those together
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  Speaker 7: so fast? Because we talked about it at six fifty
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  Speaker 7: this morning.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was all right, we got ten minutes. I
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  Speaker 6: mean the song like that, it's already done. I just
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  Speaker 6: have to replace T Bob and the last sponsor.
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  Speaker 4: Mm hmm. I bet I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I hadn't obviously we're on the same time tea Bob is,
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  Speaker 3: but I bet he is peacocky around barstool today.
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  Speaker 4: I bet him and Megan making money or levitating.
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  Speaker 6: I haven't seen T Bob on Twitter, but I've seen
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  Speaker 6: Meghan and she is.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, there's g let's get your We were sure if
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  Speaker 3: she was going to join us tonight, GORDI rush shout
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  Speaker 3: out to our guys to brave the.
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  Speaker 4: Weather in Norman, Oklahoma. Now, I was trying.
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  Speaker 3: I was trying to get him to close the old
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  Speaker 3: window they're in the broadcast booth.
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  Speaker 5: Didn't.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't get that done.
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  Speaker 3: But it's okay because uh, Gordy had to sit there
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  Speaker 3: in those elements and he had to watch that.
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  Speaker 4: The offense from Grapple was just really unlucky turn of
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  Speaker 4: events for that offense.
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  Speaker 5: Gorse wanted both teams to run the football so we
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  Speaker 5: could get out of there. I mean, it was a
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  Speaker 5: beautiful day until every about two minutes.
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  Speaker 4: In a gust.
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  Speaker 3: I know it was all in pregame. You know the
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  Speaker 3: machine that shoots the punts, right, the Jack's machine. I
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  Speaker 3: knew when they were trying to do that and get
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  Speaker 3: that done, and every time they shot it it would
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  Speaker 3: end up in the crowd because of the wind. I
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  Speaker 3: was like, oh, this could be a tough day because
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  Speaker 3: I mean, neither one of those quarterbacks it's not going
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  Speaker 3: to be able to push it through the wind.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Josh Allen not out there, so.
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  Speaker 7: I know you're not like real experience with too much
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  Speaker 7: cold weather, so like, what's your go to like attire,
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  Speaker 7: so how do you prepare to got not.
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  Speaker 5: True for Green Bay. But we played at Iowall once
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  Speaker 5: it was a negative three, and then I played at
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  Speaker 5: Northwestern Fair, which was two blocks from Lake Michigan, and
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  Speaker 5: that was the first time I ever got hit in
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  Speaker 5: cold weather and it's stung, so I didn't really want
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  Speaker 5: to come on the field. We have those Packers jersey
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  Speaker 5: and the hand warmers, the Packers jackets, yeah, those big jackets.
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  Speaker 4: But not a whole lot of use, not a lot
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  Speaker 4: of experience.
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  Speaker 5: I like you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking about the game g right before
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  Speaker 3: you came on, and you know, I know we'll get
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  Speaker 3: to all the link if of stuff that is the
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  Speaker 3: main storyline. But we were like, it would be disrespectful
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  Speaker 3: not to talk about the defensive performance and what they
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  Speaker 3: did and they were going to have to be perfect,
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  Speaker 3: and they had one play where they weren't perfect and
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  Speaker 3: it was the difference in the game. But still a
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  Speaker 3: great performance by the defense giving you at least an
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  Speaker 3: opportunity there to win.
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  Speaker 5: Incredible, incredible performance. There are two plays, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the perfect call Oklahoma has that little slip
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  Speaker 5: screen and you get the blitz and then you know
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  Speaker 5: they were playing some sort of zone thirds and I
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  Speaker 5: think DJ Pickett didn't get the call and he squatted
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  Speaker 5: on that side and the wide receiver in right past him.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, at that point, Corey and Blake, what
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  Speaker 5: do you say to DJ Pickett? You really can't jump
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  Speaker 5: as we're ends. As well as he's played this year,
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  Speaker 5: you know, they realized that it was a bust. And
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  Speaker 5: it's a shame. It's a shame. They played well enough
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  Speaker 5: to win, played well enough to win a couple times
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  Speaker 5: this year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they did.
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  Speaker 3: And we were talking about right before you came on,
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  Speaker 3: if you could pair everything you're getting now on offense
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  Speaker 3: with what you already have on defense. I mean, you're
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  Speaker 3: talking about one of the top scoring offenses in the country.
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  Speaker 3: You're talking about an LSU defense that is fourth in
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  Speaker 3: the SEC, only giving up eighteen points per game.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, on paper, it looks the part.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a headshaker. No, let's you guys talk more
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  Speaker 5: because you're offensive guys. I mean, if not Smart's healthy,
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  Speaker 5: what happens this season? Right? I mean, he's able to
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  Speaker 5: stretch the football field at ole Miss. I mean there's
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  Speaker 5: wide receivers running wide open.
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  Speaker 7: If the offense just looks like a shadow of itself
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  Speaker 7: I did a year ago, and I can't blame that
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  Speaker 7: completely on that injury. Like the foundation x's and o's
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  Speaker 7: of this offense were just so flawed from the beginning,
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  Speaker 7: and you've seen it now. They're trying to they're trying
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  Speaker 7: to they're trying to implement some new stuff on obviously
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  Speaker 7: they tried to.
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  Speaker 5: It's just you guys are offensive guys. To me, last
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  Speaker 5: year looked like what Joe Slone wanted to do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and it was more pass oriented, less run. But it
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  Speaker 5: was one thought. This year just was too many cooks
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  Speaker 5: in the kitchen.
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  Speaker 4: Gosh.
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  Speaker 5: And it was just a collection of plays. It did
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  Speaker 5: a scrow. It was just stuf.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And the receiver screens was wild because they weren't like
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  Speaker 3: Matt talks about this often. They weren't like real receiver
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  Speaker 3: screens like you saw Oklahoma. You got a blitz, you
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  Speaker 3: play the blitz with the ball and a screen. You
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  Speaker 3: got two linemen out front tunnel screen and then like
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  Speaker 3: l shoes were hey, we're gonna throw it to a
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  Speaker 3: receiver and hope he wins the one on one and
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  Speaker 3: gets as much arts as he gay.
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  Speaker 5: You tell me, Matt, when you get to the line
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  Speaker 5: of scrimmage and you've got all you know, you've got
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  Speaker 5: trips out there and all three DB's are squatting, right,
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  Speaker 5: at some point, you gotta be able to check out
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  Speaker 5: of that, right, Yeah, there's there's I mean, I'm not
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  Speaker 5: gonna throw this. Throwing the screen in.
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  Speaker 4: The numbers, Yeah, it was. It was. It was banging
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  Speaker 4: your head on the wall.
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  Speaker 7: Frustrating for offensive people to watch the offensive play all
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  Speaker 7: year because of decisions like that they had. They had
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  Speaker 7: rps when there shouldn't be rps, which which affected the
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  Speaker 7: lineman block into the second level. And you have, you
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  Speaker 7: have your answer. So every place should have an answer
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  Speaker 7: to it. Every run place should have an answer to it,
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  Speaker 7: every pass place should have an answer to it. And
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  Speaker 7: it's usually but like there's different answers to every test,
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  Speaker 7: like it's and the answers made no sense. There was
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  Speaker 7: like you said, there's no there was no ability to
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  Speaker 7: check out. And even in this day and age, where
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  Speaker 7: like college teams looked at the sideline, like every time
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  Speaker 7: they looked at the sideline, the play that was called
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  Speaker 7: in or relayed in was usually wrong and uh, and
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  Speaker 7: it was just they were so you know, they got
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  Speaker 7: out of running plays early on so fast at any look,
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  Speaker 7: at any like deception that the box might not be cleaned,
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  Speaker 7: that the count might not be cleaned to the right
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  Speaker 7: side of the running.
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  Speaker 3: And that was all those timeouts that you saw where
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  Speaker 3: nuss Meyer and Brian Kelly would argue about it because
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  Speaker 3: he was saying, just run it. Just go out there
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  Speaker 3: and run it. It's not gonna be perfect. Sometimes Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: There was like, oh, well, the safety's kind of coming
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  Speaker 7: down or the the wheels, you know, shaded over the play.
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  Speaker 5: The plays were getting in too late, and there was
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  Speaker 5: no other you know how many times this year, Jake,
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  Speaker 5: I'm yelling play clock, you know, playlock nine. We're breaking
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  Speaker 5: the huddle. It's at nine. Yeah, you got a rookie
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  Speaker 5: quarterback in Van Buren that's on the road at Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 5: and you're gonna get him in the line of script
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  Speaker 5: to nine, knowing that he's got some sort of he's
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  Speaker 5: at least got to read half the field, got this
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  Speaker 5: play and half or do something. It was it was
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  Speaker 5: frustrating to watch this year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't have to worry about it anymore. No,
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  Speaker 4: we got Lane.
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  Speaker 3: No, and one thing, Lane's always, no matter where he's been,
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  Speaker 3: no matter what the situation, he can call a game.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: I mean one of, if not the best in college football.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy, You and I talked about it on the broadcast
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  Speaker 3: this year when we were doing the Old Miss game.
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  Speaker 3: We were like, Oh, he's gonna come back to that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh he's gonna he' setting that up. He's gonna come
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  Speaker 3: back to that, And every time he did, but you
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  Speaker 3: didn't know when it was gonna happen. And I remember
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  Speaker 3: like he utilized a tight end so much in our game,
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  Speaker 3: like that was the thing that he saw that he
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  Speaker 3: tried to exploit. And when they needed to close the game,
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  Speaker 3: I remember us both being like tight end, Like watch
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  Speaker 3: a tight end, and it was a unique way he
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  Speaker 3: got him free and boom, tight end game over.
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  Speaker 5: It was he set up all that misdirection and sneak
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  Speaker 5: the tight end out. Look for me watching Lane over
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  Speaker 5: the years, he's always scripted the first three or four
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  Speaker 5: series better than anybody. Yeah, I mean, unbelievable. Would I
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  Speaker 5: worried about for it was a good thing for L
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  Speaker 5: Shoe back to the Matt Crow years is that he
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  Speaker 5: got away from some of it and then he kind
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  Speaker 5: of freelanced a little bit. Yeah, it made more sense
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  Speaker 5: and more rhyme into things we talked about he's doing
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  Speaker 5: a to set up B and NC and things like
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  Speaker 5: that was more consistent what he's doing. So I think
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  Speaker 5: it would be fabulous. It's can fascinating. I should see
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  Speaker 5: the watch the moves he makes now and recruit him.
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  Speaker 5: We got what two days left.
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  Speaker 4: And there's a lot of movie going on, crazy, right,
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  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I guess see the good thing So Penn State when
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  Speaker 3: James Franklin leaves, they had seventeen guys dcommended, no doubt
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  Speaker 3: girl who's only had two two and he.
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  Speaker 5: Got people talking about flipping and then two old miss
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  Speaker 5: guys flipped out.
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  Speaker 3: And even like some of the ones that have flipped,
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  Speaker 3: like you kind of felt like they might not get
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  Speaker 3: to the finish line from Lshoe's perspective, like maybe maybe
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  Speaker 3: you should look elsewhere at least in one of them.
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  Speaker 3: And so like that staff's done a great job of
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  Speaker 3: keeping the whore together and the job that Frank's done
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  Speaker 3: and the entire assistant coaching staff over there, and so
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  Speaker 3: really right now, the good thing for Lane, he's got
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  Speaker 3: a top fifteen recruiting class and you saw him meet
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  Speaker 3: with the top guys. Lamar Brown's there, you know, in
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  Speaker 3: the office last night, and so I know that it's
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  Speaker 3: two days away, but at least the foundation was held
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  Speaker 3: together so well by the staff, and now Lane can
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  Speaker 3: kind of come in and be the closer, like you said,
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  Speaker 3: maybe get one or two guys that he committed at
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  Speaker 3: ole Miss.
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  Speaker 5: The gallon from Oklahoma was committed to Oklahoma over from
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  Speaker 5: Lafayette Christian. He decommitted. He was here. He actually saw
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  Speaker 5: a video come in last night. Like I said, it
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  Speaker 5: was a receiver and offensive lineman from Ole Miss that
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  Speaker 5: decommitted yesterday. So it's going to be a fast and
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  Speaker 5: furious forty eight hours. I know you guys are just
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  Speaker 5: you're twenty four to seven on the recruiting I'm joking.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, that's going over. I think the interesting and
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  Speaker 5: then you know what sort of quarterbacks. This is a
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  Speaker 5: different sort of quarterbacks which he's looking at. You know,
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  Speaker 5: there's all these rumors out there Seller is going to
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  Speaker 5: put himself in the transfer portal. You're going to get
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  Speaker 5: a top tier quarterback that wants to come. Chamberliss up
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  Speaker 5: at ole Miss has requested for another year. Yeah right,
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  Speaker 5: and hasn't been approved for that. So it's it's gonna
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  Speaker 5: be a fascinating month of December before we get to.
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  Speaker 4: The port Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: That's the thing about with this lane higher. It brings
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  Speaker 7: so much excitement from the offensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 7: You're gonna have You're gonna be able to cherry pick
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  Speaker 7: a quarterback in the transfer portal. You're certainly gonna be
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  Speaker 7: able to cherry pick quarterbacks out of high school just
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  Speaker 7: because of the recent success LSU's had with quarterback in
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  Speaker 7: two heismans in the last six years. And now you're
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  Speaker 7: gonna Addlane kit. I was just kind of looking at
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  Speaker 7: random Lane Kiffin's stats earlier and his last year at
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  Speaker 7: Florida Atlantic. His quarterback was Chris Robinson. Twenty nine of
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  Speaker 7: force two hundred and ninety one a four to seventy
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  Speaker 7: one for thirty seven hundred and one yards, twenty eight touchdowns,
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  Speaker 7: six interceptions.
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  Speaker 4: Florida Atlantic. Not bad, right, And.
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  Speaker 3: You know me, like I usually know everybody, I got
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  Speaker 3: no idea.
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  Speaker 4: Who that fell is?
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  Speaker 7: Chris Robinson? No, that was that was Lane's third year.
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  Speaker 7: I think they went eleven and three. That kind of
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  Speaker 7: like sprung him into the old miss job. So take
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  Speaker 7: that and you look at the like we just brought
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  Speaker 7: up chamber It's like, who who's trying at Chamberlas.
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  Speaker 4: We said it before our game.
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  Speaker 7: I was like, I watched one game of him play
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  Speaker 7: and I'm like, I don't think he's that good. Like
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  Speaker 7: this first game playing, he just wasn't that good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: so that's why I went pretty heavy and like this,
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  Speaker 7: she was gonna win this game. The defense is too good. Well,
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  Speaker 7: every single week, kid got better and like I'm not
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  Speaker 7: talking about just like making plays on accident, like being
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  Speaker 7: able to be out athletic people and like someone pops open.
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  Speaker 7: I'm talking about reading one, first, second, third options, tacking
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  Speaker 7: the middle of the field. Like these things that he
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  Speaker 7: did better was absolute quarterback, professional type quarterback play got
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  Speaker 7: better and better every week. And you see that with
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  Speaker 7: Lane kiffin offenses, which is something that we should be
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  Speaker 7: really really excited about.
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  Speaker 5: I think for me, the question offensive side of the
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  Speaker 5: football is the offensive line. I mean this question we get,
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  Speaker 5: you know, are they struggling? Are they they they that bad?
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  Speaker 5: My answer has been No, yeah, to the to the
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  Speaker 5: point how much of it's skiing? Yeah, how much of
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  Speaker 5: it is what they're getting asked to do? And you
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  Speaker 5: guys played more off side of the fuck.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean you know this too though, Like
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  Speaker 3: and Matt pointed out immediately, like the RPO can be
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  Speaker 3: a change up, it can't be your foundation and your
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  Speaker 3: run game, right that gives the offensive line it's a
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  Speaker 3: roads a tool to use.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not a foundational thing. And scheme is like
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  Speaker 7: one thing. I think people over emphasize the words scheme
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  Speaker 7: a lot because it gets you brought it up already.
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  Speaker 7: The way he designs the first fifteen, the way he
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  Speaker 7: played calls like he's he's telling a story with his
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  Speaker 7: play gone, it's just as not like what we saw
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  Speaker 7: the LSU.
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  Speaker 4: Oh this, let's try this play, Let's try this, let's
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  Speaker 4: try this.
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  Speaker 7: Scheme is one thing, and his scheme is great, but
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  Speaker 7: the way you coach that scheme, Like I could take
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  Speaker 7: two teams that run the exact same place, one team
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  Speaker 7: might be ten times more successful because they do it better,
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  Speaker 7: Like they run their routes for more of a purpose.
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  Speaker 7: I saw LSU blocking their offensive line block this year
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  Speaker 7: with no real rhyme or reason to what they were doing.
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  Speaker 7: Like the coaching techniques they have on the top of
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  Speaker 7: their routes. How they're running steam routes versus cover three
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  Speaker 7: versus cover two, How they run a seam routes for
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  Speaker 7: vers cover one. How they're running comeback routes in different covers.
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  Speaker 7: What they're outside receiver. How how he's releasing versus cover
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  Speaker 7: two with an inside stick route. Like there's different things
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  Speaker 7: I think well coached, well coached schemes, Like I think
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  Speaker 7: the word scheme gets.
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  Speaker 4: You so much, but how it coached coaches.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, basically, there's only so many directions receiver can run,
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  Speaker 7: you guys, And.
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  Speaker 5: That's why I love this talk, because you guys are
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  Speaker 5: offensive guys. But I can tell you one of my
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  Speaker 5: favorite conversations was twenty eleven after LSU beat West Virginia
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  Speaker 5: and I had to do the Last Miles TV show
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  Speaker 5: for the first time, and so that meant least was
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  Speaker 5: going to take a good hour to shower and put
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  Speaker 5: a suit on and.
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  Speaker 4: All different than what we have now.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, I mean the horn's going
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  Speaker 5: off and yeah, and I sat downstairs a friend of
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  Speaker 5: a mutual friend between Dana Holgerson and I when sat
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  Speaker 5: down in Dana and then Shannon Dawson was the OC. Yeah, Hammond,
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  Speaker 5: who's down in Miami now, and you know we're talking
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  Speaker 5: ball and he's talked about that. You know how good
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  Speaker 5: Lsu was defensively, We never see that many big guys
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  Speaker 5: while blah blah, and I asked them some offensive questions,
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  Speaker 5: like Gordy, we really run six or seven plays and
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  Speaker 5: that's all that we run. But I can do five
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  Speaker 5: things out of them, but we run them over and
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  Speaker 5: over and over again, and you know, we had an
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  Speaker 5: eighth play, but we felt like it took too much
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  Speaker 5: time away. And I think that you know, that's when
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: you hear the simplicity of some of that stuff. So
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: many times people overthink offenses and just how sharp you know,
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: Ole Miss runs their stuff, Yeah, precise, And that was
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: a problem with La Shoe. I mean everything was clunky.
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: Every nothing smooth.
• 14:28
  Speaker 7: And that's the thing, Like, that's why people always have
• 14:30
  Speaker 7: success when they go two minutes before half, like they're like, well,
• 14:35
  Speaker 7: they haven't done anything all game. They just went down
• 14:37
  Speaker 7: the field. Well, because two minutes is day one install
• 14:39
  Speaker 7: and it's stuff that you repped rep repped Oklahoma hit
• 14:42
  Speaker 7: a big play because what do they what do you
• 14:43
  Speaker 7: do with the struggling offense? You get you up the tempo?
• 14:46
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah right, and you confuse the defense and you
• 14:48
  Speaker 7: run a base you're gonna he hit a seam route
• 14:50
  Speaker 7: like how many They probably ran that plate ten times
• 14:52
  Speaker 7: that game already, But you rushed.
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: And no one the primary route. I mean that was
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: he just came back to tier, did a nice shot.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: He saw it.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: And also the thing about Lanes offense that we've talked
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: about a ton here on the show when we're talking
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: about old mess, but certainly we'll get more into it.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: The thing I love about the run portion of it
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: is he wants to run the football and he's very
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: diverse in.
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: The run game.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: It's not going to be inside zone eighty nine percent
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: of the time. It's going to be power which LSU
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: football didn't run one this year, which is fascinating to me.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: We couldn't go a series without running a power when
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: we played counter, inside, outside zone, stretch lead, I mean,
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: everything's up.
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: One thing I would say, one critique I've always had
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: for Kiffin's offenses. His quarterbacks take hits. Yeah, I mean,
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: Matt Corrall Dart got to us, was limping, ran it
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: for like eighteen nineteen times at Tennessee. Jackson Dart took hits.
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: You know, Champ is not a big guy. I've surprised
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: the amount of hits he hasn't taken this year.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know if we can blame Kiffin for
• 15:51
  Speaker 7: Jackson Dart yet. From what we see from Jackson with
• 15:54
  Speaker 7: the Giant so far, that's fair. That is completely fair.
• 15:59
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: Shout out to Verge Ostbury as well.
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, Verge had a target, was not going to
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: be denied, stayed on the target, was calm in the process.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, uh, you know, I had had the chance
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: to fly up to the to the game with him,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: and man, there was no panic. It was smooth sailing
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: and he felt confident and what was going to go down.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: And I was impressed, just you know, sitting a couple
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: of feet from it and watching it all play out. Gee,
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: And Verge said he's like, we're gonna get the best
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: coach in America. And he had one guy and he
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: honed in on that guy and got the guy.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: Shout out to Verge as good of friends as he
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: is with Scott Woodward to go through that and all
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: the all political and everything else, to stay focused on
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: that target and being around it. Last weekend at the
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: down the locker room for you know, the Western Kentucky game,
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: Buddy felt confident that they were gonna get Kiffin. They
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: felt like there was Kiffin and in their minds there
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: was a big enough drop and to be able harder
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: sell for Drink, who we both like, Yeah right, I
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: like you like Drink would so I think it's fantastic
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: football coach. Would it be a hard sell to say, here,
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: we're gonna pay you Eli eleven million dollars a year
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: after we've paid Brian Kelly fifty three to fifty four
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: million to come down here and pay us.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: Five everybody let me know what they felt.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: I like Drink, I think he's a good coach.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: But to your point, it was it was Kiffin. Then
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: there was a drop and a lot of.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: People so I think they were we got to have Kiffin.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: We're all in on it, which I can appreciate. You're like, hey,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: this is the guy. I'm not going anywhere else.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: This is the only direction I'm going in because I
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: feel confident enough and look, Verge is a new athletic director.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: He's been doing you know something here at LSU for
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: thirty years. After he's done playing like, he's been in
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: every aspect of the athletic department. He has seen how
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: things play out. And so yeah, he's new to the
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: athletic director title, but he's been involved in this for
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: a long time.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: No, absolutely, he's been involved. He has a great relationship
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: with Jimmy Sexton and kudos to Verge for that. But
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: it was a fascinating week from everything from Drinkwitz to
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: taking the Missouri deal. Once once the chips start to
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: the fall, you felt better and better about Lane coming here.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: And I just shake my head at the Auburn situation.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I mean John Somerrell's wife went
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: to Auburn. Yeah, I think I believe. Yeah, it's from Huntsville.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: Auburn's much a more attractive job. And just apparently John
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Cohen wanted them to take DJ Diurkin and staff and
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: what have you. And when the market is that demand,
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: you know, you have a low supply of coaches and
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: you have that much demand on them, and then for
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: them to pull Alex Golish out at one am. They
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: made up call it one am on Friday. Hey, would
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: you take the job. It's kind of a headshaker.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: There, I know for some reason, and I've heard from
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: from all the Auburn folks that like Cohen just never
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: wanted to fully give himself over to John Sumraw, which
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: is it's fascinating to me. I mean from what he's
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: done and multiple remember Troy had kind of falling off
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: from what we know Troy to be. As soon as
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: he got there, they started winning games again. So it's
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: not only a two lane.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: There was a gap after Neil Brown left. Absolutely yeah.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: I mean he coached Kentucky.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: In the sec I was Kentucky doing.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: And even waiting this late no idea. Look be happy
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: we got Lane Kiffen and a couple of headshakers. And look,
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: I love Pete Golding. I think Pete's a great guy.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: You know, is that emotional play at this point you
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: have to give the permanent title, right.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's the head coach.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Is interesting, it is. I mean I played around the
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: golf of Pete. I like, Pete, you don't even play
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I don't play golf.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I.
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: Do want to ask you, like I know we're late
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: for a break here, but like I do want to
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: ask you the you know there everything kind of rushed
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: and just everybody nationally except for in Louisiana because we
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: don't really care because we got our guy. But everyone
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: natually talking about like the college football schedule and how
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: it's like because of this, how sloppy this was, how
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: messy this kind of was, Like, is there any fix
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: in your mind to the college football just timing of
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: signing days and is there any fix that anyway to get.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: This to move something? Are you're going to have every year?
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: I know every year when it comes down to you know,
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: now we're seeing it for the first time that the
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: signing day is on the Wednesday after the last regular season,
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: before the championship game. Yeah, the transfer portal is where
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: it is right there. I mean you're forcing coaches hands
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: right down, disrupting seasons and ultimately the biggest loser of
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: the student athletes. Yeah, I mean student athletes. And you
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: know you feel for the kids at Old Miss, Yeah,
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: that are put in that.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Spot we were talking about earlier. Of all people, Rick
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Patino had a great point. Yes, he's like, y'all got it.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Messed up in football. That would be like us getting
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: the one seed in March before the March madness and
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: then saying we got to go. It's the same thing, Like,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: that's what you're telling these coaches, because, like LS, you
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: wasn't gonna wait until January, No, couldn't. You got to
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: have a leader, right, You had to have a leader
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: for signing day. You had to, like you don't want
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: to have an interim coach, no matter who it is,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: for six seven, eight weeks, right, So you had to
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: have a leader in place to get everything moving in
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: the right direction.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Coming back to Pete Golden, and he very well may
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: do a great job and be the guy at Old Miss,
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: but almost forces Old missus hand. Yeah, if I don't
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: stabilize this ship right now, I've got recruits coming on Wednesday,
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: I've got this game that's coming. I'm trying to hold
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: this team together. I got a transfer portal. I almost
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: have to make a play right now.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Yep, for sure.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Gee appreciate it, brother, it's been a it's.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: A long day studio.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was great.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Anything it look warmer last time I saw you? What's
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: it look warmer?
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: Thanks a lot, By the way, I took my fifteen
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: year old son. So I took Jackson Alumnia, and I'm
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: getting crushed right now because his seats were in section two.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: Twenty eight. He made it the halftime. He made it
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: the half time. Twenty eight was the upper up. Absolutely,
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: he went back to the pre party and sure kid
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: was shriveled. And so if I get a call for
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: child abuse or something today, I might need you all
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: to bail me.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, I'll vouch for you. They vouch for you.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I'll actually I'll throw it on Lou and the equipment
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: staff or not getting him a parking.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: It's his fault.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: It's all Low and Maule. It's their fault. Do you
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: appreciate it? Brother? All right, we'll take a break.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: We do have Ross Dellinger joining us in about ten
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: minutes from now. I mean Ross had this story covered.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I mean he was boots on the ground in Oxford.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: So looking forward to that conversation with our guy Deli
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: coming up in ten minutes more OTB when we come
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad one text AND's paid attention the whole time.
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  Speaker 3: Real quick here, like I said, we are going to
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  Speaker 3: get to Ross Dellinger Yahoo, who was literally boost on
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  Speaker 3: the ground and had most of the updates here during
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: this link given situation in the SEC and we mentioned
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: some of it with Gordy there. But just a quick
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: recap of what happened with the coaching carousel. So Ryan
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Silverfield goes from Memphis to Arkansas, Alex Golish goes from
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: South Florida to Auburn, John summer All goes from Tulane
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: to Florida, Pete Golden goes from defensive coordinator to head
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: coach at ol Miss and Mark Stoops, which you'll hear
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: a little bit later on. And Mark Stoops is my guy, okay,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: but he gotta let go a Kentucky. So you know
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: what that means there's gonna be a eulogy for Mark Stoops.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: St Bob would say, I don't know if I get
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: through it, but I can't even say it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: I can't even say it. Don't don't do that to yourself.
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: The questions we got a lot of show left we
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: was Kentucky doing though that?
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: Why would you wait until everybody already know their coaches?
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: That's wild?
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Well for sure, Yeah, but the summer all part, like
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: he played linebacker there, Yeah, like he would have I
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: would assume love to go back to where he played,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: and he was one of the hotter names on the
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: coaching trails.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: So I don't.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I think Kentucky is a good job. We like, you
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: can do enough to win there. The expectations are set
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: eight wins and you're like, I mean, that's why Mark
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Stups was the most tenured SEC coach before yesterday.
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: I think a lot of times, like when we when
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: we're fans of something like the Kentucky fans, in any
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: fan of any college or pro team or whatever it is,
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: I think you take for granted, like people in the
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: high seats, like you're always like, you know what, they
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: know what they're doing. They got it under control. Like
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: when I got to the NFL, that's what I thought too.
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: I know other people in the NFL, they got it
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: under control. You soon realize like nobody has anything under control,
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: Like nobody really knows what they're doing in any job.
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: They're just trying to figure it out as they go, right.
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: That can be said for anything the higher ups in
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: any business, government, certainly university athletic programs. Like you think
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: people take it for it when you have all these
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: followers and so many highs on something and everybody's like
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: they got it, they know what they're doing, let's just
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: let them do it.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: But when you see things like this, you.
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: Just realize that people really don't know what they're doing. Yeah,
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: all the way across the board and that. And you
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: see that with Kentucky right now, like there's no rhyme
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: or reason, there's no explanation for it. The people in
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: charge screwed that one up. Yeah, big time.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: All right, So there is a report real quick here
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: and it's what we talked about here. After talking with
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Blake last night, it does look like he is l
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: SUDFS coordinator. Blake Baker will stay on staff and baton
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: rouge I'm trying to see who had this first. CBS Sports,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: CBS Sports. He know, CBS Sports knows.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Like I said, when Blake told me that last night,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: I'm like, if you get my hopes would be real bad?
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: Can we play?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I would look, I would assume with this news like
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: it's pretty much like yeah. I mean because because Blake
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: and that staff have a really good relationship on that
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: side of football.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: So this is incredible news.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Blayane Kiffin, Blake Baker, Let's ride, Let's ride.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? That's awesome.
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: I'm so excited. That was like the one thing we
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: wanted all coaches, any coach coming in. We kind of
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: understated it here because we didn't really know. Yep, oh,
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: here we go, come on, turn up.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Lake Bankers staying baby per CBS.
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: Ooh, I'm.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: He does.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's like the most shocking thing I've learned about you.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I know he's always had some different music tastes, but
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: like a funky Friday, this guy's all for it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: My music taste is very eclectic, guys. I mean, we
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: gotta take a break, same.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: But celebrate everybody, all right, Ross Dellinger When we come
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: back here on otb off the bench. All right, we
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: are so excited to tell you about the new Valley's
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Baton Rouge. I mean, this thing is incredible. You will
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: not notice what it used to be when you walk
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: in there. And it doesn't matter how many times you've
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: been in there, because Matt and I did a lot
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: of events there.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: It is not a distant cousin to what it used
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  Speaker 4: to be.
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  Speaker 3: It got an upgrade and it is really something that
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  Speaker 3: The casino floor, I mean twenty five thousand square feed
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  Speaker 3: They've got an incredible every room has been touched hotel
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  Speaker 3: You will be blown away by the new Ballet's casino
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  Speaker 7: Sorry, you can actually go follow them on Facebook, Instagram,
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  Speaker 7: whatever at Bally's Baton Rouge.
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  Speaker 4: Like, we got to take a walk through it. It
• 30:24
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  Speaker 7: Renovated, fully renovate ten story Ballet's Baton Rouge Hotel right there.
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  Speaker 8: Ballets, ballets, ballets, talkers.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: This is off the bench, all right, welcome back in
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  Speaker 3: OTV here live from the Raisin Caine Studio. It's always
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: our pleasure to welcome on our next guess it is
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  Speaker 3: our guy, Ross Dellinger. Yahoo's sports at Ross Dollinger's to
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: handle on social media. And hopefully you were following him
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: over the last couple of days because he was all
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: over Lane Kiffin and him finding his way from Oxford
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: to Baton Rouge.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: Delli, what's going on? Brother? How you doing good? How
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: are you all good?
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Do we have you back home yet? Like, are you
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: actually able to go back home? I know you were
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: boots on the ground there in Oxford. Like, where in
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: the world is Ross Dellinger right now?
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: I'm right down the street from me, buddy, I'm in Uge.
• 31:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: You in the bushes?
• 31:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, no bushes, no bushes right now?
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: Three three three cities, three days, one coach.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: I actually, you know what, as soon as I asked that,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: I was like, there's no way my man's back home.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: He's probably right here in Baton Rouge and so well,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: I'm glad I'll get to see you a little bit
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: later on today. Ross this entire time, I mean, again,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: you did a fantastic job covering it and kind of
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: going over every detail. Now, it always felt like it
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: was LSU because LSU was very confident and everybody you
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: talked to felt like they had a really good grasp
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: on how it was going to play out. But you
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: never know in coaching searches, certainly in college football, and look,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: you don't know with Lane and the situation that he
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: was in. So as you're covering this, like, what was
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: your thought maybe throughout the entire time, Like did you
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: think that it would get to where he got and
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: actually get to the finish line? You know, you never know.
• 32:33
  Speaker 10: With Lane, you never know, And I think that was
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: sort of Lshoe's worry. I think LSUE officials were pretty confident.
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: Since probably about a.
• 32:51
  Speaker 10: Week and a half ago.
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: I think they got really confident that Lane would be
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: coming after the after the season, and but you just
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: sort of never know, and I don't I don't necessarily
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: think anything was signed, but there was sort of a
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: I think kind of a wink and a nod, maybe
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: as far back as a week and a half ago
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: that that he was very seriously considering this and probably
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: gonna end up coming.
• 33:25
  Speaker 10: But but again, you are talking about a very unpredictable person, and.
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: And so there were there were some plenty of LSU
• 33:37
  Speaker 9: officials who, especially during and after the Egg.
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: Bowl last Friday, were worried that there could be some
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: kind of change of change of heart and all that.
• 33:49
  Speaker 9: So there was always that in the back of think
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: everybody's mind in Baton Rouge.
• 33:56
  Speaker 10: But he obviously followed through in.
• 34:01
  Speaker 9: The meeting Saturday night, where I wasn't quite in the bushes.
• 34:06
  Speaker 9: I was in my car and I was in a
• 34:07
  Speaker 9: parking lot looking over the bushes, I guess you could
• 34:10
  Speaker 9: say at the Chancellor's house where they were meeting. It
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: was after that meeting that really things got more finalized.
• 34:18
  Speaker 9: Elis scheduled at the two planes to come down and
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: come up and pick him up in Oxford, so everything.
• 34:24
  Speaker 10: Sort of kind up.
• 34:25
  Speaker 9: That's when you sort of knew that that Saturday night
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: that it was.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: A definite.
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: Rossty like as messy as everything kind of seemed to
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: be from us just kind of watching from the outside,
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: do you think that, Yeah, of course Lane wanted to
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: be here and that was that was pretty understood as
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: everything kind of unfolded throughout this whole process in the
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: last couple of weeks. But do you think that he
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: honestly believed he was going to get the opportunity to
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: continue to coach his team even though he was going
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: to leave.
• 34:56
  Speaker 10: I do.
• 34:57
  Speaker 9: I do, which is for many hard to believe because
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: I don't know that when I called round and talked
• 35:07
  Speaker 9: to agents and coaches and other athletic directors around the country,
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: there's not many, if any at all, that would allow
• 35:15
  Speaker 9: a coach who's leaving for a conference rival to continue
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: to coach and a post the team their team in
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: a in a postseason.
• 35:26
  Speaker 10: It's it's a.
• 35:26
  Speaker 9: Different situation than what's going on at Tulane with John
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: Summer all in Florida, in him getting the coach through
• 35:34
  Speaker 9: the playoffs that say advanced, we're talking about two bitter rivals.
• 35:40
  Speaker 10: You know that go This rivalry goes back, you know.
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: Decades, and it's pretty short of nasty already. And so
• 35:49
  Speaker 9: I in this it was never going to happen where
• 35:52
  Speaker 9: he was going to be allowed to coach, and in
• 35:54
  Speaker 9: Elmus had made that decision a long time ago that
• 35:59
  Speaker 9: this was not going to happen. And in Lane, I
• 36:00
  Speaker 9: think that's the last bit tried to convince them of
• 36:04
  Speaker 9: that in that meeting at the Chancellor's house Saturday night,
• 36:07
  Speaker 9: to let him do it, to let him coach some
• 36:10
  Speaker 9: of the players.
• 36:11
  Speaker 10: I think did want him to stay on and coach.
• 36:13
  Speaker 10: But again.
• 36:16
  Speaker 9: I think Lane's in his interview before he left Oxford
• 36:20
  Speaker 9: yesterday with the ESPN, is that Keith Carter, the ad
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: at ole Miss, has to live in Oxford and he
• 36:27
  Speaker 9: has to continue in his job. And I think it
• 36:30
  Speaker 9: would be difficult for Keith Carter if he allowed a
• 36:34
  Speaker 9: coach who's leaving for a conference rival to continue coaching
• 36:37
  Speaker 9: the team. It would be difficult for Keith Carter to
• 36:41
  Speaker 9: perhaps even remain in his job in Oxford.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Now, Ross, you've covered LSU for long enough, and you
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: know that, like when you say rivals for LSU, it
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: kind of changes with generations, like for Flynn and I
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: like it's Florida like that was our rival.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: You know, depending on who you asked.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: You could have asked my grandfather he goes tou Lane,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: maybe my dad goes Old Miss. My son's probably go Alabama.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: So it's forever changing and we talked about for Texas
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: A and M. It took seven overtimes for that to
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: become an actual thing because before it felt forced like
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: for a lot of generations, they're you know, LSU Ole
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Miss doesn't mean as much to them as it does
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: to others. I think this now gives every generation a
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: reason to call this a true rival and it's a
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: permanent opponent, Like do you agree with that that? Yes,
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: they've you know, not liked each other for a long time,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: but now this brings everybody to the table.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: And I think, you know, LSU plays at ole Miss
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: next year.
• 37:42
  Speaker 9: And we saw what happened when Lane Kiffen returned to
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: Tennessee and is maybe his second year, third year in
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: Oxford when he returned there for the first time since
• 37:54
  Speaker 9: he had left maybe ten years before, and that was
• 37:57
  Speaker 9: a ten year gap, and we saw that get pretty
• 37:59
  Speaker 9: nasty were.
• 38:00
  Speaker 10: Thrown at him on the field.
• 38:02
  Speaker 9: You can imagine less than a year later him returning
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: to Oxford. You know that that's that's gonna be quite
• 38:11
  Speaker 9: a spectacle. And I think this rivalry up there. If
• 38:17
  Speaker 9: there was any kind of doubt that there was this
• 38:22
  Speaker 9: rivalry between these two programs, uh I think.
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: That's out of the window now. I think that the
• 38:26
  Speaker 10: Lane has made made.
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: Sure that in his his sort of actions and words,
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: that this rivalry will continue on and get.
• 38:39
  Speaker 10: More intense.
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: So yeah, ross this old situation has been so polarizing
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: and it is so glaring because of how this is
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: all unfolded like it brings. Usually it takes something like
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: this for change to be brought about. And of course
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: there's debate all over the country about like how to
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: fix what's the what's the fix for college football to
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: scheduling the calendar year college football?
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: In your mind? What needs to be fixed? And is
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: it even possible?
• 39:06
  Speaker 9: Well, it's it's hard. I know everybody wants, uh, you know,
• 39:12
  Speaker 9: fix is done in the calendar, but it's it's not
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: that easy and uh And partly it's not that easy
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: because you have an entity in major college football that
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: is evolving into a professional entity, but it's still tethered
• 39:31
  Speaker 9: to higher education in a university, and it's still tethered
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: to a university's calendar, an academic calendar, And that's what
• 39:41
  Speaker 9: makes makes things really different difficult. That plus the fact
• 39:45
  Speaker 9: that college athletics resist the urge to completely evolve professionally
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: by having a collective bargaining agreement for example, or or
• 40:00
  Speaker 9: any kind of more binding contracts and things like that
• 40:04
  Speaker 9: with players, and that that that sort of impacts.
• 40:08
  Speaker 10: All of this as well.
• 40:09
  Speaker 9: So I don't know what they can really do. They
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: have changed a lot in the.
• 40:17
  Speaker 10: Last few years.
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: They moved back to transfer portal to January from December,
• 40:22
  Speaker 9: and they were hoping that that would sort of slow
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: the what had become an accelerated coaching firing cycle and
• 40:33
  Speaker 9: firing cycle.
• 40:35
  Speaker 10: It didn't work, right.
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: This is the this is the most accelerated it's ever been.
• 40:40
  Speaker 9: And I think part of the reason behind that is,
• 40:44
  Speaker 9: you know, despite the transfer porting moving moving to January,
• 40:47
  Speaker 9: that you know, the signing day is still Wednesday. This
• 40:51
  Speaker 9: Wednesday is still in the first week of December. And
• 40:56
  Speaker 9: let's face it, you know, after the season, moves and
• 41:00
  Speaker 9: player moves and decisions happen, and you're not even if
• 41:04
  Speaker 9: you put it off to January, the portal opening, that's
• 41:07
  Speaker 9: still not going to.
• 41:08
  Speaker 10: Change when players make decisions. So teams are.
• 41:11
  Speaker 9: Being arranged and remade right now, even when even though
• 41:18
  Speaker 9: the portal is moved to January.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Cauz Omber, the guy Ross dellens Aer here on OTB
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: all right, ross last one before we let you go
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: from a on the field perspective, right, So you have
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin now the offensive staff. There's a report out
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: there that Blake Baker is going to be retained as well.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: So you got Lane Kiffin on one side, Blake Baker
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: on the other. Do you think in your opinion that
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: this gets LSU back to where they want to be
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: as soon as next year?
• 41:48
  Speaker 9: Well, I think if you just look at the results
• 41:52
  Speaker 9: of Lane Kiffin in what he's done with programs in
• 41:58
  Speaker 9: his coaching career, especially the last you know, sort of
• 42:02
  Speaker 9: few years, you know, you you usually don't have to
• 42:06
  Speaker 9: wait too long for him to show success. Even even
• 42:11
  Speaker 9: years ago, at his time at Tennessee and USC UH
• 42:16
  Speaker 9: they were pretty it was pretty quick success. I mean,
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: I think his second year at usc won ten games.
• 42:22
  Speaker 9: His first year at Florida Atlantic he won eleven games.
• 42:26
  Speaker 9: His second year at ole Miss he won ten games.
• 42:29
  Speaker 9: His first year at ole Miss was five or five.
• 42:31
  Speaker 9: It was the COVID year though, so there's a little
• 42:34
  Speaker 9: bit of an outlier there. So it's virtually everywhere he's
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: been pretty quickly.
• 42:43
  Speaker 10: He has taken a team.
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: To a double digit sort of win mark And you
• 42:49
  Speaker 9: know he's got the players here on the team now,
• 42:54
  Speaker 9: but he's certainly going to be recruiting.
• 42:57
  Speaker 10: To LSU and LSU as we all know, kind of
• 43:00
  Speaker 10: cruits itself.
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: And so he will have the best players he's probably
• 43:03
  Speaker 9: ever had, even though you know he has been at
• 43:05
  Speaker 9: Tennessee as being at USC and Olmos did a great
• 43:08
  Speaker 9: job with nil and with player acquisition. But I think
• 43:11
  Speaker 9: it's safe to say that he'll have the best athletes
• 43:13
  Speaker 9: he's ever had here.
• 43:15
  Speaker 10: And so you would think, based on his.
• 43:17
  Speaker 9: Past success who he would have a lot of success
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: with those really good athletes. And it's one of the
• 43:22
  Speaker 9: reasons he took the job.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: All right there, He is that guy, Ross Dellinger, I mean,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: had this thing covered from every angle.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: Does a great job for Yahoo Sports.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: As you already know at Ross Dellinger is the handle
• 43:33
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• 43:36
  Speaker 3: and I'll see you here in a couple of hours. Brother,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: all right, guys it the elater, all right, man, Ross
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• 44:05
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• 44:13
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