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Chuck & Buck 1-20 Hour 2: 12th Man News with Gregg Bell, Char-Coacherie Board and why is it so hard? · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: So Dylan Joyce back on Fox, Hendriana bucks a punt
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  Speaker 1: Baza for a tucksdown, Hi Sa times hother recovery. I
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  Speaker 1: guys could crown is the batt steps up yandos Downfield,
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  Speaker 1: Heather zet down, Tom resunucks up, democlints Indiana's first National championship.
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  Speaker 2: Chris Bowler on the call ESPN last night National Championship
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  Speaker 2: Game of college football, and it's the Indiana Hoosiers. One
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  Speaker 2: of the great stories in the history of sports, the Hoosiers,
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  Speaker 2: laughing stock in the college football world for a century.
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  Speaker 2: Last year broke through under first year head coach Kurt Signetti,
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  Speaker 2: made it all the way to the tournament.
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  Speaker 3: This year they went the distance.
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  Speaker 2: NASH champions great game last night, a win over Miami
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  Speaker 2: by a final score of twenty seven to twenty one.
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  Speaker 2: Mario Christo Baal's got that program humming in Miami. They
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  Speaker 2: played a terrific game as well last night, but it's
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  Speaker 2: the Hoosiers to take it. Twenty seven to twenty one.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Welcome in our number two here on this Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: Chucking Buck in the mornings.
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  Speaker 3: My name is Chuck Powell.
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  Speaker 2: Bucky Jacobson, former Mariner is to my left and I'm
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  Speaker 2: staring at Ashley Ryan.
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  Speaker 3: I can see her right in front of me.
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  Speaker 2: Hi.
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  Speaker 3: There she is, Ye, she is here as well.
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  Speaker 2: We've got our normal Tuesday lineup, which is award winning
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  Speaker 2: coming your way, and that includes Greg Bell, our Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: insider here in a little over two minutes. But first
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  Speaker 2: let's rip through your frost brewed corps light choose chill headlines.
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  Speaker 2: We start, of course with Indiana winning that national championship
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  Speaker 2: behind Kurt Signetti, as it's their first enfranchise history or
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  Speaker 2: franchise history in the school history, I should say, and
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  Speaker 2: they will start defense without either Mendoza. We've heard today
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  Speaker 2: that Alberto, Fernando's little brother is not going to play
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  Speaker 2: at Indiana. They went into the transfer portal, got a
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  Speaker 2: new quarterback, and so he's like, well, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to be a backup, so he's decided to leave. I
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  Speaker 2: guess Fernando didn't have a good enough year at Indiana.
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  Speaker 2: I can't go to that stay at this program. They
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  Speaker 2: run Mendoza's right into the ground.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, I guess.
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  Speaker 4: He was the guy.
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  Speaker 3: He was the backup.
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  Speaker 5: He would come in when they were blowing somebody out,
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  Speaker 5: so I think he was probably thinking it was going
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  Speaker 5: to be his spot, and Signetti had other thoughts apparently. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: so he's like, all right, I'll go somewhere else, somewhere
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  Speaker 5: I can.
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  Speaker 3: Play Seahawks Rams.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, we are in the midst of the countdown
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  Speaker 2: the Sunday, the NFC Conference Championship game. Will probably spend
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  Speaker 2: every second, every breath that we take over the course
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  Speaker 2: of the next three days getting you ready for this game.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll splash a few other things into today's show.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Bell though going to join us in a minute
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  Speaker 2: talk about Zach Charbonney's injury and many other topics that
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  Speaker 2: we didn't get to in our time with him yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Of Course, double eder on Sunday, Patriots at Denver to
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  Speaker 2: get it started. The Broncos will not have bo Nicks.
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  Speaker 2: They will start Jared Stidham at quarterback. Meanwhile, Rams at
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks three thirty is the scheduled to kick off right
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  Speaker 2: here at Loominfield. Titans and Dolphins both hired their head
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  Speaker 2: coaches yesterday, the Titans nabbing Robert Salah away from the
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  Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers, so he's going to get
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  Speaker 2: a second shot. Meanwhile, the Dolphins are going to give
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  Speaker 2: a first shot to Jeff Hafley, the Green Bay Packers
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  Speaker 2: defensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 3: He is now the new head coach with the Miami Dolphins.
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  Speaker 2: Cracking lost again suddenly, just in a horrible slump again.
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  Speaker 2: They lost six to three to the Penguins yesterday afternoon
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  Speaker 2: on Martin Luther King Day. They will next play against
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  Speaker 2: the New York Islanders tomorrow at six thirty.
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  Speaker 3: Ever it joins us at eight thirty.
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  Speaker 2: It's also a cracking ticket Tuesday, so be listening for
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  Speaker 2: and we will send you to an upcoming cracking game
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  Speaker 2: and uh college basketball, you doub will take on Nebraska,
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  Speaker 2: the seventh rank team in the country tomorrow, and that'll be.
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  Speaker 3: At six o'clock and you can hear it on nine fifty.
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's talk to Greg.
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  Speaker 6: Bell with the bell tolls. It must be seven o'clock
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  Speaker 6: and time for twelfth Man News with Greg Bell, brought
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  Speaker 3: Now with twelfth Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
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  Speaker 3: Greg, you know works, you know the routine I do.
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  Speaker 4: That's very team oriented of you to do that. Turn
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  Speaker 4: that in. You got it? All right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about something that's not funny. Zach Charbonay's injury.
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  Speaker 2: I think Mike McDonald kind of gave me some false
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  Speaker 2: hope that he might actually be able to play. And
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  Speaker 2: not only is he not going to be able to play.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's about as bad news as you can
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  Speaker 2: get on that knee. And so what are you hearing
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  Speaker 2: about Zach Charboney's future here?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it looks like he has an ACL tear needs
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  Speaker 4: surgery out for the season. You're right, is the initial
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  Speaker 4: words to us after the game Saturday night, where the
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  Speaker 4: initial test look like it's not major, but they did
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  Speaker 4: imaging and shows a tear and that's going to be
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  Speaker 4: the ACL recovery. It's eight to twelve months. And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so that takes him into training camp next year. This
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  Speaker 4: is the next to last year of his contract. He
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  Speaker 4: is one more year after this on his rookie deal.
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  Speaker 4: Said it's he heartbreaks, Mike McDonald said, and that's the
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  Speaker 4: long road ahead for him. And now they have on
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  Speaker 4: the practice squad. They don't have another on the active
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  Speaker 4: roster currently because George Allanne is on injured reserve still
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  Speaker 4: but behind Kenneth Walker, Fellas Jones is an option. He
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  Speaker 4: was promoted from the practice squad to play last weekend's game.
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  Speaker 4: And they still have Cam Akers, a former Rams number
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  Speaker 4: one running move a few years ago. He's also on
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  Speaker 4: the practice squad and those are the two options. And
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  Speaker 4: he also said yesterday afternoon that the McDonald did that
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  Speaker 4: there's a possibility that hold on he comes back from
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  Speaker 4: the injured reserve this week. We'll probably know when today
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  Speaker 4: more about that.
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  Speaker 3: It's not Marshaun lunch time, is it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't fine never say never. I mean, I still
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  Speaker 4: I remember Mary new Year on Christmas Eve a few
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  Speaker 4: years ago and forget that when they signed him up.
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  Speaker 4: But no, it doesn't think that's on the horizon.
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  Speaker 5: Well the vellis Jones, how do you say that, Vilas Jones?
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  Speaker 5: He came in when in the blowout and so is
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  Speaker 5: he one that is going to be first in line
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  Speaker 5: for this or do you think they're going to go
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  Speaker 5: to one of these guys you're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: It's on the practice squad.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Jones is still on the practice squad too. It
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  Speaker 4: looks like he's right now, looks like he's moved ahead
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  Speaker 4: of cam Akers. He's a fifth year veterans, so he's
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  Speaker 4: been around a little bit around the league. But it
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  Speaker 4: looks like, yeah, he appears anyway, by the fact that
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  Speaker 4: he did do mop up duty, I guess the forty
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  Speaker 4: nine ers that Jones would be the next man up
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  Speaker 4: for the backup. Okay, but what it does show is
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  Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker And this isn't the way anyone in the
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  Speaker 4: Seahawks wanted it to go. But just Kenneth Walker has
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  Speaker 4: his lead role by himself now, which is pretty advantageous
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  Speaker 4: for him with the whole league watching the biggest games
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  Speaker 4: of the year. It's kind of warker. Yeah, by the way,
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  Speaker 4: does not have a contract beyond the end of this season.
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  Speaker 3: Every carry and just give him every carry unless I
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  Speaker 3: think at this point yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well McDonald talked about yesterday how he thought that was
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  Speaker 4: the most decisive that Walker has run all season, and
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  Speaker 4: he also said that you know, it's benefiting him now
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  Speaker 4: that we did govern him for most of the season.
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  Speaker 4: We've talked so much about how it was the foot
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  Speaker 4: issue in the summer and how they were trying to
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  Speaker 4: get him through seventeen games so we could play them all.
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  Speaker 4: And now he was on board with that because it's
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  Speaker 4: an opportunity for him to get a new Contract's this
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  Speaker 4: is the first season of any of his four that
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  Speaker 4: he played in every one of the seventeen regular season games.
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  Speaker 4: So now they don't have a team doesn't have that
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  Speaker 4: to knock against him. Suddenly the question, I mean, no
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  Speaker 4: one's thinking about at the moment because they're trying to
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  Speaker 4: go to the super Bowl on Sunday, But suddenly Kenneth
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  Speaker 4: Walker to be the twenty twenty six running back is
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  Speaker 4: you would think yes at this moment, We'll see what
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  Speaker 4: they end up doing with that. But yeah, this is
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  Speaker 4: Walker's time, it's pretty advantageous for him.
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  Speaker 2: How is Sam Donald feeling the morning after and how
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  Speaker 2: are they going to work with him this week?
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  Speaker 4: So far, so good, and that's what McDonald said, that
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  Speaker 4: he didn't have a setback or get worse because of it.
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  Speaker 4: But they are gonna as using the McDonald's where they're
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  Speaker 4: going to navigate this. Donald said after the game that
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  Speaker 4: he will have to manage this throughout this week as well.
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  Speaker 4: I would think that means he's not gonna be full go.
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  Speaker 4: It'll be limited in practices, he won't throw his normal
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  Speaker 4: throwing regiment. They would just not make any sense for
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  Speaker 4: them to have him throw like he normally would Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
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  Speaker 4: So a lot of mental reps for him, I would expect.
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  Speaker 4: And on the injury report, by the way the league's
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  Speaker 4: rules are, it's probably gonna say limited. And if he's
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  Speaker 4: limited at all, that means that he has missed some
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  Speaker 4: of practice that he normally would take. That means Drew
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  Speaker 4: Locke would get the number one snaps. You're going to
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  Speaker 4: see a lot of stories and words about Drew lock
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  Speaker 4: being the number one quarterback during the week and Sam
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  Speaker 4: Donald was limited and Sam Donald hasn't thrown for days.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't read too much more into that other than
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't need to throw until Sunday.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you got the Rams coming up, and
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  Speaker 5: it's the third time you've played them. This is I
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  Speaker 5: think the first time that anybody's ever played the same
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  Speaker 5: opponent three times in a year twice, right, And the
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  Speaker 5: only way that happens if you have a tough division
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  Speaker 5: and people go deep in the playoffs. When it came
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  Speaker 5: to the Niners, you know, as much respect and credit
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  Speaker 5: goes to the Seahawks, they outplayed them, and they are
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  Speaker 5: playing the best football of anybody in the game right now.
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  Speaker 5: They also were dinged up the Rams. Not so much
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  Speaker 5: so when you see a rematch of two teams that
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  Speaker 5: are closer in where they actually are at this point
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  Speaker 5: in the season. Who you're getting an advantage to McVeigh
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  Speaker 5: or McDonald.
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  Speaker 4: I'm giving every advantage and every time I see anything
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  Speaker 4: to Mike McDonald right now, I mean he is just
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  Speaker 4: a shutdown artist. The other thing that has changed since
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  Speaker 4: the Rams came in here and went for four hundred
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  Speaker 4: and eighty one yards and thirty seven points on December eighteenth.
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  Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford has not been the same quarterback since then.
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  Speaker 4: He has thrown for under sixty percent completion rate three
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  Speaker 4: of the last four games. He was under fifty percent
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  Speaker 4: in Chicago twenty of forty two. He was about fifty
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  Speaker 4: percent against Carolina. He's different. He has missed on throws.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the finger that he jammed
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  Speaker 4: into a helmet in Carolina that bothered him in a
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  Speaker 4: zero degree wind chill and Soldier field the other night,
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  Speaker 4: but there are throws that he normally nails that he
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  Speaker 4: is way overthrown. He overthrew one that was about five
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  Speaker 4: yards of the guy's head across the middle late in
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  Speaker 4: the game in late regulation. That is different than what
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  Speaker 4: the Seahawks faced in Inglewood and in Seattle in November December.
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  Speaker 4: So if Matthew Stafford continues on the trajector he's on,
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  Speaker 4: the Seahawks have a huge advantage. If a quarterback's only
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  Speaker 4: complete and fifty percent of his throws half the time,
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  Speaker 4: this is you're gaining zero yards. That is the biggest concern.
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  Speaker 4: If I'm from looking at from the Rams perspective, we'll
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  Speaker 4: see and this is we're talking about the MVP. Remember
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  Speaker 4: the voting for MVP happens in the regular season, So
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  Speaker 4: he had such a great regular season and he's probably
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  Speaker 4: gonna win it. But I see a completely different quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know if it's injury related. I haven't
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  Speaker 4: talked yet to my Rams people that for this week,
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  Speaker 4: but that to me is make this the third game
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  Speaker 4: much different than the last game.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not to correct you on statistical minutia, but
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  Speaker 2: I do think it underscores just the oddity of that
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  Speaker 2: last matchup.
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  Speaker 3: It was actually five hundred and eighty yards that they
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  Speaker 3: gave up misspoke.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Stafford and the Rams five eighty, which I
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  Speaker 2: gotta believe. I mean, even though his team's playing the
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  Speaker 2: best football in the world right now, still eats at
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald's defensive So yeah, to be dealing with that,
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  Speaker 2: and Pooka Nakua just went completely off against this time.
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  Speaker 2: So how do you how do you think he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: what do you think he's he's thinking about to change
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  Speaker 2: it up so that Pooka and Stafford don't light him
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  Speaker 2: up again.
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  Speaker 4: He's gonna do less. He said after that Rams game
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  Speaker 4: that he gave the players too much. He thought that
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  Speaker 4: they were mastering everything. It was a short week. Remember
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  Speaker 4: there was a Thursday night game after a Sunday game,
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  Speaker 4: And he said that week he gave him too much
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  Speaker 4: and they were trying to do too many advanced things defensively.
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  Speaker 4: They were trying to move on from the concepts that
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  Speaker 4: they already had and add on to show the Rams
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  Speaker 4: something they hadn't seen in Englewood the month before. And
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  Speaker 4: he said in retrospect, that was the wrong week to
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  Speaker 4: do that, and he confused them. They weren't playing as decisively,
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  Speaker 4: they had communication issues, the noise in lum And Field
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  Speaker 4: that night, and trying to relay their changes that they
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  Speaker 4: were he just got too cute, he said, in so
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  Speaker 4: many words. And so you would think he's going to
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  Speaker 4: not do that and rely on what they've been doing
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  Speaker 4: so far. And if McVay has seen it, so what,
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  Speaker 4: If Stafford's seen it, so what. They also have an
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  Speaker 4: extra day eight days seven between games compared with four
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  Speaker 4: between games the last time, which will help as well
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  Speaker 4: in the preperries. So I'm sure he's going to have
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  Speaker 4: a few wrinkles for McVeigh that he hasn't seen yet.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, he blamed himself for a lot of those
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  Speaker 4: five hundred eighty one yards.
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  Speaker 5: How big of a deal is Cooper Cup going to
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  Speaker 5: be in this hopefully final two games that the Seahawks
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  Speaker 5: get to play. I mean he I don't think anybody's
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  Speaker 5: expecting him to be the MVP caliber guy when he
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  Speaker 5: came over the Rams. If he still was, probably aren't
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  Speaker 5: getting rid of him. But I mean the fact that
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  Speaker 5: he does a lot of little things. He's he understands
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  Speaker 5: where he's going to be. Do you expect him to
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  Speaker 5: be the Hey, if they do try to take away
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  Speaker 5: Smith and Jigba, we're gonna He's still gonna get his,
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  Speaker 5: but we need you to step up.
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  Speaker 3: I'd have him in the coaching room, you know, putting
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  Speaker 3: the game plan together if I were them Greg, he's.
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  Speaker 4: Doing some of that too. I think he's the glue guy.
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  Speaker 4: And I do think that we haven't had and mc
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  Speaker 4: donald hasn't done it yet. But there's gonna be a
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  Speaker 4: Rashid Jha heat breakout game. We would come in the
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  Speaker 4: Super Bowl, would come in the NFC title game. But
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  Speaker 4: he as far as receiving and pushing the ball down
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  Speaker 4: the field, cups the guy when it's third and eight
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  Speaker 4: will get nine. That's the that's kind of is Tyler
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  Speaker 4: Lockett in that way Doug Baldwin before him. That's the
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  Speaker 4: role he started to come into. Now he's got limited
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  Speaker 4: number of targets and when he gets them, they tend
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  Speaker 4: to be for first downs. And he did that again
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  Speaker 4: the other night against San Francisco, so yards after the catch. Guy,
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  Speaker 4: that kind of intermediate underneath Smith and Jigba and now
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  Speaker 4: underneath set. I think that's going to continue to be
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  Speaker 4: Cooper Cup's role with the home run hitters still being
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  Speaker 4: Jackson Smith in ticular.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll say, I mean, I know the running game
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  Speaker 2: has been a lot better lately, and I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to take any credit away from the offensive line because
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  Speaker 2: God knows they've been criticized severely for the last decade
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  Speaker 2: as a group with the Seahawks, But man, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how good are the Sea Hawk receivers at blocking and
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  Speaker 2: tight ends as well into that group, including Cooper Cupp.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's one of the more underrated
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  Speaker 2: aspects of this team.
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  Speaker 4: They stress it so much. They stressed it from training
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  Speaker 4: camp and OTAs and when Kubiak got here, the receivers
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  Speaker 4: were telling us. That's the difference that they are a
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  Speaker 4: lot of Even under Pete Carroll, they would talk about
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  Speaker 4: receivers blocking and took pride in it, but you weren't
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  Speaker 4: going to play unless you blocked. And Jake Bobo is
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  Speaker 4: still on the team because of that. They've brought in Horton,
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  Speaker 4: They've traded for Shaheed, and Jake Bobo went down to
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  Speaker 4: seventeen percent snaps from playing about one third snaps eater
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  Speaker 4: his first two years. But Jake Bobo's playing largely because
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  Speaker 4: of that. And we mentioned the block in Santa Clair
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  Speaker 4: in Week eighteen. He took out three guys on the
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  Speaker 2: talk about the coaches because that's obviously a really hot
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: topic right now in the National Football League. We did
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: have two solutions drawn yesterday, one by the Miami Dolphins
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Jeff Hafley, the defensive coordinator of the Green Bay Packers,
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  Speaker 2: they've decided.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how much influence Troy Aikman had over that.
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  Speaker 2: To end up with a defensive coordinator of the Packers
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  Speaker 2: kind of feels more like they hired a general manager
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  Speaker 2: and he brought his buddy down from Green Bay with him.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels a little bit more like he had
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  Speaker 2: more influence maybe than Aikman. And then we also Robert
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Sala goes to the Tennessee Titans. He gets his second
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  Speaker 2: crack of being a head coach in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if Mike Holmgren liked that fit for
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: him yesterday when we talked about it off the air
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  Speaker 2: with him. But as far as being a Seattle sports,
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• 21:49
  Speaker 2: happy about having Robert sal out of our lives two times.
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  Speaker 4: Heater.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty good coordinator. I don't know if he's a
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  Speaker 3: good coach head coach, but he's a good coordinator.
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  Speaker 5: Well, he said, I guess he's going to keep the
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: defensive play calling duties of where he didn't do that
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: in New York when he was a Jet. So he's like,
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to let that part of the ship
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: sink under my watch. But yeah, I'm not one hundred
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: percent sure. We saw him on hard knocks and seemed
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: like a guy that you would want to run through
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: a wall for. But I don't know if that works necessarily.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: I mean it works, I don't know if he has
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: what it takes to get the entirety of a team,
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: And that does seem like an odd fit.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: When you got cam Ward.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I would feel like you'd want an
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: offensive minded coach to go in there and try to
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: help him flourish. But then again, they're the Tennessee Titans,
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: who that's what they're thinking.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I'll guarantee you this, he won't sign Aaron Rodgers. True, Yeah,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: go ahead, put that down.
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: I think he could probably guarantee that, but.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: It leaves us in this odd situation because I was
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: asked by coach off the area yesterday about whether or
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: not Sala will get a job, and I'm like, I
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: think that he will, but I think it's probably gonna
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: be at one of the jobs that's not as attractive
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: like the Arizona Tennessee a situations, And that's what he
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: ended up with, and he grabbed one when he had
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to do it. But there are still there
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: are now three teams out there with head coaching vacancies
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: who made really bold decisions Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, and I
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: guess Tomlin sort of made the decision on his own.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I guess we don't know for sure, but.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: There's are organizations that are still trying to win now.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, the owners of the Pittsburgh Steelers came out
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: and said, we don't even believe in rebuilds.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: We're gonna try to win next year. So they're trying
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: to win now. And I told you this off the
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: air yesterday.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I think that there's a reason why over the weekend
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: that Adam Schefter is breaking head coaching hirings during playoff
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: football games.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: For goodness, sake.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I think everyone in the league knew that if Buffalo
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: got knocked out of the playoffs, Sean McDermott was gone,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and we better go get Stefanski locked up, we get
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Hardball locked up. Enough of this, he's agreed but hasn't signed,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: and we better get lafleor locked up, because if that
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: job becomes available, those head coaches might put the you know,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: stop what they're doing because they would be about to ruin. Yeah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: they would, you know, signing with another team because you
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: can talk about wherever you want like money, contract, salary, location,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: where you want to live, where you want to move
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: your family. NFL head coaches can get the best quarterback
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: arguably in the NFL.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: In his prime. I mean, they're going to climb over
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: broken glass for that job.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: So I don't think it was a coincidence that we
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: kept seeing Adam Schefter breaking news stories about the top
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: three candidates out on the market, potentially all locking up
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: long term deals before the Bills.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Could even be eliminated from the playoffs. And now the
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Bills have got to find an upgrade to Sean McDermott,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: and I don't know who on the market right now
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: represents that unless they're going to steal somebody away from
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: another team. Yeah, I don't know either.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: Unless yeah, and unless it would be Mike Tomlin would
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: probably be the one that I would think would maybe be.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: And I don't know if it's an upgrade or not.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know it either.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds like the same kind of coach.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Same type of thing, somebody that's going to make you good,
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: but or is it enough to take you over the top.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe a change of scenery for him
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: does that. I'm with you.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: I I agree with you one hundred percent that whatever
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: was holding John Harbaugh and the Giants from figuring out,
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: let's get that on the dotted line, let's go ahead
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: and get this done. And I think that they were like, yeah,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: we might want to get that done before the opportunity
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: to coach Josh Allen. And because I I mean, I
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: don't wholeheartedly agree with what the Bills are doing. I
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: understand it's a it's a lesson of that you're going
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: for greatness, not just being really good, and you have
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: fallen short of that now. I just in one like, boy,
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: good luck finding somebody that's going to be better now,
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: you if you think you got something somebody somewhere that
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: is like a neck next the next Mike McDonald, some young,
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: upcoming jumpstart guy that just can takes everything to the
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: next level, and you have still have Josh Allen, then
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: go ahead.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: And do that.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: If you don't.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: To me, it feels like, boy, you could be looking
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: from the other side of the fence and realize the
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: grass was still pretty green, the one that you made
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: the change on.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: But I'm with you.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: I think that there's some of those teams where like,
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: we better get this thing done otherwise the Kevin Stefanski's
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: of the world are not going to choose. I guess
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: they maybe could choose Michael Pennix over Josh Allen, but
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: No, they wouldn't.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: But look, I mean, yeah, I mean this situation is
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: one that I get that people are like, man, be
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: careful what you're doing.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: But at some point you do.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Have to make a decision of like, we've given this guy.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: It's not like they gave Sean McDermott just a short
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: period of time. Yeah, I'm a long period of time
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: to try to get to the super Bowl. And I
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: would think that you are looking for somebody that has
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: done it before, and sometimes it just takes a different whisperer.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Tony Dungee was a great head coach, great at Hall
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: of Famer, He's in the Hall of Fame, and yet
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: there was this feeling in Tampa like, we need somebody
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: a little more aggressive.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: He's just way too conservative.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: And so they go get John Gruden the next year,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: and they take the same ingredients and they win the
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: championship the very next year. And I don't think John
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Gruden's a better head coach than Tony Dungee, But sometimes
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: it just takes I mean, Denver's the perfect situation, perfect
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: example of this. Dan Reeves was a phenomenal head coach,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: great leader at one of the great presents I've ever
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: been around Dan Reeves. But John Elway was like, we're
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: not gonna win a Super Bowl if we keep doing
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: it this way, We're just gonna get there and get
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: knocked off. We need somebody more innovative. We need somebody
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: that takes more chances. We need somebody that takes more risks,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: we need a different voice. They go get Mike Shanahan,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: they win two Super Bowls. I mean, so I do
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: agree with the Shawn dermott decision. I think he was
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: very good. I hope he lands on his feet. If
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I'm Arizona or one of these other vacancies, I'm calling
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Sean McDermott to see if he wants to be my
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: head coach. But Buffalo, I feel had to try something
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: different than what they were doing because you just can't
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: keep saying, well, Josh is still young, we didn't have
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: eleven win season. At some point you got to rattle
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: that cage a little bit, even if it's rattling the
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: players who were all in teers after the games, and
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I think they're all in teers over Sean McDermott being
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: let go. But this might be the message that says, hey,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: get it done next year, shake it up a little bit.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: And but now it comes the difficult part of who's
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: that going to be because I don't really see an
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: obvious guy out there that puts you over the top.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure I know they've got a plan. There's
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: no way they fired Sean McDermott yesterday without having oh,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: now what are we going to do?
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: No, they've thought about it before we fire him. Yeah,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: so they've done it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: But now comes the part of who's that guy going
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: to be the who's the whisper that gets you.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Over the top. Yeah, And I don't know, I don't
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: know who it is.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, just to me, it's the idea of always
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: looking for what's best or what's better versus well, I
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: guess at the same time, you're going for what's best.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: I just don't know for sure if what's best is
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: available out there. I think they're going to have to
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: go down the route of somebody that isn't necessarily proven,
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: but they believe wholeheartedly. And what it is that how
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: he can be that different voice that comes in and
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: changes things even though there's not a ton that needs
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: to be changed.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, it's like you can't.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: I don't think Jean McDermott has anything to do with
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: like the the the game against the Chiefs that basically
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: it was how they when it was that back and
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: forth game and both teams played great, and yet Patrick
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Mahomes and the Chiefs ended up winning, going on and
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: and winning the whole thing. And to me, that's like,
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: I don't even know how that would be any blame anyway,
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: as much as it is just credit somewhere else and after. Yeah,
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: he has been around for a while, but he's been
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: like the winning this coach over the course at that
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: same time, I mean, of the entire NFL, he's been
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: the most winning his coach.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: To me, it feels odd, and yet it is what
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: They obviously were tired of it, and they know more
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: about what's going on inside that room. If if the
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: ears are becoming deaf to his voice, they know that
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: far more than I do, and so they decided, no,
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: We're gonna go out and get something that just to
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: me feels like, I don't know, it doesn't seem Mike
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: Tomlin is the only one that I think that you
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: could say that maybe is a better coach, playing and
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: simple than Sean McDermott, because he has won one before
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: and so maybe his voice changes the narrative and changes
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: the way in which they it gets them over the top.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: Outside of that, it has to be then somebody like
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: a Mike McDonald or you find the next Sean McVay,
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: and you find I just don't know if those guys
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: grow on trees and you can find yourself looking back
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: at Wow, we had double digit wins every year We're
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: always in the playoffs. We always won at least one
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: playoff game. We just couldn't quite get over that that hump.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: And now you can find yourself trying to find a
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: new coach and wasting a couple more years of Josh
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: Allen's prime.
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's just interesting, especially in this situation, because I
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: do feel like McDermott had to do a lot with
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: the least amount he's had in the last couple of years,
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: especially as far as receivers go, and they still won,
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: and they still made it to the playoffs, and it
• 31:20
  Speaker 8: was a heartbreaker of a game.
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: It's not like they got blown out by Denver. So
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: I don't know. It just it seemed like an extra
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: gut punch to him. I guess.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I think it was the right thing.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: I just do, and I get the decision, And I
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: think maybe that emotional cloud that was developed, all those
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: tears that were shed, that might be good for professional athletes.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe you were too close to your coach, Maybe you
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: were maybe it was too friendly around there. Maybe you
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: need to hear him enough. Yeah, maybe you need somebody
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: to come in here, a whip cracker or something like that,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: or maybe somebody that brings a little more innovation to
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: what you're doing. That can just shake it up a
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: little bit. If nothing else, just we didn't get the
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: job done. We really like Sean McDermott, and because we
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: didn't get the job done.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: He's out of a job. We still have our jobs,
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: he's out of a job.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Even that can be a powerful influencer heading into the offseason,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: a reminder of hey, we don't get to play this
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: game forever. We better figure out how to get to
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: that next step, because we don't want to be that
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: team that's remembered historically as having eleven wins seasons every
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: year and never got to the super Bowl. That is
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: a bad tag to live down for the rest of
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: your life. So I think it was time. I think
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: he was given plenty of chances. I'm not putting the
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: blame at his feet, but I think it was time
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: for Buffalo to get a different voice, a different leader,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: to see if that person can find the right ingredients
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  Speaker 2: to get them over the top. All right, coming up
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  Speaker 2: next on the program, Jean Stertor is going to join
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  Speaker 2: us at eight o'clock, and certainly you know we're going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about PI and how it's kind of officiated,
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  Speaker 2: and I think maybe inconsistently on every level. We'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about that next Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Sandwich looks really good, by the way, Gene and
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  Speaker 3: I love one of those level.
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  Speaker 4: Bye to that.
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  Speaker 2: But so he's going to join us at eight o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: We had a lot of things to discuss. I mean, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: emotions run high this time of the year around the playoffs, and.
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  Speaker 3: The officiating game sort of changes it.
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  Speaker 2: It just feels like to me, I mean we just
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  Speaker 2: watched the college game last night, and you know what,
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  Speaker 2: they let everything go. They certainly were letting p I
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  Speaker 2: go all night long. But you know what they didn't change.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't change the closer you got down the stretch.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know this from baseball. If you're going
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: to call that pitch outside on an inch, I just
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  Speaker 2: need to know. I just need to know what I'm
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  Speaker 2: up against. Don't then call it a ball. Don't call
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  Speaker 2: it a ball and then a strike on the next
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  Speaker 2: on the very next pitch, I need to know what
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  Speaker 2: your strike zone is. And I can live with it
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  Speaker 2: if it's a little outside the strike zone, but I
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  Speaker 2: just need to know. I don't want to get in
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  Speaker 2: the seventh inning and now all of a sudden, that
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  Speaker 2: pitch that you called a ball, you now call strike.
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  Speaker 2: You know, So that to me, is it about for
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  Speaker 2: an official. I don't care what sport you're officiating, just
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  Speaker 2: be consistent. Last night they let him play and sort
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  Speaker 2: of to an aggressive standpoint that O'Connor, that was a
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  Speaker 2: PI every pass play that he was involved in.
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  Speaker 3: He was interfering with the receiver, but they weren't calling
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  Speaker 3: it on either side. Man, I can live with that.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna tell you, Bucky, I was sitting there
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  Speaker 2: holding my breath, thinking to myself, this game's going to
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: be decided in the fourth quarter by somebody deciding to
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  Speaker 2: finally call PI after letting them play three and a
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  Speaker 2: half quarters just beating each other up on every single
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  Speaker 2: pass play.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what I was worried about. But that never occurred. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'll give you that one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it was as long as you don't let
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  Speaker 5: him play, and you know, swallow your whistle or whatever,
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: tuck your flag in your pocket and don't call it,
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  Speaker 5: and then call it it the most inopportune and time
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  Speaker 5: for one team when it's been going on with both teams,
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  Speaker 5: then yeah, I mean I can live with it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want it that way.
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  Speaker 5: I want it to be done early, like it's like
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  Speaker 5: setting the tone, like I I don't want to quick
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  Speaker 5: and in a hurry, you know, roughing the passer penalty,
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  Speaker 5: just because I want to make sure that everybody understands
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  Speaker 5: we are going to protect these quarterbacks. At the same time,
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  Speaker 5: I don't want you to not call one if it's
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  Speaker 5: if it's because I don't want it to get to
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  Speaker 5: a place where all of a sudden, people are doing
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  Speaker 5: a payback because we think you were dirty in this situation.
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  Speaker 3: And so I mean I I am. I'm usually one
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  Speaker 3: that's for letting them play.
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  Speaker 5: At the same time, I think there comes a point
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  Speaker 5: in time when you go, man, this is getting I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it's they're all over them. And to me, when it
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  Speaker 5: comes to the PI situation, it's it's not an easy thing.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I have to think in real time are
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  Speaker 5: very difficult.
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  Speaker 3: And yet they don't. None of them are consistent.
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  Speaker 5: But it's to me, it's the idea of catching up
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  Speaker 5: and it's are more difficult to be a dB than
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  Speaker 5: it is a wide receiver. For the way in which
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  Speaker 5: the rules are set up and the fact that now
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  Speaker 5: you're seeing people underthrow balls, I think somewhat intentionally at times.
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  Speaker 3: To get that PI.
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  Speaker 5: If you got great coverage, you're literating in the guy's
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  Speaker 5: back pocket and there's hand fighting, there's contact going even
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  Speaker 5: beyond the point of like the tripping each other up,
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  Speaker 5: because that doesn't happen if you've got two yard separation
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  Speaker 5: by the guy, there's no tripping them, your legs don't
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  Speaker 5: get tangled if but if you're right in the guy's
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  Speaker 5: back pocket and you're then turning around and you're you're
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: bumping into them, there's contact before the ball gets there.
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  Speaker 5: That's part of great coverage. There's no space for me
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  Speaker 5: to not make contact. When you're beat by a yard
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  Speaker 5: and a half and you see him start turning around
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  Speaker 5: and they're reaching out the same time, grabbing arms, trying
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  Speaker 5: to pull guys back, like, oh crap, I'm gonna this
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  Speaker 5: is bad. Then you gotta throw that one. Whether you
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: have been thrown one or not throwing one, those ones
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  Speaker 5: should be called that same type of one from the
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  Speaker 5: first quarter to the fourth quarter in overtime, and at
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  Speaker 5: the same time, it's not that easy obviously in real time,
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  Speaker 5: because you have a hard time seeing any game that
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  Speaker 5: is called exactly the same across the board.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think I know what you're talking about. You're
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: talking about the Broncos plays that we disagreed on yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: and so I'll just say this, I won't even use
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  Speaker 2: my opinion. I've heard fifteen different officials weigh in on this,
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  Speaker 2: and eight of them think the way you do, and
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  Speaker 2: seven of them think the way that I do. And
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  Speaker 2: so that to me is a problem. That to me
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  Speaker 2: is players going on a football field not knowing what
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: PI is and not knowing whether or not you're going
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  Speaker 2: to let us play down the stretch or what I
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: felt in the case with Denver is they decided to
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  Speaker 2: actually tighten it up with their calls, and so there
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  Speaker 2: seems to I mean, I heard CBS rules analysts, not
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: CBS rules.
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  Speaker 3: It's not Eugene.
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  Speaker 2: All the rules analysts on all the networks, and they
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  Speaker 2: all had different opinions about it PI all day long,
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  Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday. If the four greatest former NFL officials
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  Speaker 2: of all time don't see idawi on this stuff, then
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  Speaker 2: we need to figure out clearer define rules for it
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  Speaker 2: because it's very confusing. And if it's confusing for us,
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  Speaker 2: imagine how confusing it is for a cornerback or a
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: safety trying to cover with their season on the line,
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  Speaker 2: not knowing what kind of contact is allowed.
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  Speaker 8: And what is well, and imagine how confusing it is
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  Speaker 8: for the ref trying to call it if nobody knows
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  Speaker 8: really what is and what isn't too all of them all.
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  Speaker 2: I wants consistency, and I at least got that last
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  Speaker 2: night from that crew, and it felt at times like, man,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna call that, And yet that's they just
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: let them play all night long, and like they let
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: them play. In the Seahawks forty nine Ers game, there
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: were four penalties called that entire game. Hugh Talks talked
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: to us yesterday, said they're like four or five different
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: plays the Seahawks could have been called for holding on
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: during the course of that forty nine Ers game. But
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: they clearly came into the game and we're going to like,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: we're gonna let you get away with a few more things,
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  Speaker 2: and they didn't change it. Now the game got out
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  Speaker 2: of control, So officiating really didn't affect the Seahawks forty
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  Speaker 2: nine Ers outcome all that much, but nonetheless, it's very
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  Speaker 2: clear that that crew is gonna let a little more
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  Speaker 2: go in that game.
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  Speaker 3: And I like games like that as.
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  Speaker 2: Long as I know that's what we're up against. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's what we're doing. We're just gonna let a little
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  Speaker 2: more go this time. We'll ask Gene about that next.
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