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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Saturday, March second. I'm your host,
- 0:03Tom Moore. The Akron game is in one hundred and eighty two days.
- 0:06I'll do the math for you. Twenty six weeks almost there, twenty six
- 0:09weeks, just half a year away. The game against Michigan in two hundred
- 0:12and seventy three days. Good news. Spring football a lot closer than that.
- 0:17That starts on Tuesday at the Woody Hayes Athletics Center, and today we're
- 0:20going to be looking at the Ohio State defense and some of the storylines to
- 0:23watch on that side of the ball this spring during those fifteen practices culminating in
- 0:28the spring game on April thirteenth, and we're going to be doing it once
- 0:31again with Ross Fulton. He is the ex's and OS guru at Buckeye Huddle
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- 1:00reservations about the start of the show, but we're just going to power on
- 1:03through and we are going to talk about the Ohio State Defense today. They're
- 1:07just sort of looking at what are the sort of storylines that you're watching,
- 1:10What are the things you're looking for when we get to watch practice windows,
- 1:14when we get to watch the spring game at the end of the spring.
- 1:17I guess first, let's start with year three of the Gymnoles defense. Year
- 1:21one was kind of well, they're just put kind of installing it and everyone's
- 1:25sort of figuring it out on the fly. Year two looked a lot better.
- 1:29Year three, Boy, there's a lot of talent back, and there's
- 1:32a lot of returning starters, and it feels like they could do a whole
- 1:36lot of different stuff this year if they wanted to. Yeah. Absolutely,
- 1:40I mean it's been It's funny because every three years, I feel like the
- 1:45scheme has shifted quite a bit from time to time like the and I guess
- 1:51maybe some of that's personnel driven because last year, you know, prior to
- 1:56you could make a clear demarcation between before and after Leath and Ransom's injury,
- 2:00and the scheme changed a lot between those times. Prior to Ransom's injury,
- 2:07they're playing a lot more cover one man mixing in some cover two. And
- 2:12then afterwards, you know, as we talked about, like, you know,
- 2:15it was noticeable both against Michigan, Missouri's just a lot of soft country
- 2:20cover four, soft zone. Uh. And I guess, you know,
- 2:23maybe to protect you know, having sunny styles of deep safety instead of Leith
- 2:28and Ransom. But so they've they've used a lot of concepts. So again
- 2:30I think that it will be interesting to see what is the emphasis in spring,
- 2:36because again, as we talked about the offense, like you tend to
- 2:38put in your base defense early, and you know, they certainly have the
- 2:43personnelity to go back to playing a lot of man coverage if they want to,
- 2:47you know, with the three corners and with Kale downs coming in with
- 2:53in Ransom's return, So again it would be interesting, you know, do
- 2:55they go that route, do they mix in more complex cover four coverages some
- 3:00of all the above, but that that coverage mix will probably be the first
- 3:05thing I'm looking for. And how much of that, you know, the
- 3:09different coverages and the variety of coverages, how much of that is stuff you're
- 3:13actually going to see in the spring versus how much of that is more of
- 3:16a later in the year installing. You're just kind of doing the base stuff
- 3:20right now. Yeah, well, I guess you know, there's always you
- 3:24have to always be a little careful with over reading into the few things you
- 3:29see in the spring. But again, like I to me, it's telling
- 3:31what they themselves consider their base defense. You know, what are they focusing
- 3:37on? Its spring? It's what are you know, when we're just making
- 3:38our basic defensive call? What is it? You know, as I cover
- 3:44one for instance, you know, is it our nickel package? What are
- 3:47what are we doing as are sort of this is what we installed the first
- 3:52day of camp. So looking at personnel now and this feels like this could
- 3:59very easily turn into that old Chris Farley Chris Farley Talk Show sketch from Saturday
- 4:03Night Live where he has Paul mccartley. Paul McCartney on He's like you know,
- 4:08hey, remember when you were in the Beatles. That was awesome.
- 4:10It feels like you could kind of have that conversation with a lot of the
- 4:13different elements of this year's Ohio State defense because way, they were pretty good
- 4:15last year, and yeah, they got a whole bunch of guys back,
- 4:17and oh yeah, they also added Caleb Downs. And Caleb Downs is a
- 4:23pretty unique talent. When you listen to coaches talk about what makes him special,
- 4:27like it's a very long answer because there's a lot of different elements that
- 4:30make him special. What is adding someone like that to this defense because they're
- 4:34losing Josh Proctor, who was that adjuster safety last year? What is bringing
- 4:38in someone like Caleb Downs do to not only maintain the level of the Ohio
- 4:42State defense this spring, but potentially raise it. Yeah, I mean,
- 4:46is solid a season as I thought Josh Proctor had last year at that field
- 4:50safety adjuster spot, like he was still somewhat limited, Like he clearly was
- 4:54more comfortable closer to the line of scrimmage, and you know, wasn't a
- 4:59person that you could ask to be in man coverage a lot to now with.
- 5:01I mean, Caleb Downs can do basically everything. You know, you
- 5:06have Leithan Ranson who's much more comfortable. As I said, in man coverage,
- 5:10you know, you can't really count on Study Styles being a man defender
- 5:14on a slot wide receiver. So when you put that together, you know,
- 5:18you just have a lot more flexibility. You can respond easier to motions
- 5:23and shifts with them flip flopping roles, you can do a lot more coverage
- 5:28wise, whether as I said in sort of match cover four or you know,
- 5:31if you want to play man coverage and count on one of them to
- 5:34handle the tight end or slot receiver, it just gives you a lot more
- 5:39versatility, Like you have a much higher bar at the safety position then,
- 5:43you know, particularly as I said at the end of the year, where
- 5:45they had to be pretty limited to I think to protect Procter and Styles,
- 5:49who are both bigger guys who are more comfortable close to the line of scrimmage.
- 5:54Unless you know, as deep safeties are in man coverage, well,
- 6:00the Styles feels like he might be a little bit the odd man out in
- 6:02that safety rotation this year. Because you've got Lathan Ransom back, You've now
- 6:06got Caleb Downs. You got to figure both of those guys are playing.
- 6:09You got Malie Hartford behind downs to provide some quality depth there. You've got
- 6:14Jordan Hancock at the nickel spot, and so it feels like you're kind of
- 6:16out of places for Sunny styles to play. In the safety room. It
- 6:20sounds like he's probably going to open the spring in that safety room. All
- 6:25the indications have been that there is not a positional change yet, but we've
- 6:29been talking for months about the fact that it feels like a positional change might
- 6:31be in everyone's best interest this spring. You know, what do you what
- 6:35are you thinking that the deciding factor is there? What are you thinking,
- 6:40you know, would make a move to linebacker potentially a beneficial one for him?
- 6:44Or do you think he maybe should stay at safety and they just have
- 6:46a bunch of extra good safeties. Well, I think if he says the
- 6:49safety, he's not going to play and so he'll be on the bench.
- 6:53And so I would I mean, if I were advising him, I would
- 6:56tell him to move to linebackers. So, like what you have to keep
- 6:58in mind last year Hill Ransom's injury right, like he was a linebacker.
- 7:02Like you can call it a nickel whatever you want to call it, but
- 7:04like he was the sam linebacker against twelve personnel and then when teams would put
- 7:10three wide receivers on the field, they take them off. And like what
- 7:14we can't know for certain because Lathan Ransom happen to get injured in that Wisconsin
- 7:18game, but like Wisconsin game was pretty noticeable that like even when they went
- 7:24twelve personnel, they did not take Jordan Hancock off the field and said they
- 7:27gave styles an occasional They gave him like a series or two at filling in
- 7:32for Josh Procter to get him some reps on the field, but like he
- 7:36wasn't part of the regular rotation. And so I you know, I personally
- 7:43think Ohio States defense is worse off if they take Jordan Hancock off the field.
- 7:47I think he is stout enough against the run and he gives you so
- 7:50much Morgans coverages. Like I suppose there are situations where you're playing a Michigan
- 7:56and they're in heavy personnel that you're gonna like want someone there, but like
- 7:59that they you know, I would be telling Sunny Styles like that's a very
- 8:03situational role, Like you're maybe getting fifteen percent of the total snaps of the
- 8:09first sharing defense maybe and so again I just don't He's not a safety that
- 8:15Lathan Ranson and Caleb Downs are, Like, He's pretty limited, So I
- 8:20personally would move like I think conversely, like if he doesn't start the spring
- 8:24it you know, linebacker, Like every day that he's not there is a
- 8:31wasted chance to get reps. Like that's a that is like a position change
- 8:35in terms of being an interior linebacker and filling. So, I mean,
- 8:39I think the choice is between like him being a part time, you know
- 8:43player at best and having the opportunity to play all the time. So I
- 8:48you know, I don't think they should use I mean, I guess you
- 8:52could say it's a question of like how much they want to use more like
- 8:54a three linebacker looks as opposed to what they did last year. I just
- 8:58think Jordan Hancock's one of their best eleven and so like I would, I'd
- 9:03want him off the field as little as boss ball. And if they do
- 9:07just play two linebackers, which it would be for four defensive linemen, two
- 9:11linebackers and then the five defensive backs, if you got Hancock out there,
- 9:15there's no returning starters there technically. I mean Cody Simon I think has started
- 9:18a little bit before. He's I think someone that you kind of pencil in
- 9:22for sort of towards the top of the line in terms of number of expected
- 9:26reps this fall. But then you've got potentially, you know, maybe Styles
- 9:31is there, maybe he's not, but you've still got gay powers, You've
- 9:33got CJ. Hicks. I mean, that's a room that's got some talented,
- 9:37intriguing players who we've heard a lot about and we haven't really seen play
- 9:43a lot of linebacker at Ohio State. So you know, what are you
- 9:46looking for there? What is going to be the deciding factor there in terms
- 9:50of which of those guys maybe gets this one of the starting jobs this fall?
- 9:54Yeah, I mean I to me, like, Cody Simon is a
- 9:56returning starter. Like he played a lot last year. He was very good.
- 10:01He was very good at Mike against Missouri. So it's really but that's
- 10:05like the one really open position on the defense, and it's a critical one.
- 10:11You know, not to say that that Steel Chambers was a great will
- 10:15linebacker, but he was certainly serviceable. And you know, I to me,
- 10:20like, what's going to be the difference there? Is like who can
- 10:24can read their keys correctly and read and react and fill the gaps. You
- 10:30know, I have said on Buckey Huddle before that you know, what I've
- 10:35seen out of CJ. Hicks for the most part, unfortunately, has not
- 10:39been particularly encouraging in that front in terms of reading keys and reacting. Like,
- 10:43you know, someone could be the greatest athlete in the world, but
- 10:46like you know, it does take a certain type of skill to be able
- 10:50to fill holes and do what you're supposed to do in the defense. So
- 10:54I you know that that to me is going to be like a big deciding
- 11:00factor. And yeah, I would say that, you know, almost maybe
- 11:05besides the fifth offensive line spot, I would say will linebackers like the biggest
- 11:11question mark in terms of like you know, I personally think Sunny Style is
- 11:15going to play there, as I said, but like you know, the
- 11:18more time they spend with him not playing there, I guess that would concern
- 11:20me more. But it's sort of like anyone's gas in terms of how that
- 11:26might shake out. Well, we will see how that starts shaking out next
- 11:30Tuesday when the Buckeyes open spring football fifteen practices. Culminating in that spring game
- 11:35on April thirteenth. We're looking forward to seeing as much of it as we
- 11:39possibly can, and when we whatever we get to see, we will tell
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