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The myths, costs, and consequences of industrial wind power · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

• 0:11
  Hello, this is Todd Royal, your host for Geopower, Energy, and Real Politics.
• 0:16
  Today, I'm going to be going real fast and I'm going to give you a lot of information.
• 0:21
  Here's why.
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  Texas and most of the South right now is about to have a polar vortex Arctic blast.
• 0:28
  This is going to be reminiscent of February 2021 when Texas went into a five, six, seven day blackout in certain parts of the state and wind energy, the wind stopped blowing.
• 0:39
  We're going to tell you today exactly why the wind does not work for an electrical grid.
• 0:45
  As a background, I'd written a piece for the National Science Foundation on wind about a year, year and a half ago, compiled whole lot of data, a lot of sources that I will eventually write a series of pieces on.
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  But I thought it was very important to talk about this today because what I'm telling you is wind energy doesn't work.
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  Now let me tell you why.
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  An electrical grid has to do three things.
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  Or you can do what's called baseload electrical generation or baseload electricity.
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  That means when you're looking at right now in your office, wherever you're listening to this, your home, your car, the lights are on, maybe not your car.
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  The lights are on if you have an electric vehicle, it came to this.
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  That is baseload.
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  So right now you are receiving electricity.
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  And typically the only things that can provide 247, 365 to pat dispatchable baseload electricity is either nuclear power or fossil fuels.
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  Hydroelectric can sometimes do it, though.
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  If you have a drought, that means the dam is not going to work the way it is in many ways, they can become a giant battery.
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  But I most grids in America, you're only allowed one interruption every 10 years.
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  So you're looking at something that's 99.99999 repeating always on.
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  Any kind of life-saving uh manufacturing hospitals, um, your electrical grid needs something that is on all the time.
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  Wind cannot do it.
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  If you go back and look, what actually saved uh the Texas grid, it was natural gas.
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  What actually crashed the grid was the lack of wind power.
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  You can also look at there wasn't weatherization of fossil fuel plants, in particular natural gas.
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  Also the same thing you could say with nuclear power, one of the nuclear plants that actually needed to shut down as well.
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  Those are that is all true.
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  But when you really think, how did that happen?
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  How did you go into blackout?
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  How did Spain go into blackout a number of months ago?
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  It's renewables.
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  The wind doesn't always blow and the sun doesn't always shine, but you'll hear things.
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  Oh, it's the cheapest thing possible.
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  No, the marginal cost of what's going into that grid, which is free.
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  Yes, when the sun is shining, it's free.
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  When the wind is blowing, it's free.
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  But typically, when things get very hot, very cold, or even cloudy, that's when you have major problems.
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  And grids, societies, hospitals, manufacturing, that's when those things stop working.
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  Um, there's machinery that please go look this up where you can find if it does not have full sustainable um always on power, you can literally blow up multi-million dollar manufacturing plants, even into the billions of dollars.
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  So let me tell you, let's go, let's get into this.
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  And I'm gonna I'm gonna talk real fast here.
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  I'm gonna give you a lot, but I want you to look at the show notes.
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  Um, when you think about this, here's our introductions.
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  Wind it can contribute meaningfully to large modern electric grids, but their benefits to the power system, their modularity, their low uh marginal cost have to be balanced against their short term, their shortcomings.
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  They're intermittent, they need large land areas, transmission requirements are it takes two power power poles, electrical lines to come out of a uh nuclear plant, fossil fuel plant.
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  Typically, you're looking between eight, 10 or 12 power lines.
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  Um they use simpler equipment.
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  They're vulnerable to unexpected shifts in frequency, and they do not provide the spinning or synthetic inertia that can compensate for grid frequency fluctuations.
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  Think of it this way those are big fancy terms that means your grid has to have a certain amount of power, it has to spin a certain amount the turbines, and if they don't, then it will crash.
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  You will have blackouts.
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  Um, we certainly saw that in what went on in the Texas grid in 21 and the Iberian uh peninsula in uh late 2025.
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  Um, these are non-negotiable things.
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  Uh, you then have to have grid enhancing equipment and reliability that has to occur alongside of a wind farm.
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  Um, you have to have this in advance, and if you get significant penetration of wind and solar too, but on a power grid, but we're gonna focus on wind.
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  Here's a way to think about it.
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  The IEA had a 2021 report that said to achieve a high share of renewables, the first step is develop a new way for inverters to operate when they start dominating the system.
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  An inverter is a way that you have to take the power and put it onto the grid.
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  That does not occur.
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  You'll hear it typically called an inverter-based system.
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  Because a wind farm has very low energy density, it has to have extra power that's taken by an inverter.
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  That's a very simple way to say it.
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  And I understand people can argue with me, but we have limited time here, and I'm trying to get terms to you that you can understand and listen.
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  Interestingly enough, U.S.
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  Secretary of Energy Chris Wright talked about this multiple times during his confirmation.
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  He said over a year ago that a grid, let's just take U.S.
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  energy that you need three things.
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  They need to be reliable, affordable, and secure.
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  Wind power is none of these things.
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  In fact, it's the opposite of all three things.
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  They're not reliable because they're intermittent.
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  They're not affordable because they are just about the most expensive way that you can do electricity.
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  And if someone thinks I'm wrong, ask me why have the rates in Texas gone up.
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  Why's California gone up?
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  Republican and Democratic state.
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  Why is the EU literally deindustrializing right now?
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  Why is Germany deindustrializing?
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  Why has their prime minister Frederick Merck said we were wrong to turn off our nuclear power plants?
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  Why is the United Kingdom literally becoming a failed and collapsed state as we've talked about in previous pod uh previous episodes before?
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  It's because they don't have any energy, which means they have no electricity because of their over-reliance of onshore and offshore wind.
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  When I did my research, I came up with a number of what I referred to as challenges that I'm going to write future article over.
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  Future articles are going to be written about this.
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  So let's talk about this.
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  I'm going to, we're going to deep dive into this.
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  The show notes are going to have all of these as references as well for you to explore further.
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  Um, because again, Texas is and big chunks of the south uh southeast part of the United States.
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  People that rely on wind, they think, oh, build wind turbines down the middle of the country.
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  Dumbest thing you could do along with a solar panel.
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  The reason why they are intermittent.
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  You're about to have freezing temperatures, snow, ice, that for days at a time, you will have no wind power.
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  But they'll sit there and go, oh, but it has this nameplate capacity.
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  It has this rated capacity.
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  Those are fancy terms that grid operators use.
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  The only thing you should ever be concerned about is what is the capacity factor?
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  How long does this thing run?
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  When I go to turn on my heat here in a few days, is the electricity there from that wind turbine to heat my home?
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  The answer is gonna be no.
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  Okay, let's talk about some things.
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  How are wind turbines built?
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  I'm gonna go through every just about every factor you can look at here.
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  And here we go, and it's gonna be fast because I want to get all of this in one episode, and I got about 55 minutes to do this.
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  First off, wind turbine blades are built using balsa wood, which is obtained by the deforestazation of the Amazon force.
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  That's what makes them so expensive.
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  So you're telling me if you believe in climate change and you believe that I've heard this, the Amazon force, the rainforest, it's the lungs of the earth, whatever that ridiculous statement means.
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  Why are you chopping down balsa wood to make a wind turbine that needs sometimes 300 to 700 times more land than a nuclear power plant, a natural gas plant or a coal-fired plant needs based on energy density or just the actual land it needs to match exactly what that what those power plants need.
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  So you're gonna deforce the Amazon force for a wind turbine blade when you're scared to death about climate change and global warming.
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  Doesn't make doesn't make sense.
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  Now, let's get into it further.
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  I wrote a book with Ron Stein called Clean Energy Exploitations.
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  And let me just tell you what.
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  Else is in these things.
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  And remember, everything that I'm about to tell you, and everything that it needs, all of this is mined, processed, refined, transported, put together, used, lubricated with, and ultimately decommissioned and even operated and maintained using fossil fuels.
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  There is nothing green about a wind turbine, whether onshore, offshore, a battery, an electric vehicle, a solar panel.
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  But let's just stick with wind turbines today.
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  Wind turbines contain concrete, carbon fiber, steel, cast iron, copper, aluminum, boron, chromium, cobalt, uh, magganese, mala, molybdenum, nickel, and other rare earth elements.
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  Some of these various energy minerals are mined using child labor in Africa.
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  That would be cobalt, enslaved labor in China.
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  China controls between 70 to 90% of all refining, processing, and mining of all rare earth metals and minerals like boron, chromium, cobalt, magnesium, uh, molybdum, nickel, and other rare earth elements.
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  Um, they'll talk about we talked about capacity factors.
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  We talked about how long can this thing last.
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  Many times these turbines will say we can operate up to 25 years.
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  Wrong.
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  They start having to be maintained after two years.
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  It's also estimated that currently um around 43 million tons of wind turbine, wind turbine blade waste could pile up by 2050.
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  I keep hearing net zero by 2050.
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  How am I going to meet net zero if I have all that waste that cannot be recycled?
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  It's a lie.
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  That's the equivalent of 215,000 locomotives.
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  And remember what I'm telling you, these are conservative estimates.
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  This is not green energy in any way, shape, or form.
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  It is a global fraud from beginning to end through the entire value chain.
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  I would argue with you, much like climate change is um the financial problems of are also numerous.
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  Now, let's talk about a few other things.
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  These wind turbine blades, we're taught we're told they're renewable and sustainable.
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  Absolutely not.
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  Wind turbine blades, whether they're on land or offshore, routinely kill tens of thousands of raptors, condors, uh, and other endangered birds, along with bats and insects.
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  Very important for your ecosystem, very important to see when you see a large magnitude of mosquitoes, which bats typically kill.
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  Don't be surprised if you see mosquito infestations because of wind turbines that are onshore or offshore nearby.
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  Um, offshore.
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  Let's talk about some of these harmful impacts.
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  Electromagnetic fields from undersea cables produce birth deformities in marine life.
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  We've seen that on the east coast.
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  We've seen dead whales, we've seen dolphins, particularly dead wells.
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  Michael Schellenberger's done fantastic work on this.
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  Um, these magnetic fields they disrupt the orientation abilities of some fish.
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  There's a low frequency operational noise that disrupts sounds made by fish, whales for mating, spawning, and navigating.
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  The turbines can increase sea surface temperatures and alter upper ocean uh hydrodynamics in ways scientists do not yet understand.
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  They can whip up sea sediment and they generate highly turbid wakes that are 30 to 150 meters wide and several kilometers in length, having a major impact on primary production by phytoplankton, which are the base of marine food chains.
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  Um take California, they have a plan to say we want 25,000 gigawatts of offshore wind capacity and floating wind farms 20 miles offshore at 10 megawatts each, California's, which is a world-class marine ecosystem will be would be disrupted by the presence of somewhere between 2500 floating wind turbines, each one nearly 1,000 feet high.
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  They will need 7500 tethering cables, descending 4,000 feet to the seafloor along with 2500 high voltage cables.
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  Raypayers and taxpayers to subsidize subsidize a project like that, it could cost 300 billion dollars or more to build systems that only have a lifespan of between 10 to 20 years.
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  That is not renewable.
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  Um tens of thousands of tons of metal, copper, steel, hundreds of kilometers.
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  You're talking about killing fish and redoing entire marine ecosystems.
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  Uh, please don't tell me those things are renewable.
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  The natural resources.
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  Now you get into this energy density issue.
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  The International Energy Agency had taken data that a geopolitical writer named Peter Zihon.
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  He calculated the mineral requirements for the power generation, comparing renewables like wind to natural gas in terms of kilograms of minerals.
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  I mean, these were earth metals and minerals uh that are, let's say, obviously dominated by China per megawatt of capacity.
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  I need this many minerals to make this amount of electricity.
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  That's that's all we're saying.
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  Very fancy terms, but that's what it means.
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  Offshore wind needs 16,000 kilograms per megawatt.
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  Onshore wind needs 10,000 kilograms per megawatt.
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  A natural gas plant needs 2,000 kilograms per megawatt, and typically a nuclear power plant is going to be between 4 to 2,000.
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  Some people can take and go lower than 2,000.
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  Uh, compounding the disparities, in fact, a natural gas plant can operate for upwards of 60 years.
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  40 is like the least amount that these can operate.
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  Whereas wind turbines, 10 to 20 years, some people say 30, they start having problems after two years.
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  Um, you then go the kilograms.
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  So think about that.
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  If I'm going to replace conventional energy, like natural gas, coal, or nuclear power with a wind turbine, I have I'm gonna have to have an expansion of world side of worldwide mining in nations with minimal environmental protections.
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  Get ready for slave labor, get ready for women to be raped, mutilated, killed, enslaved, children to be used to be put into mines where if the mine collapses on them and dies, who cares because slave warlords will either kill you, put you in a mine, slit your mother's throat in front of you.
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  If you don't believe me, go read Amnesty Amnesty International's report and look at some good reporting the New York Times has done on this.
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  You're never going to replace fossil fuels anytime soon with a wind turbine.
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  Whether if you go all the way back to 2022, 2021, or even recent data from the statistical review of World Energy, 82% of all global energy, not just electricity.
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  Electricity makes up about 20% of global energy, but all that means what I'm using for manufacturing, process heat, steam, electricity, transportation, roughly 81, some would, I would probably make the arguments about 87% of all global energy in the world comes from fossil fuels.
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  So for everyone on Earth, now let's think about this as an American.
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  For everyone on Earth currently, because remember, there's seven, there's about 8 billion people on Earth, 7 billion are than global South.
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  Most of them either don't have electricity or live with barely the amount of electricity that I as an American have to provide electricity to my refrigerator.
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  To give an example, approximately 600 million people in Africa have no electricity.
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  600 million people, there's about 350 million people in the United States.
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  So almost double the number every single person in the United States is under a blackout if you're an African in Africa currently.
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  But let's say for everyone on Earth to consume half as much energy per capita as Americans, global energy production will have to double.
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  Take these two cold facts.
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  Fossil fuels will be around for a very long time.
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  And even if the statistics I'm saying understate this challenge, even in 2023, most of the non-fossil fuel energy produced was from either nuclear or hydroelectric.
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  Roughly 4%, hydroelectric around 6.87.
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  Those numbers are basically still the same.
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  So of the, let's say the rest of it, the other 75% from renewables, well, two-thirds of that typically are biofuels, meaning I'm cutting down wood, wood chips, wood chips from wood from America gets put over to England into wood chips, which is a horribly dirty way to make um energy into electricity.
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  And that's considered renewable.
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  So when you look at the maximum capacity a wind turbine could do, maybe 1% for some of the reasons.
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  That's also I have to throw in the geothermal sources, meaning places like Iceland, which have you know natural hot creeks or volcanic structures underneath their lands that's creating electricity for them.
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  That's a fully that's a green.
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  That's a that is a true green grid because now I the marginal cost is free because I'm getting something that is.
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  The significant value that's typically always on and also there are no emissions.
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  That's a true renewable, sustainable source, but that's one tiny part of the earth.
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  So we're looking at what a few million people versus billions with either don't have electricity or barely have it.
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  Now here we go.
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  I'm gonna start taking through all that's that's our setup.
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  Our setup.
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  Now let's get into the challenges.
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  The wind industry is losing money.
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  I'm not even talking about what the Trump administration's done to it by saying this is the dumbest thing we could do, get rid of it.
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  But companies like uh British Petroleum and Equinor have continued losing billions on their offshore uh wind assets.
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  Please feel free to go look this stuff up.
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  Um, these companies cannot exit this enough.
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  G Vernova, if they were relying on their their wind turbine business, they would be out of business.
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  G Vernova makes money because they make natural, they make natural gas uh fired power plant turbines, and they've got years of back orders, and then they have maintenance contracts for the existing ones.
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  They lose money by the billions on their wind on their wind business because of all the different challenges I've already told you.
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  So let's let's start there.
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  When people tell me this is the cheapest way to make electricity, so you're telling me everybody from British petroleum to Ecuador to um G Vernova cannot figure out how to do this.
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  These are brilliant people.
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  These are global um multinational companies with a lot of really smart business people, scientists, and engineers, and they still lose billions.
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  Sorry, it doesn't, it doesn't pass the smell test.
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  Now, there are also major chemical pollutants and wind turbines.
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  Uh you cannot just go recycle a wind turbine.
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  So you also have to ask yourself so some of the things we're talking about earlier, these serious pollutants.
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  The questions have to need to be asked, though.
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  How do these pollutants don't permeate water tables when I put them in when I can't recycle them, I put them in a landfill, but yet you're going to attack fracking that doesn't even begin until 5,000 feet below water tables typically are at about 200 feet, but yet a wind turbine with major pollutants, and if it cracks, you will need to call in the EPA when these pollutants start to leak out into landfills, which can go into water tables.
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  No, by the way, none of that is regulated whatsoever.
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  So when you look at that, please don't tell me that this is renewable.
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  Please don't help tell me this supposedly takes care of your ridiculous concept of climate change, and certainly don't attack fracking that supplies the very things that you're using to be able to attack somebody like me with when if that wind turbine cracks and it gets into a water table, you will die if any of those pollutants get into your system.
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  So there's no way right now to dispose of them or recycle them without creating environmental hazards.
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  C fact.
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  Yep, they're right wing, uh, very anti-renewable.
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  So you go ahead and attack me on something like this.
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  See what they have to say.
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  They're offshore wind costs.
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  They have studies that show in no way can it be justified that offshore wind is lowering emissions.
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  Just based on what I've said already.
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  You may say, I can't stand C Fact.
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  Okay.
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  Go look at their sources, go attack them.
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  They'll be in my show notes.
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  Um, here's why global emissions from the mining, processing, manufacturing, transportation of what it takes to construct a wind turbine, and the other wind time wind uh farms offset any production from power production.
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  Um you may get some CO2 that's decreased, but it's going to be small because the intermittent of the necessary wind forces that mainly are fossil fuel power emissions to increase when the wind isn't blowing.
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  Because I have to have backup electricity from a battery energy storage system or grill or grid scale battery modules, are currently inherently expensive, and those are still reliant on raw materials that are in short supply.
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  I at one point in my career, I've done a value chain study on battery energy storage systems for grid scale, and 95% of all batteries globally typically come from lithium, which is one of the worst ways that you can mine it.
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  And if you don't believe me, go explore the lithium triangle down in South America.
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  So when the wind turbine is intermittent, it has to be backed up by a fossil fuel plant.
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  That's why any place that relies on renewables typically has um double, triple the electricity cost of other people.
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  And if you don't believe me, go look at California, the UK, Germany, I probably throw in most of the EU, but Denmark and Sweden.
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  Um Singapore's about to do, look at what Taiwan is doing by relying on this.
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  They're they're creating energy suicide.
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  Okay.
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  The NAS, not exactly um National Academy of Sciences.
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  Even they've done a study that talked about the talks about the concern of dead whales.
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  Um they've they've had a study that will be linked in the show notes that say well death surge in proximity to offshore winds sonar um activities.
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  Dead whales.
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  But again, this is renewable.
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  This is all renewable.
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  Let's remember that it's renewable.
• 25:51
  The National Academy of Scientists, they they uh released a report uh about a year and a half ago.
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  They their report is what's called as the dead ocean threat with a focus on the Nantucket region, beautiful part of the United States, specifically what are called the Nantucket Shoals.
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  It is a major feeding ground of the desperately endangered North Atlantic right well, R-I-G-H-T.
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  Um, it is a fantastic case study for all major offshore wind installations.
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  The report uncovers something strange but true.
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  Physics is technical, but the basic idea here is very simple.
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  Wind turbines take a lot of energy out of the air, it creates a lower energy weight behind the wind turbine facility.
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  Lower energy wind causes lower energy waves, so there is much less mixing in the ocean surface layer.
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  This depletes the oxygen level in the water, which can reduce the amount of living food sources that wells each, which can harm the whales on a population level.
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  This is why it is called the dead ocean effect.
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  Additionally, the New England Fisherman Stewardship Association said the string of whale deaths, 69 were documented less about a year and a half ago correlates with unprecedented development of offshore wind installations in the Atlantic Ocean.
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  Let's go to the next one.
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  The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and wind energy companies, they believe are complicit in state state-sanctioned modern-day butchery of marine mammals along the United States East Coast.
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  NOAA-issued permits allow each operator of wind turbines to kill or harass hundreds of wells annually.
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  This nonsense began under the supposedly Saint Barack Obama and his saintly administration, and they never did anything wrong, except you said that they could give um certificates, or you didn't have to really comply with the law because supposedly putting a wind turbine in the middle of the ocean is supposedly going to help global warming.
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  But if we kill endangered wells, who cares?
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  But what if fracking had done that?
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  What if a nuclear power plant had done that?
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  Those people would go to jail.
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  The hypocrisy of somebody like the Barack Obama administration is disgusting to me.
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  Now, let's talk about what the Trump administration had recently done.
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  This is the final one, and then I've got to take a break.
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  Wind turbine installations greatly interfere with military radar systems.
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  Uh, it makes it difficult to operate aircraft near major uh offshore, even onshore wind turbines.
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  It completely screws up radar systems.
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  The United States and the United Kingdom militaries have worked to ban turbines near their bases.
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  That's talking about onshore and offshore and offshore.
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  Um, my name is Todd Royal.
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  This is geopower energy and real politics, and we are breaking down why wind why the wind energy does not work.
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  We'll be right back.
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  Hello, this is Todd Boyle, and we are back.
• 33:14
  I am the host of Geopower, Energy, Real Politics.
• 33:18
  Today, we're not focusing as much on the geopower and the real politics.
• 33:25
  Politics towards the end of our first um first part of the show.
• 33:30
  What we're really focusing on today, we're going heavy energy today.
• 33:33
  That is my background.
• 33:34
  That is my love.
• 33:35
  Um I started off the show by saying I had done been the lead author of a study of offshore and some onshore wind energy for the Nash National Science Foundation.
• 33:46
  And what I found after I did the study was greatly troubling.
• 33:50
  Did a value chain report where I looked at companies within the value chain, uh, placed them within the wind value chain, and then wrote the report and did a SWOT analysis as well.
• 34:01
  So let's let's keep going here.
• 34:03
  We've talked, we've talked about the minerals it takes.
• 34:06
  The they don't offshoot emissions.
• 34:08
  There's intermittency.
• 34:09
  Well, let's keep let's keep going on.
• 34:12
  Well, wind turbine farms increased emissions based on what it takes to build one.
• 34:18
  Tons of rare earth metals and minerals, still copper concrete into the tens of thousands of pounds.
• 34:24
  I wrote a book called Clean Energy Exploitations.
• 34:27
  Please go buy it.
• 34:28
  We get into this.
• 34:29
  Uh turbines are being built higher and higher, larger and larger.
• 34:34
  Um, and just what it takes to build one.
• 34:37
  Uh, go have a let me just give you a little example here.
• 34:41
  So let's take a typical wind turbine.
• 34:44
  So, what's the carbon footprint?
• 34:45
  We're always heard, oh, the carbon.
• 34:48
  Oh, the CO2.
• 34:50
  Oh my gosh, it's we're all gonna die.
• 34:53
  Okay.
• 34:54
  Let's talk about what it takes to build one.
• 34:57
  California wants 2500 of these off their coast.
• 35:01
  Here's what it takes to build one of these.
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  Remember, what I'm about to describe is a smaller wind turbine than current new builds.
• 35:11
  Carbon footprint of a wind turbine with 45 tons of rebar and 481 meters to the third power of concrete.
• 35:20
  Um, okay, the large carbon footprint.
• 35:23
  Now we're talking about approximately 241.85 tons of CO2.
• 35:28
  Here's the breakdown of the CO2 numbers.
• 35:31
  To create a thousand kilograms of pig iron that you need, you start with 1,800 kilograms of iron ore, 900 kilograms of coking coil, coal.
• 35:42
  Do you hear what I just said?
• 35:43
  Coal.
• 35:44
  900 kilograms of coking coal, 400 kilograms of limestone, the blast furnace.
• 35:53
  And trust me, that is not run by the wind or the sun.
• 35:56
  The blast furnace consumes 4500 kilograms of air.
• 36:02
  The temperature at the core of the blast furnace reaches nearly 1600 degrees Celsius, or about 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit.
• 36:11
  No nuclear power plant can achieve that.
• 36:13
  They can't even come close to give an example.
• 36:16
  Current nuclear reactors get between 280 degrees to 400 degrees Celsius at most.
• 36:22
  You're talking about something that is 300 times hotter.
• 36:27
  And that's coming from fossil fuels.
• 36:31
  The pig iron is then transferred to the basic oxygen furnace to make steel.
• 36:35
  1,350 kilograms of CO2 is emitted per 1,000 kilograms of pig iron produced.
• 36:42
  A further 1,460 kilograms of CO2 is emitted per 1,000 kilograms of steel produced.
• 36:50
  So all up 2,810 kilograms of CO2 is admitted.
• 36:55
  45 tons of rebar steel are required.
• 36:59
  So that equals 126.45 tons of CO2 are emitted.
• 37:07
  To create 1,000 kilograms of Portland cement, calcium carbonate, which is about 60% of it, silicon, which is 20%, aluminum is 10%, irons 10%, and very small amounts of other ingredients to make this turbine.
• 37:22
  Turbine blades are heated in a large kiln to over 1500 degrees Celsius to convert the raw materials into clinker.
• 37:32
  The clinkers then interground with other ingredients to produce the final cement product.
• 37:37
  When cement is mixed with water, sand and gravel form the rock-like mass known as concrete.
• 37:45
  An average of 927 kilograms of CO2 is emitted per 1,000 kilograms of Portland cement.
• 37:52
  On average, concrete has 10% cement, with the balance being gravel at 41%, sand at 25%, water at 18%, and air at 6%.
• 38:02
  One cubic meter of concrete weighs approximately 2400 kilograms, so approximately 240 kilograms of CO2 is emitted for every cubic meter.
• 38:14
  481 meters to the third of concrete are required, so that equals 115.4 tons of CO2 are emitted.
• 38:23
  An industrial wind turbine requires staggering amounts of steel, copper, aluminum, as we've said before, and I'm repeating myself.
• 38:32
  A raft of rare earths, the reproduction of which, as I've just said, requires staggering amounts of energy.
• 38:40
  You're never going to offset this ever.
• 38:43
  Normally, again, all of this has to come from coal, oil, and gas.
• 38:47
  You cannot use nuclear power for this.
• 39:06
  At best.
• 39:16
  So what I just gave you, and these people that are so worried about CO2, whether it's an AOC, a Bernie Sanders, Gavin Newsom, Friends of the Earth, the Sierra Club, the Environmental Defense Fund, the National Refor, the National Resource, uh, National N R D D, Billionaires, like that fool Tom Steyer or control freaks and disgusting individuals who run the Rockefeller Foundation, Tides Foundation, Ford Foundation, Neville Singham Bingham, Michael Bloomberg, who's so concerned about global warming, or the buffoon John Carey.
• 39:58
  I have zero respect for any.
• 40:00
  These people.
• 40:01
  The numbers I just gave you are low.
• 40:05
  Low.
• 40:06
  Again, I'm going to say this again.
• 40:08
  I did not include the emissions and the pollution to mine all of these raw materials, the transportation of all the raw materials, then the transportation of the fabricated materials that have to be fabricated by fossil fuels to the turbine site that has to be put together and uses all sorts of greases, lubricants, and diesel to run it.
• 40:32
  So the emissions calculations above are maybe touching 20% of what you should be calculating.
• 40:41
  Or let's go.
• 40:42
  Let's say 25%.
• 40:43
  I'd say what let's even say 50%.
• 40:47
  So take all the numbers I just gave.
• 40:50
  Concrete, 100 115.4 tons of CO2 admitted.
• 40:55
  Um the rebar and concrete that 481 uh meters to the third.
• 41:05
  Double it.
• 41:06
  Double it.
• 41:07
  And then tell me why you're so concerned about emissions.
• 41:11
  Tell me that you're so concerned about CO2.
• 41:13
  It is a fraud.
• 41:15
  It is a scam.
• 41:16
  And if you believe it, you're either a fool, you're naive, or you're a liar.
• 41:20
  I'd rather you tell me you just don't know.
• 41:23
  But please don't tell me you are quote unquote saving the earth.
• 41:26
  If you want to save the earth, build natural gas-fired plants, and then convert them to nuclear.
• 41:32
  If I had my way, every grid would run on nuclear, natural gas, and coal for manufacturing backed up by dams when possible.
• 41:44
  That's a green grid.
• 41:47
  Let's talk about the turbines themselves.
• 41:50
  Did you know that wind turbines they break often and they travel increased distances?
• 41:55
  Um, you actually, that's why you're starting to see setbacks put in place by various uh counties and municipalities because if that turbine comes off and if it were to break or if it were to hit you, you'd likely die.
• 42:09
  Um, they are extremely dangerous for anyone near when this takes place.
• 42:15
  I would warn anybody, do not ever go to wind turbine sites without somebody there who knows exactly what they're doing, and you have on safety gear, and in particular, a very hard hard hat in steel-towed boots.
• 42:31
  Um, all of this has to be backed up by batteries.
• 42:36
  Well, I'm gonna put a I'm gonna put a source in here.
• 42:40
  Battery energy storage systems, my own studies showed this.
• 42:43
  I can show you others at grid cell are not economically or technologically viable at this time, or any time I would tell you within the next 10 years.
• 42:52
  I'm gonna be really conservative and tell you that maybe at best, they may start to become economically viable.
• 43:01
  2036, 2040.
• 43:04
  I wouldn't count on it because of the density issue, and because lithium is not a very good holder of it, and also to a battery, when it gets hot or gets cold, it begin it it loses the charge at a much higher order of magnitude.
• 43:19
  Um the financial issues, just go look at some of the New York offshore wind projects.
• 43:24
  Uh they were canceled over high interest rates, inflation.
• 43:28
  Even if uh the Trump economy keeps booming, there's massive supply chain constraints.
• 43:34
  Umshore wind will continue to be challenged financially over high interest rates, uh, over inflation of goods, and the supply track, the supply chain constraints have to be overcome.
• 43:49
  So you could really look at uh the Fed chair, Jerome Powell, who typically we think votes Democrats, which means he probably believes in global warming, climate change, wind turbines.
• 44:00
  I'd go, well, then Chairman Powell, you may hate Donald Trump and Republicans and MAGA, but don't you love the environment?
• 44:06
  So if you love the environment, wouldn't you want to bring interest rates down?
• 44:10
  So things like wind turbines could replace um things that emit uh carbon and methane or sulfur oxide or nitrous oxide, like natural gas-fired plants or coal, which goes to show you that Jerome Powell has no interest in lowering interest rates that should be lowered for those very reasons because he hates Donald Trump.
• 44:28
  It's a bunch of political BS.
• 44:31
  He lowered them for Joe Biden, but he won't lower them now.
• 44:34
  I would say, Chairman Powell, uh, do you believe in global warming and climate change?
• 44:39
  And if you do, why do you keep interest rates high?
• 44:42
  Which uh are constraints on companies like BP Equinore um and others to G Verno to make these to make these projects uh viable financially.
• 44:53
  The interest rates are too high.
• 44:55
  See what he says.
• 44:57
  Did you know at least 150 eagles were killed at wind farms in eight U.S.
• 45:02
  states?
• 45:03
  Uh next era energy, subsidiary of ESI energy, was also sentenced to five years probation after being charged with three counts of violating the migratory bird treaty act during a court appearance in Cheyenne, Wyoming.
• 45:17
  Uh the charges arose.
• 45:19
  This happened a couple of years ago from the deaths of nine eagles at three wind farms in Wyoming and New Mexico.
• 45:25
  Wind farm challenges have to overcome the killing of birds.
• 45:30
  Same problem also occurs with solar installations.
• 45:33
  Um you can also look at rising construction and American new build shipping costs related to the Jones Act, make construction costs rise significantly, particularly for offshore wind.
• 45:45
  Um it's why you never want you, you're never gonna see a floating natural gas plant, a floating, maybe you'll see some floating nuclear power plants on barges, some um Asian firms, a couple of northern European firms are looking at that, but then you have to overcome the Jones Act.
• 46:05
  Um, we talked about originally extremely cold conditions, the turbines will not work, they will break, they have expensive repairs that are needed, and turbines also need a certain wind speed to work properly.
• 46:17
  The wind can't be too low, but if the wind is too fast, it breaks the turbine because I've heard people go, My God, just put them where high winds are, put them out in the ocean.
• 46:27
  The winds are so the winds are so high.
• 46:30
  Well, that's a very naive view.
• 46:31
  You don't understand how a turbine works.
• 46:34
  Um turbines typically will have a hard time.
• 46:39
  Uh high winds, 25 miles an hour, 35 miles per hour, certainly any kind of gusts that would come from hurricanes, tornadoes, or high winds that you would see from like Santa Ana winds or the middle part of the United States, kind of the windy plain areas, many of those turbines will break when the wind reaches uh an increased speed.
• 46:58
  Typically, it's about right around 25 miles, 35 miles per hour.
• 47:01
  The wind, the turbine has major issues and has a hard time delivering its electricity to the grid.
• 47:09
  Um, if it was like offshore wind, if it was so inexpensive, why have the rates in Britain gone up?
• 47:17
  Just study Britain as we speak.
• 47:20
  Um most of the time, too, then maintaining even an onshore wind turbine.
• 47:27
  Most manufacturers, project developers, they have experienced much higher than projected maintenance and repairs um by this.
• 47:35
  Uh the larger wind turbines, remember a moment ago I gave you that's a that's a conservative one.
• 47:40
  The larger ones have been plagued with rapid gearboxware, blade failures resulting from the vibration of the rotating components.
• 47:49
  Companies like Orstead, uh G Renova, Siemens Gamesa, Vesta, and Iberlola have all experienced these issues.
• 47:58
  Um of them have.
• 48:00
  Uh, we talked about wind turbines interfere with radar, which causes unnecessary and expensive aircraft reouting, rerouting, uh, and excess fuel consumption.
• 48:11
  So wonder sometimes why is a certain airline route so expensive.
• 48:16
  See if it flies over a wind turbine.
• 48:18
  Ask the military, why do you want them banned your bases?
• 48:22
  I thought they're so wonderful.
• 48:23
  I thought they go against global warming and the Biden administration, the military took a whole of government approach for it.
• 48:30
  They said, Oh, it's gonna solve climate change.
• 48:32
  That's stupidity, a fool like the former General Mark Milley, who was all in on being a Democrat, all in on being a globalist, all in.
• 48:40
  I hate Donald Trump, hate all you MAGA fools.
• 48:43
  Okay, General Millie, you're the chairman of the joint chiefs.
• 48:46
  Do you want these wind turbines uh on your base?
• 48:49
  Do you want them next to your aircraft carriers?
• 48:51
  Did you want them next to where the Navy, the Air Force, the Army is landing um military craft?
• 48:58
  No, because it shows you he's a big fat liar.
• 49:03
  He's a big fat lying democrat.
• 49:05
  He just wants a government contract.
• 49:08
  Oh my god, people like this disgust me.
• 49:11
  The military does not want these by their bases.
• 49:15
  That's all you need to know for what it's doing to their radar.
• 49:19
  Um commercial fishing is having issues.
• 49:23
  Study by the again, the in a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Atmosphere uh administration talked about all of the things that an offshore wind turbine does disturbs fisshering, marine life, these vibrations, takes oxygen out of the water.
• 49:42
  Any offshore wind uh facility in the United States, you're likely gonna have a fishing association saying we do not want this.
• 49:51
  Uh the turbine systems they wear out much faster than promised.
• 49:56
  They're certainly massively uh in harsh.
• 50:00
  Marine environments are on land, uh, they often suffer catastrophic and often fatal fatal mechanical failures.
• 50:07
  That means then I got to remove the turbine, ship it back to the ship it back to the manufacturer or the shore for complete overhaul, causes higher than normal maintenance costs.
• 50:17
  It also is causing insurers to seek ways to limit their exposure by carving out claims based on manufacturers' defects using what's called a serial defect clause.
• 50:30
  So if you wonder why your electricity is more expensive, ask yourself are you getting it from wind?
• 50:36
  Go look at the insurance costs, which typically will be much higher on that based on this reason.
• 50:42
  We talk about intermittency.
• 50:44
  Well, you have drought issues, and they're called wind drought issues.
• 50:47
  There's a term for it in Germany.
• 50:50
  I do not speak German.
• 50:51
  It's like uber flunked.
• 50:54
  The wind won't blow for weeks at a time.
• 50:56
  How do you overcome these?
• 50:58
  Um the findings have been very controversial, but it's the truth.
• 51:04
  Um, U.S.
• 51:06
  wind prices have the power purchasing agreements for them have increased dramatically.
• 51:13
  Um, you see a massive increase between 2020 and 2023, and the same is still true.
• 51:19
  Go look at the PGA, the PJM uh capacity market um auctions, where they're saying not only they have a shortfall of gigawatts, they now have the most expensive power almost in the United States, and they're predicting blackouts in the coming years.
• 51:37
  Let's take um XL Energy has a facility called its Noble Wind Facility, has 134 turbines.
• 51:46
  XL is somebody that has lavished at the taxpayer subsidy gravy train from the government for this crap.
• 51:56
  Um this is some of their they made a disclosure a couple of years ago about this.
• 52:03
  Listen to this disclosure to back up what I just said.
• 52:06
  So they have 134 wind turbines.
• 52:10
  The wind turbines have lasted 12 years.
• 52:14
  Natural gas plan, as we talked about earlier, can last 60 years.
• 52:17
  They'll go, oh, these these things can last 20 to 30 years.
• 52:21
  Theirs lasted 12.
• 52:23
  The cost to decommission each one was over 85,000.
• 52:28
  The cost to refurbish them was over um, oh no, pardon me.
• 52:32
  The cost to decommission them were 80 almost 86 million dollars.
• 52:38
  The cost to refurbish was 204 million dollars.
• 52:42
  So, but if they refurbish them, they get to weep repower them, which means they get to re-qualify for the wind production tax credit, a lucrative federal subsidy that expires after the first 10 years of a project's life.
• 52:56
  So data, you can go back to this from the U.S.
• 52:58
  Department of Energy shows that the wind facilities repowered in 2021, ranged in age from nine to 16 years, with the median age being 10 years.
• 53:08
  That happens all over America.
• 53:11
  You want to know why the Trump administration got rid of the Orwellian named inflation reduction act, and you want to know why they fought Congress and Democrats and a lot of Republicans so hard on this nonsense because the U.S.
• 53:25
  taxpayers have paid hundreds of billions of dollars for decades now to refurbish an installation that's not even running half as long as it said it would run.
• 53:37
  And nowhere is it mandatory in these repowerings or decommissionings that these turbines are recycled and reused.
• 53:45
  It's hard for me to understand how this is considered sustainable or green.
• 53:51
  It's not saying the last year or so, what if three of the biggest wind power groups?
• 54:00
  What have they said?
• 54:02
  Siemens Energy, Orstead, Vespa.
• 54:06
  They said that all of their projects have been beset with delays, equipment problems, and again inflation.
• 54:13
  Supposedly, even they gave this disclosure under the very green Biden administration who went all of government approach, climate change, global warming, or the new mayor of New York, who wouldn't know is left from his right hand, or the congressman nearby, momdami and AOC.
• 54:33
  Oh, we've got to have these.
• 54:35
  Oh, we've got to have all of this.
• 54:38
  The three companies are saying, um, we have project delays, we have equipment problems, we had a inflation.
• 54:44
  I give this to you because this was all before the Trump administration.
• 54:50
  Did you know the UK wind industry?
• 54:53
  They do something called constraint payments, and promise you this will come to the United States.
• 54:59
  The UK, the United Kingdom government pays the wind industry upwards of three billion dollars the last 10 years in subsidies for producing nothing at all.
• 55:11
  Okay, what if you say, well, Todd, these creates so many jobs and you just don't understand this.
• 55:17
  Okay, I appreciate that.
• 55:19
  Uh, University of Massachusetts study from a few years ago estimated the average salaries in Venice within the renewable sector, the wind wind industry, is 36% lower than the fossil fuel industry.
• 55:34
  Green jobs, green jobs, Todd, green jobs.
• 55:37
  We're transferring to green jobs.
• 55:39
  Uh, the Democratic Party to a person will tell you, oh, we can get green jobs.
• 55:44
  Get rid of the coal plant, give them a wind turbine or a solar farm.
• 55:48
  It's a green job.
• 55:50
  Well, it's not green, as I've told you.
• 55:52
  Then your salary and benefits are typically um 30 36% lower.
• 55:58
  So it's just there's a stunning thing to me about all of this.
• 56:06
  So I yeah.
• 56:09
  Um British petroleum, as I told you in January of 24, lost over a billion dollars, left the U.S.
• 56:16
  offshore wind business.
• 56:18
  Um BP even had a stake in two projects, projects called Empire One and Two.
• 56:23
  Just so you know, British petroleum, there are talks that the one of the premier uh companies of the last hundred years is likely about to either be sold off or possibly bankrupt.
• 56:36
  And uh maybe Shell will buy them, maybe Royal Dutch Shell will, or more than likely because BP decided they wanted to believe in global warming and no longer wanted to be the P of BP anymore because they wanted to win favor with fools like Rachel Maddow and CNN, uh, and they wanted to the World Economic Forum to think they were great little globalists.
• 57:00
  They bankrupt their country and their company.
• 57:04
  And their former CEO is the laughing stock of the business world.
• 57:09
  Okay, I've probably run a little long here.
• 57:11
  We've had a lot.
• 57:12
  I honestly covered not about 40% of the challenges that wind energy has.
• 57:19
  My name is Todd Royal.
• 57:20
  Thank you for listening to Geopower Energy and Real Politics and just remember wind energy does not work, and God bless the