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D3 Coach Q&A - Michael Rose (Regent T&F/XC) · The Student Athlete Sessions

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SPEAKER_02: And then I'm going to send out a link.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, welcome back to our fourth live Q&A.
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SPEAKER_00: We've survived some technical difficulties and we're here.
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We're joined by the head coach of track and field and cross
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country at Regent University.
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SPEAKER_00: That is Mr. Michael Rose.
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SPEAKER_00: Coach Rose, thanks for joining the program.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you for inviting me.
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I appreciate the invite,
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and hopefully I can do your program a good justice.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm sure you will.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: You're joining.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a fun format.
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SPEAKER_00: It's live,
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so people will be coming in to the chat and having the chance
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to ask you questions
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SPEAKER_00: directly.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll be talking some as well.
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SPEAKER_00: trying to just get a sense of where you're at with your program,
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SPEAKER_00: recruiting class and everything.
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SPEAKER_00: And then also want to dive into your career as an athlete as well,
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because I think there are always lessons for future college
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athletes in the steps
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SPEAKER_00: that people have taken ahead of them.
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SPEAKER_00: So we'll give people a couple minutes here to get in,
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SPEAKER_00: and then I'm going to share a link so that everyone can join.
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But maybe,
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Coach Rose,
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just get us started with your three years into coaching at
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Regent.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like you said, I'm starting my third year here at Regent.
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I was hired in May of 2023 and just got the opportunity to
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become a college coach.
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SPEAKER_01: It wasn't something I was directly looking for.
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God put this opportunity in my space and I guess I'm just going
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to walk into it and
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keep doing the things I've been doing as a youth coach and a
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high school coach and
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SPEAKER_01: bringing that atmosphere,
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SPEAKER_01: that attitude to Regent University.
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SPEAKER_01: And hopefully we can develop this program into a well-rounded program.
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SPEAKER_01: And when I say well-rounded,
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not only thinking to the division that I'm in,
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SPEAKER_01: but just in general,
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SPEAKER_01: in reference to track and field and cross country.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: you've been coaching,
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SPEAKER_00: maybe this is your first college opportunity,
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SPEAKER_00: but you've been coaching for 25 years.
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SPEAKER_00: So tons of experience and, you know, you bring a perspective of,
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SPEAKER_00: an individual perspective that's very accomplished.
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And then I think,
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uh,
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your coaching style has,
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has already yielded some great results.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh,
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SPEAKER_00: maybe just talk about,
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SPEAKER_00: I know I saw a national finalist or a national qualifier cross country.
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You had all Americans,
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um,
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maybe for,
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uh,
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outdoor and indoor in respective consecutive years.
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SPEAKER_00: So what is, what is the first, I guess, two years been like?
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SPEAKER_01: The first two years has been very,
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the beginning was very for the athletes and myself getting to
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know each other,
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SPEAKER_01: getting to know what I'm bringing to the table because it seems as if the
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SPEAKER_01: atmosphere here was more of a relax and,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: anything goes.
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SPEAKER_01: But I usually bring in structure and order to anything that I'm doing.
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And that usually gives a lot of pushback from athletes and
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possible parents and
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: saying I'm being too hard,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: but I'm not,
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SPEAKER_01: I don't think see myself as a hard or difficult coach.
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SPEAKER_01: I see myself as a coach that has standards.
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SPEAKER_01: And if we stay within those standards,
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SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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SPEAKER_01: we will succeed for one and we will have order for two.
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SPEAKER_01: So if you have order,
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SPEAKER_01: you will definitely have a lot of success.
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SPEAKER_01: You know,
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SPEAKER_01: you might not have success every year,
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but you should have some positive growth every year based off
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the order that you
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SPEAKER_01: have established.
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So when you have new athletes come in and the order has been
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set and the standard
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SPEAKER_01: has been set,
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the older athletes would pretty much teach the new athletes the
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way of how we do
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SPEAKER_01: things.
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SPEAKER_01: And by doing that, we should have good success
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yeah and team team building and culture building like that is
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never immediate so
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how do you how do you you know convince those older students or
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older um athletes
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to kind of adopt that system and that structure that you that
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you want to apply
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like how do you how do you convince them um when i first came
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in and a lot of the
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athletes i kind of kind of sit back and see what they were
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doing and see how they
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SPEAKER_01: did things and how they run things and um
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SPEAKER_01: I kind of start implementing certain things based off what I see,
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SPEAKER_01: what they were doing when I first came in.
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SPEAKER_01: So I didn't come in and drastically, I mean, switch up everything.
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SPEAKER_01: But one thing I've made clear was like practice was mandatory,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: and the meet would have been optional.
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SPEAKER_01: And to most folks, they're good to go to a meet.
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SPEAKER_01: They'd be like, okay, I'm good.
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SPEAKER_01: I can run out of the meet.
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SPEAKER_01: But to me, if you don't practice, you're not good to go to the meet.
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So if you're going to miss anything,
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you're going to miss the meet,
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but don't miss practice.
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And that I got a lot of pushback on with the student athletes
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because we started
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SPEAKER_01: our practicing for the indoor season in September.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'll share with them the first time I met with them and said,
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SPEAKER_01: look,
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SPEAKER_01: if you don't come to practice,
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SPEAKER_01: you won't go to the meet.
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SPEAKER_01: My first year at the first meet that we have for indoor,
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SPEAKER_01: pretty much I want to say about 30% of the athletes made it to the meet.
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SPEAKER_01: And they thought I was joking, you know, and
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SPEAKER_01: when they realize that, oh, you were serious about that?
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: So after that,
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SPEAKER_01: everyone was starting to show up to practice or let me know,
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SPEAKER_01: hey,
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SPEAKER_01: coach,
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to be at practice.
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SPEAKER_01: And I said, well, there's 24 hours in a day.
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SPEAKER_01: I know practice is scheduled from, say, 6 to 8 or from 5 to 8.
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SPEAKER_01: But if you have something that is important during that time,
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give me another time throughout the day and I'll meet you and
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get your practice in.
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SPEAKER_01: See, one of the fun things about cross-country and track and field
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SPEAKER_01: It's not a team sport in the sense that we need everyone to run a play in
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SPEAKER_01: basketball or soccer or football.
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Someone can go out and do their own run on their own and do
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their own practice on their own.
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So I can get away with an athlete practicing earlier and still
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get the work in.
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It's just that it's going to be a little bit difficult to run
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by yourself most of the time.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't have the team environment around you.
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SPEAKER_00: But I think the message of how do you
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foster that individual accountability to say,
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still show up,
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I'll be there with you.
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I think that's a big step from a coach to take your time out of
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your day to be
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SPEAKER_00: flexible,
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SPEAKER_00: make sure that you're encouraging the meeting of these standards when,
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SPEAKER_00: like you said,
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SPEAKER_00: maybe it was not the norm before you got there.
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SPEAKER_00: It wasn't.
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SPEAKER_01: It wasn't.
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SPEAKER_01: I just didn't want to make it seem as if anything goes.
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe that coach had his style before I came in.
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SPEAKER_01: But I just know that if you don't practice,
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SPEAKER_01: you won't have the great success that you want to get.
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_00: And in the recruiting process,
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SPEAKER_00: I'm sure you can go out and what are you looking for now in recruits for,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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maybe how do you identify that people are going to be able to
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fit into that system?
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SPEAKER_00: What kind of questions are you asking?
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What do you want to hear from recruits back to know that
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they're going to have the discipline?
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SPEAKER_01: The question I usually ask is right now, I would say,
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SPEAKER_01: I'm at the bottom of the barrel.
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If you get my drift in reference to the athletes that wants to
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come to Regent
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SPEAKER_01: because Regent is a fairly new,
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SPEAKER_01: um,
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SPEAKER_01: university with athletics in terms of athletics.
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SPEAKER_01: And,
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SPEAKER_01: um,
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SPEAKER_01: one of the,
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SPEAKER_01: the reason why,
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SPEAKER_01: um,
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SPEAKER_01: I was brought in was Regent started,
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SPEAKER_01: I think,
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SPEAKER_01: track and field sports in,
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SPEAKER_01: in 2017,
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SPEAKER_01: I believe 2017,
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SPEAKER_01: 2018.
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SPEAKER_01: And,
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people that live right across the street from region did not
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know where athletics,
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SPEAKER_01: did not know where sports.
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SPEAKER_01: So one of my goals was to bring notoriety in the Hampton Roads area,
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SPEAKER_01: in the Virginia Beach area,
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SPEAKER_01: that yes,
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SPEAKER_01: we do have sport.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay,
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SPEAKER_01: so once I came in and I start establishing,
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I start going out to the high schools because I was already in
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the high school
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SPEAKER_01: realm as a coach in the high school system.
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SPEAKER_01: And they knew about my track record in the high school.
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SPEAKER_01: So where the athletes will be like,
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SPEAKER_01: oh,
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SPEAKER_01: Coach Rose is talking to me,
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SPEAKER_01: thinking I'm trying to get them to my high school.
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SPEAKER_01: And when I let them know, oh, I'm no longer at the high school no more.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to get you to come to college.
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And I did not go after the high profile athletes or the
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athletes that think they
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SPEAKER_01: were good,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: because most of those athletes,
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SPEAKER_01: they have one track mind in terms of,
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SPEAKER_01: oh,
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SPEAKER_01: if it's not a big school,
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to go there.
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And I go to the bottom of the barrel,
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basically,
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or the mid to the bottom of the barrel.
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SPEAKER_01: and start talking to the athletes.
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SPEAKER_01: And then when the middle or top of the barrel see me talking to them,
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SPEAKER_01: say,
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SPEAKER_01: hold on,
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SPEAKER_01: why are you talking to them?
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm better.
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SPEAKER_01: So they'll try and chime in and try to hear what I'm saying.
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SPEAKER_01: And they know who I am and my track record in the area.
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SPEAKER_01: So they'll be like, okay, I can consider coming to Region 2.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's how I start attracting more of the middle of the barrel.
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SPEAKER_01: But the top, top of the barrel, still looking for
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SPEAKER_01: hey, I want to go to a D1 school or a D2 school.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to get money.
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SPEAKER_01: And first thing I told them when I recruited them,
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SPEAKER_01: I said,
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SPEAKER_01: hey,
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SPEAKER_01: we don't give athletic scholarship,
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SPEAKER_01: but we have other ways of giving you scholarship,
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but it's not athletics in terms of academics and all these
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different things.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, merit aid, grants.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, grants.
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SPEAKER_01: And I tell them, hey, it's Regent.
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We have a lot of stuff out there that you can get where you
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might have to pay
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SPEAKER_01: minimal to come here.
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yeah yeah and that is i mean that's important work and it's
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it's funny you said you
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know people live across the street and they didn't know we had
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athletics like i
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think that's something we've encountered at a couple d3 schools
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it's a certain ones
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you get you get a fan base that's pretty local and dedicated
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but i know there's
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SPEAKER_00: sometimes people just don't know that uh you know it's happening and
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um but it can be high level athletics and as as we already have
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addressed you had
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all americans you had a national qualifier so like you're
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turning the page very
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quickly at region and hopefully people in the virginia beach
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and hampton woods area
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start start becoming aware and um clued in both recruits and
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the fans so we get
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SPEAKER_01: more people let's keep both fingers crossed yeah
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SPEAKER_00: We will.
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SPEAKER_00: We will.
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SPEAKER_00: I just paused for a second.
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Everyone who's in the chat,
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it's a small group now because we had to reboot,
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but
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Just reminder,
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you can ask your questions live and Coach Rose and I will take
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those on.
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SPEAKER_00: So feel free to drop a question if you have it.
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SPEAKER_00: And just we'll keep reminding everyone of that.
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SPEAKER_00: But Coach Rose,
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SPEAKER_00: I want to while we wait for questions,
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I want to shift gears a little to your personal track
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experience and your career.
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SPEAKER_00: You grew up in Jamaica.
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SPEAKER_00: You go on to become a Division I runner.
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And if we can trust the internet here,
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you were a bronze medalist at the under-20 championships.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's see the date here.
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SPEAKER_00: 1994?
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SPEAKER_00: 1988?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: 1988, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Gotcha.
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SPEAKER_00: July 1988.
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SPEAKER_00: There it is.
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SPEAKER_00: In Southbury, Canada.
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SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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SPEAKER_00: So...
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let's talk to your career like when did you know you wanted to
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try to run in
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college and what did that process look like for you when did I
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know I wanted to run
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in college oh boy I would say in 1986 that was the year I
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really took to track and
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field and my high school coach I mean actually pulled me aside
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you know because my
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SPEAKER_01: first sport is soccer I really love soccer
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SPEAKER_01: And I was on the... Hold a second.
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SPEAKER_01: Hold a second.
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SPEAKER_00: This is the life of a D3 coach.
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SPEAKER_00: Always on call here.
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SPEAKER_02: Hey, I'm on the call right now.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: You want to log on?
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SPEAKER_01: Hey, that was the wife.
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SPEAKER_01: And she didn't realize I was on the call.
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SPEAKER_01: So I had to take that call because I do not want to.
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SPEAKER_01: Biggest fan.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my first sport was soccer.
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SPEAKER_01: And how I got involved in track and field was my high school coach,
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SPEAKER_01: pulled me aside, and he laid out a clear plan that makes sense to me.
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At first,
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I didn't want to buy into it because,
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like I said,
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I love soccer.
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And he showed me some great soccer players that was from a high
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school that I
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SPEAKER_01: wasn't even close to.
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SPEAKER_01: And he was like, hey, none of these guys got scholarships.
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SPEAKER_01: And he said to me,
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SPEAKER_01: he knows my family background in reference to my parents,
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SPEAKER_01: what they can afford.
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SPEAKER_01: He was like,
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SPEAKER_01: your parents cannot afford to send you to college.
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SPEAKER_01: I didn't even know nothing about college until you said that.
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SPEAKER_01: I was like, why are you talking about college?
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SPEAKER_01: Because in Jamaica,
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the atmosphere for most low-income family was you finish high
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school and you go in
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SPEAKER_01: the workforce.
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SPEAKER_01: You might take some courses to improve yourself, your educational level.
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SPEAKER_01: So college was the furthest thing from my mind.
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SPEAKER_01: But when my coach shared that information with me and said,
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SPEAKER_01: well,
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then he showed me some mediocre track athletes that was from my
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high school.
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that got scholarships that I was way better than,
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had more potential than what they had.
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SPEAKER_01: And he was like, and they got scholarships.
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SPEAKER_01: So he was like,
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SPEAKER_01: get your grades together because I wasn't a dumb kid,
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SPEAKER_01: but I was a lazy kid that didn't do no homework,
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SPEAKER_01: didn't do no schoolwork.
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SPEAKER_01: So he was like, get the grades together.
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So what happened,
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my senior year in high school,
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didn't get all the subjects I needed to get.
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SPEAKER_01: So only was be able to awarded a junior college scholarship.
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SPEAKER_01: And I went to a junior college in Texas called Southwest Christian.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, did my time there.
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SPEAKER_01: I graduated from there.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, then transferred to Auburn University.
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So my coach in high school was the one that planted the seed in
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my mind about going to college.
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SPEAKER_01: And then I always thought,
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SPEAKER_01: okay,
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SPEAKER_01: if you're good,
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SPEAKER_01: back in the days,
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SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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SPEAKER_01: I don't think the stress was on much as grades right now,
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SPEAKER_01: as it is right now.
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SPEAKER_01: So I didn't do no schoolwork.
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but I end up still getting a scholarship because a lot of
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schools did reach out to
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SPEAKER_01: me,
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SPEAKER_01: universities did reach out to me,
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SPEAKER_01: but because I didn't have the grades,
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SPEAKER_01: it was my option was junior college,
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SPEAKER_01: which in today's world,
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it seems to be much better now because you can go for two years
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in junior college
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SPEAKER_01: and still get four years in D1 and D2.
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SPEAKER_01: True, from an eligibility standpoint, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, from an eligibility standpoint.
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SPEAKER_01: So I came, I went to Southwest Christian in 1989,
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So after I graduated in 88,
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because in Jamaica,
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you graduate from the 11th grade.
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SPEAKER_01: In the 11th grade, you graduate, get your subject.
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SPEAKER_01: And then in 89, I got my scholarship.
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SPEAKER_01: I came up when I was 19 and then went from there and just,
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SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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didn't have a problem with no grades no more because they
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totally have to have
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SPEAKER_01: certain grades to compete.
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SPEAKER_01: So I make sure I had the grades.
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SPEAKER_01: And matter of fact, my first year, I was on the dean's list.
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SPEAKER_01: My parents were like, huh?
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SPEAKER_01: What's happening?
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SPEAKER_01: That's not our son.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what they pretty much basically said.
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SPEAKER_01: That's not our son.
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SPEAKER_01: I basically tell them, I'm here.
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SPEAKER_01: Didn't have nothing to do other than to practice and go to school.
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Didn't have no friends where I go and hang out and stay out
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late and do all this stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: It was a different atmosphere.
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SPEAKER_01: So because I didn't know anyone, didn't know where to go.
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SPEAKER_01: Only place I know was the library and my dorm.
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SPEAKER_01: So that took care of that.
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SPEAKER_01: So the grades went up and the running went well.
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SPEAKER_01: And then after my second year, my sophomore year, Auburn came calling.
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SPEAKER_01: Auburn University came calling.
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Among other schools came calling because my freshman year,
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I was All-American indoor in the 400.
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And then my sophomore year,
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I got third in the 400-meter indoors behind...
17:06
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you know these guys,
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SPEAKER_01: Darnell Hughes and Darnell Hall that ran for USA and Antonio Pettigrew.
17:15
SPEAKER_01: Big names.
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Yeah,
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Darnell Hall went to Blinn and Antonio Pettigrew went to
17:23
Miami-Dade Junior College.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I got third behind them my junior year, my sophomore year.
17:31
SPEAKER_01: So when Auburn saw that,
17:34
SPEAKER_01: They were like, okay, let's see what this kid got.
17:36
SPEAKER_01: Plus, I was a bronze medalist from the World Juniors in 88.
17:39
SPEAKER_01: So it's not that I didn't have potential.
17:43
SPEAKER_01: And I did got my bronze medal in the 4x4 for Jamaica.
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SPEAKER_01: I did run the open 400-meter hurdles.
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But after 88,
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that was the only year I ran the 400-meter hurdles to make the
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national team.
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SPEAKER_01: That was the only year.
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So when I went my first two years in junior college,
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I did not run the 400-meter hurdles.
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SPEAKER_01: I just run the open four.
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And then Auburn was interested in me running the 400-meter
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hurdles plus the 400.
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SPEAKER_01: And then that's how they got wind off me.
18:14
SPEAKER_01: And that was history.
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SPEAKER_01: Went to Auburn, did my thing.
18:19
SPEAKER_01: And it wasn't a great, great year at Auburn in terms of my performance.
18:24
SPEAKER_01: It was my third year at Auburn.
18:27
SPEAKER_01: After I finished my eligibility,
18:30
then I started running well unattached because I was training
18:33
still in Auburn.
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SPEAKER_01: And my teammates were like, what happened?
18:36
SPEAKER_01: I said,
18:36
I guess it took me two years to learn the system at Auburn in
18:39
reference to the
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SPEAKER_01: coaching style.
18:42
SPEAKER_01: But everything just went uphill after that.
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Then I met my wife there and we've been married just since this
18:51
past August for 30 years.
18:52
SPEAKER_01: Wow, congrats.
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God has been good to us,
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my wife and I.
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Plus then we end up having four kids.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think that's history.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, I have a lot of questions.
19:07
SPEAKER_00: One,
19:07
I think there are some lessons in there for kids who might hear
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this and want to
19:16
SPEAKER_00: play college for it.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: One, grades take you a long way.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: Grades help unlock the opportunity and also the money side of it.
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SPEAKER_00: The financial aid,
19:28
SPEAKER_00: the Division I level,
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SPEAKER_00: you have to have a certain level of GPA just to compete.
19:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: So whether you're in ninth grade or you're a senior, it doesn't matter.
19:42
The grades can always be something you're using to your
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advantage in that process.
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SPEAKER_01: Most definitely, yes.
19:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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And then I would say,
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I'm curious about what you picked up from the coaches.
19:57
SPEAKER_00: Because obviously, like you said, there was an adjustment.
20:00
SPEAKER_00: But at Auburn,
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were there any things that you kind of learned in those two
20:03
years that you still
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feel like you're applying now or that changed your perspective
20:07
on running?
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SPEAKER_00: Because obviously, it made you a better runner after you finished.
20:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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What I've learned,
20:16
because the system that I was in when I was in high school,
20:20
SPEAKER_01: I've never trained that hard ever since high school.
20:24
SPEAKER_01: Just to be frank, that's how we were in high school.
20:27
SPEAKER_01: It was, I mean, hard grind day in, day out.
20:31
SPEAKER_01: I mean,
20:32
SPEAKER_01: in high school in Jamaica,
20:35
SPEAKER_01: if you notice in the Jamaican high school system,
20:38
SPEAKER_01: they seem to be pushing out athletes year in,
20:41
SPEAKER_01: year out.
20:42
SPEAKER_01: And that's not by any accident because it's more of how the culture is.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: You know, I'll be practicing from the season ends in May.
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And if you make a youth team to go June,
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July,
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you know,
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you'll be practicing.
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SPEAKER_01: If you don't make a youth team,
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SPEAKER_01: soon as school is out,
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SPEAKER_01: our exams are ending,
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SPEAKER_01: exam end in June,
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SPEAKER_01: July,
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SPEAKER_01: August,
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SPEAKER_01: September,
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SPEAKER_01: October,
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SPEAKER_01: November,
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SPEAKER_01: December,
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SPEAKER_01: you start back for the next year.
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SPEAKER_01: And when I say start back, I'm talking five days a week, you go in.
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SPEAKER_01: doing weightlifting, you're doing heel runs, you're doing beach runs.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean,
21:21
SPEAKER_01: whether you're a sprinter,
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SPEAKER_01: jumper,
21:23
SPEAKER_01: whatever the case may be,
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SPEAKER_01: you're doing those foundational background work.
21:28
SPEAKER_01: So when you get to the track time,
21:30
SPEAKER_01: everything seems easy because you do such a deep background work.
21:37
SPEAKER_01: I took that,
21:38
SPEAKER_01: my first two years in junior college,
21:40
SPEAKER_01: the coach that was at the junior college really wasn't,
21:43
SPEAKER_01: he was just more of a manager.
21:45
SPEAKER_01: He recruited, I think it was nine Jamaicans that came up.
21:49
SPEAKER_01: And he recruited all good athletes, but we didn't have the grades.
21:54
SPEAKER_01: And he didn't coach us.
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SPEAKER_01: We just did what we did in high school.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's what sustained him.
22:02
SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, people always say, but he had to do something.
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SPEAKER_01: I said, yes, he did.
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SPEAKER_01: He allowed us to do what we are used to doing to be successful.
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And that's how I started learning how to coach myself and coach
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some of the other
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SPEAKER_01: athletes that was there.
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You know,
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I used to ask them,
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because we did not all go to the same high school.
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SPEAKER_01: So I usually ask them, what are you used to do in the fall?
22:24
SPEAKER_01: And they were saying some of the same things that I used to do.
22:26
SPEAKER_01: So I said to the coach, hey, we need to find a hill somewhere.
22:29
SPEAKER_01: And he took us to the hill.
22:31
SPEAKER_01: And we did our stuff.
22:33
SPEAKER_01: Then I told him, we need to find a weight room.
22:35
SPEAKER_01: Because the junior college I went to, we did not have our own track.
22:39
SPEAKER_01: And at
22:41
SPEAKER_01: I told him, hey, we need to do some long-distance racing in the fall.
22:45
SPEAKER_01: And when I came here, I never heard of a 5,000 meter for cross-country.
22:49
SPEAKER_01: In Jamaica in the fall, we did 10Ks.
22:54
SPEAKER_01: I did 10Ks.
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SPEAKER_01: When I heard 5K, I was like, what's that?
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SPEAKER_01: You're like, that's a Sprint.
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SPEAKER_01: Not that it was a Sprint, but it was like, I'm used to a 10K.
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SPEAKER_01: So when he told us, oh, it's a 5K or 8K, I was like, oh, I can do that.
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SPEAKER_01: So it wasn't a problem for me,
23:10
SPEAKER_01: but for most of the sprinters,
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SPEAKER_01: all they did was just jog it and just to keep the fitness.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's one of the things I learned from junior college was how to be
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SPEAKER_01: coachable and help others to succeed even in the events that I don't do.
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As there was a kid that was from the Bahamas,
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he was a shot put and the disc was throw.
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I don't have a clue about that,
23:33
but I asked him and that's what I learned.
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And same thing with some of the other guys from the high
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schools in Jamaica,
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they were sprinters and I asked them and that's how I learned
23:43
to become a sprint
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SPEAKER_01: coach.
23:45
SPEAKER_01: And when I went to Auburn was a total different transition.
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The system that Coach Rosen had at the time,
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he was the coach that recruited me to go there.
23:58
The system that he had was more of a laid-back system where you
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did run in in the
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SPEAKER_01: fall,
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SPEAKER_01: but it wasn't as much.
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SPEAKER_01: And my first year when I went to Auburn,
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SPEAKER_01: Coach Shavers,
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SPEAKER_01: that is now at LSU,
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that was his first year because he had just got the assistant
24:15
job at Auburn.
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And he was the one that was doing the background work and stuff
24:20
like that with us.
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SPEAKER_01: And his workout style was similar to what I was doing in Jamaica.
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But in the spring,
24:26
in the winter and spring semester,
24:28
when the track season starts,
24:30
we went to more of a Coach Rosen style of workout where we were
24:34
working out in
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SPEAKER_01: spikes,
24:35
SPEAKER_01: we were working out in flats.
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And I couldn't grasp that concept because I'm used to going
24:40
hard in practice.
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SPEAKER_01: And he was like, no, we don't go hard like that in practice.
24:45
SPEAKER_01: And it was like, it wasn't compute computing.
24:48
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, okay, what do I need to do so I can go faster?
24:52
SPEAKER_01: You know, he was like, just trust the process.
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And that's one of the first time I heard about that phrase,
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trust the system,
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trust the process.
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SPEAKER_01: You know,
25:00
SPEAKER_01: because he had to be a good coach because year in,
25:03
SPEAKER_01: year out,
25:04
SPEAKER_01: Auburn was,
25:05
SPEAKER_01: back in the day,
25:05
SPEAKER_01: was shelling out a lot of good quarter miles.
25:07
SPEAKER_01: because they had a devastating 4x4 team back in the days.
25:11
SPEAKER_01: And they used to have,
25:13
SPEAKER_01: they had the world champion in 1991,
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SPEAKER_01: went to Auburn,
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SPEAKER_01: Sam Matete,
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SPEAKER_01: who was from Zambia.
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SPEAKER_01: They had,
25:19
SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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SPEAKER_01: a lot of,
25:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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SPEAKER_01: they had Harvey Glantz from in the 70s,
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SPEAKER_01: Olympic 100-meter,
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SPEAKER_01: 200-meter champion.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: They had a lot of good track athletes that came out of Auburn.
25:28
SPEAKER_01: So his system worked, but I did not understand it.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what was going through your head when you heard?
25:34
SPEAKER_01: I learned from his style.
25:36
I learned from his style and I learned from my high school
25:39
coach style and I kind
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SPEAKER_01: of merged them together.
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And then I learned the psychology,
25:45
the psychological aspect part of coaching.
25:49
You know,
25:49
you got to meet the athletes where they are in their mind and
25:54
in their development.
25:56
SPEAKER_01: It's not a one size fits all.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: You just got to meet them where they are.
25:59
And once you meet them where they are and you get them to
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understand what you're trying to do,
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SPEAKER_01: that's when it becomes much easier now for them to start,
26:07
SPEAKER_01: okay,
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SPEAKER_01: this coach know what he's doing.
26:12
SPEAKER_01: So that's how I got most of my success in the high school system here.
26:16
And then now I'm translating that into the college realm in my
26:21
third year here at Regents.
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And hopefully I'll see more fruit from the hard work that the
26:28
athletes are doing
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SPEAKER_01: and the trust in the process that I have knowing that
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trusting that I'm going to help them get to their destination
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of what they want.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: And,
26:40
SPEAKER_00: and it seems like,
26:41
SPEAKER_00: yeah,
26:41
SPEAKER_00: again,
26:41
SPEAKER_00: you,
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SPEAKER_00: you have the,
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SPEAKER_00: the background,
26:44
SPEAKER_00: like with that coach at Auburn,
26:45
SPEAKER_00: they had the,
26:46
SPEAKER_00: they had the,
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SPEAKER_00: the product of their previous labor,
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SPEAKER_00: like the,
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SPEAKER_00: the awards,
26:52
SPEAKER_00: the individual awards,
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SPEAKER_00: the,
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SPEAKER_00: the trophies to,
26:54
SPEAKER_00: to show that the process works.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: So when he says, trust the process, it's not just an empty phrase.
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SPEAKER_00: And it seems like you're getting there at Regent.
27:03
SPEAKER_00: Um,
27:04
I guess you just finished up your,
27:06
would this be your second recruiting class?
27:08
SPEAKER_00: Is that right?
27:09
SPEAKER_01: This, hold on.
27:12
SPEAKER_01: My second, my first recruiting class was last year's class.
27:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:17
SPEAKER_01: Because when I came in, I didn't get a chance to recruit anyone.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:21
SPEAKER_00: That's usually how it works.
27:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
27:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I got people that came in, but it wasn't my work doing that.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:29
So what were you,
27:30
in your second go-round on recruiting,
27:32
what were you looking for?
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SPEAKER_00: And was there some element of having to say,
27:36
SPEAKER_00: trust the process with a new school to a new crop of recruits?
27:44
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, you're breaking up.
27:45
SPEAKER_01: You're breaking up.
27:45
SPEAKER_01: I did not hear that part.
27:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
27:47
I was just saying with your second go at a recruiting class,
27:54
what did that look like?
27:55
SPEAKER_00: What were you going for?
27:57
SPEAKER_00: What did recruits do well that maybe impressed you?
28:04
SPEAKER_00: Was there any kind of saying,
28:05
SPEAKER_00: trust the process,
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SPEAKER_00: this is the vision of what we're trying to build at Regent?
28:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:10
SPEAKER_01: To be honest with you, it was slim pickings.
28:14
SPEAKER_01: Literally slim pickings.
28:16
Because for one,
28:16
there's a lot of things that regents do not have right now.
28:20
SPEAKER_01: And I try to let them know that.
28:23
SPEAKER_01: We don't need to stress that because in high school days,
28:27
SPEAKER_01: we did not have a rubber track in Jamaica.
28:29
SPEAKER_01: We had a grass field.
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SPEAKER_01: And I told them,
28:32
SPEAKER_01: hey,
28:33
SPEAKER_01: if I could run fast in a grass field to get a D1 scholarship,
28:38
SPEAKER_01: it's not about what you got.
28:39
is what you use,
28:42
what you have,
28:42
you use what you get to get what you want.
28:45
And I share that with the athletes and also I've had access to
28:50
the local high
28:51
school that was close by the one that I was coaching at before
28:53
I came here.
28:54
SPEAKER_01: I was still in good relation with the school.
28:58
SPEAKER_01: So I was able to use their track every now and then.
29:00
SPEAKER_01: And that's where we were practicing.
29:02
SPEAKER_01: And we start using their weight room.
29:05
When they were out of the weight room,
29:07
we were able to use their facilities.
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SPEAKER_01: So I let them know that, hey, if your concern is a track, we have that.
29:14
SPEAKER_01: We have access to a track where we can use,
29:16
SPEAKER_01: which was just about a mile and a half away from Regent.
29:19
SPEAKER_01: So it's not a long haul to go to practice.
29:22
And then most of the kids,
29:24
they will start understanding the concept and start buying in.
29:28
When I start showing them,
29:30
hey,
29:31
this is what I did in my high school days.
29:33
SPEAKER_01: And this is what I've done with little talent that I had here at Regent.
29:38
So imagine if you come with some talent and just come into the
29:43
system that I'm
29:44
SPEAKER_01: trying to build here,
29:45
SPEAKER_01: you will succeed.
29:47
SPEAKER_01: And I've been getting some good, the bottom feeder is interesting now.
29:53
SPEAKER_01: I'm starting getting more of the middle.
29:55
SPEAKER_01: And hopefully what I've tried to do is use the athlete that I have,
29:59
SPEAKER_01: I hate to use this phrase,
30:00
SPEAKER_01: as guinea pigs,
30:03
SPEAKER_01: meaning,
30:04
SPEAKER_01: hey,
30:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to use you to get better than someone that was better than you.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: That's just team building, though.
30:11
SPEAKER_00: That's just program building.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, but I'm talking it for outsiders not looking in.
30:18
SPEAKER_01: Because team building,
30:19
SPEAKER_01: because the athletes that are here,
30:21
they know that they're getting better because they're doing
30:23
something that they've
30:24
SPEAKER_01: never done before,
30:25
SPEAKER_01: or the organization,
30:27
SPEAKER_01: the discipline about practice.
30:30
SPEAKER_01: I got some kids who were like, I want to run fast.
30:32
SPEAKER_01: I was like, yes, be patient.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: Because one of my track record is
30:39
SPEAKER_01: Every year at the end of the season, that's when my athletes go fast.
30:44
SPEAKER_01: Which is how you want it to be happening.
30:45
Okay,
30:45
in the beginning of the season,
30:46
I said,
30:47
you just wait until the end of the season.
30:49
SPEAKER_01: Because I know what's going to come.
30:51
SPEAKER_01: Because I go on a cycle of how I do my cycling in my friends too.
30:56
SPEAKER_01: the workouts,
30:57
and as we get closer to the nationals or the conference or the
31:02
championships,
31:03
SPEAKER_01: we start tapering down and they start seeing the times dropping.
31:06
SPEAKER_01: That goes from a cross-country runners,
31:08
SPEAKER_01: that goes from a deep-mid district runners,
31:09
SPEAKER_01: that goes from a jumpers,
31:11
SPEAKER_01: that goes from a sprinters.
31:12
SPEAKER_01: It's just a, it's a science.
31:15
Matter of fact,
31:16
coaching is a science and most people think you just go and run
31:20
fast every day.
31:21
SPEAKER_01: No, it doesn't work like that.
31:22
It's a science where you got to let the body peak when it's
31:25
supposed to peak to
31:27
SPEAKER_01: high performance so that it can have good success when it matters.
31:31
SPEAKER_01: And in high school or in college now, you have to run fast.
31:38
SPEAKER_01: at the end of the season in conference or nationals.
31:41
SPEAKER_01: Okay, you can run fast at the beginning of the season.
31:43
SPEAKER_01: You might make it in, but you might just fizz out in the first round.
31:47
SPEAKER_01: No one knows about you.
31:49
SPEAKER_01: But if you build and when you get to conference,
31:52
SPEAKER_01: you drop that fast time where you can get into nationals,
31:55
that's even better for you because you're coming down and
31:59
that's the process that
32:00
most people need to focus on and not worry about running a fast
32:02
time early and then
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SPEAKER_01: cannot repeat it at the end of the season.
32:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
32:08
SPEAKER_00: No, I mean, I think that's the right way to do it.
32:10
SPEAKER_00: And with program building,
32:13
SPEAKER_00: part of the deal,
32:14
SPEAKER_00: if you're an existing athlete,
32:16
SPEAKER_00: like you said,
32:17
SPEAKER_00: you can either buy in and try to get faster,
32:22
SPEAKER_00: try to work with the new system,
32:23
SPEAKER_00: or you can opt out.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: And I think oftentimes at D3 schools,
32:27
there can be a situation with a new coach where maybe there is
32:30
more discipline
32:31
SPEAKER_00: that's coming in,
32:32
SPEAKER_00: a new system,
32:33
SPEAKER_00: and it doesn't mesh with how they...
32:36
want to want to act or like what they're used to and so there
32:40
is there is a kind of
32:40
a splitting in a way um but i think in the in the long run like
32:46
you get you get the
32:47
people on your team that you that you ultimately want to be
32:51
coaching and that want
32:52
to follow this vision and and that to what you mentioned
32:55
earlier like we'll take
32:56
that and teach the underclassmen when they come in teach the
32:59
new recruits so
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:03
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think it bodes well for the future of the program.
33:05
SPEAKER_00: One, that you guys are already having results, good results now.
33:09
SPEAKER_00: And then,
33:11
SPEAKER_00: you know,
33:11
SPEAKER_00: you're starting to see this,
33:12
SPEAKER_00: like you said,
33:13
SPEAKER_00: your normal pattern of coaching with the times.
33:17
SPEAKER_00: Breaking up again.
33:17
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
33:21
SPEAKER_01: Sorry, you're breaking up.
33:23
SPEAKER_01: About 30 seconds back.
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SPEAKER_01: I missed what you said about 30 seconds back.
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SPEAKER_00: It's all good.
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SPEAKER_00: I was just saying, good results.
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You guys,
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it seems like the fruits of your labor are coming to fruition
33:33
here.
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SPEAKER_00: But yeah, let's hit pause for a second.
33:38
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it will give my stream some time to buffer here.
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SPEAKER_00: David, Kenneth, thanks for joining Coltrane.
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SPEAKER_00: Any questions for Coach Rose here?
33:47
SPEAKER_00: We'll take a pause and see if anyone has questions.
33:51
SPEAKER_00: It could be recruiting or just about college athletics or
33:58
SPEAKER_00: Once those come through, we'll be able to discuss them.
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SPEAKER_00: If not, no questions, we can keep rolling.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll give it one second here.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm asking you a question then, Coach Rose.
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I know you talked about talent levels and being able to try to
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attract the right talent.
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SPEAKER_00: If a recruit is out there and they're confused, what level am I?
34:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
34:36
SPEAKER_00: You kind of touched on this earlier,
34:37
SPEAKER_00: but what advice would you give them on how to figure out if they're D3,
34:41
SPEAKER_00: D2,
34:41
SPEAKER_00: D1,
34:42
SPEAKER_00: NAIA,
34:42
SPEAKER_00: something else?
34:45
SPEAKER_01: One of the things I try to show the athletes that I go after is
34:51
If I'm coming to you talking to you about trying to go to my
34:55
school and your
34:56
SPEAKER_01: interest is elsewhere,
35:00
SPEAKER_01: you got to look and see,
35:01
SPEAKER_01: hey,
35:02
SPEAKER_01: why is a D3 coach coming and talking to me and not a D2 or D1?
35:08
SPEAKER_01: Everybody has the mindset that, hey, this is where I want to be.
35:11
SPEAKER_01: But are you putting in the work,
35:16
SPEAKER_01: the rest,
35:17
SPEAKER_01: the academic stuff to make sure that you're a D1 caliber athlete?
35:21
material,
35:22
not athlete yet,
35:23
materials for someone to say,
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hey,
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I like that.
35:27
SPEAKER_01: I like that person.
35:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm tracking the freshman year, tracking the sophomore year.
35:32
SPEAKER_01: Here comes the junior year, and I'm seeing the progression.
35:35
SPEAKER_01: I coach you and see that.
35:36
SPEAKER_01: I say, you know what?
35:37
That's what I want because by the time they come to me,
35:40
I don't know what I can do.
35:42
SPEAKER_01: I can get them to where I want them to be.
35:46
SPEAKER_01: But in today's world, like in D1 now, you come ready.
35:51
SPEAKER_01: You got to be ready to go.
35:53
There's not much time for development as back in the day where
35:57
after your first
35:58
SPEAKER_01: year,
35:58
SPEAKER_01: they expect you to,
35:59
SPEAKER_01: you know,
36:00
SPEAKER_01: might not do so well the freshman year.
36:02
SPEAKER_01: But by the time you get to your sophomore and junior year,
36:04
SPEAKER_01: you should be clicking on all cylinder.
36:06
SPEAKER_01: So if they're not talking to you now,
36:11
SPEAKER_01: okay,
36:11
SPEAKER_01: or,
36:12
SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: mentioning anything in terms of a scholarship,
36:15
SPEAKER_01: you know,
36:16
SPEAKER_01: because that's what most people want to hear,
36:17
SPEAKER_01: scholarships.
36:19
SPEAKER_01: You know, ask questions, you know, ask questions.
36:21
SPEAKER_01: What am I not doing so that I can get the schools that I want to go to?
36:28
SPEAKER_01: I want to attract.
36:29
SPEAKER_01: Or what is someone else that is attracting?
36:31
SPEAKER_01: Those are doing that I'm not doing.
36:34
SPEAKER_01: These are questions they not just need to ask the coaches,
36:36
SPEAKER_01: but ask all the athletes that is being attracted.
36:39
SPEAKER_01: Hey, what you do for your practice?
36:41
Not that you're going to do their practice,
36:43
but find out what they are doing.
36:46
SPEAKER_01: you know, find out what program that coach is doing.
36:49
SPEAKER_01: What is that school is doing?
36:51
SPEAKER_01: What are they doing to develop themselves, especially in the summertime?
36:54
SPEAKER_01: Are you doing anything to improve your strength?
36:57
SPEAKER_01: Are you on your fitness?
36:59
SPEAKER_01: You know,
37:00
SPEAKER_01: as you got to,
37:01
SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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research and research doesn't necessarily mean everything that
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you research you're
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SPEAKER_01: going to do because your style might be,
37:09
might not be the same style as someone else's style or your
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coaching style might
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SPEAKER_01: not be the same because you cannot go in
37:16
SPEAKER_01: in season and tell the coach what you're going to do.
37:19
SPEAKER_01: You know, I know on my ship, that's not going to happen.
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SPEAKER_01: You come and say, this is what I'm going to do.
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SPEAKER_01: I'll be like, okay, you can do that over there.
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And if they do it,
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because I tell my athletes,
37:29
it's one of the things I share with my athletes.
37:30
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, it sounds selfish is I don't like to share.
37:34
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
37:35
SPEAKER_01: If an athlete come to me and say,
37:37
SPEAKER_01: coach,
37:37
I want to go practice with that group over there because my mom
37:41
and dad pay for
37:42
SPEAKER_01: this conditioning thing.
37:46
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to tell him, do that.
37:49
SPEAKER_01: Oh, but you don't want me?
37:50
SPEAKER_01: I say, yes, I do want you.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: But you're going over there also.
37:55
SPEAKER_01: And I use a phrase about chicken.
37:59
Most people that talk to me,
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I thought I was never going to use it in this room right here.
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SPEAKER_01: Go for it.
38:03
SPEAKER_01: How about chicken?
38:05
SPEAKER_01: You know, you might like fried chicken.
38:09
SPEAKER_01: Someone else might like baked chicken.
38:12
SPEAKER_01: Someone else might like barbecue chicken.
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Each person make those chicken differently with different
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seasoning and all that stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
38:22
SPEAKER_01: That doesn't mean fried chicken is not good.
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SPEAKER_01: It's good for fried chicken.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: But your style is fried chicken.
38:29
SPEAKER_01: This other person's style is barbecue chicken.
38:32
Here you are going over here doing barbecue chicken stuff and
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then come over here
38:36
SPEAKER_01: and try to do fried chicken stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: You won't get something that tastes nasty.
38:41
SPEAKER_00: It's going to be a weird hybrid, yeah.
38:43
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
38:44
SPEAKER_01: I know people trying this hybrid thing.
38:45
SPEAKER_01: They're trying to say, no, it doesn't work like that.
38:47
SPEAKER_01: Because at the end of the day,
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it's the school that you're running for or the program that
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you're running with is
38:54
SPEAKER_01: going to be the determining factor.
38:56
SPEAKER_01: And if you come to do that,
38:58
SPEAKER_01: their barbecue stuff,
38:59
SPEAKER_01: and come to my program that do fried stuff,
39:03
SPEAKER_01: and then you get hurt because you're running for me,
39:07
SPEAKER_01: the barbecue folks are going to say,
39:08
SPEAKER_01: the fried chicken messed you up.
39:10
SPEAKER_00: Right.
39:10
SPEAKER_00: But in reality, it's trying to slam together two different systems.
39:14
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: And I give athletes recovery days.
39:19
SPEAKER_01: And on a recovery day, I expect to be recovered.
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So the next day when you go hard,
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don't tell me you went over there and did something hard.
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And then the next day when you come back to me,
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you're doing something hard again.
39:30
SPEAKER_01: And didn't tell me that.
39:33
SPEAKER_01: So that's why I tell them I don't like to share.
39:36
SPEAKER_01: It seems selfish.
39:37
SPEAKER_01: It's either I have it all for myself.
39:39
SPEAKER_01: So if you mess up, I know where to go back and look to fix the problem.
39:44
SPEAKER_01: If I don't know what you're doing when you're not in my presence.
39:47
SPEAKER_00: You can't solve it.
39:49
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
39:49
SPEAKER_01: So athletes that is trying to look to be recruited,
39:53
SPEAKER_01: they need to communicate well with their high school coach.
39:57
SPEAKER_01: if they're club coaches as well,
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and let the two work and don't try and play the two to try and
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improve themselves
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SPEAKER_01: on their own term or on their YouTube term.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: They see something on YouTube,
40:08
SPEAKER_01: nothing wrong with YouTube because I utilize YouTube,
40:11
SPEAKER_01: but I know what I'm looking for.
40:13
SPEAKER_01: And when I see something, that is good, but it's not for my athlete.
40:17
Because if my athlete is at a first grade level and the stuff
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that they're talking
40:22
about is a ninth grade level and I give it to my first grade
40:26
level athlete,
40:27
SPEAKER_01: it's going to break them.
40:27
SPEAKER_01: It's not going to work.
40:29
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
40:31
SPEAKER_01: That doesn't mean it's not something good.
40:32
SPEAKER_01: I'll wait until my athlete gets to ninth grade level.
40:34
SPEAKER_01: I'll say, hey, no, try that.
40:37
SPEAKER_01: And that's one of the problems.
40:38
Folks will see stuff,
40:39
see pros do stuff online and say,
40:42
that's what I want to do.
40:43
SPEAKER_01: But they don't have the strength.
40:44
SPEAKER_01: They can maintain it and get themselves hurt.
40:48
SPEAKER_01: Yes,
40:48
SPEAKER_01: they might see some improvement,
40:50
SPEAKER_01: but in the long run,
40:50
SPEAKER_01: they're going to find themselves getting hurt,
40:52
SPEAKER_01: getting fatigued,
40:54
SPEAKER_01: or not get the results that they were expected.
40:58
SPEAKER_01: So a young athlete looking to be recruited,
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SPEAKER_01: I would say communicate to your coaches,
41:05
SPEAKER_01: communicate to your peers that you see,
41:07
SPEAKER_01: find out what they're doing,
41:08
SPEAKER_01: and hopefully you have a coach that can
41:13
decipher the information for you and help you with that
41:16
information to help you get better.
41:18
And hopefully that can net where a college coach,
41:21
D1,
41:21
D2,
41:22
whatever your desire is,
41:24
see you.
41:25
SPEAKER_01: And if not also, hit them books.
41:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm saying that now.
41:29
SPEAKER_01: I wish someone had told me that when I was in high school.
41:32
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
41:33
SPEAKER_01: Hit them books and don't go hang out all the time because the party will,
41:38
SPEAKER_01: every week there's always the party of the year.
41:40
SPEAKER_00: Always be there.
41:41
SPEAKER_01: It's always going to be there.
41:42
SPEAKER_01: If you miss that one next week, stay, live long enough.
41:45
SPEAKER_01: There's another one next week.
41:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's true.
41:48
SPEAKER_00: Well, we have our first question.
41:50
SPEAKER_00: Before we do that,
41:50
SPEAKER_00: I just want to highlight a couple of things you said,
41:52
SPEAKER_00: because I think there's a lot of value in that.
41:56
SPEAKER_00: One, the value of rest days.
41:58
As a high schooler,
42:00
you're going to feel like you can go play three games in a day.
42:05
SPEAKER_00: You can run a meet and then go do a workout and you'll feel great.
42:09
But once you get into a college system and the demands on your
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body start going up,
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the value of a rest day and getting time off your feet goes up
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exponentially.
42:21
SPEAKER_00: If you want to say anything else on that.
42:24
SPEAKER_01: That's amazing that you say that because...
42:28
SPEAKER_01: In high school, I had to rest.
42:30
When my coach tell me to rest,
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I rested because I used to go home so tired.
42:39
SPEAKER_01: I used to be late pretty much every day for school.
42:43
SPEAKER_01: My classes used to start at 8.20.
42:46
SPEAKER_01: I show up at like 8.30 every day until 12 o'clock lunchtime.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm sleeping most of the time in class because I was that tired.
42:55
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
42:56
SPEAKER_01: Because I'll get home, practice ends like 5.30, 6 o'clock.
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SPEAKER_01: And by the time I get home, it's like 8.30, 9 o'clock.
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SPEAKER_01: And then, because where I live in Jamaica, we take public transportation.
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It's not like here where a school bus...
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I don't...
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Where are you located at?
43:12
SPEAKER_00: California now.
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But I grew up on the East Coast,
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so I definitely had the big yellow bus would come to my house.
43:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the bus deal.
43:18
SPEAKER_01: The bus deal.
43:20
SPEAKER_01: In Jamaica, it's not like that.
43:21
You got to go take public transportation,
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fight crowds getting on bus and stuff like that.
43:25
SPEAKER_01: So...
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SPEAKER_01: By the time you get home, you're tired.
43:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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And I'll sleep and don't want to wake up because,
43:31
plus,
43:32
you're a teenager growing.
43:33
SPEAKER_01: Oh, boy.
43:34
SPEAKER_01: But rest is vital.
43:35
SPEAKER_01: That's all I got to say to you when your coach tells you to rest.
43:39
SPEAKER_01: Don't be like, oh, I got time to do other things.
43:41
SPEAKER_01: No.
43:42
SPEAKER_01: Rest.
43:43
SPEAKER_01: Because I know in my days,
43:46
SPEAKER_01: when my coach tells me to rest,
43:47
SPEAKER_01: what's coming on Monday is going to be hard.
43:50
SPEAKER_01: So he wants us to be fully recovered so that we can do the workouts
43:55
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
43:56
SPEAKER_01: And do it the way we're supposed to do it.
43:57
SPEAKER_01: Right.
43:58
SPEAKER_00: It's part of the plan.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
44:01
SPEAKER_00: It's a part of the workout.
44:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
44:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
44:03
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
44:03
SPEAKER_00: All right.
44:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, let's move to our first question here.
44:08
SPEAKER_00: Question comes from Kenneth Ebo here.
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SPEAKER_00: Coach,
44:11
are you recruiting to build your roster size as a relatively
44:15
new coach for the
44:15
SPEAKER_00: program or to your coaching capabilities?
44:18
SPEAKER_00: And I'll let you interpret that on that last part.
44:21
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
44:22
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: My coaching capability,
44:25
SPEAKER_01: I recruit to build my roster size plus to build to what my strengths are.
44:34
And my coaching ability in terms of coaching is,
44:38
I don't think I'm efficient at its pole vault.
44:43
SPEAKER_01: Don't put it like that.
44:45
SPEAKER_01: So you think of everything else, I'm efficient in.
44:50
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so...
44:51
SPEAKER_01: If it's pole vaulting,
44:52
SPEAKER_01: I dabbled in it one time and I realized it's an event,
44:58
a discipline that requires constant attention to details and
45:04
stuff like that.
45:04
SPEAKER_01: And if you don't pay attention to details in pole vault,
45:08
SPEAKER_01: someone can get themselves seriously hurt.
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SPEAKER_01: All the other events are pretty much very efficient in it.
45:16
in reference to so I look for athletes in doing short put
45:20
discourse javelin I mean
45:23
high jump long jump triple jump um hundred hurdles I mean
45:29
everything I'm well I
45:30
think I'm well versed in terms of knowing how to get athlete to
45:34
where they need to
45:34
be in those events um and that's doing it over years of years
45:39
of doing it do um
45:40
SPEAKER_01: with AAU youth clubs and high school whatever I had on my team
45:46
SPEAKER_01: If I had shot putters only, my shot putters seem to succeed.
45:52
SPEAKER_01: If I only had jumpers, they seem to succeed.
45:56
SPEAKER_01: So if I have hurdlers, they're very efficient going over the hurdles.
46:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm efficient in coaching that as well.
46:03
SPEAKER_01: So the only events,
46:05
SPEAKER_01: like I said,
46:07
I won't say I'm good at is pole vault because it takes a lot of
46:12
detail in focusing
46:14
SPEAKER_01: on things.
46:15
SPEAKER_01: in reference to what you got to do.
46:17
SPEAKER_01: And sometimes it's not a track thing.
46:19
SPEAKER_01: It's more of a, I want to say, a fear factor thing.
46:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
46:27
SPEAKER_00: How do you, how do you compliment your knowledge then?
46:29
SPEAKER_00: Like,
46:29
SPEAKER_00: do you bring in a pole vaulting assistant coach or do you have,
46:33
because obviously you can't be everywhere once you got a track
46:35
that's off campus.
46:36
SPEAKER_00: Like, how do you think about building a staff at Regent?
46:41
SPEAKER_01: Oh,
46:42
SPEAKER_01: Right now,
46:42
most of my staff is athletes that I used to coach that are
46:46
finished college and are
46:48
SPEAKER_01: back in the area.
46:53
Two of my coaches are high school athletes that I coached that
46:58
went off to college.
46:59
Both went to D1 schools and came back and wanted to just be
47:03
around and help me with
47:05
SPEAKER_01: what I'm doing because even when they were in college,
47:08
SPEAKER_01: they were calling me asking me how to do certain things and
47:11
SPEAKER_01: Can they do this?
47:12
And I always tell them,
47:13
look,
47:14
I don't know what your coach has in mind for you.
47:16
SPEAKER_01: As much as I want to tell you what to do,
47:20
I'm not going to do that because I would hate for someone to do
47:23
that to me when I
47:23
SPEAKER_01: was in high school.
47:25
SPEAKER_01: So I'm not going to do that.
47:26
Just trust what the coach is saying,
47:27
bind to what he's saying for you to do.
47:29
SPEAKER_01: I even do it with my own kids.
47:32
SPEAKER_01: My own kids are pretty successful in college.
47:36
SPEAKER_01: And I see them doing stuff that
47:39
SPEAKER_01: And no, it's not my style, but I don't say anything.
47:43
I tell them to trust their coaches and trust the process,
47:46
what the coaches is doing.
47:48
SPEAKER_01: You know, I say it might not be.
47:49
SPEAKER_01: I like curry chicken, if you want these to know.
47:52
SPEAKER_01: I like curry chicken.
47:53
SPEAKER_01: So I did curry chicken.
47:56
And if that coach is not a curry chicken coach,
47:58
learn,
48:00
get that workout in.
48:03
SPEAKER_01: And one of them has been very successful.
48:08
SPEAKER_01: And I think because the coach was similar to our coach.
48:13
SPEAKER_01: So it was an easy transition for her.
48:16
SPEAKER_01: The other one,
48:18
SPEAKER_01: two boys,
48:20
SPEAKER_01: different coaching style,
48:22
SPEAKER_01: and they didn't get the results like what they had in high school.
48:27
SPEAKER_01: Yet.
48:29
SPEAKER_01: One already finished, but one is still in college now.
48:33
SPEAKER_01: And he's not improving the way he should improve.
48:38
SPEAKER_01: But, hey, it's not for me to say what they're doing is not right.
48:42
SPEAKER_01: He's just going to have to buy into that.
48:44
And that's why I keep telling him to buy into what they're
48:47
telling him to do,
48:47
SPEAKER_01: and he will succeed.
48:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and maybe they have the same thing that happened to you at Auburn.
48:53
SPEAKER_00: They hit their peak as they are finishing their career.
48:56
SPEAKER_00: Yes, absolutely.
48:59
SPEAKER_00: Well, this has been great.
49:01
We're at the top of the hour,
49:02
so I just want to,
49:02
you know,
49:03
it's Sunday night.
49:03
SPEAKER_00: I want to be respectful of your time.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: I'll give the chat a moment to ask a question,
49:10
SPEAKER_00: but while we're doing that,
49:11
SPEAKER_00: we'll ask you the question we ask all our guests.
49:14
SPEAKER_00: If you could go back and talk to an 18-year-old version of yourself,
49:19
SPEAKER_00: what advice would you give us?
49:21
SPEAKER_01: I would not waste my summer when I was in college.
49:24
SPEAKER_01: Not to waste your summer?
49:26
SPEAKER_01: I wasted my summers when I was in college.
49:29
SPEAKER_01: How so?
49:30
SPEAKER_01: I did that until the end of my college years.
49:33
SPEAKER_01: And that's when I had success.
49:36
SPEAKER_01: My first year out after college.
49:40
SPEAKER_01: I used to work real hard during the season, do what I was supposed to do.
49:45
SPEAKER_01: When summertime came around, I'd just go home and didn't do anything.
49:51
SPEAKER_01: Just rest?
49:52
SPEAKER_01: Just rest.
49:53
SPEAKER_01: That was more than rest.
49:56
didn't do anything and I regretted that my freshman year when I
50:01
was in junior
50:02
college then after my sophomore year in junior college the year
50:07
I was waiting to
50:07
transfer when I transferred to Auburn went home I didn't do
50:11
anything for almost
50:12
three months nothing so when I went to Auburn I was just out of
50:17
shape and it took a
50:18
SPEAKER_01: while to get in shape then after my junior year that summer
50:24
SPEAKER_01: Didn't do anything.
50:26
SPEAKER_01: Didn't do anything that summer.
50:29
SPEAKER_01: And the sad thing is my freshman year and sophomore year,
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I had opportunities to make the U-20 teams or a junior or
50:38
senior minor team.
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SPEAKER_01: And I went home and didn't do anything.
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And I was like,
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my gosh,
50:44
because I thought,
50:46
yes,
50:47
my goal was to make it to college.
50:49
And after I got to college,
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that's when my goal might have shifted to say,
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okay,
50:53
SPEAKER_01: let me try and make the Olympic team.
50:56
SPEAKER_01: I wanted to make the Olympic team when I was in high school,
50:58
SPEAKER_01: but in 88,
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SPEAKER_01: I came short and made the junior team.
51:04
SPEAKER_01: And then in 92, when I went to Auburn, I transferred to Auburn.
51:09
SPEAKER_01: Like I said, I wasted those first two years when I was in junior college.
51:13
SPEAKER_01: So where I was,
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SPEAKER_01: I was running some decent time,
51:17
SPEAKER_01: but wasn't the time to try to make the national team.
51:20
SPEAKER_01: And then my last stint in 96,
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SPEAKER_01: where I was running real good, I came up short making the team.
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I went real close,
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but came up short making the team in the 400 meter hurdles.
51:32
SPEAKER_01: So then I tried to,
51:34
SPEAKER_01: when I moved back here to the States,
51:36
SPEAKER_01: I tried to,
51:37
SPEAKER_01: I mean,
51:38
SPEAKER_01: continue because I finished with Auburn.
51:40
SPEAKER_01: I graduated in 94, stayed there 95 and 96.
51:43
SPEAKER_01: And then after that,
51:46
SPEAKER_01: I just,
51:47
SPEAKER_01: my wife and I moved to Virginia because we were in Alabama,
51:50
SPEAKER_01: moved to Virginia.
51:51
SPEAKER_01: And that's history.
51:53
SPEAKER_01: We came here, settled down.
51:55
SPEAKER_01: Then the kids started coming in 2001.
51:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
51:58
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
51:58
SPEAKER_01: Then I ended up coaching.
52:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
52:04
SPEAKER_00: And I was going to say,
52:05
SPEAKER_00: to connect it back to your coaching,
52:07
SPEAKER_00: I think that lesson that you've learned,
52:09
SPEAKER_00: that you learned about your own experience,
52:11
SPEAKER_00: if anything,
52:11
SPEAKER_00: it makes you a better instructor for the next generation.
52:15
SPEAKER_00: You can teach them from both your highs,
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SPEAKER_00: your great successes,
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and then also these perceived failures or areas of improvement
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and help them get
52:24
SPEAKER_00: better.
52:24
SPEAKER_00: So I think that's awesome.
52:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
52:27
SPEAKER_01: It's just like I'm telling them, trust me, been there, done that.
52:30
SPEAKER_01: You don't want to do that.
52:33
SPEAKER_01: I tried it.
52:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I tried it.
52:36
SPEAKER_01: Didn't work.
52:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
52:38
SPEAKER_01: I thought I knew what I was doing, but no.
52:42
SPEAKER_01: That's something I would do differently.
52:45
My freshman and sophomore year in college,
52:48
summers,
52:49
wouldn't have wasted them.
52:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
52:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that time is precious.
52:53
SPEAKER_00: So good reminder for all the kids out there listening to this.
52:56
SPEAKER_00: You know, it goes by quick.
52:58
SPEAKER_00: You know,
52:59
SPEAKER_00: take advantage of the time you have of the teammates,
53:02
SPEAKER_00: of the resources,
53:03
SPEAKER_00: coaches like Coach Rose here to get better.
53:07
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, that's why you're there.
53:09
SPEAKER_00: You're there to develop as a human, as an athlete.
53:11
SPEAKER_00: And so, yeah, trust the process.
53:16
SPEAKER_01: Trust the process.
53:17
SPEAKER_01: Yes, that's not a cliche.
53:20
SPEAKER_01: That's for real.
53:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
53:22
SPEAKER_00: Hey, sorry, we got one more question here.
53:24
SPEAKER_00: Kenneth coming back.
53:26
SPEAKER_00: Coach,
53:26
what are some of your goals for the upcoming season for your
53:28
kids in competition
53:30
SPEAKER_00: and your goals for the next recruiting class?
53:33
SPEAKER_00: Do you need me to say that again?
53:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, repeat that.
53:36
What are some of your goals for the upcoming season for your
53:38
kids in competition
53:40
SPEAKER_00: and your goals for the next recruiting class?
53:43
SPEAKER_01: Oh, for the upcoming season?
53:44
SPEAKER_01: I think we're going to do pretty good for this upcoming season.
53:48
SPEAKER_01: I think we're going to...
53:51
SPEAKER_01: We're going to exceed what we did last year.
53:52
SPEAKER_01: And this year is Regent's first year in NCAA Division III.
53:58
SPEAKER_01: So we won't be going to the, we were in the NCCAA up until last year.
54:06
SPEAKER_01: But this year we're NCAA Division III.
54:08
SPEAKER_01: So we're in our first year provisional year.
54:10
SPEAKER_01: In a coast-to-coast conference, right?
54:14
SPEAKER_01: Yes, we're in the coast-to-coast conference.
54:16
SPEAKER_01: So we do get to go conference championship.
54:19
Winning the conference championship right now,
54:21
I don't think that's in the works.
54:25
SPEAKER_01: However, I want them to, they're going to notice us.
54:29
SPEAKER_01: Let me say it like that.
54:31
We don't have the depth yet to,
54:32
because in conference,
54:33
you win with numbers in conference.
54:37
And we don't have the numbers right now to get those lower
54:41
points that can add up.
54:44
SPEAKER_00: Because you got to win all the events to get team points built up.
54:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
54:49
SPEAKER_01: I see.
54:50
SPEAKER_01: But this year,
54:53
our girls' cross-country team has made history here at Regent
54:56
because since Regent
54:59
SPEAKER_01: had cross-country,
55:01
SPEAKER_01: they never had a feel of a girls' team.
55:03
We did that this year for the first time or first meet that we
55:06
had on the 30th of August.
55:11
SPEAKER_01: We went down to Salisbury and they scored.
55:16
SPEAKER_01: That was history by itself right there.
55:18
So I'm really proud of the girls team and they're getting
55:22
stronger in practice.
55:24
SPEAKER_01: They start, I mean, they start gelling together as a team, as a unit.
55:30
SPEAKER_01: And these are, all my girls are freshmen.
55:33
SPEAKER_01: This is the first year running cross country.
55:35
SPEAKER_01: So I have seven of them right now.
55:38
I have an eighth one that just came to school and I saw her
55:41
walking on campus.
55:42
SPEAKER_01: I said, hey, you want to cross country?
55:45
And she said,
55:46
yes,
55:46
just got to get all our NCAA stuff done out the way so she can
55:52
join us.
55:52
SPEAKER_01: So I'd have eight.
55:53
SPEAKER_01: So I plan to take a team.
55:55
SPEAKER_01: Our country championship this year is in California.
55:59
SPEAKER_01: So we're going to go over there and just test the waters,
56:03
SPEAKER_01: see what it looks like,
56:04
SPEAKER_01: and hopefully turn some heads.
56:06
SPEAKER_01: And then for track,
56:09
SPEAKER_01: it will translate in track where,
56:11
SPEAKER_01: since I've been here,
56:12
SPEAKER_01: every year we've been breaking school records.
56:14
SPEAKER_01: And I tell them it should be easy now,
56:16
but as we build the program and the school records start
56:19
getting to be more
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SPEAKER_01: challenging,
56:23
what I want to do is have most of the school records be erased
56:26
to be respectable.
56:28
SPEAKER_01: So when people go on our website and see the school records,
56:33
SPEAKER_01: oh, I'll be running faster than that time.
56:36
SPEAKER_01: They won't be saying that.
56:37
SPEAKER_01: They say, okay, it's got to be challenging.
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So that's one of the things I'm trying to do here to get to
56:42
build that foundation
56:44
SPEAKER_01: where the records start looking good,
56:46
SPEAKER_01: where people go and see the,
56:48
SPEAKER_01: the,
56:48
SPEAKER_01: um,
56:49
SPEAKER_01: the staff,
56:50
my coaching staff and see their experience in what they've been
56:54
doing in reference
56:55
SPEAKER_01: to building and,
56:58
SPEAKER_01: and,
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SPEAKER_01: and increasing the,
56:59
SPEAKER_01: the,
57:00
SPEAKER_01: um,
57:02
SPEAKER_01: So that's in reference to the athletes that I have on my team.
57:08
SPEAKER_01: And for class of 2026,
57:09
SPEAKER_01: I think that's going to be a great class because so far I got a lot of,
57:13
SPEAKER_01: I want to say,
57:14
SPEAKER_01: verbal commit.
57:16
I'm waiting for them to make that commitment official in
57:19
November,
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December.
57:21
SPEAKER_01: But I have a good class coming in.
57:23
Most of the people I'm bringing in is actually better than the
57:26
ones that I already got.
57:28
SPEAKER_01: And that's a sign of growth right there.
57:33
SPEAKER_01: I really believe after four years of coaching here,
57:36
SPEAKER_01: when I start bringing a class,
57:39
SPEAKER_01: it won't be better than what I have.
57:42
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
57:42
SPEAKER_01: So like I said,
57:44
I started from the bottom of the barrel in recruiting from
57:47
folks and just teach,
57:49
SPEAKER_01: help these athletes to get better.
57:50
SPEAKER_01: And then people that is on the middle of the barrel will see that,
57:54
SPEAKER_01: okay,
57:54
this kid was way down here and now they're running close to
57:56
what I'm running.
57:57
SPEAKER_01: Maybe if I go there,
57:59
SPEAKER_01: I can go faster.
58:00
SPEAKER_01: I get better.
58:01
SPEAKER_01: So that's the plan.
58:02
SPEAKER_01: So hopefully,
58:03
but I do know class of 2026 is going to be really good because
58:07
so far I have about,
58:09
SPEAKER_01: on the girls' side,
58:10
I have about 12 girls that's really interested and eight boys
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that's really
58:14
SPEAKER_01: interested in coming here and making an impact.
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SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
58:19
SPEAKER_01: Is the conference championship... And that's co-op country.
58:23
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry?
58:24
SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
58:25
SPEAKER_00: I was going to say, is the conference championship at Santa Cruz?
58:29
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
58:31
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
58:31
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
58:32
SPEAKER_01: It's at a place called Sunnyvale, I think.
58:34
SPEAKER_01: Sunnyvale.
58:35
SPEAKER_00: Oh, in Sunnyvale.
58:36
SPEAKER_01: San Jose.
58:38
SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
58:39
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
58:39
SPEAKER_01: Sunnyvale, yes.
58:42
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
58:42
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
58:43
SPEAKER_00: Maybe we'll... You know that place?
58:44
SPEAKER_00: I do.
58:45
SPEAKER_00: It's not too far from San Francisco where we're based,
58:47
SPEAKER_00: so maybe we'll have to come out and check out your...
58:50
SPEAKER_00: Check out the team.
58:51
SPEAKER_01: Maybe I need to ask you some questions about the hotels.
58:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
58:56
SPEAKER_00: Sounds good.
58:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we can talk hotels after the call.
58:59
SPEAKER_00: You're breaking up.
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SPEAKER_00: You're breaking up.
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SPEAKER_00: I did not hear you.
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SPEAKER_00: I was just saying, we can talk hotels after the call.
59:08
SPEAKER_01: Okay, cool.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
59:09
SPEAKER_01: Okay, got you.
59:11
SPEAKER_00: All right.
59:12
SPEAKER_00: But we'll wrap it up here.
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SPEAKER_00: Coach Rose, thank you for joining.
59:15
SPEAKER_00: This has been great.
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SPEAKER_00: And I think the program is headed in the right direction.
59:22
SPEAKER_01: I appreciate it.
59:22
SPEAKER_01: Thank you very much.
59:24
SPEAKER_00: All right.
59:25
SPEAKER_00: Thanks to everyone who tuned in.
59:26
SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Kenneth, for the questions.
59:28
SPEAKER_00: We will be back soon with another D3 coach for a live Q&A.
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SPEAKER_00: So make sure to let us know what sport you want to see.
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SPEAKER_00: And this one, track and field, came directly from a reader suggestion.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's why we had Coach Rose on.
59:43
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, we'll see you guys next time.
59:45
SPEAKER_00: Thanks again, Coach Rose.
59:47
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_01: I appreciate you.
59:48
SPEAKER_01: Have a great day.
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SPEAKER_01: God bless.
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SPEAKER_01: Bye.