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Credlin | 28 January · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Kreenlin live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: this Wednesday on Credline, New exclusives sky News polling that
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Speaker 2: confirms the meteoric rise of one nation. It's real. The
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Speaker 2: tensions mount inside the Nationals. One of their own announces
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Speaker 2: he will challenge the leader, David Little Proud next week.
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Speaker 2: Sensible calls from former PMS god Morrison to reform Islamic
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Speaker 2: teaching in Australia to stamp out the rise of radical Islam.
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Speaker 2: And yet within hours top im ums have slammed Morrison.
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Speaker 2: So why these Islamic leaders so reluctant to change.
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Speaker 3: We'll get to that in the moment.
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Speaker 2: Blasted wonderful story out of Regional South Australia that's gone viral. Well,
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Speaker 2: we're going to catch up with that young farmer, Harrison Shusta.
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Speaker 2: I want to know how we did that Paddic tribute
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Speaker 2: and why he thinks its struck a nerve across the country.
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Speaker 2: I'd use today of course, some mortgage holders. Inflation climbing
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Speaker 2: higher than expectation, meaning a rate rise, all but certain
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Speaker 2: next Tuesday, when the RBA meets but the Treasurer, well,
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Speaker 2: he says it's got nothing to do with his spending.
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Speaker 2: For the experts though they disagree.
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Speaker 4: If our budget was the problem, if public spending was
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Speaker 4: the problem, then we wouldn't have seen three interest rate
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Speaker 4: cuts high level.
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Speaker 5: We've got to find yet again that a lot of
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Speaker 5: the factors driving it relate to government spending. The strength
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Speaker 5: has actually come from public spending.
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Speaker 2: Or in Hogan coming up the economists, we'll talk about
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Speaker 2: those mums, about radical Islam and more. But first, more
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Speaker 2: turmoil today inside the former coalition, with the Nationals leader
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Speaker 2: David Little Proud likely to face a spill motion when
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Speaker 2: Parliament returns next week, and.
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Speaker 6: We do have to get this coalition back together again.
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Speaker 6: And that is why I will announce to you right
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Speaker 6: here today. You heard it first. I we'll be moving
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Speaker 6: a spill motion on Monday afternoon in the National Party
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Speaker 6: party room to give my colleagues an option because the
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Speaker 6: reality is is they follow the course thereon Now we
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Speaker 6: are going over the political cliff.
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Speaker 3: Look.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to be unkind here because he's a
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Speaker 2: good bloke, but Colin Boyce says probably only got one
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Speaker 2: vote in the party room and that's his own and
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Speaker 2: pulling on a spiel is much about giving himself a
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Speaker 2: plausible way to quit the Nationals when he loses, given
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Speaker 2: he's in a fight with his own part of the
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Speaker 2: L ANDP and look set to move to the cross
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Speaker 2: bench anyway. That said, anything can happen if a spill
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Speaker 2: is moved, If boys can get someone else to second
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Speaker 2: his motion, well no one can say where it's going
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Speaker 2: to end up. Meanwhile, if the polls are right, poll
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Speaker 2: enhands in to One Nation are going from strength to
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Speaker 2: strength and now have more support than the Liberal National
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Speaker 2: coalition that's governed Australia for two thirds of the past
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Speaker 2: seventy years. Last week's News poll had Won Nation are
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Speaker 2: twenty two percent, one point higher than the coalition, and
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Speaker 2: that's before they blew themselves up over their support for
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Speaker 2: Labour's deeply flawed and rushed hate speech laws. Well at
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Speaker 2: least the Liberal Party did today. There's also an essential
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Speaker 2: poll in the Guardian that's got One Nation ahead of
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Speaker 2: the Libs and the Nats as well. There was a
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Speaker 2: preferred PM poll yesterday that's got Hanson streets ahead of
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Speaker 2: Opposition leader Susan Lee, who herself is likely to face
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Speaker 2: a challenge in the next few weeks. Also today in
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Speaker 2: the first ever Sky News Pulse poll, and we'll get
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Speaker 2: that to that.
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Speaker 3: In the moment.
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Speaker 2: We'll pull it apart with our election analyst Tom Connell. Well,
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Speaker 2: we've got One Nation surging to a twenty five point primary,
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Speaker 2: well ahead of the Libs. Of the Nats they're on
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Speaker 2: twenty percent and Labor there on thirty one. The other
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Speaker 2: strong message from the Sky poll is that voters want
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Speaker 2: immigration down.
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Speaker 3: They went it down fast and far.
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Speaker 2: Sixty four percent of Australians say our immigration rates are
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Speaker 2: too high and forty three percent say it's far too high. Sure,
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Speaker 2: a lot of the pole support for by Nations are
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Speaker 2: protests vote by Conservatives, But I tell you what, it's
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Speaker 2: a worry and are they listening because for years and years,
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Speaker 2: so called liberal strategists have said that the party has
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Speaker 2: to move to the left on climated identity issues in
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Speaker 2: order to win back to your seats, even though the
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Speaker 2: party has fallen harder and faster ever since it went
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Speaker 2: to the left on these issues, and it's failed to
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Speaker 2: stem the increase in the number of seats that TALS
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Speaker 2: have in the Parliament, even though too the only proven
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Speaker 2: way that the Liberals have ever won seats is when
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Speaker 2: there've been a clear and strong alternative to labor. Think
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Speaker 2: John Howard from ninety six to two thousand and four,
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Speaker 2: Tony Abbott in the twenty ten and twenty thirteen elections.
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Speaker 3: Whenever the Liberals have tacked.
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Speaker 2: To the left as they need under Malcolm Turmbule in
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Speaker 2: that case it was the loss then of fourteen seats
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Speaker 2: and almost government in twenty sixteen, they have got themselves
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Speaker 2: into trouble. See the stupidity here. The so called strategists
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Speaker 2: have assumed the conservative voters have nowhere else to go,
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Speaker 2: or if it was an obvious before, it should be
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Speaker 2: now they do have somewhere else to go, and increasingly
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Speaker 2: they're looking pretty happy and settled in that new home.
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Speaker 2: Because what we're seeing here is not just one or
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Speaker 2: two rogue polls. It's fast becoming trend, a movement away
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Speaker 2: from the former coalition to one nation and a vote
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Speaker 2: shift that's starting to lock in and grow.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: One nation might not have well developed policies and a
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Speaker 2: whole slate of well known and competent candidates, but that
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Speaker 2: doesn't matter right now. Voters are looking for someone to
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Speaker 2: ventilate the worries that they've got to talk about the
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Speaker 2: issues they're talking about, not to sweep them under the carpet,
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Speaker 2: or when asked about them in the media, not fudge
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Speaker 2: a response with political spin, because they know when Hansen
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Speaker 2: says she's against net zero, she wants immigration down and
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Speaker 2: supports symbols like the flag, they know she means it,
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Speaker 2: because that's what she's been saying now for almost thirty years.
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Speaker 3: And as not just.
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Speaker 2: Liberal leaders who have walked away from their conservative base,
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Speaker 2: there are big problems inside the party organization that often
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Speaker 2: seems to disrespect its own members, deliberately excluding them from
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Speaker 2: policy debates. And I say in democratic preselections, I have
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Speaker 2: to say it.
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Speaker 3: At times, the.
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Speaker 2: Liberal Party has actively discouraged people from joining lest they
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Speaker 2: upset the factional balance and threaten the pre selections of
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Speaker 2: extinct volcanoes sitting in one safe seat.
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Speaker 3: Now listen to this.
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Speaker 2: In Victoria, shortly after last year's election, membership had reportedly
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Speaker 2: declined from some fifteen thousand to nine thousand, with the
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Speaker 2: average age of sixty eight in the membership. In you
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Speaker 2: so well, some five thousand had reportedly let their membership
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Speaker 2: lapse and six hundred applicants had had their membership refused
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Speaker 2: in recent years. Much as the party organizations now trying
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Speaker 2: to pin the blame on Peter Dutton for last year's
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Speaker 2: catastrophic defeat, He's not the only one who deserves to
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Speaker 2: take responsibility. There has been since Dutton's defeat a ten
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Speaker 2: points slide in their numbers, and that says to me
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Speaker 2: that Dutton is the least to their problems. Now, as
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Speaker 2: you know, I think that Susan Lee's leadership is not viable.
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Speaker 3: At the very start.
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Speaker 2: She pulled the wrong rein by making her leadership all
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Speaker 2: about gender. And yet she's shown good temper and grace
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Speaker 2: under pressure, and she has responded very well to the
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Speaker 2: Bondai massacre. But her handling of that horror show week
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Speaker 2: last week in the Parliament was for me. After the
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Speaker 2: coalition imploded for the second time the last straw, and
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Speaker 2: because the coalition with the National Party is absolutely essential
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Speaker 2: to the success of the Liberals, it can't be put
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Speaker 2: back together under Lee. Almost everyone I've spoken to now
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Speaker 2: concedes that's the case that she is terminal because she
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Speaker 2: cannot rebuild the coalition. Hence, this is why Andrew Hasty
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Speaker 2: and Angus Taylor are now considering their options. But and
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Speaker 2: this is really important, the Liberals would be dead wrong
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Speaker 2: if they think that all they need to do is
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Speaker 2: change the leader. The party actually needs to stand for something.
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Speaker 2: It needs strong and clear polices to make Australia better,
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Speaker 2: and it needs its best warriors on the front beach.
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Speaker 2: It needs to be willing to have a fight with
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Speaker 2: a bad government from day one, and it needs to
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Speaker 2: persuade all those Liberals who are on the verge of
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Speaker 2: gibbe up on it that it once more is the
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Speaker 2: party of Mensies and Howard.
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Speaker 3: If the Party in.
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Speaker 2: Canberra and around the country can't lift its game, it's gone.
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Speaker 3: It is that serious.
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Speaker 2: Without urgent change, it is gone.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: That is a sorry note to start the show, but
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Speaker 2: that is the political reality as I see it. Let's
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Speaker 2: head to Camber now for tonight's stories. Political stories what
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Speaker 2: Sky News reporter Trendy McIntosh.
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Speaker 7: The Reserve Bank is expected to raise interest rates next
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Speaker 7: week after a jump in inflation. Headlining inflation rose to
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Speaker 7: three point eight percent in December. The quarterly read also
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Speaker 7: up to three point four percent.
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Speaker 5: I think at a high level we've got to find
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Speaker 5: yet again that a lot of the factors driving it
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Speaker 5: relate to government spending.
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Speaker 4: If public spending was the primary determinant of interest rate
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Speaker 4: changes in Australia, We've got to remember we've just had,
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Speaker 4: of the course of the last twelve months or so,
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Speaker 4: three interest rate cuts.
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Speaker 8: If the Treasurer of Australia cannot accept responsibility for the problem,
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Speaker 8: he cannot be relied upon to fix it.
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Speaker 7: National's leader David Little Proud is facing a leadership challenge
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Speaker 7: when Parliament returns here next week.
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Speaker 6: I we'll be moving a spill motion on Monday afternoon
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Speaker 6: in the National Party party room to give my colleagues
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Speaker 6: an option because the reality is is they follow the
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Speaker 6: course thereon now we are going over the political cliff.
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Speaker 7: National sources claim mister Boyce doesn't have the numbers to
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Speaker 7: defeat David Little Proud, but the move highlights internal frustrations
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Speaker 7: in the wake of the coalition wars, and China's ambassador
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Speaker 7: warns Australia could face retaliation if the government proceeds with
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Speaker 7: plans to tear up the port of Darwin Lea's in
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Speaker 7: a rare press conference, and Bacheldor Joao wouldn't specify what
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Speaker 7: that action could be.
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Speaker 9: So anything happens like.
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Speaker 10: The port would be taken back by forrest or forcible measures.
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Speaker 2: There we have our obligation to team measure to protect
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Speaker 2: the Chinese company's interest.
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Speaker 7: Trudy Macintosh, Sky News, canbra.
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Speaker 2: Look just before I bring in Tom Connle on this
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Speaker 2: new Pulse poll, can we just underscore the point that
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Speaker 2: right now, all we have announced today by Colin Boyce
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Speaker 2: in the National Party is an intention for him to
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Speaker 2: move a spill motion. But there is no spill motion
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Speaker 2: until that motion has a seconder. Now and all the
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Speaker 2: ringing around on it tonight, I could not find anyone
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Speaker 2: prepared to go on the record to say they will
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Speaker 2: second that motion. So until we have that, it's nothing
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Speaker 2: more that an intention. Let's go now though to the polls,
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Speaker 2: because we've seen in recent months that meteoric rise of
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Speaker 2: one nation and just last week and this is of
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Speaker 2: course in the News poll they overtook the Liberals and
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Speaker 2: the Nationals on primary vote. Now, was that a rogue
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Speaker 2: poll or something more We're launching today of course the
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Speaker 2: new fortnightly poll here on Sky News called the Pulse Poll.
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Speaker 2: So let's dig into it now a little deeper. Well,
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Speaker 2: time you're in the hot seat again. This is our
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Speaker 2: first ever pulse poll, and you're our Sky News chief
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Speaker 2: election analyst.
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Speaker 3: I'm interested in.
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Speaker 2: Yes, we've seen that trend, an increase in the one
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Speaker 2: nation vote for about two and a half three months,
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Speaker 2: but that movement last week for News for one Nation
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Speaker 2: to overtake the then coalition, that series that says that
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Speaker 2: this build now is absolutely on the increase, it's locking in.
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Speaker 2: I'd argue there's some labor vote in there, but there's
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Speaker 2: absolutely a deep, deep vein of coalition support. Our poll,
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Speaker 2: our first of the polls. Polls show this is trend now,
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Speaker 2: isn't it.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly that a lot of people were saying as
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Speaker 11: soon as they saw this News poll, is this sublip, Well,
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Speaker 11: it's not. We're seeing a continued trend, almost perhaps a
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Speaker 11: rush to the exit for coalition voters. Let's take you
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Speaker 11: through and this will look a bit crowded, Peter, because
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Speaker 11: we're showing your viewers here the reality.
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Speaker 12: It's not a coalition, is it anymore?
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Speaker 13: So?
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Speaker 11: This is why we've got all these different parties, Labor
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Speaker 11: down a bit, one nation, as you say, the headline
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Speaker 11: eighteen point six up that since the twenty twenty five elections,
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Speaker 11: so that's what I'm showing a view is here how
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Speaker 11: this compares to the last election where the polls where
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Speaker 11: the primary vote's changing Liberal Party, so the separate Liberal
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Speaker 11: Party going from more than twenty out to fourteen percent.
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Speaker 11: Green's pretty static, Independence a little bit down. And then
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Speaker 11: you get to the L ANDP, so the Liberals and
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Speaker 11: National are still technically together in Queensland. We'll see if
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Speaker 11: that lasts, but you can see their vote goes from
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Speaker 11: seven point one to four that's close to Harving effectively,
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Speaker 11: that's the percent of the National vote, and the Nationals
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Speaker 11: themselves basically harving as well, from three point eight to two.
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Speaker 12: So that's compared to the last election.
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Speaker 11: And even if you put the coalition back together and
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Speaker 11: just pretend it's all one big, happy family, you still
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Speaker 11: get this result. So the coalition would be twenty percent
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Speaker 11: eleven point eight percent down. You can see here that
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Speaker 11: as you alluded to, some labor voter is peeling off
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Speaker 11: to one nation, but mostly the coalition, with.
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Speaker 12: A bit of the other vote there.
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Speaker 11: In terms of where the vote's happening, this will obviously
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Speaker 11: matter as well. Let's go to Metro first of all,
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Speaker 11: out of metro seats is what we're specifying here.
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Speaker 12: This is the overall snapsheet snapshot. It's quite interesting.
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Speaker 11: So later on thirty seven thirty I should say one
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Speaker 11: Nation twenty seven and the coalition twenty This was the
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Speaker 11: Liberal strategy, wasn't it. Out of suburban seats, Look how
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Speaker 11: well one nation's doing there, and in some of them,
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Speaker 11: of course they'll be a lot higher.
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Speaker 12: That's what they have their eye on.
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Speaker 11: Rural seat is an even more stark divide, if you like.
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Speaker 11: So we go to rural seats and this again is
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Speaker 11: nationwide a snapshot. There you can see labor at twenty three,
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Speaker 11: one nation thirty five. Remember they'll be higher and some
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Speaker 11: of them. So clearly this has them winning plenty of
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Speaker 11: those rural seats and national seats. The coalition there on
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Speaker 11: twenty one. So where this vote happens, this won't be
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Speaker 11: every single seat, but this is an indication of just
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Speaker 11: how competitive they're going to be if an election will
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Speaker 11: to be held. Of course, today two party preferred.
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Speaker 12: We'll have a look.
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Speaker 11: First of all, the traditional coalition measure. This is actually
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Speaker 11: static compared to the election. The election was fifty five
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Speaker 11: to forty five, so it is there because you've got
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Speaker 11: Labour's vote going down one nation up and the Coalition
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Speaker 11: vote down, and you'd assume a bit of a swill
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Speaker 11: of preferences, it might go about seventy percent or so
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Speaker 11: back to the Coalition from one nation. If recent elections
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Speaker 11: are a good guy, that trend has been going up.
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Speaker 11: We're also having a look down for the first time
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Speaker 11: two party preferred labor verse one nation. You won't see
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Speaker 11: coalition preference one nation as strongly as vice versa. So
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Speaker 11: there you see a slightly bigger lee for labor fifty
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Speaker 11: seven forty three. But obviously this is a you know,
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Speaker 11: a complete unknown at this point in time in terms
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Speaker 11: of the response as well, because a lot of this
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Speaker 11: is bad news for the coalition. But what about Bondai
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Speaker 11: of course, and Anthony Ebineze's response to Bondai, This is
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Speaker 11: quite interesting how's he responded? This is just post This
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Speaker 11: is not even taking into account, you know, a lack
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Speaker 11: of action on anti Semitism. Five percent very well, thirty
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Speaker 11: eight percent are giving him a bit of a pass
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Speaker 11: at as well as can be expected in a difficult circumstance.
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Speaker 11: But twenty one percent saying even in that difficult circumstance,
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Speaker 11: he should have done better. And this is a big
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Speaker 11: figure here, twenty eight percent very badly.
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Speaker 12: So whilst he might.
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Speaker 11: Have escaped the worst result there possible, which would be
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Speaker 11: a whole lot of people, you know, a stronger percent
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Speaker 11: saying he's done badly, twenty eight percent are very high
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Speaker 11: to say percent to say very badly, and you know
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Speaker 11: you'd feel like he's on Notice another crisis comes up,
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Speaker 11: and how he responds to that, there'll be an even stronger,
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Speaker 11: you'd think, magnifying glass on how the PM does respond.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Tom, just on that point, they're forty nine percent.
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Speaker 2: If you aggregate the last two in net terms that
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Speaker 2: he has not responded well, badly and very badly, you're
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Speaker 2: getting into forty nine percent, getting half the population there,
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Speaker 2: So that's interesting.
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Speaker 3: They don't know, isse are.
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Speaker 2: Pretty small, So that at least tells you that people
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Speaker 2: have watched what's happened over this hot summer and they
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Speaker 2: have still formed a political view. Let's see if we
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Speaker 2: can get that slide up again of out a metro,
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Speaker 2: because this is really interesting. This is where the rubber
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Speaker 2: hits the road when you talk about an issue like immigration,
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Speaker 2: When you talk about issues like housing.
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Speaker 3: People who live in out.
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Speaker 2: Of metro seats, they live with the personal impacts of
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Speaker 2: record high immigration. You know, they're sitting in the traffic,
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Speaker 2: they're struggling to find rental accommodation. There might be issues
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Speaker 2: in the workforce in their jobs. Their neighbors are recently
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Speaker 2: arrived immigrants, so people in their community trying to do
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Speaker 2: the delivery jobs are recently arrived immigrants or students extending
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Speaker 2: their v So you also had a look at immigration,
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Speaker 2: and there is in those numbers an absolute warning for
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Speaker 2: the coalition, isn't there?
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Speaker 12: Yes, there is.
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Speaker 11: So if we're looking at this Ada Metro and the
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Speaker 11: point about this number is whilst you might say, well
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Speaker 11: twenty seven isn't competitive, that's the average. You're going to
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Speaker 11: see seats where that's a lot high. I think of
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Speaker 11: those Western corridor growth areas, for example outside of Melbourne.
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Speaker 11: So that absolutely that number there says they win some
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Speaker 11: of those seats. That's if an election were held today.
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Speaker 11: That's the cavety on all this. And this is immigration
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Speaker 11: you spoke about. Now, this is the point of this
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Speaker 11: survey as you give people multiple answers and you know
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Speaker 11: about the same is relatively high at twenty eight percent,
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Speaker 11: but almost nobody says more immigration three and five, So
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Speaker 11: that's eight percent. And the point is, first of all,
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Speaker 11: you've got sixty four percent saying reduce immigration, but forty
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Speaker 11: three percent nearly half going for a big decrease. Now
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Speaker 11: Labour's been out there saying immigration is decreasing. It is,
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Speaker 11: but from very very high figures. Of course, post COVID
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Speaker 11: there was this build up of people wanting to get in.
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Speaker 11: But the fact that you get so many in in
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Speaker 11: one year, you know, infrastructure just plods along at a
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Speaker 11: certain level.
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Speaker 12: It can't catch up the way that.
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Speaker 11: Immigration actually did in the post COVID era. So it
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Speaker 11: does say to you that the Coalition has tried to
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Speaker 11: make this a point they've campaigned on. Voters are concerned
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Speaker 11: about it, but the vote's not going to them, It's
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Speaker 11: going to one nation.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 11: It's a complex area, and that's why I think it'll
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Speaker 11: be interesting to see one nation's response. Barnaby Joyce is
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Speaker 11: a good retail politician.
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Speaker 12: What do they do on it?
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Speaker 11: Do they go for real policy detail or they keep
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Speaker 11: it broad on this because right now there's anger. The
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Speaker 11: best way to capitalize that and turn that into votes
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Speaker 11: is going to be the question everybody's asking. So far
19:43
Speaker 11: it seems to be one nation doing it more successfully.
19:48
Speaker 2: Just a quick one flash other numbers on the genders plot,
19:50
Speaker 2: because one of the big pushes from Susan's boosters was
19:54
Speaker 2: pick a female leader. Back a female leader, we will
19:58
Speaker 2: get ourselves back in the race with fee male voters.
20:00
Speaker 2: I've always argued, well, we women, we voted on my
20:03
Speaker 2: hell of a lot more than just the gender of
20:04
Speaker 2: the candidate. It hasn't given her any boost whatsoever. In fact,
20:09
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's done better in relation to women.
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Speaker 3: Than Susan Lee has. I won't get a comment.
20:15
Speaker 2: I'll leave it there for people to cogitate at home,
20:17
Speaker 2: and I'll move straight to my panel.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Tom.
20:19
Speaker 2: We're going to get your pulse poll every fortnight. You'll
20:23
Speaker 2: join me here on Kredlin to pull it apart as
20:25
Speaker 2: you have tonight.
20:26
Speaker 3: Thank you.
20:27
Speaker 2: All right, let's bring in my panel senior reporter at
20:29
Speaker 2: Sky News out of Sydney and Carolin Marcus and national
20:32
Speaker 2: affairs editor at the Telegraph skuy News host James Morrow.
20:36
Speaker 2: I made the point there about Colin Boyce. There is
20:39
Speaker 2: no spill motion until he can get himself a seconder.
20:42
Speaker 2: He's got one vote in the room that's probably being generous,
20:45
Speaker 2: that's his own. So I don't think there's necessarily any
20:49
Speaker 2: imminent threat to David Little Proud. However, However, as we
20:53
Speaker 2: know so often James, once these things are open, if
20:56
Speaker 2: it's on, anything can happen. And of course you've got
20:59
Speaker 2: the Nationals now with a little bit of trouble, and
21:02
Speaker 2: you've got plenty of turmoil on the side of the Libs.
21:07
Speaker 2: And for all the talk about the first female leader
21:11
Speaker 2: Susan Lee, does it look like that a line will
21:14
Speaker 2: save her.
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Speaker 9: No, I don't think it will save her. And I
21:17
Speaker 9: mean it's for a number of reasons, not the least
21:19
Speaker 9: of which being the one you just spoke about before,
21:21
Speaker 9: This idea that Liberal voters are going to vote for
21:24
Speaker 9: a female qua female on the basis or gender. You know,
21:28
Speaker 9: I don't buy that anymore. Then I buy that whole
21:31
Speaker 9: spin from the left that what the Liberal Party needs
21:33
Speaker 9: to do is soft shoe immigration and you know, go
21:36
Speaker 9: all in for a big Australia and not talk about
21:38
Speaker 9: the things people want to talk about. If anything, Thomas
21:41
Speaker 9: Paul told us there is that there are a huge
21:44
Speaker 9: number of conversations that people want to be having and
21:47
Speaker 9: they're not having them. They're not being allowed to have
21:50
Speaker 9: them by either of those two parties, and that's why
21:51
Speaker 9: there's that lead to one nation. So what does that
21:54
Speaker 9: mean for the Liberal as well and the Nats. I
21:56
Speaker 9: think anything can happen now. I used to think until
22:00
Speaker 9: Colin Boyce's motion or attempt to raise emotion, I guess
22:03
Speaker 9: you know who's Colin Boyce, So was my first reaction.
22:05
Speaker 9: But then it also said things are so febrile in
22:08
Speaker 9: both of those party rooms right now that any thought
22:10
Speaker 9: that they're going to wait past the next sitting week,
22:13
Speaker 9: which is you know, next week starting on Tuesday. I
22:16
Speaker 9: don't think that's going to happen. And I think there's
22:19
Speaker 9: a bit of news today out of inflation and those
22:22
Speaker 9: devastating economic numbers which are going to mean interest rate
22:25
Speaker 9: pain in all of those outer suburban seats. Tom was
22:28
Speaker 9: just talking about. That's another thing. The more they are
22:30
Speaker 9: not talking about this and talking about themselves, the more
22:34
Speaker 9: votes they are going to lose. Is existential at this point, Peter,
22:38
Speaker 9: for the Libs to come up with a solution, get
22:41
Speaker 9: a leader, and start fighting this government that is presiding
22:43
Speaker 9: over this economic disaster as well as the disasters with
22:47
Speaker 9: the response to Bondai and migration and so many other
22:51
Speaker 9: issues we could talk about.
22:54
Speaker 2: One of the things, James think you one of the
22:56
Speaker 2: things with immigration is, you know, I was watching An Adams,
23:00
Speaker 2: a political analyst, just the other day, is saying, you know,
23:03
Speaker 2: the problem with the numbers here for the Coalition is
23:06
Speaker 2: that Paul and Hanson's leading the charge of immigration, and
23:08
Speaker 2: every time you talk about immigration, she will do well,
23:11
Speaker 2: the Coalition will do badly. And I violently disagree with that, Caroline.
23:15
Speaker 2: The Coalition can run a good line of immigration, but
23:18
Speaker 2: they've got to get out there and actually run it.
23:20
Speaker 2: They've got to have something to say. And the reason
23:22
Speaker 2: Hanson's doing well is there is a vacuum on immigration
23:26
Speaker 2: both major parties, particularly in government, but both major parties,
23:31
Speaker 2: even when they're in opposition, they're not entering the field
23:34
Speaker 2: on this issue. The Coalition has left it wide open
23:37
Speaker 2: for Hanson.
23:38
Speaker 3: Susan Lee. Last year, you know, Andrew Hasty.
23:41
Speaker 2: Went out there and said we've got to have a
23:42
Speaker 2: policy to bring it down. She promptly sacked him, sent
23:45
Speaker 2: him to the back bench, said she'd have something by
23:47
Speaker 2: Christmas dodged that one as well has come back in
23:50
Speaker 2: the new year, and lo and behold is scratching the
23:53
Speaker 2: head to see you know, why are my numbers so bad?
23:55
Speaker 2: Why does everyone want to punch me? And why does
23:58
Speaker 2: no one want to back me? This is precisely why
24:01
Speaker 2: you leave a vacuum and someone is going to fill it.
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Speaker 14: Everyone knows exactly where Pauline Hanson stands on the immigration issues,
24:09
Speaker 14: and they know that she is very tough on immigration.
24:12
Speaker 14: On the other hand, we have a coalition that has
24:15
Speaker 14: been reluctant to put a number on how it would
24:18
Speaker 14: cap immigration to this country, and then we had the
24:22
Speaker 14: Bondni terror attacks, which has opened up a whole new
24:26
Speaker 14: conversation about the dangers of immigration. So of course this
24:32
Speaker 14: is front of mind for people, especially when they're considering
24:35
Speaker 14: national security issues. On what has been the worst terror
24:39
Speaker 14: attack against Jews and the worst terror attack on Australians ever,
24:45
Speaker 14: the worst terror attack on Jews. I was going to
24:47
Speaker 14: say since the October seven attack anywhere in the world,
24:50
Speaker 14: but our worst terror attack is of course people are
24:53
Speaker 14: thinking about it. The Coalition has failed to address the
24:56
Speaker 14: issue properly by coming out strongly and giving a number
25:01
Speaker 14: and attacking it, and therefore people go to pull in Hanson.
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Speaker 3: It's only natural. Of course they do. Of course they do.
25:07
Speaker 3: And James, what about that story? Today?
25:10
Speaker 2: An exclusive look by The Australian and a letter from
25:13
Speaker 2: the Attorney General Michelle Roland that she's written to the
25:16
Speaker 2: Australian National Imam's Council President Shady Alsuliaman to say that
25:22
Speaker 2: the new hate speech laws won't quote prevent legitimate nonviolent
25:26
Speaker 2: criticism of the actions of a foreign country or of
25:30
Speaker 2: particular political ideologies. Now you don't need to read between
25:36
Speaker 2: those lines too hard to see she's referring there to Israel.
25:41
Speaker 2: So the haters of Israel, the haters of Jews, even
25:46
Speaker 2: with these new hate laws, will be able to disguise
25:49
Speaker 2: their anti Semitism as quote opposition to Israel. They'll argue
25:53
Speaker 2: that it's just anti Zionism, and anti Zionism is not
25:57
Speaker 2: anti Semitism. You know, back in Scott Morrison's speech in
26:02
Speaker 2: Israel ib and I where he says there must be
26:05
Speaker 2: reformation of the Islamic faith in Australia if we are
26:11
Speaker 2: to prevail as a country with the values we once had.
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Speaker 9: Well, I mean if Michelle Rowland was nudging any harder
26:19
Speaker 9: with that, I'd wind up with a bruised rib. Peter.
26:22
Speaker 9: I mean, that is such a ridiculous statement that she's
26:26
Speaker 9: made there, because it is giving everybody a guide to say,
26:30
Speaker 9: here's what you say, here's what you don't say. But
26:32
Speaker 9: you can keep saying what you want to say as
26:33
Speaker 9: long as you say it this way. It's just like
26:36
Speaker 9: the criminal penalties that we're going to be in the
26:39
Speaker 9: first iteration of those hate speech laws that Labor tried
26:42
Speaker 9: to get up because of course Liberals demanded they go
26:45
Speaker 9: back to Campberra and they didn't have anything to offer
26:47
Speaker 9: once they got there. Really well done. But in those
26:52
Speaker 9: laws there again. But if you quote the scripture you're okay.
26:57
Speaker 9: You know again, this is this sort of nudge. This week,
27:01
Speaker 9: I had some questions about what Scott Morrison had to say.
27:03
Speaker 9: But I do agree that there needs to be that
27:05
Speaker 9: sort of reformation in Islam. But I think it can't
27:07
Speaker 9: just be in Australia. It has to be a global reformation,
27:11
Speaker 9: you know, throughout that faith.
27:15
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting, you know, in Caroline, you know this
27:18
Speaker 2: very well. In a number of Muslim countries in the
27:20
Speaker 2: Middle East, they are very hardline against radical Islam and
27:27
Speaker 2: Western countries are absolutely weak on this and reap what
27:31
Speaker 2: you saw. I mean, that was the point I guess
27:33
Speaker 2: Scott Morrison was trying to put on the table there
27:37
Speaker 2: in Israel. But already we've got the imums, We've got
27:40
Speaker 2: Shakeshady Elsudiu, and he has hit back this afternoon saying
27:45
Speaker 2: we've got to stop in Australia using terms like radical Islam,
27:50
Speaker 2: going as far as to say that Islam and terrorism
27:54
Speaker 2: shouldn't be linked at all. Does he think it was stupid, Caroline?
27:58
Speaker 2: I mean al akbah and off goes the bomb.
28:01
Speaker 3: Does he think we're stupid?
28:02
Speaker 14: How can we not refer to what happened at Bondai
28:06
Speaker 14: and mentioned radical Islam. The terrorists were allegedly it is
28:11
Speaker 14: going still through the court. The surviving terrorist was allegedly
28:14
Speaker 14: motivated by Islamic State, and police allegedly found an Islamic
28:19
Speaker 14: State flag in his car. It is literally in the
28:23
Speaker 14: name of the terrorist organization. It is impossible to discuss
28:27
Speaker 14: these issues, frankly without talking about radical Islam. And you know,
28:32
Speaker 14: Scott Morrison is right the fact that it owned that
28:34
Speaker 14: it took this attack in which fifteen innocent people lost
28:37
Speaker 14: their lives on an Australian landmark Bondi Beach for Australia
28:43
Speaker 14: to finally ban his book. Career, an extremist organization that
28:48
Speaker 14: is banned in several countries around the world for many years,
28:51
Speaker 14: including Islamic majority countries around the world, says everything you
28:56
Speaker 14: need to know about how we have appeased radical Islam
29:00
Speaker 14: for too long in this country.
29:03
Speaker 2: Just a quick one, Caroline, You've got an exclusive for
29:06
Speaker 2: us with a story from Dimix.
29:08
Speaker 3: What can you tell us?
29:09
Speaker 14: Yes, Well, Dimmicks, the Australian bookseller have banned were removed
29:14
Speaker 14: from its shelves and its website. Books by the anti
29:18
Speaker 14: Israel taxpayer funded children's author Matt chun now I revealed
29:23
Speaker 14: earlier this month Peter that New South Wales Police is
29:26
Speaker 14: investigating this author, who's received tens of thousands of dollars
29:31
Speaker 14: in taxpayer grants from the federal government.
29:34
Speaker 3: He wrote an article a sick article.
29:37
Speaker 14: On January one in his newsletter, essentially challenging the innocence
29:43
Speaker 14: of the victims of the Bonai attack. It was called
29:46
Speaker 14: we don't want fascists. I won't sicken viewers about what
29:50
Speaker 14: he said but he we know the victims included a
29:54
Speaker 14: ten year old girl who he's basically that he's calling
29:57
Speaker 14: them all fascists.
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Speaker 3: Dimmick C. Thanks yeah.
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Speaker 14: David Allen has said the Bondnight tragedy is heartbreaking, absolutely heartbreaking,
30:05
Speaker 14: something that should never have happened. And as we communicated,
30:09
Speaker 14: we are constantly reviewing our offering to ensure our brand
30:13
Speaker 14: is representing the expectations of our customers. So very good news.
30:17
Speaker 14: Some rare corporate leadership on this issue when it comes
30:21
Speaker 14: to anti Semitism. Let's hope other booksellers follow, and let's
30:25
Speaker 14: hope federal government agencies follow and stop giving people like
30:29
Speaker 14: this government grants.
30:32
Speaker 3: I'll love it there, Thank you to you both.
30:34
Speaker 2: Look, just a quick mention that Kevin Rudd has not
30:36
Speaker 2: ruled out a second tilt at the top job in
30:40
Speaker 2: the UN, the UN Secretary General's job. The Prime Minister
30:44
Speaker 2: himself has not ruled out backing Kevin Rudd in a
30:47
Speaker 2: job that is yet to declare he wants. Now, let
30:50
Speaker 2: me tell you I know from experience that if the
30:52
Speaker 2: government does decide to back in a second run for Rudd,
30:57
Speaker 2: it will cost you. It's a tax, many millions of dollars.
31:03
Speaker 2: All right, after the break, we're going to meet that
31:06
Speaker 2: farmer who did some fabulous work with his tractor to
31:09
Speaker 2: celebrate Australia Day.
31:10
Speaker 3: It's gone viral. He'll join me shortly. Welcome back.
31:19
Speaker 2: I just want to mention to James Morrow flagged at
31:22
Speaker 2: then in his comments the inflation numbers out today, the
31:25
Speaker 2: annualized numbers. The rate has increased to three point eight percent.
31:30
Speaker 2: As you know, the RBA likes a target band of
31:32
Speaker 2: between two and three.
31:34
Speaker 3: That's well outside the band.
31:37
Speaker 2: The only leave the RBA has got to get monetary
31:39
Speaker 2: policy under control is lifting or cutting the official cash rate.
31:45
Speaker 2: So when they meet next Tuesday, I don't think there's
31:48
Speaker 2: an economist out there who isn't saying we will cop
31:52
Speaker 2: a rate increase. A fair amount of predictions today from
31:56
Speaker 2: those that I was reading online and looking at elsewhere,
31:59
Speaker 2: that that it would likely not just to have this
32:02
Speaker 2: increase next week, but another two potentially this year. So
32:06
Speaker 2: if you think things are tough now, if it hurt
32:09
Speaker 2: with that increase to your power bill when your mortgage
32:11
Speaker 2: starts to rise as well, it is not good. All right,
32:15
Speaker 2: let's go back now to the South Australian farmer who
32:18
Speaker 2: hit the headlines and Australia for all the right reasons.
32:22
Speaker 2: For the third year in a row, Harrison Schuster has
32:24
Speaker 2: been creating a beautiful tribute in the sprawling paddocks of
32:28
Speaker 2: his family farm, Freeling north of Adelaide. Footage here on
32:33
Speaker 2: the screen is of his latest work. You can see
32:35
Speaker 2: why it went viral, can't you. I mean, not just
32:37
Speaker 2: the veterans loved it, but every fair minded Australian. And
32:41
Speaker 2: I'm pleased to say that Harrison now joins me from
32:43
Speaker 2: that farming freeling north of Adelaide. Harrison, Welcome to the program.
32:47
Speaker 2: I'm so pleased we could get you on because your
32:51
Speaker 2: I guess, active honoring our country went viral. It was
32:55
Speaker 2: sent to me hundreds and hundreds of times over. I
32:59
Speaker 2: want to get to how you did it in a moment,
33:01
Speaker 2: but what motivated you? This is the third time you've
33:04
Speaker 2: done it. Why do you do it.
33:07
Speaker 6: Well?
33:07
Speaker 13: I guess so far it's almost been to sort of
33:10
Speaker 13: drown out negativity of the day early. So I like
33:14
Speaker 13: to sort of post it the day before to almost
33:17
Speaker 13: get a head start and put a positive spin on
33:18
Speaker 13: things for other people to sort of carry on and
33:22
Speaker 13: follow on.
33:22
Speaker 14: With so.
33:25
Speaker 3: Oh, I love that.
33:26
Speaker 2: I love that you do it basically to protect our
33:29
Speaker 2: national day and give everyone out there who loves Australia
33:32
Speaker 2: Day a reason to get up and push your image
33:36
Speaker 2: around and invite others to celebrate. I guess, as we
33:40
Speaker 2: always say, the lottery of life, that we've all been
33:42
Speaker 2: blessed to grow up here. Okay, tell us how you
33:45
Speaker 2: do it. I said last night that I thought you
33:46
Speaker 2: did it by cutting down a stubbled paddock.
33:50
Speaker 3: But is that right? And how does it work in
33:53
Speaker 3: terms of the imagery? Okay?
33:56
Speaker 2: Right, So we get into a stubble paddock, You've got
33:58
Speaker 2: the grain out, you've got your tiller on the back
34:01
Speaker 2: of the tractor there, and off you go. How on
34:04
Speaker 2: Earth when you're driving through the paddocks do you get
34:06
Speaker 2: an image to happen like that?
34:09
Speaker 13: So, yeah, our modern tractors have GPS nowadays, and part
34:13
Speaker 13: of that GPS actually shows us where the edges of
34:15
Speaker 13: paddocks are, so we can we can sort of till
34:17
Speaker 13: right up to the or do everything right up to
34:19
Speaker 13: the edge of the paddic and make most make most
34:22
Speaker 13: efficient use of the land. So and part of that,
34:26
Speaker 13: part of those fence lines on the GPS is you
34:29
Speaker 13: can actually, if you're careful with it, you can swap
34:32
Speaker 13: those fence lines out for something you can showhorn in
34:34
Speaker 13: of your own, like making. So it's actually just it
34:37
Speaker 13: was a matter of tricking the tractor into thinking that
34:40
Speaker 13: the fence line was an image that I actually put
34:42
Speaker 13: in instead, and from there it was.
34:46
Speaker 3: And where did sorry, where did you get the design from?
34:52
Speaker 10: It was actually back and forward.
34:53
Speaker 13: So nowadays, like AI, that's the only thing that is
34:56
Speaker 13: AI about it, not the actual thing itself, but AI
35:01
Speaker 13: assistants are actually getting good enough to sort of go
35:03
Speaker 13: back and forward with ideas about certain things, even images.
35:07
Speaker 13: So it was a bit of back and forward discussion
35:09
Speaker 13: and then coming up with some initial concepts and then
35:12
Speaker 13: editing it just to make sure it's actually got some
35:15
Speaker 13: correct features like for example, the anzac hat with the fold. Yeah,
35:19
Speaker 13: small details, but then adding adding initials and making sure
35:24
Speaker 13: that someone cross is just right, all that sort of stuff.
35:26
Speaker 12: Yeah, So it was.
35:29
Speaker 2: What's been the reaction of your community? What have people
35:31
Speaker 2: said to you?
35:33
Speaker 13: It's been overwhelmingly positive, so it's great to see that, Like,
35:37
Speaker 13: especially recently, it seems to be that people are getting
35:40
Speaker 13: even more into it. It's sort of taken a bit
35:42
Speaker 13: of a turn in the recent in the past few years.
35:44
Speaker 13: Have you noticed the same, Yeah, I have.
35:48
Speaker 2: I have absolutely, And I mean I'm just listening to
35:51
Speaker 2: you thinking you should be Australian in the year or
35:52
Speaker 2: we get you into parliament because you know, I just
35:57
Speaker 2: think it was such a game changer around Australia day
36:01
Speaker 2: to have an image like that. That's you know, a
36:04
Speaker 2: lot of hard work to create. We all shared and
36:06
Speaker 2: felt proud about our country. Are you going to keep
36:08
Speaker 2: it up?
36:09
Speaker 12: That's the thing.
36:10
Speaker 13: So the past three years, the reason I've done it
36:11
Speaker 13: is because we've actually had time to do it.
36:14
Speaker 10: So how would it work?
36:17
Speaker 13: So we usually harvest until the end of February on
36:20
Speaker 13: an average year, or middle end of February, but the
36:23
Speaker 13: past three years have actually been dry enough in the
36:25
Speaker 13: mid North well almost the selling coast of Australia, the
36:28
Speaker 13: whole country. It's just been dry enough the past three
36:31
Speaker 13: years that harvest has finished early enough to be able
36:33
Speaker 13: to do this. So there's been time. So if it
36:36
Speaker 13: doesn't happen next year, just it's a bittersweet, but it
36:39
Speaker 13: just means that that South Australia's had a good season.
36:44
Speaker 2: Well, it is a bittersweet and we want you to
36:45
Speaker 2: have a good season. But I hope someone around the
36:48
Speaker 2: country is going to offer you one of their paddocks
36:50
Speaker 2: and invite you to come and do your magic somewhere else,
36:53
Speaker 2: because I think I'll tell you what. We really need
36:55
Speaker 2: it and we're starting to look for it every year.
36:57
Speaker 2: So good on you, Harrison, thanks for joining me. You're amazing,
37:03
Speaker 2: isn't he amazing? And all those haters out there are
37:06
Speaker 2: down in our farmers. I mean that technology that young
37:09
Speaker 2: farmers these days work with. Those cockpits of those tractors
37:13
Speaker 2: are like flying an aircraft. I mean, good on your Harry,
37:16
Speaker 2: that's fantastic. More of it all right after the break,
37:18
Speaker 2: paul and Hanson says she's sick of Australians playing the
37:21
Speaker 2: victim card. Che She's had a tough message today ahead
37:24
Speaker 2: of that movie launch. Plats how to prevent the senseless
37:27
Speaker 2: desecration of those memorials that honor our fallen soldiers. That's next,
37:38
Speaker 2: Welcome Back. Kelvitch is coming up first. Pauline Hansen. She's
37:41
Speaker 2: at the top of the news cycle, isn't she, And
37:43
Speaker 2: not just because her party is flying in the polls.
37:45
Speaker 2: The Queensland Senators launched a blistering attack on what she
37:48
Speaker 2: calls Australia's a grievance industry, saying she's about done with
37:52
Speaker 2: the nation's obsession with identity politics, and the comments come
37:56
Speaker 2: following the release of a satirical film, a super agressive
38:00
Speaker 2: movie It's called, which expands on her wildly popular Please
38:04
Speaker 2: Explain cartoon series his yeares, Oh.
38:11
Speaker 12: Great, Another day in progressive paradise.
38:13
Speaker 15: Good morning Nam, good morning Rainbow, good morning fellow, quite
38:19
Speaker 15: straight males, good morning Rats, good morning miles, good morning
38:25
Speaker 15: human remains, good morning LANs. No optimism, that's toxic positivity.
38:31
Speaker 12: I'm sorry, it's time for your morning apologies. Why yes,
38:36
Speaker 12: I love vegans for forgiveness.
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Speaker 3: Sorry about that.
38:41
Speaker 2: I thought it was a grab of Paul and Hanson there,
38:43
Speaker 2: but it was the film which.
38:44
Speaker 3: Is being received very well.
38:46
Speaker 2: To talk about this more, One Nation National executive manager
38:49
Speaker 2: Lee Hanson joins us and the head of Advocacy at
38:52
Speaker 2: Women's Forum Australia, Stephanie Bastian. Well, it's a movie length film.
38:58
Speaker 2: As I say, it's doing well. Are in your favor
39:01
Speaker 2: and even a number one a single has come out
39:05
Speaker 2: of that movie.
39:06
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm interested in your take here, Lee.
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Speaker 2: Did you see this coming, even even as a couple
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Speaker 2: of months ago, did you think you would be where
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Speaker 2: you are now with the back end of January twenty six?
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Speaker 16: Isn't it fantastic?
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Speaker 3: Peter?
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Speaker 16: And what a great timing in regards to the rise
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Speaker 16: and the polls. Am I surprised that the movie has
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Speaker 16: been so well received and the feedback has been phenomenally
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Speaker 16: amazing and popular about just how accurate it represents our
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Speaker 16: work society today and gives people permission to be heroes
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Speaker 16: not victims as we say, so I'm not surprised, and sadly,
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Speaker 16: I'm also not surprised that it has the other parties
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Speaker 16: running scared. So as a result, I'm not sure if
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Speaker 16: you've heard today, but our Melbourne screening to tomorrow in
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Speaker 16: the cinema has been canceled. We knew that this was
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Speaker 16: a risk.
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Speaker 3: We knew that with the.
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Speaker 16: Pressure and the rise and the polls, people would be afraid.
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Speaker 16: But it actually just shows exactly to the point what
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Speaker 16: the movie's about about the work society today, that people
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Speaker 16: are afraid to allow people freedom of speech, freedom of
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Speaker 16: critical thinking, and actually what it's going to do is
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Speaker 16: have the opposite effect of what they feel. Instead of
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Speaker 16: shutting us down, it's actually going to create more interest.
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Speaker 16: It's actually going to rise, help us rise in the
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Speaker 16: polls even more because people are curious. So thank you
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Speaker 16: very much, well done.
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Speaker 2: Why the cancelation? Why the cancelation? What's been the reason?
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Speaker 16: Look, and this is a thing they skate around the
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Speaker 16: reason as to why, but we know what the reason is.
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Speaker 16: Why they're afraid of the backlash.
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Speaker 3: They're afraid it's done by the cinema.
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Speaker 16: Correct. Correct, the cinema in Melbourne have renegged on their
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Speaker 16: contract degree moments less than forty eight hours prior to
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Speaker 16: the screening, which is a shame.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's only going to make more and more news
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Speaker 2: stories out there about the film and kick it along.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll get the outcome they wanted. Stephanie, Okay,
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Speaker 2: you've heard all of this, You've read all the reports
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Speaker 2: that we've all been reading about this rise in the
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Speaker 2: one nation vote. Where does the coalition, even the former coalition,
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Speaker 2: let's put them back together at least for the arguments
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Speaker 2: of the debate.
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Speaker 3: Where do they go from here?
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Speaker 1: Well, I think the coalition at the moment, are suffering
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Speaker 1: from a severe lack of leadership.
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Speaker 10: I mean every election we hear.
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Speaker 1: How they've lost or almost lost because you know they're
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Speaker 1: two percent too far to the right. But they're going
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Speaker 1: to be obliterated because of how far to the left
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Speaker 1: they've gone. I mean, I think the bill last week,
41:48
Speaker 1: the free speech Bill, was an absolute debarclet should never
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Speaker 1: have been supported, particularly having received it the day that
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Speaker 1: they voted on it. And now the coalition's fallen apart
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Speaker 1: as a result of the Nats walking away. I think
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Speaker 1: they need to go back to ground zero. I think
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Speaker 1: they need to have a leadership a ballot because Susan
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Speaker 1: Lee is clearly not bringing the party together.
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Speaker 10: She seems to be indecisive.
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Speaker 1: But from the way it looks here, they're in a
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Speaker 1: much worse state than when Darton lost the election.
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Speaker 2: So let's go from Australians, wonderful Australians like Harry Shusta,
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Speaker 2: the famer from South Australia that we just met a
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Speaker 2: moment ago, and let's look what other Australians have done
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Speaker 2: in and around Australia day.
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Speaker 3: Because we've got some vision.
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Speaker 2: Now of the war Memorial in Melbourne's outer ease being
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Speaker 2: smashed with sledgehammers.
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Speaker 3: That's out there publicly.
42:38
Speaker 2: We've got those scenes out of Brisbane of people burning
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Speaker 2: the Australian flag.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Lee, you're in charge. What would you do here?
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Speaker 16: Hold them to account. They would be charged with the
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Speaker 16: full force of the law and they would be held
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Speaker 16: to account for their actions. We need to stamp out
42:58
Speaker 16: this hateful behavior is not okay. Burning our flag and
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Speaker 16: what that represents for hate for our country and our
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Speaker 16: people here should not be tolerated. Nor vandalism of any way,
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Speaker 16: shape or form is okay. Let alone to our war memorials.
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Speaker 16: Who are those who veterans who have fallen for us
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Speaker 16: to give us our rights and our freedom of speech
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Speaker 16: and safety in this country. So to spit on that
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Speaker 16: and to vandalize that, I am disgusted, absolutely disgusted. But
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Speaker 16: what is more the case, Peter, is that they are cowards.
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Speaker 16: The fact that they do this in the cloak of night,
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Speaker 16: with face coverings and don't show who they are doesn't
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Speaker 16: mean they're strong or they're powerful. It actually just shows
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Speaker 16: the complete opposite. They are weak, they are gutless, and
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Speaker 16: they are cowards. And I hope to goodness we are
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Speaker 16: able to identify who they are and they should be
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Speaker 16: held accountable full force.
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Speaker 3: Stephan.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting, you know, it is about leadership. When I
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Speaker 2: was in Florida for a brief period over Christmas, I
43:57
Speaker 2: was on a highway and obviously we've got a Republican
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Speaker 2: governor there in charge, Ronda Santis.
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Speaker 3: Who means business.
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Speaker 2: Nowhere on that highway and I was on it for
44:07
Speaker 2: about an hour and a half, did I see GRAFFITTI
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Speaker 2: there were patches where they had been graffiti, but they
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Speaker 2: were all painted over. And it struck me, and it
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Speaker 2: shouldn't strike me because we should have be in a
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Speaker 2: country here in Australia where our streets are looking as
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Speaker 2: good as they should that there was no graffiti.
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Speaker 3: And I think we've just become so used.
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Speaker 2: To Australia seeing this degradation of our public land, our
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Speaker 2: public monuments, the side of the road. I mean, I
44:33
Speaker 2: could go on potholes and more. We've let the place down,
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Speaker 2: We've let it go to seed. What do you think?
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Speaker 9: Yeah?
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Speaker 10: Absolutely?
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Speaker 1: But I think more concerningly is the rise in the
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Speaker 1: radical left, the acceptance of the radical left. And we
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Speaker 1: saw this when Charlie Kirk was assassinated left wing commentators
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Speaker 1: around Australia almost suggested the ends justified the means.
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Speaker 10: And that's what we're seeing here.
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Speaker 1: We're seeing radical people who hate our country, who are
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Speaker 1: destroying our monuments, They're burning our flag, this anti colonization
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Speaker 1: mantra that's risen out of the pro Palestinian rallies. There's
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Speaker 1: just this widespread acceptance of trashing our country, trashing our.
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Speaker 10: Culture, with no consequences. We all now have to live under.
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Speaker 1: Oppressive hate speech laws, anti vilification laws.
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Speaker 10: I'd abolish the lot tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: But if you're going to oppress nation, at least make
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Speaker 1: it fair and equal and hold everyone.
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Speaker 10: Account to the same standard.
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Speaker 1: No one would get away with burning an indigenous flag,
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Speaker 1: nor should they. It would be vilification against that group
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Speaker 1: of people. But likewise, the Australian flag represents Australians, whether
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Speaker 1: they're First Nations, immigrants or the descendants of settlers and convicts.
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Speaker 10: It's just a disgrace, all right.
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Speaker 2: I will leave it there, Thank you, ladies. We could
45:49
Speaker 2: still say ladies here on Sky News.
45:51
Speaker 3: I will mention some me too.
45:53
Speaker 2: The long Sessencity Council is going to allow people to
45:55
Speaker 2: work four days and get five days pay business up
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Speaker 2: in arms, it's coming to a workplace near you.
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Speaker 3: Mark my words uprobreak. Kel Richards with more.
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Speaker 2: Right, joining me as he does every Wednesday, my wonderful
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Speaker 2: friend Kel Richards with smith of course, and all the
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Speaker 2: other strings to his bo Let's get straight into its
46:22
Speaker 2: tennis season.
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Speaker 3: We'll start with that bit of word flavor if we can.
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Speaker 2: Chris says, they get to forty in the match, they
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Speaker 2: then call it a juice.
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Speaker 3: Where does juice come from?
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Speaker 8: Well, in fact, the whole tennis scoring system is not
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Speaker 8: just deuce. All of it's weird. I mean, zero is love,
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Speaker 8: one point is fifteen, two points is thirty, three points
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Speaker 8: is forty and if both players in a singles match
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Speaker 8: on forty, it's forty all or it's called deuce because
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Speaker 8: for one of them to win they need to score
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Speaker 8: two more points, and deuce means two. Deuce comes from
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Speaker 8: the French word for two, which is what deeur. I
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Speaker 8: pardon my pronunciation dx dieux.
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Speaker 2: So, and what about the love This is unscripted for you,
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Speaker 2: But what about the love? Oh?
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Speaker 8: That comes from the French word meaning the egg, because
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Speaker 8: it's the same as a duck in cricket, A zero,
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Speaker 8: a nought is egg shaped. Consequently, the egg leaf in
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Speaker 8: French or love in English.
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Speaker 2: Aha, all right, perfectly sensible. Now I back the French
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Speaker 2: on that one. An wants to know what about the
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Speaker 2: phrase bite the bullet call? Where does that one come from?
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Speaker 8: Comes from battlefield surgery in the days before the invention
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Speaker 8: of anesthetics. In those days, the only skill, the big
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Speaker 8: skill that a surgeon needed was to be very very
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Speaker 8: very fast. He had to get the damaged leg cut
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Speaker 8: off amputated before the patient died of shock. What they
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Speaker 8: did was they would give the patient ont of spirits
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Speaker 8: to drink and then tell the patient to bite on
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Speaker 8: something hard, such as a bullet. Hence, when you have
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Speaker 8: to be stoic and put up with something terrible, you
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Speaker 8: bite the bullet.
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Speaker 3: Oh that's pretty gruesome.
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Speaker 2: It's knowing through my head that he's saw out there
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Speaker 2: on the battlefield and they're moving fast. No, never a
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Speaker 2: chance to second guess the diagnosis. What about kick the bucket?
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Speaker 2: Jim wants to know where does that expression come from?
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Speaker 8: There was a time when in certain parts of England,
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Speaker 8: when a butcher killed a sheep or a pig, it
48:26
Speaker 8: would be its feet would be nailed up to a
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Speaker 8: timber beam, and the timber beam was called a bucket.
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Speaker 8: Now we're not certain why we think the word came
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Speaker 8: into English from French, but in certain parts of England
48:38
Speaker 8: that beam was called the bucket. When you cut the
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Speaker 8: animal's throat, its feet kicked that timber bar kicked the bucket.
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Speaker 2: I suspect, because I've killed a few sheep in my
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Speaker 2: time with my dad.
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Speaker 3: I suspect that they were hanging it to assist with
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Speaker 3: the bleed. Is that where we're getting it from.
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Speaker 2: Yes, you're hanging the sheep as you're getting the knife
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Speaker 2: out and gutting it. I don't want to be too
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Speaker 2: graphic there, but that's the hard work that it is
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Speaker 2: on a fat all right, wriggle room and Lynn wants
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Speaker 2: to know. Some people say politically, I was a bit
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Speaker 2: like that in politics, but I think there should be
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Speaker 2: more of it in Canberra anyway, reggle room. Lyn wants
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Speaker 2: to know where is the expression riggle room?
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Speaker 3: Where does that one come from?
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Speaker 8: Okay, it started as wiggle room in America nineteen forty one,
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Speaker 8: but then it changed because the English language loves alliteration.
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Speaker 8: Words starting with the same sound, you know, pigging a poke,
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Speaker 8: that sort of thing. So it became our Wriggle room.
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Speaker 8: And the big thing is it changed here in Australia
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Speaker 8: Wriggle Room. That version is our coinage.
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Speaker 2: Ah, there we go. Love it, KEL, love it every Wednesday.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. All right, send your words in.
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Speaker 2: We'll put them on the screen and run through them
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Speaker 2: with KEL.
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Speaker 3: That's it for me.
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Speaker 2: See y'all next week. Oh, next week, see you tomorrow night.
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Speaker 2: Here's Andrew