Latest / Jeep Talk Show / Jeep Scrambler Coming in 2028? Tony & Josh React to the Halo Desert Truck
Transcript
- 0:00(rock music)
- 0:04Idaho Jeep Talk Show people,
- 0:06you know, Josh, I never talk about this.
- 0:09And I always kind of feel a little
- 0:11like I'm bragging too much,
- 0:13but this is the number one
- 0:15(beep)
- 0:15Jeep podcast.
- 0:17Yeah, we are.
- 0:18There's nobody else
- 0:20that's been doing it as long
- 0:21or as good, quality,
- 0:26funny, all that stuff.
- 0:27Nobody else doing it better.
- 0:29And nobody brings you
- 0:30the Jeep infotainment
- 0:31like the Jeep Talk Show.
- 0:32That's just all there is to it.
- 0:33And I decided that it is a personal
- 0:36problem that I have.
- 0:38It wouldn't matter if we had
- 0:40a million downloads a second,
- 0:42I would still be
- 0:43going, why isn't there more?
- 0:45You know?
- 0:48I mean, I'd be happy with the million,
- 0:50but there's always room for improvement.
- 0:53Yeah, exactly, exactly.
- 0:55That's the way I look at it.
- 0:55So I'm tired of thinking that way.
- 0:58This is a good
- 0:59(beep)
- 1:00show.
- 1:01And you should tell people about it.
- 1:03Even if you don't enjoy
- 1:04it, you should just feel bad.
- 1:06There's a show that
- 1:08you watch or listen to
- 1:09that you're not sharing.
- 1:10So share the
- 1:11(beep)
- 1:12show.
- 1:13That goes for you too, Josh.
- 1:15Well, being people's dirty little secret,
- 1:17I mean, I'm no
- 1:18stranger to that, I suppose,
- 1:19but hey, whatever shoe fits.
- 1:22I don't wanna share.
- 1:23I don't wanna share.
- 1:24I just want you by myself.
- 1:25(laughing)
- 1:27All right, besides giving you
- 1:28(beep)
- 1:29in this episode, we're
- 1:30gonna be talking about
- 1:31Jeep's plan for a scrambler.
- 1:34No, I'm not talking about
- 1:35the CJ8, the old scrambler.
- 1:37Talking about a brand new scrambler.
- 1:40I know, I've got some thoughts on it.
- 1:41Oh, I've got some thoughts.
- 1:43I do too, especially one
- 1:45feature that just pisses me off.
- 1:48I think it might be the same feature
- 1:50I'm thinking about. Yeah, I'm sure it is.
- 1:51We'll get into that
- 1:52here in just a minute.
- 1:53But will it happen?
- 1:54Or do you think the
- 1:55scrambler will really happen?
- 1:57I think it's going to.
- 2:00Yeah, okay, you wanna dive into this?
- 2:02All right, so-- Yeah, wait, wait.
- 2:03I'm still doing the teaser.
- 2:05Start pulling on my cord.
- 2:06I'm gonna go, brother.
- 2:07(laughing)
- 2:08Yeah, I understand.
- 2:09So keeping your battery
- 2:11charged without cooking it,
- 2:14and we will have a
- 2:16video voicemail to share.
- 2:18Yes, finally, somebody
- 2:20called in a voicemail,
- 2:21video voicemail besides Josh.
- 2:23Also, and I didn't
- 2:25mention this to you, Josh,
- 2:26are you up for another bonus segment?
- 2:29Oh yeah, I know, I
- 2:30love the bonus material.
- 2:31So yeah, we'll
- 2:31definitely get into some of that.
- 2:32All right. And I've got a
- 2:33(beep)
- 2:34you, you
- 2:34(beep)
- 2:35all lined up for you all too, so.
- 2:37Excellent, so in our bonus segment,
- 2:39which we'll talk about
- 2:40on this show briefly,
- 2:41but you'll have to
- 2:42actually be a YouTube member
- 2:45to our channel to be able to see,
- 2:47or a Patreon
- 2:48subscriber to be able to listen.
- 2:49So in our bonus segment,
- 2:51we're gonna be talking about hard shackle
- 2:53versus soft shackle.
- 2:55Oh, good discussion. That was a request
- 2:58that came in from our
- 2:59listeners, our viewers.
- 3:01They wanted to know about the scrambler,
- 3:03and they wanted to know
- 3:04about the hard shackle
- 3:05versus soft shackle.
- 3:07I think they're trying to wind me up,
- 3:08so I'm talking about like
- 3:10winch, cable, or synthetic rope.
- 3:12Oh no, they might be lining us up
- 3:14to get into a good
- 3:15debate or something like that,
- 3:16but we've got all kinds of good
- 3:17infotainment for you
- 3:18on these topics to fill your ear holes
- 3:20all during whatever
- 3:22you're doing right now.
- 3:23Yes, right, and no, no, I'm
- 3:25not gonna go down that road.
- 3:27All right, so Josh, let's start,
- 3:28let's go with the brand new,
- 3:30coming up soon, Jeep Scrambler.
- 3:34Yeah, so will it happen?
- 3:36I think that is the big question
- 3:37because we've been teased
- 3:38with things before from Jeep,
- 3:39and they've been really, really good
- 3:42at bringing out some
- 3:43amazing looking concepts
- 3:45during Easter Jeep Safari.
- 3:46I mean, for decades,
- 3:47they have brought out
- 3:48some really
- 3:49eye-catching, amazing looking,
- 3:52even like really
- 3:53substantially engineered vehicles,
- 3:56and we never see any of it at all.
- 3:59And so it's time to, I think,
- 4:02listen to the customer base,
- 4:04and Jeep's been doing that
- 4:06for the last six,
- 4:07seven, eight years or so.
- 4:08Now, Jeep's got a new head of design or
- 4:11something like that.
- 4:12His name is Ralph Miles, I
- 4:14think is what his name is,
- 4:15I might be brain farting on that name.
- 4:17Ralph Maggio, yes.
- 4:19No, well, yeah, okay.
- 4:20He's doing a wax on, wax off for sure,
- 4:23but he seems like he's
- 4:25got his thumb on the pulse
- 4:27of what the Jeep world wants.
- 4:29And he says, this is going to be it.
- 4:32We know that we've fallen short.
- 4:35He's admitting mistake.
- 4:36He's admitting fault,
- 4:37which I really, really like
- 4:39because that's something we haven't seen
- 4:41from the C-suite of
- 4:42Jeep in a very long time.
- 4:45So the fact that he's
- 4:46admitting that, yeah,
- 4:47we've kind of dropped the ball
- 4:48and we're going to make up for it,
- 4:50or at least we're going to try.
- 4:51And we're going to do that
- 4:52by giving you a scrambler.
- 4:56Now they could have come
- 4:57up with a different name.
- 4:58Okay, this is one of the things-
- 5:00Like gladiator.
- 5:01Pissing me off, yes.
- 5:03This is one of the things
- 5:04that's been pissing me off
- 5:05with Jeep over the last
- 5:0610 years is they just,
- 5:07they can't come up with an original idea.
- 5:09So they're just going to
- 5:09resurrect a name badge,
- 5:11pull something out of
- 5:12the depths of the anals
- 5:13and go ahead and here you go.
- 5:14Here's the renegade.
- 5:16You son of a-
- 5:17(beep)
- 5:18And it's like, no,
- 5:19that's not what we wanted.
- 5:20I think they've gotten
- 5:22somewhat of a clue of what we want,
- 5:24of what the Jeep world wants.
- 5:25And I think that Ralph is
- 5:27kind of directing the ship
- 5:28towards giving us what we want.
- 5:30Now, are they-
- 5:31Well, Josh, we've
- 5:31talked about this before.
- 5:32We didn't like them calling the new
- 5:34Cherokee a Cherokee.
- 5:36No.
- 5:36It looked too much like a tennis shoe.
- 5:39And I think we agreed.
- 5:41It should have been
- 5:41called the baby grand.
- 5:44Don't insult my Jeep.
- 5:47No doubt.
- 5:49So yeah, Jeep since, I
- 5:50mean, like, what was that?
- 5:502015 or thereabouts?
- 5:52Yeah, they haven't done
- 5:55themselves or the Jeep world
- 5:56any favors by just
- 5:57resurrecting old name badges.
- 5:58They haven't contacted us.
- 5:59I've mentioned this before.
- 6:01All they have to do is ask us.
- 6:03I've been willing to be a
- 6:05consultant for a very long time.
- 6:07I've put it out there.
- 6:08I just, they've blocked my calls.
- 6:10If you would work for cheap,
- 6:11all we need is a couple of
- 6:13mentions in their social media.
- 6:16You know, that's not too much to ask.
- 6:18No.
- 6:19So will it happen?
- 6:20It seems like it's going to.
- 6:21It seems like the scales
- 6:23are tipping this direction.
- 6:25We have a soft date of around 2028.
- 6:29I'm guessing.
- 6:30That's exactly right.
- 6:32We'll probably see some,
- 6:34now this is kind of what they did with
- 6:35like the Grand Cherokee.
- 6:36L, this is what they
- 6:37did with the Wagoneer.
- 6:39This is what they do with the Recon.
- 6:40We're going to kind of see some test
- 6:41models maybe out there.
- 6:42We're going to see
- 6:43some of those spy shots,
- 6:44those spy photos that are
- 6:46probably leaked on purpose.
- 6:47We're on the moo moo.
- 6:50We'll probably see that.
- 6:50I'm going to guess second or third
- 6:51quarter of next year
- 6:52at the earliest.
- 6:54So that's what we can
- 6:55probably be expected
- 6:56as far as what's on the immediate radar.
- 6:59Now, what is this
- 7:00thing going to look like?
- 7:01Well, that's been the big question.
- 7:03Are they going to do the
- 7:04original Jeep scrambler,
- 7:05the original CJ-8, any justice at all?
- 7:08And I thought that
- 7:09they could have done that
- 7:10just by shrinking up the bed of the
- 7:12Gladiator a little bit.
- 7:14Perhaps making a,
- 7:16what was the kit that
- 7:18you could buy for the TJ
- 7:19to make it a pickup?
- 7:21Or was that was the JK?
- 7:22The Brute.
- 7:23The Brute, yeah.
- 7:25There was the TJ and I found that later
- 7:26it was a JK as well.
- 7:29Yeah, something along those lines.
- 7:30I could have gotten a little bit behind
- 7:32as far as a scrambler-esque kind of look.
- 7:34The Brute was cool.
- 7:37Henderson, unofficial use only,
- 7:39has put two old Brute kits,
- 7:43AEV Brute kits on new, or not new,
- 7:48but unused Brute kits
- 7:50on TJ, two TJs recently.
- 7:53Now, seeing one on an LJ,
- 7:55I think would be more along the lines
- 7:57of what we would expect as
- 7:59far as a Jeep looking scrambler,
- 8:01as far as a modern day
- 8:02scrambler, I should say.
- 8:03So whether or not it's going to have
- 8:05a whole lot of homage from what I've seen
- 8:07from the artist renderings so far.
- 8:09And honestly, nobody
- 8:11knows what this thing
- 8:12is going to look like.
- 8:12All this is, is artist renderings
- 8:14from what you can see online,
- 8:16the images that you're going to see
- 8:17are not production vehicles.
- 8:20These are artist renderings,
- 8:22what people think it's going to look like
- 8:23based on previous models,
- 8:25previous design standards,
- 8:27and what Jeep is saying,
- 8:28what we know from Jeep,
- 8:30what Jeep official is saying about
- 8:32what this scrambler is
- 8:34going to be as far as--
- 8:35I've done a little research.
- 8:36Let me tell you what I've found here,
- 8:38what some information that I've found.
- 8:41So key design and utility
- 8:43features, true two door layout
- 8:46with a significantly longer front door.
- 8:49So get ready for it to sag,
- 8:51because you remember the two door cars,
- 8:54the door was a lot of--
- 8:54Jeep and door hinges, you know.
- 8:56We all know how that story ends.
- 8:59So it's going to be a coupe style
- 9:00for easier rear seat access
- 9:03while keeping the sporty two door look.
- 9:06That is what I've got a
- 9:08little hitch in my craw
- 9:09about right now is, okay.
- 9:11So we're basically going
- 9:12to build a Porsche here.
- 9:13It has to have rear seats.
- 9:16Great, okay.
- 9:17So the scrambler is going to have
- 9:19Porsche-like rear seats.
- 9:20It's going to be able
- 9:21to fit a two year old
- 9:22and maybe a bag of groceries.
- 9:24And that's about it.
- 9:25Why the
- 9:26(beep)
- 9:27in all things that are glorious,
- 9:29would they force two seats
- 9:32into the back of a scrambler?
- 9:34No.
- 9:35Well, they can't have,
- 9:36this is the one they,
- 9:37the four doors sell, the four door,
- 9:39the JLUs sell so much
- 9:41better than the JLs,
- 9:42because everybody
- 9:43wants to have that ability
- 9:45to either fill up the back seat with a
- 9:48(beep)
- 9:48Everybody can
- 9:49(beep)
- 9:49off.
- 9:51Well, this is why we don't get two doors,
- 9:54is because people want four doors.
- 9:56Yeah, okay.
- 9:57So here's how they're
- 9:59getting around them being
- 10:02itty bitty tiny midget back seats,
- 10:04is apparently they're going
- 10:05to be a little bit modular,
- 10:07meaning you can kind of flip them around
- 10:09or rotate them or something,
- 10:11because Tony, there's a feature in here
- 10:13that I know that I
- 10:13don't particularly like,
- 10:15but it might be the one
- 10:16that you're thinking of.
- 10:17It's the rear hatch
- 10:18comes off type of thing.
- 10:20It is a K, according to my research,
- 10:22it is a K5 Blazer style top.
- 10:26You remember the old blazers?
- 10:27Oh yeah, where it was kind of like the L,
- 10:29it was like kind of a quarter top, yeah.
- 10:31Yeah, I mean, it was
- 10:31cool, it really looked cool
- 10:33when it was driving around,
- 10:34you'd own Friday,
- 10:35Saturday night downtown.
- 10:37You know what else had
- 10:38that thing like that?
- 10:39The Bronco. The Chevy Avalanche.
- 10:40Oh really?
- 10:42I didn't know about that one,
- 10:43but the Bronco was that way too.
- 10:44They had the back panel that came off
- 10:46and gave you like an
- 10:47actual eight foot bed
- 10:49that basically the rear seats fold down,
- 10:50you put this panel down in the floor,
- 10:53and now you've got like an eight foot bed
- 10:55that intrudes into the cab.
- 10:57I see nothing but
- 10:58problems with this, honestly.
- 10:59That is how they're
- 11:00describing the scrambler,
- 11:02like what you're talking about.
- 11:04Ah.
- 11:04And they also say the bed
- 11:07will have more room in it
- 11:09than the gladiator because of this.
- 11:12You'll be able to carry more stuff
- 11:14in the back of a scrambler
- 11:15than you can with a gladiator.
- 11:18And see, that's not, that shouldn't be,
- 11:21that shouldn't, it shouldn't be that way.
- 11:24The gladiator should
- 11:25be in a full pickup bed.
- 11:27Honestly, they put the
- 11:28rear wheel in the wrong place
- 11:29on those, but still nonetheless, it's,
- 11:33they're trying to, okay, there's
- 11:35something that I read
- 11:36about this truck being like
- 11:37a Swiss army knife of Jeeps.
- 11:39Exactly.
- 11:40This thing can become
- 11:41anything that you want or need it to.
- 11:43And I think trying to
- 11:45please all the people,
- 11:46all the time for all the
- 11:48things is not the way to go.
- 11:50But what if they do it?
- 11:51What if they actually
- 11:52accomplish something
- 11:53that we know can't happen?
- 11:55You know, cause you can't
- 11:56make all things to all people.
- 11:59I don't know about all that.
- 12:01I mean, if anybody
- 12:02could do a Junior Unicorn,
- 12:03it would be Jeep, wouldn't it?
- 12:05Well, okay.
- 12:06I do have an ounce of faith
- 12:08behind the new design guy.
- 12:10He, it sounds like he
- 12:11knows what he's talking about.
- 12:13It sounds like he has good intentions,
- 12:15but you know what
- 12:16they say about, you know,
- 12:17the road to heaven is
- 12:18paved in good intentions.
- 12:19And this thing has the potential
- 12:22of being an absolute nightmare.
- 12:25Oh, absolutely.
- 12:26So I'm gonna do some foreshadowing here,
- 12:30some guessing I'm
- 12:30gonna put on my Jombie hat.
- 12:32And I'm gonna predict
- 12:33that this back hatch thing
- 12:35is going to be a problem for Jeep.
- 12:36It is going to have a recall.
- 12:38Oh, do you think it's gonna leak?
- 12:39Absolutely it's going to leak.
- 12:41Like the Freedom Tops,
- 12:43it's going to leak like a Civ.
- 12:44I'm sorry, but you know,
- 12:46maybe they get it right.
- 12:48I don't know, but I think maybe, okay.
- 12:50Maybe it's right off the showroom floor.
- 12:52And maybe a couple of few
- 12:53years later down the road,
- 12:54it's still okay.
- 12:55But as you get closer to
- 12:56a hundred thousand miles,
- 12:58and if there's any off-road
- 13:00use with this thing whatsoever,
- 13:01I see those seals starting to leak.
- 13:04Absolutely.
- 13:04So we'll see.
- 13:05Let me throw this in,
- 13:07because I think this will set you off.
- 13:08I was kind of concerned about it.
- 13:11So you were right.
- 13:12The research I have read here is,
- 13:14rear seats removable, foldable,
- 13:16and flippable to face rearward.
- 13:19Tailgating jump seat style.
- 13:22Now this is the part I was,
- 13:24they're gonna, that I want you to hear.
- 13:25Side step lets people climb in the back
- 13:29without opening a door.
- 13:32We all know what side
- 13:33steps are good for off-road.
- 13:35Oh no.
- 13:36I don't, I haven't seen it.
- 13:38It may be done right.
- 13:40The saying.
- 13:43It's, yeah.
- 13:45Okay, one of two things.
- 13:46It's either gonna,
- 13:46it's gonna be in the way,
- 13:47like you're talking about,
- 13:49or it's just gonna be a mud pocket,
- 13:52where it's just gonna
- 13:53collect rocks and mud,
- 13:54and it's gonna be a
- 13:56point where there's gonna be
- 13:57a lot of rust that
- 13:58happens 10 years down the road.
- 14:00The other thing I see is
- 14:02it being an absolute wart
- 14:03as far as an eyesore on
- 14:04the side of the vehicle goes.
- 14:06I could see this being
- 14:07very out of place, but I mean,
- 14:10look, they're turning a
- 14:12scrambler into a Subaru brat, Tony.
- 14:15Yeah, you're right.
- 14:16That's a good one.
- 14:17I thought those were cool looking,
- 14:18but I never was gay enough to get one.
- 14:21Just that's what I'm saying.
- 14:22It's like, come on, man.
- 14:23You can't come up with an original idea.
- 14:25This isn't necessarily
- 14:26what people are wanting,
- 14:27but I don't know.
- 14:28Okay, maybe.
- 14:30Okay, okay, wait a minute.
- 14:31So, okay, with top off.
- 14:35Hold on, I hit the desk and
- 14:36now my mic is cutting out.
- 14:38Okay.
- 14:39There it is.
- 14:40Okay, we're back.
- 14:42Edit, edit, edit.
- 14:46Okay, get this.
- 14:47It is a higher bed line, lower,
- 14:51and I don't know what they're talking
- 14:52about here, greenhouse,
- 14:53lower greenhouse than a
- 14:55gladiator for more muscular,
- 14:58less military purposeful side profile.
- 15:02So it's like, I don't understand that.
- 15:05Why would you want to be less military?
- 15:07I'm thinking more
- 15:08military is what you want to be.
- 15:09I mean, put a turret on
- 15:10this thing if you have to.
- 15:12Well, okay, so there's
- 15:13something else that I've read,
- 15:16and this came from Ralph
- 15:19Miles, the designer guy,
- 15:21or Millie's or whatever his name is.
- 15:23And he says that there's
- 15:25something about a halo.
- 15:27Like there's going to be a-
- 15:28This is the halo vehicle.
- 15:30No, no, I had to look that up
- 15:31because I didn't understand what the hell
- 15:32they were talking
- 15:33about, the halo vehicle.
- 15:34Video game, halo, yeah.
- 15:35And so there-
- 15:37No, no, no, no.
- 15:38Let me tell you what it means.
- 15:39I was confused as well.
- 15:41I actually had to look it up.
- 15:42So the halo means this is the showpiece
- 15:47of the Wrangler Gladiator Scrambler line.
- 15:51This is like the Hellcat.
- 15:53This is like the, what is it GM has
- 15:57that's the high performance thing?
- 15:59I'm trying to find it here.
- 16:00Because I was like, I had to ask AI,
- 16:03what the hell did they mean by halo?
- 16:05Because I was
- 16:05thinking of the game as well.
- 16:08That's exactly the direction I was going
- 16:10because a lot of the artist renderings
- 16:13I think are picking up on the halo
- 16:16and they are making it sort of-
- 16:18Oh really?
- 16:19Yes, yes.
- 16:20So they're confused about it as well.
- 16:22So, or I don't know
- 16:24because wouldn't ordinarily
- 16:26something like this,
- 16:27if that's the direction
- 16:28that you're talking
- 16:29about be considered flagship.
- 16:32This is your flagship vehicle.
- 16:33This is what you put, this
- 16:35is like the flagship store.
- 16:37This is the pinnacle, at the top, the
- 16:40number one, the best.
- 16:43No, Wrangler would be at the top
- 16:46or the Grand Wagoneer
- 16:48as far as that goes.
- 16:49This would be in a
- 16:49separate tier into itself then.
- 16:51Of the Wrangler and the Gladiator,
- 16:53the Scrambler is
- 16:54meant to be the pinnacle,
- 16:57above all the other off-road style Jeeps.
- 17:01Anyway, halo as in halo
- 17:03model or halo vehicle.
- 17:06Is car industry slang for a
- 17:09special high profile model
- 17:11that sits at the top
- 17:13of the brand's lineup
- 17:14and is meant to create
- 17:16excitement and prestige
- 17:18for everything else the company sells.
- 17:21And it says, think of
- 17:22it like a glowing halo
- 17:24over the whole brand.
- 17:26So for example, the Dodge
- 17:27Viper that Dodge used to have,
- 17:30the Corvette ZR1 or
- 17:32the Z06 for Chevrolet,
- 17:34the Hellcat Demon cars for
- 17:37Dodge, the Ford GT for Ford,
- 17:39Wrangler Rubicon 392 has
- 17:42already been a mild halo for Jeep.
- 17:45So that's what they mean by halo.
- 17:46I was confused by that.
- 17:48The Grand Cherokee
- 17:49has a Trackhawk version,
- 17:52an SRT version as well.
- 17:54Well, you know, the halo
- 17:55is, I mean, not the halo,
- 17:56the Scrambler is supposed to
- 17:58have an SRT version as well.
- 18:01Did you know about that? Well, okay.
- 18:02So I did hear or read
- 18:04something about that.
- 18:06But there's no way
- 18:07they're gonna be able to Scram
- 18:08a fit of 392 into this thing.
- 18:09No, it's a 6.4 liter Hemi
- 18:13that you're talking
- 18:14about putting in there.
- 18:16No. Yes.
- 18:18That's the information I got.
- 18:19I mean, that's why we're discussing this,
- 18:21but the information I
- 18:22got, yes, absolutely.
- 18:23Is a Pentastar V6 and
- 18:25the Hurricane Turbo 4
- 18:28are what I've seen for
- 18:32approved drive train options
- 18:33at this point.
- 18:34Now you've seen that
- 18:36officially they're gonna put
- 18:37a Hemi into this thing?
- 18:38I'm not saying
- 18:39official because I don't know
- 18:42that any of this stuff has come out,
- 18:43but based on the research that I've done,
- 18:47there, let me see, let me get here.
- 18:48Yeah, SRT version is the centerpiece.
- 18:52Expect it's 6.4 liter, 392 Hemi V8.
- 18:57Currently 470
- 18:59horsepower, 470 pounds torque
- 19:06in the regular 392 paired
- 19:08with eight speed automatic.
- 19:10Possible base engine, a
- 19:122.0 liter Hurricane Turbo 4
- 19:15or a 3.6 Pentastar V6.
- 19:19So that's what I've read is--
- 19:21I'm gonna kind of give it away here,
- 19:22the thing we don't like.
- 19:24Focus on high speed off-road capability
- 19:27rather than pure rock crawling.
- 19:30And I think this is the biggest error
- 19:32that they're gonna make.
- 19:33Yeah, I did hear that
- 19:34they are going to try
- 19:36and the design of this
- 19:39is around Desert Racer.
- 19:41Now there was a couple
- 19:43of concepts that Jeep had
- 19:44over the last 10 years.
- 19:46They did have a two door beach cruiser
- 19:50type of concept vehicle
- 19:52that they brought to Easter Jeep Safari
- 19:54a number of years back.
- 19:55I think it was like a baby blue
- 19:56or something like that
- 19:57two tone paint job stuff.
- 19:58It looked sick, I mean, it was amazing.
- 20:01But this seems to have,
- 20:04from the renderings
- 20:05that I have seen so far,
- 20:06a lot of those sort of
- 20:08design features to it.
- 20:10They are focusing on Desert Rat.
- 20:13They're focusing on Desert Racing,
- 20:14off-road racing and stuff like that.
- 20:16Well like the Raptor, the
- 20:17Ford Raptor, the Bronco.
- 20:19And I don't know,
- 20:22do you know the three letters
- 20:25that we're talking about here?
- 20:27The thing that no jeeper
- 20:28ever wanted a Jeep to have?
- 20:30For XE?
- 20:31Oh, I'm sorry.
- 20:34IFS.
- 20:36Oh yeah, that's right.
- 20:37I did read IFS front and rear likely.
- 20:40Exactly, that's the one
- 20:42that surprised me was the rear.
- 20:43Yeah.
- 20:45So when I read rear IFS.
- 20:50Who gives a
- 20:51(beep)
- 20:51about driving fast off-road?
- 20:54When I read rear IFS,
- 20:57immediately this thing
- 20:58turned into a Polaris Razor.
- 21:00This thing turned into a side by side.
- 21:02I didn't think about that, perfect.
- 21:03Okay, so in my head, all of a sudden,
- 21:06it just like the design concept
- 21:07completely morphed into a
- 21:09vehicle that I was like,
- 21:10oh God, no, no, please don't.
- 21:13So it's one of those
- 21:14things where I hope they keep
- 21:16at least a live rear axle,
- 21:18a solid rear axle in the back.
- 21:20I have a sneaky
- 21:22suspicion that that may only come
- 21:25with their SRT model.
- 21:29I believe that the base models
- 21:30are going to have an IFS variant,
- 21:32which is gonna be really interesting
- 21:34when it comes down to the frame,
- 21:36because I've heard that a lot of the
- 21:39underpinnings of this
- 21:41are what makes this truck is gonna come
- 21:43from the
- 21:44underpinnings of both the Wrangler
- 21:45and the Gladiator,
- 21:46which they said is going
- 21:48to have a similar frame,
- 21:50but modified.
- 21:52Now I'm wondering if that
- 21:53means that they're gonna put
- 21:54subframes on the front and
- 21:56rear to house IFS variants.
- 22:00What is that gonna look like?
- 22:03Are you gonna be able to work on that?
- 22:05And if you jump this
- 22:06thing, went out on the dunes,
- 22:07because you're expecting the Desert Racer
- 22:09to be able to jump off of
- 22:11that Razorback that you just hit,
- 22:13is it gonna completely
- 22:14fold underneath of you?
- 22:15So let me see if this
- 22:18matches what you've been reading.
- 22:20Again, this is the research that I did.
- 22:22So expected classic Jeep traits,
- 22:26removable roof and
- 22:27doors, seven slot grill.
- 22:30I don't know why they
- 22:31didn't make it eight.
- 22:32But anyway, front end
- 22:34styling, lean retro influences,
- 22:37Anvil 715 concept, if
- 22:39you've seen the 715 concept,
- 22:42which I think is not a bad looking,
- 22:44it's a concept,
- 22:45Kaiser era type of things.
- 22:48Yes, I've been waiting for this for you.
- 22:50And I was hoping that
- 22:51they were gonna do it
- 22:52with the Gladiator, but they didn't.
- 22:53But I was looking for some
- 22:54Kaiser-esque design traits
- 22:56to come up on the front end a little bit.
- 22:58And the Gladiator would
- 22:59have been the absolute perfect
- 23:01opportunity to do that with.
- 23:03Instead, they're going
- 23:04to sort of shrink it down
- 23:06a little bit and from the
- 23:07renderings that I've seen,
- 23:09it's gonna even have
- 23:10square headlight or headlight.
- 23:11Oh yeah, that's the next
- 23:13thing I was gonna read.
- 23:14It's a possible shark nose,
- 23:16which you can explain
- 23:17to me what that means.
- 23:18So that's the pointed
- 23:20nose. Forward, canted hood.
- 23:21And then of course the square headlights,
- 23:23which I was amazed
- 23:24at, that's kind of cool.
- 23:25Yeah, so remember the Kaiser truck,
- 23:30how it kind of had, if
- 23:31you're looking from the top down,
- 23:33the grill kind of had
- 23:35like a W shape to it almost.
- 23:36Yeah, it was like
- 23:37slanted forward, wasn't it?
- 23:38And it was slanted forward.
- 23:39So this is going to have that same sort
- 23:42of appearance to it.
- 23:43It's gonna have that forward slant to it.
- 23:46The headlights are gonna be
- 23:47recessed in a little bit deeper.
- 23:50A little bit deeper of
- 23:50a headlight surrounds
- 23:51is what we're expecting.
- 23:53Again, all of them. Well, this is kind of
- 23:54what we were bitching
- 23:55about way back when,
- 23:56when we were talking
- 23:57about the new Cherokee.
- 23:58They had an
- 23:58opportunity to take the Cherokee,
- 24:01modernize it, but have
- 24:03cues from the original.
- 24:06Retro cues, exactly, yeah.
- 24:08So I like this idea
- 24:10because they're pulling things in
- 24:12and even from far back on the Jeep line.
- 24:15Yes, but here's where,
- 24:17so seven slot grill, square headlights.
- 24:19Ooh, now we all know what a
- 24:22whole bunch of the Jeep purists
- 24:24are going to think about that.
- 24:25So they're like, "Wow,
- 24:26now I got a true Jeep,
- 24:28"a seven-stop grill, two
- 24:29doors and round headlights."
- 24:31And this is, I think, gonna
- 24:34(beep)
- 24:35some people off
- 24:36as far as that's
- 24:37concerned. Of course it is.
- 24:38But that being said,
- 24:41from the renderings that I have seen,
- 24:44looks freaking cool.
- 24:46If they go anywhere near
- 24:48as far as what I've seen
- 24:49from designs in their actual design
- 24:52in the production vehicle,
- 24:53anything near the concepts
- 24:54or the artist renderings that I've seen,
- 24:57it is going to be one
- 24:58of the coolest front ends
- 24:59Jeep has released in the last 50 years.
- 25:02I agree.
- 25:03It's gonna be, the only
- 25:04problem I really have with this
- 25:06is the IFS front and rear.
- 25:09That's not a Jeep for me.
- 25:10And I will never buy
- 25:12this because it's IFS.
- 25:16I will agree with you
- 25:18to a certain extent.
- 25:19I'll put an asterisk
- 25:20on that and say that,
- 25:22okay, if they're really
- 25:24leaning into this desert racer aspect
- 25:26of this thing, and
- 25:28this is the design concept
- 25:30they're going with,
- 25:31okay, I can kind of see
- 25:33some potential
- 25:35possibilities if they do it right
- 25:38and they really make the front IFS beefy
- 25:40and they really focus on
- 25:42good suspension geometry
- 25:44and they absolutely put
- 25:46in some good name branding.
- 25:47I wanna see some Fox,
- 25:49I wanna see some King,
- 25:50I wanna see something in that front end
- 25:52like Ford did with the Raptor.
- 25:54I wanna see some Bill
- 25:56Steens up there, some King,
- 25:58I wanna see something up
- 25:59there that is going to be like,
- 26:00yes, look, that means business.
- 26:04Now, let's be clear or let me be clear.
- 26:08Can you build a very robust
- 26:10IFS front or front and rear?
- 26:13Absolutely you can.
- 26:15Yeah.
- 26:16You're gonna pay for it.
- 26:17Think trophy truck.
- 26:19100%, 100%.
- 26:20And that's the direction I think
- 26:21that they're trying to go with this.
- 26:23They want this thing to be a trophy truck
- 26:25off the showroom floor.
- 26:26Right, but let's get
- 26:27realistic about this.
- 26:29Are you going to take
- 26:30your scrambler in the desert
- 26:34and go racing?
- 26:35Are you gonna--
- 26:36That's what they're saying this thing is designed for.
- 26:37Are you gonna get on the--
- 26:38High speed off road.
- 26:39Off the feeder road
- 26:40and all fall to the side.
- 26:42We've all seen it on social media
- 26:43where you're heading all that
- 26:45(beep)
- 26:45it's really cool looking,
- 26:47but what are you gonna use it for?
- 26:49I think they're
- 26:50trying to appeal to people
- 26:51that enjoy to seeing
- 26:53the trophy truck racing.
- 26:55And they're giving you
- 26:56one that you'll never use.
- 26:59I mean, think about all the people
- 27:00that have the off road solid axle version
- 27:04that they never take it off road.
- 27:06So you're gonna have a
- 27:06trophy truck-esque Jeep
- 27:09that you never take in the desert.
- 27:12I think you're more
- 27:13likely to take it off road
- 27:15like rock crawling or mud,
- 27:17something, stuff that
- 27:18solid axles are built for it
- 27:20more so than IFS.
- 27:21I'm gonna delve down the rabbit trail
- 27:25of conspiracy theories here a little bit
- 27:27and just humor me slightly.
- 27:30Of course, of course.
- 27:31So what have we seen a growing trend
- 27:34over the last six,
- 27:36eight years or thereabouts?
- 27:37We've seen a massive growing trend
- 27:40in the expansion of
- 27:41the side-by-side market.
- 27:43Yep.
- 27:44The rate that that is expanding,
- 27:46the rate that it is going,
- 27:47the amount of aftermarket support
- 27:50that is coming out for
- 27:51the side-by-side market
- 27:52is absolutely astonishing.
- 27:55And I think that Jeep as
- 27:58the off road king brand
- 28:01has seen a dramatic drop
- 28:03in sales to a certain extent
- 28:06and they know where it's coming from.
- 28:08Now you can talk about tariffs,
- 28:10you can talk about economy,
- 28:12you can talk about gas
- 28:13prices and all this sort of stuff
- 28:16and how that comes into play.
- 28:17And there may be some arguments for that.
- 28:19But if we look at the strictly,
- 28:25not utilitarian, but
- 28:27a play aspect of Jeep
- 28:30and the weekend warrior stuff,
- 28:32well now people are using the Jeeps
- 28:33to tow their
- 28:34side-by-sides to go play with.
- 28:36I think Jeep wants to
- 28:37bring people back into the fold
- 28:39and I think they're saying,
- 28:41you don't have to go buy another vehicle,
- 28:43you don't have to go buy a side-by-side.
- 28:45You can go do all that stuff,
- 28:47the side-by-side guys
- 28:48are doing now with this.
- 28:51And I think they tried
- 28:52to do that a little bit
- 28:52with the Recon, but it fell flat
- 28:55because they didn't know
- 28:55what the F they were doing.
- 28:56They didn't have the
- 28:57right people behind it.
- 28:58But Jeep now has a couple of people
- 29:00that have mixed some
- 29:01things up in the C-suite
- 29:03and they've got some people now
- 29:05that are head of
- 29:05departments that are kind of,
- 29:07well, shaking things up a
- 29:09little bit and doing things,
- 29:10I think the way that they should have
- 29:11been done years ago.
- 29:13And they are trying to get in
- 29:16on some of this side-by-side cash.
- 29:18And that's why when I
- 29:19heard IFS rear suspension,
- 29:21that's immediately where my mind went.
- 29:23And there's a reason for that
- 29:25because when you go
- 29:26out onto the sand dunes,
- 29:27when you go out into the
- 29:27desert, that is all you see.
- 29:31And for Jeep to wanna
- 29:33capitalize on at least some of that,
- 29:36okay, so we've got to
- 29:37spend $100 million on R&D
- 29:39to create this thing.
- 29:41And we better make sure that this thing
- 29:43is going to appeal to the masses
- 29:46because we're trying to not
- 29:48only get some old Jeep crew back,
- 29:50we're trying to get some
- 29:51of the young blood in here
- 29:52who's got a lot more disposable income.
- 29:54And we don't want them
- 29:55to buy it side-by-side,
- 29:56we want them to buy this.
- 29:58Now, if Jeep
- 29:59Performance Parts gets behind this
- 30:01and has some more stuff
- 30:02in store for this Jeep,
- 30:06then I could see the scrambler being one
- 30:08(beep)
- 30:09of a vehicle in that category.
- 30:12But could this thing
- 30:14be the Swiss Army Knife?
- 30:15Could this thing be the Desert Racer
- 30:18and the Grocery Gator and a Rock Crawler?
- 30:21Could it be a Trail Rig
- 30:23as well as Desert Racer
- 30:24and your daily driver?
- 30:25No, I agree with you,
- 30:26but I'll tell you the
- 30:27thing that pisses me off is,
- 30:29is that Jeep is finally
- 30:31making a two-door little truck,
- 30:33what I would have liked
- 30:34to see in the variant,
- 30:35the Gladiator, but it's not for me.
- 30:40So they may make this,
- 30:42but it's not gonna be a Jeep
- 30:44that I want because it's IFS.
- 30:46Do I think it might be a success?
- 30:48Absolutely, because you
- 30:49remember we were dogging
- 30:50the new Cherokee and it
- 30:56was like, this is crap,
- 30:57this is crap, we wanna get one
- 30:59and then beat the
- 30:59(beep)
- 30:59out of it,
- 31:00put it on YouTube and
- 31:03all the rest of that stuff.
- 31:04And the sales were actually very good.
- 31:07They read the market well.
- 31:10Ish.
- 31:12Yes, for a few years
- 31:15and then it kind of--
- 31:15Oh yeah, no, no, of course.
- 31:17The Gladiator was
- 31:18really good for a few years,
- 31:19sales then it went down.
- 31:22But at least I can take it off road
- 31:23and I don't have to drive
- 31:24fast because I've got IFS.
- 31:27You have to drive fast
- 31:28because it's gonna break at any moment.
- 31:29You wanna get as much
- 31:30fun out of it as possible.
- 31:31Momentum, yeah, you gotta keep going.
- 31:33You can slide on that undercarriage a
- 31:34little bit more, yeah.
- 31:37So anyway, bottom line
- 31:38Jeep is finally building
- 31:40the two-door truck fans have wanted
- 31:42but they're not short wheelbasing it,
- 31:45or not short wheelbasing a Gladiator.
- 31:47They're treating it as a true halo
- 31:49with unique utility tricks
- 31:52and high speed desert focus.
- 31:55Still years away but the
- 31:56details already make it
- 31:58one of the most interesting
- 31:59things in the Jeep pipeline.
- 32:02I agree, it is, it's very interesting.
- 32:04Even if it pisses you
- 32:04off, it's still interesting.
- 32:06Well, it's got us
- 32:07talking, that's for sure.
- 32:08And I'm sure there's others out there
- 32:10that are talking about this as well.
- 32:11In fact, if you're
- 32:12listening to this right now
- 32:13and you've got an
- 32:13opinion about the scrambler
- 32:16and what it could possibly
- 32:17mean for the automotive world
- 32:19or even for the Jeep world in general,
- 32:21we wanna hear what you
- 32:21have to say about it as well.
- 32:22You can always chime in
- 32:23in any number of ways.
- 32:25I encourage you to head
- 32:26over to jeeptalkshow.com
- 32:27slash contact to find out all the ways
- 32:29that you can reach out
- 32:30to the show and engage.
- 32:32Yeah, we love hearing from you guys.
- 32:33Comments and the YouTube videos,
- 32:35comments anywhere
- 32:36you're listening online,
- 32:38even if you wanna go
- 32:40over and give us a review,
- 32:41we love hearing from you.
- 32:42All right, so Josh, we
- 32:44don't normally beat up
- 32:45on our listeners, our viewers,
- 32:48and I don't want to embarrass you,
- 32:49but I thought about this today.
- 32:51I want to understand why,
- 32:54if you can be here working multiple jobs,
- 32:57taking care of your elderly mother
- 33:00that is seriously ill,
- 33:02and you look forward to
- 33:04being here to do the show
- 33:07with all the other
- 33:07stuff that you're going on,
- 33:09and our listeners and our viewers
- 33:11don't have to do a
- 33:12thing but press a button.
- 33:15That's all they have to
- 33:16do to be part of the show.
- 33:18I mean, we like hearing from you,
- 33:20but all you have to do is press a button
- 33:22to listen to the show,
- 33:23and you can share the
- 33:25information with other people,
- 33:27and you don't do it.
- 33:29So here's what we're gonna do.
- 33:30We're gonna start
- 33:30making it really difficult
- 33:32for you to listen to the show, all right?
- 33:33So it's gonna involve math,
- 33:35it's gonna involve some puzzles.
- 33:37No, it's gonna get really f****** tricky.
- 33:39So if you thought it was easy before,
- 33:41you thought it was, "The
- 33:41gravy train's over, people."
- 33:43You wanna listen to
- 33:44the Jeep talk show now?
- 33:45Trigonometry, b******.
- 33:47You remember that stuff
- 33:48they used to do on the computer
- 33:49where you'd move your
- 33:50mouse to the button,
- 33:50the button would move?
- 33:52That's what we ought to do.
- 33:53You have to be, to train.
- 33:56You have to train to listen to the show.
- 33:58You have to work for it, d******.
- 34:01(laughing)
- 34:01Anyway, listen to the show,
- 34:03listen to more of the episodes,
- 34:05watch us on YouTube,
- 34:07comment, like, share,
- 34:08all that b****** thing that you hear
- 34:10from everybody that says it.
- 34:12You know, I love cussing
- 34:13because I'm bleeping all this stuff out.
- 34:15I think it's funny hearing the bleep.
- 34:17I've thought about
- 34:17doing the dolphin noise.
- 34:18Have you ever run
- 34:19across one of those videos
- 34:20where they get the,
- 34:21yeah, where Flipper gets in there?
- 34:23Time and reference, where
- 34:24Flipper does the flipper noise.
- 34:25Yeah.
- 34:27All right.
- 34:28(laughing)
- 34:29Enough of that.
- 34:29And I'll just say, you know,
- 34:31I'll back it up a little bit.
- 34:33We love you.
- 34:33We love you, listen.
- 34:34We love you, listen.
- 34:35Oh yeah.
- 34:35I can't do this without you guys.
- 34:37Well, we could.
- 34:37It's just a lot less fun.
- 34:39Exactly.
- 34:40All right, Josh.
- 34:41So, I'm very-
- 34:44Soft or hard, right?
- 34:44Is that what we're talking about now?
- 34:46What's that?
- 34:47Soft or hard?
- 34:49Well, I was just gonna say-
- 34:51I heard there was gonna be some Viagra
- 34:52at the end of the show.
- 34:53So I was just, I'm
- 34:54kind of getting excited.
- 34:55Well, good, stiff drink, yeah.
- 34:56So, the, anyway,
- 34:59Stellantis is doing this.
- 35:00I think it's gonna happen.
- 35:02And we're gonna get a two-door Jeep,
- 35:04which I think is great.
- 35:05We'll just see.
- 35:06I don't have to like it.
- 35:07I don't have to buy one.
- 35:09And some of the other things
- 35:11they're talking about doing
- 35:12is a V8 and a Gladiator.
- 35:14And it sounds like the
- 35:15Gladiator may be sticking around,
- 35:17which we had heard-
- 35:18As well it should.
- 35:19Yeah, yeah.
- 35:20Well, which we had heard
- 35:21they may be dumping it.
- 35:22All right, Josh.
- 35:23So, you remember when you
- 35:24did the video voicemail?
- 35:26Not talked about it,
- 35:27but you actually got on
- 35:28and gave us a video voicemail.
- 35:30Yeah.
- 35:30Well, we've been
- 35:31promoting the video voicemail
- 35:32and somebody finally left us one
- 35:36and we're gonna play it
- 35:36here in just a second.
- 35:38So if you wanna see the video voicemail,
- 35:40which is kind of a key
- 35:42to the video portion,
- 35:44you need to be over on YouTube or Spotify
- 35:47so you can see it.
- 35:48But we appreciate the video voicemail.
- 35:50But before we get into that,
- 35:52one of the things the gentleman
- 35:54complained about was,
- 35:56you remember when we used
- 35:57to get those audio voicemails
- 35:59and they had three
- 36:00minutes and they ran out of time
- 36:02and then they had the call back in?
- 36:05Yeah, we had-
- 36:05And continued.
- 36:06It was a, Travis, I
- 36:08think was notorious for that.
- 36:09And there was a couple of
- 36:10people that I think that,
- 36:12that yeah, we had some
- 36:12great, great, great stories.
- 36:15Oh, I'm brain-forming the game.
- 36:16I had three minutes, I had a call back a
- 36:17couple of few times.
- 36:19Exactly.
- 36:20So that's what happened on this one
- 36:21because he didn't know it was 30 seconds.
- 36:23So it was like, okay, good.
- 36:25We need to mention that on the show.
- 36:26You got 30 seconds,
- 36:28script it if you need to.
- 36:30Oh, and before you
- 36:31start the video voicemail,
- 36:33turn your phone sideways
- 36:35so it'll be widescreen.
- 36:37Because he found out that
- 36:38whenever he left the voicemail,
- 36:40the video voicemail,
- 36:41that he couldn't turn it
- 36:42after he started the thing.
- 36:44And so it's a vertical-
- 36:45Well, if it's any consolation to whoever it is
- 36:47who did leave us a video voicemail,
- 36:49I think I had to do it about 17 times
- 36:51before I got one that was, you know,
- 36:54I had all the things I
- 36:55wanted to say, it was in time.
- 36:56I had the phone going
- 36:57the right direction.
- 36:57You know, there wasn't
- 36:58something else going on
- 36:59in the background.
- 36:59No, there's a hundred things I had to do.
- 37:01Like, oh, it's not it.
- 37:02It is easy, but the
- 37:04first time you do anything,
- 37:06you do something wrong.
- 37:07I mean, I think we've all
- 37:08experienced the girl saying,
- 37:10that's not it.
- 37:11So it's hard the first time
- 37:13you do it, no pun intended.
- 37:14So anyway, 30 seconds,
- 37:16make sure you get your
- 37:17phone positioned properly.
- 37:19And the other thing,
- 37:20tell people what you were
- 37:23telling me about the guy
- 37:24that you had to email.
- 37:26Because he thought he was being spammed.
- 37:28Spammed or, you know,
- 37:29fished or something like that.
- 37:30Yeah, no.
- 37:31So there is a piece
- 37:32of third-party software
- 37:34that makes this all happen.
- 37:36Look, I know the Jeep talk
- 37:37show is pretty big, you know,
- 37:39and we're pretty cool.
- 37:40We're kind of a big thing
- 37:41and all that sort of stuff.
- 37:42Have a lot of
- 37:43technology going on, real fancy,
- 37:44all that kind of stuff.
- 37:46There's certain things we just cannot do.
- 37:47And so we need the help of
- 37:49this thing called Camflare.
- 37:50And that's what makes the
- 37:51whole video voicemail thing
- 37:53possible.
- 37:54It's like a third party that
- 37:55makes this all come together.
- 37:57You bringing to us and
- 37:59the video and the audio
- 38:00and all that sort of stuff.
- 38:01And so when you click,
- 38:02when you go to the jeep
- 38:03talk show.com slash voicemail,
- 38:07it will show up as another page.
- 38:09Like there's going to
- 38:10be a pop-up if you will.
- 38:11Yeah, it'll take you to the other site,
- 38:13which is Camflare.
- 38:13To the Camflare site.
- 38:15Yeah, it's kind of this
- 38:16redirect sort of thing.
- 38:17And that's on purpose.
- 38:18It's meant to be there.
- 38:19And so some of you may
- 38:21think, well, no, it's a scam
- 38:22or their link is
- 38:23broken or they got phished
- 38:25or this is something that
- 38:27it's not supposed to be.
- 38:28All good things you should be careful of.
- 38:30Yeah, it's actually really good.
- 38:31Yeah, your gut is
- 38:32telling you good instincts.
- 38:35And so go ahead and
- 38:36install that software.
- 38:37It is safe.
- 38:38It's trusted, all that sort of stuff.
- 38:40And that enables you to send
- 38:42all kinds of video voicemails
- 38:43to us at that point.
- 38:45Tiny little itty bitty app on your phone,
- 38:46not even to know it's there.
- 38:48And then once it doesn't
- 38:49work in the background,
- 38:50anything like that, it only pops up
- 38:52when you are using that link.
- 38:53Right, once you have
- 38:55installed the Camflare app
- 38:57on your phone, and you can do
- 38:59this from a desktop as well,
- 39:00but without having,
- 39:01it's all browser based
- 39:02on the desktop or laptop.
- 39:04But once you've
- 39:05installed the app on your phone,
- 39:06you can do the video voicemails anytime
- 39:08without having to go
- 39:09through that whole rigmarole
- 39:11to record it.
- 39:13And I want to mention really quick,
- 39:14you got an event that
- 39:16you want to publish.
- 39:18You got a company that you
- 39:20want to get free advertising
- 39:21here on the show.
- 39:22Hey, 30 seconds. You got 30 seconds.
- 39:24And I understand if you got a business,
- 39:26you may feel like, well, I can't do this,
- 39:29especially I think we've all--
- 39:30I can.
- 39:31I've got a long
- 39:33history of voiceover work.
- 39:34So if you want to reach
- 39:35out to the Jeep Talks,
- 39:36you want to have Josh
- 39:37voice you a commercial,
- 39:38I can do that.
- 39:40So I don't know, I think
- 39:42we've all experienced this,
- 39:43the going on to a Facebook group,
- 39:45and then you post
- 39:46something that they don't like
- 39:48because it has to do with,
- 39:49even if it's not your business,
- 39:50they don't like to advertise it.
- 39:51Who doesn't want to see my junk?
- 39:53Oh, sorry, we're talking something else.
- 39:55Okay, yeah, keep going.
- 39:56Well, remember, I can blur things out.
- 39:58So really talking to the ladies.
- 40:00Well, it's so small.
- 40:00Talking to the ladies, yeah.
- 40:03But anyway, voicemail, video voicemail,
- 40:05give it a try, we'd like to see from you.
- 40:07And Josh, I was thinking,
- 40:08there's no telling how many people
- 40:10tried doing the video voicemail,
- 40:12figured they were being scammed
- 40:14or that was taking them to a place
- 40:16where it wasn't supposed to go
- 40:17and didn't leave us a video voicemail.
- 40:19So hopefully--
- 40:20Well, hopefully this clears things up
- 40:21and yeah, and yeah, put
- 40:22some people's worries at ease
- 40:24and we'll get some more interaction.
- 40:25I think that'd be kind of cool.
- 40:26Yeah, I think it'd be a lot of fun.
- 40:28And there's no telling what we may see
- 40:30and what we may get.
- 40:31We used to have a lot of fun
- 40:32with the regular voicemail.
- 40:33Nathan from Pittsburgh here.
- 40:35It's been quite a while since I joined
- 40:37any of the roundtable episodes.
- 40:39Just got a little busy there with life
- 40:41and everything going on.
- 40:43So if you're gonna take the opportunity
- 40:44to try out your video
- 40:46voicemail submission here,
- 40:48download the app and
- 40:48we'll give it a shot.
- 40:50Plus, since I've been cleaning out the
- 40:52garage here this week
- 40:53because the garage has
- 40:55gotten completely out of control.
- 40:57Found this nice lock box
- 40:59here from Tuffy Security.
- 41:01Actually want it from you
- 41:02guys almost four years ago,
- 41:04four years ago next month.
- 41:05So, found it buried in my garage.
- 41:08Gonna get her installed.
- 41:09Wanted to say thank you guys
- 41:10and hopefully I can catch you on one
- 41:12of the upcoming roundtables.
- 41:13See you guys there.
- 41:15Oh yeah.
- 41:16All right, Josh.
- 41:16So tell me what you
- 41:17know about trickle charge.
- 41:20I've got about 20 of them at the shop
- 41:22running at any given time.
- 41:24Well, like you've got
- 41:25a Jeep in your garage
- 41:26that is sitting there
- 41:27because it's been damaged.
- 41:28You can't drive it.
- 41:30And you may not be
- 41:31concerned about the battery.
- 41:32I've got an XJ that's been in my garage
- 41:34since I got the Gladiator.
- 41:36And I had it on a trickle charge.
- 41:38And I think the trickle charge,
- 41:39and it was a trickle charger.
- 41:41I think the trickle charger
- 41:42actually killed the battery.
- 41:45Interesting.
- 41:46Yeah, looking, doing some
- 41:47research on it using AI.
- 41:50That can happen if you leave it
- 41:52on trickle charge all the time.
- 41:53Of course it depends
- 41:54on the trickle charge.
- 41:55Depends on the heat in the garage
- 41:58because you could overheat the battery.
- 42:00And it just says it can lower the length
- 42:02of life for the battery.
- 42:04So I came up with the idea
- 42:06because I've got the
- 42:07Amazon Echo thing here
- 42:09and I can schedule stuff.
- 42:10So I put a device, a remote device
- 42:14on the battery trickle charger
- 42:16so I could turn it on and off.
- 42:18And the problem,
- 42:19because instead of schedule,
- 42:20so it turns off for hours
- 42:23and lets everything cool
- 42:24down and so on and so forth.
- 42:25And the problem I was
- 42:27having was the trickle charger,
- 42:29when you turn it off,
- 42:31it feeds off the battery.
- 42:35So it stays, yeah, it stays on
- 42:38because it has voltage from the battery.
- 42:40There are these things called diodes.
- 42:42They're basically
- 42:43electron flow regulators.
- 42:45They'll prevent the electron flow,
- 42:47negative or positive
- 42:48from going through them
- 42:49depending on which way you orient them.
- 42:51And so you can sort of with a small hack
- 42:54and make sure you get the right size
- 42:56with a little diode be able to prevent
- 43:00that backflow voltage
- 43:01coming back through there.
- 43:02So you might be able
- 43:04to modify that yourself
- 43:05and save that from happening.
- 43:06So I have a simpler
- 43:07solution that requires--
- 43:09Buy something that
- 43:10works and doesn't do that.
- 43:11Something that would cost 20 bucks,
- 43:13which is about $5 more
- 43:14than the trickle charger
- 43:15that I had on there,
- 43:17that doesn't power
- 43:18itself from the battery.
- 43:20So it probably has a diode and--
- 43:22I was gonna say, this
- 43:23technology should be built in.
- 43:24Yeah, it has proper electronics in there.
- 43:26And that's one of the
- 43:27reasons why I'm talking about this
- 43:28is because if you did this
- 43:31and you wanted to do
- 43:31something similar to what I'm doing,
- 43:33turn it on and off remotely,
- 43:35you can actually do this and it won't
- 43:37draw the battery down.
- 43:39I'm curious about the
- 43:40turning it on and off
- 43:41and whether or not it
- 43:42went when it gets turned on
- 43:44goes into the right mode
- 43:46because a lot of these
- 43:47things now are so smart,
- 43:48they're too smart for their own good.
- 43:50And so you have to
- 43:50select the battery type
- 43:52and select the voltage and
- 43:53select the time duration.
- 43:55There's 17 things, you got a menu,
- 43:56and then these 10, 10, 10,
- 43:57too many buttons.
- 43:59And one of these things where it's like,
- 44:01well, does it do what it's supposed to do
- 44:04when it's just fed power
- 44:05or do you have to manually turn it on?
- 44:08So this one seems to be very simple.
- 44:10It was a 1999 from Amazon.
- 44:12We'll have a link in the show notes.
- 44:14And I actually went through AI
- 44:17and told it what I was trying to do
- 44:19and give me some
- 44:19suggestions for doing this.
- 44:22Then I read the information on Amazon.
- 44:24But what I bought was
- 44:26a Moto Power MP00206A,
- 44:3012 volt, 1.5 amp,
- 44:32automatic battery charger,
- 44:34battery maintainer for
- 44:35cars, motorcycles, ATVs,
- 44:36blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 44:38And there is no buttons.
- 44:42You turn it on and then it
- 44:45does what it needs to do.
- 44:47My only concern is the other trickle
- 44:52charger that I have,
- 44:54it has a button on it
- 44:55so that you can switch
- 44:56from normal charging to
- 44:59pulse, I think is what it is.
- 45:01So what happens is when
- 45:03the battery gets so low,
- 45:05the trickle charger
- 45:06doesn't really see the battery.
- 45:09So it will not charge it.
- 45:11And then I press the pulse
- 45:13so it pulses voltage to it
- 45:16and it gets it up to a
- 45:17level where I can switch it over
- 45:18to regular charging and
- 45:20then it charges the battery.
- 45:22That is largely due to the
- 45:24problem I'm talking about.
- 45:25I turn off the charger and
- 45:26it draws down the battery.
- 45:28So I'm hoping that this new charger,
- 45:31I won't have that issue.
- 45:33But I'll let you guys
- 45:34know in future episodes
- 45:35if it works out.
- 45:36The next thing I'm gonna do
- 45:37is I'm gonna set a schedule
- 45:39so it turns the charging on.
- 45:42And the thing I learned
- 45:43about the battery getting hot,
- 45:45I'll charge it at night.
- 45:47I'll charge it in the cool of the year.
- 45:50There you go.
- 45:50Or over.
- 45:51It comes on at 12 o'clock at midnight,
- 45:54goes to six in the
- 45:55morning or something like that.
- 45:56That's the best thing I
- 45:57can do to keep that battery
- 45:58going as long as possible.
- 45:59Because the XJ will drive again.
- 46:02I mean, mine's not down.
- 46:03It's just I got, you
- 46:04know, I have to do a button.
- 46:05Mine is though.
- 46:06And by the way, I will drive again.
- 46:08The garage is just a mess.
- 46:09I would have to move
- 46:10tires and all kinds of things
- 46:12just to back the XJ out.
- 46:13It would take me a good 30 minutes
- 46:15and it would be all this crap outside.
- 46:17My Jeep will start right now.
- 46:19I mean, there's nothing
- 46:20wrong with the engine.
- 46:21It just doesn't have a
- 46:21front end on it right now.
- 46:23So yeah, check that out.
- 46:24And I just wanted to mention that
- 46:25because you guys may
- 46:26not know either as far as,
- 46:28if you're trying to
- 46:29trickle charge your battery.
- 46:31I could see that coming
- 46:32from some of the older
- 46:33solid state ones perhaps, but you know,
- 46:36with today's
- 46:37technology and stuff out there,
- 46:38that shouldn't be happening.
- 46:39I would think that that's a,
- 46:41you have a faulty unit there,
- 46:43but you know, who knows?
- 46:44I don't know.
- 46:44Maybe that's just the
- 46:45way they're doing it.
- 46:46I bought another one,
- 46:47the exact same model
- 46:49to put on there.
- 46:50And I mean, I haven't
- 46:51cooked another battery, but yeah.
- 46:55Kind of with the price of batteries.
- 46:56I'm hoping I owe 180 bucks.
- 46:58Good news.
- 46:59I know man, geez.
- 47:00But I'm hoping that this
- 47:01one's okay, but we'll see.
- 47:03But anyway, whatever I do,
- 47:05I think I've got a
- 47:06better charger on it now.
- 47:08Do you have a load tester?
- 47:11I do.
- 47:12It's Bluetooth thing.
- 47:14I don't know if I
- 47:15ever told you about that
- 47:16since you were on the show.
- 47:16Oh, interesting.
- 47:17Bluetooth load tester.
- 47:18Yeah, it's a little
- 47:18thing that you hook up
- 47:20to the battery.
- 47:21It's Bluetooth connection.
- 47:22So you got an app on your phone
- 47:24and it will actually tell you,
- 47:26it has several tests that you can run
- 47:27just with your phone.
- 47:28That's cool.
- 47:29Yeah.
- 47:31Ansel, I think is the name brand.
- 47:33You guys look it up.
- 47:34I don't have information in front of me,
- 47:35but it's very inexpensive.
- 47:37It's like one of those $20 things.
- 47:39I got it on the
- 47:41Gladiator, the TJ and the XJ.
- 47:44And the only problem
- 47:45with it is it's Bluetooth.
- 47:46So I can't check the battery voltage
- 47:48like right here in the office.
- 47:49I need to be close to the garage,
- 47:52close to the driveway.
- 47:53But I can literally see
- 47:54what the battery voltages are.
- 47:56It's a draw, but it's a minimal draw.
- 47:58And it's on there all the time.
- 48:00Well, you're not running it all the time.
- 48:02You're just, I'm gonna
- 48:02run this for 30 seconds
- 48:04to see where things are at.
- 48:05Okay, shut it down.
- 48:06But it tells you the
- 48:06health of the battery.
- 48:08That's neat.
- 48:08I like that.
- 48:09Yeah, well, we've talked
- 48:10about it on the show in the past,
- 48:11but I don't think you
- 48:12were on the episode.
- 48:15Yeah, I think I missed that one.
- 48:16All right, so this is interesting.
- 48:17And Josh, you were excited
- 48:19about this whenever I told you
- 48:20on chat about it.
- 48:21So, we talk about
- 48:23having over 1400 episodes.
- 48:27And I'm on most of them.
- 48:28Yeah, you really are.
- 48:30(laughing) You might wanna listen
- 48:31to some of the old shows.
- 48:33Maybe you've even tried,
- 48:34but with so many
- 48:35choices, where do you start?
- 48:37Josh, where do you start?
- 48:38You start with episode one?
- 48:40Wow, you're gonna be in for a store
- 48:44before you think that episode one is out.
- 48:46Anything like what we
- 48:47got going on right now.
- 48:49How do you feel about listening
- 48:51to episode five times with an episode?
- 48:53That's a tough episode to get through.
- 48:56But hey, man, you know.
- 48:58You gotta start someplace.
- 48:59We got some troopers out
- 49:00there that have got their teeth.
- 49:03They've gotten their wings, as it were.
- 49:06So, yeah, I have listened
- 49:07to a lot of the old episodes.
- 49:08But no, how do we sort through them all?
- 49:10Because I came on,
- 49:12what, around episode 50,
- 49:13give or take, somewhere around there.
- 49:15But I think we found that 43 when I was--
- 49:17Okay, so in the 40s.
- 49:18Yeah, and we're up to
- 49:191,400 some odd episodes now.
- 49:21And so, that's a lot of episodes.
- 49:25A lot of water under the bridge.
- 49:26A lot of growth that the
- 49:27podcast has gone through since then.
- 49:30And so, yeah, what we did
- 49:31then and what we do now,
- 49:33definitely quite different.
- 49:34Different technology,
- 49:35different microphones,
- 49:36different studios,
- 49:37all that kind of stuff.
- 49:38And we talk about
- 49:39different things, kind of,
- 49:41to a certain extent.
- 49:42But yeah, the earlier episodes,
- 49:45very much focused on the XJ stuff.
- 49:47But as we kind of got through
- 49:48and started doing stuff more and more,
- 49:51we expanded and that's
- 49:53when the Jeep Talk Show,
- 49:53you really became, hit
- 49:55its stride, as it were.
- 49:56Yeah, and now you can
- 49:57let the audience decide
- 49:59what are the best
- 50:00episodes for you to start with.
- 50:01No, we can't trust them.
- 50:02No, no, no, no, no, no.
- 50:04We're not letting them decide
- 50:05(beep)
- 50:06Oh, no, no.
- 50:07Who thought of this idea?
- 50:09Wait a minute, I'm gonna
- 50:10backtrack a little bit.
- 50:11I might be taking my
- 50:12support away from this idea.
- 50:13Yeah, so anyway, if you go
- 50:15over to jeeptalkshow.com,
- 50:16you will see up there on the top menu
- 50:19that you can pick most popular.
- 50:22And when you click on most popular,
- 50:25you will see the most
- 50:26popular 50 shows that we've done.
- 50:31And again, rated by you, the listener.
- 50:34The top 50, we've got a list.
- 50:36Ooh, are we cool?
- 50:37Yeah, and the cool thing is,
- 50:39is that it goes from the
- 50:41most number of downloads
- 50:43to the least amount, and
- 50:45they're all in the thousands.
- 50:46So these are like 4,000
- 50:48downloads and these episodes.
- 50:50And some of them are
- 50:51from two or three years ago,
- 50:53some are older.
- 50:53They like me.
- 50:54They really, really like me.
- 50:56So you go there, you
- 50:57pick the most popular,
- 50:58the website will update,
- 50:59and this is mobile or desktop.
- 51:02And so you'll have the top
- 51:0350, and then you can play them.
- 51:05And they say, oh, that's fine,
- 51:07but how am I supposed to remember what
- 51:09episodes I've heard?
- 51:11Because if you use this more than once,
- 51:13so we built in, this is something
- 51:15that was specifically designed for us.
- 51:19So you won't get this on any other show.
- 51:22So it actually will remember
- 51:25what episode you've listened to.
- 51:28So you don't have to fight with,
- 51:31and I don't wanna call it an app because
- 51:32it's on the website.
- 51:34And at least on the Android
- 51:36phone, if you start playing it,
- 51:38it's audio only, and
- 51:40you start playing it,
- 51:42you can turn the
- 51:43screen off on your phone,
- 51:45and it continues to play.
- 51:47God, take that, YouTube.
- 51:49Yeah, so I'm still
- 51:50waiting for the iPhone users
- 51:52to get back with me on the iPhone
- 51:55if the iPhone does the same thing.
- 51:57So anyway, it's really simple.
- 51:58Like I said, go to gtokshow.com,
- 52:00look for most popular on
- 52:02the top menu, pick that,
- 52:04and then you'll be right there.
- 52:05Now, I will give you a shortcut,
- 52:09which you can save as a
- 52:10favorite, or just remember,
- 52:12go to gtokshow.com slash best of.
- 52:16It's a lot shorter than most popular.
- 52:17Oh, that's a good one.
- 52:18That's a good one.
- 52:19So really, it's the best of
- 52:20the "Gee, Pock Show" episode.
- 52:22How easy are we
- 52:22making this for people now?
- 52:24You got to, you gotta spoon feed.
- 52:26We can't get a dollar from you.
- 52:27Good God.
- 52:30I'm gonna come over there
- 52:31and start doing the show
- 52:31in your living room next,
- 52:32still not gonna get a subscriber.
- 52:34We can stand outside your shower.
- 52:38What a great AI video that would be.
- 52:42I can hand you a towel.
- 52:45It'd rag.
- 52:48All right, so we got
- 52:51all kinds of great things
- 52:52going on here on the show.
- 52:54So yeah, hopefully we can
- 52:56get you as a regular listener,
- 52:58subscribe, all that stuff.
- 52:59You know, that
- 53:00everybody says like, subscribe.
- 53:02I hate hearing that.
- 53:04I hate saying it.
- 53:06And everybody's used to saying it now.
- 53:08We got to come up with something more
- 53:11creative and clever.
- 53:13Pimp us out, pimp us out.
- 53:15You start, you know, yeah,
- 53:17that's what you got to do.
- 53:18It could happen.
- 53:19All right, well that's about as much time
- 53:21as we have for tonight.
- 53:22Good Lord, Josh, that was fun.
- 53:23You know, this episode
- 53:25is almost an hour long.
- 53:26We were shooting for 30--
- 53:27Anytime I get into the
- 53:28studio and we connect,
- 53:30yeah, things get out
- 53:31of hand pretty quick.
- 53:33We had a lot to talk about.
- 53:34Yeah, I was shooting for 30 minutes.
- 53:35I'm really excited about this.
- 53:37See how that goes.
- 53:38All right, anyway, I want to
- 53:40roll with the Jeep Talk Show
- 53:41crew, jump on board as a Patreon member.
- 53:44This is a couple bucks
- 53:45you were talking about.
- 53:46It's literally like three bucks.
- 53:48Patreon member, just go to
- 53:50jeeptalkshow.com slash contact
- 53:52and unlock exclusive perks.
- 53:54I didn't mention the bonus
- 53:55content that's coming up.
- 53:56Oh, bonus content.
- 53:58Yeah, we're gonna do the bonus content,
- 54:00which is a hard
- 54:01shackles versus soft shackles.
- 54:04And yes, us bastards
- 54:06are not gonna have it
- 54:07on this free version.
- 54:09You're gonna have to
- 54:09be a member on YouTube
- 54:12or a subscriber on
- 54:14Patreon to be able to hear it.
- 54:16So yeah, we're getting Josh and I.
- 54:17Don't be a cheap Brad bastard.
- 54:19You thought we were done,
- 54:20but we still have to
- 54:20record the bonus part, Josh.
- 54:22Oh no, my eyeballs aren't floating yet.
- 54:24We're good to go.
- 54:26So anyway, be a Patreon member
- 54:27at jeeptalkshow.com slash contact
- 54:29and unlock the
- 54:31exclusive content and perks
- 54:33while helping keep the show on the trail.
- 54:36Give us a boost by dropping
- 54:37a five star rating and review
- 54:39on your favorite podcast app.
- 54:41It helps the whole Jeep community grow.
- 54:44Watching on YouTube, hit
- 54:45that like and subscribe,
- 54:47share, drop a comment, stay connected
- 54:49by following us on social.
- 54:51Yes, and signing up for our newsletter.
- 54:54God, we have a lot of crap.
- 54:56So you never miss the latest news.
- 54:59Jeep news or upcoming events.
- 55:00Got a question or
- 55:01episode idea fired over to us
- 55:03at jeeptalkshow.com slash contact.
- 55:06Thanks for riding along.
- 55:07We will see you on the next adventure.
- 55:08And I'll just mention this.
- 55:10We say, if you got any ideas
- 55:12for stuff we should talk about,
- 55:15that's what we did tonight is
- 55:17we talked about the scrambler
- 55:19and we're getting ready to
- 55:20talk about the hard shackles
- 55:23and the soft shackles.
- 55:24And that was all user requested.
- 55:27So we do listen to you.
- 55:29Yeah, we do listen to
- 55:30you and we are doing it.
- 55:31So we really appreciate it.
- 55:32Oh, and I mentioned reviews.
- 55:35I didn't mention that on
- 55:37the going to jeeptalkshow.com
- 55:39slash best of not only can you listen
- 55:42to the high rated episodes, you can
- 55:45actually leave a review
- 55:47by clicking the stars that are there.
- 55:49There's five stars.
- 55:50So you can give a review
- 55:52and you can type in a comment
- 55:55what you'd like or don't
- 55:56like about the episode.
- 55:57So you can literally leave.
- 55:58Who's this guy making all
- 55:59these voices in the background?
- 56:01I don't like this guy too much.
- 56:02I'm not going to
- 56:03listen to you guys anymore.
- 56:05Oh, good Lord.
- 56:06Five more minutes,
- 56:07actually four more minutes
- 56:08and we got an hour show.
- 56:09All right, guys, thanks a lot.
- 56:10I hope you're enjoying the show.
- 56:11And I'm so glad to
- 56:13have my buddy back here
- 56:14on the show with me.
- 56:15Thanks, Josh.
- 56:16You betcha.
- 56:17You're my friend.
- 56:18You're my new friend.
- 56:19(laughing)
- 56:20Xjtalk.com LLC and the
- 56:23Jeep Talk Show podcast
- 56:24is attended for
- 56:25entertainment purposes only.
- 56:27The views and opinions
- 56:28expressed by the host guests
- 56:29and contributors are their own
- 56:31and do not represent professional advice,
- 56:34endorsements or recommendations.
- 56:35We strongly advise consulting a licensed
- 56:38or certified mechanic or
- 56:39automotive professional
- 56:41for any repairs,
- 56:42modifications or maintenance
- 56:43to your vehicle by listening
- 56:45to or using any information
- 56:47provided on the show, you
- 56:49assume full responsibility
- 56:51for your actions and
- 56:52any resulting consequences
- 56:54including potential
- 56:55risks to safety, property
- 56:56or legal compliance.
- 56:58The Jeep Talk Show and its affiliates
- 57:00disclaim all liability
- 57:01for any damages or losses
- 57:03arising from the
- 57:04application of this content.