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Christy Stutzman: The Spiritual Price Of Political Silence · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Ladies and gentlemen, today's guest, Christy Stutzman is a small business owner, music composer.
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  She's a former teacher and a former state legislator in Indiana.
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  Now she's written for multiple news organizations, including The Washington Times.
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  Yes, the daily signal.
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  And she's a featured opinion writer for The Washington Stand, a great website.
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  I quoted all the time.
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  I cite them.
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  That's by the Family Research Council.
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  She is also wife of a member of Congress, Congress.
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  And she traveled widely on diplomatic delegations.
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  She's been a strong advocate for conservative pro family causes on Capitol Hill.
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  That's one of the reasons we wanted to have her on.
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  And she's got a great brand new book out, which I want to tell you about is the title
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  Got Me, friends.
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  And you know why it's called the spiritual price of political silence.
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  So Christy, welcome to the podcast.
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  Thank you so much for coming on today.
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  Thank you so much for having me.
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  So did I pronounce your last name right?
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  Is it Stutzman or Stutzman?
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  We just say Stutzman, but probably back in Switzerland, it was different.
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  Oh, yeah, I'm sure they pronounced it differently.
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  So before we get into the book and I can't wait, tell us about you and your husband in politics
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  there in Indiana.
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  By the way, friends, I went over to the her Twitter page, her husband, Marlon was endorsed
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  by Jim Jordan, Rand Paul on my goodness.
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  So tell us a little bit about both of your political careers.
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  Well, you know, we never planned on being in politics.
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  And I think that's what the irony is.
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  So I was a teacher and a music composer.
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  I'd been in fine arts all of my life.
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  And my husband was a businessman and agriculture business.
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  And so we were just a young couple.
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  We got married in 2000, started a family in 2001.
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  He had multiple, had two businesses at the time.
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  And I had started a business as well, a resource for fine arts teachers online.
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  And we were just, we had big hopes and plans and dreams for our future.
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  And when 9-11 hit, we were holding a three week old in our arms, thinking what's going
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  to happen and what is his life going to be like.
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  And so what happened was we decided to start getting more involved in our community.
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  We really felt convicted that we weren't really being active like we should have been.
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  So we took our little bundle of joy to meetings, whether it was a commissioners meeting or
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  the local GOP counties meeting or whatever it was, just to see who was in charge in our
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  community and just to make sure that our community wasn't good-hands to something terrible
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  happen.
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  And we wanted to help those who were involved.
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  And one thing leads to another, and when you show up, God shows up, and he opens doors.
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  And my husband was approached about running for state representative at the time.
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  He was 26 years old.
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  And we had a 10 year incumbent who was very well liked, but he was of the opposing party.
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  And so we decided to at least make a run for it and gave it our best shot.
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  We didn't think we would win.
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  And in that first election, he won by 249 votes.
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  So you can't tell me that every vote doesn't count.
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  It really does count, especially on those local level elections and positions.
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  So he served in the state house for eight years.
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  And then he went on to serve in Congress as well for six years and is going to be serving
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  again.
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  And then during his hiatus, he had about probably seven or eight years where he wasn't in
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  elected office.
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  Again, went back to building our businesses.
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  I did the same.
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  I have a theater now and we're producing uplifting wholesome values based entertainment
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  on a Broadway skill level.
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  And so we poured ourselves into that.
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  But I also felt led to run for state representative during that time and served for one term right
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  before COVID hits.
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  And when COVID hit, I had to step down and make sure that our businesses and our employees
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  had a place to go and that they were the doors stayed open.
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  And so I've been doing that ever since.
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  But that's kind of our story.
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  And I really like to share it because it's just an example.
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  It's a very American example of the fact that you don't have to come from a big name
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  family.
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  We're not like Europe where you have to have a Duke or a Lord in front of your name in
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  order to serve in the house of whatever.
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  It is really we the people and we can do it, anyone can do it.
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  And we need more responsible Christian citizens to do the tough thing.
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  Get off the bench and into the game.
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  Run for office, local school boards, local positions, right?
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  I do want to thank you.
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  I was reading a little bit about your bio and you authored some legislation including pro
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  life bills and those protecting women's sports and legislation to protect veterans, monuments
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  and memorials.
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  Before we get into your book, just having to have legislation now to protect veterans
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  memorials from being torn down or a vandalized or whatever or to protect women, young girls
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  and women in sports, something that our great grandparents and our founders took for granted
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  because they didn't see the moral relativism of America coming in their day.
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  Just your thoughts on that on the different battles that you had to face when you were
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  a representative there that maybe generations before, we didn't have to deal with.
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  You know, as I did research and question that myself, where did this come from and how
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  did we get to this craziness and why am I having to author legislation about this?
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  I realized that about a hundred years ago, America was targeted by cultural Marxist.
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  They were in academia.
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  They were in universities, higher learning education and they had tried their utopian ideas
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  of socialism and Marxism in other countries and had realized, and I read this in Antonio
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  Gramsys writing as he was writing from jail, that the next unsuspecting civilization that
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  we tried on, we need to make sure that we target the children, we target education system
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  and they did, they came here and they targeted it.
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  I think what was combined with that was that the church had a split, had a big difference
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  in how they viewed their role in government around the same time.
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  And so there was definitely a crisis point where we didn't, we weren't prepared for what
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  they were bringing to our shores and we were also actually kind of asleep at the wheel
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  when it came to how we're going to approach this.
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  And so you have one part of the church saying, well, politics is ugly, it's not really
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  Christian to be involved.
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  So let's just let the government take care of that and essentially they started handing
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  over the natural responsibilities of the church and communities of faith to the government.
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  And they were relegating what they had been doing for a century before.
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  The other side of the church didn't want anything to do with it.
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  So it was definitely a divide and I think what we realized during that time was as the
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  theory of evolution, as humanism, as Marxism, as atheism came into being in our culture,
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  we found ourselves having to fight these battles and we're actually in a spiritual battle.
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  That's what we're in.
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  It's a clashing of worldviews and I love the title of your show as well.
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  I mean, it matters.
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  And that's what we're fighting right now is a clashing of worldviews and I think we
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  have to be bolder.
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  I think we have to be more armed with facts and information and we have to be secure in
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  what we believe and why we believe it, the essentials, the non what's the word I'm looking
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  for, non debatable, I guess is the word where you're not going to compromise on these things.
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  That's what we need to know and be assured of and then take that into the public arena.
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  Yeah, non-negotiables, what we've seen, I know we want to get to your book, the spiritual
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  price of political silence, but before we do, Christy, give us some insight.
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  A lot of us are sick and tired of Christians, conservatives, Republicans, independents,
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  once they get into office, compromising.
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  I know maybe they have the right intentions, maybe they have good intentions.
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  Well, let's reach across the aisle, work with the left with the left, the Democrats,
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  the demonic Democrat party has taken ground continually and we'll keep giving it to
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  them.
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  We don't give them everything they want, but they're so good at incrementalism, right?
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  They'll take the ground and we compromise and we are sick and tired of that.
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  Just what can you tell us about that to give us some insight or some hope that we can
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  stop this kind of thing?
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  I heard it well described recently by Will Whitt.
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  He was speaking to an event near our house and we were there and he said, you know, it
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  seems like the right, the more conservatives tend to want to be eager to compromise, but
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  if you were to see evil walk in the door, would your first inclination be, let me compromise
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  with that?
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  Yes.
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  If you are facing evil, there is no compromise.
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  You have to stand strong and I think the tendency in Washington D is see, especially, but
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  I've seen this on the state level too, where you get comfortable with being in a position
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  that has a title and you become so identified with that title that you cling to it as if
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  it is part of who you are.
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  One of the best pieces of advice that my husband was given when he was first elected at the
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  age of 26 was just remember this title belongs to the people and someone held this title
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  before you did and someone will hold the title after you do and what you are is a steward
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  of the people's title for a certain amount of time.
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  Don't allow it to become a part of who you are of your person.
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  That's not who God made you to be.
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  You are serving in a position of leadership for a temporary time.
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  What happens when people start identifying with their title as if it is part of who they
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  are and they don't know who they would be if they were not in the elected office, the problem
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  is they become right for compromise.
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  They can be approached by leadership and leadership can say, well, if you don't vote this way, we
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  are going to come after you, we are going to primary you, we are going to take you out and
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  then the person starts being willing to compromise.
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  The other piece of advice we got was put out where you stand on issues from the beginning.
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  I will not compromise on my stand for life.
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  I will not compromise on my stand for free speech and religious expression.
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  I will not compromise on all these things and make it clear so that if a lobbyist wants
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  to try to approach you about any of those subjects, they know it's a lost cause from the
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  beginning.
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  There's no point in talking to you about that.
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  Awesome.
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  I think that's what people have to do and then they will be held accountable by the people
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  that voted them into their position.
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  I think a lot of people, they want to get reelected and they get in office and they want to
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  defy certain battles before they got elected and then they realize, well, I want to be reelected
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  so I don't want to stir the pot so to speak, but anyway, we've got to take a brief pause.
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  I want to give the website friends, it's books by Christy.org, books by Christy.org.
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  You can also find the political, I'm sorry, the spiritual price of political science silence
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  on Amazon as well.
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  And it's been endorsed by Rachel Campos Duffy, Senator Rand Paul, Melissa Odin, David
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  Barton, and many others.
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  So Christy Stutzman is our guest today, author and writer.
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  You can check her out at the Washington Stand.
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  And now let's dive into the book, Christy, the spiritual price of political silence.
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  Interesting.
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  10 years ago, I wrote a book called The Cost of Our Silence.
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  And the subtitle, what was it?
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  The consequences of Christians taking the path of least resistance.
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  So tell us about, you mentioned, I think, before we got on the podcast that you were doing
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  speeches on, you were talking about these issues, you had PowerPoints on them, you were
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  stirring up a lot of people, maybe people who get encouraged and then people who find
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  it said, why don't you write a book, tell us about how this was birthed.
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  So it was really something that was a God thing and I wasn't looking to write a book,
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  but I was speaking about this issue at multiple events and was approached by people for my PowerPoint.
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  They wanted the information that I had there.
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  So I just went to put together a pamphlet and make it look nice.
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  And the publisher approached me about writing the book.
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  I think we're at a, we're not even at a crossroads right now in America, we're at a cliff
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  and we're hanging over the cliff.
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  And so I was, this is my effort to try to be, you know, a voice in the wilderness saying,
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  you know, hey, be careful, we need all hands on deck, we need to link arms.
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  The book is non-denominational, it's non-partisan, I include excerpts from the Republican platform,
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  the Democrat platform, links to the Green Party, the Libertarian Party.
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  So people can see for themselves where the parties stand on different issues.
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  It's also non-denominational.
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  I wanted to bring people together just like in the founding of this country from different
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  faith practices and denominations, but to agree on the basics, on the foundational truths
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  on which this country was founded.
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  And so the first part of the book, I do a refresher course on America's Judeo-Christian
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  founding and the part that really saddens me is that we, as I would say, generation X
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  and younger have been bereft of some of the truths and the facts of our founding in our
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  history books.
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  Yeah.
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  It has been removed.
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  And we no longer learn about some of the providential provisions and miracles that
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  happened at our founding.
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  We've been, you know, kept in the dark about how people of faith were involved from the
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  beginning and how the founders assumed that people of faith would always be involved.
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  And they actually, several of them have written and been quoted as saying, you know, it
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  is reliant on a moral people, this government that we've established.
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  And without that, it's not going to work.
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  So we didn't learn that in school unless we were, you know, homeschooled using a Christian
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  curriculum or something, we weren't taught that.
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  So I wanted a refresher course on that and it really allows you to do even more study,
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  you know, if you want to study wall builders or any of the resources that are out there.
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  And then in the middle part of the book, I go into how do we get to this craziness in
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  our culture where things are just completely off the rails, you know, people are just thinking
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  things that just don't make any sense, even scientifically, not to mention morally.
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  So how did we get here and how was this okay?
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  And so we, I talk about that and how we were targeted and the division in the church.
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  And then at the end, okay, so now that we know all this and we're at the cliff, what do
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  we do?
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  Where do we start?
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  Thank you for putting it that way.
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  We're not heading for the cliff.
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  We're there.
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  Yeah.
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  And that's because we had, I don't know how long it's been.
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  I would say 50 plus years of textbook publishers and others revisionists, rewriting history.
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  You said that at least it's in the description of the book that millions of kids in America
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  are being taught a revisionist history.
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  And that's why I'm thankful that chapter two of the role of faith in America's founding,
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  I'm just going to quote your book, there is no doubt that those who formed the various
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  colonial governments of the original colonies in the early 1600s and those who later formed
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  America's national government in the late 1700s were heavily inspired, influenced, and
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  guided by their dedication and mutual reverence for the traditional Christian faith and the
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  Holy Scriptures.
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  And that kicks off chapter two.
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  And thank you.
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  I'm sure there's so much more in there.
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  But I've heard, I think David Barton and others say, between 92 and 90% roughly of all
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  letters and documents and writings from our founders either acknowledge the God of
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  the Bible or reference the Bible or the Scriptures or the God of heaven in some way.
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  And that's overwhelming.
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  And we're in the 90s.
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  Your thoughts on that before we go on?
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  Yeah.
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  And I think when you talk about the revisionist history that we're dealing with, they do
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  things like they twist the fact that the founders use multiple names for God, a descriptive
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  names for God, as a point to say that they didn't truly believe in God.
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  They were just coming up with different names.
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  Actually, the reason they used so many names for God was because they knew the character
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  of God and how multifaceted he is and how he is something in every walk in every moment
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  of life.
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  God has a role to play.
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  And they knew those roles and they knew his characteristics from studying the Scriptures.
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  So there was a depth of knowledge that were we are lacking actually today.
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  So it is a testimony and a testament to their knowledge of the Scripture, to their knowledge
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  of who God is and how he is involved in the affairs of men, how he is involved in the
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  setting up and taking downs of government.
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  And he is the all in all, but as they wrote about him, they were able to express how they
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  knew him in different situations.
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  And I think it's a beautiful thing.
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  But yeah, I mean, there's definitely a lack of education, you know, with, I would say
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  Gen X and younger of really knowing any of this.
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  So I'm going to mention just some of the contents out of the table of contents and I'm just
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  going to let you talk a little bit about whatever one that you'd like to write now because
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  there's just some great info in here.
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  The faith required for self-governance.
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  I don't do politics who determines American culture, generational lessons and coming threats,
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  the global influence of the American church, a guide to, then there's a quick guide to
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  the legislature and there's others too.
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  I skipped around a little bit, civil civic engagement.
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  So Christy, any one of those, whatever you'd like to share, to give a little insight
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  on what you wrote about.
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  I hear a lot of people say I don't do politics and we're talking, you know, people that
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  you would think vote in primaries, say they just don't do politics.
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  And I think it's something that we really need to come to terms with as Americans because
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  we have a birthright of freedom that is unheard of in the, in the annals of time.
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  Yes.
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  Not to mention other countries.
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  So we have this unbelievable gift of freedom that we've been given, a blessing.
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  But with that blessing comes a huge responsibility.
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  And I think generations previously have understood that we are a beacon of hope, salt and light
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  around the world.
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  I was standing on the Mount of Beatitudes with a guy who told us that he was not religious
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  in any way.
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  He was a citizen of Israel.
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  He was Jewish by birth but not practicing and he's doing a great job leading us and he
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  had us read Matthew 5 on the Mount of Beatitudes and it was quite the moment.
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  And as we finished reading and he said, can you read verses 13 through 16 again?
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  So we read, year the salt of the earth.
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  But if the salt has lost its savor, wherewith shall it be salted, a decent sport good
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  for nothing but to be cast out, be trodden under foot of men, year the light of the world,
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  a city that is set in hill cannot be hid.
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  When we were done, he looked at us and he said, I just want you to know, first of all,
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  I thank you as Americans for being this, for doing what this thing that Jesus said
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  to do.
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  It's all in light.
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  We've seen that and I just want to ask you, please don't stop.
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  If you stop, I don't know who else is going to take your place.
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  So when we say I don't do politics as Americans, I think that is a big mistake.
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  It is ugly.
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  It's never been pretty.
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  I mean, when you look back at the debates on public debates between John Adams and Thomas
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  Jefferson, I mean, it was pretty nasty.
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  When you look at the caricatures that were drawn of Abraham Lincoln, when he was running,
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  awful, awful things.
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  I mean, we wouldn't stand for it today, but it is still nasty.
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  It's still awful.
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  My husband and my aunt for Congress, they spent $8 million of attack ads against him,
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  $3 million of attack ads against him in another race.
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  Why?
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  Because he stood, because he stood strong and because he spoke truth.
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  And yes, it was ugly and it was hard to be able to say, we're going to do this again.
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  We're actually going to do this again.
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  But we have to be part of that dialogue in that conversation.
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  A lot of us complain about, and we talk about, you know, where does the culture start?
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  We complain about the culture, right?
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  So it's Hollywood's fault.
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  It's Washington's fault.
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  And really what I encourage, and this was hard hitting in the book, and I kind of debated,
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  should I say this or not, but I said, you know what, let's just speak the truth.
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  So the truth is culture starts in our hearts.
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  It starts in my heart.
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  So we need to analyze our hearts first and say, what is the culture I'm creating in my
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  heart?
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  Then we need to look at our family, our homes.
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  What culture are we creating in our homes?
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  What are we allowing in our homes?
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  You know, what are we encouraging in our homes?
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  And then as our homes are, you know, the culture of, you know, curiosity of positive, you
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  know, thinking towards the things of God, following God with all of our hearts, staying
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  focused on that, that can reach out into our community, into our schools, into our churches,
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  into our businesses, create the culture around you that you need.
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  I was asked the other day, okay, so Governor DeSantis, you know, just passed this legislation,
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  saying that all the public schools are allowed to have chaplains, which is great, right?
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  And then you have the satanic temple lobbying, you know, to have a chaplain.
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  Yeah.
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  The question was, what do we do?
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  Was that the right thing to do?
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  Yes, it was the right thing to do.
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  You have a governor doing the right thing, but guess whose responsibility it is to shepherd
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  and to make sure that the culture of that school is going in the right direction, it's
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  us.
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  It's me.
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  It's the parents.
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  It's the teachers.
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  It's everybody in that community.
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  We have to do our job.
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  You can't rely on the governor to do everything.
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  We have to do something.
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  You know, we can't complain and say, well, he shouldn't have never done that because now
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  there's no, wait a minute, wait a minute, he did a good job.
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  Now it's up to us.
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  So the culture really is, you know, it's important for us to realize that it is a personal
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  thing.
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  We can't play in Hollywood.
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  And who's paying to watch, you know, the terrible stuff that Hollywood produces?
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  When you look at the numbers, Christians are paying just as much as non-Christians, you
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  know, so it really is a time to look in the mirror and take an assessment and say, okay,
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  who are we?
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  What are we doing?
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  And are we about to lose this gift from God that we have had for these 200 plus years,
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  you know, of our blessing in our country?
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  Yeah, it's sobering seeing the lack of salt and light.
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  And yeah, we need to get the church engaged again.
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  Friends, the book is the spiritual price of political silence.
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  And it's available at booksbychristy.com.
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  Christy and just a minute or less.
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  Do you see any trends or developments in recent years that give you hope for the future
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  of America's political landscape?
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  Because that's hard for me to envision, but you tend to be an optimist, I think, so go
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  ahead.
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  Yes.
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  Yes, I do.
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  I see great hope.
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  My husband was having dinner with Justice Scalia before he passed away.
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  And he asked him, is it too late?
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  And Scalia says, what we need is a spiritual renewal.
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  And I am seeing pockets, a spiritual renewal.
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  I've seen revivals happening on college campuses.
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  I've seen revivals happening in Washington state and California and Texas and Georgia,
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  all over the country.
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  And I think COVID had something to do with that.
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  I think the frog in the boiling water was very comfortable.
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  And all of a sudden, the heat got turned up.
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  And we were, we realized we were about to burn to death.
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  And I think there's a lot of people, especially parents who are waking up and they're ready
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  to take action.
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  And I think that that's going to make a difference.
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  I like that.
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  Perfect timing, too.
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  Yeah.
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  So people are waking up.
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  We need revival.
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  We've seen little bits and pieces.
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  It's pray for more.
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  Thank you so much for your time today.
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  God bless you, sister.
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  Appreciate your being on the podcast.
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  Thank you for having me.
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  Yeah.
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  Great book title, guys.
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  I just love it.
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  I love it.
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  Some of the things that she writes about.
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  So check it out.
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  Again, at her website, books for Christy.
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  I'm sorry, books by Christy.com and then Amazon.
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  God bless you, friends.
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  And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.