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S4 E32: Nervous Energy · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Fifteen decrease.
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  Speaker 2: You can see your breath.
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  Speaker 1: Out in the Lake Effect Bacon tables like guitar would
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  Speaker 1: you Where's would you have to be? And to Ron
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  Speaker 1: Elvis in the lay panchow the members that you need
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  Speaker 1: to know.
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  Speaker 3: I want you out here now, your family, Where's would
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  Speaker 3: you have to be?
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  Speaker 1: Where's would you have be? Welcome into the Nickel City Crew.
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  Speaker 1: I am your host, Rob Crippen. Please like us on
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  Speaker 1: some of your Buffalo Bills and NFL content again today,
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  Speaker 1: and as always, these are my Bill's thoughts set out loud.
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  Speaker 1: It's a vibe so ridiculous. Two story eighty three six,
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  Speaker 1: the show God Can Where's would you want to be?
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get straight to it. Really excited for
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  Speaker 1: tonight's episode. Happy New Year to the nicol City Crew.
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  Speaker 1: Bill's mafia out there.
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  Speaker 2: We really wanted to wish you guys a happy New
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  Speaker 2: Year twenty twenty five. Ringing it in and as I
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  Speaker 2: said on Instagram and Twitter before Christmas, Hopefully twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: five brings us a nice Super Bowl fifty nine run.
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  Speaker 2: I'm starting to get a little bit nervous. I'm starting
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  Speaker 2: to have some of that nervous energy, a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of anxiety.
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  Speaker 1: I think that that's a little.
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  Speaker 2: Bit normal for this time of year when you're invested
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  Speaker 2: the way that I am, and I know so many
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  Speaker 2: of you are as well out there and Bill's Mafia
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  Speaker 2: joining me tonight as always, writing Shotgun co host Adam
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  Speaker 2: truck Repsick. Check him out on Instagram and Twitter at
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  Speaker 2: Adam Repsick, r U p c z yk, holla at
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  Speaker 2: the crew DT. I'm getting a little getting a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get a little bit tight, my collar get a
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  Speaker 2: little hot. I mean, it's about to be real.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, Rob Nickel City, how we doing? Happy New Year? Everybody?
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  Speaker 3: Twenty twenty five? Damn twenty five. We just keep it,
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  Speaker 3: just keeps going up, just keeps going up. But uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, one of the reasons I like the show
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  Speaker 3: that we moved to the Friday, Rob is you know
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  Speaker 3: it's good for the mental you know, through the week.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it gives us time to digest the game
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  Speaker 3: and kind of reset and get excited and roll into
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  Speaker 3: the next week. Uh, you know, in this case, still
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  Speaker 3: basically two weeks away from the playoffs. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm I'm you know, not saying I'm ramping up,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm gonna I'm gonna give it one more week
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  Speaker 3: before I really get into it and get going. And
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  Speaker 3: we'll we'll touch base on that tonight. But another reason,
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  Speaker 3: A Friday gives me. Okay, I'm a week and a
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  Speaker 3: half out of the actual playoffs starting this week. We're
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  Speaker 3: still chilling and we'll go from there.
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  Speaker 1: All right, sounds good.
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  Speaker 2: I as always, you know, I paid the lady at
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  Speaker 2: the front desk and for my Bill's Mafia card. DT's
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  Speaker 2: responsibility is to talk me off the ledge each and
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  Speaker 2: every time.
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  Speaker 1: So but I'm starting to freak out a little bit. Now.
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  Speaker 1: We've got a special guest tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Really excited about it because this guy's been running a
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  Speaker 2: great podcast since twenty seventeen. You guys probably already know
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  Speaker 2: them out there in nicol City Crew and Bill's Mafia.
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  Speaker 2: Nate is running a great site over at Circling the
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  Speaker 2: Wagons Podcast. You can check them out on again Buffalo
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  Speaker 2: fan Base, the official Bill's Mafia podcast network that we
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  Speaker 2: simulcast on. Holla at the crew, Nate, what's good man,
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  Speaker 2: howl at the crew man.
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  Speaker 1: It's good to hook up with you.
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  Speaker 4: Man, dude, this is I'm so psyched that you even
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  Speaker 4: asked me to come on. Man, it's good to finally
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  Speaker 4: hook up with you and DT. When I joined fan Base,
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  Speaker 4: I knew a couple of guys personally, and then like
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  Speaker 4: the more I listen to you guys and watch you
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  Speaker 4: guys and the rest of I mean, a really chill
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  Speaker 4: crew man, a lot of fun, like informed, uh, really
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  Speaker 4: entertaining guys. So I'm happy to be a part of it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm happy that you asked me to come on, and
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  Speaker 4: and uh, I'm excited to talk about this. I know
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  Speaker 4: you're nervous. I know you got some nervous energy going.
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  Speaker 4: I think I think you know we're gonna We're gonna
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  Speaker 4: try to hopefully calm those nerves though a little bit
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  Speaker 4: with our discussion tonight, and I think we can.
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  Speaker 2: I think, all right, well, well DT has tried, and
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  Speaker 2: greater men than him have tried as well, so we'll
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  Speaker 2: see what we can accomplish.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Now as we get into it, you know, it's interesting
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  Speaker 2: because I wanted to get your guys' take on and
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  Speaker 2: I sent you guys show notes as well. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm starting to freak out, just a just a
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  Speaker 2: tad bit. And the reason that I'm starting to freak out,
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  Speaker 2: to be honest with you, is that DT, I want
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  Speaker 2: this so badly, and I know.
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  Speaker 1: That you do.
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  Speaker 2: I know Bill's Mafia does nicol City, cause I know
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  Speaker 2: we all want a parade. We all are in it
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  Speaker 2: for the same thing. But it's a situation where things
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  Speaker 2: are like you know, when you think about the playoffs, DT,
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  Speaker 2: the finality of the postseason, it's just it brings up
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  Speaker 2: like a leve of anxiety, a level of nervousness, a
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  Speaker 2: level of like, oh my god, Like if we don't
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  Speaker 2: get it done, if we have a Houston game, or
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  Speaker 2: if we have a Baltimore game like we did in
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  Speaker 2: the regular season.
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  Speaker 1: Like it could it could be over.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that the finality of it, to me,
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  Speaker 2: DT is what is starting to It's starting to get
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  Speaker 2: my bills census tingling, like kind of like Spider Man,
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  Speaker 2: I'm starting to get tingly because of the fact that,
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  Speaker 2: not that I think we're gonna lose, not that I
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  Speaker 2: don't think we're capable of getting the Super Bowl fifty nine,
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  Speaker 2: just the fact that it's just it's so final, let's
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  Speaker 2: one and done it.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to bring your best on that day.
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  Speaker 2: And if you don't bring your best, you better hope
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  Speaker 2: that your opponent doesn't because you could be sitting at
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  Speaker 2: a long offseason before you could even blink DT.
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  Speaker 3: Well, this is coming kind of later than it usually does, right,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the past couple of years, we've been the
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  Speaker 3: favorite to you know, to win that not even to
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  Speaker 3: win the AFC East, to win the whole AFC, you know,
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  Speaker 3: on multiple occasions, and the pressure has been there, and
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  Speaker 3: last year being at six and six in our playoffs
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  Speaker 3: starting you know, back in November. You know, that pressure
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  Speaker 3: was on a lot earlier in previous years. This year
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  Speaker 3: it was kind of a different vibe, like maybe a
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  Speaker 3: reset year, maybe a rebuild. There's not as high expectations.
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  Speaker 3: We come out, blow all expectations out of the water,
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  Speaker 3: have one of the best seasons, you know, in franchise history,
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  Speaker 3: and now it comes time to survive and advance comes
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  Speaker 3: and that pressure is right back so the pressure was
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  Speaker 3: always coming. Even the only way it wouldn't be is
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  Speaker 3: if we actually had a big reset year and didn't
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  Speaker 3: make the playoffs, or we we snuck in as the
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  Speaker 3: seventh seed and it was all house money.
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  Speaker 1: But it ain't.
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  Speaker 3: This is this is unsoun favorite the MVP behind center.
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  Speaker 3: The pressure will tick back up. So I do agree
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  Speaker 3: with you, Robbie. You know we wanted bad, but the
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  Speaker 3: pressure is here now. It's a little later than he
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  Speaker 3: used to be because we've had such high expectations this year.
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  Speaker 3: We were kind of chilling. Now it's time to get
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  Speaker 3: it gone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know when I think about it, Nate, and I
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  Speaker 2: know that your audience isn't tuned doing as well because
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  Speaker 2: I've heard you speak about, you know, the playoff and
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  Speaker 2: playoff atmosphere. But like it's just a situation where I
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  Speaker 2: look at it as you know, I absolutely agree with
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  Speaker 2: DT that the expectations going into this year were not
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  Speaker 2: that heightened, and I picked us to go ten and seven.
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  Speaker 2: I'm one record with that on Nickel City Crew and
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  Speaker 2: our schedule preview show, and like it's funny because how
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  Speaker 2: quickly things change, and for me, it changed, Nate when
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Bean went out and got Amari Cooper. When he
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  Speaker 2: went out and got him, I thought that there was
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  Speaker 2: a willingness to at least admit that, Okay, everybody eats
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  Speaker 2: is important. It's something that you know, we want to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, find a way to embrace and everybody wants
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  Speaker 2: to do all that thing. And I kind of poop
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  Speaker 2: pooed that entire thing the entire time because I missed
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  Speaker 2: fourteen at the time so much, and I was so
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  Speaker 2: mad about that whole decision. But when he went out
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  Speaker 2: and got AMRII Cooper, I thought that Brandon Bean was
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  Speaker 2: admitting that, you know what, we do need somebody to
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  Speaker 2: draw defenses away. We do need somebody to actually help
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  Speaker 2: out the rest of this Receiver Corps and the tight
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  Speaker 2: End group. And after that point in time, man, we
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  Speaker 2: just started rolling and it just I don't know, man,
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  Speaker 2: the expectations changed, and I even named episode we had
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  Speaker 2: one called Recalibrate. It was time for us to like
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  Speaker 2: recalibrate what we were thinking about this team. Now that
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  Speaker 2: we look at him ate, it's like, man, there's no reason,
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  Speaker 2: there's nothing to standing in the way of this team.
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  Speaker 1: I think we can go to some bowl. Fifth to
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  Speaker 1: night I really do.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think DT hit on it with
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  Speaker 4: the beginning of the season and the expectations of it
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  Speaker 4: because I was I know, a lot of fans, including myself,
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  Speaker 4: to a point where we're thinking, Okay, this could be
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  Speaker 4: a down season for the Buffalo Bills. I know the
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  Speaker 4: national media definitely thought that as I was, though, like
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  Speaker 4: you know, with friends and on the podcast to a point,
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  Speaker 4: you know, trying to convince people to say, this isn't
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  Speaker 4: a nine to eighteen like this is, this has the
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  Speaker 4: potential to be a good team. You could look at
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  Speaker 4: it as one of two ways. They're definitely downgrading by
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  Speaker 4: losing Stefan Diggs, Gabe Davis and some other key veterans,
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  Speaker 4: or they're getting younger and better and they're losing some
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  Speaker 4: of their dead weight. And not that it was completely
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  Speaker 4: dead weight, because there were some great times that Gabe
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  Speaker 4: Davis and Stefan Diggs had with his team. The only
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  Speaker 4: problem is it wasn't towards the end of the season
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  Speaker 4: and it wasn't consistent. So you know, you could look
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  Speaker 4: at it, well, they lost their number one, but maybe
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  Speaker 4: they gained a couple of number twos in the draft
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  Speaker 4: and Shakir stepping up stuff like that, yep, and Coleman
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  Speaker 4: and and so I kind of looked at it as like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: you know, maybe maybe the defense steps up. Maybe you know,
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  Speaker 4: a few things happened, and like you said, the Amari
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  Speaker 4: Cooper trade was huge, and then the way that they've
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  Speaker 4: kind of conducted themselves from here on out.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I just talked about it.
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  Speaker 4: I had Mookie Hawkins in on a Twitter space this
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  Speaker 4: last week and I said, you know, Josh seems different
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  Speaker 4: this season and going into it. There's there's one of
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  Speaker 4: two ways he could have taken it. He could have
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  Speaker 4: looked at it as well, I'm gonna do whatever I
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  Speaker 4: do because it's worked so far, or losing Stefan Diggs,
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  Speaker 4: a known, proven veteran and leader on that team, saying,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I have to be that guy now it's
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  Speaker 4: all on my shoulders. So you can either take the
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  Speaker 4: load or you know, keep doing what you're doing. And
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  Speaker 4: I have a feeling, like I don't know if you've
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  Speaker 4: heard on another podcast like Busting the Boys, where he's like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't really pay attention to what I eat in
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  Speaker 4: the offseason, right like right, not that I'm not judging
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  Speaker 4: I'm not in great shavement, but like, you know, I've
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  Speaker 4: noticed he's coming, you know, five ten pounds maybe more.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's like he's a little chubby or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: He loses it all in the training camp. You know,
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  Speaker 4: when you're twenty seven. She could do that in a
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  Speaker 4: few weeks. But this year he didn't seem that way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah he was.
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  Speaker 5: He was not. I mean, he was he was ready.
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  Speaker 5: He's ready to go.
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  Speaker 4: And I asked Muki, I said, hey, is that is
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  Speaker 4: that just what it seems from the outside, or is
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  Speaker 4: that He's like no, He's like this is this is
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  Speaker 4: the season he's proving people wrong. And and you know
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  Speaker 4: he's always had that mentality, but he's bringing it to
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  Speaker 4: another level and you've seen it. And and yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 4: looking forward to getting into that because I definitely have
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  Speaker 4: some of the.
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  Speaker 5: Anxiety that you do men.
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  Speaker 4: Like when the Bills were in the AFC Championship game,
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't even start to think about the super Bowl
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  Speaker 4: and if they won past it, right because I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: that's awesome, they could go to the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 5: Well what if they lose it?
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  Speaker 4: Like, I don't even want to get to that point, right,
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  Speaker 4: you know, It's sad because at that time I was
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  Speaker 4: so not used to the bills being good that for
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  Speaker 4: for such a long time that I'm like, I'd rather.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know how to handle.
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  Speaker 4: I'd rather deal with the disappointment now than in a
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  Speaker 4: couple of weeks when they're in the super Bowl and lose.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's so such a weird mentality to go through.
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  Speaker 4: But I think I'm finally over that now, So I'm
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  Speaker 4: glad we're talking about it.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Scars of the drought.
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  Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, because it's a real thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's a real thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is it's we talk about it
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  Speaker 3: all the time of nothing nothing's ever are when things
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  Speaker 3: are too good, it's too good to be true. And
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  Speaker 3: when things are bad, you know, we we stink. We
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  Speaker 3: need to level up to expectation. Where the scars of
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  Speaker 3: the drought have made us very unsettled, un you know,
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  Speaker 3: unfulfilled fans. It is you know, it is what it is.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, going off those points of if anything,
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  Speaker 3: get used to the pressure not being don't get used
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  Speaker 3: to the pressure not being there, excuse because it will
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  Speaker 3: always be there now for the rest of one seventh time,
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  Speaker 3: he has proven no matter who's on this ross, we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna be contenders. And just like you said, he plays
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  Speaker 3: it different and he plays with the chip on his shoulder,
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  Speaker 3: but he doesn't play with the chip on the shoulder
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  Speaker 3: like and Aaron Rodgers does. Where you know, I do me.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's out to get me, but I'm gonna keep proving
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  Speaker 3: that I can play like this is I do me
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  Speaker 3: like nobody expects this, but like I'm gonna build this team,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna will this team to victory and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: be the epicenter in nucleus of this team. And so
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  Speaker 3: that's the difference, and I think that's what the key
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  Speaker 3: factor is into there's never not gonna be pressure on
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  Speaker 3: this team anymore because one seven has proved as long
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  Speaker 3: as he's taking the snap, we're con tenders.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's funny because we had even talked about
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  Speaker 2: it back in the summer DT leading into the season
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  Speaker 2: when Tim Graham came up with that little article about
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  Speaker 2: how the Pagoulas kind of wanted a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: a different Josh and and and Nate kind of just
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  Speaker 2: spoke to it, and we had dissected that a little
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  Speaker 2: bit because we were wondering, well, what does that necessarily mean?
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  Speaker 2: You had talked about the golden retriever that he is,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe he's got to step up and be a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more of a pitbull, be a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more of a of an actual force a presence with
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  Speaker 2: fourteen gone.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that he native is right.
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  Speaker 2: He has embraced it, for sure, and if you ask
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  Speaker 2: Mookie Hawkins, obviously he's closer to it than we are.
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  Speaker 2: But it was a situation where I have I have.
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  Speaker 2: I can admit that I have seen a difference in
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen. The real way that I've seen it is
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  Speaker 2: that he still has his handshakes with all his guys.
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  Speaker 2: He's still goofy before games, He's still goofy and that
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  Speaker 2: type of stuff like that. But I've seen more of
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  Speaker 2: a focus in respects to making sure that he's implementing
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  Speaker 2: the offensive way that it's supposed to be ran making
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  Speaker 2: sure that he's holding guys accountable. Now that doesn't mean, yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's necessarily yelling in people's faces like Peyton Manning or
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  Speaker 2: Tom Brady in their prime and.
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  Speaker 1: Stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: That's not really Josh's style and Robin Mundy, Mama Money's
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  Speaker 2: always told them that's not a style. But behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 2: I think that he's earning respect from the guys because
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  Speaker 2: of the fact that he's put in the work. He's
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  Speaker 2: been able to be there at the facility to make
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  Speaker 2: sure that everybody sees that listen, this is important to me.
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  Speaker 2: It's important for us to get to our goals. Our
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  Speaker 2: goals are to get to the super Bowl and obviously
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  Speaker 2: to win it. And I think that's he's shown a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of level of dedication that maybe not have
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  Speaker 2: been there before. DT knows that you don't know what
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  Speaker 2: the inside joke Ry Here or Nicholas city Cruz that
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  Speaker 2: the guy loves the golf. He can tell you the
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  Speaker 2: hundred best golf courses in America and he can recite them.
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  Speaker 1: And that used to worry me a little bit, not because.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want Josh to have a life outside of football,
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  Speaker 2: but because of the fact that how plugged in are
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  Speaker 2: you when it's time to be plugged in? And I
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  Speaker 2: think that that was important to show to the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the team and the rest of the fifty three
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  Speaker 2: that you know, I've got your back. I'm just as
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: committed as you are, I just might go about in
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: a different way.
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: Well, I think, you know, the mentality of I think
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: there's a little bit of weight off their shoulders, oddly
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: enough going into this season, because I think that's kind
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: of what Stefan Diggs was a little bit, especially towards
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: the end, was that not weight around their shoulders, but like, hey,
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: let's not piss off stuff, man, Like you know, that's
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: just kind of like, I don't know if you've ever
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: had a manager or a boss that was a little
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: too micromanaging or a little bit too too much of
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: a a hot yeah, exactly exactly when And and the
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: unselfishness of this team might be something that they're just
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: not used to. And uh and it's and it's freeing.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: I think it frees Josh because he's not like hey,
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: I have to look Stepf's way because or or forcing
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: the ball because he's gonna.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Which wasn't a bad which wasn't a bad option. Though
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: I have to always say that it wasn't a bad
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: option to pass.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Them the ball.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: It wasn't. It wasn't.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: And if you could pass it to him ten times
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: a game and still win, that's fine. But when you're
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: force feeding him and it's it's not working out and
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: he's pissed off and you're losing.
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: I think, I think you know, but but this it's funny.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: Ever since the beginning of the season, they're like everyone eats,
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: everyone eats, right, and they couldn't be they could be
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: more true. The Bills don't have a thousand yard receiver
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: on the team and they're the best offensive team in
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: my lifetime, possibly even more so than the K Gun offense.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: So they just they just broke the record.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: They have now scored more points than any Bills offense
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: in history, including those k Gun off This is behind me.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: So you're absolutely right, Nate.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: It's interesting because you're that's that's a funny way to
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: look at it, because I mean, I know we've talked
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: about it throughout the off season DT and and we
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: talk about weight being lifted and different things like that.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Is that is that legit?
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Because I mean, I I even heard it on g
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: R this morning on Jeremy and Joe talking about, you know,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: like a weight had been lifted and Josh Allen has
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: kind of been playing a different way, and a caller
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: called in, do you feel the same way that Nate does, like,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: have you seen the same thing in respects to a
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: more of a free, a free flowing offense, a more
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: of a free flowing approach by Josh Allen on down
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: because Dion Dawkins always talks about it.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: We start with Josh and then we all follow his lead.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: The sales pitch for buying has changed, you know, it's okay,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: it's the sales pitch has turned from you know, we
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: have to do this, we have to do this. We
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: have to do this too. We're over here doing this.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: If you want to come get in on it, you know,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: come get in like we're we're not gonna We're not
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: gonna push this down your throat. We're gonna let you
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: see how how went and successful and this buying is.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: And the beautiful thing about this team, I think is
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: everybody is on board with that. There's not a single
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: person that needs to be sold hard. You know, it's
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: the proof is in the pudding. Come over here, take
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: a look. If you want in, come in. But just
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: so you know, if you come in, everybody here is
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: with it. So the sales pitch of buying has changed too. More.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you how this works to let me
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: show you how this is.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I'm going to show you. Yeah, I like that. I
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: like that a lot.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Now as we begin to transition tonight, you know, it's
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: interesting because when I look at it, this team, like
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: I said at the top of the show, Fellas is
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: it's well positioned.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I do feel like there's
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: a straight path to New Orleans.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: We talked about it a little bit last week, but
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: I wanted to get into it with you guys tonight
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: before we wrap up. Listen, everybody seems to be healthy.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: They're coming back. Mate. Terrel Bernard was just at practice
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: the other day, so he's like one of the only
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: guys that's still on the injury report. I know DeMar
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Hamlin a few other guys were limited, but it seems
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: like everybody's going to be healthy. When you look at
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the opponents, it looks like it's Denver number one most likely,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: and it's Miami and then followed by Cincinnati, who has
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: an outside chance.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Who would you like to see and why?
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: And the reason I'm asking the question that way because
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, we look at the bracket and how it's
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: going to work out. We'll find out a lot more
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: after that Pittsburgh game tomorrow with the Ravens as well,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: to find out who's going to be the five and
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: the three seed where the case may be. After that,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: it's pretty much it's chalk man. It's either it's Denver, Miami,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: or Cincinnati. And then it's on the road to New Orleans,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: we go who would you prefer to see in that
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: two to seven matchup and why to come to Orchard Park?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Because I've got my opinion for sure, and it's changed
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: over the last week.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: So I guess there's several different ways you can look
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: at this. I've been kind of mulling it over for
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: the last week or so.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Me too, Me too.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Denver's the likeliest. Obviously, they their path is much easier
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: than since he and Miami's. I like that matchup. I
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: want to say that they're my favorite matchup for the
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: that the Bills have faced really good defenses this season
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: and there's still the second highest scoring offense in the
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: entire NFL, so I'm not worried as much about the defense.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Sure it might be, you know, maybe they don't score
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: forty five points this that week, maybe they score you know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: thirty eight or something. I don't know it's not that
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: big of a deal, but I like it mostly because
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Denver is starting a rookie quarterback, a rookie quarterback that's
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: going to be on the road in a hostile environment
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: in a playoff game he's never been to across country. That,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: along with Babbage and McDermott's track record for rookie quarterbacks,
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: I think that this lends a lot in the favor
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: of the Buffalo Bills, especially, like you mentioned, if they're
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: healthy on defense, which is the key BECA And I
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: know we'll go into this a little bit later, but
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: I mean I have special keys, the things that are
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: challenges or could be challenges for the Buffalo Bills to
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: get through to the Super Bowl and win it, and
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: health is one of them. Right now, they're the most
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: healthy they've been since.
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, like the thirteen second game. I
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: think when you were mentioning you thought they might have
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: been able to do it. It's like, yeah, they're thirteen
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: second game. That's one of the reasons they were so
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: healthy that season. But yeah, I mean health is a key.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: So I like that matchup the Dolphins. Obviously if two
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: was not there, I like that matchup. It scares me
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: a little bit. I'm a little bit more hesitant on
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: that one because divisional opponents playing them three times. It
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: was close in Buffalo when they came earlier this season.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Who it wasn't for Tyler Bass's sixty one yard touchdown,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: it might have gone in, or sixty one yard field
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: goal might have gone into overtime. So I don't love
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: the idea of facing a divisional opponent three times, but
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, I still feel confident. I think they would
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: win that one. And then the Bengals is just like
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: they're getting hot at the right time and they're finally healthy.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Their defense is not scary whatsoever. I think the Bells
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: can easily hang, but their offense is potent. It scares
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: me in the fact that you know, you thought about
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: think about that Rams the Bills Rams game where they
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: barely lost that one, right m h. I think that
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: the Rams were playing on an all world level. They're
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: the best they've played.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: All season, right, absolutely by far, and.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: You just don't want that game out of Joe Burrow
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: and Jamar Chase and t Higgins all of a sudden
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: against you and Buffalo. You know, when they're hiding, so
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: we don't play them well we've never played them, Well
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: we haven't. We haven't, But I'm still confident that we
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: could take it, take advantage of that win. I think
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: if we were to play the Bengals, this is the
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: best season to ever do so in the in the playoffs.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: So I'm confident in all three.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: I do like the idea of playing a rookie quarterback,
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: though across country in a hostile environment in Orchard Park.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: I love that.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: I think the defense is gonna They've been doing an
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: amazing job of getting takeaways the last few games, and
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: I think that they would continue that streak against Bonix DT.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Who is your matchup that you like the most?
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Man, I need to know I'll quickly echo that. You know,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: definitely Denver coming in with a rookie quarterback, that's he.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: But they got to defense.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Their defense on on sacks. They lead the NFL in sacks,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: right are they coming? They're coming against Josh Allen, who
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: doesn't so their best, their best trait is probably not
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: gonna be existent in a game where you know you're
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: gonna have to cause some turnovers to win it. So
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I'll opposite. Yeah, the rookie quarterback thing. But I don't
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: think their defense is good. But they're not gonna good
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: against Josh Allen. You can say that obviously about a
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: lot of teams. I'll echo the Miami Dolphins. Fact of
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: we we talk about roulette here a few times on
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: the show, and you know if you go to the
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: table and it's and it's red red, red, red, red,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: red red, one hundred times or fifteen times in a row.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: And Josh Allen, you know, obviously has put the beat
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: down on the Dolphins this whole career. But this wild
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: card week on a season where we really think we
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: have a shot is not the one I want to
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: have the matchup where it goes black and it's a
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: bad game and and it's off. Cincinnati has been putting
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: these you know, rams like games together the last five
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: weeks to get to this point. And the fact of
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: the matter is, if you think you got a chance
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: at the super Bowl, you shouldn't be worried about anybody
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: in the wildcard weekend. So that's where I stan I'll
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: keep that same level. We'll go Denver, Miami, then Cincy,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: but confident with all.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Three interesting I like y'all got some y'all got bravado tonight.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yah.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm bringing the y'all bringing it y'all again, you
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: guys are talking to me off the ledge. I picked
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Miami just because not only the two of injury, but
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: just because two in the cold. And that's quite frankly
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: why I think Sean Payton's a good coach. We saw
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: that last year. Obviously we aided them with twelve men
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: on the field, so it was kind of fool's gold
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: in that respect. But I do respect Sean Peyton's acumen.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: He's obviously developed about Nicks a long way. So I
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: do agree with both of your points. And Nate your
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: point about taking that rookie quarterback cross country, I agree
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: with you there. There's just something about two in the cold.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: He doesn't one to be here, and it just kind
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: of reminds me a little bit of that San Francisco game,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: where again it was clear to see after the first
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: quarter that these motherfuckers do not feel like playing this game.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Let's hurry up and score a couple of touchdowns because.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: They'll check out, and I think we'll get that same
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: type of result against a Dolphins team from South Beach.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: So I'll go with you guys on that.
• 24:11
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• 24:50
  Speaker 2: We got a New Year's date, So this is an
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: abbreviated episode. I wanted to get some thoughts from you guys,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: and you kind of stole my thunder Nate beforehand, because
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: what are the major obstacles. We've tried to talk about
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: it a few times last week DT and I did
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Nate on our last episode, and I labeled it path
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: to New Orleans. Now I'm in a different mindset where
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I'm just nervous. I'm looking for any landmine, what could
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: possibly funck this up? And like, I was thinking about
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: some of the opponents past the first round, and the
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: number one thing that comes to mind is even before
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Kansas City, which we can get to in a minute,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: it's Baltimore.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: And that game perplexed me.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I was on a Twitter space like you were after
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: the last game, and I was talking to the fellas
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: that I talked to in there, and like, I was like, what.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Happened in that damn Baltimore game?
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: And I understand that we were hurt, and I understand
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: that the defense was a little bit banged up.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: And then I know Khlil Shakir got hurt in that
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: game as well.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: That was a thorough ass whooping they And I need
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: you to explain to me what happened and tell me
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: why it won't happen again.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Because Derrick Henry ran through our face. He was not stopped.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Even without that eighty five yard touchdown or whatever it was,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: he still had like one hundred and something yards on
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: the ground. Like twenty something carries. He still had an
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: efficient day. Tell me why that's not gonna happen again.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Because they they do. I will raise my hand. They
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: do make me the most nervous.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: They do.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, if you're going off past experiences.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, think about it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: The Bills haven't beaten them with Derrick Henry, and they
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: looked terrible. That was the worst game of the season.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: The Bills have lost three games overall, and two of
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: them were by five points and less combined. You know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: think about that. It's like so that you look at
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: the one game where they lost handedly, and that was
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: against the Baltimore Ravens, and I think that the way
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: that the game played was perfect into the hands of
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: the offense for the Ravens because at no point could
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: the Bills actually, you know, make Lamar Jackson sit back
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: there and pass the whole time, because Derrick Henry was
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: always a factor. And if you let them get ahead
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: like that, then it could be Dereck Henry taking the
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: ball of sixty yards, it could be Lamar Jackson, it
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: could be the player action pass. I mean, you play
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: perfectly into the Ravens offense. Now, why the Bills couldn't
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: get anything done. I think you nailed part of it
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: was was the injuries. I think that that was one
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: of the games where the Bills realized, we need another
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: wide receiver to take attention, take attention away from Kean
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Coleman and a banged u Khalil Shakir. You know, people
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: aren't afraid enough of Dalton kincaid yet.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Mc collins he had no which is.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: It doesn't say yeah, I think that it's I think
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: the Bills offense is it's still gelling man. I mean,
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: they had one wide receiver that had been catching passes
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: from Josh Allen before the season and they're still I
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: think they're still figuring things out and they're doing a
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: great job. I think that the Bills offense plays a
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: lot better against a Ravens defense as a subpar this season.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: I think that the Bills just they just play a
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: lot better their defense. You know, it is we met health.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: This is the healthiest the defense has been all season.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: You mentioned Treil Bernard showing up on the on the
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: injury report, but I think by by that time, especially
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: if the Bills play the Ravens in with the divisional round,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: I think he'll be ready to then that's a huge deal.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, imagine losing mad Milano and Trell Bernard, your
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: two best linebackers by far Pro Bowl slash All Pro linebackers,
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: and you're going up against Derrick Henry.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: It was not I mean, you have.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: Baile Inspector and Dorian and I love Dorian Williams. He's
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: just not ma Milano yet. I think he's playing a
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: great season.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: I think also one of the reasons that we should
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: be more excited about the playoffs is the defensive tackle
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: play has been much better in the last few weeks,
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: and it was lacking a lot. I mean a point
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: at Oliver a little bit in Daikwon Jones. I think
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: his age is finally starting to show. I think that
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: those guys are stepping up. Dwayne Carter is back, you know,
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: they're using Dwayne's mooth a little bit better. Austin Johnson, like,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: those guys are are making an impact. And you know,
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be the toughest team that
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: the Bills would face in the playoffs, except for you know,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: obviously the Chiefs. The Chiefs would be a tough out
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: no matter what. Even if you do beat them the
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: regular season, but I.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: Think the Bills.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: I think you play that game ten times, and that
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: is one or two times that the Bills ever get
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: blown out by the Ravens. I think that's very unlikely.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I think it was just it was just an off week.
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  Speaker 4: It was a bad game. It just it just didn't
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: turn out well. I don't think that happens again. Just
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: like if you play the Rams, I guarantee they don't
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: beat us, you know, like that more than like once
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: out of ten times.
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  Speaker 5: It's just unlikely.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: You say it was the perfect storm. It was the
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: perfect storm that night.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: I think it was.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: But I think it was a good thing because it
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: helped point out some issues that the Bills were having
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: offensively and defensively, and I think that they've learned from
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: those and I don't think they'll fall into that same
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: thing if they play them again. I mean, you mentioned,
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: you know, who do you want to play in the
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: first round. I love what you said about two because
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: two is zero to eight and the cold. But man,
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: wouldn't this be wouldn't this be a great run for
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: the playoffs headed to the super Bowl? You play Joe
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Burrow in the first round. The Bengals play Lamar Jackson
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: at home beat the Ravens, but then you go to
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: KC and beat the Chiefs in Kansas City.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I know you don't know me that well date, but
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: DT can let you know that I am not about
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: that type of energy.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Man, I don't care. I know you're talking.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: About exercising all the demons and I don't give a damn.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: And I think my mother's listening, so I'm trying not
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: to custom, but I don't give a shit. The reason
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I don't care is because there's no asterisk by the Lombardi,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: so I don't need the hardest road possible to make
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: myself feel better and the parade to be sweeter. I'm
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: still gonna be driving right up to Buffalo right after
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: on victory Monday and getting ready for the parade and
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: beating our Buffalo bills.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I do not care at all about the hardest road.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: But I respect people like you that because I hear
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: a lot of guys like you on Twitter talk about
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: just go through all of their faces on.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: The way to the Lombardy, and I'm like, why would
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: you want to do that?
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Like, I mean, like it would be cool story, But
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: if there's definitely, d T.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: He don't know me that well, d T. I'm not shit,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: no way, I agree.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: And my point was, there's there's uh, we got two
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: opportunities where we won't even you know where you might
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: even even have to play the Ravens, you know, if
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: it's very unlikely they lose this week, but they could
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: and then the next week, you know, if if they
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: match up against the Steelers again, the Steelers got their
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: number and take them down, who knows.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: How does that work?
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: If if Baltimore wins and Pictsburgh loses, then Pittsburgh goes
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: back to.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Baltimore, Pittsburgh will go to the six.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah it'll be three three, okay, yeah, so you know,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: and then Pittsburgh knocks them off in a divisional game
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: and you don't even have to worry about him. So
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I'm obviously not to play them. But I agree. A
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: bad game earlier in the year, and you look at
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: it from the other side, you think the Ravens are
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: gonna be pumped up to play the Bills. You know, yeah,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: we beat them, but then it's almost scarier, like we
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: punched him in the mouth. We know, kind of that's
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: not gonna happen again. I'm a little more scared as
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: a Ravens fan going into this as a bill saying
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: saying it's it's time for get back. The Ravens fans
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: are like, we punched them. They know, we know they're
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: gonna puntch us back.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, I like that. Listen to y'all. Y'all, y'all doing
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: a good job tonight. Talk of me off the ledge.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I like it. I like it very much.
• 32:07
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  Speaker 2: the other stuff and hash whatever the.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Hell else you do. We really appreciate you guys engaging
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: with us in the show.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: DT Nate, you gotta give us what you did last
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: week and how you consume the game, and then obviously,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: since we've got this last game coming up, we'll just
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: go ahead and knock that out as well.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Our guest, Nate, I'll let you go first.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: How did you consume last week's game and what are
• 33:11
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• 33:16
  Speaker 1: How attus Man.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: So, I hate to say this because I'm normally much
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: more glued to the television, but I had family in
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: from out of town from Wisconsin. I was, you know,
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: run around with cousins, nephews, nieces and children, and I
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: was watching as much as I could while trying to
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: entertain at the same time. So my my and I think, thankfully,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: the game wasn't close whatsoever, and I rewatched it later,
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: so I didn't miss much.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Think you did it?
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: So no, I was this this week is going to
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: be a little bit different. It's going to be. I
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: mean it's going to be so easy going. I mean,
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: this is going to be relaxing, you know, I mean
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: season is yeah, exactly exactly pre said. Uh, you know,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna I know that there's gonna be a few
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: starters playing here and there getting some time in. Uh so,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: I mean health is is all I'm gonna be watching there,
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: just make sure there's no freak injury.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: But uh but yeah, that's.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: That's how I'm gonna just you know, taking notes and
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: and kind of watching, you know, the other games to
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: see what's going on with those, to see who the
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Bills are gonna play and there and out. But luckily
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: they can sit and you know, the Bills team in
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: general will be able to sit and watch who they're
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: going to be playing, you know, this next weekend. See
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: it's because they all have to play for something besides
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: the Bills and the Chief. So so that's kind of nice.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: But but no, man I I real quick, I you know,
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: before if we don't get a chance, I know, you
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: got to take your mom out for for for a
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: cool melody too. I got it, by the way, you
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: gotta d m me let me know how that is
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: because I want to catch that. But uh, but but
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: four keys to the super Bowl, then I think you
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: should feel more confident about uh going into it that
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: you that that maybe the Bills haven't had in the past.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: Number one is injuries. I mentioned health.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Bills are the healthiest they've been going into the into
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: the off seat, or into the postseason, which is great.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: The Bills defense, it's been a source of issues.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: The last of the year.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: A little bit leaky, uh in the postseason. I think
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: that's something that it's going to be a key to
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: the Bills making it to the super Bowl and winning.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: If I think that's one of the reasons why the
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Bills lost in the playoffs, I think it is the
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: most important reason why they lost the Chiefs.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: But then again, but they were lose.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: They lost four starters, five starters, you know, so what
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: do you expect?
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: And then the next thing is coaching. Coaching is going
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: to be huge, uh for for this team. I'm more
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: confident in that just because they've been through so much.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: They've only made gee's only a few bone headed coaching
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: decisions all season. I mean, really think about it. I mean,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: there's been a time out here or there. Luckily it
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: didn't end up to biting them.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: But really not that bad, not that bad.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: And then the last I don't like McDermot, but I
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: have to agree.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: You don't have to show.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: And I think the last thing that besides all the
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: things I mentioned is luck. I don't think enough people
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: put put enough credence into luck going into the postseason.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: The Super Bowl run.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Just think about, you know, a blocked punt going for
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: a touchdown, that was the difference between the Bills losing
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: that Rams game and winning it. Something as easy as that,
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: as small as that could happen for against the Bills.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: So Oblong bounces as funny on a fumble, like, you know,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: it's not around basketball.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, How surprised were you when they when they went
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: to that was at Matt mallone fumble and they're like, oh,
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: upon review, it actually is a fumble like the refs
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: called it, you know, Jet's ball.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: You're like, I did not think that they would do that.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Absolutely all those things.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: So so yeah, I mean, I'll be watching the game,
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: you know, fairly comfortably this weekend. But confidently I think
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: that it feels weird to be confident going into the
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: postseason because like like like Tt said, the scars of
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: the drought man, like we've all been there, We've all
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: lived through it. Uh you know, and we're doing We're
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: getting our therapy as much as we can to get
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: through that trauma, trauma, uh, you know, personal trauma. So no, no,
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: I I'm excited for this weekend. Just relaxing and uh
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: and hopefully we see some something out of these uh
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: these backups and getting a chance to get some playing time.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: I'm excited to see some of those guys like Tyrell Shavers.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Last week, How was that?
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, Shavers, DT, what give us
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: the report?
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Man? How was it last week? What are you going
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: to do this week? Yeah? It was? It was great.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Last week. I was the hostess with the mostest you
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: know had friend Ben was in town. He lives out
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: on the West Coast and grew up, was close with
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: his whole family. Everybody wanted to come see seventeen. So
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: I broke her a bunch of tickets. Shout out Insta Kenny,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: shout out to Ben from now, shout out to all
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: our friends usually come to the tailgates. And I was
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: able to kind of broke her tickets out of and
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: get a big crew, and we showed up and we
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: did it right. A little rain to start the tailgate,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: but nothing crazy died out, and you know, it was
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: everybody's first time. I love people's first times. I took
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: my mother earlier in the year to her first game, yep.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: And it's just a fun atmosphere to be in. And
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: we delivered a slow start to the game turned out
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: to be a blowout. Everyone there had a great time.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: It was loud when it needed to be loud. I
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: was doing some antics, you know that to get the
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: people go. I saw you on Instagram. I saw you man.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I able to work, work some things, work some things
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: in and show everybody a good time. So abbreviated, but
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: a way to go this weekend, I'm gonna be chilling
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: straight off grid for multitude of reasons, but U let's
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward. I want I want to get I
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: want to get that fourteen touchdown. That's what I'm gonna
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: be looking for on on Sunday. I want that fourteen
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: player to catch a touchdown. And we're running out of
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: actual pass catchers, so my take is it might be
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: a little left tackle delay pass I'll build a big
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: man tuddy to break that record.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Ooh, I like it. I like it a lot.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: As we wrap up tonight, I like that as we
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: wrap up tonight, I mean DT, Nate, I appreciate you
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: joining us tonight as well. Dated again check came out
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Nate again Circling the Wagons podcast. They've got like over
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: twenty five thousand followers on Twitter. They're blowing up, they're
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: doing the thing. He's been doing this thing since twenty seventeen.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: We really appreciate you taking some time out of here
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: night tonight. So salute to you as well. Man for sure,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: tgif DT. Last week, I mean fellas I was. That
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: was slow motion. All my kings went to Buffalo and
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: then my princesses went to Georgia. There's still not back.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: I have not had a clue what to do with myself.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I've got no idea. I feel like it's like one
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: of those guys say it was like Ricky Bobby, Like
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what to do with my hands,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Like it's one of those situations. So I've been dolo
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: all week and it's been an experience and one thing
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: that I am sure of. Once your dad you may
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: complain about the badass kids, but boy were you missing
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: when the not around? So I really have missed my babies.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: They'll be back tomorrow and Sunday, respectively. So I was
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: chilling last week. I'll be chilling this week. Like Nate said,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: thank god the game wasn't stressful or anything like that,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: and don't have to worry about any of that type
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: of stuff. I expect the same thing. Like I said,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: it's more of a preseason vibe this week. I expect
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: it to be slow motion. Keep everybody healthy is the
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: number one thing. You're absolutely right about that, Nate. Josh Allen,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I guess fella's gonna start the game to get that
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: streak and then get out of there.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know if this obviously they don't care anything
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: about this, but twenty five yards away from his over
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: under prop on the year, I love it.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I love it. Don't you care?
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: DT? Did you put money on that?
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: I'd like to see one five step drop.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: No. If they let Josh Allen move too much, I'm
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: will be mad. Shotgun hand off. You can give the
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: James Cook. I guess if you feel like it, but
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: it better be. It better be quick and out, man.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I want I want the motherfuckers out the game as
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: soon as they check in.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, what was that that one year?
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Uh Matt Castle started the game when it was Rex
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Ryan's first first game. Whatever gets Indy and Tyrod Taylor's
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: that wide receiver, so Matt Castle gets to win for
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: that game.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: That's kind of what this is. Man.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: What about when they we're going to sit against the
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Dolphins a few years ago and Josh drew four touchdowns
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: in the first half.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: I don't want to there, no, no, no, no. We
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: were still playing for something. There was there was some
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: reason he was out there. No, get him out of there.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Let him start the game handed off and let seventeen You.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: Want him to just like take the snap and then
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: just kneel right.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Just kneel or hand it off or somebody said on
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: gr this we got even want him under center so.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: The center can't step on his foot.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I love it, man, and DT you were right as
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: we close up tonight, DT, you were right.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: You saw that report come out a couple of weeks ago.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: From that one dude Palla Sero said Josh's left hand
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: has been broke since week one.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: We knew it. We sat right there, we watched it.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: We were like, man, his hand is broken, and like
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: ever since then, we were just joking around with a
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: couple of fellas and stuff on the show about the
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: glove and stuff like that, but we knew there was
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: something wrong with that hand.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: So it was broken. So look at that. So you
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: were right, DT, you're like an investigative reporter. Man.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I love it. Man, listen, I appreciate you guys in
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: your time tonight. Listen out there, spread love not hate.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: These were my bills thoughts, set out loud, Happy New Year,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Nichol City Crew, happen New Year, Bill's Mafia.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Hit them with a go bills, Nate in with a
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: go bills, DT. That's what we do.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Go bills, Go bills fourteen and three.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I love it.