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Football at Four: Taking Deeper Look at Eagles Passing Game Going Forward · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan is back. Jeff will be in tomorrow. So
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  Speaker 1: a Moser Monday leads over to a Adam Kaplan Monday
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  Speaker 1: here on the Sports Past Live on ninety seven to
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  Speaker 1: three ESPN. And obviously Adam after I think it was
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  Speaker 1: right after we talked on Friday show, the Eagles made
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  Speaker 1: a trade for a wide receiver, Dontavian Wis. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: into that and see what kind of message this is
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  Speaker 1: starting to send for the Philadelphia Eagles. Adam welcome, how
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  Speaker 1: are you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm good, Michael Hope, you're doing well. We know who
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  Speaker 2: the Sixers are going to play, Orlando in the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: so we've got that behind us, and let's get right
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  Speaker 2: to the Wicks trade. So a couple things here. We
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  Speaker 2: did a really cool pot with Greg co sal who
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  Speaker 2: Greg works for us. Everybody knows who he is, and
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  Speaker 2: we did a quick one. It's up on our podcasting platform.
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  Speaker 2: The YouTube version will be up later today. But Greg
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  Speaker 2: breaks him down. He actually I remember we did a
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  Speaker 2: pre Drift show in twenty twenty three and Greg loved
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  Speaker 2: him for that draft come out in versus Virginia. So
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  Speaker 2: here's what I'm told, and I'll throw in something that
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  Speaker 2: Jeff had in our regular pile, which we already put
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  Speaker 2: up all platforms at six am Eastern. But what I
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  Speaker 2: gather on this situation of talking to multiple people, I
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  Speaker 2: trust he just really fits what they want in a
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  Speaker 2: receiver for the future in the system, in the West
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  Speaker 2: Coast system, which is not fast. He ran a four
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  Speaker 2: to six to two at the combine that hurt him.
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  Speaker 2: He fought up his protating too much better four or
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  Speaker 2: five eight, But the tape tells you he's a run
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  Speaker 2: after the catch, good route running, good size receiver, just
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  Speaker 2: under six' to two long, strider good route, runner but
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  Speaker 2: you need to scheme him. Open there's a lot to
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  Speaker 2: like about this. Player some would say he's been given
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  Speaker 2: him a wan up opportunity more than once with The
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  Speaker 2: packers and kind of is. Underachieved hands have to be.
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  Speaker 2: Better ryan happy that he goles to the tenant's coach
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  Speaker 2: obviously was with him as, Well Sean. Mannion that's a big.
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  Speaker 2: Reason But jeff had a really good nugget and this.
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  Speaker 2: Matters it's a player That Hallie rose really. LIKED i
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  Speaker 2: don't know Who jeff talked, to but it's obviously someone
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  Speaker 2: who would have known who probably would have been in
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  Speaker 2: the draft room then when he was drafted twenty. Three
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  Speaker 2: so whatever whoever it may, be whatever Information jeff got,
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  Speaker 2: it that stuff matters to me because we've talked a
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  Speaker 2: lot about it on our nine. Years, howie whether it's the,
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  Speaker 2: draft a, trade or free agents, Signing howie likes to
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  Speaker 2: add players he really really, likes not just likes by.
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  Speaker 2: Scheme there's something they like about this player, Now, mike
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  Speaker 2: it's interesting they've extended his. Contract he has just he's
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  Speaker 2: on A jeff four million this. Season, well he's going
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  Speaker 2: to make twelve and a half in total cash in
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven to your cash total is just over seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: Million that is not backup, money it's not great starter.
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  Speaker 2: Money but that tells you he's going to have a
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  Speaker 2: role right, away.
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  Speaker 1: Right and, obviously you know if Aj brown is not
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  Speaker 1: part of the equation this, season they had Signed Hollywood
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  Speaker 1: brown And Elijah moore and now Don Tavian. Wicks it
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  Speaker 1: almost feels a little bit like The packers where they
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  Speaker 1: had a bunch of guys in that offense out, there
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  Speaker 1: and Obviously smith would be the main guy, here but
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  Speaker 1: do they have enough now that they would feel comfortable
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  Speaker 1: moving on FROM Aj.
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  Speaker 2: Brown all, Right so let's let's look at it two.
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  Speaker 2: Ways then we'll move on to something. Else so If
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  Speaker 2: brown is, here let's look at the reality of he's still.
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  Speaker 2: Here he hasn't been traded, yet and if there's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a, trade it's almost certain to Be june.
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  Speaker 2: Second just you could agree to one doing the, draft
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  Speaker 2: but it won't be official To june and second for cap.
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  Speaker 2: Purposes so you're looking at right now as we, speak
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  Speaker 2: your stars are absolutely Clear brown AND Aj brown that,
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  Speaker 2: is And DeVante. Smith that's not up to debate the.
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  Speaker 2: Three it could Be, wicks it could Be, brown. Okay
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  Speaker 2: and then you've Got Johnny wilson coming up a major knee.
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  Speaker 2: Injury he's only there block, boy did they miss him,
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  Speaker 2: though let's not. Sugarcoat they missed him in the run,
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  Speaker 2: game there's no question about. That and Then Davis cooper
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  Speaker 2: is a great story as an undrafted free. Agent that's that.
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  Speaker 2: There And Elijah, moore who's a slot. Receiver AS z,
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  Speaker 2: receiver he would have vibe time as when they go
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  Speaker 2: eleven personnel as a slot, receiver and also to backup
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  Speaker 2: to back Up DeVante smith if a. J brown is.
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  Speaker 2: Traded you're looking At wits And Hollywood brown Opposite DeVante
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  Speaker 2: smith and almost certain they would look to draft a.
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  Speaker 2: Player it's not a lock they would do. It look
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  Speaker 2: the they'n'll have access to other teams draft. Boards but
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  Speaker 2: as what we said for many, years When eagles had
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  Speaker 2: a plan of drafting a particular, position different, player the
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  Speaker 2: board gets blown up if that guy goes before. Them
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  Speaker 2: you don't reach for one just because you need. One
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  Speaker 2: that's when you make bad. Decisions so that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: it what it will looks like Without, BROWN Aj brown
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  Speaker 2: and with.
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  Speaker 1: Them, yeah well look at The eagles wide receiver depth
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  Speaker 1: now Adding wix to the, room and you know he
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  Speaker 1: knows this. OFFENSE i mean that has to be added
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  Speaker 1: and a big part of this as.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah well now again you say, that, yes it's
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  Speaker 2: A West coast. System he absolutely won't know the. Terminology
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  Speaker 2: they're going to switch to the verbiage system and which
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  Speaker 2: is different from the numbering system the they've been. Running
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  Speaker 2: that takes some, time so they'll know he'll know the.
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  Speaker 2: Language that's very. Important hurts and everyone else has got
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  Speaker 2: to learn. It but again it's what system and they.
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  Speaker 2: Running we know It's West. Coast is it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be mostly. McVey we know they're going to run some.
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  Speaker 2: McVeigh whether it's going to be is it gonna be
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  Speaker 2: fifty to fifty with With, shanahan which is, different he's
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  Speaker 2: more and by the, Way Kyle shanahan uses a fullback
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  Speaker 2: Where sean McVay And Matt lafleur. Do not that we
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  Speaker 2: need to make that. Point so, now Could carson still
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  Speaker 2: be a? Fullback who they signed from The chiefs is
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  Speaker 2: a big athletic player running. Back he's a big. Dude
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  Speaker 2: he's a pretty good. Athlete could he play? Fullback, well it's.
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  Speaker 2: Possible he's six' one and just thirty. Pounds maybe the
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  Speaker 2: he plays That Ben van super role at Fullback Van
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  Speaker 2: sumer and by the, way is a free agent right.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's go back for yet another major. Injury so so,
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  Speaker 2: yeah we've outlined Then Britain, covey by the, way is
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  Speaker 2: still in the roster stoner contract is a plant returning
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  Speaker 2: a backup. Slot Qus watkins And danny Gray Quez Watkins
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  Speaker 2: mike will never go. Away it's.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing, Ah, yes they brought him back THAT i think
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  Speaker 1: people might have slipped that one under the radar, Here
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  Speaker 1: Adam kaplan football at four host of the inside The birds.
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  Speaker 1: POCKET i want to get your. Take let's just hypothetically
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  Speaker 1: say aj was it? Here what is your take On
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  Speaker 1: DeVante as a main, target number one? Guy all?
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  Speaker 2: RIGHT i know that there's certain people with The eagles
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  Speaker 2: think he can be AND i don't doubt. That, look
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  Speaker 2: he's he's been on one a He he to me
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  Speaker 2: is Like Jayalen. Waddle he's we can debate whether he's
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  Speaker 2: a number one targ pass. Target, well you Take brown,
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  Speaker 2: OUT Aj brown, out there are a lot of freed
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  Speaker 2: up past. Targets, well you're gonna divide him with THE
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  Speaker 2: Dn Tavin, Wicks Hollywood brown a potential of a draft.
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  Speaker 2: PICK i, mean there's no question that they would look
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  Speaker 2: to add a. Receiver it doesn't have to be, early
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  Speaker 2: by the. WAY i, now let's not forget we didn't
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  Speaker 2: mention this it in terms of the past, target try
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  Speaker 2: least for this. Season don't forget About Dallas goddard and
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  Speaker 2: the potential of them drafting a tight.
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  Speaker 1: End no question about, that which we've hinted at the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of. Years, right they and they did sign
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of. Guys they got a bunch of guys
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  Speaker 1: in the, room But kakata is. Back they brought a
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  Speaker 1: blocking tight end in as, well but they probably have
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  Speaker 1: to find the guy that is ready to be the
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  Speaker 1: air parent To goddard at some. Point.
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  Speaker 2: True, yeah and, see this is the thing is we
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  Speaker 2: talked about them today's. Show they still have like seven
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  Speaker 2: needs for the. Draft one of the draft is about the.
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  Speaker 2: Future that goes on your point getting so they're fine
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  Speaker 2: for the, season but for the, Future. Mike right, now
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  Speaker 2: they have five tight ends on the, roster only two
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  Speaker 2: of them are under contract pass the, season and none
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  Speaker 2: of them were talking About Jahem bell and E. J.
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  Speaker 2: Jenkins they're holly and likely to make the. Team and
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  Speaker 2: you should Know Stone smart got two hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 2: five thousand fully guaranteed, it so that's it doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: it'll be on the, team but they lucky enough to
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  Speaker 2: probably that he'd be practice squad. Player so there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot going on here with His eagles. Offense and let's
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  Speaker 2: not forget their. Number their biggest need for the, future
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  Speaker 2: mic Is Lane johnson's. Replacement it doesn't mean that they
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't draft a quarterback early or a. Safety we know
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  Speaker 2: that folks were aware they have bad depth on the offensive.
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  Speaker 2: Line they have to address that for the. Future they
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  Speaker 2: have again seven needs for the, future mic in this,
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  Speaker 2: draft but they've got a lot of draft. Picks you
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  Speaker 2: know how he's going to move around a little. Bit
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  Speaker 2: that always. Happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yep Uh so in closing, here you look at all
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  Speaker 1: the wide receiver in the room that they, had they, signed,
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  Speaker 1: wigs they've. Added do they have do they now have
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  Speaker 1: the flexibility in their mind to, say you know, what
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  Speaker 1: we have enough, here let's go ahead and move, on
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  Speaker 1: BECAUSE i think we've discussed this is probably the off
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  Speaker 1: season that they would get the most in return FOR Aj.
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  Speaker 2: Brown. Correct, well, yeah you don't want to, wait because
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  Speaker 2: he'll be thirty Next. June me he's got two good
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  Speaker 2: of the years left in. Him i'm STUN i gotta
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  Speaker 2: be honest with, You. Mike in our, REPORTING i put
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  Speaker 2: this out back in twenty. TWO i believe in twenty
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  Speaker 2: two they didn't practice A J brown On. Wednesdays we're
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  Speaker 2: talking about The. Titans our reporting suggested that there was
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  Speaker 2: he had two. Knees they were concerned about one more
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  Speaker 2: than the. Other they embarrassed. Him they really insulted him
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  Speaker 2: with the offer that they gave, him which is strictly injury.
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  Speaker 2: Related they LOVED Aj brown as a. Person as a,
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  Speaker 2: player he connected with, everyone great football player for, them
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  Speaker 2: but they were worried about the long term longevity of
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  Speaker 2: his knees and one in. Particular but The, eagles this
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  Speaker 2: is this is another great. Trade you gotta give it To.
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  Speaker 2: Howie he was very aggressive With John robinson at the
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  Speaker 2: former general, manager and so ironic he was Fired john
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  Speaker 2: shortly after that. Game remember HE aj went off against
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  Speaker 2: The eagles in twenty twenty. TWO i guess whatever that
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  Speaker 2: was twenty three whenever that Was. Mike so, yeah they're
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  Speaker 2: in really good shape here to do what they what they.
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  Speaker 2: Need can they win without A. J? BROWN i want
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  Speaker 2: to reserve judgment to see a what they get back
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  Speaker 2: in the trade and if it's during the, draft do
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  Speaker 2: they do any if they get competition for this year
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  Speaker 2: instead of next. YEAR i want to see if they
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  Speaker 2: if do they spend a high pick on the receiver.
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  Speaker 1: First that will be a very interesting moment at twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Three if The eagles take a wide, RECEIVER i would
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  Speaker 1: imagine like anarchy will. Happen to everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Guys. Man but but again that would tell you on
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  Speaker 2: your question About, DeVante it's not that they don't think
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  Speaker 2: he could be number. One if there's a receiver they
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  Speaker 2: like and which, then by the, Way wix would definitely
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  Speaker 2: be the. Three he would not. Start there wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: no you would you would expect a twenty three that
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  Speaker 2: guy would start year. One it doesn't always, happen but
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  Speaker 2: you go in thinking he will, start but they would
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  Speaker 2: be set for the. Future and don't forget Again wix's.
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  Speaker 2: Sign they extended his, contract so if he doesn't start year,
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  Speaker 2: one it's not a big.
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  Speaker 1: Deal Adam Kaplan football at. Four check out The inside
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  Speaker 1: The birds. Podcast they go even deeper on The Dontavious
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  Speaker 1: wix deal and what it means for This eagles. Offense
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  Speaker 1: hitting For jeff, today who will be back tomorrow right
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  Speaker 1: here On football at. Four Thanks, Adam thank, you