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Jes Staley Contradicts Jamie Dimon’s Epstein Testimony · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. When it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and people
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  Speaker 1: running for the exits, one of the most interesting battles
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  Speaker 1: has always been at J.P. Morgan, where Jess Daly has
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  Speaker 1: said that Jamie Dimon was aware of Jeffrey Epstein and
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  Speaker 1: knew what kind of man Jeffrey Epstein was. Well, J.P.
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  Speaker 1: Morgan and Jamie Dimon, they have a completely different narrative.
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  Speaker 1: And somewhere in between, is the truth. What that truth is, well,
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  Speaker 1: why don't we dive into this article from the Times
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  Speaker 1: and see if we can get closer to it. Headline,
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  Speaker 1: Jess Daly vs. Jamie Dimon, who is telling the truth
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  Speaker 1: about the Epstein warnings. This article was authored by Josie
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  Speaker 1: and Zor. Jess Daly, a former asset manager at J.P. Morgan,
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  Speaker 1: told Congressional Hearing that he informed the bank's chief executive,
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  Speaker 1: Jamie Dimon, on several occasions about criminal investigations into their client,
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. And look, there's no doubt in my mind
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  Speaker 1: that that happened. Jess Daly wasn't some low-level employee, wasn't
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  Speaker 1: somebody that couldn't reach out to Jamie Dimon whenever he wanted.
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  Speaker 1: So why would anyone think that Jamie Dimon wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: any idea who Jeffrey Epstein was? Now, look, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to sit here and tell you that he knew
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  Speaker 1: what Epstein was doing, like, intimately. But he heard rumors.
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  Speaker 1: I have no doubt about that. And I have no
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  Speaker 1: doubt that the people around him knew exactly what Epstein was.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look at the jokes that these clowns were
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  Speaker 1: making in those email chains. Talking about the monster that
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein was. So in my opinion, both Jess Daly
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  Speaker 1: and Jamie Dimon knew who and what Jeffrey Epstein was. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the extent of the relationship between Jess Staley and Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein was certainly much deeper, at least as we know,
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  Speaker 1: than Epstein and any kind of relationship he might have
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  Speaker 1: had with Jamie Dimon. So all we have to go on, really,
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  Speaker 1: is Jess Staley's word. Meanwhile, with Jess Staley, there's a
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  Speaker 1: mountain of evidence that proves his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: over the years. Staley agreed to testify in front of
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  Speaker 1: the House Oversight Committee after its chairman, James Comer, requested
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  Speaker 1: his appearance. saying that he believes Staley may have information
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  Speaker 1: that would help the inquiry into the U.S. government's handling
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  Speaker 1: of the Epstein case. Now, if that was really what
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  Speaker 1: Comer was looking for, don't you think he'd be going
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  Speaker 1: absolutely berserk over the fact that everybody's names were redacted
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  Speaker 1: as far as the people who were making decisions? If
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  Speaker 1: we're going to hold the government accountable for missteps, then
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  Speaker 1: we have to know who was making those missteps. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the government as an entity. Real people made these decisions.
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  Speaker 1: The question is, Who are these people? Epstein banked with J.P.
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  Speaker 1: Morgan from 1998 until about 2013. During much of that period, Staley, 69,
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  Speaker 1: was the senior executive responsible for the private bank's relationship.
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  Speaker 1: The Times understands that Staley told the committee during testimony
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday that he spoke to Diamond about Epstein on
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  Speaker 1: two occasions, once in 2006 and when Epstein was indicted
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  Speaker 1: in Florida on charges of solicitation of a minor for prostitution.
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  Speaker 1: Minors can't consent, and they can't be prostitutes, but okay.
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  Speaker 1: And another occasion in 2008, when Epstein was serving a
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  Speaker 1: 15-month sentence. It was first reported by Politico. Now, Diamond
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  Speaker 1: denies it. He will take it to the grave. I
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  Speaker 1: had no idea what you're talking about. I had no
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  Speaker 1: idea who Epstein was, what he was doing, and anybody
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  Speaker 1: saying any different is lying to you. But for me,
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  Speaker 1: I find the whole group of these people to be
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  Speaker 1: the biggest liars on earth. And when I say these people,
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  Speaker 1: I mean the financial sector. I don't think they have
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  Speaker 1: a collective truthful bone in their body. In lawsuits brought
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  Speaker 1: against the U.S. biggest bank by the U.S. Virgin Islands,
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  Speaker 1: the home of Epstein's estate, and victims of the late financier,
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  Speaker 1: plaintiffs sought to determine whether Diamond knew about Epstein's activities
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  Speaker 1: or decisions to keep him as a client. And they
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  Speaker 1: even deposed him. He sat for a deposition and claimed
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  Speaker 1: under oath that it was all a big lie. So
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  Speaker 1: both of them can't be telling the truth. Either Jess
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  Speaker 1: Staley's lying, or Jamie Dimon's lying, or they're both lying
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  Speaker 1: in some capacity. Dimon testified under oath that he did
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  Speaker 1: not recall discussing Epstein before his arrest in 2019. He
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  Speaker 1: said he had no involvement in the decision to retain
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  Speaker 1: or eventually terminate Epstein as a client. In a letter
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  Speaker 1: to representatives on the committee this week, a spokesman for
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  Speaker 1: Diamond reiterated, Mr. Diamond testified truthfully under oath. He never
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  Speaker 1: met Epstein, never emailed him, and was not involved in
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  Speaker 1: any decision to have him as a client. Well, the
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  Speaker 1: buck stops with you, right? You're the boss. And if
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  Speaker 1: one of your executives, Jess Staley, is having relations with
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  Speaker 1: girls who were being abused by Jeffrey Epstein and then
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  Speaker 1: emailing them about Snow White and Beauty and the Beast,
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  Speaker 1: I would say that as the boss of the company,
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  Speaker 1: You have some responsibility. Now, not the kind of responsibility, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: of hands-on, but to just act like you have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: Act like, oh, well, I had no idea what my
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  Speaker 1: top guy was doing. I just don't believe it. Now,
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  Speaker 1: does that mean that Jamie Dimon's lying? No. But I
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  Speaker 1: just don't believe it. Sorry. Sorry. Earlier this month, Senator
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  Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren, a member of the Finance Committee, wrote to
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  Speaker 1: Dimon asking for clarification about the bank's relationship with Epstein
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  Speaker 1: and how much the chief executive knew. The letter referenced
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  Speaker 1: published messages between Mandelson and Epstein in which they discussed
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  Speaker 1: the possibility of Dimon calling the then-UK Chancellor Alistair Darling. Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Dimon's phone conversation with government officials, including Alistair Darling during
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  Speaker 1: his time as Chancellor of the exchequer, were routine for
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  Speaker 1: the CEO of a global financial institution. JP Morgan said
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  Speaker 1: in the letter, Those calls concern economic and policy matters
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  Speaker 1: relevant to global banking. The record does not support any
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  Speaker 1: suggestion that those calls were improper or related to Epstein. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. We'll just take your word for it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: JP Morgan is a pillar of truth, right? They've never
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  Speaker 1: been in business with scumbags. Certainly nothing they've ever engaged in, right?
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  Speaker 1: Never mind all the fines, saying otherwise. Staley appeared voluntarily
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  Speaker 1: before the committee in a closed-door hearing and was not
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  Speaker 1: under oath. Members of the committee said they wanted to
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  Speaker 1: bring Staley back through a subpoena, however saying they did
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  Speaker 1: not believe he was being truthful with them. Should have
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  Speaker 1: been there under subpoena in the first place. Oh, let
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  Speaker 1: me have a voluntary sit-down with so-and-so because they're so
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  Speaker 1: truthful and we can just believe everything they say at
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  Speaker 1: face value. Mr. Staley, in our opinion, is flat out lying,
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  Speaker 1: said Robert Garcia, the ranking Democratic member. He's claiming he
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  Speaker 1: had no real friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. That is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: There is documented evidence in the Epstein files of a
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  Speaker 1: decades-long friendship, not just a friendship, but references of being
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  Speaker 1: best friends. He's become an uncredible witness, become he always was.
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  Speaker 1: Like this whole entire dog and pony show is exactly that,
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  Speaker 1: a dog and pony show. And even Julie K. Brown's
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  Speaker 1: catching on now. But for me, I can sniff this
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  Speaker 1: bullshit out right away. You ain't slipping no kangaroo court
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  Speaker 1: by me. Staley has not been criminally charged with facilitating
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  Speaker 1: sex trafficking. Staley has repeatedly denied allegations of wrongdoing in
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  Speaker 1: the friendship. Oh yeah, you know, sleeping with a girl
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  Speaker 1: that was being abused by Epstein and trafficked by him.
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  Speaker 1: No big deal. I didn't know. The former Barclays Bank
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  Speaker 1: Chief Executive developed a close friendship with Epstein. According to
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  Speaker 1: correspondence released by the U.S. Department of Justice earlier this year,
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  Speaker 1: Staley exchanged more than 1,200 emails with him, visited his properties,
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  Speaker 1: and described him as being like family, and he also
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  Speaker 1: paid him a visit in the lockup. Sounds like a
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  Speaker 1: pretty good friend to me. Documents in the files also
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  Speaker 1: indicate that Epstein asked an unnamed woman to purchase a
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  Speaker 1: Snow White costume. Epstein sent Staley a blank email with
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  Speaker 1: an attached photograph of a young woman wearing the costume.
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  Speaker 1: Staley messaged Epstein on July 10th, 2010. That was fun.
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  Speaker 1: Say hi to Snow White. After Epstein had already been
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  Speaker 1: convicted as a child molester. But sure, go on, Jeff Staley.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us some more about how great your judgment is.
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  Speaker 1: Staley is reported to have told the committee on Thursday
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  Speaker 1: that he was unsure who the woman was. Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea. I had her dress up as
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  Speaker 1: Snow White. I did... God knows what to her, but
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea who she is. In 2019, after
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's death, the UK Financial Conduct Authority asked Barclays to
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  Speaker 1: explain Staley's relationship with Epstein. Staley stepped down in 2021
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  Speaker 1: after six years at the British Bank. He was fined £ 1. 1
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  Speaker 1: million and banned from Britain's financial industry for downplaying his
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  Speaker 1: close relationship with Epstein. Well, it was a lot more
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  Speaker 1: than that. And this all happened The first time around.
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  Speaker 1: So like all the people that are showing up now.
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  Speaker 1: And I appreciate it. But all these people were outed
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  Speaker 1: years ago. Les Wexner. Forced to step down. Leon Black.
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  Speaker 1: Forced to step down. Jess Staley. Forced to step down.
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  Speaker 1: And this all happened back in 2019-2020. But then it stalled.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing else came of it. But all those people. Had
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  Speaker 1: to step down from their. Boards. had to take a
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  Speaker 1: step back from their businesses, and that's because they knew
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  Speaker 1: the heat was on. And they thought stepping down would
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  Speaker 1: be the end of it. Well, the files came rolling around.
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  Speaker 1: And guess what? It wasn't the end of it. Patricia Wexler,
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  Speaker 1: a spokeswoman for J.P. Morgan, told Politico of Staley's alleged
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  Speaker 1: discussions with Jamie Dimon about Epstein. No such conversation ever occurred,
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  Speaker 1: and Staley lacks credibility. A UK tribunal found Staley to
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  Speaker 1: be evasive and unreliable. Well, that's true, but let's not
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  Speaker 1: act like that's just a Jess Staley problem. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lack of honesty amongst all these people. Epstein's victims later
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  Speaker 1: sued J.P. Morgan in a civil case over accusations it
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  Speaker 1: knowingly profited from his illicit sex trafficking scheme. The bank,
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  Speaker 1: which paid out $ 375 million across two settlements... then suits
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  Speaker 1: Daley for allegedly covering up information about the late financier
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  Speaker 1: that may have seen him dropped as a client. Instead,
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  Speaker 1: they reached a confidential settlement. It's always a confidential settlement,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it? Always private, always behind the scenes, and out
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  Speaker 1: of the view of mere peasants like you and me.
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  Speaker 1: So I wonder if Congress is going to try and
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  Speaker 1: hold him accountable one way or the other. And if
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  Speaker 1: he was lying about Jamie Dimon, that should be something
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  Speaker 1: that's sanctionable. But if he's telling the truth, then the
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  Speaker 1: question is, when is Jamie Dimon coming to speak before Congress?
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  Speaker 1: All the information that goes with this episode can be
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  Speaker 1: found in the description box.