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Doug Marrone Show: Thursday, October 4 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: This is the Doug Moron Show. The Doug Moron Show.
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  Speaker 1: Former Jaguar Jeff Loghman and J. P. Shadrick discussed the
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  Speaker 1: latest Jaguars news with the head coach. The Doug Moron
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  Speaker 1: Show starts right now. Welcome into The Doug Moron Show,
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  Speaker 1: presented by the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles.
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  Speaker 1: JP Shadrick, Jeff Lockman. That coach, Doug Marone, what's up, coach?
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  Speaker 1: Are you doing great? Week five? Chief sweet second quarter starting?
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  Speaker 1: That's right? Major League Baseball playoffs, the Yankees, Yankees Red Sox.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. There was a homer in the first inning
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  Speaker 1: last night, wasn't there, Aaron Judd? Yeah, they set the
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  Speaker 1: record for most home runs in the season, right they did. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what happens when you get Stanton and Judge on
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  Speaker 1: the same team to go. Dan hit one last night.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't Stanton play and he did? Yeah? Two years he
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  Speaker 1: was nineteen years old over here. Yeah, I remember watching
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  Speaker 1: him one time. Big kit. Yeah, large human being for sure. Um,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of large human beings for the Jaguars. Going
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  Speaker 1: to face the Chiefs this week start of the second
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  Speaker 1: quarter of the season. You always break it down that way,
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  Speaker 1: and the quarter is difficult. Couple of road games, division
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  Speaker 1: game here, going to London to face the World Champions.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is looking at it on paper, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: it's a it's a tough quarter coming up, but you
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  Speaker 1: gotta take it one bite at a time, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: We just you know, we try to look at it
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  Speaker 1: really one day at a time. So whatever the day
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  Speaker 1: calls for. You know, today was you know, a third
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  Speaker 1: down day and some red zone today, and that's you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, uh, that's what we concentrate on and then
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  Speaker 1: just focus on on day to day of the things
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  Speaker 1: that we're going to be able to do that you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can give us the results that we want on Sunday. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: if you're concentrating today on third down Chiefs or third
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  Speaker 1: in the National Football League, red zone, their second in
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  Speaker 1: the National Football League, tough day, they're good now in
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  Speaker 1: those categories, they are, you know, and I give them
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  Speaker 1: a lot of credit. They do a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: to give you. Um, you know, it's just difficult to defend.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, we're up there also,
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  Speaker 1: you know in those categories defensively, So it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a great challenge for us, and um, you know it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be you know, a lot of it will be
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  Speaker 1: a lot of schematics meaning you know, the right call
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  Speaker 1: against the right call or you know, you know they
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  Speaker 1: get the right call versus you know, one of our calls. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and then it's a matter of the players going out
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  Speaker 1: there and executing. When you look at the Chief's offensive
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  Speaker 1: game plan last year they had Mattnegie who was the
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  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. This year, Eric b Enemy, who was a
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  Speaker 1: hell of a running back by the way in his era,
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  Speaker 1: is now the offensive coordinator. But Andy reives handprints are
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  Speaker 1: all over that offense. What makes him so so good
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  Speaker 1: of of a of a game planner or scheme guy
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  Speaker 1: on offense, I think it's a lot of it's, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the the ability of the players that you have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and playing to the strengths of the players. I think
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  Speaker 1: that you know, having you know, coached against coach Reid
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  Speaker 1: for a long period of time, whether it be Philly,
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  Speaker 1: whether it be Kansas City, Um, you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: he takes those players and puts them in the best situation.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be multiple in his personnel groups, and I think
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  Speaker 1: he does a great job at the quarterback, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and knowing where to go. You know, they've always been
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  Speaker 1: able to run the football. And you know, I just
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  Speaker 1: think about when um when he was at Philly and
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  Speaker 1: it had Westbrook as a running back. He was probably
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  Speaker 1: one of the best screener screen running backs that I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen. And you know, I know and in my
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  Speaker 1: history as as far as offense, you know, we studied
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  Speaker 1: that quite a bit. And then you know, you look
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  Speaker 1: to see now and you look at a guy like
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  Speaker 1: Terry Kill and what he's done from him. He's taking
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  Speaker 1: a guy that's been obviously an outstanding special teams player,
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  Speaker 1: but also you know has has has thrown him in
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  Speaker 1: that offense, whether it be jet sweeps, where it be
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  Speaker 1: vertical routes, post routes, streaks, goes. You know, a lot
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  Speaker 1: going on. And you know a lot of people talk about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Terry Kill and obviously with Jason Kelsey and
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  Speaker 1: you know, Kamar was a guy or excuse me, Hunt
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  Speaker 1: was a guy that that obviously led the league in
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  Speaker 1: Russian a year ago, you know, but no one talks
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  Speaker 1: about you know, Sammy Watkins. You know who's a who's
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  Speaker 1: another uh, you know, excellent playmaker there and I think
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  Speaker 1: that you know, they have a very good offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, when you look from you know, the
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  Speaker 1: eleven players that they put on the field, Uh, they're
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  Speaker 1: very productive. They have uh unique skill sets and I
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  Speaker 1: think that coach read and the offensive staff does a
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  Speaker 1: great job of using those set those skill sets. And
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  Speaker 1: coach Reid has quite a history with quarterbacks as you
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  Speaker 1: have mentioned there too. I mean you go back to
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  Speaker 1: McNabb and his time and Philly there and even before that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, over the years, he's always had really good
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  Speaker 1: quarterback play out of his system. You know, it seems
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  Speaker 1: like is that any Reid thing, is that a quarterback thing?
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  Speaker 1: Is that the accombination of both what is it? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I mean, a coach re Cancer,
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  Speaker 1: I know that you know, I know that that position
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  Speaker 1: is always gonna be coached well you know, and he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be decisive and he's gonna know what to do.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, now it's just a matter of what
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  Speaker 1: that player skill set is. It goes all the way
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  Speaker 1: back to you know, by Farve looking at their offensive
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  Speaker 1: line when you look at him as as individual offensive players.
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  Speaker 1: This I think this is always A sign of a
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  Speaker 1: really good coach and also a good offensive line is
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  Speaker 1: that when you look at him individually, you don't go wow,
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  Speaker 1: but you look at him as a whole, you go wow.
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  Speaker 1: You know. So that's what I'm saying is I think
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  Speaker 1: that collectively their talent is better than if you added
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  Speaker 1: it up individually. And uh. And I think that's a
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  Speaker 1: compliment to Andy Reid in his staff because Mitch Morris
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  Speaker 1: and Andrew Wiley and Eric Fisher who was the first
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  Speaker 1: overall picking the draft years back, Mitchell Schwartz who just
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  Speaker 1: started as a hundred hundred consecutive game, and they have
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  Speaker 1: a doctor at right guard. That's a good group. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I think you know Andy Hextield line coach down there,
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  Speaker 1: and you know he's he's been around for a while,
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  Speaker 1: obviously an ex player, and and I think I think
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  Speaker 1: he does a good job, you know, bringing those guys together.
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  Speaker 1: And I think you're exactly right. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you have five guys out there and they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: play as five individuals, you're never gonna be as good
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  Speaker 1: as five guys going out there and playing as one.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, those guys have have a good chemistry
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  Speaker 1: there you know, they're a team that's you know, for
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  Speaker 1: lack of a better term, they're they're a hot team
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  Speaker 1: right now. They got a hot hand, you know, offensively,
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  Speaker 1: and um, you know they're gonna be at home. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a a tough environment. And you know, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, I you know, our team is we we
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  Speaker 1: understand what we're going into and you know, we know
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  Speaker 1: that we've gotta we gotta match that intensity. When you
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  Speaker 1: when you look at the quarterback Patrick Mahomes, and there's
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  Speaker 1: so many different things that you can look at as
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  Speaker 1: far as numbers, wives and and is there anything that
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  Speaker 1: he or that anybody would consider as him not doing well?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, is there any category even if somebody works
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  Speaker 1: to say, you know what I'm reaching here, but you
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  Speaker 1: know he's not as good in this particular category. Is
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  Speaker 1: there anything I mean, know, not not that as showing
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  Speaker 1: on tape so far. I think that you know, we
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  Speaker 1: we feel like we have a good plan going in
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  Speaker 1: if we can execute it, if some some things we
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  Speaker 1: want to see and and think that we can you know,
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  Speaker 1: do a better job than maybe some of the teams
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  Speaker 1: in the past that they've played. But you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: he's shown that he can hurt you in a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different ways. I'm curious about Monday night, right you
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  Speaker 1: you have an opponent coming up, Um, do you watch
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  Speaker 1: Monday night football? Or do you wait to watch the tape?
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I think what you do. You're
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  Speaker 1: most of us were usually working, you know, on the plan,
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  Speaker 1: looking at the past, you know, a couple of games
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  Speaker 1: and the cut ups of what we have, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: we got the game on, you know, so it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of like back and forth as you're going, and you
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  Speaker 1: know you're seeing if there's you know, really um some
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  Speaker 1: similarity to what you've been looking at, you know you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna see it, you know, the next morning. And then obviously, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the injury situation. You know, if guys are gonna be
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  Speaker 1: able to come back or they're gonna be out. You know,
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  Speaker 1: those are the things you try to get a good
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  Speaker 1: feel for right away. The tight end Kelsey boy, he's
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  Speaker 1: a he's a dynamic threat. You go cup with two
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  Speaker 1: games this year, he's already been over a hundred yards receiving,
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  Speaker 1: and he's adequate blocker. Uh, he's a dangerous weapon as well.
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  Speaker 1: That I think that's probably the most difficult thing is that,
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  Speaker 1: Andy Reid, when you talk about how he takes advantage
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  Speaker 1: of the player's skill set, would you say all of
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  Speaker 1: the player's skill set, You mean all of them. I
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  Speaker 1: mean whether it be Kelsey or a backup tight end
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  Speaker 1: or the full back Anthony Sherman. I think he does
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  Speaker 1: a really good job of spreading that ball. Oh absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: I think, like you said, it's it's it's everyone, and
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  Speaker 1: they want to use a lot of people they wanted,
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  Speaker 1: they they've always have, you know, a lot of personnel groups,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people that are involved. Um, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of shifting, a lot of motioning that there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot going on, you know, pre snap, you know, for
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  Speaker 1: this team. But you know, Travis Kelsey, he's you know,
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  Speaker 1: obviously I agree, you know, obviously he's listed as a
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  Speaker 1: tight end, but he plays more like a wide receiver.
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  Speaker 1: And um, you know, he's another guy that once he
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  Speaker 1: receives a football in the field, you know, the run
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  Speaker 1: after the catch is something I think, you know, probably
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  Speaker 1: he's not spoken about enough of how good of a
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  Speaker 1: job he does in that one. We'll come back in
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  Speaker 1: just a moment. Flipping around and discussed his Chiefs defense
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  Speaker 1: against the Jaguars offense. Also a little later, we'll hear
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  Speaker 1: We're back with the head coach, Doug maron The Doug
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  Speaker 1: And the Jaguars offense. You came out Wednesday and said
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  Speaker 1: right away, hey, let no Leonard for not not available
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  Speaker 1: this week, and so the offense can just can put
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  Speaker 1: that aside and focus on the game plan without him.
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  Speaker 1: And that's I think not that that was kind of
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. Is he gonna play? Is
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  Speaker 1: he not gonna play? It was a question maybe not internally,
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  Speaker 1: but externally it was. Now it's just a focus for
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  Speaker 1: what's out there on your offensive side of the ball, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think I think that's a true statement. I think
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  Speaker 1: that you know, last week we felt good and he
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  Speaker 1: came back, and you know, it felt it wasn't that good.
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  Speaker 1: During in the game, you know, just felt it poor
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  Speaker 1: whatever the words are, so, you know, and then this
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  Speaker 1: week obviously it's we're not trying to fool anyone, to
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  Speaker 1: trick anyone, and you know he's not playing, and and
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  Speaker 1: now we're just getting ready to play. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: focus is is, uh, you know, on the guys that
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  Speaker 1: we have available, well, the guys that you do have
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  Speaker 1: available t J. A couple of weeks ago, when when
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  Speaker 1: you watched them run you could see that he's still
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  Speaker 1: kind of fighting through an ankle injury. This past week
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  Speaker 1: a little bit better. Do you expect that trend to
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  Speaker 1: kind of continue with him, because I mean he's he's
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  Speaker 1: your next man up, so to speak. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what do you like as a coach when
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  Speaker 1: you get up there, when you know it's like this
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  Speaker 1: radio show. Do you get up there and go, you know, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 1: we're really banged up. You know, TJ is banged up,
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  Speaker 1: the lines banged up. No one really cares, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so you just gotta go out there and play, and
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  Speaker 1: we're doing the best we can to get those players,
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  Speaker 1: you know, as healthy as possible, you know, to the
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  Speaker 1: game on Sunday and that's always a big challenge, you know,
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  Speaker 1: during the week because you know, it's it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: my philosophy is it's it's very difficult not to practice
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  Speaker 1: and be able to go out there and perform, you know,
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  Speaker 1: at a high level, especially against a very good football team.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, we've been managing you know, a lot
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  Speaker 1: during the week, but you know, it's the NFL and
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  Speaker 1: that's what happens with a lot of teams. Well, it's
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  Speaker 1: speaking of of managing it. On game day, boy, I
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  Speaker 1: thought two guys that played pretty well. Tyler Shatley came
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  Speaker 1: in and relief for for Brandon Lender with his back injury,
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  Speaker 1: and Josh Wells had been in the lineup obviously with
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  Speaker 1: the injury to Cam Robinson, but I thought Cam. I
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  Speaker 1: thought that Josh Wells played really well this past week,
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  Speaker 1: arguably his best game. Yeah. I mean, I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: a guy that's really put in a lot of hard work, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know from the time that since I've been here,
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  Speaker 1: and really has developed his game. And you know, I like,
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  Speaker 1: someone asked me a question during a week, well, how
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  Speaker 1: did Josh Wells play? I said, did you mentioned it?
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  Speaker 1: Did anyone say anything about it? Mentioned his name during
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  Speaker 1: the game and they said no. I said, well, that's
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  Speaker 1: usually a good sign, you know, if you're an offensive lineman.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the same for Shat, I think he'd like
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  Speaker 1: to have that, you know, that that one snap back.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what happened when the ball
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  Speaker 1: was been able to come up, but you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: always done a good job. And it's always someone that
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  Speaker 1: we always felt we can win with that center um
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  Speaker 1: and someone that's you know, potentially as a you know
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  Speaker 1: I I view I look at at Chadows, the guy
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  Speaker 1: that can start in this league for a lot of teams.
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  Speaker 1: The front seven for the Kansas City Chiefs, We'll start
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  Speaker 1: with the outside linebackers that the rushers here justin Houston
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  Speaker 1: has went at it for a long time in this league.
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  Speaker 1: Eighth year player out of Georgia d Ford, another SEC
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  Speaker 1: guy from Auburn. He's on the injury report this week
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  Speaker 1: with a groin issue, but he's gotten home a lot
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  Speaker 1: this year. Three sacks for each of those guys. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's hit the quarterback about nine times. D Ford
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  Speaker 1: has what do these guys do well? And and and
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  Speaker 1: the set up for this defense in Kansas City Houston.
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  Speaker 1: Houston is really uh a vetteran rusher, meaning that you know,
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  Speaker 1: he can low you to sleep and then he'll turn
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  Speaker 1: it on. I think he's really good when he gets
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  Speaker 1: closer to quarterback as far as strip sacks things of
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  Speaker 1: that nature. He had a lot of good moves and
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  Speaker 1: his arsenal so you know, and very good coming back
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  Speaker 1: with counters where they think for you know, has excellent speed,
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  Speaker 1: excellent snap anticipation. Um can really get you off the spot,
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: can put you in a bad position and run around
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: you and beaching and and get to the quarterback in
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: the same way. I think both guys do a good
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: job of getting the hands in there. I think also
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: with those two guys the flexibility of them lining up
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: on either side is probably a nice as they a problem,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: but a nice thing to be able to do when
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: you're Bob's up in their defensive coordinator, because Justin Houston
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: can rush from the left or the right and d
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Ford can rush from the left or right. Now put
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: whoever they think it's the better, then the better matchup
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: on on the personnel the opponent. I guess yeah. I
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: think it's always it's always a little bit tougher for
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: you know, offensive lineman. I always thought it's it's easier,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: you know, if you've got to go out there and
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: there's one player that you you're gonna play against the
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: whole game, and you know, you can look at all
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: the film and you can get a good plan, and
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: you know, but when you're seeing multiple players or like
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: you said, people at switch sides, and you know, it's
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: almost double the work during the week to make sure
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: you're watching them, to make sure how you you know,
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: how how does your game defend them? You know what
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: move am I trying to take away? And you know,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: like I've always taught is, you know, try to make
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: those defenders beat you with their their worst move, take
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: away their best move, take away their best counter, you know,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: and forced them to beat you with with you know,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: something further down the line in their arsenal when look
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: at the linebackers, Reggie Ragland, don't ask JP about him,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Doug will say he's the greatest linebacker that Alabama's ever had.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: And uh, but Anthony Hitchens they got in a trade
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: from the Dallas Cowboys. That kind of wraps up their
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: front seven. The back end though, Eric Berry, who I
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: think is the best safety in football when he's healthy,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: which hasn't been very often in recent years. But how
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: are they in the back end this Kansas City Chiefs
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: defense because there is no Eric Berry playing now. They
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: traded Peters off to the Rams, and it's a much
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: different secondary than in years past. Yeah, I think, you know,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, like I said, oh, we say defensively,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: people look at them and say, well, they rank this,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: they rank that, you know, and and there in the
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: back end of the rankings. But the four oh and
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: people are gonna say, well, they just scored a lot
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: of points. And I understand, you know how people can
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: say that and you get into that. It's kind of
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: like a bar stool conversation or a barstool argument, you know.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: But for me what jumps out is, you know, they're
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: they're gonna make you execute to move the football. Uh.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: They're also gonna make you, uh convert their downs, which
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: I think that's the key. You know. Obviously, you can
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: say what you want about their defense, but out of
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: all the defenses in the league, their number one on
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: third down at twenty three point eight percent, I believe
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: holding teams. So you know, what it tells me is
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: people are. You know, you've got to do a good
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: job in first and second down and put yourself in
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: manageable situations. Especially against a team like Kansas City. You
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: want to be able to stay on the field to
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: keep their offense off the field. And I think that's
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: what the challenges. And you know, they'll they'll play zone,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: they'll play man, they'll mix it up pretty good. And
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know, you just
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: gotta you know, with the pass rushers, you've gotta be
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: able to hold him back and you know, hopefully you
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: get enough time to get the ball that pushed the
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: ball down the field. We've had all this talk about
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and the return game for the Chiefs. We
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: don't know all that. He's got four career touchdowns and
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: all that. Who's the best punt returner you've seen in
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: the NFL? Devin Hester easy easy, easy, slam, dunk, slam dunk.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Don't kick it to him? That was the Ovid Devon
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: ever ever great player. Could he get? Could Tyreek be
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: at some point surpass him? He's on his way. I
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: think he can. He's up there, you know, with with
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: with with tester guy that can change the game. The
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: guy that is has uh, you know, really no fear
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: at all. But when you see him like that that clip,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: we're there. When he catches that ball and he starts
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: losing ground, he can circle the field fasten than anyone.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: And then when he gets up in the open, you're
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: in trouble. If he gets himself in space, no one's
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to tackle him. Um, he's one heck
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: of a football player. He's very instinctive as a good
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: feel and obviously as outstanding speed. Have you ever seen
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: what was reported or the scouting report or the draft
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: report on how fast is he has his timed forty
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: yard dash? Because I know that some guys that that
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: time fast from what their numbers are at the combine,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: and then you watch the game film and they don't
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: look that fast. And then you see other guys that
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: maybe didn't time as well, and then you watch the
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: game film they're incredibly fast. Because when you watch the film,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: there's no doubt he's probably the fastest guy on the field.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: It might be the quickest guy in the field too. Yeah,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I think he came when he
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: came out. I wasn't a head coach, so I don't
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: think I was able to get that information or look
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: at that stuff. But I don't know what the time was,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: but I'm sure it was fast. We'll return in just
• 19:51
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  Speaker 1: Right now, he's playing better than any quarterbacks ever played.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a you know, an m v P quarterback.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: You know what the question is what he can't do?
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. I mean, I don't think
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: words can really put um in perspective. Um, how great
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: he's playing. I mean, that's really all it is to it,
• 22:41
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• 22:49
  Speaker 1: what did you say that the greatest ever? Is that?
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: What you said the start of that something like that?
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: He's playing at the highest level. That weren't you listening?
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Or what? You're the guy to play the tape? It's
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: a good point, but you you you you praise this guy?
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Is that obviously he's playing well, fourteen touchdowns, no other receptions.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: How much of that is praising the opponent and seeing
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: what they're doing on tape? How much of it is
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: poking your defense a little bit? Do you have to
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: do do you have to do that with your defense
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: or no? Or they just show up and play. No.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I was asked a question. I mean I gave him
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: an honest answer. I mean, can you name the last
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: quarterback and first four starts at through fourteen touchdown with
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: no one deceptions? The only one that is comparable was
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: the only I mean, the only one that was comparable
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: is Peyton Manning. But they're not talking about his rookie year.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: They're talking about one of Peyton Manning's veteran career. I mean,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: when when people ask you about it, I mean, how
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: what what are you supposed to say? You know, and
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: he's and he's got he's got all the tools. I mean,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: so um, No, I don't know. I try to answer,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: you know, people ask a question, I try to give him,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: you know, straight answer, and I don't. I don't try to.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: The one thing I've learned as a coach is you
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: never want to message your team through the media. So
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I would know I would never do that. I would
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: never I would never do If I had something to
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: say to the defense, I'd go into the defensive meeting
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: and I tell him myself, Yeah, I don't think you
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: need to tell your defense a whole lot. Yeah, I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: think they're ready to roll. I do like I do, like,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: you know, getting after them a little bit at a
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: little pride. Everybody. Everybody responds differently to that though. I mean,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: there are certain guys that you know that you can come,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you can tweak a little bit, and certain guys you
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: just don't want to tweet because it has kind of
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the opposite effect. Yeah, I'm not not Yeah, not the
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: defense though I say that, I kind of like, you know,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I gotta be careful because I always tell them I
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: go now, I said that, now you're gonna get a penalty, right,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: you know me? So I always gotta watch what I say.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: But I got you know, the thing is, it's you know,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: we're we We've got you know, all three phases our team.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: We're very competitive. You know. Obviously there's a lot of
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: talk about you know, this this team that we're playing
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: this week, it's going to be a hustile environment. You
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and we know what we're getting themselves into. And a
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: lot of us that have been here in the past
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: know that. Um, you know, we tried to switch it around,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and we tried to you know, thriving that type of atmosphere.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Did did you ever get an opportunity to experience Kansas
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: City with Neil Smith, Derk Thomas, Marty Schottenheimer and kind
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: of in that era and when it was just going crazy.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Coach Hackett went to high school there. His dad was
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator during those years where they were like
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: fourteen and two in Montana, Marcus Allen all those players,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: and then, um, you know, we were coming in. I
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: think when coach Vermial was there, we were playing them.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I was at the Jets. We went there opening day
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and we you know, we had a good team. They
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: had a good team and they I've never seen an
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: offense like that. You know, um All Sanders was the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: offensive offensive coordinator. You know, Willie Rove, Priest Holmes, um,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: you know, the guard that went into the Hall of Fame.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I mean it was just unbelievable. Yeah, you're talking about
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: from Nebraska. He had a funky stance. Man was he good?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: You know John Alt was there. I mean they were
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: that was that was a scary team. And you know,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: once it starts going there, it's hard to switch that momentum.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: So you know, we've got to do a good job
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: of you know, trying to hold onto the football, you know,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: take the crowd out of it, you know, kind of
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: all those cliches that you hear, you know, but you
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: actually have to go out there and do it on
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the field. Best Yankees Red Sox memory for you not
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: it's not even close. Bucky Dan come back. They were
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: down on eight nine games at one point or something.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: That was unbelieable comeback that year. There was an article
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the other day, we might be interested in it. There
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: was a newspaper strike during that and there was none
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: of the regular beat writers for the Yankees were at
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: the stadium covering the team, and they were the ones
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: that would always start the stuff between the manager and
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: the players, and it well, they weren't there so they
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: could just focus on baseball and rally back. I'd love
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: to get the links. Pretty interesting stuff. But another Yankees
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Red Sox series coming up? How much will you watch?
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I'll leave a tape it that. I got a problem
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Friday night because I got a high school game. I'm
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: gonna bring my ampad but with me and we'll make
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: sure I'm watching it. Um. I really don't miss um,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: you know, a game. I never missed a score, obviously,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, whether they're playing on the West Coast or not,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to do that. But you know, it's
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit better at it than I was before.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I remember when I was at the Jets and it
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: was a Yankee Red Sox back then. You know, herm
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Edwards was always concerned. He said, I don't know if
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: my line coach are gonna make it jouring a week,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: you know what this series going on, because it's really
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the only thing that I'm truly a fan of. I mean,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not I don't like. I don't not that I
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: don't like. I appreciate sports, but I don't cheer for anyone.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I cheer for the Yankees. I'm a fan of the Yankees,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and I'm a fan of Syracuse basketball. Football is different
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: because you're not a fan of Syracuse football. No, Like,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not a fan like because it's football, So I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't yeah, just now, I'm a hoop
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: fan Syracuse. Alright, So your your memories what the Yankees
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: are obviously going back to night and one of the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: things that way before that, one of the memories that
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I always had about the New York Yankees was how
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: much strife there was between the owner and the and
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the manager. It just seemed endless every year. Who was
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: the is or was the greatest manager for the Yankees?
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Whoa you go back to the days of the fifties
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and everyone, you know, But I wasn't around. Man, I
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: think you're ye for me. I mean, I love I
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: love Billy Martin. I mean I love them. I mean
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: he got after it now, but I liked I really
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: like Joe Torrey from a standpoint of someone that can
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: manage big name, big money players, which I think is
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: a lot more difficult than people think, and keep a
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: team together and keep a team fighting. So and I
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: would say, growing up, I like the you know, as
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: a kid, so I like the toughness of you know,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I love George Steinbrand, I love Billy when those guys
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: would go at it. You know, I could you could
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: just picture what the room was like. And then as
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I got older and I became a coach, and I
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: appreciate it, you know, Joe Torrey with the way he
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: was able to motivate his players, the way he dealt
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: with the media and things of that nature. You know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I just remember growing up. I mean I was always
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: you know, it's with my number one sport is baseball.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: It's my my favorite sport and um throwing up. I
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: always wanted to be a baseball player, and I always
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: wanted to play a Yankee stadium. And I was fortunate
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: enough to UH coach too uh Pinstripe Bowls, which are
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: played in Yankee Stadium, which you know, there were games there,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: you know, in the years, but then they just started
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: playing him again. And probably the greatest moment at least
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: for me, outside of anything to do with my family,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: you know, my wife and kids, was when I was
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: uh had to accept the trophy at the field and
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: when you speak, you know, the echo in the stadium
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: and all I I really was in almost in tears
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: because all I kept think about with Luke Garrick speech today, Yeah,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you know, and it was it was. It's just an amazing,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: amazing place when when I grew up as a kid,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins trained and lived very close to my
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: hometown of Sterling, Virginia, and so as a kid, we
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: had one of the first Naulist fitness centers ever in
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: America in Sterling Park. And so this was back in
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: the area when football players didn't train year round and
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: what did other things? Took other jobs, worked out where
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: they could, and then got back together for training camp.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: So I had a lot of exposure to the Washington
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Redskins as a kid. And I remember his kid watching
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Joe thismand be the two time club racquetball champion and
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and other guys, you know, and it was just he
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: was there when my dad worked out. So as a
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: as a kid growing up in New York, did you
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: ever have you know, any experience or come in contact
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: with the Yankee baseball players that you just cove it
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: to this day and it was such a positive experience
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: for you. Well, when I was my grandfather worked there
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: for twenty five years and my so my it's my
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: mother's dad, So my mother was kind of raised at
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium. So we had a bunch of memorabilia, you know,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: baseball bats. We had a ton of autographed baseballs, which
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: when I was probably seven or eight, I screwed up
• 31:13
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• 32:07
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  Speaker 1: As always, appreciate it. Thank you for having me head.
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  Speaker 1: What's the deal? So interesting stuff, man, it's always funny.
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  Speaker 1: You worked in baseball for ten years before that. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't watched a lot of baseball this year. Yeah,
• 36:37
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  Speaker 1: Big ball game coming up in Kansas City, and a
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• 37:39
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  Speaker 1: The Patriots matt matchup was was big because it was
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• 38:04
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  Speaker 1: first half hour each at every week all this matchup.
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  Speaker 1: This week we're talking the Chief's offense and the Jaguars defense.
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  Speaker 1: But at least it's it's my humble opinion that the
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  Speaker 1: game is gonna be won by the Jaguars offense against
• 41:36
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  Speaker 1: some parts, but this is where this is where the
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  Speaker 1: and it's interesting to listen to Doug Morone. He keeps
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: kind of pointing out the one statistic that is positive
• 41:50
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  Speaker 1: number one in the National Football League, and they're holding
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: teams to conversion rate. But besides that, there's nothing to
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: point to that's positive with the Kansas City Chiefs defense
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: other than d Ford and justin Houston. How much of that, though,
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  Speaker 1: is it's the total yard and just how much of
• 42:14
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• 42:16
  Speaker 1: teams playing catch up. Is there some of that behind it?
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I think I think some of that is some of that,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: but uh not a personnel wise, they're not very good
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: in the back end, and that's why they made a
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: personnel move this week, trying to get better, and they've
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: got their fingers crossed that Eric Berry can get back
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: and help them out. That's why they use draft capital
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: on their secondary, which is still not at an effective level.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, the back end of this football team is
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: not very good and they give up have given up
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  Speaker 1: fo one yards of offensive game. Think about that for
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: a minute that, I mean, did a lot of work
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: to get over five hundred. Last week the Jaguars ret
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: as a defense, they're giving up to fifth nine, so
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I think I mean to fifty nine. Okay, number one
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: in the league, thirty second and almost double, which is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: And the other percentages red zone twenty nine in the
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: National Football League, eighty three touchdowns allowed. That's not good.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: So as as much as you'd like to point to
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: one number, which is third down percentage, which is good
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: for the Kansas Chiefs, the rest of it is not
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: very good. So that I expect the Jaguars to have success.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think the personnel is very good, the interior guys,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: and I know you love your guy Reggie Ragland from Alabama,
• 43:45
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• 43:47
  Speaker 1: bel I guess the run and all that. He is
• 43:50
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  Speaker 1: down linebacker, and he's a good one, don't get me wrong.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: But he's not a third chase somebody down and there
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: other backer they stole from the Dallas Cowboys and Hitchens
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: and he's not a great player, you know. So it's
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: a it's an opportunity in a week that the Jaguars
• 44:10
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• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they have to continue to get
• 44:16
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• 44:20
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• 44:23
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• 44:27
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• 44:45
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  Speaker 1: better and well, I think the expectation was because they
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  Speaker 1: have a backup quarterback that they should win. But they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't do enough to win the ball game. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't deserve to win. Well, all right, um her mind
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  Speaker 1: kill speed. Yes, he's a fast when his at his
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  Speaker 1: handle is at cheetah on Twitter fitting at a Nike
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  Speaker 1: Spark camp, he ran a four to five. That's fast.
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  Speaker 1: And he was clocked also in a Chiefs Broncos game.
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  Speaker 1: Because I've read somewhere that Dante Moncrief where was he
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  Speaker 1: what was he clocked at this past game on the
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  Speaker 1: touchdown because it was one of the two fastest times
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  Speaker 1: in the National Football League. I read that somewhere. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill was timed or I guess they put them
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  Speaker 1: on one of those uh radar guns, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: the radar guns, Yes, for like speeding or scouting exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And he was timed at running twenty two point seven
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  Speaker 1: seven miles per hour in a game against the Broncos,
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  Speaker 1: which is incredibly fast. That's a much faster than I
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: can run. I can say it again, twenty two point
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  Speaker 1: seven seven miles. That's about what Leonard was in the
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  Speaker 1: Steelers regular season game last year in the ninety yard.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm curious. I'm trying to think of how
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  Speaker 1: fast fast year? And then how fast did Dante moncreef?
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  Speaker 1: How fast was he timed out? Because it was one
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: of the two fastest times in in the NFL this
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  Speaker 1: past over this year. And I don't know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know who. I don't know who does that. Do they
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  Speaker 1: have somebody that travels to every game with a radar
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  Speaker 1: gun and just shoots people. You can do the distance
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  Speaker 1: and the time it takes on the stopwatch and do
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  Speaker 1: some math and figure out how fast. I'm not either.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's a there's a there's a formula
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  Speaker 1: you can you know, do that. By the way, I
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: remember a Corey Grant had a four point to eight
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  Speaker 1: forty on a four three forty a protay at Auburn, Okay,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: four to eight. Think about that. But Grant, who we
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: think is blinding fast and has extremely extremely high track speed.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: But we're talking about Tyree Hill, who's even faster than that.
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  Speaker 1: John Ross, who was the first round pick a year ago.
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  Speaker 1: I believe of these Cincinnati Bengals broke the combine record
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  Speaker 1: with a four to two. So we're talking pushing a
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: combine record here. You know, that's four to five four
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  Speaker 1: two two. There's not much difference between that. No, No,
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  Speaker 1: it's all fast to me. And the impression thing about
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Tyreek cool is that a lot of times when when
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: you look at like a John Ross or Corey Grab, okay,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Corey Grab, what do you think of when you think
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: of Corey Grant? Does he have a lot of shake,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of change the direction line speed? Yet pretty
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: much straight line speed doesn't have a lot of that
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: that quick change direction kicking on some of that, right,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: John Ross hasn't really shown any kind of change of
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: direction speed. But when you think of Tyreek kilt, do
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: you think of straight line blinding speed but also quick
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: change of direction can stop on a dime. I mean,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: he has it all. He has it all, and he's
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: a smaller player, man, he has it all. Dean Sanders
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  Speaker 1: forty time four point to seven, by the way, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: which at that time I believe that Deon Sanders was
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: that was close to a record, and there was the
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: legend of Bo Jackson running a four one three and
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: all that it never happened. It never happened. Pretty darn fast.
• 53:19
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is it. I mean, this is a
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• 58:03
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• 58:06
  Speaker 1: John Dorsey because he's the one that orchestrated the trade
• 58:11
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• 58:15
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• 58:21
  Speaker 1: get fired or leaves after you just drafted what is
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: expected to be a franchise quarterback? Isn't that strange because
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: nothing ever really came out after that as to why
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: the Andy Reid and John Dorsey dynamic didn't work or
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: wasn't working, and they then they kick has to do
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: mebe with the whole Alex Smith, whether Home is gonna
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: play or not, I don't know. That's what I don't
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: what I don't understand because typically if you're a general
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: manager and you draft Patrick Mahomes, much like Griggs and
• 58:56
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• 59:01
  Speaker 1: and that pass only goes so far, as we saw
• 59:03
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• 59:07
  Speaker 1: What nice Colts shot there? Um? What what's the score
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: on Sunday? I'm thinking twenty three twenty Jags win team
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: somewhere in that range, and a lot of people were
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: expecting more points. I just don't I just don't see it.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: You know, the Jaguars offense can sometimes have a hard
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: time fun points and Jaguars defense is gonna make it
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: tough on Kansas City to fine points. I like I said,
• 59:31
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  Speaker 1: W win by one W, win by the necessary one point.
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