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- 0:01Speaker 1: It is Monday, November twenty fifth. This is Jetwars Happy Hour,
- 0:10Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours, brought to you by Jet Home Loans
- 0:14Speaker 1: and now a guy who believes turkeys are grown on
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- 0:24Speaker 2: Took me a minute. I got it now, Well come
- 0:26Speaker 2: in its Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday, November twenty.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Fifth, coming out of the bye week, presented by Jet
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- 0:38Speaker 3: two hours ahead. The bye week is in the rear
- 0:42Speaker 3: view now and we'll see about the adjustments for the
- 0:45Speaker 3: Jaguars in the stretch run. What do Tony and Pete
- 0:49Speaker 3: have in mind? We'll get to that coming up. We'll
- 0:51Speaker 3: keep it real as always, fanatics, fan questions, and a
- 0:55Speaker 3: bonus segment of Around the National Football League this week
- 0:59Speaker 3: two for the price of one. Okay, that's coming up.
- 1:04Speaker 3: That's Tony Boselli, Prisco, CBS Sports senior writer joining us
- 1:08Speaker 3: as well.
- 1:10Speaker 2: Well. Happy by the week, Tony, you look rested and refreshed.
- 1:13Speaker 2: I am. Also. Pete is just worn ragged. They don't
- 1:16Speaker 2: give him a week off.
- 1:18Speaker 4: They don't get me any time off. You kidding me.
- 1:20Speaker 4: It's just a grind, you know that.
- 1:22Speaker 5: What'd you guys do? What you did? You relax?
- 1:24Speaker 2: Yeah? I actually uh hung out. Friday was nice. I
- 1:29Speaker 2: was by myself at the house.
- 1:32Speaker 5: Wow. The family, well, no, but you know when.
- 1:35Speaker 2: You have you have a full house all the time,
- 1:37Speaker 2: it's every once in a while. Because my wife and
- 1:40Speaker 2: my daughter had high school cheer five hours away playoffs,
- 1:44Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not going so by myself, ate some food.
- 1:49Speaker 2: I was in bed early. It was glorious Saturday. I
- 1:54Speaker 2: had to get up early, went to senior day at
- 1:56Speaker 2: the swamp. My daughter, Alexis is a cheerleader, captain cheerlead team.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Senior watched the Florida Old Miss Game, Great Football Game,
- 2:04Speaker 2: Great game, Great Football game. And then Sunday got up,
- 2:09Speaker 2: watched a little church and went played golf. Missed the
- 2:13Speaker 2: missed the one o'clock games, which I was just fine with.
- 2:15Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, I'm good. I'll be honest.
- 2:17Speaker 5: It was a bad schedule.
- 2:19Speaker 2: It was pete and I said, this is the perfect
- 2:21Speaker 2: bye week to have this schedule. I'll just go play golf.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Come back. I was looking more forward to the four
- 2:28Speaker 2: o'clock I was hoping that Niner Green Bay game would
- 2:31Speaker 2: be good. That was a terrible game, and so then
- 2:34Speaker 2: I settled in for the night game and that was
- 2:36Speaker 2: only good for you know, two and a half quarters.
- 2:39Speaker 2: But you got to see Sakon go off again, So
- 2:42Speaker 2: it was great. It was very very.
- 2:44Speaker 5: Very lucky, and JP bolted the Alabama did.
- 2:48Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of days back in Birmingham for a
- 2:50Speaker 3: few days. Never a bad thing, catching up with some folks.
- 2:53Speaker 5: Were you in Birmingham when Alabama season ended?
- 2:55Speaker 2: It was not good? Things aren't well and Central Alabama
- 3:00Speaker 2: these days, you know it's not over yet, Pete, because
- 3:03Speaker 2: there's so much it's over. It's so over for them.
- 3:07Speaker 2: I'm just telling you right now, you could beat them
- 3:09Speaker 2: this week. There are so many like two and three
- 3:13Speaker 2: lost teams, Like, there's nobody that's great this year. Maybe
- 3:16Speaker 2: well where.
- 3:17Speaker 5: You know where it isn't over, fellas in Tempe.
- 3:22Speaker 2: Do you think you had a chance for the playoff?
- 3:25Speaker 4: Oh if they if they beat Arizona this week, they're
- 3:28Speaker 4: in the there unless some weird thing happens, they're in
- 3:31Speaker 4: the Big twelve championship game.
- 3:33Speaker 3: This would be the all timer. It'd be what it
- 3:35Speaker 3: would take for Arizona State to actually win a twelve
- 3:38Speaker 3: team playoff expanded, they backdoor into a conference championship game,
- 3:42Speaker 3: win it, go to the thing, and then be happy forever.
- 3:45Speaker 2: I'm going to say this, They're not going to win
- 3:47Speaker 2: the whole thing. They're not good enough. No, but I
- 3:50Speaker 2: hope Arizona State does get in one. Pete's my friend.
- 3:55Speaker 2: I'll be cheering for them. They're not in the Pac twelve,
- 3:57Speaker 2: they're not a competition with the USC. USC's not me anyways,
- 4:00Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, and I think it'd be good to
- 4:02Speaker 2: have a school like Arizona State in there.
- 4:05Speaker 5: I mean, look, they were picked sixteenth in the conference.
- 4:09Speaker 5: They would pick last in the conference.
- 4:11Speaker 4: Think about that last and they're playing. All they have
- 4:14Speaker 4: to do is go to Arizona and win. Arizona's not
- 4:16Speaker 4: very good now. In the past, It's happened before, way
- 4:19Speaker 4: back in the day, they had chances to go to
- 4:21Speaker 4: the Rose Bowl for the first time in Arizona beat
- 4:23Speaker 4: them a couple of times at Arizona, So it's happened before.
- 4:26Speaker 5: But all I gotta do if they win, they're in.
- 4:29Speaker 4: The Big Twolf champions win that, then they'd be in
- 4:32Speaker 4: the playoff and they might be the fourth seed.
- 4:36Speaker 2: They'll be in the top four seeds because the conference championship.
- 4:38Speaker 4: No if Boise, if Boise were to win out, I
- 4:41Speaker 4: think Boise would be ranked ahead of them, would be
- 4:43Speaker 4: the conference champion.
- 4:43Speaker 5: That would be the fourth seeds, so they would be down.
- 4:45Speaker 2: I thought the Big Four Conference were the first four seeds.
- 4:48Speaker 2: No matter what, Boise could.
- 4:50Speaker 4: Be ahead of Boise should have lost to Wyoming. They're
- 4:53Speaker 4: not very good, but that's the way it works out.
- 4:55Speaker 4: But anyways, if i was State wins and Arizona State
- 4:59Speaker 4: wins and BYU wins, I mean BYU probably.
- 5:02Speaker 5: Will be Houston.
- 5:03Speaker 4: But if that happens, it'll be Iowa State, Arizona State,
- 5:05Speaker 4: the Big Twelve championship game, Colorado will be out.
- 5:08Speaker 3: You know what happens when the Jaguars are two to
- 5:11Speaker 3: nine coming off of by this that comes to college football.
- 5:15Speaker 4: Well, because it should be a lesson. It should be
- 5:17Speaker 4: a lesson on bad coaching. What happened at the end
- 5:19Speaker 4: of the ASU game. I don't know if you guys
- 5:21Speaker 4: saw it, because whatever coaches out there, take it, learn it,
- 5:25Speaker 4: live it, and never do anything like that guy ever
- 5:28Speaker 4: did again in your entire life.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Do you like Dillingham as a coach, don't you.
- 5:31Speaker 5: I think it's great coach, but I think his situational coaching.
- 5:34Speaker 5: Did you see what Tony?
- 5:35Speaker 4: They were up five, They had a first and goal
- 5:38Speaker 4: at the seven yard line with a minute ten left.
- 5:41Speaker 5: They ran the ball first down, they called time out.
- 5:43Speaker 4: On second down, he lost ten yards trying to burn clock,
- 5:47Speaker 4: then went down, took the knee. They called time out,
- 5:50Speaker 4: and on third down he went back like twenty five
- 5:52Speaker 4: yards and then took the knee. And by the time
- 5:56Speaker 4: he think he was gonna end up throwing the ball
- 5:58Speaker 4: out of bounds, well he threw it out of bounds.
- 6:00Speaker 4: Some fan touched it. There was a they stormed the field.
- 6:02Speaker 4: There was a second left, and they had a hail
- 6:04Speaker 4: Mary and you caught it on the three yard line
- 6:07Speaker 4: and the game ended that way? Why not just go
- 6:10Speaker 4: score a touchdown?
- 6:11Speaker 5: And right right?
- 6:14Speaker 4: So it was a moron alert times five hundred and
- 6:18Speaker 4: I was ready to throw something through the TV.
- 6:21Speaker 2: I can imagine just watching at Arizona steaking with Pete.
- 6:24Speaker 2: You like that, that'd be great. A couple of cold
- 6:26Speaker 2: ones in. He's passionate. All right, We've.
- 6:30Speaker 3: Avoided it as long as we can let's get to
- 6:33Speaker 3: the Jaguars two and nine coming off to buy back
- 6:36Speaker 3: in the office today.
- 6:38Speaker 2: There was a practice today for the Jaguars as well.
- 6:41Speaker 3: Before that, head coach Doug Peterson meeting with the media
- 6:44Speaker 3: and setting the tone after the bye week.
- 6:47Speaker 6: I know there's a lot of negativity around us, and
- 6:50Speaker 6: rightfully so, and then we understand that around me. I
- 6:52Speaker 6: understand that, but but I choose not to listen to it,
- 6:56Speaker 6: and I choose to go the other way and be
- 6:58Speaker 6: positive because you only get so many days and so
- 7:01Speaker 6: many opportunities in this league, and then and then your
- 7:03Speaker 6: days are done. And when they're done, you know, you
- 7:06Speaker 6: look back and you go, hey, you know, I gave it.
- 7:08Speaker 6: I gave it everything. You know that that I that
- 7:11Speaker 6: I had, you know, to these players, to this team,
- 7:13Speaker 6: to this league, and that's what I choose, and I
- 7:16Speaker 6: choose to to go out, you know, every single day
- 7:19Speaker 6: and try to make a difference for this team.
- 7:20Speaker 3: There was a similar echo of you know, something like
- 7:24Speaker 3: that in the locker room today, which is open to
- 7:26Speaker 3: the media, and that's what they have to look forward to.
- 7:28Speaker 3: Now six games to go, they're not mathematically eliminated Tony.
- 7:32Speaker 2: If they win the rest of them and Houston loses
- 7:34Speaker 2: all theirs. They're in Week one hosting a playoff game
- 7:38Speaker 2: eight nine. Come on, Pete, hop on board.
- 7:43Speaker 4: I mean, come on, seriously, you're saying there's a chance.
- 7:50Speaker 5: Is that the only there is a wildcard chance? I
- 7:53Speaker 5: think too.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, but I mean.
- 7:56Speaker 5: There's no chance. They're not They're not.
- 7:58Speaker 4: They're not ripping off every win. They're not gonna it's
- 8:00Speaker 4: not gonna happen. I will say this though, after watching
- 8:03Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks and watching the bye week,
- 8:06Speaker 4: this was a blown opportunity for this team to win
- 8:10Speaker 4: the division. Yes, way the division has played out, we
- 8:13Speaker 4: all thought it would be a good division.
- 8:15Speaker 5: It's an awful division. And the Texas have major flaws,
- 8:17Speaker 5: by the way, major flaws including the quarterback.
- 8:20Speaker 2: The quarterback's not playing very well. Oh, I'm going to
- 8:24Speaker 2: watch that on the All twenty two this week. I
- 8:26Speaker 2: watched the game. I've not watched it yet, Pete, what's
- 8:29Speaker 2: their biggest issue because I watched them interesting enough against
- 8:32Speaker 2: the Lions where they played great defensively against the Lions
- 8:38Speaker 2: on that prime time game.
- 8:40Speaker 5: Yeah, they've busted a lot of coverages, which is weird.
- 8:42Speaker 4: Because they but they have the young guys in that secondary,
- 8:45Speaker 4: but they bust a lot of coverages and then they
- 8:47Speaker 4: can't protect them and he's sped up, Tony, He's offense.
- 8:52Speaker 2: Is that the biggest issue is the offense?
- 8:55Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it is. I don't.
- 8:57Speaker 4: I think he's been sped up, and I think that's
- 8:59Speaker 4: the offense of line. And even made a change. They
- 9:02Speaker 4: moved the center to left guard. I saw that, and
- 9:05Speaker 4: and it still isn't great. So they can rush the
- 9:09Speaker 4: past or they did that. They sacked Levis eight times
- 9:11Speaker 4: I think in the first half yesterday. I mean, it
- 9:13Speaker 4: was just they're they're you know, the Titans office line
- 9:16Speaker 4: is very good. But then they have a chance to,
- 9:19Speaker 4: you know, really put the hammer to him, and Levis
- 9:21Speaker 4: throws a touchdown to a wide open tight end and
- 9:24Speaker 4: there's nobody near him and he runs basically untouched into
- 9:27Speaker 4: the end zone for like what seventy five yards or whatever.
- 9:29Speaker 2: It was terrible, yeah, quote, yeah, yeah.
- 9:34Speaker 5: They're not very good that the Texans. It just doesn't
- 9:37Speaker 5: you know what we did. We rushed to anoint the
- 9:39Speaker 5: quarterback and.
- 9:40Speaker 2: No, no, no, who whaa don't say we because I
- 9:42Speaker 2: was on the record of saying this entire offseason, in
- 9:47Speaker 2: the start of the show in the preseason, is like,
- 9:50Speaker 2: everyone needs to slow the role.
- 9:52Speaker 5: We all did well. You were not him.
- 9:55Speaker 2: You were all him. Yeah, you were all in Pete,
- 9:57Speaker 2: come on him.
- 9:59Speaker 5: I was on the t team. I was not because
- 10:00Speaker 5: I was.
- 10:01Speaker 2: I wasn't. I wasn't a j Stroud. I think, by
- 10:04Speaker 2: the way, I still think see the Shroud is gonna
- 10:06Speaker 2: be a very good quarterback. But the way everyone, including
- 10:10Speaker 2: you Pete anointed him as like top five, one of
- 10:13Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks in the league, I'm like, whoa, he's
- 10:16Speaker 2: done it for one season.
- 10:17Speaker 5: I didn't say he was top five.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Yes, you did run the let's run the tape. We
- 10:24Speaker 2: have the tape.
- 10:24Speaker 4: Okay, let's be real for the kid. Though his offensive
- 10:27Speaker 4: line has been brewed to all year. He lost taline
- 10:30Speaker 4: for most of the year, then he lost digs for
- 10:32Speaker 4: most he pulled it.
- 10:34Speaker 2: He pulled the Dan Rosky.
- 10:39Speaker 4: I mean, what are you thinking, man? But yeah, they're
- 10:44Speaker 4: not They're not playing very well and this would have
- 10:46Speaker 4: been an opportunity for Jacksonville or whoever in the division
- 10:49Speaker 4: to go take it.
- 10:50Speaker 5: And nobody's taken it. No, they're not any good either.
- 10:54Speaker 5: They could they Look, they couldn't.
- 10:56Speaker 4: There's just sitting there waiting for somebody to take it
- 10:58Speaker 4: from him, and nobody can go take it from them.
- 11:01Speaker 2: It's only two games back for the Colts. No, the
- 11:03Speaker 2: Colts are still in it.
- 11:05Speaker 5: They're in it. But they're not very good either.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Not if they're not. I mean, they had played a
- 11:10Speaker 2: heck of a game against defensively against the Lions beat
- 11:15Speaker 2: holding the twenty four points well under their season average,
- 11:18Speaker 2: but offensively they got nothing with it. They just have nothing.
- 11:22Speaker 4: Yeah, and and look you see that two and nine
- 11:24Speaker 4: sitting there, and you say, okay, if that thing was
- 11:27Speaker 4: five and seven right or five pete, if you have four.
- 11:32Speaker 2: And seven right now, with these last six games, you'd
- 11:34Speaker 2: feel good about yourself. Yeah, certainly, But they're not.
- 11:37Speaker 5: They and they lost a lot of close games. And
- 11:40Speaker 5: you know it's funny.
- 11:40Speaker 4: I go back last night and I watched the Eagles
- 11:42Speaker 4: Rams game and the Eagles maull the Rams last night.
- 11:45Speaker 5: You watched it. Yep, James want a chance to win
- 11:48Speaker 5: that game at Philly.
- 11:49Speaker 2: They did. They had the ball with inexplicably, Yeah, they
- 11:52Speaker 2: had a ball with it on the first and ten
- 11:54Speaker 2: from the fifteen with a chance to win it, and Philly's.
- 11:58Speaker 5: Been really good the last you know, five weeks of
- 12:01Speaker 5: the season. Now, you know, it's just weird the way
- 12:04Speaker 5: this league is right now.
- 12:05Speaker 4: But the bottom line is the Texans aren't great right now,
- 12:08Speaker 4: and if they ever had this was a chance for
- 12:11Speaker 4: them this season, if they had any sort of record
- 12:14Speaker 4: to be able to take the division and there and
- 12:17Speaker 4: there's no way it's happening now, but it could have
- 12:19Speaker 4: happened well.
- 12:20Speaker 2: So the big question cook for this week. I mean,
- 12:23Speaker 2: this is what part of our conversation today will be,
- 12:27Speaker 2: but it's the biggest factor on how I feel about
- 12:31Speaker 2: this game coming up. Is Trevor Lawrence gonna play? He
- 12:34Speaker 2: practiced today. We don't know what his status is because
- 12:38Speaker 2: I don't think they have to announce it until Wednesday, either,
- 12:42Speaker 2: but is he Is he going to be under center
- 12:46Speaker 2: running the offense? Because with mac Jones they have the
- 12:49Speaker 2: last two weeks, I don't think they've gotten past ten points.
- 12:52Speaker 2: It barely got past midfield and.
- 12:54Speaker 5: So it barely looks like a functioning offense.
- 12:58Speaker 2: With mac Jones in there. I don't have a ton
- 13:00Speaker 2: of confidence against the Texans coming this week. But with
- 13:02Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence all right, could get interested chance, absolutely.
- 13:09Speaker 5: But what would you play him though?
- 13:11Speaker 2: I mean, listen, what we already talked about. This goes
- 13:14Speaker 2: back to next This goes back to the last week's
- 13:16Speaker 2: show and when we talked about.
- 13:18Speaker 5: This again again.
- 13:20Speaker 4: If I think the kid might push himself where he
- 13:23Speaker 4: doesn't want to let down his teammates or something, rather
- 13:26Speaker 4: than do the smart thing and not play.
- 13:28Speaker 2: What if he's healthy, Pete, you don't know he hadn't
- 13:31Speaker 2: talked yet.
- 13:32Speaker 4: Well, okay, if he was healthy, then why wouldn't you
- 13:34Speaker 4: come out and say he's healthy. Then they come out
- 13:36Speaker 4: and said he might practice that and we'll see how
- 13:38Speaker 4: it goes.
- 13:38Speaker 5: Is he is he healthy?
- 13:40Speaker 2: We'll find out how you practice. Listen, I actually think
- 13:43Speaker 2: both of you are correct. Pete's Pete is it's fair
- 13:46Speaker 2: with Pete's saying, because if the communication was he's healthy,
- 13:51Speaker 2: we're ready to roll, right, that'd be much easier. But
- 13:54Speaker 2: but CAUs I understand that. But what Pete's point is,
- 13:59Speaker 2: if you're not I'm sure he can practice, is it
- 14:02Speaker 2: worth the risk of playing him in five days?
- 14:06Speaker 3: You don't know if he can practice until he practices.
- 14:08Speaker 3: If he can't give you a practice him again.
- 14:11Speaker 4: But Pete, they're talking about it sounds like they're talking
- 14:13Speaker 4: about practicing him limited and Tony's my point in Tony's
- 14:16Speaker 4: point is.
- 14:17Speaker 5: If he's limited at all, why bother?
- 14:20Speaker 2: I got your p and I agree with me. If
- 14:22Speaker 2: he's limited and is a question mark, then I think
- 14:26Speaker 2: you have to air on the side of precaution right now,
- 14:28Speaker 2: you're two and nine. You invested in two undred fifty
- 14:30Speaker 2: million into him.
- 14:33Speaker 4: Right, I mean, it makes no it makes no sense
- 14:35Speaker 4: at all to play him if you don't have to.
- 14:37Speaker 4: And here's the other flip side of that, JP and
- 14:39Speaker 4: You're you're the two of you are going to get
- 14:41Speaker 4: angry at me when I say this. If there's a
- 14:44Speaker 4: coaching change, which is highly likely, you're going to have
- 14:48Speaker 4: a new coaching here who's going to be implementing a
- 14:51Speaker 4: new offense and a new system, wouldn't it be in
- 14:54Speaker 4: your best interest to have him healthy when that's happening,
- 14:59Speaker 4: rather than have it laid until like May or something.
- 15:02Speaker 4: If God forbid, if he had to have surgery after
- 15:04Speaker 4: the season, that makes all the sense in the world.
- 15:07Speaker 4: This season is in the toilet. I hate to tell
- 15:09Speaker 4: everybody that, but it is. It's done and his best
- 15:13Speaker 4: interest and the best interest for the franchise is making
- 15:17Speaker 4: sure he's ready to go immediately when it's time to
- 15:20Speaker 4: go next year.
- 15:21Speaker 3: Pete, they're not mathematically eliminated yet though they're.
- 15:25Speaker 4: Not ap I know they're not mathematically eliminated, but you're
- 15:28Speaker 4: not mathematically eliminated from growing hair in your head and
- 15:31Speaker 4: it ain't coming back.
- 15:32Speaker 3: Sure, okay, it's fine, but it's mathematical right. And now
- 15:36Speaker 3: when that happens, then you start looking like, we don't
- 15:39Speaker 3: talk draft until they're mathematically eliminated.
- 15:41Speaker 5: Well, that's because Tony doesn't want to and you know.
- 15:44Speaker 2: That's we don't talk any of that stuff.
- 15:47Speaker 3: But until it's officially a white flag, season's over, it's done.
- 15:50Speaker 4: And meanwhile, every fan in the world out there is
- 15:52Speaker 4: talking about the draft right now, but we're not talking
- 15:54Speaker 4: about it because we're talking about a game that that
- 15:57Speaker 4: absolutely means nothing for them in the future of the franchise.
- 16:00Speaker 5: It means nothing.
- 16:00Speaker 2: Pete. I actually disagree with you on that part. I
- 16:02Speaker 2: agree with you your overall assessment of like, if Trevor's
- 16:07Speaker 2: limited isn't worth it, that's a fair conversation. I think
- 16:10Speaker 2: that's a fair point of view, and I also get
- 16:12Speaker 2: what you're saying, JP is. If he can play, he plays,
- 16:14Speaker 2: That's what he gets paid to do. Let's go because
- 16:15Speaker 2: let's try to win a football game. Or I completely
- 16:18Speaker 2: disagree with you, Pete Is. I do think this is
- 16:21Speaker 2: a big one. I think this is an important one.
- 16:25Speaker 2: You're at home. It's the Houston Texans, it's division lead.
- 16:29Speaker 2: I'm not saying everything's fixed if you beat them, and
- 16:33Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're gonna run off five straight if
- 16:36Speaker 2: you beat them, But I just get a sense this
- 16:40Speaker 2: is really important to the fans, to the organization, Like
- 16:45Speaker 2: you don't want to go out there and lay a
- 16:47Speaker 2: stinker against your rival, the Texans, because because the reality is, Pete,
- 16:53Speaker 2: here's the reality. If this team does the right things,
- 16:59Speaker 2: and we can talk about this on future shows, if
- 17:03Speaker 2: the team does the right thing as far as how
- 17:05Speaker 2: they build the roster, and this is my opinion, I
- 17:08Speaker 2: don't think you're that far away. And the two best
- 17:13Speaker 2: quarterbacks in this division are still Trevor Lawrence and C. J. Stroud.
- 17:19Speaker 2: And because of that, I still think for the years
- 17:23Speaker 2: to come, it's gonna come down to the Texans and
- 17:25Speaker 2: the Jaguars for the AFC South more times than not
- 17:29Speaker 2: because of the quarterback play. I don't think the Titans
- 17:32Speaker 2: have their guy, and Will Levis.
- 17:34Speaker 5: I disagree with you.
- 17:35Speaker 2: I'm playing really well and I don't think.
- 17:39Speaker 5: I played him yesterday by the way he played Stroud.
- 17:41Speaker 2: And I don't think Anthony Richardson is the right guy.
- 17:45Speaker 5: It's early on better yesterday. It was better yesterday.
- 17:48Speaker 2: I'm better.
- 17:49Speaker 5: I know they didn't score a lot of points, Yester,
- 17:50Speaker 5: but he's been better the last come.
- 17:51Speaker 2: Okay, P I'll ask you this. If you had to
- 17:53Speaker 2: rank the four quarterbacks right now, Trevor and CJ.
- 17:58Speaker 5: Stroud, c J.
- 17:59Speaker 4: Strouds Trevor one two and then Levis and then richards.
- 18:03Speaker 2: And and you're the quarterback guy. Typically, isn't the team
- 18:07Speaker 2: with the better quarterbacks are going to win the division
- 18:09Speaker 2: more times than not?
- 18:10Speaker 5: Well?
- 18:11Speaker 4: We used to, yes, yes, but again I'm going to
- 18:14Speaker 4: go back to our old theory on it. And the
- 18:16Speaker 4: more I watch football, the more i'm I believe.
- 18:19Speaker 5: That I always have and I always will well. And
- 18:21Speaker 5: I was disappointed night.
- 18:23Speaker 2: I was disappointed with your post on X last night,
- 18:27Speaker 2: very disappointed because you acted like you came up with
- 18:30Speaker 2: this idea of big people on your own. I wish
- 18:32Speaker 2: you would a reference. My good friend Tony has been
- 18:35Speaker 2: telling me this for years. I am now a believer
- 18:38Speaker 2: that big people are important. I'm not shocked that he
- 18:40Speaker 2: would take somebody else's idea and use it for used
- 18:42Speaker 2: it for himself. I like to call who's.
- 18:49Speaker 4: Ever since when I covered when I first started covering
- 18:52Speaker 4: a franchise and Laughlin brought me your your old stinky tape.
- 18:55Speaker 5: To watch because he's gonna draft you. What you talking at, Bete?
- 18:58Speaker 2: Who's been hammering you for a year years about this?
- 19:01Speaker 2: How you build it?
- 19:02Speaker 4: I've always believed that the conviction that you showed on X.
- 19:06Speaker 2: I wish you would I feel.
- 19:08Speaker 5: Like the quarterbacks first, and you would admit that I agree.
- 19:11Speaker 2: But I wish you would have given a little bit
- 19:12Speaker 2: of credit instead of plagiarizing my thoughts.
- 19:14Speaker 5: Hey, hey, look I did something nice for you.
- 19:17Speaker 4: I made we did a thing yesterday on set the
- 19:19Speaker 4: top five Italian football players of all time.
- 19:21Speaker 5: You came in number three.
- 19:23Speaker 2: Three who was one and two?
- 19:25Speaker 5: Franco Rino and Montana. What are you kidding me? You're
- 19:29Speaker 5: not ahead of them?
- 19:29Speaker 2: Franco on the list.
- 19:31Speaker 5: Franco was four.
- 19:32Speaker 2: Okay, Franklin.
- 19:34Speaker 4: That's that's the Bosas and Flacco and all these guys
- 19:38Speaker 4: were in there as well.
- 19:39Speaker 5: But uh, you know you were you were you were
- 19:41Speaker 5: number three?
- 19:43Speaker 2: Thank you. I know we're over when we come back.
- 19:47Speaker 2: You know what I want to talk about, Pete. I
- 19:49Speaker 2: can't wait to hear this. How does this team beat
- 19:52Speaker 2: the Texans this week? What's that game plan? Let's talk
- 19:56Speaker 2: about how they beat them, and then we'll get to
- 19:57Speaker 2: defense later. We got to talk about defense, no doubt
- 20:00Speaker 2: about it. But I want to because like that's the
- 20:02Speaker 2: most important thing, like we can look back and beat
- 20:04Speaker 2: up everything two and nine and everything else, like the
- 20:09Speaker 2: whole talk after and I also the other thing. Two
- 20:11Speaker 2: things I want to talk about today. I mean, you
- 20:13Speaker 2: better hurry. We're running out of time. Okay? How that?
- 20:15Speaker 2: And then Pete, I want to get your perspective because
- 20:18Speaker 2: before the Detroit game, the tweet came out I believe
- 20:21Speaker 2: it was Ian Rapperport and said that if they get
- 20:23Speaker 2: be badly, there's going to be changes. Yes, nothing happened, correct,
- 20:26Speaker 2: How does it? Where does that come from? Pete? You're
- 20:28Speaker 2: in this world, yep. I don't fully understand where these
- 20:31Speaker 2: leaks and how this happens, but Ian Rappaport was adamant
- 20:35Speaker 2: and nothing happened.
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- 21:08Speaker 6: You took a dive into that right schematically, just to
- 21:10Speaker 6: see where we were and see what we're doing, and see.
- 21:13Speaker 5: What we do well.
- 21:13Speaker 6: And you know there's some things that I'm not going
- 21:17Speaker 6: to get into the whole details of things, but you
- 21:19Speaker 6: know there's things in the run game that we got
- 21:20Speaker 6: to get back to, even in the passing game, you know,
- 21:24Speaker 6: tweaking some things there, and some things that we can
- 21:27Speaker 6: help our you know, hopefully help our production you know,
- 21:30Speaker 6: the next uh in the next six weeks and then
- 21:32Speaker 6: and ultimately just have some time away. You know, we
- 21:35Speaker 6: needed as I said last week, we needed uh, you know,
- 21:38Speaker 6: some rest and get refreshed and and you know see
- 21:42Speaker 6: where see where these next six weeks.
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- 22:02Speaker 3: learn more. Well, I figure out how to beat the
- 22:04Speaker 3: Texans coming up in just a moment. But Pete, we
- 22:08Speaker 3: were going to break and Tony has this laundry list
- 22:11Speaker 3: of things he wants to talk about.
- 22:13Speaker 5: It's amazing.
- 22:14Speaker 3: And speaking of plagiarism, there's and I don't want to
- 22:18Speaker 3: give the full you know how we make the sausage
- 22:20Speaker 3: here every Monday. But in the morning, I put together
- 22:23Speaker 3: a list of ideas that I have, right Pete, we texted.
- 22:26Speaker 2: I texted out to both of you guys and Pete
- 22:28Speaker 2: and I basically say, we don't care. You ignore it
- 22:30Speaker 2: and you read it or you don't, I don't care whatever.
- 22:33Speaker 3: Thwarth on the list today was how does the report
- 22:36Speaker 3: come out about Peterson on the hot seat? But one
- 22:39Speaker 3: are the nuts and bolts of how that gets reported?
- 22:40Speaker 3: And he just talked about it like he just came up.
- 22:43Speaker 2: With this thing I did. I mean, what are we
- 22:45Speaker 2: doing at nine am to day Tony.
- 22:47Speaker 4: Yeah, well he did a he doesn't read it. I
- 22:49Speaker 4: read it. I read it, and Tony doesn't read it.
- 22:53Speaker 4: So that's where he came up with the idea.
- 22:55Speaker 2: He stole you.
- 22:56Speaker 5: He's a thief of an idea, kind.
- 22:57Speaker 2: Of like you, Pete, like he plagiaris me. Last on
- 23:00Speaker 2: the next unbelievable. Yes, you did.
- 23:03Speaker 4: I taught you, if it was up to you would
- 23:08Speaker 4: be seven on seven football and which, by the way,
- 23:12Speaker 4: that was.
- 23:12Speaker 3: An awful take. By the way, the whole you didn't
- 23:14Speaker 3: like the snow game, Pete, I thought that was stupid too.
- 23:17Speaker 3: I'll say this.
- 23:20Speaker 2: Physical play is coming back. You look at the teams
- 23:26Speaker 2: and the reass reassurgence of backs, of big backs, physical
- 23:31Speaker 2: backs running the ball, play action of fake that's what
- 23:34Speaker 2: the whole lines are built on. You look at the
- 23:37Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers, Josh Jacobs, you look at the Ravens
- 23:41Speaker 2: with with Derrick Henry. I mean, it is a physical
- 23:44Speaker 2: style of football, and some of the better teams right
- 23:48Speaker 2: now in this league are playing that style.
- 23:51Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 23:51Speaker 4: But and you're right, and it's because of the way
- 23:55Speaker 4: defenses play, right, everybody's playing all those off coverages, so
- 23:59Speaker 4: with the safety not being down, why wouldn't you blast?
- 24:01Speaker 2: I agree, I.
- 24:02Speaker 5: Mean, but here, here's the other part of that equation.
- 24:06Speaker 4: It's gonna go back to something I always say on
- 24:07Speaker 4: here about playing fast.
- 24:09Speaker 5: I think.
- 24:11Speaker 4: Offenses have now allowed defenses to dictate to them in
- 24:14Speaker 4: a lot of ways, which is why it's going back
- 24:16Speaker 4: to that run game, Tony. You know, normally you come
- 24:19Speaker 4: to the line of scrimmage, you're moving guys around on
- 24:21Speaker 4: offense and they're not doing anything to react to it,
- 24:24Speaker 4: you know, And in the year's past, Well, now they're
- 24:28Speaker 4: rotating as you rotate, and they're moving, and they're moving.
- 24:30Speaker 5: And guys, you notice this too, I know you do.
- 24:33Speaker 5: More guys are.
- 24:34Speaker 4: Holding quarterbacks are holding onto the damn ball this year
- 24:37Speaker 4: than I've ever seen.
- 24:39Speaker 5: You know.
- 24:39Speaker 4: Offensive line play isn't good, but they're holding the ball.
- 24:43Speaker 4: All the young ones hold them, and even some of
- 24:45Speaker 4: the veterans are starting to hold the football because of
- 24:48Speaker 4: all the looks that the coverages give them. But more
- 24:51Speaker 4: than that, up front, all those twists and exotic looks
- 24:55Speaker 4: and stunts are.
- 24:55Speaker 5: Given linemen problems.
- 24:57Speaker 4: So what happened has what has happened it is the
- 25:00Speaker 4: defenses are now dictating to the offenses, which is why
- 25:04Speaker 4: the run game's becoming vogue.
- 25:06Speaker 5: To get away from that, you just blast them.
- 25:08Speaker 4: But I think another way to do that is what
- 25:11Speaker 4: I always say. Here we go go fast, go fast,
- 25:15Speaker 4: go go back to the old k gun style offense,
- 25:18Speaker 4: and you dictated to him.
- 25:20Speaker 2: No, I mean, there's merit for that. But it's amazing
- 25:24Speaker 2: how a run game will open up and force a
- 25:28Speaker 2: defense to come stop the run. And now there's more
- 25:30Speaker 2: space in the past game.
- 25:33Speaker 5: Correct, the Lions are exhibit A.
- 25:36Speaker 2: Yep. Right, So let's let's we'll talk about how you
- 25:40Speaker 2: beat the Texans next segment. Yeah, let's talk about this report.
- 25:43Speaker 2: Pete walk us through. How does this happen? I mean,
- 25:47Speaker 2: you're in the business. This is your you know, value way,
- 25:49Speaker 2: not that you're a I.
- 25:51Speaker 5: Mean, I'll give you an example.
- 25:52Speaker 4: You saw Mike mclargy came out the other day and
- 25:54Speaker 4: said that he told Ian Rappidport a lie. Yeah, I mean,
- 25:59Speaker 4: and can I I can say that's actually happened to me.
- 26:04Speaker 5: It happened to me in the draft that Nick Bosa
- 26:06Speaker 5: and Kyler Murray were coming out. Do you remember that draft? Yep?
- 26:09Speaker 5: And this is how stuff happens.
- 26:12Speaker 4: One of the guys that was in Arizona that I
- 26:14Speaker 4: trusted greatly, I know him for years. I sent him
- 26:18Speaker 4: a text. I said, hey, who are you drafted? You know, basically,
- 26:22Speaker 4: give me an idea. You know, they had the number
- 26:24Speaker 4: one over pick. They sent me a picture of Nick
- 26:26Speaker 4: Bosa and I went, wait a second, You're not serious, right,
- 26:32Speaker 4: He goes, oh, very serious. So I come out that
- 26:36Speaker 4: week and I say, hey, look, the bottom line is
- 26:39Speaker 4: they're not all in on Kyler Murray just yet.
- 26:41Speaker 5: There's a chance it could be Nick Bosa.
- 26:43Speaker 4: So when the pick comes to the podium that that year,
- 26:47Speaker 4: I took endless stream of crap from people because I
- 26:50Speaker 4: said that, well, the person that told me that I trusted,
- 26:55Speaker 4: I knew him for decades and I trusted.
- 26:58Speaker 5: Him, so neils to say.
- 27:00Speaker 4: I went back out to Arizona in February and May
- 27:02Speaker 4: of that year to go do something on Kyler Murray.
- 27:05Speaker 4: And I went and had dinner with that guy, and
- 27:07Speaker 4: I said, why in the hell would you do that
- 27:10Speaker 4: to me? Of all the people out there, you know
- 27:15Speaker 4: me for decades, Why did you do that to me?
- 27:17Speaker 5: I thought? And I just reamed them and I said,
- 27:20Speaker 5: if that's the way you're gonna be. Then we're done.
- 27:23Speaker 4: And he tried to say that there was a clause
- 27:25Speaker 4: in the baseball contract that hadn't finalized. Spieled, but I
- 27:30Speaker 4: reamed them and I said, look, if we're going to
- 27:33Speaker 4: go on here, you can't do that to me. So
- 27:36Speaker 4: you see Malarkey's situation. He gives laughs about it. It's
- 27:40Speaker 4: not funny. He gave it to eat to rap Aport
- 27:42Speaker 4: and he went with it. He made him look like
- 27:43Speaker 4: an idiot. Well, this time somebody clearly leaked something to Rapaport,
- 27:49Speaker 4: somebody who can't make that decision, somebody who won't make
- 27:53Speaker 4: that decision, but somebody around it leaked it to Rapaport
- 27:58Speaker 4: saying before the game, something will happen. That's how that gets,
- 28:02Speaker 4: is it, Pete?
- 28:03Speaker 2: I know we're speculating, is it agents? Is it?
- 28:08Speaker 5: No, you're not. You can't run that with it it
- 28:10Speaker 5: you can't run you can't put that out.
- 28:12Speaker 2: So that's somebody in the building who's saying that that
- 28:15Speaker 2: doesn't actually have the juice to make the decision in
- 28:19Speaker 2: your estimation.
- 28:21Speaker 4: Correct, Look, the only one who can make the damn
- 28:23Speaker 4: decision is Sean Cohn.
- 28:25Speaker 5: So you know it didn't come from him, absolutely not,
- 28:29Speaker 5: absolutely not.
- 28:30Speaker 4: Would it come from other people in the building probably,
- 28:33Speaker 4: and that's where he probably got it from.
- 28:34Speaker 5: And so yeah, if we get.
- 28:36Speaker 4: Blown out today, it's gonna look it's it's a it's
- 28:38Speaker 4: a dog eat dog world, Tony. I mean, I could,
- 28:41Speaker 4: I could go back to stories and when when Mike
- 28:43Speaker 4: Smith was gonna be fired in Atlanta, and guys in
- 28:47Speaker 4: that building were circling around him like a vulture hoping
- 28:50Speaker 4: he would lose a game because then he would be fired.
- 28:52Speaker 4: And they went to New Orleans and beat New Orleans,
- 28:54Speaker 4: and the guys, the other guys in the other building
- 28:56Speaker 4: were they were upset about it. They had scowls on
- 28:58Speaker 4: their faces even though they won the game because they
- 29:00Speaker 4: wanted them out.
- 29:01Speaker 5: Well, that's the kind of stuff you get.
- 29:03Speaker 4: That kind of stuff gets leaked out, and that's probably
- 29:06Speaker 4: what happened in that situation.
- 29:07Speaker 2: Interesting, all right, guys, we'll come back and we'll formulate
- 29:10Speaker 2: a game plan to beat the Texans when we come back.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Let's do it a path to.
- 29:15Speaker 5: Find got to get better draft pick, get it better
- 29:17Speaker 5: draft pick?
- 29:18Speaker 3: Hey mathematically still alive, Pete, And especially if they beat the.
- 29:22Speaker 5: Number one overall pick. You can bargain that thing down
- 29:25Speaker 5: the road. You don't win.
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- 29:56Speaker 6: We'll find out today. We'll see where Trevor's at today.
- 30:00Speaker 6: You know, then he's got tomorrow come in and get treatment,
- 30:03Speaker 6: and you know, see where he's at on Wednesday. How
- 30:06Speaker 6: he feels he's feeling better today, you know.
- 30:07Speaker 5: So that's that's positive.
- 30:09Speaker 2: That is positive.
- 30:10Speaker 3: That's head coach Doug Peterson earlier today and welcome back
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- 30:38Speaker 3: We're on ten ten XLAM, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube,
- 30:41Speaker 3: JP Shadwick Hall of Famer, Tony Boselli, and Pete Prisco,
- 30:45Speaker 3: who should be in the Hall of Fame as well.
- 30:47Speaker 2: One of the greatest Pete reporters I've ever been around.
- 30:52Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Yes, all right, let's figure out and
- 30:57Speaker 3: formulate and share a game plan for the Jaguars to
- 31:02Speaker 3: beat the Houston Texans this week. Now, mind you, the
- 31:04Speaker 3: Texans have won nine of the last ten trips to Jacksonville.
- 31:07Speaker 2: Thank you JP for the encouraging word.
- 31:09Speaker 3: And the Texans are in first place in the AFC side. Yes,
- 31:12Speaker 3: we realize that the Jaguars have lost what four in
- 31:14Speaker 3: a row. We're five games back.
- 31:16Speaker 2: Yes, so if we lose this to them, we're I
- 31:18Speaker 2: think technically out of We have no chance of winning
- 31:21Speaker 2: that a vision race, yes, maybe outside chance of wildcard
- 31:25Speaker 2: p there isn't it.
- 31:27Speaker 4: Now, get the number one seat, number one overall.
- 31:31Speaker 5: Pick that you do it with a division stop it.
- 31:33Speaker 3: Jeene Fornette had the tweet earlier today. Jaguars will be
- 31:36Speaker 3: the first team eliminated if they lose to Houston, and
- 31:38Speaker 3: then they would be out of the wild card. If
- 31:40Speaker 3: the Chargers win in Atlanta, Ravens win against the Eagles,
- 31:43Speaker 3: and the Denver wins at home on Monday Night against
- 31:46Speaker 3: the Browns, that's a lot to happen. Yeah, in the theory,
- 31:49Speaker 3: they could be eliminated AllGame.
- 31:51Speaker 2: In theory. In theory, they can still be in the
- 31:54Speaker 2: race and Pete can get his wish and we're talking
- 31:56Speaker 2: draft next week, right, or they could keep the dream alive.
- 32:03Speaker 5: You know. Here, here's the thing about that, Tony.
- 32:05Speaker 4: You talk about a win and how it could be
- 32:08Speaker 4: important to the organization and beat the division rival and
- 32:13Speaker 4: all that.
- 32:15Speaker 5: You don't really believe that.
- 32:17Speaker 4: And here's why, because I remember, I remember way back
- 32:20Speaker 4: in the day and you told me this.
- 32:23Speaker 5: In nineteen ninety five, your team went to Cleveland. Yeah,
- 32:29Speaker 5: and one.
- 32:31Speaker 2: We went to Cleveland early in one.
- 32:34Speaker 5: No, you what was the last game of the year.
- 32:36Speaker 5: It was in.
- 32:36Speaker 2: Jacksonville against Cleveland. It was in Jacksonville, Okay, and you won. Yeah,
- 32:40Speaker 2: we won.
- 32:42Speaker 4: And the talk was that it carried over to the
- 32:45Speaker 4: next season and it gave you a momentum. And you
- 32:49Speaker 4: back then with the point you've made about five hundred
- 32:53Speaker 4: times since then.
- 32:55Speaker 5: You told me no damn way that carried over.
- 33:00Speaker 2: To be honest with the Pete. After that game, I
- 33:01Speaker 2: just wanted to leave. I wanted to get out of it.
- 33:03Speaker 2: I didn't want to see anybody else.
- 33:04Speaker 4: It was right after that game you said it, and
- 33:07Speaker 4: I think you said it throughout the entire offseason because
- 33:10Speaker 4: I kept trying to ask you, hey, yeah, and then
- 33:13Speaker 4: you've said it many a time since then, So you
- 33:17Speaker 4: don't truly believe that.
- 33:18Speaker 2: I guess not. I just I just I just what
- 33:24Speaker 2: I don't like and why it's important, mate. It's just
- 33:26Speaker 2: important to me is because of the stat that JP
- 33:29Speaker 2: just said they've won nine to ten here, and I
- 33:31Speaker 2: don't like that. You used to bother I just it
- 33:34Speaker 2: bothers the you know what out of me because it
- 33:37Speaker 2: just sets to me. Yeah, I just don't like that.
- 33:39Speaker 4: So yeah, I could see where that would matter and
- 33:42Speaker 4: you'd like to get one.
- 33:43Speaker 2: But that's just so you know, that's where all my
- 33:46Speaker 2: motivation is coming from, because you're exactly right, and if
- 33:49Speaker 2: I'm being consistent. I said it ninety five as a
- 33:53Speaker 2: going into my second year and when the head coach
- 33:57Speaker 2: was saying, you know, everyone else was saying not everyone,
- 33:59Speaker 2: but other people were saying differently, And I'm like, no,
- 34:02Speaker 2: I don't. It's a different team, right, it's different players.
- 34:06Speaker 2: You go get free agents, guys leave, you get a draft.
- 34:09Speaker 2: I mean, it's a different team.
- 34:10Speaker 3: Why does bad football carry over? Like they they It doesn't,
- 34:14Speaker 3: well last does it?
- 34:15Speaker 2: Yes, you're down the stretch. Why did that carry over
- 34:17Speaker 2: to the start? Back to what I said last week?
- 34:19Speaker 2: You it could be systemic. You got to look at
- 34:22Speaker 2: the whole organization.
- 34:23Speaker 5: It also could be you were never as damn good
- 34:25Speaker 5: as you thought you were.
- 34:26Speaker 2: Either, well, that'd be systemic, right, I mean, I just okay,
- 34:33Speaker 2: but I'll say this speech.
- 34:35Speaker 5: It'll carry out.
- 34:36Speaker 4: If you're good your next season, you should be good again.
- 34:38Speaker 4: It should carry over. If you're bad your next season,
- 34:41Speaker 4: you might get a little bit better. You might not,
- 34:42Speaker 4: but it should carry over at least for a year
- 34:45Speaker 4: or two. It's hard to get out from underneath your crap.
- 34:48Speaker 4: But if you're a really good team like the Chiefs.
- 34:50Speaker 4: Do you think the Chiefs Super Bowl carried over to
- 34:53Speaker 4: this year?
- 34:53Speaker 5: No good.
- 34:57Speaker 2: Quarterback? They got one of the best three techniques in football.
- 35:01Speaker 2: They got They have a systemic issue and it's a
- 35:03Speaker 2: good one. Yeah, they're good. Yeah, I mean, and.
- 35:06Speaker 4: So I don't I never have believed that carries over
- 35:08Speaker 4: from season to season.
- 35:09Speaker 5: I just it's entirely different team.
- 35:12Speaker 4: How many guys from that team that you won and
- 35:14Speaker 4: that won that last game in ninety five were even
- 35:16Speaker 4: on the team in ninety six there were a lot
- 35:19Speaker 4: of them were gone.
- 35:20Speaker 2: Yeah. Let me tell you what carries over. What carries
- 35:24Speaker 2: over is how you do things, the culture, the standard. Correct,
- 35:28Speaker 2: That's what carries over from year to year.
- 35:32Speaker 5: In this scenario, it might not.
- 35:34Speaker 2: Go let's know what, I know what you're saying, Pete,
- 35:41Speaker 2: but I think overall your identity as a franchise and
- 35:43Speaker 2: who you are and how you do things and what
- 35:47Speaker 2: the standard is and just kind of that carries over.
- 35:52Speaker 5: But when we talked all year of as team doesn't
- 35:54Speaker 5: have an.
- 35:55Speaker 2: Identity, Okay, that's you're making my point, Pete.
- 36:01Speaker 5: So can you get an identity in the last six
- 36:02Speaker 5: games of the season. No, I don't know, No, you can't.
- 36:06Speaker 4: You know, if if this was one of those shows
- 36:11Speaker 4: where we had a light of that draw on you,
- 36:12Speaker 4: that thing would be going off.
- 36:16Speaker 2: Well, I I want to win because I don't like
- 36:18Speaker 2: them winning nine at ten, and I think going back
- 36:20Speaker 2: to the big the question we asked is how do
- 36:22Speaker 2: they do it? Yeah? They what trealor Lawrence has to
- 36:24Speaker 2: play has to I mean, I haven't seen anything with
- 36:28Speaker 2: mac Jones in there that gives me any hope that
- 36:30Speaker 2: offensively they have any idea of what to do and
- 36:32Speaker 2: how to move the ball consistently.
- 36:34Speaker 4: Well, six weeks ago, you had him traded for a
- 36:36Speaker 4: nice draft pick or something.
- 36:37Speaker 2: I was wrong. It doesn't happen very often, Pizza, you
- 36:41Speaker 2: and I p I can admit when I'm wrong.
- 36:43Speaker 5: You can't admit I'm wrong.
- 36:44Speaker 2: You can't admit when you steal people's ideas.
- 36:48Speaker 5: I was wrong. I admitted I thought this team would
- 36:51Speaker 5: be good.
- 36:52Speaker 3: You got quarterbacks, I he interrupted me, Okay, what else
- 36:56Speaker 3: you got?
- 36:57Speaker 2: Listen? What was Tank Bigsby out there today? Because I
- 36:59Speaker 2: think think's important. I saw him running around in the
- 37:01Speaker 2: open I've said it all year. I said it in
- 37:04Speaker 2: preseason and I got laughed at that. He is key
- 37:07Speaker 2: to the running the game, and I think he's your
- 37:09Speaker 2: best running back running the ball. I saw him in
- 37:12Speaker 2: the open media time today out there and when has
- 37:15Speaker 2: this offense been at its best? When? When Bigsby is
- 37:18Speaker 2: carrying the rock and they're running it well. So they
- 37:22Speaker 2: got to get Bigsby going. They have to get the
- 37:24Speaker 2: run game going against the Texans because right now this
- 37:27Speaker 2: defense is on the field way too much and they're
- 37:30Speaker 2: not good enough to play a tight game back and
- 37:32Speaker 2: forth and get a bunch of three and outs when
- 37:34Speaker 2: you're going three and out, and so you get these
- 37:37Speaker 2: lopsided time of possessions that there's exhaust at eighty two
- 37:40Speaker 2: plays against the against the Lions the week before that,
- 37:43Speaker 2: they had like forty one minutes of time on the field.
- 37:48Speaker 2: It's nuts. And so you have to run the ball
- 37:51Speaker 2: and you got to keep our defense on the sideline
- 37:55Speaker 2: as much as possible. And so running the ball you
- 37:59Speaker 2: need Trevor, but you need to get the run game going,
- 38:02Speaker 2: and hopefully, I think your best chance of doing that's
- 38:04Speaker 2: with biggs By healthy. And then defensively, you're gonna have
- 38:08Speaker 2: to get You're gonna have to steal the ball, you
- 38:10Speaker 2: have to get a couple turnovers, steal some possessions, hopefully
- 38:13Speaker 2: in your own territory. And he's turning it over, so
- 38:16Speaker 2: that's a positive. There's a chance to do that.
- 38:19Speaker 4: And then think their off line isn't great, so that it's.
- 38:24Speaker 2: The other thing you have to do defensively. You gotta
- 38:27Speaker 2: win on first down, I mean, because we're terrible on
- 38:31Speaker 2: third down. Part of the reason we're terrible is because
- 38:34Speaker 2: everything's third and short to third medium. I mean, have
- 38:38Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions almost didn't even have a third down.
- 38:42Speaker 2: Four of their scoring drives, the didn't even get the
- 38:43Speaker 2: third down.
- 38:44Speaker 5: Look at those numbers.
- 38:45Speaker 3: That's just putrids defense rankings last in total D twenty
- 38:49Speaker 3: sixth and rushing D thirty, first in past D twenty nine.
- 38:53Speaker 3: Third down, they're at the bottom of every metric.
- 38:55Speaker 4: I mean, all you gotta ask yourself is what do
- 38:57Speaker 4: they do well? What does that defense do well?
- 38:59Speaker 5: Anything? Nothing? No zero?
- 39:03Speaker 2: If you just look at that and I can't think
- 39:04Speaker 2: of one, well, I.
- 39:06Speaker 5: Mean, and you'd like to think that they could. They
- 39:09Speaker 5: have two good edge rushers.
- 39:10Speaker 4: That premium guys won the first number one overall, you'll
- 39:14Speaker 4: get third long enough.
- 39:15Speaker 2: You don't give them enough opportunities.
- 39:16Speaker 4: Correct, That's what that was my point, Tony. I agree
- 39:19Speaker 4: with you. In a normal defense where you're stopping to run,
- 39:22Speaker 4: those two guys would be significantly better than what they are.
- 39:25Speaker 2: So that's how you beat him. In my opinion, Pete,
- 39:27Speaker 2: disagree with you if you have any other points, but
- 39:30Speaker 2: you gotta Trevor's got to play. You get to run
- 39:31Speaker 2: the ball on offense defensively, win third down, I mean,
- 39:36Speaker 2: win first down. So you create some third down, third
- 39:38Speaker 2: and long situation.
- 39:38Speaker 4: Let your pass back to stop the run the ball
- 39:41Speaker 4: and stop the run.
- 39:42Speaker 5: You have to bete in every game. That's the formula.
- 39:46Speaker 2: No, but I mean it's even more importantly for this team.
- 39:49Speaker 2: And I actually think maybe the most important thing is
- 39:51Speaker 2: for us to run the ball, to stay on the field.
- 39:55Speaker 2: We don't stay.
- 39:56Speaker 5: I mean it is like, no, there's no, there's no,
- 40:00Speaker 5: none of that. But here's the other thing. Okay, what
- 40:02Speaker 5: if it is mac Jones, what do you do? Get
- 40:03Speaker 5: on midfield and get on your hands and knees and pray.
- 40:06Speaker 2: I mean, because I don't have a lot of I
- 40:08Speaker 2: don't have a lot of good answers anything.
- 40:10Speaker 4: I mean, you hate to say it, he's given you nothing,
- 40:12Speaker 4: not one shred of hope that he could be their
- 40:15Speaker 4: backup quarterback, even for the long term.
- 40:17Speaker 5: It's just he's been bad, really bad.
- 40:22Speaker 2: Has he been good? It's nope.
- 40:25Speaker 5: I mean, has he been, he hasn't been as good
- 40:28Speaker 5: as best when he played.
- 40:29Speaker 2: No. So there's the path of victory against the Texans, and.
- 40:36Speaker 4: Really the moral of the story is go down a
- 40:39Speaker 4: different path because you might end up with the first
- 40:41Speaker 4: overall pick.
- 40:42Speaker 2: Peop, I'm gonna ask you a question. I think I
- 40:44Speaker 2: know the answer. Would this team be better off I
- 40:48Speaker 2: have six games ago, go in five and one, So
- 40:54Speaker 2: getting to seven wins, you're gonna miss the playoffs, but
- 40:58Speaker 2: seven wins you finished five soon or losing every game
- 41:03Speaker 2: at five and set, so you go five and one,
- 41:06Speaker 2: you're gonna be probably the tenth pick ten between eight
- 41:09Speaker 2: and twelve. Or are you better off losing every game
- 41:13Speaker 2: and having the first overall pick?
- 41:16Speaker 4: Losing every game and having the first overall pick not
- 41:18Speaker 4: because you need a quarterback, not because you're gonna draft
- 41:21Speaker 4: a quarterback, because somebody's going to go give you a
- 41:22Speaker 4: bunch of stuff to go up and get that quarterback.
- 41:26Speaker 5: That's why.
- 41:27Speaker 4: So if okay, for example, I said this today on
- 41:30Speaker 4: the show we did, I said, if Jacksonville had the
- 41:33Speaker 4: number one overall pick, you trade down how many spots whatever?
- 41:38Speaker 4: You get some extra picks if you have and they
- 41:41Speaker 4: have a lot of picks. If you have premium picks
- 41:43Speaker 4: and you get four two offensive linemen and two interior
- 41:48Speaker 4: defensive linemen, all of a sudden, you look around, you
- 41:51Speaker 4: go this offensive lines bigger and stronger and better, and
- 41:55Speaker 4: the defensive lines bigger, stronger and better. Well, I'll say
- 41:59Speaker 4: everybody once, everybody out there is looking for edge rushers.
- 42:02Speaker 5: They're not looking for edge rushers. They're looking for guys
- 42:04Speaker 5: that can play down.
- 42:05Speaker 2: They're looking for big guys. In my opinion, that's what
- 42:07Speaker 2: they should go for. And a per interesting example of
- 42:11Speaker 2: what you just said. If you look at the Rams
- 42:13Speaker 2: got beat up yesterday. I mean, the Eagles are better,
- 42:17Speaker 2: but you look at that Rams defensive line. They got
- 42:20Speaker 2: four starters, good players that either are rookies or on
- 42:27Speaker 2: their in their second year. Correct, they hit with two
- 42:31Speaker 2: last year, and they hit with two more this year.
- 42:35Speaker 2: Now for the next four years, they got guys that
- 42:39Speaker 2: can play now at some point for you know, three
- 42:43Speaker 2: four years down the road, they're gonna have to make
- 42:45Speaker 2: a decision. They can't keep them, all right, but you
- 42:48Speaker 2: got young, cheap talent who can play right, and they
- 42:52Speaker 2: did that through the draft.
- 42:53Speaker 3: All right, let's come back in a moment. Guys, we're
- 42:55Speaker 3: gonna keep it real early today and we come back. Oh,
- 42:58Speaker 3: it'll be faster. We'll do it fast, keep it real
- 43:00Speaker 3: because we're.
- 43:01Speaker 2: Gonna double up on around the league later. If that's
- 43:03Speaker 2: okay with you, Tony, I think it was my idea.
- 43:05Speaker 2: I don't think so. Yeah, I think I came up
- 43:07Speaker 2: with that one too. Now you're gonna do it wrong totally.
- 43:10Speaker 2: You're just plagiarizing everybody today. You Impete steel ideas. What
- 43:14Speaker 2: you do.
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- 43:42Speaker 3: This Sunday, the Jaguars go head to head with the
- 43:44Speaker 3: division rival Houston Texans for the mic cause Mike Cleats game.
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- 43:57Speaker 3: of Keeping It Real, presented by No One, and we
- 44:02Speaker 3: talked defense today coming out of the bye week. What
- 44:06Speaker 3: are some of the adjustments you'd like to see on
- 44:09Speaker 3: defense and how can they salvage it defensively this year?
- 44:12Speaker 2: And you have about three minutes total. Yeah, I mean,
- 44:15Speaker 2: I think the first thing I would do is I'm
- 44:22Speaker 2: getting Ventro Miller on the field. I think I would
- 44:26Speaker 2: put him in Foyer as your two inside linebackers, and
- 44:28Speaker 2: I would over the break work in Devin Lloyd as
- 44:34Speaker 2: the sam because it gives you, I think more speed,
- 44:37Speaker 2: it gives you more I mean, I think I think
- 44:41Speaker 2: Ventrol's just playing better watching the tape. I think you
- 44:47Speaker 2: got to make it as simple as you need to
- 44:48Speaker 2: to make sure you know, guys are lined up in
- 44:50Speaker 2: the right place, you're not having to bust down the field.
- 44:54Speaker 2: And then you got to find a way to stop
- 44:55Speaker 2: the run. If that's dropping the say, if he takes
- 44:59Speaker 2: more chances, dropping the safety in the box, you know
- 45:03Speaker 2: whatever that is. But you cannot you cannot continue to
- 45:07Speaker 2: get run on the way they are and stopping the
- 45:11Speaker 2: run with seven a light box is not working as
- 45:15Speaker 2: of late. Pete, what do you think?
- 45:18Speaker 4: Well, I agree with Tony in terms of playing Miller.
- 45:21Speaker 4: I think he gives him a little thump to the game,
- 45:24Speaker 4: gives him a little toughtest to the game. And you
- 45:26Speaker 4: want to stop Joe Mixon, I mean you want to
- 45:28Speaker 4: put him in passing situation, so that matters. I would
- 45:31Speaker 4: play less man than they've been playing, because I don't
- 45:33Speaker 4: think they're good enough to play man and that will
- 45:35Speaker 4: eat them alive. So I would limit that a little
- 45:38Speaker 4: bit as well. I'd see if I can get somebody
- 45:41Speaker 4: into at safety. I think the safeties have been awful.
- 45:44Speaker 4: And is uh somebody coming off?
- 45:49Speaker 2: Maybe he gets more playing time. He came off right
- 45:51Speaker 2: before the buy.
- 45:52Speaker 5: Yeah, but he didn't really ready to.
- 45:53Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't play much. He just did special teams,
- 45:56Speaker 2: I know, But is he ready?
- 45:57Speaker 4: If he's ready to play, I'd get him on the
- 45:59Speaker 4: field a little bit as well. But if you can't
- 46:03Speaker 4: stop the run, to rush the passer and thus it's
- 46:08Speaker 4: a problem.
- 46:08Speaker 5: So yeah, I agree, put Miller on the field and
- 46:10Speaker 5: let him play. And is your second round pick? Have healthy?
- 46:14Speaker 5: If he's healthy, play him.
- 46:15Speaker 3: He's been on the list, Pete, has he been.
- 46:19Speaker 2: How bad of ankle does he had on the list?
- 46:21Speaker 2: I don't know, But how bad is the ankle? It's
- 46:22Speaker 2: been a while. I thought it was just a spring
- 46:24Speaker 2: but maybe it was a bad high spring season.
- 46:26Speaker 5: He didn't have an ankle and he didn't play correct.
- 46:29Speaker 2: The the other challenge this week for this defense, which
- 46:34Speaker 2: they did not face the first time. The first time
- 46:36Speaker 2: we played Texans. Remember, Joe Mixing was hurt. And when
- 46:41Speaker 2: Joe Mixon gets it going, they're they're a different animal.
- 46:48Speaker 2: They're a different animal both in the screen game and
- 46:51Speaker 2: the run game. He's good in the screen game too.
- 46:53Speaker 5: What week did they play then? Week?
- 46:56Speaker 2: It was like week three or four?
- 46:58Speaker 5: Was Nico Collins in the u.
- 47:00Speaker 2: N They had all the receivers, but they did not
- 47:03Speaker 2: have Joe Mixon.
- 47:05Speaker 4: Right, Well, now they don't have digs and they have
- 47:07Speaker 4: Nico Collins back, and he's back all the way.
- 47:09Speaker 5: So yeah, look it's gonna be.
- 47:10Speaker 4: Here's the other challenge, hurry protecting your quarterback.
- 47:14Speaker 3: Ye back in a moment our one down, hour two
- 47:19Speaker 3: left to go. It is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by
- 47:23Speaker 3: Jet Home Loans.
- 47:36Speaker 6: Yes, nothing that I'll share this time, And I personally
- 47:44Speaker 6: think that just to be a little bit more clear
- 47:48Speaker 6: on that, you know, it's it's sort of I say
- 47:51Speaker 6: that to say this that that a lot of these
- 47:52Speaker 6: are in house, and these are things that that we
- 47:54Speaker 6: we focus on as a staff and as a team,
- 47:56Speaker 6: and I just don't think they need to be in
- 47:59Speaker 6: the open right now.
- 48:01Speaker 3: Head coach Duck Peterson today asked about changes during the
- 48:05Speaker 3: bye week.
- 48:05Speaker 2: Welcome Back.
- 48:06Speaker 3: It's our two of Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Mister
- 48:10Speaker 3: Chubby's Wings. Before the game, after the game, and during
- 48:13Speaker 3: the game. JP Shadrick, Tony Vasselli, Pete Frisco. We're on
- 48:17Speaker 3: ten TOONEXLAM Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. The Jaguars at
- 48:21Speaker 3: two and nine coming off the bye week. Six games
- 48:24Speaker 3: to go in the regular season, the Jaguars have not
- 48:27Speaker 3: been mathematically eliminated. Quarterback questions Trevor Lawrence on the practice
- 48:32Speaker 3: field today coming off a left shoulder injury. Will he
- 48:36Speaker 3: be on the practice field Wednesday? Well, we're about to
- 48:38Speaker 3: find out in two days. The Jaguars defense, well, worst
- 48:42Speaker 3: in the National Football League. How do they improve it
- 48:45Speaker 3: down the stretch? We just touched on that a little bit.
- 48:47Speaker 3: We'll do it a little bit more coming up. And
- 48:49Speaker 3: of course, the division leading Houston Texans are coming to
- 48:51Speaker 3: town this week. They've won nine of the last ten
- 48:54Speaker 3: trips to Jacksonville, Florida, or to one of those was
- 48:59Speaker 3: actually in London a home game. But so the last
- 49:02Speaker 3: eight of the last nine in Jacksonville.
- 49:04Speaker 2: Nine to the last ten home games. Correct? Yes, yes, uh,
- 49:08Speaker 2: I said in Jacksonville. That's incorrect. I wanted to make
- 49:10Speaker 2: sure our food options.
- 49:12Speaker 5: So it's their house thing, right, it's their house.
- 49:15Speaker 2: No, that's what I want, what Tony wants. I don't
- 49:17Speaker 2: like that he liked. I don't like that. That bothers me.
- 49:21Speaker 2: Food option from mister Chubby's.
- 49:23Speaker 3: Tonight we had the chicken Caesar rap and boneless garlic wings.
- 49:27Speaker 2: Boneless garlic wings? Are they're still in there? I might
- 49:29Speaker 2: go get one of those. They were pretty good. I
- 49:31Speaker 2: had a couple. Is there any left? I don't know.
- 49:33Speaker 2: I've been out there in an hour. I've been sitting
- 49:35Speaker 2: right here, Tony. Maybe I'll go check her. I'm told
- 49:37Speaker 2: there are a lot of them. Speaking of food, one
- 49:39Speaker 2: of my favorite days of the years.
- 49:40Speaker 3: Coming out Thanksgiving, Pete, Thanksgiving.
- 49:43Speaker 2: I can't wait.
- 49:45Speaker 5: I'm a disappointed Thanksgiving, do you No?
- 49:48Speaker 2: No, I quit doing that. I don't have one this
- 49:52Speaker 2: year either.
- 49:52Speaker 5: Who uh?
- 49:53Speaker 2: Who do the Lions play? Bears?
- 49:57Speaker 5: Bears?
- 49:58Speaker 2: That'll be interesting.
- 50:00Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's good to watch. Caleb Caboys was better.
- 50:02Speaker 2: Yes, he was. That'll be interesting. I'm not looking forward
- 50:05Speaker 2: to the Giants Cowboys.
- 50:07Speaker 4: No, the Giants Cowboys game is awful. But you know what,
- 50:09Speaker 4: the Cowboys aren't dead yet. If they win that game,
- 50:12Speaker 4: they're five and seven.
- 50:13Speaker 2: Oh no, they're not. And then what's the night game?
- 50:15Speaker 4: Last wildcard? That last wildcard is up for grabs in
- 50:19Speaker 4: the NFC. The night game is Miami at Green Bay.
- 50:22Speaker 2: Well it's a good one too. So this is my
- 50:24Speaker 2: This is going to work perfectly because we're going to
- 50:26Speaker 2: eat around two thirty three, that's right about when the
- 50:30Speaker 2: second game's kicking off, which is a four to thirty kick.
- 50:34Speaker 2: That's the tech. That's the Cowboys game.
- 50:36Speaker 3: Twelve thirty Lions, four thirty Cowboys, eight twenty packers.
- 50:40Speaker 2: So I'll be watching the I'll be cooking, frying my turkeys,
- 50:43Speaker 2: which is my favorite, getting ready, kind of dabbling on
- 50:47Speaker 2: the our nerves. How many turkeys do you have to fry?
- 50:50Speaker 2: By the way, we have a big crowd. Yeah, we
- 50:52Speaker 2: have thirty people for Thanksgiving. My hope, my siblings and
- 50:56Speaker 2: my nephews and nieces are flying in my step mom.
- 51:00Speaker 2: I'll just landed. I got a Texas during the show.
- 51:03Speaker 2: So I'm gonna fry two or three turkeys, depending on
- 51:07Speaker 2: the size of my wife buys. We have a twenty pounder.
- 51:10Speaker 2: We're gonna smoke, and then my mother in law is
- 51:14Speaker 2: going to bake a turkey so I can get the
- 51:16Speaker 2: good dressing baked in there. What time are you starting
- 51:18Speaker 2: this turkey? Tom? By the way, like today the night before,
- 51:22Speaker 2: so take you two days the day before, No, it's
- 51:23Speaker 2: not two days stopping. And then we will have a
- 51:27Speaker 2: honey Bay cam as well. So I'm gonna get up.
- 51:31Speaker 2: We're gonna take a turkey trot. We'll walk on the beach.
- 51:34Speaker 2: I won't be trotting, We'll walk the beach. Come back.
- 51:36Speaker 2: I'll get the fryer's ready. Yeah. Watch football, Well, I
- 51:42Speaker 2: watched the Lions game. I will feast at around two
- 51:47Speaker 2: thirty to three thirty kick off of the Cowboys game.
- 51:50Speaker 2: We'll have four I'll be sleeping in my chair, sitting up,
- 51:55Speaker 2: wake up at some point for leftovers in the night game.
- 51:59Speaker 2: It's the perfect lineup because I don't care about the
- 52:03Speaker 2: Cowboys or the Giants and watching Matt but the first
- 52:07Speaker 2: and third game I'm looking forward to.
- 52:10Speaker 5: By the way, all.
- 52:10Speaker 4: Jaguar fans should watch the Lions on Thanksgiving. That's all
- 52:13Speaker 4: I'm gonna say.
- 52:14Speaker 2: Why is that pete? I'll take I'll take the base.
- 52:18Speaker 5: Watch them. It's fun to watch, fun team.
- 52:21Speaker 4: Just watch why Why Because if there's a coach and change,
- 52:27Speaker 4: that offensive coordinator is a guy that you should target.
- 52:30Speaker 5: I think he's a great coach.
- 52:32Speaker 2: Okay, okay. Watch they're also ten and one. That's another
- 52:36Speaker 2: reason to watch them.
- 52:37Speaker 4: They're good team, fun to watch, Tony. You know what
- 52:41Speaker 4: they did on Sunday. They had like third and six
- 52:44Speaker 4: and third and seven, and they ran the ball and
- 52:46Speaker 4: got first downs.
- 52:49Speaker 2: I was surprised, you know, good for a colch defense.
- 52:54Speaker 2: Gus Bradley, former head coach here, good friend. They must
- 52:58Speaker 2: have done something right only holding that team to twenty
- 52:59Speaker 2: four point. It's pete. I didn't see the game, so yeah, but.
- 53:02Speaker 4: They're so good. I mean they make it look easy.
- 53:05Speaker 4: And you know what it all comes back to again,
- 53:07Speaker 4: we go back.
- 53:08Speaker 5: To the offensive line.
- 53:09Speaker 4: How many times Golf gets to go into the pocket
- 53:13Speaker 4: to play action, look left, look right, look to the
- 53:17Speaker 4: other side.
- 53:18Speaker 5: Then check it down because he has all day.
- 53:21Speaker 4: He has all day back there you or he turns
- 53:26Speaker 4: and fires a shot into the middle on a slant
- 53:28Speaker 4: that's Saint Brown's always wide open in the.
- 53:31Speaker 2: Middle because the linebackers coming.
- 53:34Speaker 5: Yep.
- 53:34Speaker 4: It's incredible and it's a precision offense. It's well done,
- 53:37Speaker 4: it's well coordinated.
- 53:39Speaker 5: Uh and it's fun to watch.
- 53:40Speaker 4: And and by the way, if you want to watch
- 53:42Speaker 4: go football. Kamp Willams was better on Sunday. I give
- 53:44Speaker 4: him the credit.
- 53:44Speaker 5: He he he made some really good throws against the
- 53:48Speaker 5: Vikings on Sunday.
- 53:50Speaker 2: And I can't wait. I love things. Pete. What's your
- 53:52Speaker 2: Thanksgiving routine?
- 53:56Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm working. I gotta go into the studio, but
- 53:58Speaker 5: I'll be out of there. I probably. I'm we'll probably
- 54:00Speaker 5: go out to dinner.
- 54:02Speaker 2: Out the dinner you got have turkey and mashed potato.
- 54:06Speaker 2: Have that dinner?
- 54:07Speaker 5: Places you can go get sweet sweet potato cast role.
- 54:10Speaker 2: You can do that their places.
- 54:12Speaker 5: Sweet potato castro.
- 54:14Speaker 2: It's the best od J Pete.
- 54:17Speaker 5: What do you do for Thanksgiving?
- 54:19Speaker 2: I'll go over to a couple of friends houses. I
- 54:21Speaker 2: invited you over. You said no, you didn't invite me.
- 54:23Speaker 2: I when did you did not invite? I did to
- 54:26Speaker 2: invite me. When did you invite me? I literally invited
- 54:29Speaker 2: you ten days ago, already have plans. I didn't.
- 54:33Speaker 3: You said what you do for Thanksgiving? I said, I doing?
- 54:36Speaker 3: You didn't. Why don't you come to that.
- 54:38Speaker 4: He's going to be sitting in his in his in
- 54:40Speaker 4: his little easy chair with a little Swanson frozen turkey
- 54:44Speaker 4: dinner or remember those old turkey dinners that they used
- 54:46Speaker 4: to sell at the grocery.
- 54:47Speaker 2: Well, I disagree with Pete, I mean with JP's characterization
- 54:52Speaker 2: of it. But you are now officially invited they come
- 54:56Speaker 2: over for Thanksgiving dinner. I'm busy. See that's why I
- 54:59Speaker 2: said I got I got the heisman. Now you just
- 55:02Speaker 2: embarrassed me. Okay, I see how this is? Thirty people?
- 55:05Speaker 2: I mean, my gosh, a lot of good, A lot
- 55:07Speaker 2: of good.
- 55:09Speaker 5: Where do you sit? I mean they all sit. They
- 55:11Speaker 5: all sit the same table.
- 55:13Speaker 2: We have multiple tables. We have like love the kid's
- 55:17Speaker 2: table or at the adults table. Are you gonna put
- 55:19Speaker 2: the kid's table?
- 55:20Speaker 5: Your kids are all like forty now you're talking about
- 55:22Speaker 5: but there's still kids.
- 55:23Speaker 2: There's still so they don't if you, uh, you might
- 55:27Speaker 2: make the cutch ap. I'm trying to think who's all coming.
- 55:30Speaker 2: But if you're more than welcome Pe and if you
- 55:32Speaker 2: want to fly up for a late dinner, come on,
- 55:34Speaker 2: you're welcome. That would be entertaining. I love now and
- 55:38Speaker 2: it's the best. I love the fried turkey.
- 55:41Speaker 5: Thanks for you make the stuffing. That's what I want
- 55:43Speaker 5: to know.
- 55:44Speaker 2: It's a good question. My mother in law makes it,
- 55:46Speaker 2: bakes the turkey. Well, we have two. We have one
- 55:48Speaker 2: that you stuffed the bird, the baked bird, which is
- 55:51Speaker 2: very moist, very good, and then my wife makes a
- 55:53Speaker 2: big pan of She'll make one corn bread stuffing which
- 55:58Speaker 2: is very good, and then will make another more traditional stuff.
- 56:03Speaker 5: You must have leftovers for weeks in that house.
- 56:06Speaker 2: I will eat Thanksgiving dinner for I'm the only one
- 56:11Speaker 2: after like day two, my kids are. My wife and
- 56:13Speaker 2: kids are like, we're done. And I eat it four
- 56:16Speaker 2: or five days straight. I love it. You know, it's
- 56:18Speaker 2: really good.
- 56:18Speaker 5: The sandwich sandwich.
- 56:21Speaker 2: Get a little sandwich with white bread, white bread and
- 56:23Speaker 2: the dressing and the turkey on the mayonnaise. And I
- 56:27Speaker 2: like the cranberry. You know, it's really good.
- 56:29Speaker 3: If you take your dressing up a notch, put oysters
- 56:33Speaker 3: in there and bake the oysters in the dressing while.
- 56:36Speaker 4: It you know what the Italians used to put in it,
- 56:38Speaker 4: Italian sauces.
- 56:40Speaker 2: I like both those ideas.
- 56:41Speaker 5: See see yeah, yeah it's good.
- 56:45Speaker 4: It's you know, look which Okay, here's the last question
- 56:48Speaker 4: of thanks having which cranberry the stuff in the can
- 56:51Speaker 4: or the stuff with the real cranberries in it?
- 56:54Speaker 2: The above for me? Pass? You don't like cranberry, Pass,
- 56:57Speaker 2: love cranberry, so pete it depends. I will have both
- 57:02Speaker 2: of my plate because I enjoyed both. But for my sandwich,
- 57:06Speaker 2: the canned cranberry, because i'll slice it much better. I'll
- 57:09Speaker 2: slice it and put it on top of the turkey.
- 57:13Speaker 5: It's better anyways, but it's much better on the sand.
- 57:15Speaker 2: Oh, it's the best. And I don't like you more
- 57:18Speaker 2: coverage on your turkey. Well, I'm not sure how they
- 57:20Speaker 2: get it to be that gel. You don't want to know,
- 57:22Speaker 2: I don't think so, don't read the ingredients. But it
- 57:25Speaker 2: is so good.
- 57:27Speaker 4: You know, it's funny you say that because I saw
- 57:30Speaker 4: one of the places will Will you know they have
- 57:32Speaker 4: those around, But they're selling a sandwich that's like the
- 57:36Speaker 4: Thanksgiving sandwich. It's a Thanksgiving meal on the sandwich with
- 57:40Speaker 4: that exact stuff that you just said. It's got the turkey,
- 57:43Speaker 4: the stuff, and the cranberry, everything right on top of
- 57:46Speaker 4: the sandwich.
- 57:47Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a little mayo too. You gotta have
- 57:48Speaker 2: mayo on it, salt and pepper if not anyone cares.
- 57:52Speaker 2: But my sandwich is white bread, mayo, salt and pepper, turkey,
- 57:58Speaker 2: cranberry and that's it.
- 58:00Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
- 58:00Speaker 2: My wife likes having the stuffing if she makes me
- 58:02Speaker 2: want to eat it. But if I make my own
- 58:04Speaker 2: just to.
- 58:05Speaker 5: It's gotta be on a roll.
- 58:06Speaker 2: Though.
- 58:06Speaker 5: You can't have a white bread kidding me.
- 58:09Speaker 2: White pread makes it easy.
- 58:10Speaker 5: Perfect.
- 58:13Speaker 2: So so now now what Jaguars six to go? What
- 58:18Speaker 2: happens if they win? Question?
- 58:20Speaker 5: I want I want to ask this and I want
- 58:22Speaker 5: you guys to answer it.
- 58:23Speaker 4: Honestly, if you ask the majority of fans in Jacksonville
- 58:26Speaker 4: if they would rather have the number one overall pick
- 58:29Speaker 4: or win more games, what do you think they would say?
- 58:31Speaker 2: Fans would all say number one pick.
- 58:34Speaker 5: All of them to it to the majority of person.
- 58:38Speaker 2: Now if you're asking them on Twitter or an everything
- 58:42Speaker 2: on x is also they want they want at times
- 58:45Speaker 2: burn everything down to pitchforks around the pitchforks are out,
- 58:48Speaker 2: so I think most unfortunately, at least the fans, at
- 58:53Speaker 2: least the fans on X in my timeline, in the
- 58:59Speaker 2: in the mentions eye get are focused on first overall,
- 59:03Speaker 2: pick and they're coming for people and heads roll heads wrong.
- 59:08Speaker 2: So right or wrong, that's where they are.
- 59:13Speaker 4: But and they'll probably be. Honestly, I don't usually agree
- 59:17Speaker 4: with the fans a lot of time. I love the fans,
- 59:18Speaker 4: but I don't know a lot of times I don't
- 59:20Speaker 4: agree with them in this scenario.
- 59:21Speaker 5: They might be right.
- 59:26Speaker 2: Now, but I mean, if you're a player in the
- 59:28Speaker 2: locker room, you want to win. You're trying to win
- 59:31Speaker 2: the game whatever.
- 59:32Speaker 4: You want to You want to go out there and
- 59:33Speaker 4: you want to play well and you want to win period.
- 59:35Speaker 5: You don't care about next year, the year after that.
- 59:37Speaker 2: This is about you.
- 59:39Speaker 4: You want to go out if you're if you're Brian Thomas,
- 59:41Speaker 4: you want to go out and catch ten passes for
- 59:43Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty yards and win. Anybody wants to win.
- 59:48Speaker 4: That's that's understandable. Nobody, nobody could blame any player at
- 59:53Speaker 4: all if they didn't, if they weren't going out there
- 59:55Speaker 4: playing to win, is what you're supposed to do.
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: Listen, you can't tank in the.
- 1:00:02Speaker 5: Can you get hurt?
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: Right?
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: And those guys they're they're playing for Like you said, Pete,
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: it's the personal thing.
- 1:00:08Speaker 5: Those guys.
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: Most of those guys don't have guaranteed contracts, like the
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: film matters, what you do matters, like they're.
- 1:00:13Speaker 5: Gonna go hard. I'm with you, Tony, you go play.
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: But but I say, in the grand scheme of things,
- 1:00:18Speaker 4: the majority of people outside the players and the coaches
- 1:00:22Speaker 4: would rather have the number one overall pick than some
- 1:00:25Speaker 4: crappy two wins down the stretch.
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, so I'd agree with you, Pete. I
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: think coaches and players don't care about the pick who
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: you're picking, like they don't care. They're they're worried about
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: trying to win a football game and keep jobs.
- 1:00:42Speaker 3: But they're still mathematically in it. When they're mathematically out
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: of it.
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: Does that it does not.
- 1:00:50Speaker 5: Win always want to win.
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: But that might change around me and twelve going into
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: the last game my rookie year. Yeah, and I'm pretty
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: sure if we would have lost that people, we might
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: have had the number one overall pick number two. There's
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: only one pick better than too that's number one, number one.
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: But if you would have asked me, if if he
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: would ask me, he's like, hey, do you you know
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: if you lose, you get to the number one pick.
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: My response is, I don't care.
- 1:01:19Speaker 5: You would have yelled at me get out of here
- 1:01:22Speaker 5: with that.
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care, Like I want to win a
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: football game, like the amount of work you put in
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: as a player and as a coach. I'm sorry, Pete.
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: Can we do the Besseli impression again? Get what are
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: you talking about?
- 1:01:35Speaker 5: Get out of here. You're stupid. You're being stupid, Pete.
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: He sounds just likencanny. It's pretty good, Pete. It's pretty good.
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: That's well done. I can't I got nothing, no come back.
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: But they don't care. They don't care about what pick like,
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: they just want to win because like these guys, these
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: coaches and players put too much time into it. And
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: if you, if you put if you, if you invest
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: all that time, Pete, and then.
- 1:02:05Speaker 5: You lose, it's just miserable.
- 1:02:08Speaker 4: But I will say this, part of me, part of
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: me wants them to lose every game because I want
- 1:02:13Speaker 4: to see a franchise have the first number one overall pick.
- 1:02:16Speaker 5: For you three times in five years.
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: It would have never happened in league history.
- 1:02:22Speaker 5: God, when you think about that.
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: It's not that funny, Pete, it is.
- 1:02:28Speaker 5: You gotta laugh at the misery of it. Yes, it is.
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it gallows before we go to break,
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: I got something. I'm gonna lock something right now. Oh
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: I thought we were done with locks? Is hold on now? Ready?
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: I lock right now? Get ready, Joey come back? No
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: right now? No, we'll do when I come back, because
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: I want to make sure that Joey's ready. That's a
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: good boy.
- 1:02:49Speaker 5: That's a tease, j P. Did you tease?
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: I know, I got, I got where you go and tease.
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: I didn't want to tease it. I wanted to come
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: out strong and just make a statement and shock everyone
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: as we went to break. But I don't think joe.
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: In fact, we could probably hold this until you know,
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: about five forty five doing it.
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: We're doing it next segment, before we take the moment,
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: before we take fan questions. We can't wait.
- 1:03:12Speaker 4: I mean, if it's if it's nothing more than guaranteeing
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: and win, who cares.
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's a big build up for Let
- 1:03:18Speaker 3: me tell you why this is a seasonal lock.
- 1:03:22Speaker 5: Big Captain Sunshine Rainbows up there.
- 1:03:29Speaker 3: Let's get this commercial break out of the way and
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: get back so we can hear this lock from Tony
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: was selling. It's jack Wars Happy Hour presented by mister
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: Chubby's Wings.
- 1:03:45Speaker 5: I mean, we got to keep working.
- 1:03:46Speaker 6: We gotta keep we gotta keep you know, trying to
- 1:03:49Speaker 6: put our as a staff, put our players in position
- 1:03:52Speaker 6: to make plays on the field, and then ultimately the players,
- 1:03:55Speaker 6: you know, execute the game plan. And again last week
- 1:04:00Speaker 6: was about, you know, trying to find ways to do that,
- 1:04:03Speaker 6: and you know, we're gonna we're gonna implement some things
- 1:04:06Speaker 6: and really kind of get back to some things that
- 1:04:08Speaker 6: I think we're successful to have been successful for us,
- 1:04:13Speaker 6: and you know, uh, whether it's you know, rhythm, tempo, whatever,
- 1:04:20Speaker 6: you know, to try to try to get things going.
- 1:04:22Speaker 6: But ultimately, we just got to we got to focus
- 1:04:25Speaker 6: as a staff, as players and just just continue to
- 1:04:29Speaker 6: do our jobs.
- 1:04:30Speaker 3: That's the head coach Doug petersond the full press conference
- 1:04:33Speaker 3: at Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube from earlier today.
- 1:04:36Speaker 3: Welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour JP Shadrick, Tony Boselli.
- 1:04:41Speaker 3: We're at the Hyundai Studios of the Miller Electric Center.
- 1:04:43Speaker 3: Pete Prisco is not he's down in South Florida, CBS
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: Sports Senior writer.
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: So next year, Pete, I want you to figure out
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: your camp schedule. And we have a long time to
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: do this, but we need you to have a camp
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: schedule where you're we do the show one time, the
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: three of us in the studio. Oh yes, and we'll
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: just we'll play. So we'll get the schedule where you're
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: here on a Monday during camp and we'll do the show.
- 1:05:07Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good. I'll do that.
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that. We'll hold you to that, and
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: people do it. He always comes up here. He's always
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: got to plan it proper.
- 1:05:15Speaker 5: I usually come early though, and we don't start.
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: But we're gonna that's why you're gonna change it. You're
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: gonna come late. We should come both, like early and late.
- 1:05:23Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'll come. We'll do that next year.
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be fun. That sounds like a plan to me. Now, Okay,
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: we've got questions coming out.
- 1:05:30Speaker 5: Come on, let's get to the lock.
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: We fanatics fan questions coming up in a moment. However, Tony,
- 1:05:35Speaker 3: you've built up this lock like it's the biggest lock
- 1:05:38Speaker 3: you've ever had. I don't know what this is about
- 1:05:40Speaker 3: to come out of your mouth. I have no idea.
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: It's gonna be a little disappointing. But my lock is this.
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: I guarantee you we will not have the first pick,
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: meaning we are going to win at least two games,
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: because right now we're the worst record. I think everyone
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: else has three? Are we the only team with two?
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: I believes what the Giants doing? The Giants have three.
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: I believe.
- 1:06:06Speaker 4: Right now the NFL draft order, Jacksonville's Giants have two wins.
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: Okay, So I guarantee. So I'm just gonna guarantee head
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: to head, by the way, in a few weeks, I
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: guarantee you, Pete, we will not be the first team
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: in NFL her history to have the number one overall pick.
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: Three out of five years. You can lock it, take
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: it to the bank.
- 1:06:32Speaker 5: That's too bad, because that's it's better to have it. Man.
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: I wasn't saying my preference. I'm just saying I just
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: don't see this team. You think they're gonna win some games.
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: I think they're gonna win games. I don't know if
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: I think.
- 1:06:51Speaker 4: They beat it, even if they beat the Giants, that
- 1:06:53Speaker 4: would probably take the Giants out of it, because I
- 1:06:55Speaker 4: don't think here, here's the here's the Giants schedule you ready?
- 1:07:00Speaker 4: I mean the Giant schedule is Dallas this week at Dallas.
- 1:07:06Speaker 5: When or not.
- 1:07:09Speaker 7: Saints home loss, Ravens home loss, at Falcons loss home
- 1:07:18Speaker 7: against the Colts loss, and then at Philly.
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they win again.
- 1:07:24Speaker 5: And if the Eagles don't need nothing, need that game
- 1:07:27Speaker 5: for anything, do.
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: You think Tommy Tommy DeVito stays as the quarterback. I
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: can't believe they're not going to Drew Drew Locke.
- 1:07:33Speaker 5: Because there's incentives in this contract.
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: You know that Cutlets, Tommy Cutlets.
- 1:07:38Speaker 4: Don't care about when they're trying to get the first
- 1:07:39Speaker 4: overall pick. They're the smart team.
- 1:07:43Speaker 5: But you're probably right.
- 1:07:45Speaker 4: The Giants probably don't win another game. So so Jackson
- 1:07:48Speaker 4: might win one or two.
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: I think they win three, three or six.
- 1:07:57Speaker 5: Well they could. Let's let's say, okay, could they beat
- 1:07:59Speaker 5: the Texans? Sure?
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: Will?
- 1:08:00Speaker 5: They probably not? Go ahead? What's this then? Go through
- 1:08:02Speaker 5: the schedule JP.
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give it to you. The Titans, they're gonna
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: they're gonna.
- 1:08:06Speaker 5: At least minimum split with the bare.
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: Minimum split the Titans, right, Yeah, Texans this week at
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: Titans home against the Jets, they're gonna beat the Jets,
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: and the Jets are terrible. At the Raiders, they're gonna
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: beat the Raiders.
- 1:08:19Speaker 3: They're terrible home against So it's it's it's Desmond Ritter
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: as your starting quarterback and Raiders.
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: Did he get hurt?
- 1:08:28Speaker 5: Yeah, he focused clavial.
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: And then home against Tennessee week seventeen. Yeah, they're gonna
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: split the Tennessee games. And then at the Colts. Yeah.
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: I think the Colts, I think are going to be
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: playing for something.
- 1:08:43Speaker 5: What if what if they ran the table? It's not happening,
- 1:08:48Speaker 5: but what if they did the Jaguars and we get him?
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:08:50Speaker 5: What would that get him to?
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: That would get eight wins? Eight nine?
- 1:08:54Speaker 5: Eight? Might get in actually as the last wildcard team.
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
- 1:08:58Speaker 3: Now, all of a sudden, Pete, you're saying what we've
- 1:09:00Speaker 3: been saying for an hour and twenty.
- 1:09:02Speaker 5: Running the table. They're gonna lose more than they win.
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: A way they're gonna do it. It doesn't matter. They're
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: gonna walk. Will you lock six straight wins?
- 1:09:11Speaker 5: Hell?
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: No, I think this see I'm just telling you I
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: think they I think the they're gonna win three games
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: at least. If Trevor doesn't play anymore this year, they're
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: not gonna win another game. They're done. I shouldn't say
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: that's mean to mac Jones. There's nothing I've seen with
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: mac Jones.
- 1:09:30Speaker 5: It's not mean, it's reality. It's a football evaluation, not
- 1:09:33Speaker 5: being mean.
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: I just I've seen nothing offensively with mac Jones at
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: quarterback that gives me any confidence that they can get
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: anything going.
- 1:09:40Speaker 5: He throws it out of bounds a lot.
- 1:09:43Speaker 3: And so, depending on the scenario, okay, better than the alternative.
- 1:09:52Speaker 4: It's just funny how it went from like before he
- 1:09:55Speaker 4: ever played there getting something.
- 1:09:58Speaker 5: A mistake.
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: I made a mistake. I mean, listen, you told me,
- 1:10:04Speaker 2: you told me, you told me Christian Ponder was going
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: to be an All Pro quarterback.
- 1:10:08Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a bad evaluation. You had already seen mac
- 1:10:11Speaker 5: Jones play. I got an even worse one.
- 1:10:14Speaker 4: Logan Ryan, the former Patriot, works with us on Sunday,
- 1:10:17Speaker 4: the week mac Jones was starting.
- 1:10:19Speaker 5: He was trying to say that he was better than
- 1:10:21Speaker 5: Trevor Lauren.
- 1:10:23Speaker 3: Gosh, guys, let's get some fanatics fan questions now so
- 1:10:26Speaker 3: we can get a two for the price of one
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- 1:10:31Speaker 3: games game, there was no game, so we'll get double.
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- 1:10:47Speaker 3: CAC signal out early. Here's the best we've come up
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: with at totally chat. If Trevor comes back this week
- 1:10:53Speaker 3: and the Jaguars beat the Texans, are we back?
- 1:10:56Speaker 5: What does back?
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: Meat? No, you're three?
- 1:10:59Speaker 5: No, you're three and nine.
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: How's that?
- 1:11:01Speaker 5: Best seasons? The season's been in? Just a failure? No,
- 1:11:07Speaker 5: pete does it.
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to your question. If you win
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: six straight. I'm not saying they're going to but if
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: you win six straight, what does that do for you?
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: Evaluating the season, in the building and the organization, staff, everybody,
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: what does that do for you? Does that change anything
- 1:11:24Speaker 2: you feel for me? Yeah?
- 1:11:28Speaker 4: No, okay, no, but what if they Now, if they
- 1:11:32Speaker 4: won six straight and got into the postseason and won
- 1:11:34Speaker 4: a couple of games, that would change something.
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: I think I'm just forget about we don't know about posseason, but.
- 1:11:40Speaker 3: This is one six straight with the roster they have
- 1:11:42Speaker 3: right now, with all the injuries they're dealing with, what.
- 1:11:44Speaker 5: If we stop?
- 1:11:45Speaker 2: What injuries? What injuries are the The whole defense is healthy,
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: they have no injury.
- 1:11:52Speaker 5: Well, the second round pick has a bad angle, wink wink.
- 1:11:55Speaker 5: What injury they have?
- 1:11:56Speaker 2: Christian Kirk on offense? Yeah, and et should be coming back?
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: What injuries we should be coming back for the year.
- 1:12:06Speaker 5: Robinson got hurt yesterday?
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: Did he really?
- 1:12:09Speaker 5: I don't think it was everybody. I don't think it
- 1:12:10Speaker 5: was major, but he got He did nothing when he
- 1:12:13Speaker 5: was helping.
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: Tell he's a starter on offense. To Davis talking about
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: he's trying to sell me game, telling you there's no injuries.
- 1:12:20Speaker 5: Stop there's an injury.
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: Okay, urts out for the year. That's two injuries. That's
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: nothing compared to the rest. The Detroit Lions lost their
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: best player on defense. Yes, and they're ten and one.
- 1:12:36Speaker 4: Hey gave Davis. This is the first game gave. Davis
- 1:12:39Speaker 4: has been out, by the way.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: And for you and for you to say injuries, this
- 1:12:43Speaker 2: team is not injured compared to the rest of the league.
- 1:12:48Speaker 2: You want to look at injuries. Go look at the
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: forty nine ers. Let me reword it.
- 1:12:51Speaker 3: If they get out of their own way and win
- 1:12:53Speaker 3: six games, that's a fair point.
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: That's fine.
- 1:12:56Speaker 5: That just got games, which is which isn't happening.
- 1:13:01Speaker 4: Then they probably could make the postseason as then it
- 1:13:06Speaker 4: changes the narrative, But it doesn't change.
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: The narrative for you, Pete. You're still running everybody out
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: of here.
- 1:13:10Speaker 4: This is funny how one bye week washes the stink
- 1:13:15Speaker 4: off from the worst loss in the history of the franchise.
- 1:13:18Speaker 5: Because do you remember the last time they played football?
- 1:13:21Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Sody, I'm not I'm not doing with JP.
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: JP was making excuses. Pize the one that said they're
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: gonna win six in a row.
- 1:13:30Speaker 4: I've had multiple Pece, They're right, they're not gonna win
- 1:13:32Speaker 4: three of the last six.
- 1:13:34Speaker 5: How about that luck.
- 1:13:35Speaker 3: That of the last six it'll be less than that
- 1:13:41Speaker 3: for Pete people.
- 1:13:43Speaker 4: But if they're lucky, they won't win any of them
- 1:13:44Speaker 4: will have the number one overall.
- 1:13:46Speaker 2: That's people like, tell me I'm wrong though, or correct
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong, because I've heard that someone else
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: said this to me, And JP just said, well, this
- 1:13:55Speaker 2: teams so injured. If you compare this to other teams
- 1:13:59Speaker 2: in the league, they're not very injured at all. You
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: have all eleven defenders on the field. You're missing on offense.
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: How many games have starters missed? Etn missed two, Lawrence
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: miss two, left guard miss left guard missed one, Kirk
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: missed Fox four three. That's not a lot of starts
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: if you look at I mean, like, yeah, the offense
- 1:14:28Speaker 2: has been beat up. When you lose your quarterback, that's huge,
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: no doubt about that.
- 1:14:32Speaker 4: And by the way, with Etn, it's still debatable whether
- 1:14:34Speaker 4: he's the number one back.
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: Any fair enough, but defensively outside of Tyson Campbell early
- 1:14:41Speaker 2: tell me what like, yeah, you're right, you're right, I'm wrong,
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: you're right. Thank you. That's all I need here. They
- 1:14:46Speaker 2: can move on. Question, that's that's bad tea.
- 1:14:51Speaker 5: It's a bad team.
- 1:14:52Speaker 2: Next bad team.
- 1:14:53Speaker 4: But look at the bright side, you probably draft a
- 1:14:55Speaker 4: running back in a third round.
- 1:14:56Speaker 5: Add another one.
- 1:14:57Speaker 2: That's thanks Pete at sick night.
- 1:14:59Speaker 3: Well, I was Mike Caldwell fire is the DC when
- 1:15:01Speaker 3: his unit was the main reason they started off last season.
- 1:15:04Speaker 2: Well, so let me frame this question because it's a
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: fair question. If you look at the when they were
- 1:15:09Speaker 2: eight and three. The defense was having some issues, but
- 1:15:14Speaker 2: they were making up over because they were getting turnovers
- 1:15:16Speaker 2: in bunches and they were getting off the field. And
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: then the turnover stopped and the music stopped and they
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: were lost six to seven is basically how this went down.
- 1:15:34Speaker 2: But when they were losing late, there was a lot
- 1:15:39Speaker 2: of blown coverage and blown assignment play like it was
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: just not it was ugly explosives kind of like this year.
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: Well now they leaves I believe, or they're one of
- 1:15:49Speaker 2: the worst team in giving up explosives. But the question
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: is not fair because I mean not unfair because the
- 1:15:55Speaker 2: first half of that season that defense was making things
- 1:15:58Speaker 2: happen by by being ballhawks and turning it over.
- 1:16:02Speaker 4: Well, they went from a bad situation to a worse
- 1:16:06Speaker 4: one basically. I mean, look, Mike Calwell, the feeling was
- 1:16:11Speaker 4: he was wasn't ready for that, was wasn't wasn't the
- 1:16:14Speaker 4: guy for the job. So you make a change and
- 1:16:17Speaker 4: you go get another guy who clearly is it the
- 1:16:20Speaker 4: guy for the job. I mean, let's rotate another fourteen
- 1:16:24Speaker 4: guys in on the field. So I just think I
- 1:16:28Speaker 4: think that the whole thing is a disaster. When it
- 1:16:30Speaker 4: comes to the defense. And you know, you look at
- 1:16:34Speaker 4: that defense, you normally you would say Tony and you
- 1:16:36Speaker 4: would agree this. You got two good defensive ends. You're
- 1:16:41Speaker 4: gonna have an impact on the offense at some point.
- 1:16:44Speaker 4: But because they can't stop the run, because they're not
- 1:16:47Speaker 4: good in the middle, because they give up so many busts,
- 1:16:49Speaker 4: they don't and they're good players. Trayvon Walker's a good look.
- 1:16:53Speaker 4: I'm critical to pick. They should have taken a hunches in,
- 1:16:55Speaker 4: but Traymon Walker's a good football player. Josh Heinz Allen's
- 1:16:58Speaker 4: a really good football You're not get the sack numbers,
- 1:17:00Speaker 4: but he's a good football player. But because they can't
- 1:17:04Speaker 4: stop the run, it's and they're bad right up the middle.
- 1:17:08Speaker 4: Think about it. They're bad all the way up the middle.
- 1:17:10Speaker 4: They're not good up the middle.
- 1:17:11Speaker 2: We've talked about it. Aren't good.
- 1:17:12Speaker 5: The linebackers aren't good in the safeties of my bad right.
- 1:17:16Speaker 2: I mean pens points right. When you can't stop the run,
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: it's really hard to play defense.
- 1:17:19Speaker 3: Let's get one more question then fanatics fan question and
- 1:17:23Speaker 3: it is from at sam I am sheer one. What
- 1:17:26Speaker 3: are the PFF by week grades? Any hope for US fans.
- 1:17:32Speaker 5: I mean, is that seasonal grades.
- 1:17:34Speaker 2: I think they're asking for the season. I think they're
- 1:17:35Speaker 2: looking at what in the year's passed. We did a review,
- 1:17:38Speaker 2: but I didn't want to do it this year. I
- 1:17:40Speaker 2: think they were being the smart alect is what I
- 1:17:41Speaker 2: think you think, So that's what I think.
- 1:17:44Speaker 5: I don't I think they really want the grades.
- 1:17:46Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna look them up and you tell
- 1:17:49Speaker 4: me what you think about the highest graded players on
- 1:17:52Speaker 4: this team. Who do you think the highest graded player
- 1:17:55Speaker 4: on offenses for the year.
- 1:17:57Speaker 2: On offense, I'm gonna say Brian Thomas Jr.
- 1:18:04Speaker 5: He's second, Trevor's first. Who's the highest?
- 1:18:09Speaker 4: Cam Robinson is still the highest rated offensive lineman, but
- 1:18:12Speaker 4: that's not good. Behind him Ezra Cleveland and then Sheriff
- 1:18:19Speaker 4: and then way down is uh?
- 1:18:22Speaker 5: The center hasn't The last couple of games for the
- 1:18:25Speaker 5: center haven't been great.
- 1:18:25Speaker 2: Mitch Morse, how about defense?
- 1:18:27Speaker 5: There's your offense? Aw about defense?
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: I think did the I would say the two highest
- 1:18:31Speaker 2: are the two ends, and mind consider the defense overall.
- 1:18:37Speaker 4: Josh Heinz Allen's number one, Devin Lloyd is number two,
- 1:18:43Speaker 4: and I think that has something to do with his
- 1:18:44Speaker 4: run defense. But Lui con is number three and Trayvon
- 1:18:47Speaker 4: Walker's number five, really four because Braswell's number four and
- 1:18:51Speaker 4: he had played.
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: Can hurt for a little bit? Yeah, okay, there's another.
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: Are they healthy?
- 1:19:00Speaker 5: He's back. You were saying they got if.
- 1:19:02Speaker 2: They can win because they're so beat up, and that's not.
- 1:19:05Speaker 5: True, right Jape. You name a player, he's gonna say
- 1:19:08Speaker 5: he was hurt.
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not talking about the past, talking about now,
- 1:19:13Speaker 2: talking about moving forward.
- 1:19:15Speaker 3: Speaking of moving forward, let's come back and do that
- 1:19:17Speaker 3: and we'll actually we'll look back while we move forward.
- 1:19:20Speaker 3: All at the same time, we'll go around the NFL
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- 1:20:37Speaker 3: and we start off with Thursday, the Browns over the
- 1:20:41Speaker 3: stealing a game twenty four to nineteen, the snow Globe game.
- 1:20:45Speaker 3: Pete hated it.
- 1:20:46Speaker 2: I called him out on x Yeah.
- 1:20:49Speaker 5: It look, it becomes a survival test. It's not football.
- 1:20:52Speaker 5: It's crap.
- 1:20:53Speaker 2: No, that's football, pure football.
- 1:20:56Speaker 5: You know it's not you know, he.
- 1:20:57Speaker 2: Reminded, Uh, Kurt Warner has similar feelings to you about
- 1:21:04Speaker 2: games played in the elements.
- 1:21:06Speaker 5: He's smart. He's a smart Manaker Warner.
- 1:21:08Speaker 4: By the way, the Browns are considering a new stadium
- 1:21:11Speaker 4: in the process and where they might put in.
- 1:21:13Speaker 2: They want to put a roof.
- 1:21:15Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it.
- 1:21:16Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna see no more snow games other
- 1:21:19Speaker 4: than in Buffalo because they won't put a rum.
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: You know why. Kurt Warner says, I never asked him
- 1:21:23Speaker 2: about this, but I mean he played arena football and
- 1:21:25Speaker 2: then he played in Saint Louis in the Dome. Well,
- 1:21:28Speaker 2: I want to be careful because I remember hearing the
- 1:21:30Speaker 2: second I read it somewhere, and so I think, and
- 1:21:33Speaker 2: that's why.
- 1:21:34Speaker 3: The success in both places indoors so and I could
- 1:21:36Speaker 3: be wrong because I.
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: Think it's a quarterback obviously.
- 1:21:38Speaker 4: Then he played in Arizona tractable room. Well, yeah, because
- 1:21:43Speaker 4: it's football. You get to throw the ball around. It's
- 1:21:45Speaker 4: not a survival test. That's crazy.
- 1:21:46Speaker 2: That was football too.
- 1:21:47Speaker 5: That's that game.
- 1:21:50Speaker 2: In the element. I wish there was no covering some
- 1:21:55Speaker 2: football them all outside of Jacksonville in September.
- 1:22:00Speaker 4: Well, how come when it's one hundred and twenty degrees
- 1:22:02Speaker 4: out and they're playing in South Florida.
- 1:22:03Speaker 5: Nobody ever says that game is supposed to be playing
- 1:22:05Speaker 5: in the elements.
- 1:22:07Speaker 2: Elements, that is the elements.
- 1:22:10Speaker 5: It's awful.
- 1:22:11Speaker 2: It's a break, okay, terrible. One of these days I'm
- 1:22:16Speaker 2: actually listen, I'm being a hypocrite because I'm excited about
- 1:22:18Speaker 2: the new stadium here having a roof over it into
- 1:22:21Speaker 2: being in the shade. So I'm a little bit of
- 1:22:22Speaker 2: a hypocrite there. However, I did enjoy watching Thursday Night's
- 1:22:26Speaker 2: Great Television, Great Team, and I thought it was a
- 1:22:30Speaker 2: It was a very interesting game in Pete. I want
- 1:22:33Speaker 2: your opinion. I think you'll agree with me. Maybe some
- 1:22:35Speaker 2: of the worst game management by Tomlin at the end
- 1:22:38Speaker 2: of that game.
- 1:22:40Speaker 5: Would you have what would you have done in that scenario?
- 1:22:42Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I use my timeouts better so
- 1:22:44Speaker 2: I'd have more time.
- 1:22:45Speaker 5: The timeouts were terrible.
- 1:22:47Speaker 4: What would you have done on the would you have
- 1:22:48Speaker 4: declined the pedaltryo?
- 1:22:51Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:22:51Speaker 5: Yeah, I would have too. Here's the other part of it.
- 1:22:54Speaker 5: The NFL botched the rule.
- 1:22:56Speaker 4: The call because just because the ball touches an offensive
- 1:23:00Speaker 4: linement doesn't make it illegal touching. It makes it because
- 1:23:03Speaker 4: otherwise you just throw it at an alignment every time
- 1:23:06Speaker 4: when you're getting when you're getting pressured, and therefore it
- 1:23:08Speaker 4: overrides the They acted like that overrode the intentional grounding.
- 1:23:12Speaker 4: If it's intentional grounding gets a loss of down. It's
- 1:23:14Speaker 4: fourth down, no matter what. Remember they ruled that it
- 1:23:18Speaker 4: was illegal touching.
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: So let me tell you why. This is why I
- 1:23:21Speaker 2: believe they did that because he got hit. Because he's
- 1:23:24Speaker 2: be getting hit and so it impacted the trajectory of
- 1:23:27Speaker 2: the football. And so what I'm just.
- 1:23:31Speaker 5: Saying, so that that's why they.
- 1:23:33Speaker 2: That's the rule. But that is the rule. That's a
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: judgment call. If a quarterback's getting hit and it sends
- 1:23:39Speaker 2: the ball off, he guys no control, then the intentional
- 1:23:44Speaker 2: it's not intentional grounding any loong.
- 1:23:46Speaker 4: I agree most of the time, if a guy's getting hit,
- 1:23:48Speaker 4: it is not intentional grounding.
- 1:23:49Speaker 5: The ball flies somewhere else. He was throwing it there.
- 1:23:52Speaker 2: I disagree. I think it's a judgment call. It doesn't matter,
- 1:23:57Speaker 2: but it did matter, would have been fourth No, No, he doesn't.
- 1:24:01Speaker 2: It's I don't think they broke the rules. My point,
- 1:24:03Speaker 2: Steelers gonna win the division. You look at that, You
- 1:24:07Speaker 2: look at the Steels schedule, Pete tough. They got a
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: tough schedule down the stretch.
- 1:24:13Speaker 5: And they're flawed.
- 1:24:14Speaker 4: I mean, you know, when we think of the Pittsburgh Steels,
- 1:24:16Speaker 4: what do you think about run the ball, play good
- 1:24:19Speaker 4: defense and pass rush right, yep. They were average four
- 1:24:22Speaker 4: yards per carry it going into last week, so they're
- 1:24:24Speaker 4: not a great running team. And there's middle of the
- 1:24:27Speaker 4: pack in sacks per game, so they're not a great
- 1:24:29Speaker 4: pass rushing team. So they don't we know, they don't
- 1:24:32Speaker 4: throw it that well, so they're not a great throwing team.
- 1:24:34Speaker 2: So what do they do?
- 1:24:34Speaker 5: Well, they're well coached, that's what they do.
- 1:24:37Speaker 2: Bengals, Browns, Eagles, Ravens, Chiefs, Bengals. That's the Steelers schedule
- 1:24:42Speaker 2: the rest of the way.
- 1:24:43Speaker 5: And the team nobody wants in is the Bengals. You
- 1:24:45Speaker 5: don't want them in.
- 1:24:46Speaker 2: Well, no one wants to play them down the stretch either.
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: Chiefs over the Panthers thirty to twenty seven. Closer than
- 1:24:52Speaker 2: I thought than anybody thought. The Chiefs are flawed.
- 1:24:55Speaker 4: Pete very much so. And they they went and got
- 1:24:58Speaker 4: a left tackle. DJ Humphreys is coming, so that's good
- 1:25:01Speaker 4: for them. They need a left tack.
- 1:25:03Speaker 2: How'd they get them?
- 1:25:04Speaker 5: Well, he's on the.
- 1:25:05Speaker 4: Street because he got a torn acl last year and
- 1:25:07Speaker 4: he's now healthy back ready to go, so that's important.
- 1:25:11Speaker 5: But they're flawed. You're right, they're not great on they're
- 1:25:13Speaker 5: not great in the quarterback position.
- 1:25:15Speaker 4: That's been a you know, they had injuries there and
- 1:25:16Speaker 4: that's been a concern of theirs.
- 1:25:19Speaker 3: Vikings over the Bears, who scored seventeen to fourth quarter
- 1:25:22Speaker 3: points to tie the game with no time left on
- 1:25:25Speaker 3: a field goal and then lost in overtime to the
- 1:25:27Speaker 3: Vikings thirty to twenty seven.
- 1:25:30Speaker 5: And Caleb Williams was better, He was much better.
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: What happens to Chicago with Everflu's coaching change.
- 1:25:38Speaker 4: They make a change. You know, here's the thing about
- 1:25:41Speaker 4: the Vikings. The Vikings went out on the road, didn't
- 1:25:43Speaker 4: play particularly well in any of those games, starting three
- 1:25:47Speaker 4: straight road games.
- 1:25:48Speaker 5: That's hard to do in the NFL.
- 1:25:49Speaker 4: They went and one at Jacksonville, went and one at Tennessee,
- 1:25:51Speaker 4: and then went and one at at Chicago.
- 1:25:53Speaker 5: It's hard to do. They did it.
- 1:25:55Speaker 2: So what's their record now? Pete eight?
- 1:26:00Speaker 5: Yeah, why do I don't think that?
- 1:26:03Speaker 2: Why do I get the feeling that it's gonna be
- 1:26:05Speaker 2: one and done for them in the playoffs?
- 1:26:07Speaker 5: I tend to agree with you.
- 1:26:09Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's the team everyone wants to play in
- 1:26:12Speaker 2: the playoffs. The Vikings line them up.
- 1:26:16Speaker 5: You believe in Sam Donald. That's the question.
- 1:26:18Speaker 2: That's Tony. Does I know Tony, my guy. Tony's all
- 1:26:22Speaker 2: about some Sam Dark Big Sam Donald fan huge. That's
- 1:26:25Speaker 2: see baby Big Caleb williamsan too, I see apparently so.
- 1:26:29Speaker 2: Titans over the Texans. We've discussed that thirty two to twenty.
- 1:26:32Speaker 2: That would surprise me. I did not see that coming.
- 1:26:35Speaker 4: Will let us play good except for one stupid pass
- 1:26:37Speaker 4: where he got picked.
- 1:26:38Speaker 2: Sixth isn't that every week though, Pete.
- 1:26:41Speaker 5: Yeah, that was this one. But he got eat sacks
- 1:26:44Speaker 5: in the first half. His line's really bad, by the way.
- 1:26:49Speaker 3: Lions over the Colts twenty four to six. We've discussed that.
- 1:26:53Speaker 3: The Dolphins over the Patriots thirty four to fifteen. It
- 1:26:56Speaker 3: wasn't even that close. Patriots scored fifty.
- 1:26:58Speaker 4: By the way. Let's let's give I'm gonna give to
- 1:27:01Speaker 4: us some credit because the guys come back off that injury.
- 1:27:03Speaker 5: And he's been outstanding. But now he's got to prove
- 1:27:08Speaker 5: a game that we all know.
- 1:27:10Speaker 4: The Dolphins are good when they're playing at home or
- 1:27:12Speaker 4: playing in the warm weather. But now you got to
- 1:27:14Speaker 4: go to Green Bay at Thursday night, it's supposed to
- 1:27:16Speaker 4: be snowing.
- 1:27:19Speaker 2: You're gonna have to imagine that I.
- 1:27:22Speaker 4: Don't mind a little bit of snow, because you know
- 1:27:24Speaker 4: what that a little bit of snow makes it offensive football.
- 1:27:27Speaker 5: I don't mind that.
- 1:27:28Speaker 4: But when it's a when it's you can't even see
- 1:27:30Speaker 4: the field, that's terrible.
- 1:27:31Speaker 3: But they have the anti freeze at Lambeau. It's not
- 1:27:33Speaker 3: like you're gonna have snow in the field, Pete. Like
- 1:27:35Speaker 3: it's gonna melt off if anti freeze, like through the
- 1:27:39Speaker 3: underneath stuff you put in your car.
- 1:27:41Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's a whole system, a warming system under
- 1:27:44Speaker 2: the field. So like anti freeze from your so I guess,
- 1:27:47Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:27:47Speaker 4: I don't think so so they've had on that field
- 1:27:51Speaker 4: in the past.
- 1:27:51Speaker 2: I don't think that, let's come back, we.
- 1:27:55Speaker 5: Get that.
- 1:27:57Speaker 2: I don't know. It's terrible, how about Pete? People out
- 1:28:04Speaker 2: there at least I saw an X and I think
- 1:28:06Speaker 2: they're Boston people calling for Jardoe's job already.
- 1:28:10Speaker 5: That's it's that's crazy. I mean, that's crazy.
- 1:28:14Speaker 2: It wasn't like it wasn't like he was dealt the
- 1:28:17Speaker 2: most talented roster either.
- 1:28:19Speaker 5: But here's the other thing about it.
- 1:28:21Speaker 4: Though he says some things like once I get on
- 1:28:23Speaker 4: the field, it's out of my hands, why would you
- 1:28:25Speaker 4: even say that, Well.
- 1:28:27Speaker 2: You and I would agree with that, Jimmy's and Joe's.
- 1:28:29Speaker 2: At that point you call the play. They gotta go
- 1:28:31Speaker 2: ask you.
- 1:28:32Speaker 5: I know, but you can't say there's certain things that
- 1:28:34Speaker 5: are taking it out. You're taking it off yourself.
- 1:28:37Speaker 2: That's right and there and JP there's certain things that
- 1:28:40Speaker 2: are true, but you still don't say what to the
- 1:28:43Speaker 2: press like that, Like Gerard Well, he said, it's like
- 1:28:46Speaker 2: out of my hands. You just don't say that, even
- 1:28:48Speaker 2: though it's true at some level, right, it just is
- 1:28:51Speaker 2: not a good look.
- 1:28:52Speaker 5: It is true at some level.
- 1:28:53Speaker 4: But then you also the players that people could sit
- 1:28:55Speaker 4: there and say, okay, well you didn't get them ready
- 1:28:56Speaker 4: to play.
- 1:28:57Speaker 2: That's my part. There's a certain things you just there's
- 1:28:59Speaker 2: no in it. By the way, according to this NFL
- 1:29:04Speaker 2: dot com official website article, in nineteen ninety seven, the
- 1:29:07Speaker 2: Packers replaced the coil heating system with a series of
- 1:29:10Speaker 2: underground pipes filled with a solution that included andy freeze.
- 1:29:14Speaker 5: Well, okay, but there's that. It doesn't mean they can't
- 1:29:16Speaker 5: get snow on the on the.
- 1:29:19Speaker 2: I didn't make it up, you said it was. I
- 1:29:22Speaker 2: didn't make it up, said you? Made it up, he said,
- 1:29:26Speaker 2: I said it. I did you.
- 1:29:27Speaker 4: You said they don't have snow on the field because
- 1:29:30Speaker 4: of that, and you're wrong.
- 1:29:31Speaker 2: Okay, fine, but I didn't make it up. Do you
- 1:29:34Speaker 2: think is there any other kind? And I don't know.
- 1:29:37Speaker 2: I don't drive any heavy machinery. I have no idea
- 1:29:42Speaker 2: what he puts in his chickhood. No, let's come back.
- 1:29:44Speaker 2: We'll go around the rest of the league. What a
- 1:29:48Speaker 2: show it's been. It's been something. It's been a show.
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- 1:30:20Speaker 3: I'll look around the NFL continues, JP Shadwick, Tony Biselli,
- 1:30:24Speaker 3: Pete Priscoe, the Buccaneers over the Giants, who are awful.
- 1:30:28Speaker 2: Thirty to seven. The final score are the Bucks for real.
- 1:30:32Speaker 2: Let's get Tony's Mike come and Pete. Yeah as Pete,
- 1:30:35Speaker 2: can you hear me?
- 1:30:37Speaker 5: Yeah? I hear you.
- 1:30:38Speaker 2: Who's gonna win the NFC? Sound? I think it's the Bucks?
- 1:30:41Speaker 5: I do too. You look at their schedule.
- 1:30:43Speaker 4: Their schedule is favorable the rest of the way, and
- 1:30:46Speaker 4: they're getting healthy too.
- 1:30:47Speaker 5: They're the best team.
- 1:30:48Speaker 4: They should have beat the Falcons the first time in Atlanta,
- 1:30:51Speaker 4: and then the second time they had played toe to
- 1:30:52Speaker 4: toe with him, and they had all those injuries.
- 1:30:54Speaker 5: So yeah, I think it's the Bucks.
- 1:30:57Speaker 3: This is the wildest ending I've seen in a long time.
- 1:30:59Speaker 3: Cowboys over the Commanders thirty four, twenty six, And remember
- 1:31:03Speaker 3: at halftime it was three to three game.
- 1:31:07Speaker 4: Crazy And when you look at it, they allowed the
- 1:31:10Speaker 4: Cowboys let the eighty yard touchdown pass with thirty two
- 1:31:14Speaker 4: seconds left in the game, and then they missed the
- 1:31:16Speaker 4: extra point. But not only that, they gave up a
- 1:31:19Speaker 4: two kickover two returns or two touchdowns.
- 1:31:22Speaker 2: Bought kicks were two returns? How did the Cowboys give
- 1:31:26Speaker 2: up an eighty yard or with thirty seconds.
- 1:31:29Speaker 4: He hit McLaurin in the seam and like there were
- 1:31:32Speaker 4: about four guys standing there and he just ripped right
- 1:31:34Speaker 4: through them on the sideline.
- 1:31:35Speaker 5: It was terrible.
- 1:31:36Speaker 2: He got one block and then it was down the down,
- 1:31:38Speaker 2: the sidelining, and of course they hooked the extra point.
- 1:31:41Speaker 2: No good. So the Cowboys are now four and seven,
- 1:31:44Speaker 2: and Pete, you said, you think they have they're not
- 1:31:46Speaker 2: out of it.
- 1:31:47Speaker 5: Well, they beat the Giant, they'll beat the Giants.
- 1:31:49Speaker 2: Giants, so they'll be five and seven. They got the Bengals.
- 1:31:52Speaker 2: That's a tough one.
- 1:31:53Speaker 5: Tough one. Where's that game at?
- 1:31:55Speaker 2: Uh it's at home, and they played, but they played
- 1:31:58Speaker 2: terrible at home. They're terrible. Are on the road.
- 1:32:01Speaker 5: They're not a good team. They're not a good team.
- 1:32:02Speaker 5: But go ahead and keep going.
- 1:32:03Speaker 2: Who else they have Carolina? That's at Carolina. That's a
- 1:32:06Speaker 2: when right, Tampa is a tough one.
- 1:32:11Speaker 4: The Tampa Dallas game could end up being one of
- 1:32:13Speaker 4: those because the Tampa Dows, the Tampa Atlanta loser could
- 1:32:17Speaker 4: also be the last wildcard team.
- 1:32:19Speaker 2: And then they got Philly and Washington to finish it.
- 1:32:22Speaker 4: I mean, you look at you look at the the West.
- 1:32:26Speaker 5: Those two those teams are eating each other alive out there.
- 1:32:29Speaker 5: What's going to win the West? In the NFC?
- 1:32:32Speaker 2: Well, the leaders are six and five right now, and
- 1:32:34Speaker 2: you got the forty nine ers who are struggling and
- 1:32:36Speaker 2: beat up. That's a team that's beat up. Jpan, Well,
- 1:32:41Speaker 2: I'm just explaining when they're missing you know, their top receiver,
- 1:32:44Speaker 2: their best left tackle, their third quarterback.
- 1:32:47Speaker 4: McCaffrey missed all year. McCaffrey missed all year, the same
- 1:32:50Speaker 4: Ayuk is out for the year.
- 1:32:52Speaker 2: Ye. So Seattle in Arizona six and five, leading the
- 1:32:57Speaker 2: division rams forty nine and six.
- 1:33:01Speaker 4: And the Seattle and Arizona play each other next week.
- 1:33:04Speaker 4: Again in Arizona, they played back to back weeks, no
- 1:33:08Speaker 4: next the following week. This week is in between. Arizona
- 1:33:11Speaker 4: plays at Minnesota. This week Seattle plays at the Jets.
- 1:33:16Speaker 2: And right now the forty nine ers are in the
- 1:33:20Speaker 2: worst position because they're one and three in the division.
- 1:33:23Speaker 4: Well, not only that they play at Buffalo this week.
- 1:33:25Speaker 4: It might not have party.
- 1:33:27Speaker 2: What's Purdy's injury is his shoulder, throwing shoulder. I think
- 1:33:32Speaker 2: so yeah, that's not good, not good.
- 1:33:36Speaker 3: Broncos over the Raiders twenty nine to nineteen. Of course,
- 1:33:39Speaker 3: I meant you've done for the year, broken collar, bone,
- 1:33:42Speaker 3: head to head matchup coming up in a few weeks.
- 1:33:45Speaker 4: It wasn't playing very well before he got hurt, and
- 1:33:47Speaker 4: who's the uh, who's the star going to be?
- 1:33:53Speaker 5: Uh? Desmond Ritter?
- 1:33:55Speaker 2: Are we sure about that.
- 1:33:57Speaker 5: Unless they go get Daniel Jones or something to playoff this.
- 1:34:00Speaker 2: You know who's on that roster as a quarterback? Carter Bradley.
- 1:34:05Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just a's kid. He's on the roster. Former
- 1:34:10Speaker 2: Jacksonville High school kid coach Carter former South Alabama Jaguars,
- 1:34:15Speaker 2: South Alabama Jaguar.
- 1:34:16Speaker 4: He's on me and Ridter went in it was really bad.
- 1:34:19Speaker 4: He's not very good. So who knows. Maybe they'll give
- 1:34:21Speaker 4: Carter Bradley a shot, and maybe Carter Bradley can beat
- 1:34:25Speaker 4: Jacksonville and ensure that the Jaguars get the number one
- 1:34:27Speaker 4: over pick. Then Carter Bradley would be like the all
- 1:34:29Speaker 4: time Jacksonville High School heroes.
- 1:34:31Speaker 2: Could you imagine when we play the Raiders of Carter
- 1:34:34Speaker 2: Bradley's the starting quarterback. Yeah, no, I'm just I mean,
- 1:34:39Speaker 2: I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying he's on
- 1:34:41Speaker 2: the roster the quarterback when he's a kid.
- 1:34:43Speaker 5: He's not awful. By the way, who Carter Bradley?
- 1:34:47Speaker 3: No, I didn't say it was no Seahawks over the Cardinals.
- 1:34:52Speaker 3: Sixteen to six. Eagles beat the Rams of course last
- 1:34:56Speaker 3: night thirty seven to twenty.
- 1:34:58Speaker 2: There you have it.
- 1:34:59Speaker 5: There's a look a one seventh straight. Can you believe
- 1:35:01Speaker 5: that they're.
- 1:35:02Speaker 2: Hot right now? Who's stopping Saquon?
- 1:35:04Speaker 5: Anybody with that offensive line is gonna be hard to do.
- 1:35:09Speaker 2: Can they beat the Lions? They're gonna have They're gonna
- 1:35:14Speaker 2: have to go to Detroit most likely.
- 1:35:16Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:35:17Speaker 4: But here's the difference between the Eagles and the Lions.
- 1:35:19Speaker 4: The Lion Eagles can rush the pastor when they need to,
- 1:35:22Speaker 4: but they did lose Graham.
- 1:35:23Speaker 2: Did you see that he looks Graham for the trip.
- 1:35:26Speaker 4: I'm not so sure that the Lions can rush the
- 1:35:29Speaker 4: passer consistently without Hutchingson. If the Lions had Hutchinson, I
- 1:35:33Speaker 4: would think they'd have a real shot to I think
- 1:35:35Speaker 4: they'd be the favorite.
- 1:35:36Speaker 5: They are the favorite to win it all.
- 1:35:38Speaker 2: Did Zadarius Smith give them anything?
- 1:35:41Speaker 5: Yeah, he gives them something, But it's not him. That
- 1:35:43Speaker 5: ain't him. No, No, I still think the Packers are
- 1:35:47Speaker 5: a threat.
- 1:35:48Speaker 2: Do you think they are?
- 1:35:50Speaker 5: I do.
- 1:35:51Speaker 2: I think the NFT title game is going to be
- 1:35:54Speaker 2: in Detroit. Eagles Lions. I'll watch that. That's what I
- 1:36:01Speaker 2: think I would watch.
- 1:36:02Speaker 4: And then you can look at it and say this,
- 1:36:03Speaker 4: if you don't call a reel route to a third
- 1:36:05Speaker 4: string running back Jacksonville might have ended that streak the
- 1:36:08Speaker 4: Eagles had.
- 1:36:10Speaker 2: I mean, you could do a lot of ifs and
- 1:36:11Speaker 2: butts in that game.
- 1:36:13Speaker 4: But Dunstan was an awful team right now, and they
- 1:36:14Speaker 4: should have beat the Eagles at Philly.
- 1:36:15Speaker 5: It could have beat the Eagles at Philly.
- 1:36:17Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, could have not should have? Yeah, they could have.
- 1:36:21Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that.
- 1:36:23Speaker 3: Monday Night football and it's a battle of contending teams
- 1:36:26Speaker 3: in the AFC. Lamar Jackson, Derek Henry and the Baltimore
- 1:36:28Speaker 3: Ravens take the number one offense in the NFL to
- 1:36:31Speaker 3: SOFI Stadium in La in a face Justin Herbert and
- 1:36:34Speaker 3: the LA Chargers. It's Harble Bowl three. John versus Jim
- 1:36:39Speaker 3: John won the first two. Maybe the lights will stay
- 1:36:41Speaker 3: on this time. Who you got?
- 1:36:45Speaker 2: I think it's it's gonna be a really good game.
- 1:36:47Speaker 2: And the Ravens have issues on defense. I think the
- 1:36:49Speaker 2: Chargers get this.
- 1:36:51Speaker 5: I think the Chargers get it too. I think you're
- 1:36:53Speaker 5: gonna get a little loose. Here's the thing about the Chargers.
- 1:36:55Speaker 4: They're really little and you know what Derrick Henry's gonna
- 1:36:58Speaker 4: do against really little defenses. I mean they're three hundred
- 1:37:01Speaker 4: pound three hundred pounders in the middle. They're linebackers that
- 1:37:04Speaker 4: are playing the night are to twenty five. I think
- 1:37:07Speaker 4: this might be a Derek Henry go wildnife. But I
- 1:37:09Speaker 4: do think Herbert's playing out of his mind by the way.
- 1:37:12Speaker 4: I think the Chargers find a way to win. I'll
- 1:37:14Speaker 4: take the Chargers as well.
- 1:37:15Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with Pete.
- 1:37:16Speaker 3: There you have it, pixer in and you know what, Tony,
- 1:37:19Speaker 3: I'm gonna take you up on your Thanksgiving up.
- 1:37:20Speaker 2: You're gonna come over. I'll tell you, I'm gonna come. I'll
- 1:37:22Speaker 2: tell the boss you're coming.
- 1:37:23Speaker 5: He wants fried turkey, fried turkey.
- 1:37:25Speaker 2: No, he will want the companionship. I mean he wants
- 1:37:28Speaker 2: to come hanging. So we're hanging out. Pete gave Jack
- 1:37:30Speaker 2: gave I gave.
- 1:37:31Speaker 5: Him a little about that. He just blew off his
- 1:37:33Speaker 5: other friends that he already agreed to go.
- 1:37:35Speaker 2: He said that I can I have a car. I can, Pete.
- 1:37:39Speaker 2: I gave JP a little insight on the itinerary of
- 1:37:42Speaker 2: the day, and He's like, I'm coming over. I'm in,
- 1:37:45Speaker 2: I'm all in, Pete Fellas, Thanksgiving Thanksgiving, guys, Hey, Happy Thanksgiving.
- 1:37:50Speaker 2: All the Jack fans out there.
- 1:37:51Speaker 3: Is Pete Prisco, Tony Macelli, JP Shaddick. Thanks to Joe Fortunato,
- 1:37:55Speaker 3: Brent reeber Our entire crew. It's Jaguars Happy Hour
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