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Chuck & Buck 12-19 Hour 2: 12th Man News with Gregg Bell, Darnold's criticism & Coach's comments. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Thirty seven thirty six rams with a one point lean
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Speaker 1: urine overtime. The top spots in the NFC west on
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Speaker 1: the line and the inside track to the one seed
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Speaker 1: in the NFC all comes down to display Tonight's in Seattle.
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Speaker 1: Here we go, the Seahawks going for two. Donald's standing
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Speaker 1: on the left, Hash takes the shotgun, snap three step
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Speaker 1: crop looking.
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Speaker 2: Looking fired on your mouth.
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Speaker 1: It's Cot Bias, Tonnan, Eric Suberts the god then no
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Speaker 1: one expected, and the Seahawks.
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Speaker 2: Walk it off and so on to the top of
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Speaker 2: the NFCUS with the.
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Speaker 1: Thirty eight thirty seven overtime win tonight here in Seattle.
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Speaker 2: Wow, good call.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought she did a great job on that car.
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Speaker 3: Kate Scott can't help but be Doc Brown when I
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Speaker 3: say her name.
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Speaker 2: Kate Scott.
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Speaker 4: Now I'm picturing him.
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Speaker 2: Hair's all crazy west Wood One. What a game. Unbelievable,
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Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 3: I wrote down my game notes and then every time
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Speaker 3: we do a Monday morning quarterback, and we'll do that
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Speaker 3: today with you, for with you and coach. Then I
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Speaker 3: do notes like topics that we should discuss. I have
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Speaker 3: eight pages of nothing but eighty eight topics that we
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Speaker 3: could discuss, and that's.
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Speaker 2: Just flying through it. I'm sure I could go deeper.
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Speaker 3: Eighty eight different topics that we could discuss with Greg,
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Speaker 3: Coach and Hugh on today's edition a Monday Morning Quarterback.
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Speaker 2: That's how loaded that game was last night.
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Speaker 3: A huge win for the Seahawks, come from behind, not impossible,
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Speaker 3: but surely improbable, recovering from a sixteen point fourth quarter
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Speaker 3: deficit to win in overtime thirty eight to thirty seven
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Speaker 3: and seize control of the NFC West and most likely
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Speaker 3: the number one seed in the NFC playoffs. Still a
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Speaker 3: lot of work to be done, though, and we certainly
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Speaker 3: will discuss that coming up in our last three hours
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Speaker 3: of the show here today. Carolina and San Francisco the
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Speaker 3: next two opponents, but last night thirty eight thirty seven
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Speaker 3: overtime winners. Let's take a look at the Frostbrewed Corps
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Speaker 3: light Choose Chill headlines here on a football Friday, the
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Speaker 3: NFL Week number sixteen. We get to watch now stress
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Speaker 3: free this weekend. Of course, that was hardly the case
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Speaker 3: last night. Yeah, but Saturday football Philadelphia at Washington, Green
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Speaker 3: Bay at Chicago. So NFL Saturday Football starts, and then
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Speaker 3: of course, Sundays lineup, you got Tampa Bay at Carolina
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Speaker 3: perhaps for the Division there you've got Pittsburgh at Detroit
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Speaker 3: in the afternoon, along with Jacksonville and Denver. And then
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Speaker 3: the Sunday night game will be the Patriots at the
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Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens. College football playoffs starts this weekend tonight, Bama
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Speaker 3: at Oklahoma gets it going, and then three games on Saturday.
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Speaker 3: Strangely enough, the best of the three is the early
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Speaker 3: game at nine am. I would have thought they would
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Speaker 3: have put that in primetime. Maybe they're just trying to
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Speaker 3: avoid going up against the National Football League. But Miami
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Speaker 3: and Texas A and M will kick off at nine
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Speaker 3: am tomorrow, or as they say, down at Texas A
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Speaker 3: and M, nine A and M.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for laughing at that.
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Speaker 5: Really bad.
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Speaker 2: It was really bad, but that's why it was really funny.
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Speaker 3: Crack and lose their tenth of eleven games in Calgary
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Speaker 3: last night.
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Speaker 2: Four to two was the final score.
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Speaker 3: All right, enough, let's talk about these eighty eight topics
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Speaker 3: with Greg Bell.
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Speaker 2: Right now.
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Speaker 5: With the bell tolls, it must be seven o'clock and
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Speaker 5: time for twelfth Man News with Greg Bell, brought to
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Speaker 5: here's Greg Bell with Chuck and Bud.
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Speaker 2: How about that, Greg Bell?
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Speaker 3: How about now, that's not your run of the middle
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Speaker 3: game you've covered in your career, right there?
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Speaker 6: No good morning. I was coming up from the press
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Speaker 6: bocks late last night and Ethan mcreynold's younger reporter for
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Speaker 6: Box thirteen here in Seattle, he asked me where that
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Speaker 6: ranked of all the games I've covered as far as
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Speaker 6: just how crazy it was and expected at tourney and
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Speaker 6: them winning. And the first thing I could think of
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Speaker 6: was the two thousand and January twenty fifteen NFC title
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Speaker 6: game when they were down sixteen to nothing, down sixteen points,
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Speaker 6: but that was in the third quarter against the Green
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Speaker 6: Bay Packers, and then I've gone to overtime and winning it.
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Speaker 6: There were a lot of parallels to that, but that
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Speaker 6: comeback began in the third quarter and it was sixteen
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Speaker 6: to nothing at the time. Of course, Russell Wilson to
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Speaker 6: Jermaine Curse and overtime. They sent him to the Super
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Speaker 6: Bowl and it was the Patriots, and then the Patriots
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Speaker 6: Super Bowl down in Glendale, super Bowl forty nine. And
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Speaker 6: probably we'll put it this way. I probably wrote the
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Speaker 6: second because I write a running game story that I
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Speaker 6: have to file as soon as the game ends, and
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Speaker 6: my goal is to have it on the internet five
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Speaker 6: minutes after the final whistle. I did that again last night,
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Speaker 6: running it right, so you run the right to the
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Speaker 6: game story as the game is happening. That was probably
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Speaker 6: the second worst game story in my career yesterday. The
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Speaker 6: first one was the Seahawks Patriots Super Bowl and how
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Speaker 6: crazy that ended it was last night was largely inexplicable.
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Speaker 6: But Chuck, I would I would submit to you that
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Speaker 6: this is an example of what Mike McDonald's been building
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Speaker 6: for two seasons. The chasing edges, the intangibles, the one
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Speaker 6: hundred percent participation in voluntary OTAs back in the spring,
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Speaker 6: the brotherhood that they have. People say, why do you
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Speaker 6: write about them shadow boxing as it did in the
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Speaker 6: Riley Mills stories. The lead to my Bridley Mills story
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Speaker 6: last week because all that stuff in tangibles, the brotherhood,
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Speaker 6: the tightness they're relying on each other, the belief, the connectedness,
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Speaker 6: that stuff matters. If they didn't it didn't matter, then
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Speaker 6: they wouldn't stand. I don't want to spend time chasing edges,
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Speaker 6: but those are the last night was a chasing edges gaming.
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Speaker 6: You need those things in your favor for a game.
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Speaker 6: I got to go your way. It just doesn't happen.
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Speaker 6: There has to be some roote cause for them to
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Speaker 6: still have belief, for Sam Darnold to be pretty much unshakeable.
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Speaker 6: I had my binoculars on him after both interceptions. He
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Speaker 6: didn't change at all. They he did change down in
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Speaker 6: Inglewood in four interceptions last month, he slammed his helmet
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Speaker 6: on the top of the bench. Is the only time
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Speaker 6: I've seen really any emotion on the field with him
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Speaker 6: at all. After his third interception, he slammed helmet on
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Speaker 6: the top of the bench. But that was it. And
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Speaker 6: last night the guys A Lucas and others were talking
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Speaker 6: about he did not change at all and they were
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Speaker 6: looking at him after that second inner exception down three
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Speaker 6: to fourteen and nine minutes left me. Through the interceptions
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Speaker 6: read and unflappable the same, and there's something validating to
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Speaker 6: the team when their leader, the guy who has the
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Speaker 6: ball and everything making the decisions, looks unfazed by the
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Speaker 6: worst that just happened, and that mattered in the end
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Speaker 6: that Donald came back and brushed off of that if
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Speaker 6: he had not thrown two interceptions. So my point is,
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Speaker 6: the tangibles matter, and the edges do matter. That's why
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Speaker 6: Mike McDonald chases them so much. I can't really explain
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Speaker 6: why else they would win that game last night other
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Speaker 6: than that.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, there was a lot of things that they had
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Speaker 7: to chase to find a way to win that one,
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Speaker 7: and yet they did.
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Speaker 2: And I'm with you.
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Speaker 7: I think Sam Donald rising to the occasion in spite
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Speaker 7: of a couple of bad throws was probably one of
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Speaker 7: the more important things for this team moving forward, because
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Speaker 7: we know what we'd be talking about he'd done it
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Speaker 7: one more time, and you know, instead instead of converting
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Speaker 7: and getting that thing, getting the job done defensively, yeah,
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Speaker 7: you end up winning. I think that the idea our
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Speaker 7: take on this show, or at least Chucks and I
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Speaker 7: agreed after the first meeting, was felt like the Seahawks
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Speaker 7: might outplay the Rams, and yet they didn't win. This
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Speaker 7: one felt like the Rams most certainly outplayed the Seahawks
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Speaker 7: at least for the first three and a half quarters
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Speaker 7: or so. I think it was nine minutes and thirty
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Speaker 7: nine seconds left. Was after they had went up thirty
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Speaker 7: to fourteen. He throws that interception. I think pretty much
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Speaker 7: everybody was like, well, this was an embarrassing performance, and
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Speaker 7: yet they forced I think five punts the rest of
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Speaker 7: They missed the field going one, but they forced them
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Speaker 7: to punt I think four more times in the rest
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Speaker 7: of regulation.
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Speaker 2: So what switched.
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Speaker 7: It can't just be that they read something on a
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Speaker 7: board or were talked about chasing edge. Just something changed defensively.
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Speaker 6: I asked Ernest Jones that very question. I said, well,
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Speaker 6: how did you get three three that outs in a
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Speaker 6: row against a team that ran up five hundred and
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Speaker 6: eighty one yards on you. The quarterback ran threw for
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Speaker 6: fourth seventy nine, Kuka and Akou went for two twenty
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Speaker 6: five receivements, the most in eight years against the Sex
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Speaker 6: Well changed in those three drives, because you're right, without
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Speaker 6: those three drives, the game's over if the Rams go
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Speaker 6: down and score any points. At that point in the
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Speaker 6: fourth quarter, with nine minutes left, the sixteen point game
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Speaker 6: becomes a three score game. And I actually had to
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Speaker 6: side early in the fourth quarter when the Rams scored
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Speaker 6: to make it third or fourteen. If Sean McVay might
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Speaker 6: not go for two there to make it thirty one fourteen,
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Speaker 6: to make it a three score game. It went through
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Speaker 6: my head. I bet it went through his. But they
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Speaker 6: were so dominant at that point he probably thought they
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Speaker 6: didn't need it. The three scored, sixteen point three score
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Speaker 6: game didn't matter, but it did. And Ernest Jones said
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Speaker 6: that they were miscommunicating on deep passes over the middle.
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Speaker 6: There was a grand canyon chasm between Ernest Jones and
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Speaker 6: no linebacker in the safeties behind him. Actually, time and
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Speaker 6: again kept exploiting about a fifteen seventeen yard window from
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Speaker 6: the line of scrimmys down the middle of the field,
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Speaker 6: and I must have completed fifteen passes that way. Of course,
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Speaker 6: he completed twenty nine for the game. It was twenty
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Speaker 6: sever or twenty nine passes on the season on the night.
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Speaker 6: But he said that there was miscommunication, which got worse
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Speaker 6: when Kobe Bryant went out injured early in the second half,
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Speaker 6: because then Tyle Konda came in, so there was a
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Speaker 6: disconnect between the deeper coverage and the underneath intermediate zones
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Speaker 6: and they crushed it. And Jones said that they finally
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Speaker 6: shored that up on the three straight. That it would
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Speaker 6: also help guys is that they started limiting Kyrien Williams.
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Speaker 6: It looked like he was onto it was way to
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Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty yard night in the first half
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Speaker 6: rushing the ball, and when they limited him, third down
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Speaker 6: became third and eight and nine again instead of third
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Speaker 6: and two. And then he talked in the locker room
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Speaker 6: after the game, including Ernest Jones and a couple of
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Speaker 6: the defensive linemen, talked about now Stafford had to hold
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Speaker 6: onto the ball longer, as Jones said, he had to
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Speaker 6: wait for his receivers to run longer routes in the
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Speaker 6: first half when it was third and two and third
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Speaker 6: and one all the time, because they were getting nine
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Speaker 6: yards on first and second down. Then he couldn't get
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Speaker 6: to the quarterback because the ball was getting up so quickly.
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Speaker 6: But if Kuka Naku was running a ten yard route
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Speaker 6: on third nine, that's a lot different than a three
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Speaker 6: yard route on third two. And then they started affecting
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Speaker 6: Stafford a little bit, and he saw some more inaccurate
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Speaker 6: throws in the fourth quarter, stopping Williams and their plays
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Speaker 6: on the first down really contributed to getting off the field.
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Speaker 6: So there was two because third and two was killing him.
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Speaker 6: As Mike McDonald said, you can't spot rush the quarterback
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Speaker 6: on third and two, and that's exactly what their probme was.
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Speaker 6: Most again, a couple numbers there, A couple numbers that
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Speaker 6: one excuse me, just want to point out before last night,
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Speaker 6: in the last fifty years in the NFL, if an
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Speaker 6: offense had four hundred plus yards, didn't turn the ball over,
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Speaker 6: didn't take a sack, and their defense had three takeaways.
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Speaker 6: The Rams did all that. Since nineteen seventy five, teams
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Speaker 6: were seventy nine to zero in the league. Last night
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Speaker 6: was the another seventy nine and one. Now that's the
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Speaker 6: first time in fifty years an offense did what the
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Speaker 6: Rams did, a defense did what the Rams did, and
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Speaker 6: they lost. Wow. The second thing was Dehawks going into
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Speaker 6: the fourth quarter last night, when they trailed by sixteen
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Speaker 6: or more points in the fourth quarter in their fifty
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Speaker 6: year history, do you know how many times that happened?
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Speaker 6: One hundred and fifty five times going into last night?
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Speaker 6: Last night was one hundred and fifty six times the
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Speaker 6: Seahawks had trailed by sixteen or more points in the
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Speaker 6: fourth quarter. Do you guys know how many times until
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Speaker 6: last night the Seahawks had won those games? Zero? Zero.
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Speaker 6: Last night was the first time in fifty years history
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Speaker 6: of Seahawks football that they won a game trailing by
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Speaker 6: sixteen and more points in the fourth quarter. That's how
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Speaker 6: preposterous last night was.
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Speaker 2: It was awesome.
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Speaker 3: Greg bel Is with US Seahawks Insider from the News
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Speaker 3: We have to ask you about the two point tries,
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Speaker 3: three of them, all three of them successful, the forgotten
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Speaker 3: one to Cooper Cup, then the most interesting two point
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Speaker 3: conversion in football history that will be talked about, I'm
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Speaker 3: sure for years to come. And then the game winner
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Speaker 3: two Sowberds. And you're going around talking about the two
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Speaker 3: point tries.
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Speaker 2: What did you come away.
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Speaker 6: With Seahawks themselves McDonald donald, nobody knew that that was
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Speaker 6: a backward pass. That was the one that tied it
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Speaker 6: thirty to thirty. That was supposed to be a forward pass.
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Speaker 6: It was a bubble screen outside and Jared Verst, the
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Speaker 6: rams eddresher, jumped up and knocked it down. But when
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Speaker 6: did Donald threw it just behind parallel? The rule is
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Speaker 6: if it's backwards at all, it's a fumble, but if
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Speaker 6: it's parallel or forward, it's a forward pass. So it
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Speaker 6: was rolled parallel to the line of scrimmage. But if
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Speaker 6: you really broke it down. And Amazon Prime, because they
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Speaker 6: owned the world and they print money, they had these
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Speaker 6: great television cameras that the angle was perfect. It was
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Speaker 6: right along the four or five yard line to show
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Speaker 6: that he threw it from his hand was about the
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Speaker 6: four and a half and the ball was deflected by
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Speaker 6: verse it about the four. The crazy thing about that
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Speaker 6: play is nobody thought it was well they fumble and
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Speaker 6: every one thought it was in The officials ruled that.
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Speaker 6: So the ball was just laying in the end zone idly.
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Speaker 6: I mean, it was just there like a nerf ball
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Speaker 6: in someone's backyard. They left there from last weekend's play,
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Speaker 6: and Sharbonage just walked over to pick it up as
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Speaker 6: if he was doing the official favor given it to him.
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Speaker 6: He wasn't letting us recover it. Think about this. What
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Speaker 6: if that ball had not spun. What if the grains
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Speaker 6: of the artificial turf were not in such a way,
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Speaker 6: the wetness of having rained for six weeks here in
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Speaker 6: Seattle did not make the turf in such a way
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Speaker 6: to make that ball spin into inside the goal line.
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Speaker 6: What if it had just spun and he landed on
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Speaker 6: the one and a half or half inchside and then
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Speaker 6: Sharboney picked it up because he just walked after he
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Speaker 6: picked it up. He just walked along the goal line.
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Speaker 6: What if he was on the half yard line. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: that wouldn't have been That wouldn't have been too. That's
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Speaker 6: how ridiculous that play was. That was just fate that
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Speaker 6: the ball happened to spin at that exact location and
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Speaker 6: Sharbony just happened to pick it up like he found
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Speaker 6: a penny on the street. If he had picked it
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Speaker 6: up outside the goal line, then none of that would.
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Speaker 2: Have happened, right.
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Speaker 6: Crazy. Other part of that is they were lined up
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Speaker 6: to kick a to the kick off. Everybody was on
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Speaker 6: the field, And that's what McVeigh had an issue with.
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Speaker 6: After the game, he said, wait a minute, how could
15:51
Speaker 6: you how could New York be allowed to stop the
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Speaker 6: whole thing, the process and everything. When the officials and
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Speaker 6: everybody had already moved on, we'd moved on. We were
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Speaker 6: lined up to kick off and Matthew Stafford after the
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Speaker 6: game said, wait a minute. I thought, you can't advance
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Speaker 6: a fumble and you get the old holy roller role
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Speaker 6: from Dave Casper in the seventies with the Raiders in
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Speaker 6: the last two minutes, And well, it wasn't last two
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Speaker 6: minutes for Matthew Stafford's case. And nobody advanced that fumble.
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Speaker 6: No one played it forward. It wasn't It wasn't considered
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Speaker 6: a forward fumble. It was considered a backward path, if
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Speaker 6: that makes sense. So nobody possessed it enough to make
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Speaker 6: it a forward fumble, if does make sense. I think
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Speaker 6: that was what the ruling was. But yes, that is,
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Speaker 6: but that's not exactly why replay was instituted in the
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Speaker 6: NFL to correct. But if you go by the clear
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Speaker 6: and obvious mistake standard, it was right because the officials
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Speaker 6: said it was incomplete and that's a two point play.
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Speaker 6: And by the way, it was not challenged by McDonald.
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Speaker 6: He had no idea. All two point plays, all scoring
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Speaker 6: plays in the NFL are automatically reviewed, which is how
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Speaker 6: that whole thing came up in first place. Man, there's
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Speaker 6: something else I want to mention about. Let's talk about
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Speaker 6: Salbert's two point play. When they lined up, they had
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Speaker 6: three wide receivers to the right, including the tight end
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Speaker 6: AJ Barner. They were overloading the right side, and then
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Speaker 6: sure enough Sam johnod was looking that way, the boy
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Speaker 6: Eric Salbert was tight at left end. After the game,
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Speaker 6: McDonald's said that Salbert's the fourth read. On that I
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Speaker 6: would argue he probably is the fifth read because the
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Speaker 6: fourth was Sharbon a leaking out of the backfield. If
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Speaker 6: he didn't have anyone to block, I'm pretty sure Charbone
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Speaker 6: would have been the option above Salbert. Salbert is a
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Speaker 6: nine year career blocking tight end special teams as who
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Speaker 6: was on his eight team in nine years, whom the
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Speaker 6: Seahawks cut a month ago and brought back to give
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Speaker 6: him a new contract. The way his contract was structured,
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Speaker 6: he wasn't going to be available to the team next year.
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Speaker 6: They were a new signing. It was there were some
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Speaker 6: things beyond the fact it was just a one year contract.
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Speaker 6: There was some technicalities there on why they cut him
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Speaker 6: and brought him back to get him a new deal
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Speaker 6: for the rest of this year and next year. But
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Speaker 6: the fight, the bottom line is they cut him and
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Speaker 6: then brought him back. He's like the third or fourth
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Speaker 6: string tight end even though he's really second or third
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Speaker 6: on depth truck because of his blocking. But his job
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Speaker 6: was to block, and he did. He blocked, He blocky,
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Speaker 6: blocky blocked that almost blind gave Darnold enough time to
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Speaker 6: look through five guys with the game on the line,
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Speaker 6: and the Rams chose not the Blitzer pressure but to
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Speaker 6: cover because they thought, we can cover this end zone
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Speaker 6: better than we can the whole field. Let's put seven
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Speaker 6: men in coverage in this three yard and five yard
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Speaker 6: zone into the end zone. But they never saw Soburn.
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Speaker 6: If you look at the replay of that play, nobody
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Speaker 6: covered him because he blocked and blocked for so long
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Speaker 6: that they thought he was a blocker and they we're
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Speaker 6: not going to devote to cover guy him. Yeah, that
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Speaker 6: was crazy.
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Speaker 3: Almost looked like he almost looked like guilty, Like you
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Speaker 3: just slipped in there, like hey, I'm kind of wide
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Speaker 3: open here.
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Speaker 6: Well it's like it's like it was like I have
18:53
Speaker 6: nothing else to do. I've blocked that blocked, I don't
18:56
Speaker 6: feel like blocking anymore. Let's go see what the colim
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Speaker 6: looks like. That's what it looked like. And he said, yeah,
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Speaker 6: I was a little surprised the play was going on
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Speaker 6: long enough where my blocking job was done. Not if
19:05
Speaker 6: you go pass catch. How many times does the Seahawk
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Speaker 6: pass bloker have enough time to just decide, Okay, my
19:11
Speaker 6: job's done here. I'm going to go catch a pass.
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Speaker 6: That's happened like twice and ten years in Seattle. The
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Speaker 6: other thing I mentioned about Ernest Jones made sure we
19:21
Speaker 6: all knew, including the national television audience and us in
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Speaker 6: the locker room after the game. They were talking about
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Speaker 6: it in the locker room a lot that the Rams
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Speaker 6: are laughing at him on the field when it was
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Speaker 6: thirty to fourteen when those left, Yeah, I mean flat
19:33
Speaker 6: as Deernis Jones said, laughing. Man today, it was disrespectful.
19:37
Speaker 6: It disrespected us or districted our defense. It disrespected the game.
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Speaker 6: There was too much time left. Yes, he's play for him,
19:47
Speaker 6: he said. I'm not gonna name names. He's smart enough
19:49
Speaker 6: because he's thinking they may play him a third time
19:51
Speaker 6: in the playoffs, he said, But they know I wrote
19:54
Speaker 6: a whole story about it in the news Tributes at
19:56
Speaker 6: the News Tribune dot com right now. But they could
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Speaker 6: very well play the Ram for the NFC title. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: appear in Seattle and they will remember this. Bram's laughing
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Speaker 6: at them at thirty to fourteen of nine minutes left.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, now I want it. It's Ollie Frazier. They've got
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Speaker 3: to fight a third time, so let's do it.
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Speaker 2: All right. Well, awesome stuff. Thank you very much, sir.
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Speaker 3: We appreciate it, and we will certainly be checking in
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Speaker 3: with you next week.
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Speaker 6: Yeah. Happy. We let me say this as much and
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Speaker 6: as what they accomplished last night if they don't beat
20:25
Speaker 6: the Panthers and forty nine ers down the road anyway.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hear you.
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Speaker 6: That's Uie's league is every weekend.
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Speaker 2: All right?
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Speaker 8: Guys, I was crazy, yeah, I think just overall, you
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Speaker 8: guys are gonna think I'm weird for saying this, but
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Speaker 8: we you know, I didn't think we played our best football.
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Speaker 8: I certainly didn't play my best football. We got a
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Speaker 8: lot of work to do there, but at the end
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Speaker 8: of the day, we won. And you know that the
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Speaker 8: team in that locker room, all the guys in that
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Speaker 8: locker room, you know, we worked so hard for moments
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Speaker 8: like this. Obviously, you know, like I said, we got
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Speaker 8: a lot of work to do and we're gonna continue
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Speaker 8: to push and get better. But those guys in the
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Speaker 8: locker room deserve a win like that.
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Speaker 3: Sam Darnold, he got it done. I know I threw
21:43
Speaker 3: two interceptions, but he got it done. In the end,
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Speaker 3: Seahawks went at thirty eight, thirty seven and overtime over
21:49
Speaker 3: the Los Angeles Rams. If you didn't see it, you
21:53
Speaker 3: didn't see it. Laughing at you because you really missed it.
21:58
Speaker 3: You're a sports fan and you missed that because that
22:00
Speaker 3: game was mind blowing for four straight hours. It was
22:04
Speaker 3: mind blowing. And the Seahawks end up with the victory
22:07
Speaker 3: last night. And there's a lot of conversation about Sam
22:10
Speaker 3: Donald there was going into this game. A lot of
22:13
Speaker 3: people just kind of want to draw right the conclusion
22:16
Speaker 3: about this guy. And that's I think that's the part
22:18
Speaker 3: that I don't understand, is that so many people are
22:22
Speaker 3: just ready to conclude that Sam Donald just can't win
22:26
Speaker 3: a big game. Sam Donald got off to a really
22:29
Speaker 3: rough start in his NFL career. He was a very
22:31
Speaker 3: young player coming into the league. He didn't exactly get
22:35
Speaker 3: put in the right situation. I mean, who has succeeded
22:38
Speaker 3: with the New York Jets. Aaron Rodgers is going to
22:41
Speaker 3: be a first ballot Hall of Famer and in the
22:43
Speaker 3: conversation for greatest quarterbacks to ever live, and he sucked
22:48
Speaker 3: as a Jet, Yeah, you know, and so I mean,
22:52
Speaker 3: maybe maybe there's something to that organization. And then he
22:54
Speaker 3: bounced around a little while, and then whatever he picked
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Speaker 3: up in San Francisco applied it to when he got
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Speaker 3: to Minnesota. And then whatever he picked up in Minnesota,
23:03
Speaker 3: he seems to have applied it here in Seattle. As
23:06
Speaker 3: he said, the offense isn't a finished product. He's not
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Speaker 3: a finished product. He still have a really young man
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Speaker 3: by quarterback standards. But so many people are just racing
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Speaker 3: to the end of his career to write what a
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Speaker 3: disappointment he is, even after two consecutive years of success.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's winning like ninety percent of his games
23:24
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. And so he did not
23:28
Speaker 3: play a great game last night, and he made another
23:30
Speaker 3: couple of costly turnovers in this contest, and for a
23:34
Speaker 3: while there it did look like it was going to
23:36
Speaker 3: go south. But man, I think you know he as
23:40
Speaker 3: Greg pointed out, Bucky, he just continued to kind of
23:44
Speaker 3: look unfazed. I'm not going to change the way I play,
23:47
Speaker 3: even though it's not going my way right now. And
23:50
Speaker 3: he threw a couple of gems, one to Cup and
23:54
Speaker 3: there were great catches too.
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Speaker 2: And one to JSN on the sideline.
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Speaker 3: And then to have that composure to go through your
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Speaker 3: progressions on the game winning two point conversion, where if
24:03
Speaker 3: you don't convert this, you lose the football game, and
24:06
Speaker 3: to go through five different progressions and then just slip
24:10
Speaker 3: one into Sawbert there for the game winner. I'll think
24:14
Speaker 3: a little bit of a redemption story for Sam Donald
24:16
Speaker 3: considering all the conversation around him.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Well, I mean it's the saying of you, you don't
24:21
Speaker 7: get a second chance to make a first impression. There's
24:23
Speaker 7: truth to that, and yet it's not really true because
24:26
Speaker 7: you people will label you something based on how what
24:29
Speaker 7: their first impression of you is. And he got labeled
24:32
Speaker 7: as a bust bust, you know, and it's like, okay,
24:35
Speaker 7: well is that legitimate. Well, yeah, you played like a bust,
24:38
Speaker 7: but for the Jets you were a bus Yeah, but
24:40
Speaker 7: they spent a third overall pick on you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's that happens to a lot of people.
24:45
Speaker 7: I think football even more than the definitely more than baseball.
24:50
Speaker 7: Baseball is such a weird team sport, but it's all
24:53
Speaker 7: individually performance based, right. Nobody helps you hit, nobody helps
24:56
Speaker 7: you field the ball, nobody helps you throw it where
24:58
Speaker 7: you throw it. Football so much more team oriented that
25:02
Speaker 7: you kind of your how good your career is is
25:06
Speaker 7: is largely based on who you're surrounded by, who's coaching you,
25:10
Speaker 7: what kind of scheme you're in. I mean, how much
25:12
Speaker 7: pressure is put on you I mean, there's just so
25:14
Speaker 7: much that goes into it. And he was like, you said,
25:16
Speaker 7: young coming out of college, really young coming out of college,
25:19
Speaker 7: and and failed, failed, and so then he had to
25:21
Speaker 7: go through the route of Okay, you got knocked down
25:23
Speaker 7: multiple pegs, but you still get to hold of clipboard,
25:26
Speaker 7: you still get to learn, you still get to practice,
25:27
Speaker 7: you get to run the scout team. And he did
25:29
Speaker 7: that for a couple of teams, and then last year
25:32
Speaker 7: went out and led the Vikings to a great season.
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Speaker 7: And yet because of his first impression, when he failed
25:37
Speaker 7: in the last regular season game against Detroit and then
25:40
Speaker 7: failed against the Rams, it was right back to, well,
25:43
Speaker 7: you're gonna you earned a collor somebody is gonna give
25:46
Speaker 7: you a contract, but are you really worth it?
25:49
Speaker 2: It's like team games, franchise.
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Speaker 7: I won, you know, majority of my first parts of
25:56
Speaker 7: the game, and would they won fourteen games last year,
25:59
Speaker 7: and yet I failed in our regular season finale, which
26:01
Speaker 7: was a big game. There was a lot of seeding
26:04
Speaker 7: implications on that thing. And yet and then failed in
26:08
Speaker 7: the playoffs, and yet you're like, Okay, Hughes kind of
26:11
Speaker 7: mentioned like there's not very many quarterbacks that would get
26:13
Speaker 7: harassed the way that the Rams did to him in
26:16
Speaker 7: that playoff game. Would he get sacked nine times in
26:18
Speaker 7: that game and have a successful game. And so then
26:21
Speaker 7: you couple that with he rattles off a bunch of
26:24
Speaker 7: wins and then throws four interceptions against the Rams, and
26:26
Speaker 7: it's like, well, you can't. You're not going to be
26:28
Speaker 7: any good. You just that's you. Big games, you fail.
26:31
Speaker 7: Last night he was having moments where he made mistakes,
26:34
Speaker 7: some of them good defensive schemes.
26:36
Speaker 2: You got to tip your cap.
26:37
Speaker 7: That defensive lineman drop him back into coverage was a
26:40
Speaker 7: straight bait and trick type move, and he fell for it.
26:43
Speaker 7: You would hope that he doesn't, but he did. That's
26:45
Speaker 7: gonna happen from time to time. But the fact that
26:47
Speaker 7: he didn't waiver and he just still made the throws
26:49
Speaker 7: that he had to make down the wire, that to
26:52
Speaker 7: me is the sign of a leader that you want
26:54
Speaker 7: running your organization.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it seems like he is has been that
26:58
Speaker 4: person from day one, because he wouldn't still in the NFL.
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Speaker 4: If he wasn't that person, you know, he would he
27:03
Speaker 4: would have left, probably after not doing well with the Panthers.
27:07
Speaker 4: I mean, just one bad team. After another, and here
27:10
Speaker 4: he is still succeeding despite having some struggles here and there.
27:15
Speaker 3: So sometimes the light just goes on a little later,
27:18
Speaker 3: and you don't know whose message gets through to you.
27:21
Speaker 3: And obviously whatever happened in San Francisco, and I can't
27:24
Speaker 3: believe that Rock Purdy is the guy that he credits
27:27
Speaker 3: for so much of his turnaround. Rock Perty's younger than
27:30
Speaker 3: him and was the last pick in the draft, for
27:32
Speaker 3: goodness sake, and he's backing him up in San Francisco,
27:34
Speaker 3: but he always references him. And obviously O'Connell knows what
27:37
Speaker 3: he's doing with quarterbacks.
27:39
Speaker 2: And then you add.
27:40
Speaker 3: That layer here in Seattle, with whatever Mike McDonald has
27:44
Speaker 3: infused in him. Confidence wise, Sam really does let it
27:49
Speaker 3: rip and it's led to more interceptions that we're comfortable with.
27:52
Speaker 3: He's got to get better. There's certainly a short list
27:56
Speaker 3: of guys in the National Football League I trade Sam
27:58
Speaker 3: Donald for tomorrow. He's not proven himself as a champion yet.
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Speaker 3: But I tell you what, I'm glad he's our quarterback.
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Speaker 3: And I think last night was a growth period. He
28:08
Speaker 3: didn't play a great game last night. Might even argue
28:11
Speaker 3: he didn't even play a good game, but he certainly
28:15
Speaker 3: came through when he had to come through, and I'm
28:18
Speaker 3: glad he's our quarterback and I think the best of
28:20
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold is still ahead of him. We'll talk more
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Speaker 3: about that with Hugh Millen coming up at eight o'clock today,
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Speaker 3: Coach Holmgren at nine o'clock. Mike McDonald audio coming up next,
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Speaker 9: Now, Matt Cornado left side fires off the inside of
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Speaker 3: ninety three point three KJRFM, wrote these.
29:31
Speaker 2: Words years ago in his music career.
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Speaker 3: Ain't no valley high enough, ain't no valley low enough
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Speaker 3: us from getting where we want to go.
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Speaker 2: That's the truth. Actually that was just a Mike McDonald cover.
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Speaker 6: He never wrote those words.
29:43
Speaker 3: Oh ah, but nonetheless I wanted to cover it. They've
29:47
Speaker 3: never sounded truer than they do after that game last night,
29:52
Speaker 3: look at that.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well up to that point, there had been valleys
29:57
Speaker 7: that were low enough to not get to you, or
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Speaker 7: with a win.
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Speaker 2: Not to get to the number one seed.
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Speaker 7: Not yesterday, Yes, like that valley's not low like.
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Speaker 4: This mountain ain't high enough.
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Speaker 2: That was the original wording.
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Speaker 3: Was anal mountain high enough, anal valley low enough to
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Speaker 3: keep us from getting the one seed?
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Speaker 2: That makes sense?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the NFC was I think the second part,
30:20
Speaker 4: like the second course, it's winning the NFC.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's in the lyrics, some of the forgotten lyrics.
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Speaker 3: You used to paint them on the shower wall. With
30:30
Speaker 3: you know, so fingernail paint. Oh yeah, yeah, everybody knows
30:33
Speaker 3: that's how that's his inspiration. Mike McDonald after yesterday's thirty
30:38
Speaker 3: eight thirty seven incredible overtime win over the Los Angeles Rams.
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Speaker 3: Humelin's going to join us to the top of the hour,
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Speaker 3: Mike homeran at nine o'clock, So two hours of breaking
30:46
Speaker 3: it down with two of the best in the business.
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Speaker 3: So we'll get to that in a moment. Coach McDonald
30:52
Speaker 3: also was benefited by going three for three on two
30:56
Speaker 3: point tries last night, including the game winner, and I
31:01
Speaker 3: guess he felt it necessary to explain why he went.
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Speaker 2: For two at the end of the game.
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Speaker 10: Followed something we had talked about really throughout the season
31:10
Speaker 10: and then really particularly for this game because of the
31:12
Speaker 10: playoff situation. You know, you play for the tie and
31:17
Speaker 10: you know, make the lock up of playoffs seed. But
31:19
Speaker 10: I just felt like I just felt great about our
31:21
Speaker 10: play and I trusted our guys and to clintch credit
31:25
Speaker 10: to he was really confident, and then the players ultimately
31:28
Speaker 10: make it happen. So once we got that drive going,
31:31
Speaker 10: it was pretty clear on what we're going to see.
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Speaker 3: The number one seed in the playoffs, not just make
31:35
Speaker 3: the playoffs. I mean, I don't even think it was decision.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I.
31:39
Speaker 3: Get that maybe getting the tie, but you were going
31:42
Speaker 3: to give them the ball back and time on the clock.
31:46
Speaker 3: I mean, to me, that was not even a decision.
31:49
Speaker 3: I mean, what good does a tie get you to
31:51
Speaker 3: winning the NFC West. You had to have a win
31:54
Speaker 3: last night because you would have still been losing the
31:56
Speaker 3: tie breaker to the Rams. So I'm surprised to even
31:59
Speaker 3: gave it that much thought. I thought that was as
32:01
Speaker 3: obvious as the sun rises that they were going to
32:04
Speaker 3: go for.
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Speaker 2: Two right there.
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Speaker 7: When they ended up talking about it on the broadcast,
32:07
Speaker 7: I wonder what they'll do, and then they said, well
32:10
Speaker 7: they would. You would think they would have to go
32:12
Speaker 7: for it, simply because at this point they were oh
32:14
Speaker 7: and one and an O one and one against them.
32:18
Speaker 7: Doesn't you're not gonna you don't win that tie breaker.
32:20
Speaker 7: So to me, it seemed like a no brainer. But
32:23
Speaker 7: at the same time, boy, there's a lot on the
32:25
Speaker 7: line there, right, I mean, you do your chances of
32:28
Speaker 7: getting the ball back, because what there was there three
32:30
Speaker 7: minutes left, three minutes and change.
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Speaker 3: You're not getting the ball back. Are you're giving them
32:34
Speaker 3: as their chance probably do well. You could possibly, but yeah,
32:37
Speaker 3: chances are no.
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Speaker 7: I mean, if you if you get another three and out,
32:40
Speaker 7: you could then you know, you could have played for
32:42
Speaker 7: the tie in three and out, get a decent punt
32:44
Speaker 7: return and complete one pass and kick yourself a sixty
32:47
Speaker 7: yard field goal. We've seen it happen before. I mean,
32:48
Speaker 7: three minutes is a lot longer in today's game than
32:51
Speaker 7: it is. But I just didn't think. To me, it
32:53
Speaker 7: was it was a no brainer. You just go for
32:55
Speaker 7: the jugger. You're a home you got all the momentum,
32:58
Speaker 7: the fact, I mean, the fact that the Rams head.
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Speaker 3: They're clearly awesome at two point conversions. Yeah, even when
33:05
Speaker 3: you fail, you succeed.
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Speaker 7: That's yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, the stars were aligned. I
33:09
Speaker 7: think it was a no brainer to go for it,
33:11
Speaker 7: and obviously it worked out big win.
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Speaker 3: Thirty eight thirty seven man Hugh Millin is chewing through
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Speaker 3: the walls at his home to get on the air
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Speaker 3: and talk about this. I guarantee it, So we're not
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