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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Time to Say Goodbye! · Clydesdale Media Podcast

• 0:14
  What is going on, everybody?
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  Welcome to the original Sunday, Sunday,
• 0:20
  Sunday Night CrossFit.
• 0:25
  I don't know how I got up
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  for that because every team
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  I root for stinks.
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  Flat out stinks.
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  It's been a rough weekend.
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  Yeah, we had our ups and downs.
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  Lions did great.
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  Spartans, meh.
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  I didn't watch a – normally
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  I'm a huge football fan on the weekends,
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  but I don't think I watched
• 0:48
  a single game today.
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  Yeah, I watch too much.
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  The Rams game is awesome right now.
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  It's an overtime.
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  Yeah, I was just watching that.
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  I thought Stafford was going
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  to pull it out at the end.
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  I couldn't quite get him
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  into field goal range.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  But my Penn State Nittany
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  Lions in the big matchup of
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  the weekend laid an egg,
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  but only fell to sixth in a
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  twelve team playoff this year.
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  Hopefully they can just
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  close out the year.
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  Ohio State has been their nemesis forever.
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  And it sucks because I live in Columbus.
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  And that means all week this week,
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  everybody who has never
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  watched a football game
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  will tell me how bad my team is.
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  Right.
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  Did they get smoked?
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  I'm just looking right now.
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  One score game.
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  It's not like they would say
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  that they suck.
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  It's like they got blown out.
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  They could lose by one point
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  and everybody in this city
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  will tell me how bad they are.
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  Yeah.
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  And then my Bears,
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  who I thought I had all
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  this optimism and all this hope.
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  And then the Hail Mary last
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  week that we talked about
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  going into this year, this week,
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  a lapse in defense on the
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  last play of the first half
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  to give up a touchdown.
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  And then they just fell apart.
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  And it looks like they're
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  crumbling from within.
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  And I feel like I have no
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  joy in Mudville tonight.
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  And speaking of Mudville,
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  Jamie's Detroit Lions
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  played in an utter monsoon
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  and spanked the Green Bay Packers.
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  They did.
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  I got a little nervous there
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  at the beginning with
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  Branch getting ejected.
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  But, yeah.
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  They didn't seem to need him today.
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  I guess not.
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  And I hate the Packers.
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  I don't like the Lions,
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  but I hate the Packers.
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  How can you not like the Lions?
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  We've been terrible for so long.
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  We're in the Bears' division.
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  I can't like them.
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  Yeah, that's fair.
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  And then we're going to
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  touch on one more piece of sports news,
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  and then we'll get into the
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  CrossFit stuff.
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  But I wanted to share this
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  because I thought this was really cool.
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  In telling us where we are today in sports,
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  I'm going to share the screen.
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  Paige Bukers becomes the
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  first college player to get
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  a Nike sneaker, a signature Nike sneaker.
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  Love it.
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  I like her a lot as a player,
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  and I like her personality
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  on social media.
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  She's an amazing shooter.
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  She's an amazing player.
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  The shoe is freaking awesome.
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  I love the looks of it.
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  And then it actually has
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  stuff for her on the tongue.
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  But there's a look of... Good colors.
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  I like the colors a lot.
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  Yeah.
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  That's crazy.
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  She's seriously the first
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  college player ever to have a shoe.
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  Nike.
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  It says Nike.
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  Okay.
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  But you also have to think
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  about a lot of the players
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  couldn't get like big deals
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  and stuff before because
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  you couldn't accept any
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  money and as a scholarship
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  athlete and just now you
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  can have some endorsement deals.
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  So that's awesome for her.
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  Yeah.
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  Page buckets.
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  You have the NIL issue.
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  And then in men's college basketball,
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  so many leave early.
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  I think that's why women's
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  basketball is taking off
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  because you know the
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  players and what team they're on.
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  Yeah.
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  And you can follow them for four years.
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  On the men's side,
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  it's just a shuffle all the time.
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  And you know, living in Lansing, Michigan,
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  I mean, Michigan State,
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  the players just roll in
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  and out all the time and
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  you really don't have a
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  consistent team year after year.
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  The women's college game is
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  kicking off this week, I think.
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  Crazy that we're starting
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  that season already, too.
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  That is crazy.
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  Not ready.
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  Huge shout out.
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  She's going to be the player of the year.
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  As long as she stays healthy.
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  She's had some bad luck the
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  last few years.
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  As long as she stays healthy,
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  Juju and other players can certainly
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  for that player of the year.
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  Yeah, I have an East Coast bias, I guess.
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  But it's hard for me to stay
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  up late for those.
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  Now that the Big Ten has
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  games on the West Coast, oh my goodness,
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  trying to stay up to watch
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  like Oregon and Michigan.
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  It was on early yesterday,
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  but those games now could
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  be on at ten thirty at
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  night and it's going to be
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  tough on this old body.
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  Yes, Indiana Fever has a new coach.
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  Not surprising.
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  Stephanie White, I think.
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  Stephanie White, yeah.
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  She was Connecticut's coach last year.
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  She played for Indiana as well.
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  Oh, okay, cool.
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  It was like a very,
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  very predictable signing.
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  Yeah, I heard it was,
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  like I saw it being predicted,
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  and then it came to
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  fruition at the end of the week.
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  So, yeah.
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  Fun stuff in all sports.
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  So that's awesome.
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  But we want to talk about
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  some of the CrossFit stuff.
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  And we're going to start off
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  with the all access behind the scenes.
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  We are nearing the end of
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  the eleven part documentary.
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  Episode nine comes out
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  tomorrow at twelve thirty p.m.
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  I have a trailer for it,
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  but I want to send out a
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  huge thank you to the
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  sponsors who made it possible,
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  which was Beck Bodie.
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  They're a financial company
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  that helps people financial plan.
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  And when you watch the video,
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  there's a QR code.
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  You can hit that and they
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  can help you out with all
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  of your financial planning needs.
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  And they love working with
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  CrossFitters because they
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  know all about goal setting
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  and doing the steps it
• 7:04
  takes to reach those goals.
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  And that's kind of how they
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  set up CrossFitters.
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  The Financial Plan.
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  So make sure you check that out.
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  And of course, Thick Boy,
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  who has been behind us in so many ways.
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  And that documentary specifically,
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  those were two big sponsors
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  that got me to Birmingham
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  and got me to film and got
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  me an editor for the workout stuff.
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  So thank you so much to them.
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  Without them, this wouldn't be possible.
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  But tomorrow,
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  we're going to hit up Workout Eight,
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  which was the Toaster Bar,
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  Burpee Over Bar, and Heavy Clean,
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  which our very own Jamie
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  Latimer took second in.
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  But yeah, so we are going to hit that up.
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  And I have a little preview.
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  No real theme this week.
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  It's just kind of a
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  smattering of some of the interviews,
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  really small segments of them.
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  And I'm going to play that now.
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  so you get the best of both
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  worlds you get to have fun
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  but you also are competing
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  against the very best if
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  you think about the math
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  it's point zero zero one
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  percent is what's here in
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  the final stage so after
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  tasting it once do you want
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  to come oh yeah I'm coming
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  back you ain't gotta worry
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  I'm tasting it once I'm
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  already thinking about next
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  season yeah the workout
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  here the barbell like
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  depending on what side you
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  have to start on,
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  you have to turn a separate direction,
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  and it was just so confusing.
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  And my brain was not understanding it,
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  and the poor judge is like, oh my God,
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  just tell me what to do.
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  Help me, help me, sir.
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  Oh my God, it's not your fault,
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  I just don't understand.
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  I'm gonna say fuck a lot,
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  I'm really sorry.
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  But we figured it out,
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  so I got seven rounds,
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  so I feel good about it.
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  So in these moments,
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  are you just an ear to listen,
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  or are you giving him strategies?
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  A little bit of both.
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  I mean,
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  I don't know what I'm talking about
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  quite as much as he does,
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  but a little bit of both.
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  Ear to listen, mainly.
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  Just let him talk it out,
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  work through it in his head.
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  How nervous do you get
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  before you go somewhere?
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  Real nervous.
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  Real nervous.
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  What did he say?
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  Like I look like an FBI agent.
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  Like, excuse me, sir,
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  we've got a security breach.
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  So being part of this community,
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  it becomes more than the workouts.
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  It becomes more than the leaderboard.
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  It's just the camaraderie.
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  It's more than I expected for this event.
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  And that means the world.
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  That's what keeps you going.
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  That's what gets you up in
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  the morning and say, all right, day three,
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  let's go.
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  Hey, back up.
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  Old hat?
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  Old hat with the stuff?
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  No.
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  Feels like the first time every time.
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  It's horrible.
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  I wish it felt like old hat, but no.
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  So this is your first bus with him.
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  Sure is.
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  Are you having a ball?
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  I'm having so much fun.
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  I've learned a lot in a
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  really short amount of time.
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  It's cool.
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  It's like I was fit enough to get here,
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  and then it's just the depth of field.
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  It's just wild.
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  Girls are so good, so...
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  That's a trailer, episode nine,
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  tomorrow at twelve thirty p.m.
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  Shout out Jonathan Ortega,
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  Ellie Hiller and Holly Dugan,
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  major players in putting this together.
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  Couldn't have done it without them.
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  As always, Jonathan and Holly.
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  contributing continuously
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  week after week with stuff
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  for these documentaries and
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  ellie hiller that the
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  weekend getting some of the
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  post uh event footage
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  couldn't have done it
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  without her what's one
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  thing I hated from that
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  workout montage do you know
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  it I don't know the workout
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  just I hate step over
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  burpees oh yeah I know
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  hate it.
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  They were allowed.
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  It is part of the rules.
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  I just personally... Did you do it?
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  Jamie, did you do it?
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  I think I stepped my last
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  burpee on maybe all the rounds.
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  Maybe all but one round.
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  Just to kind of get a
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  breather before going back?
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  Yeah.
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  Plus I had to step, step.
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  Yeah, that's true.
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  Yeah, like what Katrina was talking about.
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  You had to face certain ways
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  for certain things.
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  And depending on what side
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  of the or what stagger you had,
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  your rules were different,
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  which made it really confusing.
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  And a lot of athletes messed that up.
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  And it made it hard to see
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  who was winning.
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  And some people, it seemed,
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  had a straight shot down
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  and straight shot back.
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  Others had to do this twisty
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  thing as they were going,
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  which I feel didn't equate
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  to evening out the
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  difference in the bar stagger, for sure.
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  But it was still a great event.
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  Yeah, it was a good event.
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  Still a great event.
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  It's amazing how many people
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  really dreaded that clean.
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  Yeah.
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  Because the people that were
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  really good at the other
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  two things were really
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  dreading the clean.
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  Yes.
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  Because it was definitely heavy.
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  And that's kind of what you get in these,
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  this behind the scenes.
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  So that's that.
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  That'll be tomorrow.
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  So excited how these are coming out.
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  And I don't know if he knows,
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  a couple weeks back I got a
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  text from a friend named Lex who said,
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  why don't you put the ages,
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  age groups of each person
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  on their names so we know
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  what age group they're in.
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  And I think that has added a
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  little bit to the thing.
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  So I thank her for that suggestion.
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  Genius.
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  Yeah.
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  Just another step in the process.
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  That's all.
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  um cool so we had some big
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  news this week uh one mr
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  brent fukowski announced
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  his retirement uh he did
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  that on instagram and via
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  an exclusive interview with
• 14:06
  the morning chalk up and
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  here is his instagram post
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  he said after twelve years
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  competing in the sport the
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  twenty twenty four rogue
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  invitational will be my
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  last competition it's been
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  a tough decision knowing
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  I'm still at my best and
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  improving but the
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  excitement for a new set of
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  challenges far outweighs my sadness
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  I have saying goodbye to
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  this chapter of my life.
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  The level of focus I gave while competing,
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  I can now put into what is
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  setting my soul on fire,
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  improving this sport via
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  the PFAA to help the next
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  generation have it better than I did.
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  Don't expect me to give
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  anything less than a
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  hundred percent next week
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  at the Rogue Invitational.
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  I plan to go out with a bang.
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  I'm going to open the floor
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  to you two if you have
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  anything you would like to
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  share about Brent.
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  I have a couple notes of
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  things that I'd like to share.
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  I will give a couple career highlights.
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  Three podiums, two bronze and a silver,
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  three fourth-place finishes,
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  and for a big stretch,
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  dominated the West Regional.
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  And one of the fourth-place
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  finishes was a tie as well.
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  He just lost the tiebreaker there.
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  Yeah, that was, uh,
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  it was the guy with the
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  little flag blank.
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  He never really competed much after that.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm sure Patrick comments, I think.
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  I mean,
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  I feel like I grew up in the sport
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  of CrossFit watching him, right?
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  Because he was basically my
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  generation of qualification
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  and regional side.
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  I felt like I've watched his career.
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  Lucas Holmberg, that's what he did.
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  Or whatever his name is.
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  Yeah, I mean,
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  he's had an impressive career.
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  He's getting at that age where
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  you know it's it's a lot on
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  the body and he's got a kid
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  as well um he's been
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  involved with the pfa and
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  like he said he has if that
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  desire to like train as
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  hard as he did before isn't
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  quite there and he's found
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  a new passion in terms of
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  trying to put the sport in
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  a better place like you can't
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  fault him for, you know,
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  going that direction.
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  And I'm sure he's going to
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  do the best job that he can with that.
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  And yeah,
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  he's had super impressive career.
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  Like he would be in that
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  hall of fame list that we, you know,
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  we talked about prior and
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  he definitely helped the
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  sport of CrossFit in Canada grow.
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  He's one of the main, you know,
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  athletes that Canadians
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  have looked up to all these years.
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  So yeah,
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  he's earned it.
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  Yeah.
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  He's a happy retirement to
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  him and looking forward to
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  seeing him compete next weekend.
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  And hopefully he finishes
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  out his career on a great note.
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  you think this will be a
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  trend I'll give it up to
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  jimmy here in a second do
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  you think this will be a
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  trend you know carrie
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  pierce announced her
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  retirement did rogue to
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  finish it off uh kristen
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  holta kind of did the same
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  thing she did one more um
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  if-three uh as well before
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  she finished but they both
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  had that like final moment
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  on the rogue competition floor
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  I think Carrie put her shoes down.
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  Kristen didn't do that,
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  but do you think that's
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  going to be the trend going
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  forward for the Hall of Famers?
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  I think so.
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  I think it's hard to say no to Rogue.
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  You come off the games,
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  you have everything paid for for Rogue.
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  There's less pressure,
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  so just finishing off with
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  a little bit of...
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  um you know a more intimate
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  competition I guess I think
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  makes sense um and you just
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  finish off that year there
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  and then you take your off
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  season basically after that
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  and not really off season
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  whatever you want to call
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  it your new season your new
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  reality but I think it
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  makes sense yeah yeah jamie
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  I mean,
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  I'll be curious to see if he just
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  means he's retiring from
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  CrossFit HQ events.
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  Um,
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  will he like continue to try to do
• 18:33
  Wadapalooza, do team stuff,
• 18:35
  do things that he, that he can,
• 18:36
  or is he like truly done competing?
• 18:38
  I've in a way, I mean, I can see, I mean,
• 18:44
  he put himself kind of in a
• 18:46
  bad spot asking for a
• 18:49
  somewhat of an ultimatum.
• 18:51
  Um,
• 18:52
  But I do think his... He
• 18:54
  seems genuine in his care for the PFAA.
• 18:59
  That does seem to be a place
• 19:01
  where his heart lies.
• 19:02
  So...
• 19:03
  putting his time and energy
• 19:04
  into that is I can't blame him for that.
• 19:07
  I,
• 19:07
  I find it hard to believe that he's
• 19:08
  going to totally stop competing though.
• 19:10
  Like that's in those people's DNA.
• 19:13
  The thing that's hard with
• 19:14
  our sport is like you,
• 19:15
  you do all the other sports.
• 19:16
  Like when I retired from hockey last year,
• 19:18
  like it's very easy for me
• 19:19
  to not play hockey, but in CrossFit,
• 19:22
  you're still going to continue to train.
• 19:25
  Right.
• 19:25
  And for the most part, right.
• 19:26
  Most people will continue to
• 19:27
  train and stay active and, and be Finn,
• 19:29
  whether they choose to do
• 19:30
  CrossFit or they choose to do more, um,
• 19:33
  Um, outdoor stuff like,
• 19:34
  like road biking or mountain biking,
• 19:37
  running like that,
• 19:38
  that is a separate thing.
• 19:39
  They might do other races and stuff,
• 19:41
  but it's, you know, you,
• 19:43
  you're still fit.
• 19:44
  And if you enter,
• 19:45
  if you ever enter the open and stuff,
• 19:46
  like you're still kind of competitive.
• 19:48
  And I think that's why you
• 19:49
  see a lot of these athletes, uh,
• 19:51
  You know,
• 19:52
  one year or not even a full year
• 19:54
  after retirement, you know,
• 19:55
  still dip their toes in in
• 19:57
  the water of certain competitions.
• 20:00
  And then, oh,
• 20:00
  they still have all this
• 20:01
  fitness that they've built
• 20:02
  from all these years and
• 20:04
  all these repetitions that
• 20:05
  they're still very
• 20:06
  competitive worldwide and
• 20:10
  can qualify for these things.
• 20:11
  So then I think it is easy to.
• 20:14
  you know,
• 20:14
  compete here and there as a team
• 20:16
  or just less pressure on
• 20:17
  yourself and still have
• 20:19
  other balance in your life
• 20:20
  and focus elsewhere.
• 20:22
  Yeah.
• 20:23
  How old is Brent?
• 20:24
  Like, thirty-two?
• 20:25
  I think he's thirty-three.
• 20:27
  I mean,
• 20:28
  I can see the guy possibly...
• 20:32
  Depending on how many
• 20:33
  athletes kind of push this
• 20:35
  thirty-five bracket,
• 20:37
  I could see him stepping
• 20:38
  into that stage possibly if things...
• 20:43
  go the direction he wants it
• 20:44
  to go if he's able to get
• 20:46
  this pfa to take off um and
• 20:49
  crossfit is in a position
• 20:50
  he feels like he wants to
• 20:53
  represent that I could see
• 20:54
  him doing that but yeah I
• 20:55
  could see him just doing
• 20:56
  things like water close our team stuff
• 21:00
  And we talked about the PFAA
• 21:02
  and the fact that when you
• 21:03
  have active athletes in the sport,
• 21:06
  it's hard to get certain stuff.
• 21:08
  And maybe he realizes that
• 21:10
  and he can have a different
• 21:11
  role even with CrossFit.
• 21:13
  And he's not affiliated with
• 21:14
  any training camp.
• 21:16
  He's the perfect athlete
• 21:17
  technically with the
• 21:18
  experience as a competitor
• 21:21
  and not have any skin in
• 21:22
  the game with other players
• 21:25
  that are competing that he could...
• 21:28
  either do testing,
• 21:29
  either do have some input
• 21:32
  on safety procedures or how
• 21:35
  to run certain things better.
• 21:37
  And he's not involved now in
• 21:38
  terms of the competition side.
• 21:39
  And maybe that's attractive to him.
• 21:40
  They could even give him a paid contract.
• 21:44
  Who knows?
• 21:44
  And maybe that was the thing
• 21:45
  is you can't be a
• 21:46
  competitor if you are working for,
• 21:49
  you know,
• 21:49
  this part of either CrossFit or PFA,
• 21:52
  but yeah.
• 21:55
  I think I'll get into my PFA
• 21:56
  part of my discussion in a minute,
• 21:58
  but I want to talk about
• 21:59
  him as the athlete and the person first.
• 22:02
  And that is, um, he was a game changer.
• 22:06
  He was really the true first
• 22:09
  tall athlete to succeed in the sport.
• 22:12
  Right.
• 22:13
  And, um, I think what,
• 22:17
  what that did is one, it,
• 22:20
  it showed other tall athletes.
• 22:21
  They could.
• 22:24
  Then I think the sport
• 22:25
  actually modified itself to
• 22:29
  almost attract more people like Brent,
• 22:33
  where we are today, the Dallins,
• 22:36
  the James, like those types of athletes.
• 22:39
  Yeah.
• 22:40
  I think one of the things
• 22:42
  that most impressed me was
• 22:44
  when he first started,
• 22:44
  he was known as the cardio guy.
• 22:46
  The chipper.
• 22:47
  He was the chipper.
• 22:48
  He'd win every chipper.
• 22:49
  Right.
• 22:50
  Worldwide.
• 22:51
  And then he got strong.
• 22:53
  And he really worked hard on
• 22:57
  his snatch and his clean
• 22:59
  and jerk to make them world class.
• 23:01
  He was technically strong.
• 23:03
  His technique was very, very good.
• 23:05
  I don't know.
• 23:07
  I'd have to look at his raw
• 23:08
  strength numbers.
• 23:09
  I think they're, they're good,
• 23:11
  but he's technically very,
• 23:12
  very good in terms of his
• 23:13
  snatching and stuff.
• 23:15
  So he, yeah.
• 23:17
  Wasn't it a clean and jerk
• 23:18
  that kind of kept him out of the games.
• 23:21
  And then he ended up.
• 23:26
  The one year it was a clean
• 23:27
  and jerk for sure.
• 23:28
  Maybe.
• 23:28
  Yeah.
• 23:32
  And then he worked on that
• 23:33
  and has gotten much better
• 23:35
  at that where it wasn't
• 23:36
  even a deficiency for him, which was very,
• 23:39
  very impressive.
• 23:41
  Um,
• 23:41
  a couple of memories I have of him are
• 23:43
  the ranch run where Sam
• 23:45
  Briggs was trying to catch him.
• 23:46
  I thought that was a classic moment.
• 23:48
  Um, the snatch that he levitated, uh,
• 23:52
  when he went over three
• 23:53
  hundred pounds and it came
• 23:55
  down and he did the like
• 23:57
  out like he was almost
• 23:58
  levitating the bar down.
• 24:00
  Um.
• 24:02
  And then personally,
• 24:04
  he's been on the show a couple times.
• 24:06
  He spent more time with us
• 24:07
  after the record button
• 24:09
  went off than he did while
• 24:11
  the record button was on.
• 24:13
  And he was so giving of his time.
• 24:15
  He gave us notes on stuff he
• 24:17
  had taken from previous years.
• 24:19
  He was always a very giving
• 24:22
  individual and one of my
• 24:25
  favorite people of all time
• 24:26
  because of the way he acted
• 24:29
  when the cameras weren't on.
• 24:31
  Right.
• 24:31
  He didn't have to do that.
• 24:32
  The cameras were off.
• 24:33
  Interview is over.
• 24:35
  And he spent as much time
• 24:36
  after the interview as we did on the air,
• 24:39
  probably more.
• 24:41
  And really,
• 24:42
  really dove into media stuff
• 24:45
  with us and his opinions
• 24:47
  and where he thought it should be.
• 24:48
  And and how can you be
• 24:50
  differentiate yourself and
• 24:52
  like almost being a mentor,
• 24:54
  which was really, really cool.
• 25:00
  and he does I know Patrick
• 25:01
  is saying can't wait to
• 25:02
  hear him providing color
• 25:04
  for a broadcast I think
• 25:06
  that's going to be amazing
• 25:07
  because he does have strong
• 25:09
  opinions about what a color
• 25:10
  commentator should be and
• 25:12
  he shared those notes with
• 25:13
  me and it's going to be
• 25:15
  amazing to see if he can pull that off
• 25:18
  Yeah.
• 25:19
  He's so well versed in the sport.
• 25:21
  Brent is a great speaker.
• 25:24
  I like to hear him talk.
• 25:26
  He doesn't fumble around his words.
• 25:28
  I think he would be excellent.
• 25:32
  He changed the game for a lot of things.
• 25:34
  He would go over the video
• 25:35
  review process for people.
• 25:37
  He changed the games in
• 25:38
  terms of how to study your
• 25:40
  workouts and try to find
• 25:41
  the smallest little parts
• 25:43
  of your strengths and
• 25:44
  weaknesses to better your score.
• 25:46
  He would really study the movements,
• 25:49
  the timing of things,
• 25:50
  how long everything would take.
• 25:52
  He was very intuitive.
• 25:55
  He would think about
• 25:55
  different ways to climb the rope or
• 25:58
  I remember he pulled out a
• 26:01
  split snatch or something at,
• 26:03
  at one of the events.
• 26:04
  And it's like,
• 26:04
  he had stuff in his back
• 26:05
  pocket always just from
• 26:07
  years of training and,
• 26:08
  and taking notes and being
• 26:10
  that professor.
• 26:11
  And like, I think that's another thing,
• 26:13
  thing that I take away from,
• 26:15
  him is just like the
• 26:16
  attention to detail that he
• 26:17
  always had in the sport.
• 26:19
  And I think that's important
• 26:21
  for others to see that.
• 26:24
  And that's what it took for him to,
• 26:26
  you know, make it to the top and,
• 26:28
  and to be successful.
• 26:30
  Corbin Dallas says,
• 26:31
  I think AJ Bartow is taller.
• 26:32
  I think he was too,
• 26:34
  but he did not ever see
• 26:35
  this that Brent did.
• 26:37
  Right.
• 26:39
  AJ was kind of a one trick
• 26:40
  pony when it came to the
• 26:41
  games and he was really
• 26:43
  good at that one pony,
• 26:45
  but that's all he had.
• 26:51
  So when it comes, so now that like,
• 26:54
  and that's why it's been
• 26:55
  tough for me to comment on
• 26:56
  the PFAA for a while, because I really,
• 26:58
  really respect Brent as a
• 27:00
  person and I really like him a lot.
• 27:02
  And he has come on our show
• 27:04
  several times and it's been
• 27:05
  awesome every time he's been here.
• 27:08
  But I do think, I wonder,
• 27:10
  has like the stuff that
• 27:11
  Carolyn's been saying about
• 27:13
  active athletes cannot have
• 27:15
  this position.
• 27:16
  And I know that we're not
• 27:17
  the only people saying that.
• 27:20
  Did that affect this
• 27:21
  decision that maybe he can
• 27:22
  be better at this position
• 27:25
  if he isn't an active athlete?
• 27:29
  My questions are,
• 27:31
  as we've been researching into the PFAA,
• 27:33
  you can't be a board member
• 27:35
  if you're not an active athlete.
• 27:38
  so are they going to modify
• 27:39
  their own rules so that
• 27:42
  brent can be a board member
• 27:43
  of his own thing or is he
• 27:44
  going to be a separate
• 27:46
  piece of that it's going to
• 27:47
  be interesting to see how
• 27:49
  they deal with that yeah I
• 27:52
  mean in a lot of sports
• 27:53
  they have like uh like the
• 27:55
  nhlpa alum and well I
• 27:56
  wonder if there's I mean I
• 27:59
  think he's gonna be like
• 28:00
  the president is what he
• 28:01
  said in one of the in the article
• 28:03
  When you look at players associations,
• 28:05
  there is a person who is
• 28:06
  not a player that is the
• 28:08
  main negotiator and is the main person.
• 28:11
  And it's so that the players
• 28:12
  don't get into the weeds
• 28:14
  and the sticky situations with ownership,
• 28:16
  right?
• 28:17
  You know, famously,
• 28:18
  Donald Fear is the one that
• 28:20
  changed how baseball
• 28:21
  structured everything.
• 28:23
  He was an attorney.
• 28:24
  And he did all the
• 28:26
  negotiating for the Major
• 28:27
  League Baseball Players Association.
• 28:30
  No player was involved in that.
• 28:31
  And it was ugly.
• 28:33
  And he was able to be ugly
• 28:35
  because he wasn't a player.
• 28:38
  If that makes sense.
• 28:40
  So apparently president is
• 28:43
  often a non-athlete.
• 28:46
  And so maybe that's the
• 28:48
  position he'll become.
• 28:51
  And I think it's going to be
• 28:52
  interesting to see if they, again,
• 28:55
  I beg and plead that the
• 28:56
  PFAA represent more
• 28:57
  athletes than they do.
• 29:00
  That's my biggest beef.
• 29:03
  I love the athletes.
• 29:04
  I want to protect the athletes,
• 29:05
  but I love the Masters athletes.
• 29:07
  And I love the team athletes.
• 29:09
  And I wish they had representation too.
• 29:14
  That is my plea to the PFAA.
• 29:19
  But I think he had these
• 29:20
  plans of retiring at the
• 29:22
  beginning of the season.
• 29:25
  And regardless of what
• 29:26
  happened at the games,
• 29:29
  I think that this was his plan all along.
• 29:31
  I think that Hopper wrote
• 29:33
  something like that in
• 29:34
  response to Hiller's post
• 29:36
  on Instagram earlier today,
• 29:38
  that this was his last competition.
• 29:42
  I guess the game was his last games.
• 29:46
  And I think when you can end
• 29:48
  your career...
• 29:50
  You know,
• 29:52
  it gets your decision.
• 29:53
  It's not like you didn't
• 29:54
  qualify and it was ended for you.
• 29:58
  I think that's also a good
• 29:59
  way to step out of, um, of the sport.
• 30:03
  But yeah, I mean, that's why like, uh,
• 30:05
  now that like I see him retire,
• 30:07
  like it also validates to
• 30:09
  me another reason as to
• 30:10
  like why he chose also
• 30:12
  probably to continue the competition,
• 30:14
  knowing that this was in
• 30:16
  the back of his mind, his last,
• 30:18
  his last competition, because to me, um,
• 30:21
  when you put those demands,
• 30:22
  but then you continue to
• 30:23
  comp to compete at the competition.
• 30:26
  I felt as an athlete, like that's like,
• 30:28
  which like, if you want safety,
• 30:30
  like maybe like that was
• 30:31
  the time maybe to step away
• 30:32
  and he continued and maybe
• 30:34
  he had other reasons.
• 30:35
  And this, you know,
• 30:36
  this to me shows maybe that that's,
• 30:38
  you know, that was a big reason for him.
• 30:39
  Like he already knew that
• 30:40
  this was his last season
• 30:42
  and he wanted to also do that for, um,
• 30:45
  himself and then also his
• 30:47
  way of honoring lazar was
• 30:48
  also to continue to
• 30:50
  continue to compete so I
• 30:51
  think a lot of just
• 30:53
  reflection on that when he
• 30:55
  announced his retirement I
• 30:56
  know this year's games
• 30:57
  weren't ideal but he did go
• 31:00
  out on the podium yep
• 31:02
  which, you know,
• 31:04
  you look at other sports
• 31:05
  when John Elway went out as
• 31:07
  a Super Bowl champion.
• 31:09
  Like, that means something.
• 31:12
  That's huge when you go out
• 31:13
  winning the championship.
• 31:15
  I know he didn't win it,
• 31:16
  but he wore the leader's
• 31:17
  jersey on the last event.
• 31:19
  Um,
• 31:20
  and the picture that I actually put for
• 31:22
  the thumbnail,
• 31:23
  I believe is from the last event, um,
• 31:26
  tonight, uh,
• 31:27
  cause he does have the leader shorts on.
• 31:30
  Um,
• 31:31
  and I wanted to show him in the leader
• 31:32
  shorts.
• 31:33
  That was kind of my, my idea behind that.
• 31:36
  Um,
• 31:37
  and I got that picture at this year's
• 31:38
  games, but, um, anyway, um,
• 31:42
  Kudos to Brent.
• 31:43
  Great career.
• 31:44
  Thank you for being one hell
• 31:45
  of a person and being
• 31:47
  awesome to us on this show,
• 31:49
  as well as I know you've
• 31:50
  been that way to other
• 31:51
  people as well and continued success.
• 31:55
  And I hope that what you do
• 31:57
  in the future is amazing.
• 31:59
  Representing athletes in the
• 32:00
  right way to further the
• 32:03
  sport for all of us.
• 32:08
  I wonder if you'd get into coaching too,
• 32:10
  maybe down the road.
• 32:12
  Programming coaching,
• 32:13
  if that interests him at all.
• 32:14
  He has some programming.
• 32:16
  Yeah.
• 32:16
  Like I've taken his snatch
• 32:18
  programming that he has.
• 32:21
  Um, yeah.
• 32:24
  When you talk to him about it,
• 32:26
  it doesn't sound like a
• 32:27
  passion thing for him.
• 32:28
  Yeah.
• 32:29
  It's like, hey,
• 32:30
  I have all these notes from what I did.
• 32:32
  And so I just share them with the world.
• 32:35
  It's more of like, hey,
• 32:36
  I've got all this stuff.
• 32:38
  It's just sitting here.
• 32:40
  Here you go.
• 32:42
  Rather than like, hey,
• 32:44
  this is what I want to do.
• 32:45
  Yeah, the professor project.
• 32:50
  Yeah.
• 32:51
  And doesn't he has friends
• 32:53
  that help him with all that?
• 32:56
  Yeah.
• 32:57
  Like his coach is Yeah, he Yeah,
• 32:59
  he has a coach,
• 33:00
  which I feel like is who
• 33:01
  actually works with Shelby.
• 33:04
  I think we're mentors a little bit.
• 33:06
  Yeah.
• 33:09
  Yeah.
• 33:11
  So great career.
• 33:14
  Kudos to you.
• 33:15
  Can't wait to see what happens next.
• 33:20
  Next this week,
• 33:21
  we also had an announcement
• 33:23
  from Will Morad,
• 33:25
  an announcement that something is coming.
• 33:29
  Is this what they call a
• 33:30
  hold the date card?
• 33:32
  Yeah, save the date, yeah.
• 33:33
  Save the date.
• 33:36
  Don't really know what's coming, but hey,
• 33:39
  save the date.
• 33:42
  um I will say that um
• 33:44
  there's nothing of
• 33:45
  substance at this point and
• 33:47
  I have not talked to will
• 33:48
  in a minute to know any
• 33:50
  more than that um but I
• 33:53
  will say that in my time
• 33:56
  during the games and the
• 33:57
  masters crossfit games when
• 34:00
  I was hanging around the
• 34:01
  ttt folks there was
• 34:04
  rumblings of something coming
• 34:07
  different league and I don't
• 34:10
  think it was I don't think
• 34:11
  it had anything to do with
• 34:13
  what happened with Lazar
• 34:14
  and I don't think wills has
• 34:15
  anything to do with what
• 34:16
  happened with Lazar I think
• 34:18
  it is hey we need to make a
• 34:20
  better structured season
• 34:22
  and this is our effort to do so so
• 34:30
  And when I say I heard it
• 34:32
  around the TTT folks,
• 34:33
  I don't think TTT had
• 34:34
  anything much to do with this.
• 34:36
  Maybe they did.
• 34:37
  I am not saying that in any way.
• 34:39
  It's just Will is a TTT athlete,
• 34:42
  and that's who he was
• 34:43
  hanging out with at the
• 34:44
  Masters Games and at the CrossFit Games.
• 34:49
  Right.
• 34:51
  I didn't even know he was TTT.
• 34:54
  He was originally and just
• 34:56
  went back this season.
• 34:59
  he was proven and then went
• 35:00
  back to yeah he was a coach
• 35:02
  at proven left and now is
• 35:04
  coached by max got it yeah
• 35:10
  so um and max was at the
• 35:11
  masters games um as well as
• 35:14
  a plethora of their other
• 35:15
  coaches uh because it was a
• 35:17
  short drive from georgia
• 35:20
  yeah I mean and ttt just
• 35:21
  did their podcast the other
• 35:23
  night talking about the season and
• 35:27
  I don't feel like they went
• 35:28
  much into Will's side,
• 35:31
  more of just the game
• 35:33
  season being online mostly
• 35:35
  and their rumors that they've heard.
• 35:37
  So there's obviously been
• 35:38
  all kinds of rumors all over the place,
• 35:40
  right?
• 35:43
  When I started to listen to that one, too,
• 35:45
  I actually listened to it
• 35:46
  going to bed and fell asleep.
• 35:48
  So I have to go back and
• 35:49
  listen to like probably the second half.
• 35:51
  But it felt like at the
• 35:53
  beginning they knew they
• 35:54
  were very careful of what
• 35:56
  they knew and what they
• 35:57
  just wanted to talk about.
• 35:59
  Right.
• 36:00
  I agree.
• 36:01
  I mean, yeah,
• 36:02
  it's almost like they know
• 36:03
  that it's going to be online,
• 36:05
  which I feel like at this point.
• 36:07
  that seems to be all but confirmed.
• 36:09
  Like everyone has agreed
• 36:10
  that that is the case.
• 36:12
  It is going to be whether,
• 36:15
  whether it's fully online
• 36:17
  or partially online with some sanctionals,
• 36:20
  right?
• 36:22
  Uh,
• 36:22
  Patrick Clark says this sounds like
• 36:23
  spring professional football league, XFL,
• 36:26
  UFL, USFL.
• 36:27
  I've said the exact same
• 36:28
  thing in past show.
• 36:30
  I really don't think there's
• 36:30
  enough money to go around
• 36:32
  to support more than one league.
• 36:33
  Um,
• 36:35
  the way they have everything
• 36:36
  structured now,
• 36:38
  but those are a couple of
• 36:39
  talking points that I just
• 36:40
  thought about this week when this came up,
• 36:42
  because I think I said last week,
• 36:44
  I don't think there's a
• 36:45
  chance of another league
• 36:46
  competing with the CrossFit games,
• 36:49
  unless you just have a boatload of money.
• 36:53
  Right.
• 36:53
  And at that point,
• 36:54
  is it sustainable model?
• 36:56
  And like,
• 36:57
  I feel like I've gone through
• 36:58
  this with the woman's
• 36:59
  hockey for like so many years.
• 37:01
  And now it's just like
• 37:01
  bringing me back to what I
• 37:04
  literally went through for
• 37:04
  so many years was we had a league.
• 37:07
  It wasn't quite professional
• 37:09
  in what we wanted.
• 37:10
  People had money.
• 37:11
  They started another league.
• 37:14
  Fans got split.
• 37:16
  it wasn't as good as, you know, media side,
• 37:19
  it looked great.
• 37:19
  And then there was a lot of
• 37:21
  stuff that behind the scenes,
• 37:22
  wasn't great about the new league.
• 37:23
  And then there were still
• 37:25
  things in ours that could improve.
• 37:26
  And then like,
• 37:27
  it was just for so many years,
• 37:28
  like we were divided.
• 37:30
  And then finally this past year,
• 37:31
  they finally created one league.
• 37:33
  And then now it's, it's back to,
• 37:35
  it's kind of taken like the best of,
• 37:37
  of both things.
• 37:38
  And now it's thriving, but it's just like,
• 37:42
  as soon as you start dividing it,
• 37:45
  like into different paths
• 37:47
  and different leagues.
• 37:48
  Like I just, I don't know.
• 37:50
  I don't think it's going to
• 37:52
  be sustainable and it can look good.
• 37:54
  Like I said,
• 37:54
  for one year and it can look
• 37:55
  good on the surface,
• 37:57
  but behind the scenes and
• 37:59
  how things will get like, like money wise,
• 38:02
  like it we'll see in two, three years,
• 38:05
  whether it could actually be a thing.
• 38:10
  But yeah.
• 38:13
  Yeah.
• 38:13
  I mean, how many,
• 38:14
  how many of these comps have,
• 38:16
  gone under and take you know
• 38:19
  like that's the last thing
• 38:20
  we need is people to get on
• 38:21
  board with one of these pay
• 38:23
  their money do a qualifier
• 38:25
  pay for pay a three hundred
• 38:26
  dollar entry fee and book
• 38:27
  hotels and just hit the fan like
• 38:32
  And you see all these
• 38:33
  sponsors giving money to
• 38:34
  CrossFit and they invest
• 38:36
  for a few years and then they're like,
• 38:37
  shit,
• 38:38
  we invested too much and now we need
• 38:40
  to pull back and rearrange
• 38:43
  our model because it's not
• 38:44
  as sunshine and rainbows as
• 38:47
  what we thought.
• 38:48
  And...
• 38:49
  we'll see, but I have a,
• 38:51
  like my gut feeling is it
• 38:53
  might be like a couple year thingy.
• 38:55
  And for some of the athletes
• 38:56
  that might be behind it, that might be,
• 38:58
  you know,
• 38:58
  while they're actively in the game,
• 39:00
  like that's what they want.
• 39:01
  But for ten, fifteen,
• 39:03
  twenty years down the road, like,
• 39:06
  do they care about it as
• 39:08
  long as they got what they
• 39:09
  needed when they were there?
• 39:10
  Like, and I guess this is exact,
• 39:13
  like this seems so much
• 39:14
  like what I've already been through.
• 39:15
  And yeah.
• 39:17
  So my thoughts this week
• 39:19
  have been that all these,
• 39:21
  like what Patrick mentioned, XFL, USFL,
• 39:25
  US football, whatever, USF,
• 39:28
  while they didn't succeed,
• 39:30
  they were innovative.
• 39:32
  And so let's take a step
• 39:35
  back and think about how
• 39:36
  can we do things better to
• 39:40
  improve what we're doing
• 39:43
  to copy what may be coming
• 39:45
  from other competitions.
• 39:46
  One, hey,
• 39:47
  how about letting us know when
• 39:48
  things are happening early
• 39:50
  enough that we can plan
• 39:52
  like our vacation time and
• 39:53
  our hotels and our flights
• 39:56
  to go to the events of the season.
• 39:59
  Two,
• 40:00
  when you go to any other sporting
• 40:02
  event and you look in the stands,
• 40:04
  everybody's wearing a jersey.
• 40:07
  The only thing CrossFit
• 40:08
  sells are shirts that say CrossFit.
• 40:14
  They don't say Carolyn Prevost.
• 40:17
  They don't say Jamie Latimer.
• 40:19
  They don't have your numbers
• 40:20
  from the games.
• 40:22
  You can get the athlete jerseys.
• 40:25
  How?
• 40:26
  And get them in a timely fashion?
• 40:29
  At the games, you always could.
• 40:31
  It's an afterthought done by
• 40:32
  the lead sponsor a couple
• 40:34
  times that never succeeded
• 40:37
  because they couldn't
• 40:38
  handle the demand of what people wanted.
• 40:43
  which tells you something
• 40:45
  you're missing out on
• 40:46
  merchandising and marketing
• 40:48
  of these things to market your sport.
• 40:54
  You've got all these
• 40:54
  training programs around
• 40:56
  make underdog shirts that
• 40:57
  can actually say CrossFit on them.
• 41:00
  Yeah.
• 41:01
  Make a mayhem shirt that can
• 41:03
  say CrossFit on them.
• 41:06
  Those are,
• 41:06
  that's a licensing you have that
• 41:09
  nobody else has.
• 41:11
  And it's a way to stream
• 41:12
  income into your business
• 41:13
  that you have not tapped into.
• 41:16
  You've let third party
• 41:17
  people do whatever the hell
• 41:18
  they wanted to.
• 41:19
  And they have to skirt
• 41:20
  around the rules and can't
• 41:22
  use the word CrossFit on them.
• 41:23
  Right.
• 41:24
  So they don't look,
• 41:26
  it's the cheap replica
• 41:27
  instead of like the real
• 41:29
  replica that has the
• 41:31
  stitched numbers and the stitched,
• 41:32
  you know what I mean?
• 41:35
  Like that is ridiculous and
• 41:37
  should be done.
• 41:39
  They also need to live stream everything.
• 41:42
  I don't care if you can't
• 41:44
  afford the big one.
• 41:45
  However,
• 41:46
  if you have to do it down and dirty,
• 41:47
  figure out a way to live
• 41:49
  stream everything.
• 41:50
  Screw the haters that jump
• 41:52
  in the comments and say
• 41:53
  it's not good enough.
• 41:55
  Make sure you do it and
• 41:57
  stream everything that goes
• 41:58
  on so that people can tune
• 42:00
  in and watch the sport.
• 42:02
  Right now, nobody can watch it.
• 42:04
  That means that you're not
• 42:05
  growing what you're doing.
• 42:09
  And then there has to be
• 42:12
  enough consistency to make a plan.
• 42:15
  You can't change the rules
• 42:17
  every freaking year and
• 42:19
  expect people to be able to follow along.
• 42:22
  Right.
• 42:23
  You just can't.
• 42:27
  Those are five things you
• 42:28
  could change that improve
• 42:30
  the sport today.
• 42:33
  Tap into other revenue streams,
• 42:36
  stream everything,
• 42:39
  announce everything early
• 42:40
  enough so people can make plans.
• 42:44
  So be consistent with your season.
• 42:49
  Okay, four.
• 42:50
  I'll leave the fifth one up
• 42:52
  to someone else in the chat.
• 42:58
  But those are four basic things.
• 43:00
  If I'm starting a league to
• 43:01
  compete or if I'm CrossFit
• 43:02
  and I want to stave off competition,
• 43:05
  that I need to do tomorrow.
• 43:09
  Because this, like,
• 43:10
  letting third parties do
• 43:12
  shirts and stuff like that
• 43:13
  and then trying to sign
• 43:14
  them on as the vendor to make the money,
• 43:17
  license it and make your
• 43:18
  own money up front.
• 43:21
  You license the shirt.
• 43:23
  You give Carolyn X percent.
• 43:26
  You give yourself a big
• 43:28
  chunk of it for selling the licensing,
• 43:30
  and the vendor gets some
• 43:31
  for making the shirt.
• 43:35
  That's what every sports league does.
• 43:38
  If I buy a Patrick Mahomes jersey,
• 43:40
  he gets a percentage of that.
• 43:44
  Which is the way it should go.
• 43:45
  I actually think more
• 43:46
  jerseys would sell if
• 43:47
  people knew that their
• 43:49
  athletes were getting them.
• 43:50
  Every time they've put them up for sale,
• 43:52
  the vendor can't handle the demand.
• 43:55
  It tells you how many people
• 43:56
  want a freaking jersey.
• 43:58
  Normally,
• 43:58
  you should have it on the website
• 44:00
  for at least a year.
• 44:01
  The athletes that were
• 44:02
  competing at the games that year,
• 44:03
  it stays on the website the
• 44:04
  full year for people to order.
• 44:06
  And then the following year,
• 44:08
  once you get the new
• 44:08
  athletes that qualify,
• 44:10
  you can have the new athletes.
• 44:12
  And then you still have the
• 44:13
  more popular ones that made
• 44:14
  it the year prior.
• 44:16
  You keep those ones on the
• 44:17
  website maybe as like,
• 44:18
  we've made too much, little deals.
• 44:22
  But yearly,
• 44:23
  you should have the current
• 44:25
  athletes that are competing
• 44:26
  in the season.
• 44:29
  We have a couple of files.
• 44:31
  Craig says,
• 44:33
  an athlete development program
• 44:34
  with teams.
• 44:36
  There's just no future for the teams.
• 44:38
  Like there's no scholarship opportunity.
• 44:40
  So like a lot of athletes
• 44:41
  that would be great in CrossFit,
• 44:42
  like why would you compete
• 44:44
  in CrossFit at a young age?
• 44:46
  Like you can,
• 44:46
  you should be using it as
• 44:48
  supplement for your sports
• 44:50
  to get a scholarship at, you know,
• 44:52
  individual sport or team
• 44:54
  sport versus specializing as a team.
• 44:57
  Because there's just like
• 44:59
  the better athletes are
• 44:59
  just not in CrossFit.
• 45:00
  Like at, at the teenage age,
• 45:02
  they're playing all these other sports.
• 45:04
  Yeah.
• 45:05
  So unless there was actually
• 45:07
  a route to go get your college paid for,
• 45:12
  then right.
• 45:17
  Make it an enjoyable in-person event.
• 45:22
  I agree.
• 45:22
  I think semifinals is very enjoyable.
• 45:25
  I think the games really stinks lately.
• 45:29
  But you're watching from a fan.
• 45:30
  How do you bring new people
• 45:32
  on that don't know the sport?
• 45:35
  Every time that there's an event,
• 45:36
  you should be able to see
• 45:37
  on the live screen what is
• 45:38
  the damn workout.
• 45:39
  Because if you just watch it
• 45:41
  right away and you don't
• 45:42
  know what's happening and
• 45:43
  you're not a part of the CrossFit sport,
• 45:45
  you should be able to see
• 45:45
  what they're doing.
• 45:47
  It just needs to be more visually...
• 45:51
  easier for not just our
• 45:54
  people watching it but
• 45:55
  people have no idea what's
• 45:56
  happening I just look at it
• 45:58
  and just know right away oh
• 45:59
  this person is in the lead
• 46:00
  uh this is what they seem
• 46:02
  to be doing live viewership
• 46:04
  which is how you're going
• 46:05
  to really grow the sport
• 46:06
  you're not going to grow
• 46:07
  the sport from people just
• 46:08
  going to fort worth or
• 46:10
  madison or wherever that's the
• 46:13
  true true fan like you're
• 46:15
  only going to get true fans
• 46:16
  showing up at the in-person
• 46:17
  event people who are
• 46:19
  knee-deep in crossfit and
• 46:21
  yeah I think half those
• 46:25
  people want to go stream
• 46:26
  everything because you need
• 46:27
  to make new fans right yes
• 46:29
  and it needs to be very
• 46:30
  visually appealing it needs
• 46:32
  to be sent kill taylor
• 46:33
  mentioned in the chat kill
• 46:35
  taylor's a great
• 46:37
  resource to get people.
• 46:38
  It's something you can stream.
• 46:40
  They stream the quarterfinals.
• 46:42
  We have said on the show
• 46:43
  that if everything goes online next year,
• 46:45
  we're going to copy what
• 46:46
  they do and try to get
• 46:47
  other athletes to jump on
• 46:49
  and do that as well.
• 46:51
  As many people that can
• 46:52
  stream what's going on, the better.
• 46:58
  But it'd be better if
• 47:02
  CrossFit tried to do the
• 47:03
  same thing or whatever the
• 47:05
  competitor's league was.
• 47:17
  Yep.
• 47:18
  Patrick says,
• 47:18
  wait till you see what we do
• 47:19
  for Belgrade games.
• 47:21
  I think you'll see some of
• 47:21
  what you just brought up in two weeks.
• 47:25
  Can't wait.
• 47:31
  Napoleon says,
• 47:33
  haven't had a Scott Cries in a while.
• 47:36
  Apparently,
• 47:37
  you've missed the beginnings of
• 47:38
  the last two shows.
• 47:41
  Yeah,
• 47:41
  that Hail Mary made you a little
• 47:42
  teary-eyed, I think.
• 47:45
  I was sobbing like a baby
• 47:47
  right before we went on air.
• 47:51
  I like a lot of my teams.
• 47:53
  I love the Chicago Bears.
• 47:56
  I love the Chicago Bears,
• 47:58
  then I love CrossFit.
• 48:00
  Chicago Bears have been in
• 48:01
  my life since nineteen eighty two.
• 48:03
  I've loved them ever since.
• 48:04
  And they break my heart week
• 48:08
  after week after week.
• 48:13
  OK, so we've talked about the league,
• 48:15
  we've talked about all that stuff.
• 48:17
  And then to rub salt in the wound,
• 48:19
  CrossFit announced this
• 48:21
  week that the details for
• 48:23
  the upcoming open will be
• 48:25
  out in December.
• 48:25
  Yeah.
• 48:26
  Yeah.
• 48:28
  have talked the last three
• 48:29
  weeks that it was like
• 48:30
  november sixth eighth I
• 48:33
  think eighth last year um
• 48:37
  now they've pushed it to
• 48:38
  december and they said that
• 48:40
  they wanted to bring out
• 48:41
  the information earlier
• 48:42
  like than yeah prior years
• 48:44
  and I'm like well is this
• 48:46
  earlier yeah but
• 48:54
  Kenneth says,
• 48:55
  I only like the Bears for Tyson Bajent.
• 48:57
  I only like Tyson Bajent
• 48:58
  because of the Bears.
• 48:59
  How about that?
• 49:02
  Scott.
• 49:03
  I actually like Tyson Bajent.
• 49:07
  Rogue kicks off this week.
• 49:09
  Carolyn,
• 49:09
  you're planning to head over to Scotland?
• 49:12
  Yep.
• 49:12
  I leave Tuesday after work.
• 49:15
  I'm a little stressed right now.
• 49:17
  I need to do a lot of things
• 49:18
  before then for my lesson
• 49:20
  plan stuff for school, but
• 49:23
  Yeah, leaving Tuesday after work.
• 49:25
  What's that flight like?
• 49:27
  I leave at six p.m.
• 49:29
  I get to London in the
• 49:32
  morning and go from London to Aberdeen.
• 49:37
  I think I get there around
• 49:38
  like nine thirty a.m.
• 49:40
  over there.
• 49:42
  On the sixth day?
• 49:43
  On the Wednesday, yeah.
• 49:45
  Wow.
• 49:46
  Yeah.
• 49:47
  Can you sleep on a plane?
• 49:49
  Normally, yes.
• 49:53
  We'll see how much sleep I get.
• 49:55
  I'm hoping because then I
• 49:57
  got to be in the morning
• 49:58
  hours of over there.
• 50:00
  So hopefully, yeah, we'll try to.
• 50:03
  So you have.
• 50:07
  You have.
• 50:08
  And Lex is also going from
• 50:10
  California and she'll meet
• 50:12
  me there also on Wednesday.
• 50:15
  She leaves tomorrow night as
• 50:16
  well or Tuesday night.
• 50:19
  So it's been kind of put out
• 50:21
  there that you've done some
• 50:22
  testing for Rogue.
• 50:24
  Are you testing when you get there,
• 50:26
  like first thing Wednesday morning?
• 50:29
  I don't have anything planned.
• 50:31
  Like last year,
• 50:32
  I went to Texas in case they needed to.
• 50:36
  And then because of the rain,
• 50:37
  I ended up testing a few
• 50:39
  things early morning before
• 50:43
  athletes got there.
• 50:45
  who knows at this point,
• 50:46
  once the floor is laid out,
• 50:47
  they might make,
• 50:48
  make me do a round or two
• 50:49
  of something just to see timing wise,
• 50:51
  but perhaps,
• 50:52
  but I think everything's
• 50:54
  basically set in stone right now.
• 50:56
  And especially that it's indoor.
• 50:57
  I don't foresee many changes,
• 51:00
  but it might just be some
• 51:01
  transition stuff just to
• 51:02
  see how long certain things take.
• 51:04
  But yeah, I mean,
• 51:09
  Andrew Sten says I might be
• 51:10
  on your flight from London to Aberdeen.
• 51:15
  uh patrick says we are
• 51:16
  stealing your co-host for
• 51:17
  our preview show tomorrow
• 51:19
  by the way send us your
• 51:20
  pics carolyn um that's not
• 51:23
  stealing uh everybody's a
• 51:25
  free agent on this show and
• 51:28
  we're all able to go on any
• 51:29
  other show if asked uh we
• 51:33
  don't mind helping out
• 51:33
  wherever we can um so uh
• 51:44
  you don't have to confirm or deny,
• 51:45
  but you have to test the
• 51:46
  workouts in a kilt.
• 51:47
  Oh, I hope they get that.
• 51:52
  I hope they get that too.
• 51:53
  They had that one video that they, um,
• 51:57
  they, they were like sewing.
• 51:59
  So I like, I mean,
• 52:00
  I feel like it would be a
• 52:01
  miss not to give that to the athletes.
• 52:05
  Can I, can I, I'll ask you this question.
• 52:07
  You were a tester last year.
• 52:09
  Did you get a goodie bag for
• 52:10
  being the tester athlete or
• 52:12
  was it only the athletes on the floor?
• 52:15
  Only the athletes on the floor.
• 52:19
  I can kind of see that,
• 52:20
  but I think you also kind
• 52:21
  of deserve it too.
• 52:22
  I mean, they brought me there,
• 52:23
  so I think that's true.
• 52:28
  I take that as that's my goodie bag.
• 52:32
  Um, Oh yeah.
• 52:33
  They, they are doing a, uh,
• 52:34
  a kid killed in a set of
• 52:38
  rogue golf clubs.
• 52:39
  They're getting golf clubs.
• 52:41
  I don't know.
• 52:42
  Oh man.
• 52:42
  But there is like a longest drive thing.
• 52:45
  What?
• 52:46
  At the like last,
• 52:48
  like I think it was last year.
• 52:49
  They,
• 52:50
  they had like a baseball simulator
• 52:53
  thingy.
• 52:54
  Um,
• 52:55
  Jamie acts like she's a good golfer.
• 52:57
  Maybe they would get that.
• 52:58
  I'm a pretty good golfer.
• 53:01
  Says every golfer ever.
• 53:05
  Yeah, the Thursday night,
• 53:06
  there's a longest range.
• 53:08
  I got to enter that.
• 53:09
  I haven't golfed in a couple years, though,
• 53:10
  but I can swing a club.
• 53:14
  I don't know if you've seen
• 53:15
  the event schedule,
• 53:16
  but for us that are stateside,
• 53:20
  if you're on the East Coast,
• 53:21
  you'll have to get up
• 53:22
  pretty early most mornings.
• 53:24
  If you're on the West Coast,
• 53:26
  probably have to stay up
• 53:27
  late a few nights.
• 53:30
  But I know like the first
• 53:32
  Friday morning is like seven thirty a.m.
• 53:35
  Eastern time.
• 53:36
  I think Saturday morning is five a.m.
• 53:40
  Eastern time and Sunday is
• 53:43
  around that time as well.
• 53:47
  Yeah, well,
• 53:49
  so we get the workouts tomorrow, right?
• 53:50
  Monday, they release them.
• 53:52
  Patrick,
• 53:52
  I hope that there's like a woman's
• 53:54
  versus men's division.
• 53:55
  That's what I'm hoping for,
• 53:56
  for a longest reign or longest drive.
• 53:59
  I'm sure.
• 53:59
  Because I cannot compete
• 54:01
  against some of the men
• 54:02
  that will be going.
• 54:09
  The other kind of newsworthy
• 54:11
  stuff are James Sprague had pneumonia,
• 54:14
  was debating on whether he
• 54:16
  was going or not,
• 54:17
  has decided he is attending the event.
• 54:20
  So he is going now.
• 54:21
  And that this show will,
• 54:23
  Jamie and I will do some
• 54:24
  update shows over the weekend.
• 54:27
  In between,
• 54:28
  I'm sure my teams will do so
• 54:30
  good this weekend.
• 54:31
  I won't cry a bit before
• 54:33
  getting on the air.
• 54:34
  But we'll get on the air a couple times.
• 54:36
  And then hopefully we can do...
• 54:39
  like a post event show maybe
• 54:41
  early next week uh when
• 54:44
  carolyn gets back uh
• 54:46
  because I know with the
• 54:47
  travel and all that stuff
• 54:50
  trying to get coordinated
• 54:52
  with them in scotland may
• 54:53
  be tough uh but maybe we'll
• 54:56
  uh get with her when she
• 54:57
  gets back to talk about
• 54:59
  what she saw live and then
• 55:01
  she knows that anytime
• 55:02
  we're on the air she and
• 55:04
  she sees us she knows how
• 55:05
  to get in and say hi
• 55:11
  Uh, Jody, uh,
• 55:13
  you're a better woman than I. Same.
• 55:16
  I mean, I will say I'm, I'm usually up,
• 55:19
  but not up and around.
• 55:22
  Like Aaron gets up for work at five AM.
• 55:26
  So yes,
• 55:27
  I wake up and then I have to get
• 55:29
  Lucas up.
• 55:30
  He gets on the bus at like six forty.
• 55:32
  So I'm up, but man,
• 55:34
  I try to not start my day
• 55:35
  till like nine AM.
• 55:35
  Yeah.
• 55:37
  I used to be like, uh,
• 55:40
  I actually did five a.m.
• 55:43
  workouts for a while.
• 55:47
  But I was I was in bed early.
• 55:48
  Like I complain about late nights now.
• 55:51
  Like I was in bed early, early.
• 55:53
  I mean, that's like Lex.
• 55:54
  Lex is three thirty a.m.
• 55:56
  or three fifteen a.m.
• 55:58
  sometimes.
• 55:58
  And but she's in bed like that.
• 56:00
  That's just insane.
• 56:01
  That is insane.
• 56:04
  Honestly,
• 56:04
  when I'm on that schedule and I'm
• 56:05
  in California, it's really not that bad.
• 56:07
  I'm like tired literally at
• 56:09
  like six thirty seven p.m.
• 56:11
  I just get used to it.
• 56:12
  Yeah,
• 56:13
  but that's really your ten ten thirty.
• 56:16
  I know.
• 56:16
  So like I just I basically
• 56:18
  stay on the same time zone.
• 56:21
  So speaking of that,
• 56:23
  one of the last things I
• 56:24
  have in my notes for
• 56:25
  tonight is we just went
• 56:27
  through the fallback an hour.
• 56:29
  How does that affect you and
• 56:31
  your training when we have
• 56:33
  to change times either back or forward?
• 56:39
  I don't think it affects for me.
• 56:42
  I could use an extra two
• 56:43
  hours today for the work
• 56:44
  that I still have to do for
• 56:46
  school this week.
• 56:49
  I need to do for tomorrow.
• 56:50
  I feel like the back doesn't
• 56:52
  affect me so much.
• 56:53
  It's the forward.
• 56:53
  When I lose, they both affect me now.
• 56:58
  When I was younger,
• 56:59
  like they didn't really
• 56:59
  affect the forward affected me a little.
• 57:01
  The back didn't now as I'm getting older,
• 57:04
  they both affect me.
• 57:05
  And it takes me about a week
• 57:06
  just to kind of get my
• 57:08
  circadian rhythm back.
• 57:10
  Yeah.
• 57:11
  Um,
• 57:12
  I just feel like I don't sleep well for
• 57:16
  like a, like five days.
• 57:18
  I could see that.
• 57:20
  See, I'm like a night owl.
• 57:23
  And so I feel like it's
• 57:23
  better for me that it's
• 57:25
  dark at five o'clock and
• 57:27
  maybe I can wind down by nine, ten p.m.
• 57:29
  instead of winding down at one a.m.
• 57:33
  So, yeah, I don't know.
• 57:36
  But yeah,
• 57:37
  it was it was dark at like five
• 57:39
  thirty dark.
• 57:43
  Yeah, it's going to be bad.
• 57:47
  Walking the dog is going to be tough now.
• 57:56
  He likes to go out at like
• 57:57
  seven o'clock at night and
• 57:58
  now it's going to be pitch black.
• 57:59
  Yes.
• 58:04
  He always wants to go out as
• 58:04
  soon as Jeopardy comes on.
• 58:06
  There, I sound really old.
• 58:10
  He knows.
• 58:10
  He knows.
• 58:11
  Yeah.
• 58:14
  This barbell spin put out
• 58:15
  this week that no failed
• 58:17
  drug tests from the twenty
• 58:18
  twenty four CrossFit games.
• 58:21
  Do we think that testing was
• 58:23
  aggressive or do you think
• 58:25
  because of the instance, maybe we just.
• 58:31
  Check the box.
• 58:33
  I'm sure they still did the top five.
• 58:38
  They don't test that much.
• 58:40
  Everyone that competes at
• 58:41
  the games has been tested
• 58:44
  on the individual side.
• 58:47
  Every single athlete at the semis.
• 58:49
  If it was a backfill for
• 58:51
  whatever reason they didn't get,
• 58:52
  normally they get an at-home test.
• 58:54
  Some of the athletes got
• 58:55
  tested prior at home.
• 58:58
  Once they're at the games,
• 58:59
  it's not many that get tested there.
• 59:05
  Maybe the top...
• 59:07
  Ten?
• 59:07
  Not even?
• 59:08
  Maybe top five?
• 59:09
  I don't know.
• 59:10
  I can't imagine some more than top five.
• 59:11
  Let me ask you this.
• 59:12
  If we go to an online semifinal,
• 59:15
  which none of this we know,
• 59:17
  there's no place where
• 59:18
  they're all at to test them
• 59:20
  before they get to the games.
• 59:22
  Right.
• 59:22
  That's a huge issue with
• 59:24
  going online is the amount
• 59:27
  of things people can do
• 59:28
  with drugs and in terms of
• 59:31
  reps and videos and fake
• 59:33
  weights and all of that.
• 59:35
  When you start putting...
• 59:38
  I mean,
• 59:38
  we went to the games prior online
• 59:40
  and maybe it wasn't as bad then,
• 59:42
  but I just think if
• 59:43
  everything goes online,
• 59:44
  it's just going to get
• 59:45
  worse in terms of the
• 59:47
  cheating that can happen
• 59:48
  and the cycles that people
• 59:51
  will be going through.
• 59:52
  Well,
• 59:53
  look at the Masters and the fifty to
• 59:55
  fifty four year old
• 59:56
  division was completely
• 59:58
  destroyed because there was
• 1:00:00
  no testing prior to the games.
• 1:00:02
  Yep.
• 1:00:10
  I don't know if they're
• 1:00:10
  going to have to do a
• 1:00:11
  little bit more like at
• 1:00:13
  quarterfinals or semis,
• 1:00:16
  maybe send out like maybe top.
• 1:00:18
  I don't know.
• 1:00:18
  They're going to have to do
• 1:00:19
  some random top five,
• 1:00:21
  ten people send out some
• 1:00:25
  home drug tests and do that
• 1:00:27
  for quarter semis.
• 1:00:32
  So Patrick says they don't care.
• 1:00:33
  It's a cash grab now.
• 1:00:35
  That's my point.
• 1:00:36
  Because you're saying it's a cash grab now,
• 1:00:38
  you're just letting the sport die.
• 1:00:41
  Then give it up to somebody
• 1:00:42
  else because if you don't
• 1:00:44
  care and it's just a cash grab,
• 1:00:48
  let somebody else do it
• 1:00:49
  where they can make the
• 1:00:50
  improvements needed to grow the sport.
• 1:00:55
  Not let it die on the vine.
• 1:00:57
  The thing is, people are like,
• 1:01:00
  I've heard some people say,
• 1:01:02
  pay for the licensing of
• 1:01:04
  the word CrossFit, but
• 1:01:06
  and sell that off, like make CrossFit,
• 1:01:08
  keep the money from the open.
• 1:01:09
  But like, if you're another,
• 1:01:10
  if you're another league or whatever,
• 1:01:12
  you're just going to call
• 1:01:12
  it the fitness of whatever.
• 1:01:14
  Like,
• 1:01:14
  why would you let CrossFit keep all
• 1:01:16
  the money from the open and stuff?
• 1:01:17
  Like if it's your money that
• 1:01:19
  you're investing in,
• 1:01:20
  you're not going to
• 1:01:20
  generate anything from the open.
• 1:01:21
  Like,
• 1:01:22
  why would you not just call it the
• 1:01:24
  fitness games?
• 1:01:26
  Like you don't need the word CrossFit.
• 1:01:28
  I think, I mean, we know what CrossFit is,
• 1:01:29
  so it helps with the history of it, but.
• 1:01:34
  Yeah.
• 1:01:35
  If you take, if you,
• 1:01:39
  this is my true feeling here.
• 1:01:42
  If you take CrossFit off of the season,
• 1:01:44
  it doesn't mean as much.
• 1:01:47
  I agree.
• 1:01:47
  At least for the foreseeable future.
• 1:01:50
  Now maybe you can build it
• 1:01:51
  into something special,
• 1:01:53
  but right now it doesn't mean anything.
• 1:01:55
  If you take the open away
• 1:01:57
  from the sport as then you're,
• 1:02:02
  you're taking the beauty
• 1:02:03
  away from what it is.
• 1:02:05
  The open is a way for everybody,
• 1:02:07
  whether it's realistic or
• 1:02:09
  not to say I get to play.
• 1:02:14
  I did the same competition as X, Y,
• 1:02:15
  and Z who qualified for the games.
• 1:02:17
  And I got to compare myself
• 1:02:19
  to that person and this
• 1:02:20
  person in this age group.
• 1:02:21
  Yeah.
• 1:02:22
  And then that bleeds into
• 1:02:24
  people going into the
• 1:02:25
  affiliates and growing into
• 1:02:28
  crossfit as a methodology
• 1:02:30
  the concept is great the
• 1:02:31
  concept was great there was
• 1:02:33
  a few things that needed to
• 1:02:35
  change a few things to get
• 1:02:37
  better the open if you made
• 1:02:38
  the open matter like I did
• 1:02:40
  before it was like the open
• 1:02:43
  is fun and it's a great
• 1:02:44
  community event and and all that um
• 1:02:48
  I just think that there
• 1:02:49
  needs to be more than one
• 1:02:50
  path to the games.
• 1:02:51
  If there was injuries or if
• 1:02:52
  you just were sick that
• 1:02:53
  weekend or you didn't perform very well,
• 1:02:55
  like you should have more than one way,
• 1:02:58
  which is why I like the
• 1:02:59
  last chance qualifier for
• 1:03:01
  certain athletes.
• 1:03:02
  I didn't quite, you know, we were close,
• 1:03:04
  but you know,
• 1:03:05
  got to get a couple extra spots,
• 1:03:07
  but like something like, you know,
• 1:03:08
  after the semifinals,
• 1:03:09
  here are the options.
• 1:03:10
  Like there's other routes to
• 1:03:11
  also get to the games,
• 1:03:12
  which is like the sanctional season,
• 1:03:14
  but there was fricking, you know,
• 1:03:16
  You know, you didn't need that many.
• 1:03:17
  If you had, you know, no more than six,
• 1:03:20
  you can't have that many,
• 1:03:21
  but like no more than like,
• 1:03:23
  let's say six globally.
• 1:03:25
  And then those, as well as, you know,
• 1:03:30
  the original route to
• 1:03:32
  complete your roster for
• 1:03:34
  the games like that,
• 1:03:35
  that would make sense.
• 1:03:36
  And like the system is not broken.
• 1:03:39
  That was there before that
• 1:03:40
  it just needs tweaking a little bit.
• 1:03:43
  And I think if you start
• 1:03:45
  having all of these leagues
• 1:03:46
  that are way different,
• 1:03:48
  you're almost ruining what
• 1:03:49
  we have and ruining our own sport.
• 1:03:53
  There's not going to be all these leagues.
• 1:03:55
  There's not enough money in
• 1:03:57
  the ecosystem to have all these leagues.
• 1:04:00
  There may be a league that
• 1:04:03
  tries to go up against it.
• 1:04:04
  But again,
• 1:04:05
  CrossFit has history on its side.
• 1:04:08
  But let's...
• 1:04:10
  hopefully it makes them
• 1:04:12
  become more innovative to compete.
• 1:04:15
  That's my only hope.
• 1:04:18
  Well, if I'm curious, is,
• 1:04:22
  is Will's thing waiting for
• 1:04:25
  CrossFit announcement or vice versa?
• 1:04:28
  Cause I feel like whoever
• 1:04:31
  gets their information out
• 1:04:32
  first has a better shot at this.
• 1:04:37
  I don't think he necessarily
• 1:04:38
  wants to compete against CrossFit.
• 1:04:40
  If you look at his interview,
• 1:04:43
  he's still up in the air as
• 1:04:44
  to whether it was something
• 1:04:45
  that could run parallel and not compete.
• 1:04:49
  Just an alternate season of
• 1:04:51
  another way to make money
• 1:04:52
  and sustain yourself.
• 1:04:54
  How bad do you think the
• 1:04:59
  Open is going to take a hit this year?
• 1:05:05
  it's going to take a hit
• 1:05:06
  because of the association
• 1:05:10
  of a death at the CrossFit Games.
• 1:05:13
  Ten percent?
• 1:05:14
  Twenty percent?
• 1:05:15
  What's your thoughts?
• 1:05:17
  And they did say that the
• 1:05:18
  Open would stay the same price, too.
• 1:05:22
  I don't think it's going to
• 1:05:23
  be as big as you think.
• 1:05:30
  You think it's going to lose
• 1:05:31
  one hundred and fifty thousand?
• 1:05:34
  Patrick?
• 1:05:38
  I think, yeah.
• 1:05:39
  Yeah, that's a little overzealous.
• 1:05:44
  I think there are some
• 1:05:50
  people that are going to join because,
• 1:05:53
  and this sounds demented,
• 1:05:54
  but this is the way that the world works.
• 1:05:57
  There's a danger to it now.
• 1:06:00
  I think going online,
• 1:06:02
  more people think they have a shot.
• 1:06:04
  Yeah.
• 1:06:05
  Yeah,
• 1:06:06
  we don't even know what it is at this
• 1:06:07
  point.
• 1:06:07
  Well, that's the thing.
• 1:06:08
  We need some details, but yeah.
• 1:06:13
  So you're saying there's a chance.
• 1:06:17
  I think that's what happened
• 1:06:17
  this year at the Masters CrossFit Games.
• 1:06:20
  I think they thought that
• 1:06:21
  because it was split off on its own,
• 1:06:23
  there wouldn't be testing.
• 1:06:24
  So people said,
• 1:06:26
  let's juice it up and let's
• 1:06:27
  see what we can do.
• 1:06:28
  They just don't test enough there.
• 1:06:31
  Yeah, they don't test enough.
• 1:06:34
  Agreed.
• 1:06:35
  The top five is not enough,
• 1:06:36
  especially on the male side
• 1:06:39
  that traditionally take more.
• 1:06:43
  But I think the three men
• 1:06:44
  that were busted were good
• 1:06:47
  and knew with just a little
• 1:06:48
  help they could be great.
• 1:06:52
  And they went for it
• 1:06:52
  thinking they wouldn't test.
• 1:06:55
  And get their payday.
• 1:06:56
  Yep.
• 1:07:00
  Yep.
• 1:07:01
  Well,
• 1:07:02
  we're going to finish up with just
• 1:07:03
  two quick things, and that is, first,
• 1:07:05
  Hayley Adams did an
• 1:07:06
  interview with Rory McKernan.
• 1:07:08
  If you have not seen it, it's really good.
• 1:07:12
  You can tell Haley and Rory
• 1:07:13
  have been around together
• 1:07:14
  for a long time and they
• 1:07:16
  are very good friends.
• 1:07:17
  Haley opened up a lot about
• 1:07:18
  her eating disorder and
• 1:07:21
  talked about why she had to
• 1:07:22
  walk away from mayhem for a
• 1:07:23
  minute and just be a kid
• 1:07:28
  and travel and do things without guilt.
• 1:07:31
  It's an exceptional
• 1:07:33
  interview if you have not seen it.
• 1:07:37
  Is there any insight to the
• 1:07:39
  Haley Murillo and Josh Murillo?
• 1:07:42
  She doesn't say anything
• 1:07:43
  derogatory or that she just
• 1:07:47
  had to go do something different.
• 1:07:48
  And when she came back after
• 1:07:51
  taking nine months off, like it was bad.
• 1:07:55
  And that she's glad nobody
• 1:07:57
  at Mayhem saw her.
• 1:08:00
  I still think like she
• 1:08:03
  didn't address like Haley
• 1:08:05
  and Josh and everything
• 1:08:05
  that they did for her.
• 1:08:07
  like they were all in on her.
• 1:08:09
  So whether she needed her
• 1:08:11
  little break from mayhem
• 1:08:13
  and then came back, I think, and I don't,
• 1:08:16
  and I don't know what happened between,
• 1:08:19
  you know, that situation,
• 1:08:21
  but a thank you on air
• 1:08:24
  would have been nice.
• 1:08:25
  A appreciate the fact that
• 1:08:27
  these two took me in and
• 1:08:29
  had me on my lowest or one
• 1:08:31
  of my lowest parts and,
• 1:08:33
  and were there for me and
• 1:08:34
  cheered me on at semifinals
• 1:08:35
  and all these people traveled.
• 1:08:36
  Like, again,
• 1:08:37
  I don't know what happened
• 1:08:39
  from an outside.
• 1:08:40
  I was hoping to hear something for that.
• 1:08:43
  And then here, and then I wanted, you know,
• 1:08:46
  I went to Mayhem because
• 1:08:47
  this is what I knew going to the games.
• 1:08:49
  And, and I wanted, you know,
• 1:08:51
  to prepare with, you know,
• 1:08:52
  these athletes that were
• 1:08:53
  going to push me a little
• 1:08:54
  bit more in training.
• 1:08:56
  Like I would see that part,
• 1:08:58
  but I wanted to hear during
• 1:09:00
  the interview that,
• 1:09:01
  her acknowledge the help
• 1:09:04
  that she got from Haley and Josh.
• 1:09:11
  I agree.
• 1:09:12
  It just didn't come and I
• 1:09:13
  just feel like there's
• 1:09:14
  something like missing.
• 1:09:18
  And I'm not talking about
• 1:09:18
  the Hiller documentary.
• 1:09:20
  That's before everything.
• 1:09:22
  The Hiller documentary was
• 1:09:23
  when she was all in with those two.
• 1:09:26
  Right.
• 1:09:26
  Regardless of what happened,
• 1:09:28
  they were there for her
• 1:09:30
  At that point,
• 1:09:31
  and I think that I wanted to hear that.
• 1:09:35
  Yeah.
• 1:09:37
  Your sentiment, Scott,
• 1:09:39
  do you remember this,
• 1:09:40
  is exactly my sentiment
• 1:09:42
  when Haley did Hiller's
• 1:09:44
  video and I felt like she
• 1:09:45
  didn't acknowledge Tasia.
• 1:09:48
  Do you remember how I felt about that?
• 1:09:51
  So it seems to be a pattern
• 1:09:54
  that Haley... And then she
• 1:09:56
  didn't acknowledge Tasia in this video.
• 1:10:00
  Yeah,
• 1:10:01
  she did mention a little bit of Tasia.
• 1:10:03
  But yeah,
• 1:10:03
  Tasia is someone who was such a
• 1:10:05
  big role player for her
• 1:10:07
  over the years and knew a
• 1:10:09
  lot of what was happening
• 1:10:10
  with Haley and tried to mentor her.
• 1:10:12
  Yeah, it could be a pattern.
• 1:10:18
  We don't even know if Haley
• 1:10:19
  and Josh wanted to be
• 1:10:21
  full-time coaches for Haley.
• 1:10:24
  They were all in.
• 1:10:25
  They were all in.
• 1:10:27
  Like there's no way that you just,
• 1:10:30
  you move your life and you
• 1:10:32
  go towards that.
• 1:10:33
  Like, there's no way Scott, like that.
• 1:10:34
  They're like, Oh,
• 1:10:35
  you made it to the games.
• 1:10:36
  Our job is done.
• 1:10:37
  No.
• 1:10:38
  If you listen to their interview,
• 1:10:39
  like they were ready to, you know,
• 1:10:42
  do anything to support her.
• 1:10:45
  And she went right back to mayhem,
• 1:10:48
  which is fine.
• 1:10:50
  It's fine.
• 1:10:51
  Like, you know,
• 1:10:52
  she's got her training
• 1:10:53
  partner said that she loves Luke and,
• 1:10:56
  You know,
• 1:10:56
  they have a ton of people
• 1:10:57
  training for the games and
• 1:10:58
  it's what she knows.
• 1:10:59
  And it's, you know,
• 1:11:00
  she went back to what she knew.
• 1:11:03
  But there's no way that they
• 1:11:04
  wouldn't have wanted to
• 1:11:05
  continue their journey
• 1:11:07
  together to the games.
• 1:11:10
  It's definitely a
• 1:11:10
  conversation worth
• 1:11:11
  exploring if they're willing to talk.
• 1:11:16
  Yeah.
• 1:11:17
  I mean,
• 1:11:17
  I've talked to Haley and Josh a ton.
• 1:11:20
  I'm not against reaching out.
• 1:11:24
  And I'm sure,
• 1:11:25
  I'm sure there's no hard feelings,
• 1:11:26
  but I just think a thank
• 1:11:27
  you in the interview.
• 1:11:29
  Like I was just,
• 1:11:29
  I was just hoping for
• 1:11:30
  something like that.
• 1:11:30
  I agree.
• 1:11:31
  Just like, like Ken said,
• 1:11:33
  just a shout out would have
• 1:11:34
  been great just to talk
• 1:11:36
  about that part and what
• 1:11:38
  they meant to her and her training.
• 1:11:40
  But maybe, maybe, um,
• 1:11:44
  road didn't want to go that direction.
• 1:11:50
  And maybe they talked prior
• 1:11:51
  about not talking about that part.
• 1:11:52
  I don't know.
• 1:11:54
  But just a shout out would have been nice.
• 1:11:58
  Yeah.
• 1:11:58
  A little flashback to the open talk.
• 1:12:00
  Mike Halpin brings up a good point.
• 1:12:02
  Twenty twenty five is also
• 1:12:03
  the first year affiliates
• 1:12:04
  are paying forty five hundred dollars.
• 1:12:06
  I'd be curious if more
• 1:12:07
  affiliates take the open
• 1:12:09
  in-house and the twenty
• 1:12:10
  dollars goes to them versus HQ.
• 1:12:14
  I know my former affiliate
• 1:12:17
  was doing this five or six years ago.
• 1:12:20
  They gave you two options.
• 1:12:22
  You could pay twenty dollars to them.
• 1:12:25
  Everybody who did it
• 1:12:25
  in-house had to pay twenty
• 1:12:26
  dollars to them.
• 1:12:27
  You got a shirt and you got
• 1:12:28
  assigned a team.
• 1:12:29
  Yeah.
• 1:12:30
  Then you could pay another
• 1:12:31
  twenty dollars to do the HQ version.
• 1:12:34
  And I would bet three
• 1:12:36
  quarters of the members did
• 1:12:37
  not do the HQ.
• 1:12:40
  Piece of it.
• 1:12:44
  I still think that there's
• 1:12:45
  something about going on a
• 1:12:46
  leaderboard and then seeing
• 1:12:47
  your name year after year
• 1:12:49
  versus your in-house, but it's like.
• 1:12:53
  But I understand the people
• 1:12:54
  that do it and want to
• 1:12:55
  support the gym and all that.
• 1:12:56
  People like us would do the
• 1:12:57
  HQ version because we want
• 1:12:59
  to see if we improve year over year.
• 1:13:01
  Yeah.
• 1:13:01
  There were people in this
• 1:13:02
  affiliate that didn't even
• 1:13:04
  know there was a sport, right?
• 1:13:06
  Yeah,
• 1:13:06
  like the people that you're trying to
• 1:13:08
  get to do the open and they're like,
• 1:13:10
  what's the open?
• 1:13:10
  You're like, we're signing you up.
• 1:13:12
  They don't care.
• 1:13:13
  They'll give the twenty bucks to anyone.
• 1:13:15
  But for the people that
• 1:13:16
  actually know what the open
• 1:13:18
  is and to test your fitness
• 1:13:19
  and to see your
• 1:13:19
  improvements year after year,
• 1:13:21
  you can compare a bunch of things.
• 1:13:24
  The leaderboard is nice to
• 1:13:25
  see that progression or
• 1:13:26
  that regression year to year.
• 1:13:31
  My former affiliate was,
• 1:13:34
  which I still have a good
• 1:13:34
  relationship with, they are very diverse.
• 1:13:38
  There's people from every
• 1:13:39
  walk of life around the world.
• 1:13:41
  And there are people that
• 1:13:43
  don't even know anything
• 1:13:45
  about CrossFit HQ.
• 1:13:47
  They don't even know there
• 1:13:47
  is a website that you can go fill out.
• 1:13:50
  Like, they didn't care.
• 1:13:50
  They just wanted to have fun
• 1:13:51
  with their friends and be
• 1:13:53
  on the green team and see
• 1:13:55
  who did best in these three weeks.
• 1:14:01
  Yep.
• 1:14:02
  Yeah, I mean,
• 1:14:02
  the community part of the
• 1:14:03
  Open has always been amazing and fun,
• 1:14:07
  depending if you have that at your gym.
• 1:14:09
  But, yeah, it's fun.
• 1:14:11
  That's how eighty,
• 1:14:13
  ninety percent of my gym is.
• 1:14:14
  They don't comprehend it
• 1:14:17
  other than the fact that
• 1:14:18
  Jim and I have both been there now.
• 1:14:22
  So they realize that there's
• 1:14:23
  something that one or two
• 1:14:26
  of us are competing for,
• 1:14:27
  but that like beyond that,
• 1:14:29
  they don't understand the season at all.
• 1:14:34
  And then the last piece of
• 1:14:35
  news is an organization we
• 1:14:38
  support wholeheartedly on
• 1:14:40
  this channel is Uplift.
• 1:14:43
  Mark Moss is an amazing dude.
• 1:14:45
  We love that guy.
• 1:14:47
  They have a November challenge,
• 1:14:49
  which is due... When is that, Jamie?
• 1:14:52
  The second.
• 1:14:56
  Can you say that again?
• 1:14:56
  You cut out for me.
• 1:14:58
  The twenty-second.
• 1:14:59
  Okay.
• 1:15:01
  The November challenge...
• 1:15:03
  is double grace right double
• 1:15:07
  grace it's like an interval
• 1:15:11
  style you have to get to
• 1:15:12
  the sixty reps um so yeah
• 1:15:17
  not really send them the
• 1:15:18
  video work one minute rest
• 1:15:20
  one minute yep man I've
• 1:15:22
  never done it that way I
• 1:15:24
  know interesting right
• 1:15:27
  um yeah who programs these
• 1:15:30
  oh it's always someone
• 1:15:31
  different I think it's um
• 1:15:32
  sentinel I think taylor was
• 1:15:34
  uh partnered with this one
• 1:15:35
  um but they get someone
• 1:15:36
  every month yeah it's a
• 1:15:38
  different different group
• 1:15:39
  every month I think is that
• 1:15:41
  the same weekend as reps
• 1:15:42
  ahead yeah but you have all
• 1:15:45
  months to do it oh you have
• 1:15:46
  all month to do it right
• 1:15:48
  you just have to turn it in
• 1:15:49
  on the twenty sec by the
• 1:15:51
  twenty second got it yep
• 1:15:55
  have you ever done double grace
• 1:15:58
  No.
• 1:16:01
  I did it with my nephew.
• 1:16:04
  And somehow he fooled me
• 1:16:07
  into thinking we were just doing Grace.
• 1:16:09
  So I went like all out sprint.
• 1:16:10
  Oh, no.
• 1:16:11
  And then he goes, no, we're doing double.
• 1:16:13
  Kind of like the ranch run.
• 1:16:15
  Yeah.
• 1:16:15
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:16:17
  Right.
• 1:16:17
  It turned around.
• 1:16:18
  You got to do it again.
• 1:16:20
  And I was just hanging on for dear life.
• 1:16:22
  And I think I was right at
• 1:16:24
  like eight minutes because the second,
• 1:16:27
  the second thirty were just brutal.
• 1:16:30
  Yeah.
• 1:16:31
  I don't think I've done double grace.
• 1:16:33
  I've done heavy grace.
• 1:16:34
  I've done double DT because
• 1:16:36
  that was program at the games in,
• 1:16:38
  I don't know, twenty fifteen,
• 1:16:39
  twenty sixteen, somewhere about there.
• 1:16:41
  So I did that,
• 1:16:43
  but I don't think I've ever
• 1:16:44
  done double grace.
• 1:16:45
  I've done double grace,
• 1:16:46
  like with Lex going like
• 1:16:48
  maybe back and forth or we
• 1:16:49
  just had like sixty,
• 1:16:51
  but not not on the spot.
• 1:16:53
  Yeah,
• 1:16:53
  my friend and I did that where we
• 1:16:54
  just singled it back and forth.
• 1:16:57
  Yeah.
• 1:16:59
  And you can,
• 1:16:59
  you can fly pretty fast
• 1:17:00
  through double grace then.
• 1:17:02
  Um,
• 1:17:03
  it's almost like an average single
• 1:17:07
  grace time, but that,
• 1:17:13
  but that's pretty fun.
• 1:17:14
  I like doing that double
• 1:17:15
  grace as a partner.
• 1:17:21
  But if you want to do that,
• 1:17:22
  it's a fun one for this month.
• 1:17:25
  All barbell.
• 1:17:26
  Usually it's a lot of burpees.
• 1:17:27
  I know.
• 1:17:28
  I usually like them.
• 1:17:30
  I know.
• 1:17:30
  I'm not digging this one as much,
• 1:17:32
  but all right.
• 1:17:34
  I like to do them,
• 1:17:35
  so I'll try to get it done.
• 1:17:37
  And then one call out before
• 1:17:39
  we leave tonight.
• 1:17:40
  Carolyn still hasn't done
• 1:17:41
  her death by burpees.
• 1:17:44
  No,
• 1:17:44
  I did my rogue burpee challenge last
• 1:17:46
  weekend.
• 1:17:47
  And then...
• 1:17:48
  Wisconsin Badgers let her
• 1:17:50
  down two weeks ago.
• 1:17:51
  The only win any of my teams
• 1:17:52
  have had in two weeks.
• 1:17:55
  Yeah, mine has been sucking.
• 1:17:59
  This guy hasn't done well
• 1:17:59
  the last two weeks.
• 1:18:03
  I will get to it eventually.
• 1:18:05
  I know Carolyn's got to
• 1:18:06
  grade some papers and
• 1:18:07
  create a test before tomorrow.
• 1:18:09
  I've done grading my papers.
• 1:18:10
  I've got to
• 1:18:12
  create a math test right now
• 1:18:14
  for tomorrow morning.
• 1:18:14
  And it's, you know,
• 1:18:18
  it's nine thirty at night on a Sunday.
• 1:18:22
  I told her this is like what
• 1:18:23
  the high school student I
• 1:18:24
  was nine thirty at night on
• 1:18:25
  a Sunday doing my homework.
• 1:18:28
  I got a fifteen page paper.
• 1:18:31
  I was so like I was
• 1:18:33
  preparing like doing laundry,
• 1:18:35
  making sure everything was
• 1:18:36
  ready for like Scotland.
• 1:18:37
  I don't even have anything
• 1:18:38
  packed for that.
• 1:18:39
  So I don't even know why I'm
• 1:18:39
  saying everything was ready.
• 1:18:41
  But finishing my laundry,
• 1:18:43
  like organizing what I'm
• 1:18:44
  leaving for my math classes
• 1:18:46
  and stuff when I'm gone and
• 1:18:48
  it's just it took almost
• 1:18:49
  the whole day and even
• 1:18:51
  yesterday as well I was
• 1:18:52
  writing report card
• 1:18:53
  comments all yesterday and
• 1:18:55
  then all of a sudden I was
• 1:18:56
  like oh my gosh it's seven
• 1:18:57
  fifty five I gotta start I
• 1:18:59
  gotta get on the air here
• 1:19:01
  and then I realized I had a
• 1:19:02
  math test to do so with
• 1:19:06
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• 1:19:11
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• 1:19:13
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• 1:19:15
  Games tomorrow at twelve thirty p.m.
• 1:19:16
  Eastern Time.
• 1:19:19
  And those are been a blast.
• 1:19:21
  But I'm really glad I've
• 1:19:22
  only got two more weeks of
• 1:19:23
  editing to do to finish this up.
• 1:19:27
  And then more of the full
• 1:19:28
  eleven episode feature out there.
• 1:19:36
  I have no idea what that says.
• 1:19:38
  He said I gotta read Bullying Haley.
• 1:19:41
  Oh.
• 1:19:42
  Not bullying anybody.
• 1:19:44
  No, it was a great interview.
• 1:19:46
  I was just saying I wanted
• 1:19:47
  her to shout out my friends.
• 1:19:51
  And I don't even know what happened.
• 1:19:52
  I'm just saying.
• 1:19:53
  That's all I wanted.
• 1:19:54
  It's a good interview.
• 1:19:58
  I like him.
• 1:19:59
  Yeah, it was a great interview.
• 1:20:01
  Rory did a great job,
• 1:20:03
  and he said he teased it with, hey,
• 1:20:04
  we're just touching the surface,
• 1:20:06
  so make sure you come back
• 1:20:07
  and see the next one,
• 1:20:09
  which is great for a content creator.
• 1:20:11
  Well, we got Rogue in a couple days.
• 1:20:13
  Carolyn will be there in three.
• 1:20:17
  And then fun weekend of
• 1:20:19
  watching some CrossFit and
• 1:20:21
  strong man stuff and strong woman stuff.
• 1:20:25
  So we will do that this
• 1:20:26
  weekend and we'll do some
• 1:20:27
  shows to kind of update
• 1:20:29
  everything with that.
• 1:20:31
  Thank you everybody for
• 1:20:33
  being with us tonight on
• 1:20:34
  the original Sunday, Sunday,
• 1:20:37
  Sunday night CrossFit talk.
• 1:20:41
  Bye guys.
• 1:20:42
  Bye.
• 1:20:45
  Oh,