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Connor Burns · Not Another Football Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Another episode of Not Another Football Podcast with myself Simon
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  Speaker 1: Donley and and we're delighted we are delving into the
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  Speaker 1: field of comedy today and we have got a great
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  Speaker 1: guest in corner Bums. Thank you very much, I thanks
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  Speaker 1: forever Man House things, good eye, just the busy I.
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  Speaker 2: Can before the storm the now.
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  Speaker 3: So I'll literally I've just come for the sound check
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  Speaker 3: for the Fringe. So that starts the morning tomorrow right through.
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  Speaker 4: At the end of the month, every night, every night,
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  Speaker 4: some nights, so I'm at my venue is called just
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  Speaker 4: the Tonic at the Pleasance, which is like an old
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  Speaker 4: converted church.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm doing that every night of the Fringe.
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  Speaker 3: But then the third weekend we're there in the Edinburgh Playhouse.
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  Speaker 3: Three shows, so buzzing, so get the show, get ready
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  Speaker 3: in the smaller venue and then we'll take it to
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  Speaker 3: get big licks.
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  Speaker 2: How do you prepare for that?
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  Speaker 5: Then just night after night.
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  Speaker 3: So the show's the show's been I've been working on
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  Speaker 3: it for about the last three or four months and
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  Speaker 3: no Gallas is my last one. So that's that's where
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  Speaker 3: this one's called flow. People always asked, well why is
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  Speaker 3: it called that? And the truth is usually and I've
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  Speaker 3: named the show before I've started writing it, so I
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  Speaker 3: just picked something that I can like I.
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  Speaker 2: Can shoehorn in a meaning to that later, so it's
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  Speaker 2: called Flow Gallas.
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  Speaker 3: We finished the tour, the UK tour in March at
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  Speaker 3: the Glasgow Comedy Festival and recorded the show at the
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  Speaker 3: King's Right, so that comes out at the end of
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  Speaker 3: this month as well. By this a new show and
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  Speaker 3: just for the last few months just kind of quietly
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  Speaker 3: under the radar, I've been then we previews and can
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  Speaker 3: go up with a notepad and just working on it.
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  Speaker 3: So it's ready now, so I'll do the whole month
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  Speaker 3: here and then away on tour again with the new shows.
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  Speaker 1: I regarding the fringe, obviously it's up there with the
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  Speaker 1: comedy side.
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  Speaker 5: It is that one of your favorites to play.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably my favorite month of the year, especially because
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  Speaker 3: I live in Edinburgh, so it's about the only month
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  Speaker 3: I didn't have to put a suitcase and stay at
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  Speaker 3: a travel orge or something, so out of it. And
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  Speaker 3: it's also when else do you get to do that, like,
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  Speaker 3: because you're always kicking yourself on tour a wee bit
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  Speaker 3: I am anyway, because the show's always evolving, and one
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  Speaker 3: night if you have a if you just have a
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  Speaker 3: bit of an off night, one night, you might have
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  Speaker 3: a week until your next tour show and then you're
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  Speaker 3: driving yourself mental, whereas this is like the best blank
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  Speaker 3: If one night you go just something that really work
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  Speaker 3: last night, we go again twenty four hours and you're
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  Speaker 3: back again to fix it.
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  Speaker 6: So more pressure being in Edinburgh or.
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  Speaker 3: A wee better because there's definitely that thing of like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm very tentative they in the crowd work at the
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  Speaker 3: start of the show, because it was like, there's every
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  Speaker 3: chance I might pick up knows a few things about
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  Speaker 3: me as well. There's definitely that thing of like I'm
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  Speaker 3: probably going to see like some folks for school, a
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  Speaker 3: teacher or somebody used to work away. But it's the
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  Speaker 3: fact that, you know what I mean, when your city
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  Speaker 3: gets behind you, it's the best feeling in the world.
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  Speaker 3: And always felt like that was kind of mary a
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  Speaker 3: Glasgow thing growing up. All the big comedians came to
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  Speaker 3: Glasgow connolly Bridges and like Goswegians loved them and I
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  Speaker 3: always felt a wee bit like I wish we had
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  Speaker 3: a bit made of that. So now like to have
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  Speaker 3: Edinburgh kind of be the biggest. The tours is great.
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  Speaker 6: Do you get like nervous, really nervous.
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  Speaker 3: Before it, or really like that prepare that's kind of
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  Speaker 3: gone now because I guess it's like a wee bit
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  Speaker 3: like football. You're always going to have a wee bit
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  Speaker 3: of tingle and standing in the tunnel ready to go out.
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  Speaker 3: But the second that whistle goes, you know what you know,
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  Speaker 3: You know that it's every bit of training you've ever had,
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  Speaker 3: all the work, and you just hope that you.
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  Speaker 2: Know it works.
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  Speaker 6: Imagine be like a lonely place as well.
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  Speaker 3: Right after its right like the kind of hour after
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  Speaker 3: a show. You've got to learn how to manag that.
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  Speaker 3: I think, especially like something massive like the Kings or
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  Speaker 3: the Playhouse, because you've got the biggest adrenaline dumb piver
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  Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, it all kind of
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  Speaker 3: just goes. And I think that's why so many people
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  Speaker 3: are in the industry. Hit the Bevy or whatever else
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  Speaker 3: so hard. So you've got to learn take a witch
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  Speaker 3: off ay. And I'm very lucky in that, Like I
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  Speaker 3: grew up in Gilmourt and my family mega working class,
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  Speaker 3: So naybody's going to be I mean they're always going
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  Speaker 3: to be like still got the dishes today when you
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  Speaker 3: get heim and one hundred percent in that, because I
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  Speaker 3: think if you only surrounded yourself with people who just
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  Speaker 3: after a big show, we're like, you're brilliant, you're a
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  Speaker 3: media the bit, you'd start believing it is.
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  Speaker 6: That what you've always as a kid, always wanted to
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  Speaker 6: get into the comedy. Always.
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  Speaker 3: I was in bands first, Like I was always a
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  Speaker 3: big music kid at school.
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  Speaker 2: I played guitar in that, and I knew.
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  Speaker 3: Like I was like, I just I want to be
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  Speaker 3: on stage because I think I'm the youngest day four
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  Speaker 3: in my family and it's a big gap my need
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  Speaker 3: a sister's ten years older.
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  Speaker 2: So and then I think think I was a surprise.
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  Speaker 2: I think I was playing.
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  Speaker 3: But because of that, I was always just like I
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  Speaker 3: grew up in this loud, busy house and my brother
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  Speaker 3: and my two sisters are so much older than me.
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  Speaker 3: So I never felt like we get hungry. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: you really feel like you can join in conversation, Like
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  Speaker 3: there's a huge difference between.
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  Speaker 2: Eight and eighteen definitely, so you kind of really join
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  Speaker 2: in with what's going on with their in their lives.
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  Speaker 3: So I think I was up the way I got
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  Speaker 3: around that as I was like, I'll get somebody's attention.
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  Speaker 3: I'll pick up a guitar there that way did kind
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  Speaker 3: of we indie bands in that fu school. And then
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  Speaker 3: I figured out, like I hate having four other egos
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  Speaker 3: or whatever in the band.
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  Speaker 2: That was apped all the funny yet.
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  Speaker 3: And then I was like, there's going to be a
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  Speaker 3: way I could do this myself, canny singer or not,
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  Speaker 3: so I thought, And then I always wanted to try comedy.
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  Speaker 2: And then I was like, I'm going to.
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  Speaker 5: Try that, but where was your thrust the toe?
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  Speaker 2: I did my first ever gig.
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  Speaker 3: I was twenty three, so it's been nine years now,
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  Speaker 3: so I added it this will date it. I did
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  Speaker 3: it in a place called Yes Bar in Glasgow, which
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  Speaker 3: was a Scottish.
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  Speaker 2: Independence them the Bar because I think I.
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  Speaker 3: Had been called the Vesper, and then they took it
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  Speaker 3: over and got it the Yes Bar, and I was
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  Speaker 3: a wee basement underneath the actual pub, maybe about fifty seater.
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  Speaker 3: I think there was sixteen people at my first gig.
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  Speaker 3: It was a Thursday night, like new That night I
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  Speaker 3: went along with maybe five minutes and I hope I
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  Speaker 3: had absolutely shite myself and.
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  Speaker 2: It went well enough.
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  Speaker 3: I always to go back to that first gig because
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  Speaker 3: I think if that, if I'd totally died on my ash,
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  Speaker 3: I might have never done it again. But I went
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  Speaker 3: well enough that I thought I'm going to keep doing this.
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  Speaker 3: And I think my second gig I absolutely died on
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  Speaker 3: my whole in this pub in Glasgow folk right, just
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  Speaker 3: watching the football over my shoulder while I'm on stage
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  Speaker 3: and that. But I think if that had happened the
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  Speaker 3: first gig, I maybe would have never done it again.
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  Speaker 2: So I yes, bar was my first get around that.
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  Speaker 2: Then mentally, just I think there's a wee bit you've got.
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  Speaker 3: It's a wee bit of ego because even if a
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  Speaker 3: gig's not going well, you've got to still go, can
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  Speaker 3: you say, I think.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's.
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  Speaker 3: I've had some belters, especially because Glasgow's just got more
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  Speaker 3: we pub gigs in that than Edinburgh. It's getting a
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  Speaker 3: bit more even now. But so when you start to
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  Speaker 3: end up doing the majority.
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  Speaker 6: Of gigs through the West, and obviously I lived in Edinburgh,
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  Speaker 6: I used to go to a lot of the gigs,
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  Speaker 6: but I used to go in the bars and I've
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  Speaker 6: found him the best o, the great the bits there
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  Speaker 6: with its interaction with the comedian, and they're heckling them totally.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, do you like that?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I love a crowd that's about lively, Like my
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  Speaker 3: crowd are always I'll put you off your because you
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  Speaker 3: just learn how to deal with it. Like if it's
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  Speaker 3: happening all the way through the show and it's not,
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  Speaker 3: and obviously you've got to do it. But if some
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  Speaker 3: day's got if somebody shout something out and it's funny,
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  Speaker 3: it can take you on the best tangent of the show.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's just that there's a lot of people out
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  Speaker 3: there that think they're really funny that Arnie and either
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  Speaker 3: shout stuff out and then it's like, oh, are very good,
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  Speaker 3: and then it keeps happening. That's when it's annoying because
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  Speaker 3: you can feel the crowd starting to turn on them
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  Speaker 3: as well. But honestly, I think people think that happens
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  Speaker 3: all the time, Like I get that question all the time.
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  Speaker 3: You know, our heckles, know, like really scary and it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't happen as much as you'd think. But when you're new,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, I can be quite not because you're
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  Speaker 3: just you're walking into like a proper like working man's.
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  Speaker 2: Pub and see.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes like some I've done gigs to the back you
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  Speaker 3: guys heads because when they turn in for the bar,
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  Speaker 3: when they like even acknowledge that the show is happening.
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  Speaker 2: But the great thing about.
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  Speaker 3: Comedy and it's the same as like everything football and everything,
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  Speaker 3: you probably play your scariest games earliest in your career.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like obviously if you get to.
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  Speaker 3: Like massive finals and stuff like that, that that comes
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  Speaker 3: with it, saying thing, But if you can, if you
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  Speaker 3: can focus and get the job done, when there's twenty
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  Speaker 3: people in the room, you can see the white.
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  Speaker 2: Every one of their eyes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, playing to like a crowd that two thousand people
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  Speaker 3: where you can make it a face.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a big blob of people. It's easiest thing ever.
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  Speaker 2: It makes you.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny you say that, and I'm not comparing myself
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  Speaker 1: to you, but five fault. We get into a show
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  Speaker 1: myself and my mate Charlie Millard a couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 1: and we played the Pavilion here but we were in
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  Speaker 1: the box and as you say, can you see anything?
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  Speaker 5: But we did five days at the Fringe and it
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  Speaker 5: was from here to you.
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  Speaker 2: It's way scary.
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  Speaker 3: It's basically because you even if I'm having a belt,
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  Speaker 3: it still happens. Now if I'm having a belty, I
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  Speaker 3: get like, if I go on, I've really got down here.
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  Speaker 3: I'll walk off and I'll remember the guy in the
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  Speaker 3: Third Road and never mind all the other people that
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  Speaker 3: loved that.
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  Speaker 5: It's just that one.
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  Speaker 2: But I'd rather be like that.
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  Speaker 3: Than come off and be like, oh, how good are
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  Speaker 3: I because you need that wee thing to go. Next
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  Speaker 3: one's going to be even better buy. But then when
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  Speaker 3: you get to theaters, it's just total it's darkness. I
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  Speaker 3: can see maybe the first two or three rows, so
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  Speaker 3: I can chat to a few people, and after that
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  Speaker 3: and that's when the show's best because you so you're
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  Speaker 3: just you know, then it into your bedroom burr or something.
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  Speaker 5: See when you're saying a bit like the Fringe.
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  Speaker 1: If you feel we haven't performed as well as you
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  Speaker 1: can one night, you obviously don't tweet your material the
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  Speaker 1: next night.
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  Speaker 2: I change it all the time, like I'm constantly.
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  Speaker 3: I usually record it, whether it's just the audio on
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  Speaker 3: my phone or I'll have a week camerap at the
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  Speaker 3: back of the room.
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  Speaker 2: I try and watch it.
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  Speaker 3: Back and go, because sometimes you'll just get a weird
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  Speaker 3: thing where you go, that joke that's worked twenty nights
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  Speaker 3: in a row, why did it no get the reaction
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  Speaker 3: it usually gets last night? And then you watch it
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  Speaker 3: back or listen to it back, and you go, us,
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  Speaker 3: I said it, I went into it completely differently, And
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  Speaker 3: it's just those wee things that make you go, and it's.
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  Speaker 2: Just sometimes it's lily a word, you changed a word and.
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  Speaker 3: How you set it up, and you go back and go,
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  Speaker 3: that's just no, it's funny that I don't think they
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  Speaker 3: caught and onto what I was meaning there. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: every day I'll try to listen back to it and go,
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  Speaker 3: and then the opposite happens. Sometimes a bit like a
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  Speaker 3: joke that's maybe being a solid seven out of ten
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  Speaker 3: the whole run one night takes the roof off, and
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  Speaker 3: then you can't really you know, in a position to
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  Speaker 3: really take.
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  Speaker 2: A mental note and at the moment like, what did
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  Speaker 2: I do differently there?
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  Speaker 3: So then you go back, listen back and go, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I got I went into it like that.
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  Speaker 2: That's way funnier than the way I've been.
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  Speaker 6: You're delaying your next bit as we all go still
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  Speaker 6: laughing over.
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  Speaker 3: Your Sometimes you'll see, like, because I watch so much comedy,
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  Speaker 3: I can see when it happens to like one of
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  Speaker 3: my pals. Sometimes I go, oh, that joke's never done
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  Speaker 3: as well as that he's surprised.
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  Speaker 2: I can tell by the work in his.
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  Speaker 3: Face, and it's just But then by the time you've
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  Speaker 3: done that whole month, twenty seven shows or something, the
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  Speaker 3: show at the end is bulletproof.
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  Speaker 6: Would you say, like somebody's been your biggest influence and
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  Speaker 6: or has been your favorite?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously it's like a total cliche, but Connolly,
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  Speaker 3: if you're Scottish, you just can't.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously Bridges was.
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  Speaker 3: Massive for me because it was he was talking about
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  Speaker 3: all the stuff that was happening when I was at
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  Speaker 3: school and all that, But it was Billy Connolly was
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  Speaker 3: the one because because Mum and Dad they're older, they're
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  Speaker 3: in their seventies.
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  Speaker 2: That was the one. We all watched them.
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  Speaker 3: So my dad was like, sit down one night, he goes,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to put an audience with Billy Connolly on
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  Speaker 3: Disney Age.
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  Speaker 2: It's as funny now as it's ever been. And also
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  Speaker 2: he kind of thin we forget people my age.
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  Speaker 3: Forget that Billy Connolly when he started, comedians were like
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  Speaker 3: tuxedos and it was set up punchline, Can had the
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  Speaker 3: mother in law around blah blah blah and then punchline.
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  Speaker 3: And it was so weird for a guy that looked
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  Speaker 3: like him to come out and just tell stories like
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  Speaker 3: he was sitting next to you in the pub.
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  Speaker 2: Can he complete?
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  Speaker 3: And now everybody tells stories on stage and I don't
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  Speaker 3: think that many comedians realize like he literally he was
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  Speaker 3: the guy. He was the guy that went, why does
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: it have to be like a performance? Well, I can
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  Speaker 3: it know, just sound like I'm chatting to you. And
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  Speaker 3: now everybody sounds like that. So he's someone to yourself.
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  Speaker 3: You started in music as well, and that's why that's
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  Speaker 3: why I always looked up to him, because it's so
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: many things as well.
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  Speaker 2: Like he he used to it's always say an interviews and.
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  Speaker 3: That he had this idea about like I'll be like
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  Speaker 3: this guy with my guitar case on my.
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  Speaker 2: Back and sticking my thumbut on.
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  Speaker 3: The side of the road and I'll be mysterious. And
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  Speaker 3: I remember I was like, that's what I want to be.
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  Speaker 3: I want to just be on the road and.
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  Speaker 2: That because I love my upbringing. It was great.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, a place like that feels tiny when
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  Speaker 3: you want it and you see like people who born
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  Speaker 3: in Gilmour and grew up in Gilmot and lived there
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  Speaker 3: other family, they are danger and you just go.
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  Speaker 6: You're when you're off at the stage and you're just
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  Speaker 6: kind of a bit normal. Do you feel pressure or
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  Speaker 6: when you're in company to make people laugh?
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  Speaker 3: I think I used to, but now I get round
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  Speaker 3: that is id any I've got any social life to her,
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  Speaker 3: But I used to, but now I'm like, if I'm on,
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  Speaker 3: I'm on and I'm having a good day, I'm funny,
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  Speaker 3: but I know I'm quite quiet. Yeah, like it's socially,
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  Speaker 3: but I always was at school in that as well.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they could ever really believe that I go into this, but.
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  Speaker 1: I know you have a picture of the comedians been
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  Speaker 1: funny all the time, your school back coming.
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  Speaker 3: Through as the laugh of you're seeing you great, Because
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  Speaker 3: I think most is when I did adding like maybe
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  Speaker 3: my seventh or eighth ever gig at this club in
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  Speaker 3: Glasgow called the Glee Club, and it was my ten
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  Speaker 3: minute trials. Everyone else on the lineup was a proper
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: paid to like a proper a professional comedian. And I
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: had maybe ten minute trial spot and I was like shaking.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember the guy who was the headliner. I
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  Speaker 3: was a Canadian guy, brilliant called Mike Wilmot. And he
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: was like maybe and he's maybe late fifties, early sixties.
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  Speaker 3: He's been doing this for thirty odd years, head lines
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  Speaker 3: clubs Canada, America, over here and all that.
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  Speaker 2: And he saw I was shying myself and he went,
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  Speaker 2: are you quite new?
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  Speaker 3: And I asked my tenth ever gig, and I'm dreading
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  Speaker 3: it and he went, do you know how funny thing
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  Speaker 3: is going to happen?
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: If you keep doing this for long enough? He went,
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: You'll no believe me.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: Now he went, but there will come a time in
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: your life with the only place you're actually comfortable is
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: up there. And now I completely get is that that's
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: the moving bit where I go, I just be as
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: much as fanny as I want, and there's I'm not
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: worrying about paying my taxis, I'm not worrying about getting
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: the car, So they're not worried about any of that.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: You just switch off. Everybody's there to see me. It's
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: like the biggest ego trip ever and then the second
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: it's over, that's when you're like.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Back to reality. And so I have up there. I
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: definitely I look louder.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: And more brash than I am, but again I think
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: that comes for being for a big family as well. Yeah,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: I was learning how to shut up up.
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: It's interesting you were saying there.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Obviously he started it and a couple of bands with
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: other folk, and you were saying about the four egos.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking about that because you've been away far and
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: wide in your tours, so just on your lonesome then,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: because I've got this great idea picture in my head
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: about bands going to wear and a band.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: Of brother is going to be. Yeah, you're doing it
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: on your own.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: For the most I bring now like that the tours
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: are big enough, I'm able to bring an opening act
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: with me, and I used pretty much the same guy
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: for most of the guy called Daniel Pechrey, and he's
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: just a good mate.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: He's a funny comedian.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: But more importantly to me, it's like with any mind
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: being in each other's company.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: But that's new.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Comedians come up to me all the time and like
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: ask advice, and I go like I can't tell you
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: how to do comedy.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: You've got to figure that out yourself.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: But if you're going to do this for a living,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: and learn how to be all right in your own company,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: like learn how to be in a hotel room with gone,
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go and get passed of something because
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: that's how you got off the rails quickly. But my
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: missus comes along whenever she can, like she'll come out
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: to Australia for a few weeks when I'm touring over there.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: But and you you've got a networking pals, you know,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: we're all all my mates are also like my mates
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: are also touring comedians. So you've got your wee stable
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: with piles. So you have a four hour drive downto
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Manchester for my gig tonight. I'll be so and so Phone.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I know he'll be on the road gone somewhere as well.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: So he's all just kind of checking on each other,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: which is why the fringe is great, because it's like
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: the big staff do. Everyone's in one city for a
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: month and he's all get your catching up done. But
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: it's definitely there's times when you're like this is pretty
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: grim checking into your wee roadside hotel McDonald's, but it's
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: I've done a million normal jobs for comedy.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I would rather be in a hotel room after a gig.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: Than going back to doing that with the fringe. Whereas
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: your favorite place.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: As you played then, I've done the Sydney Opera House
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: like four times now, which is mad. That's one of
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: those like again, because I watched the Billy Connolly thing
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: where he did the tour around Australia, and I remember,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not my missus always having to go because I
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: never cry at any and she'll greet it any film,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm just quite I'm.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Quite low key.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I remember I got off the train and you see
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: the Sydney and I was playing it that night, and
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I sat on this bench and I just started bubbling
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, there came ups wrong with
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I phoned my mom and dad. I was like, I
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: can't stop creating them in Sydney, and I think it was.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Just me going like holy shit, like this is actually
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: working it. Yeah.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I think that was the first moment I kind of
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: stopped him went I think I'm actually starting to live
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: the dream, believe it, like this has gone to plan
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: and the gig.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: The gigs there are unbelievable. Any in Glasgow as well.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Glasgow is always like you need to be really oh
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: for your game to have a bad gig in Glasgow
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: on a Friday night or Saturday night.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: But they saw it the week for the chaff. And
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: that's why I like Glasgow.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: If you're great, you'll get carried out of there on
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: people's shoulders.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: If you're bad, you.
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: Know, pretty football.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: I'd much rather have a crowd that did they like
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: me and let me know about it than indifferent.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: I've had a few gigs where like especially early on,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: just staring at you like you're in a zoo, and.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Those gigs are worse. I'd rather just went you're shite
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: and I couldn't.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: Leave playing expression just still there.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I have a few gigs in like Mainland Europe, even Scandinavia.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Scandinavia is tough.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Wait, the nicest people in the world, but comedies just
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: know really like part of their culture. Ye mad a
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: gig in Norway and then for a comedians like five
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: hundred people there silence, I'm sweating, but it's twenty minutes
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: like dying on my.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Whole tub and I was like, this is the worst
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: gig I've ever in my life.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: And then after they were all come up to me
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: going that was one of the greatest nights. Can make
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: some noise they used to theater. So the promoters tell
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: me is that they didn't really laugh. It's like they
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: like a joke though. Yeah, it's used to feel weird that.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I think it was just telling me that to make
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: me feel better. Give me the left was getting laughs.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: But you just get you just get your step.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: Your football as well.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I bet I I've come and gone a bit over
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: the years, just because did you play as an I
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: played a wee bit when I was young and then
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I played like.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: UNI League as an adult.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: But I wasn't it at Union neither was there was
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: any of the team. It's basically it was Edinburgh UNI
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: and every every department had a football team. I think
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: one of the lads who was on that course was like,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: we've it was a.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Computer science course or something like, na on it and
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: play football.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: It's like it's all the guys writing code and that,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: and he went, I just wanted to get a foot
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: team and so it ended up being like a bunch
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: of total psychles for Gilmot and Liver and and all that,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: and so they won the league.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Because like it was all boys, actually quite handy. And
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I played it. I played on that for a couple.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Of seasons, but I was, I was, I was there
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: for morale than my football.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: But and we played it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: And it was so funny as well, because if you
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: go booked you had to have a The guy gave
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: it like matriculation numbers for the UNI. He had to
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: keep your number it and it was so he's like,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: just memorize this if you get booked to that. I
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: remember one of the boys, Craig literally so it was
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: like one of the boys Craig absolutely chopped someday straight red.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: He gave his number it and the wee guy looks
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: up and he goes, your Simon fong. I wonder if
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Simon phone got to the end, you were forty quick.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: So I played there, scored scored.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: One goal, which is still there's still contested that a
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: lot of people think it was actually maybe across to
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: the back post, but it went in.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: So I'm loving it.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: But I I played a bit, but I just I
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: just loved it because it was social A big laugh.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: No, no, Rangers are Ranger. Yeah, so my dad's for Glasgow,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: so that's what I was.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: But any of the games I growing up, I went
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: a lot like my dad was a season ticket holder,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: so was my older brother. So and the teams. The
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: team then was unbelievable. I didn't realize when I was
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: quite young, howe needs late two thousands, I didn't realize
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: how lucky I was getting to see like.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: The do Bors and.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Living Crans and amarusso and not higher and I so
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: obviously didn't realize that we bought them off fraudulently, but.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed that. So I and then I've got grown.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Up in Edinburgh used to get tight at high school.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Everybody because a glory hunter. I haven't heard that in
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: a few years.
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: Save my new fans and my new fans waiting for
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: I now seeing that now.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: So but and then I went away fifth I didn't
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: really an eye on it for a while because when
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: I was like really coming up in comedy, Saturday is
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: just a gone day.
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: They also be a bit there because you see your
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: one side the other side.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: That's the other thing as well. And still and I've
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: started again, do you feel that.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Though, I mean you're at a stage now, I would
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: say is popular enough.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: I mean Kevin Blodge is a Celtic. Yeah, he doesn't hide.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: And I didn't feel to hide that. I've spoke about
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: it on stage before and actually like if you if
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: whatever you say is in jest, yeah you know. I
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: mean like you can say what if you want, I've
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: done it. If you're putting on a show, that's I think.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: If it's good enough, people are coming and it's it's
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: just about the intent behind it, like if people can
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: tell you're actually being serious.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Noybody wants to hear that about the football team.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: But I've made jokes about it and always make sure
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: if I've got a joke about Celtic and the show,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I've got a.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Joke about Rangers. It's just you can't You've got to
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: make funny.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: At oh and I've started gigging in Ireland a little
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: bit more the last few years as well, and like
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: every comedian talks about it there because you've got to
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: talk about it. You've got to talk about It'd be
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: weird if you didn't mention it because it's such a
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: away of life.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: But you've just got to.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: There's a fine line between a good laugh and saying
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: something that's you know, it's going to provoke people, and
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: you know, I think when I was new, he accidentally
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: crossed that line a couple of times. And then as
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: you get a bit more I'm mature and a bit better,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: you've got I can gauge it a bit better here.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: But I just because weekends were always like I was
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: on the road driving somewhere, and I just didn't watch
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: football for a couple of years. But I've been watching
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: quite a bit more in the last couple of seasons.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: And not an ideal start season for us, but I'm excited.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: I think I felt actually felt a bit sorry for Hearts.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: I hope they have a decent season this season, because
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: too well to get that close, to get that close,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: and then also then after dealing with losing it, to
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: lose manager and trouble big players, and so even as
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: a Rangers fan, I hope they have a good season
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: because I started well either.
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: Was good, not that quickly and beat them later on,
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: but tough, tough week last week.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: And also like it was it was maybe the most
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I've enjoyed a season in a wee while because the
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: title race was excited and there was someday in the
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: in the mix that isn't usually in the mix. And
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: even even as a Rangers trying you do like and
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: obviously we've we've really won in them for a while,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: but it has always been the biggest issue with Scottish football,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I guess is is if you want to get neutrals
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: in there, there's no many There's no many teams in contention.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: So hopefully this is the start yet yeah, turning around
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: a wee bit get a few more teams in the mix.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: And it was the last time it came down in
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: the last game of the season.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: It's been a while your time, maybe No, I can't remember.
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: I think with the one TB passed away when I
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: was striking and put Tan of Dice to No.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: I was late on.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: But you're right it's normally I selto have been dominant,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: but the fact that it was a three hosts right
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: up to the.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Split really yeah, yeah, they were just put a little
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: bit more excitement and and I've always been a big thing,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: like I've never really had a followed an English team
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: or that I've all if I've watched football.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: It's always been Scottish football.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: And I've always had a chip on my shoulder about
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: hearing English comedians slagging off the football and that that's true.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: It's true we can compete in terms of the level finance.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: But there is something about Scottish football that I love
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: watching because it's it's just it is that a wee
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: bit less technical, it's a bit more physical, it's no got,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: you've no go can ten minutes of stoppage time because
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: of all the var the decisions and all that, it
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: just feels a wee bit more pure sometimes. And I
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: know we get tight, but I've always stood by if
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: you scott if you're a Scottish person, like go watch
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: your team because will never There'll never be a better
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: financial situation if you're spending your money on Arsenal season tickets.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Insteady your team.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: But I so I'm watching a wee bit more now
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: I'll keep it. I'll be keeping an eye on Rangers
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: this season.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: A bit of interesting, be a bit obviously knew you
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: were coming on and your social media and stuff, and
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: then algorithm pops on every second post.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: It seemed it was one of yours.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Quite a lot of them are golf golf Daff's obviously something.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: I've started doing a YouTube thing with these two boys,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Lloyd and Zach Saltman, two brothers and the x DP.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Lloyd was actually the x He was the.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Number one amateur golfer in the world before they turned professional,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: and they're coaching staff and stuff at different different golf
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: coaches and that it just happened. I went and they
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: messaged me ages ago because I started putting up like
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I've got the clubs at the attic again. It was
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: after the last Rider Cup, hadn't they played in about
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: eight years, and I just I played a bit when
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: I was like twenty one.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: And then I think that Rider Cup there and.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: I got the clubs back out again and I was like, actually,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: do you know what, this would be perfect for me
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: now because during the day you're killing time up to
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: a gig, stuck in some town in the middle of
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: the They were like, if I just had the clubs
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: in the car, I could go kill a few hours.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: So I got the clubs that again, and they messaged
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: me and said, you want to come do for a
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: wee less and then we'll film it and that just
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: the lads are brand new. So we just got on
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: really well. And went, let's start filming some YouTube stuff.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: So we had a few guests on. We've got like
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: a few comedians coming on this month and that, and
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: a couple of like ex football players and sports people
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: in that.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: So it's been I love it.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: It's like it's like the dream, you know, like folks
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: having a laugh in the golf cart and having a
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: week pint after and then but it's actually work. Yeah,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: so I'll tell you what they're putting your golf game
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: on cameras.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: About to say if what's the most pressure standing up
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: there and we're at home now on stage a.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Bit, I said to the boys that they couldn't believe it.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: I went, I would much sooner walk out on the
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: playhouse stage today show the standing the first team out
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: where people watching, Yeah, I pick it up and chuck
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: it in the fairway.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: And they were like really honestly, And I was like,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: that's horrible, horrible because.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: He's just not especially now that like a few people
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: know who I am and that I'm always a little
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: bit worried that, like I saw that corner burns so
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: and so shine so, but I just do it through
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: like one of the apps. So for about the last
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: four or five rounds I've put in them playing about
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: thirteen thirteen two, so it's coming down. I've shot some
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: some of the best rounds I've had the last couple
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: of weeks.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: But then you know, then one day you just look like.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: All over with it? Is it the same course?
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: We use it, We play a few of the same courses.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: He's the coaching staff at my sober so we film
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: out the stuff there because it's Royal. He's at the
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Monkin Hall one. But we've we've done some stuff with
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Royal muscleber Day. But we've got a few more courses
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: coming up just now that like obviously we've put a
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: few videos that it's getting a wee bit easier for
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: us to get on to other courses in that. But
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: I love it, like it's It's totally ruined my life
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: golf because if I'm no golfing, I'm thinking about golfing.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: And that's what if you have a great clubs has
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: been on the loft of that went a title and
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the Rider Cups inspired you.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Well, I just I was literally in the middle of
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: going like I need a hobby because I'm sitting like
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: you just have all day to kill if the shows
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: at half seven, you maybe need to get to the
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: venue at six to deemy sound check. You're sitting in
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: a hotel room away from home, and like, I need
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: to find something to day during the day because I'm
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: going off my head. Even the gym that's an hour, yeah,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: the day. And then I got right into the Rider
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Cup and I went actually get the golf clubs. That's
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: that's a great thing today. Well I don't switch off
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: as well and now and that's it. And I'm quite
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: good abit, Like I'm not an angry golfer even if
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: I'm having a bad and I'm quite good at.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: God, Like I've got a few pals that are brutal
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: chucking clubs and that. But so but it's they say,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: if you have a good round, you come off and go.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I'm playing really well.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: I want to go back out. If you have a
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: bad round, you come off and go. I think I
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: knew what I was doing wrong.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: I should go back out.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: And fix it.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: It's a lot between nails on it.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: And see it.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Playing it with boys who are like amazing at it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: You just start They're playing a completely different It's they're
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: their gauge on a bad shot. You know, it's like
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: it's finished twelve feet for the pin. I wanted it
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: inside that I'd be running up.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: The fairway in my top off of us. So, but
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I love it, and I think because it's a.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: It's a it's kind of a perfect sport golf, because
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: like if I went and played a game of five
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: asides way use or anyone who's played a professional, I
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: wouldn't really have a good time because the level would
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: be way beyond what I'm capable of enjoying myself playing it.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: But I can play with two professionals because the handkeeper.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've got a few shots back on fuels.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: So I like it if you can pretty much play
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: with anybody and make it competitive.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wherea's a look sports? Did you really have that?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I mean you'd have to tie your feet together or something.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: For me, I don't know about that nowadays.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: I think you'd still probably do me for pace. I've
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: never been I've never been very athletic, but I love it.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Do you just both play?
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: I'm down at eight point six, but I've no played.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: You know, you've said, of course rounds and I would
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: be playing highland that we did a thing or four
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: weeks ago.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for charity, we tried to do a hundred holes
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: in a day. We got somebody too.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: It's a shift.
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: That scary thing was your golf, my golf. The worst
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: I was feeling in my back season up and ever
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: and the else hurting. I was getting better.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: But this is the thing about golf as well, Like
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: if I go and spend forty minutes on the range
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: and I'll go out and have a shocking round. Other
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: times you've been on holiday for a fortnight, come back
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: out and you're like playing the best golf you've ever played.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: So I always ask, I'm always acting the boys in
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: the videos, like how did you get at the top level? Like, yeah,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: if you're just having a day where you're no finding
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: the cub face of that, how do you get around it?
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: And he's like, just you just got to dig your
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: heels in. Lloyd was telling me his last opening ever
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: played at Mirfield. First tea three wood out of bounds,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: retied three wood out of bounds.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: He's walking down the first fair way. It was like
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: night mare start and I go, how do you know?
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: Walk off?
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Like and you just got to like bad day at
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: the office, let's dig the heels in. It's like I
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: finished around one over. I was like, you got something
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: out of ye Yeah, that I'd have been.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: They give you the same that I me an the
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: shape a wee bit with my golf swing and and
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: all that.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: So I'm getting it's thirteen, but I think I think
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I can get down these single figures.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: Saying you must have been to give it up three
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: eight years. You must have been a decent.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Oh no, it was like a total weekend.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Like I just used to go out with my pals
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: when I first started, like again, maybe range once every
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks and then go out and just have
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: a few pints with what I was useless, but I
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: just thought, and also it's twenty one. It's like it's
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: an expensive sport. I was working full time, and then
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I just made every reason not.
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: That it's a whole day as well. And it's eighteen
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: and I was a bit.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: I was about seventy or eighty quid and balls back
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: then as well in one round.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: But I can just about make it ruin with one
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: or two now, So I and now it's like, you know,
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: it's like you go through spells where you know this
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: is probably.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: Through spells.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: You think you've nailed it, you think you've solved it,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: and then it quickly reminds you that you haven't.
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: You were getting It's weird that I played Cat Candied
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: as well, right, but I played more that day and
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: I played than a year. That was the reality of it.
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: But as the game went on, you know, I play
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: of about fourteen and I was like the last two rope,
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: I was about eleven and twelve over, you know, And
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: there's no reason for that.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, apart from the thing that's got my scores coming
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: down more than obviously been working on my swing, so
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I'm hitting the ball better. But the thing that's actually.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Taking so many strokes off my game is just them
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: getting but them just getting me better at course management.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Like if if it was a Part four at five,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I'd just walk up to the team with my driver and.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Now they're like, there's probably three holes on an eighteen
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: of course where you should be hitting driver.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: He's like everyone else, you should just be heating a
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: long iron.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: And now I'm like, oh my god, I get to
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: play my second shot at the fairway and they'll buy
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: a tree. Was such an easier game when you're in
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: the middle, but I love it. So we've got we
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: put one of these videos every week now.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: And that's the ones that keep popping up. Man singes
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: no I so but that's good.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: That's good to know that they're working.
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: There'll be music.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Then you said he started out and that wats your
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: influences there again a big music guy now.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Massive by massive.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: I probably I'd probably rather put music on than like
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: a film with him in the house by myself. My
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: dad got me any good music again because he was
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: like he was just he was age that like my
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: mates granddads were at school, so his stuff you got
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: many like Cream Hendrix who all that stuff. So I
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: was in really good stuff quite.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Young and that's what made me play guitar and to
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: be in a band in that so.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: I wasn't all the country music. Now I'm the same
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: thing I've got. I've got a bit of a mental
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Spotify wrapped in the end of the year because I say,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: sometimes I just go through listening to Moretown for a
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: I was, I was young. I love a Van Dross
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: but that was on the Oasis later and then everything everything.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: So same again, like my mum, where's My dad was
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: into like the hard rock kind of psychedelic stuff, Pink
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Floyd and all that. My mum was like all the
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: motown stuff. So so we listened to all that growing up.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: And then my older brother was when Oasis was big
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: the first time that was his thing. Had an acoustic
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: guitar and saved sitting, they wonder Wall and all that.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: So I had all the all the brick pop.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Ping or the velve and all that memorable gigs over there.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Went to Oasis Murrayfield last year.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Unbelievable and I was. I think what made it even
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: better is we only got the tickets the day of.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: I've been trying to get tickets, like for a couple
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: of weeks, the Tuesday, the one that they added phenomenal,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: But there it was, the Sunshine Day. It was amazing,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: unbelievable again and there's a theme here. I remember bursting
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: it great and again don't look back and anger at
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: the end. Always great weird stuff.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: It's never like I think that was emotional though everybody
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: I could.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: I just I just remember, like the acting they missed
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: them the first time, like I remember, I remember that
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: last couple of gigs because remember they did was it
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Hamden or Murdyiel right at the end, and it was
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Kasabian and that they were opening for them, and it
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: had been in the news. They'd had their big, massive
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: argument and they hated each other and they were just
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: finishing these last couple of gigs, and so I remember
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: I did. I don't think I realized at the time
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I was missing the end. They're like an either and
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: then they get them back. And it was during the fringe,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: so I was already on like riding a high. I
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: just remember it was like and the weather was unbelievable.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I went there with my missus and it was that
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: was unbelievably good. And I saw last year, I saw
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: a guy called Tyler Childers who's a country guy and
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: he in the States. He's playing stadiums because it was
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: his first or second tour over here.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: We saw him in the old two and glass.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: It was only like two thousand out this world, like
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: just everybody on the stage was just unbelievable talented, like.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: So he sticks out. He was amazing. But I Oasis
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: were another level.
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: Would you ever re visit that band? Wise?
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I've spoke about another couple of comedians just today. It
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: is like a bit of fun because of a pal
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: who plays the drums in that. But just trying to
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: find the time. And also I've got a wee bit
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: shy at guitar again because it's no no, he just
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: like he never really took it, but he had just
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: like everybody. I think late nineties, he got an acoustic guitarist.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: I had the Oasis chord book and the Verve and
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: all that, so he can struck a few tunes. But
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: I that's the thing about music, it's like anything else.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Like every time I pick up the guitar. Now I'm
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: trying to re learn stuff that I used to be.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: I have to get a proper.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: So that that is frustrating getting back in because you've
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: got that memory of like I used to be with
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: the stuff and so but I'll get past it eventually.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I'll get to find a little bit more time and
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: and get back in there.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: But you played Jaws, didn't you.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: I never claimed I used to take you because it
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: used to get had so many guitar lessons.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I was like your brother, and I was like.
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: Guitar lesson book, the guitar lessons, like are you playing
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: in you? You know, like what's your teaching you you.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Used to go.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: That was my huge frustration. I couldn't go straight into something.
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: You know, so many people are like that at least finish.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: And probably most people back then picked up a guitar
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: and you think you can.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: I was pretty musical, but that I remember that being
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: another thing that made me go like, thank god I
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: found comedy because I worked in I worked in a
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: guitar shop for a wee while and a few of
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: the boys do think when you just see someone like
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: you see natural talent in front of your face and
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: you realize, like, I don't think I'll ever have that,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Like and I saw these boys that like worked in there,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: but they were also you know, like session musicians, Like.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: They get hired Rod Stewart needs a guitar player for
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: eight gigs, and one of them would go.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: And these were the guys in the.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Shop, and like a lot of them because it just
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: wasn't steady.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: They maybe get one tour, going on tour, like I
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: remember one of the guys, like we went on tour
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: with simply Read.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Or something as a replacement guitarists. But then you might know,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: get that for again a few months.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: So they also had a steady job working in the
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: shop and that, and you watch these guys and it's
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: like I was like I was pretty good, but they
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: were like one another level.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: And it's when you see that you go like.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: So disheartening, because I could probably practice every day for
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: you and you'll just.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Never get there.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Aware as when I started comedy, I was like I
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: realized quite early, like I think I've kind of got
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: a wee bit at the knack for this, Like I'm
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: caughting an onto this quite quickly. And I was pretty
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: used a bit when you were younger, Like when you
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: started playing football, do you feel like you weren't straight
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: away for a young age you were like, I think
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: I'm good enough to do this.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Probably when I was a kid, I can remember playing
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: older cash and thinking I'm better than that. But my
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: path to professional football is a wee bit on orthodox.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: But I always back myself by playing bit. I remember
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: right back at a young age thinking you know I better.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Then he's getting maybe three four years older than me.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: You're not thinking at that time you're going to.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Make it the same thing.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: And we've got that very Scottish thing and as we
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: don't want to go like I'm good because we've got
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: that thing of like we're always putting ourselves doing a
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: wee bit. And I never said out loud, I was
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: like I think, I'm I think I've found the thing
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I'm naturally good at.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: But I definitely did start I was like I'm thinking.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gig.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: I'm six months in. I'm having better gigs than a
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: few of these guys who've been going for a few years.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: And then you just kind of keep that in the
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: back of your mind and go, I think I'll maybe
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: finding something I'm pretty good at here.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I never really had that with music.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: I always as good as I ever got to a guitar,
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: I always felt like I had to work really really
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: hard it. And then you meet folk who just like
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: listen to a song twice and then they've got and
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: I was like, I don't think I'll ever have that,
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: so I'll stick to stick to stand.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Then what we do is usually when we finished the episode,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: we've got recommendations from our previous guests, right for you,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: and it's an album, a film, and a song, right
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: and the last guest was John Higgins, and his album
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: was the best of the Proclaimers.
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: That's Neck of Wood. His film was The Warriors.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Oh I know, I know, I I great film.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: And his song was I Am the Resurrection from stone Ros.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: He thinks he's walk on tune when he comes out.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: That's a that's a tune.
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: So can you give us three recommendations for the next guest.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'll do it for song because it's for album
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: since it's I just said his name and it's one
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: that not I don't think that many people know is
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: that that guy called Tyler Childers and he's got a
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: great album called Purgatory right, and it's just although it's
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: just him with an acoustic guitar, brilliant voice, and he's
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: like proper, you know, he's fronds, like he's coal miner's son,
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: and it's all about like hard living and growing up
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: and and apple h and all that, and.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: He's just I could listen to him for hours. So
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: that's a that's a brilliant album. Film. So many I
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: love a film.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: I can just sit down and it's such an old film,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: but again it's like it came from my dad. We
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: usually watch it in that wee bit between Christmas and
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: New Year. Is real Bravo, the old John Wayne one
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: and Dean Martin's in it. That's one of those ones
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: like I can just keep that on even if I
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: land on it halfway through. Or we just watched Project
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Hail Mary, which is just brilliant. I really enjoyed it.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: And then what was the other one? So that's an
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: album song A song, a song.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: You know what I'll do because that's my walkout for
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: this fringe is money for Nothing, dire Stress.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Maybe the best intro of all time. You know, it's funny.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I never I never get past halfway in the song,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: but that intro is one of the best of a
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: So I'll do that.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: Great choices mate, You've been a great guest.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: Thanks for all the best.
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: Thanks cheers.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: You need to come and see the show. I would
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: love to be a shout after them and I my
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: good