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“Scarlarious” · UNFIT FOR RADIO with JAYKERS

• 0:43
  SPEAKER_04: Welcome to Underfield Radio with Shakers.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_04: I am Shakers.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_04: This is episode 50, and we got a full studio today.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_04: The UFR family is here.
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  SPEAKER_04: Joining us is my wife, Stephanie, who's been a fan of several occasions.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_04: And my good friend, Mr.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_04: Charles.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_04: We might remember from episode 40.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_04: And of course, we also do have the senior star himself, Mr.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_04: Ray.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_04: How are you doing?
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  SPEAKER_02: Hi, I am Ray, Jacker's partner in crime.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-oh.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_02: I thought that was me.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm older than time itself.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_04: That's true.
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  SPEAKER_04: And we got Mr.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_04: Charles.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_04: How are you doing, Charles?
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  SPEAKER_04: Alright.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's no Mr.
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  SPEAKER_00: here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now I'm now you put me in the same age as Ray.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_00: I know Ray's older than me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got a little used to I know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Clean face, barely any gray showing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So hey.
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  SPEAKER_04: I was just raised up that way.
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  SPEAKER_04: It has nothing to do with your age, but we'll we'll call you from Charles from now on.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_04: Appreciate it.
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  SPEAKER_04: No, sir Charles.
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  SPEAKER_04: No, Mr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Charles.
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  SPEAKER_04: Just Charles.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you're a kid, different story.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_04: What's that?
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_04: Like Uncle Charles or something?
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: Something like that.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_04: So, this segment, we're gonna do some crazy stuff.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_04: What do we gotta do, Ray?
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's always a good time when the UFR family gets together.
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  SPEAKER_02: And with this crew in the studio, you never know where the conversation is going to go.
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  SPEAKER_02: So get comfortable, turn us up, and turn out your lights.
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  SPEAKER_02: And let's get into it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Spooky style.
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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to episode 50.
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  SPEAKER_02: Scolarious! Yeah.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_04: So, Charles, what are we covering?
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  SPEAKER_04: We got some uh what goes bump in the night?
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  SPEAKER_04: Explain.
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  SPEAKER_04: What goes bump in the night, Charles?
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: There's so much that goes bumping the night.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's ridiculous.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: But no, we're we're keeping that little light here with my favorite subject, horror.
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  SPEAKER_00: The genre in and of itself has so many facets.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh gotta love it, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's not one of those just it's an American thing, you know, it's universal.
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  SPEAKER_00: Worldly, every culture has some type of horror story, that's true, ghosts, whatever.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, day of the day for the Mexicans and stuff, yeah.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, didn't mean to cut you off.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you're you're going into it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so that's no just one thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um it's all over, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of more you see a lot of more um Korean horror, Japanese horror, now Indian horror is getting into it.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_00: No, granted, it's not Italians, Lord, they have horror.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, and they um every culture is different in terms of where their um the basis of that horror comes from.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_00: So figured we're not talking about it.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: Most people think I'm weird anyway, dealing with horror because you know that's kind of my life.
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  SPEAKER_00: You go to my office, you all you see is not the horror stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jason, what uh zombies, everything is just in my office all around.
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  SPEAKER_00: Outside of my the football stuff has its own little wall.
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  SPEAKER_00: But other than that, it's horror.
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  SPEAKER_04: Did you ever have nightmares?
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  SPEAKER_00: Not really, no.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, I guess it just depends on what scares you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: But to ask your to to to find out the the the root of it all, what got you into horror in the first place?
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  SPEAKER_04: That's a good question.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, honestly, I would say well, this goes back to when I was actually a kid, a little kid.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um this is not exactly, I guess, horror related per se, but this is going a little bit from a personal standpoint because I was mostly raised by my grandparents.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um my mom and I didn't have a great, necessarily great relationship, but the one thing we kind of always did was watch horror movies.
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  SPEAKER_04: Oh wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: And though, as scary as she was, she loved watching horror movies.
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  SPEAKER_00: She liked to be scared.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was kind of a thing on a Friday, you know, go to like Blockbuster, for those that know what Blockbuster is, and movie gallery.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dating myself slightly, but you know, those video stores were there.
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  SPEAKER_01: I liked Hollywood Hollywood video.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_04: I miss Blockbusters.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_00: I could literally work in any of those because I constantly was there.
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  SPEAKER_01: I would read the backs of all the movies and like, okay, synopsis, right?
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_01: Which is why I like trailers.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I would take my stack of movies, take them up to the front, and then actually had to pick like the top three that I wanted to get and then put all the rest back.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because they had a checkout limit on some of those places.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like you can always do like five or especially if they're new releases, they didn't let you take too many new releases.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep, yep.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_00: When you take them back, be kind, rewind.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Had one of those convertible tape things that would rewind it for you.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it'd go real quick.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_01: Red Cor Red Convert Red Corvette.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that is so funny.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it was that was what got me into it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um was that time with her because that was really the only time I felt it was your bonding time.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, essentially.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so outside of that, it was all right.
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  SPEAKER_00: But that's where I really got into um horror movies.
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  SPEAKER_00: Honestly, I wish I could remember what was the first one that you I actually saw.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I know it was something that was would be considered a B movie.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, there were a lot of those back in the day.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and which even more now, more so.
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  SPEAKER_00: But everybody has a some sort of camera, digital device, and so they're making their own little movie.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, those are those um uh found footage movies.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I hate those.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: Found footage with a passion.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_01: I hate that.
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  SPEAKER_01: They make it look like like you like someone found that footage.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, like Blair Witch Project.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I hate Blair Witch project so badly.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, they started that mess.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_00: And it was like everybody.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_01: Some people just can't I think m most of it is because of the moving, you know.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_01: Some people can't handle that motion, yeah.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, I know people who have gotten sick nauseous, they would just have to leave.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not because of the movie itself, but just because of the way that it was it was taped.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, because people running and you got the camera moving.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to look to see what they're seeing, and I can't see anything.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, keep it standing so I can see what you're seeing.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's the whole premise, is because they don't have a whole lot for you to look at, so they make it scared.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so you can't see it.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_04: They really fluff it up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it doesn't scare me, it just irritates me.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like fine.
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  SPEAKER_01: But that's not that's a whole nother genre, too, is the found footage.
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  SPEAKER_04: So, to that question, is there any movies that scare you or that kind of disturb you, or you're like, okay, that was a little deep.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: The only thing that bothers me because I'm afraid of spiders, that's my thing.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh spiders, I'm not, yeah, we're not friends at all.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're not friends with spiders.
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  SPEAKER_00: Christine can tell you all the stories about spiders where I like, yeah, you want downloading.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: Did she ever like put stuff spiders like like in your in, you know, in certain places to try to scare you?
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, because she has issues with spiders, but she will actually take care of it.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, like a fake spider, you know, like her.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_04: So you make her kill the spider, Charles.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_00: I don't make her kill the spider, that was her choice to kill the spider.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, if I leave the room and it's gone when I come back.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: You won't do it, Pastor.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're trying to get the job done.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what she's doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
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  SPEAKER_00: Good job, Christy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because yeah, nope, I'm not trying to hear that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because everybody has that one thing, and that for me, that's the spiders.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so when I see a spider movie, I'll watch it, but I'm like arachnophobia.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm a I'm a little twitchy though, during the whole thing, though.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_00: I start looking around.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, because you because there are spiders and they're definitely around some of like arachnophobia.
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  SPEAKER_00: There are spiders in the world that big, like in Australia.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was like, yep, nope.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's one place I'm never going.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_04: What about you, Ray?
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  SPEAKER_04: Does spiders scare you?
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, to some extent.
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  SPEAKER_02: I I will kill them, but um what about like a tarantula or something like that?
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_04: Something was coming at me.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I have a true story about tarantulas.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_02: Oh Lord, you know I have here we go.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_02: You know I have a story about everything.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, this is a true story.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_02: This happened back in the 70s.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um at uh we had a church group that was going from Scottsdale.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: We were driving to eastern Arizona, and I can't remember the name of the city now that we went to, but it's near the border with New Mexico.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_02: Shoot.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, we were going, and I was uh drafted as a driver, and I had a car full of high school boys in my 71 Pinto.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_02: So I had one in the front and probably three in the back, so it was kind of crowded.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_02: And we were going uh 60, uh US 60, and um all of a sudden we were east of uh globe and everything out there, and it was this was at night, and through the headlights I saw stuff on the road.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: What's that?
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: What's that?
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: What's that?
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  SPEAKER_02: So I no no traffic.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_02: So I stopped for a minute.
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  SPEAKER_02: The road was crowded with thousands and thousands of tarantulas.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes, they were making their migration, and uh one of the boys got out and got one and brought it in the car, which it didn't bother me because I knew he was going to hang on to it.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't gonna come up and see me.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um, yeah, and then uh weird coincidence, many years later, when I was uh subbing in a classroom, I ran across a National Geographic magazine, and it was talking about the migration of the Tarantulas in eastern Arizona.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_02: And it was like, hey, it's a true story, it really worked, and I saw it, and they do that every year at the same time, whatever time that was.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it's spring or fall, summer, but um they were making their migration and they do that every year.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_02: So that's the true story about tarantula spiders.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: But you touched on uh actually uh which maybe why this movie was made in Arizona.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh 1977, William Shatner, Kingdom of the Spiders.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_02: I've heard of it, but I've not seen it.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: That is nothing but spiders literally taking over a town, an Arizona town, which is it they didn't I can't remember the name of the town, that town, but it was about maybe an hour's drive away from Tucson.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: So it had to be somewhere in that vicinity.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: And it was just these spiders just it was in Camp Verde.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's where it was.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it was yeah, literally spiders.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'll have to see that taking over the movie.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know it was made here.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's why I was curious because they kept talking, the references was about Arizona State and Tucson.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, are they in Arizona right now?
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: They weren't really live, Trench List.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, they were.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I heard that I was like, yeah.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: See, that's why Sharon's crazy right there, dealing with all yeah, with literal spiders that could literally kill them at any point in time.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: So, but yeah, that definitely brought that uh movie to mind was that one.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_04: That's crazy.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, right.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't even think about that movie.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't either.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_04: So, what's changed since you gotten older in uh horror, Charles?
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  SPEAKER_04: Like what what have you noticed has changed?
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: You forgot the most important person of it with your uh equation.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: You forgot lovely Stephanie over here about hers.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_01: Let's find out this.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_01: So I often go back to my roots.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's uh I was actually supposed to be a boy.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I wasn't supposed to be.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: My mom thought she was having a boy.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: I know where you're going to be able to do.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: Is where I'm going with this.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: Good movie, good movie.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: She originally wanted to name me Steven.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_01: So my mom's a huge Stephen King fan.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: Makes sense?
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: Turned out I came out and I was a girl.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: They were wrong.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_01: So hence I got the name Stephanie.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: The other thing is that uh they wanted to give me a different middle name.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: I can't remember what it was, but they decided that because one of the movies that was my dad's favorite was Christine, which happens to be my middle name.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: You remember that movie?
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: The car, yeah.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_01: The famous, yes.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: So she's definitely Christine.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_01: Plymouth Fury Fury, yes.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, okay, okay.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: Does Christine know about that?
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, now she does.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_04: Was Christine named after that movie, too?
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, I was gonna say because we never that's a famous movie, jeez.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm always messing with her about that uh about that car and the Christine.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: Now you know somebody who's doing it.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's one of my favorites too.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, um, when I watched it, I was like, this makes sense.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: I watched her.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: That was a crazy movie.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: Car was in love with his owner.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_03: That was a crazy movie.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_03: You see that movie?
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_03: So you didn't see that.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_02: No, I never even heard of it.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's one of those movies.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_02: No, I never heard of it.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, if if any anybody who wanted to kind of hang out with with this with the owner of the car, the young kid that that owned it, she would kill him.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: She'd run him over, and all these things would happen, and she'd get wrecked, and then she'd come back into like perfect shape.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, it was pretty cool.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_04: Now that I think about it, I think they actually got the premise of that movie from the Twilight Zone.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_04: Because if when I watched the Twilight Zone back in I wasn't alive in the 50s or whatever, but I watched reruns.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_04: So when I watched the the old, you know, they had one of those episodes of the car coming alive and it like started running over people, and then the guy was starting to get blamed for it.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_04: He's like, Look, I I've been home with my wife eating dinner, and the car's going out and doing things on its own, and that's crazy.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know that episode.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_02: I thought I'd seen them all, but I don't remember that one.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's an episode.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_04: Oh I'll look it up on YouTube.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we'll look that up.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: My mom often does tell me though, she says, you know, I was watching Cujo when I got into labor with you, so you're lucky you didn't get that.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_02: What a name.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, it's uh ra rabid dog.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, yeah.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, St.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: Bernard, yep.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_04: So you like uh you like scary movies more than me, Stephanie.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_04: What what do you think drew you into that?
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I I like the suspense.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm more of like I I I want to to I like the psychological thrillers or the things that make you think, or just the suspense of of things.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm I'm I'm not impartial to a slasher movie, you know, just but I I like the the mind bending, oh, I didn't see that coming kind of thing towards the end of the movie.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: And there's quite a few that are like that.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: And every time I look back at movies that I'm like, oh, this one happened to be really, really good.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: It always ends up being a psychological thriller or horror movie, yeah.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: So you liked um Silence of the Lamb seven.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: Did you see the uh the one with um Nicolas Cage long leg?
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: That one was interesting.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: I guess you're a psychological thriller, but it was definitely interesting where it went.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that became there were so many things thrown that was just crazy.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: Crazy.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: But also uh weapons the latest one that got released last this year or last year.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: That one was is a psychological as well, but it was actually done good, done well because it's the story is told from three different perspectives.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I like that.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: And so yeah, that definitely fills in a lot of the blanks that you're like, what what's I'm missing something?
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: Then they do go to the other perspective, like uh that's like vantage point, yeah.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: Not a horror movie, but it's still pretty good when you get the a movie that shows you different perspectives.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so yeah, that yeah, that one actually was pretty good.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: I was quite surprised when I saw it.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: But granted, they need to do a prequel because they can't just introduce a character that is central to the whole story and uh give no backstory.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: So yes, but sometimes prequels or those ones that come before or origin stories for horror movies doesn't always do what it's supposed to.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because it can kind of ruin the whole thing.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it just depends on the movie.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, very unfortunate, but yeah, that is very true.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's so true.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: Crazy.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, they're yeah, you get I guess you gotta go for those, you have to go approach them with a little bit of caution and like uh accept some things that you just may not even get an answer to.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_04: So Stephanie pr uh prefers the psychological, you prefer the supernational or the slashers, the creatures, oh yeah, the creatures with the spiders.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_04: What do you prefer, Charles?
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't know if I have necessarily a preference.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um I just like to feel uh quote unquote scared.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: If it's if it's the if the story is pretty decent, I'm down with it.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um what but what is it that's that actually will put you on the edge of your seat?
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: What actually scares you?
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: Is it gonna be one of those movies that that how act the jump scare scares you?
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: Or is it more of like the I'm gonna be sick to my stomach because I'm really thinking about this kind of thing?
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: No, um jump scares can be good if it's done, right?
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: But most of the time, jump scares you can predict when it's gonna happen.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: Music, yeah, music gorgeous anticipation, yeah, or just the like this would be a good time when they go along and like, all right, they're gonna be a jump scare.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: Most of the time it's going to be the jump scare because you saw it coming.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sometimes the camera work gives it away.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, most definitely.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, uh, okay, whatever.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: But um, I'd say I think Conjuring, that was a good one.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: I would say that in the past ten years or so that has been awesome.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: But that that conjuring revitalized the horror genre, I think, in my opinion, anyway.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: Because prior to that it was been sort of limping along.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um because if you look at history, horror has now in the past say five years, there's almost a horror movie released every month almost every week in theaters because you know, that genre has you know revitalized over the years because everybody wants to be scared wants to do that distraction.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: But and I say that it was really started with conjuring.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um because that was such a good movie and that was definitely had some good scares in it, you know.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: And it's pretty believable in a lot of aspect uh uh aspects because it was also has some bases of truth with you know the warrants.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's why they can kind of continue to go and spin off and do more and do more because they're still playing on that same premise.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: Because you know, the c with the conjuring universe you have um the got Annavale universe and none.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: They all intertwine in insidious.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: They all intertwined together.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: The curse of La Llorona.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: And the sad part is I had yet to see that one.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't need to see it.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: I already know what the m what it's about.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_04: What is that?
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_04: I never heard of that.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_04: What is that?
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: So the the curse of La Llorona is uh um La Llorona means like the the weeping woman.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_01: She's the one that's crying, and apparently she it's bas said said it's based on a true story, and it's one of those folklores.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_04: Um all those Mexican fairy tales are supposed to be true stories.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um that she killed her, she drowned her kids.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: No way in the in the river.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: And then now she goes back and she cries for them.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, I guess her, you know, there was a lot of stuff that in the movie might show you um if they still continue to tell the story the same way that she had some, she had discovered her husband was cheating on her, and and so there was in stories, Mexican stories or um Spanish stories, they always have some sort of um human element to it.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of it could be um political or it could be um like tied to the family, yeah, or tied to the religion, or there's some reason or something that they're tying it to.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: Something relatable.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: Something, yeah, something tangible or something um close to home, and that's what they use to scare you with.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: That's interesting.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um there's a lot of other um stories like Mexican folklore stories like the what they used to scare kids with.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: You don't go to bed, we're gonna get uh the cuckooy, the boogeyman, and he's gonna come and get you, and he's a shadow, and you can't see him, and you gotta go to bed.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: So he knows so they would kind of scare kids with this stuff.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, they want to make sure that you know the kids listen, so they tell them these kind of scary stories that are passed down from generations and generations.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_04: Can I share the one that your dad told you about looking at dogs going to the bathroom?
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_04: Oh boy, go ahead.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_04: Ray.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_04: Did you know, based upon what Stephanie was just saying, that if you look at a dog going number two, okay, you'll get pink eye.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_04: I never heard this.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_04: I heard from her.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_04: See?
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_04: She's like, yeah, my dad told me this.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_04: Blah blah blah blah blah.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_04: If you watch the dog go take a poop, you're gonna get pink eye.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, yeah, the wind's blowing.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_04: Like, what are you talking about?
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_01: Did you actually believe this is legit?
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: As a little kid, we would believe this stuff.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'll have to question that.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I have a story that goes along with what you're talking, similar to what you're talking about.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: Of course you do.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: Let's hear it.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_02: I think I saw this on uh the proof is out there, and it was an actual video, and I believe it's real, I don't think it was generated.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_02: It was an actual video of a witch.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_02: It looked like a lady on a broomstick flying around, and this was supposedly taken in Mexico, and she was flying around in the sky, and and it just looks so real.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_02: It wasn't CGI and it wasn't fake, it just looked real.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: And but talking about you know, this witch lady, it that's what it reminded me of.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: So you sure it was an AI?
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sure.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_02: No, it wasn't.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of those videos online are at all.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, it looked real to me.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_02: And and the analysis, as I recall, said it was real, so that's all I know.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_04: Well, it looked like Jason was getting ready to walk in the studio, but obviously it wasn't real.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_02: I saw a skeleton walk in the studio, so it's true.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: He left his he left his body outside.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: And for the record, that's Michael, not Jason.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: My bad.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: You would you would literally get uh uh you get thrown out with that one, yeah.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, you would you get thrown out of the room.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_04: It's like Michael Myers.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_04: Like I said, I'm not a hundred percent into horror and Halloween and all this.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_02: No, I wouldn't have known the difference.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_02: So scary, scary.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but yeah, it it's um I'll get it.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's all fun and games and in a lot of aspects, so you can't take it too seriously, but again, it's all um facing some form of reality and at at the heart.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um because takes a chainsaw mascot has the bases in.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_02: I would not watch that thing.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_02: There's no way I would watch it.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_02: I've seen it.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_02: No, I would never watch it.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: Some of those I can only get through so much of it before I'm like, ah, I don't want to see him cutting up people.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's the sound of the chainsaw that really gets you.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_04: So you can watch that movie on mute and be okay?
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: I might.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: I might be able to.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_04: That's creepy.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: But most of the time I get halfway through it and then I'm like, no.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it doesn't do it for me.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: So the body horror gets you.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: More or less.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_00: Because uh because I have yeah, I'm not sure if you saw the remake of Evil Dead.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: That one was I I had a hard time watching it because they had so much body horror weight, it was too much.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: It was just over the top, literally over the top, with terms of the body mutilations and stuff.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: It was well, more or less self-mutilation, and it was like, is it really necessary?
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: The original was nowhere near had a it granted, it had a lot of blood in it, but it wasn't like this.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: It was, you know, it in the way he with the original Sam Raimi's version.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: I love that movie.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_01: That one was great, and and I just I think it's because I like that kind of goofy horror.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think it's silly.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I used to love stuff like that when I was younger.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_01: I watched those movies when I was, I don't know, 10.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, because no, because no, with uh Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell, no, they make fun of themselves, they don't take it seriously.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's why there's with Evil Evil Day, Evil Dead 2, and Army of Darkness.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Army of Darkness.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because it was all it was more comedy, yeah, and uh horror, no.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: Did you see um uh what is it called?
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: Let me see in my my notes here real quick.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_00: But but yeah, they yeah, but yeah, there were the remake was uh no no it was like they they just went over the top, which is why it didn't do well.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: I personally think because of that, they went too far with some of that uh with with the with body heart.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's like uh that was okay.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, which one that's the Peter Jackson movie, okay.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: I remember and that was kind of like gross in its own right, but still kind of silly.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah, because there, yeah, there's actually a few different movies called Brain Dead.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's the one where they like I don't know, they want to stick something in the blender and yeah, I remember that one.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: Brains in the blender, it's gross.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's disgusting.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: But that's the kind of yeah, that's the kind of stuff that I'm just like, oh I don't know if I can see me.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'm more of a psychological, but I really do like the the the dark comedy.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's a few out there like similar like that that has uh the dark humor and stuff.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_00: Because I think um Art the Clown, Terrifier, I think that's some of what they're trying to go for.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_01: Well, speaking of clowns, uh Attack of the Killer Clowns.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: I love that one too.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_01: I can watch that one.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_04: You like clowns, Ray?
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_01: He's good at clowns from outer space.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I have a clown stream.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_00: We got two.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_01: My favorite my favorite part is when they're when they're going into this like little fun house and the cop comes to check on them, and then he one of the clowns, like um, I think he throws up on them, or he to he he he makes them like disintegrate, and then he puts a bunch of whipped cream on top of them.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: And then he puts a cherry on top, and then he walks like what?
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, stuff like that that I love.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they cocoon everybody and cottage.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_02: No, I it's fun to watch.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_02: I like clowns, but my wife was just telling me the other day that she does not like clowns anything to do with them.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_04: Did you just find this out after 50 years of marriage?
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_02: But anyway, um, I do have a true clown story.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_02: It just it it's it's gonna sound strange, but that's okay.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I'm a strange person, so no, not you.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: Years ago, when I was involved in theater at uh Scottsdale Community College, we did a particular production, and I don't remember which one it was now, and um the director wanted the tech people to put on a little show before the play started.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: So he had us dress up as clowns and we did a little skit.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_02: And um, so I had clown makeup and stuff, and um anyway, we did a little skit, the three of us.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_02: But the interesting part was that after the show was done, I still had to go to work.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: I cleaned office buildings at night, so even after the play was done, I had to go do all my office buildings, and um for the most part I left my clown makeup on.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_04: And um no way, you did what I did.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't take it off before I left, it was just easier to leave it on.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_02: So I cleaned office buildings with a clown face, and once in a while I'd run into one of the occupants and they'd want to know what was going on.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_02: So that was that's my true clown story.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_02: So that that really happened.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_00: So you're the clown in the story.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was the clown in the story, yeah.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_00: That was double meaning.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was a weird one.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, well, you know I'm a weird person, okay?
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_01: I just remembered um speaking of the evil dead, you've not seen it, but do you want to know what the star's name is?
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_01: Do you remember?
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: For Evil Dead?
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: Or uh Army of Darkness.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_00: You meant Bruce Campbell?
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: Ash.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, his actual actually, yes.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_00: His actual name is Ash.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, pole name Ashley.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: Pretty funny.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's got more like slapstick comedy, so it's like uh you stick um like the three stooges in like a horror movie.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that would be fun.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_02: I could watch that.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: I could watch that.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that one actually wasn't as bloody as the rest of them.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: That was they were pretty it was pretty light.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that one was pretty light.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um considering where it where it came from, but yeah.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: But hey, again, horror stretches a lot ways um you know from the well, yeah, there's a lot of movies that you wouldn't think that are horror movies, are considered horror movies, which is just crazy.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's simple.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna get into that conversation about the Christmas and oh Gremlins?
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: No, die no Die Hard.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, die Hard.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's a whole different thing.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: That's not really a horror movie.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_04: That's a Christmas movie.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_04: That's not a Christmas movie.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_00: See, at least I'm not the only one that says it's not a Christmas movie.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_04: Home Alone Christmas movie.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_04: Die Hard.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_04: You can watch that in the middle of July.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_00: Griminals movie.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'll protest that one.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: Griffin's is not a Christmas movie.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think totally Christmas movie.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_00: This is nowhere near a Christmas movie.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: I could watch it every Christmas.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-uh.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_04: That's a debate I won't fight, but the the other one, shh.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_04: Sorry, Bruce.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: That is not a Christmas movie.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, yeah.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_00: Moving on from that one, because we like that one go for days.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: So explain to explain to the audience what kind of uh what kind of not subgenre, but what kind of genres are there for for horror movies that you can just off the top think of.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you already said that you got the creature feature, slasher.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_00: Paranormal or psychological.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, ghost stories uh bump in the night.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um comedy comedy horror movies.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_00: I I I sort of like, uh on on the comedy horror.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I I'll watch it, but it's no Beetlejuice for you.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: Beetlejuice was okay, but it it wasn't it's because it doesn't scare you.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it was and no, it was supposed to be supposed to be a comedy, so I'm like, why you put the put horror label on it just because he's a poetry guy?
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like, uh you could just let the horror off and say it was a comedy move on.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_04: What about like Ghostbusters?
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: Ghostbusters is not necessarily labeled a com uh horror, even though you could say it is because it's a ghost, but it's not, it's more they can uh label as science fiction.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_01: Science fiction, yeah.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: Which is just funny, it's because it's like why couldn't the same thing be said for Beatles?
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_01: Alien's a science fiction movie.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, but it also can be considered a horror as well.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: And there's a lot of overlap in a lot of these, so which kind of sucks.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's hard to kind of just put one label on a lot of stuff, yes.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just like those rom coms can be adventure to we're not getting into that.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it it's all it's all good, no, because it's um that that's where we get some of the like when I have my uh Michael Myers stuff, um everybody knows that Michael Myers, uh Jason, which there's actually the prequels uh the prequel for um Friday the thirteenth.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh Friday the thirteenth, yes.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, which deals mostly with Jason's mom, which is actually it gives you the premise, right?
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: Which was uh literally the start of Friday the thirteenth, was uh his mom committing the uh committed a murder.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_00: So they sort of took that took the first one and just chopped it up into uh made it a TV uh T V series.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_01: So Friday the thirteenth is is to explain is more of a slasher movie.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's slasher, and then later on they once they introduced the actual Jason character, which came out the hockey stick and mask, you know.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: Which they did with a two um brought in the mask and all that stuff, but then we actually really get to get into Jason and the later ones.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like a three.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_01: Didn't they do Jason versus Michael Myers?
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_00: No, they did Jason versus um Freddie.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_01: Oh Nightmare in Elm Street always got me.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_01: That one's a little different just because you know he gets into your dreams and then he kills you.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: Freddie Krueger.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's the scary one.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_00: They that one was actually pretty that was pretty good, and then later on they once the the series uh the sequels started coming out, it's like any weekend.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's almost like uh left it alone.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's almost like um what is that movie where everyone dies after watching after watching the film document the grudge?
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: No bird box?
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: No, that was a good one too, though.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_03: You have to see it.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_03: That's what they always say in the movie.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_03: You have to see it.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_03: You have to see it.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_00: Have you seen that one?
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that one bad.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_00: It was it was definitely different, it was different for sure.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_00: But it was uh it wasn't bad because I there's a another one.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_00: It was either a sequel or a prequel.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: I can't remember which which it is.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um for that one.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_00: The first bird box, I saw the second one.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_04: There's a second one.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't know there was a second, I only saw the first one.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_04: Is Sandra Bullock in both of them?
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um honestly I can't remember.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: That's how unremarkable it was.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Yeah, cuz cuz I can't remember, like I said, I can't remember if it was a prequel or a sequel on that one.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it was um similar to the um Quiet uh apparently there's a bird there's a Barcelona version.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think maybe that's the one I saw.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um but similar to the quiet place where Oh yeah, yeah, they actually you can't speak anything because it will come and get you.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and yeah, because there's a sequel and a prequel.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_01: So that I like that they actually did sign language in that one.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_01: That was pretty cool.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_04: She knows ALS.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, nice.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_01: A SL.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_04: Same thing.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_04: I'm dyslexic.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_04: ASL.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_04: True.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_03: DSL is all the same.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_00: I knew what you were talking about.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_03: American Sign Language.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_00: No one else is.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: I knew what you were saying.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_00: DSL.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_00: You're funny.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but yeah, that that was um definitely um interesting from that type of uh so what do you think about uh uh but book ad adaptations?
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's 50-50 on the book adaptations.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: They can be done well and then they can just be a bunch of crap.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_01: One of the ones that is a a a good book adaptation is the shining.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_01: But apparently the director didn't do it how the book was, so he just elaborated a little more.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_00: Which sometimes it it's necessary to take creative licenses with with those uh adaptations.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um because unless you're reading through the whole thing, it's going you may not get all that you need out of it.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: There'd be a lot of open questions.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_00: A good example is that Twilight series.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: I got caught up in the books because of some co-workers, and so when I saw the the movie, was seeing all the movies, I was like, you need to explain that they cause they cut out so much that would explain the soul a lot about the movie that it would actually have probably been better if they left it in, but they cut it out so much so it kind of it wouldn't be so long, yeah.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it would it would have been maybe long, but you wouldn't be left with a lot of questions.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: I see.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_04: Because then now you want to answer your questions and then it like uh re-revolves.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe, but there's a lot of people who don't do that, yeah.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_01: You either read the book or you read the or you watch the movies.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: Not a lot of people who go back and forth.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_04: See, from the production standpoint, I would see that being necessary because then you can refer to each other.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_04: But what you're saying is somebody get burnt out and I want to go.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: People will either watch the movie, they're moviegoers or they're book readers.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a lot of people who read the books don't like to see the movie because they like the book.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because they chut out so much in the movies just because they don't want to make it a four or five-hour movie, you know, uh before the Marvel came along and made it thank you.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_01: Marvel movies last forever.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_04: For real.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_04: I take naps during those movies.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_01: My son makes fun of me, and I'm like that, but look how many years.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's like one story and it's like this long.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's like 15 years long.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_04: I just fall asleep during one action scene.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_04: I wake up during another action scene.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, what did I miss?
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_04: That's so much.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_04: I don't feel like I missed nothing.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_01: They're still fighting.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's the most costly nap ever.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_01: My dad used to do that.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_01: He used to take us to the movies just so he can nap.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_04: Oh man, it's nice.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_04: It's nice, it's dark.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_04: Really?
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_04: They got the recliner seats, they feed you the salt and the sugar.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, Wake me up when you guys are done.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_04: Let's see a double feature.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_01: What's the last move horror horror movie you've seen in the theaters?
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, in the theaters.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_00: Last one, Resident Evil.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that was good.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_00: That one was not.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: I like, I like those the the adaptations from the video games.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: Silent Hill was a good one too.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_00: Sort of.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_00: But they don't always work out well because everybody keeps saying they like this last Resident Evil.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, and I would watch it.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_00: Granted, my perspective was maybe clouded because I had a bunch of teenagers beside around me making all this noise, and in my whole head, I would tell them to shut up.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_00: And then you can't focus on the movie.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: And so I might have missed some things, but yeah.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I was watching it, I was like, uh, it's not, it's not exactly going where I think it's gonna go.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, and then the ending, I was like, that there's a crock ending, is it's like they set it up for there to be another one, which they're part more than likely won't be, and so it's Don't end it like that.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's because they didn't have really any place to go.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, more than likely.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'd rather for you like have at least have somewhat of a happy ending because that's where they were heading for it was going for before they made it all this ended it the way it was.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you the opening was there to make it more of a quote unquote happy ending, but then you just turned did a quick 90-degree turn and went elsewhere.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like don't don't start something else and not finish it.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_00: Is it's like and especially knowing there's probably more likely not going to be another one.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_01: So to explain this a little bit for Ray, because I know Ray doesn't do scary movies, right, Ray?
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: So this movie is sort of one of those now become classic zombie movies.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um the premise is that there's this virus that comes out, which, you know, people can say it's like the coronavirus, just comes out out of nowhere, but it it changes everybody who's exposed to it.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: And then there's this person who isn't exposed to anything, and then she goes and she tries to find the cure or kill all the zombies.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_01: And so, yeah, that's kind of the premise of the movie.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: That was the original original, the original Resident Evil.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: This one, last Resident Evil, is more based off of the game, but not the the current series before they went off on on to a series.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_00: Because Netflix even had a uh did a Resident Evil series which ticked me off because they ended it after season one.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, don't get me invested, you know.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_00: Now I got questions.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_00: And so, but ultimately, yeah, that was deal with a lot of various zombies.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_00: Cause that's I honestly that's kind of my I guess you could say zombies are my favorite ones.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_00: Because my favorite, yeah, because my favorite movie is Return of the Living Dead, because that's all I have like pops of of uh the zombies from that movie.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh oh, the little little figurines.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, yep, yep, yep, yeah.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I got a big um head of um Tarman, uh, because that uh movie has spanned a few different series, uh its own sequels.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like a franchise.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a big thing.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_00: Then there's another, there's a re I don't want to call it a remake per se.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's more of a this is what happened after the forever first movie that's being released.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, it's being released, I believe, next month or early December.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um and this happens the time frame is six months after the first uh events happened.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_00: So they're uh but yeah, that's when I'm I'm very curious because they haven't released any kind of trailer for it yet.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm oh fully excited to see that one, see what they do with because it is my favorite movie, so I was like, I got to see it.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_01: What Night of Living Dead, like no return.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they've done so many Night of the Living Dead.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_01: They did they did like an old one and like a remake.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the remake wasn't bad of the uh Night of the Living Dead.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's a little different than the first one, yeah.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_01: Like the way that they killed them off a little bit.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they changed some of the characters around and stuff.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_00: It made it all made it all good.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and I and those were good, you know, um, because you know, I like zombies, which is theoretically something that could happen.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so actually I I sort of prepared myself for it.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: No, the zombie, I keep saying that there if there's a zombie apocalypse, I'm completely prepared.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_00: I have my I have my weapons, I'm getting so wow.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_01: So you're not really into the comedy horror, the satirical horror you could do, unless if it's return of the light.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_00: I can watch any horror.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's just a matter of if I'm gonna really enjoy it or not.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_01: And only because it has zombies.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_01: So you've confirmed that zombies are your favorite.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, zombies are my favorite, but I also like no werewolves, vampires, no witches every now and then.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_00: But um, just because of the transformative nature of like werewolves, it's that's pretty cool.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_00: But there's been so many variations of American Werewolf in Paris, yeah, yeah, and London.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_00: Or London.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_00: And uh so many various ways these movies have gone about.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the transformation of a wolf.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's everybody's interpretation has been different and interesting and because the one with um I think um Michelle Pfeiffer Jack Nicholson Wolf, that was a werewolf movie.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um which is actually pretty good.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_00: And that version of the werewolf was more subtle over the course of the the movie, and so it they didn't go full-on hairy like the wolf man that came out a few years ago.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: It was just so little differences, a little more hair here, a little ears.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_00: Or like Teen Wolf.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_00: Sort of like Teen Wolf.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_00: And uh which no, which was actually Teen Wolf wasn't a cost, though, yeah.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that one was I like that movie.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_02: That was that was a good movie.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_02: I like that movie.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_01: He did another movie, he did another horror movie, it was The Frighteners.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_01: Have you seen that?
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, the Frighteners, that was a never heard of that one in the comedy, too, yeah.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that one was, I guess you could actually that was more considered a B movie than anything because it was okay.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_00: The premise uh the plot was eh.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_00: They were I saw what they were trying to do with that one, um, but I don't think they could they were able to pull it off well um well enough.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_00: There is definitely plot holes in that one.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_00: Plot holes.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um so but yeah, it it's definitely one of one one of the genres, well not genres, but one of the aspects of horror is you know the transformation, you know, because even with some of the alien uh horror movies, there's some sort of transformation.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_00: The alien organism affects somebody and then it transforms it birth it and gross.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, everybody.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_01: But I do like the alien stuff.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_01: Aliens was good.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_01: It gives you kind of on the edge of your seat.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, that's sci-fi horror is right.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because yeah, uh Christine actually likes that one.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_00: She actually likes two is actually was better than one because one came out in '77, '78.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, the the the the the um the special effects kind of progress.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_01: They get a whole lot better, yeah.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, for sure.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it was um so those first two aliens were good.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um after that, not so much.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_00: But I guess from your um cultural standpoint, what type of movies Stephanie does uh similar to anything similar you guys uh relate to in terms of like aliens or are you all mostly the folklore?
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh there's a lot of folklore ones that I'm kind of just familiar about.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's one about the wolf, it's called La Loba.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_01: She's uh she's a wolf that like lives in a cave and then she like changes and sings these songs and uh like I don't know, she's just she's scary from what I know.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, she she uh she turns into a wolf.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_00: But does um did they actually make a movie or out of her?
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um I don't remember if they did or not.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'd be curious to see if they actually did um make some sort of movie or about her or I know there's a book, but I don't think there's a movie.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_00: Okay So what aspects of culture do have you what movies have you seen that you are are fully aware of?
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_00: Because I know there's more lately been a lot more um like Spanish versions of uh movies.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't gotten to watch a lot of them.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_01: I did um I did see one a long time ago.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um I actually had to look it up because I couldn't remember what it was called.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um but it's called The Untamed.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: And that's more of like a sci-fi movie because it's like um it's one of those where there's like this alien creature um seduces its itself there's like a uh like a family and then it seduces the girl and and one of the things that it does is it it causes you like intense pleasure.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_01: And then it like yeah, so it causes what yeah, it causes it causes intense pleasure, but it also will will kill.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_01: And so like um it I it's the the people that it's seducing, it will actually have them go and find others to bring back to I think we understand.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of crazy.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_00: Multi-level marketing at your at the best right there.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_04: It had my attention for a second.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, I think there's a there is a version of that that's either out now or will be.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_04: There's a version of the out now?
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_00: I think I can't remember because it when you uh Stefan was explaining it, it sounded like a movie that I either saw uh a trailer for, and I was like, that kind of stupid, but now I could probably uh realize that is probably where they get the premise of that this particular movie, but I can't remember the name of it for the life of me.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's weird.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_00: More than likely it might be a Shutter version.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Shutter?
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_01: There's a that's uh like that's like a website you can see all this crazy Yes, Shutter TV.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_00: You can go either do their um they have their own quote unquote service, and so I actually have it.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_00: I have Shudder.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I haven't had a chance to see a lot of the movies that are there, but they're definitely if you like um uh Joe Bob Briggs from the old back in the day.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um a lot of hit he's on there now.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um a lot of uh documentaries, definitely a lot, they've done a lot of they produced their own lot of their own movies.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of the um Spanish uh directors all come from from their own from like their own countries.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's not a lot of from what I've found or seen a lot of Spanish directors from America that produce these types of movies.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's a lot of more from outside and they'll come here maybe to to make the movies, or they'll add uh American uh actors, but not a lot of from from America that do it.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_00: Because yeah, because I know a lot of the Italian horrors, um most of the time they're dubbed.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um because a good one is that is um uh Demon and Demons are two pretty good horror movies that are Italian.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um and they're definitely dubbed.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes it's funny that when you listen to the when you're dub listen to the dub ones.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um you can tell that they um it's not all the same.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not all definitely.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's it does it hits different, but then just watching their actions versus when they the dub language is like okay, and and you sort of chuckle to yourself, but it's like, okay, I get what they were doing, and um it it works.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_00: So you kind of let it go.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um but it but yeah, they do a lot, and then as uh like I said, Japan would they consider Jar.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um that's where you get like a lot of the um what is the one with the little kid?
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_00: The grid.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, that one.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that one that one was re- was Americanized later um because uh but Americans wouldn't necessarily appreciate the original version, so they made the uh um another one with uh Michelle Geller.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_00: And so that one became no was pretty good.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_00: But they used here's the real thing on that one is they used the original production team, like the director, producer to produce the American one, so you still get the same feel.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's cool, which was cool, but no, but more uh American for you know the American audience to to appreciate.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_04: That's crazy.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_04: So, Ray, I have to know.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, sir, what is in that jar over there?
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_04: Like you're toting it around.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_04: My giant jar of peanut butter.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_04: What is in there?
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_04: I did see that.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh, are you exposing us?
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_04: You're opening the jar, no!
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_02: The germs are coming out of the COVID.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_04: Is there a fart in there?
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_02: What is in that my it's my petrified bat that I talked about on the previous episode.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_04: It's gonna come alive, no.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_02: I talked about it on a previous episode.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there it is.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yuck! He's petrified.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's petrified.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_04: He was scared to death passing it around the studio.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not doing that.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_02: It was it can't got caught in a building and it just died, and somebody found it and I gave it to me.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_04: It was at a church he was in.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna say, what made you want to remember?
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_02: Because I was a teacher and I thought it'd be great for school.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm a you don't want to get any closer.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you're a germophobe, aren't you?
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_04: I'm a germophobe, and uh if three out of four people die, I'll know what.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_04: And I'll be the study.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_02: If I turn him over, you could you know, he's really soft, but I wouldn't pet it if I were you.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_02: I I petted him, but I don't I wouldn't do this.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_04: I wouldn't um no.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yuck, I'm gonna put him in a glass maker and never ever opened that thing.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't think that of you, Ray.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I knew you weren't into the scary movies, but you're into the scary pets.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_04: Isn't that great?
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_04: I'd have to know is that bat's name Skippy?
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_04: He doesn't have a name.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_02: It says Skippy right there on the bucket.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_02: He doesn't have a name, but um uh not too many people would have a little petrified bat in their house, and I have one.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_01: Ray has a pet bat.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_02: He's a horner.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_01: He is pet.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_02: I I got a couple fun things here.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um I wrote some limericks ahead way ahead of time.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_02: Oh boy.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_00: Are they scary limericks?
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_02: No, they're not.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_02: They're cute.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_00: I heard about these limericks.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I got one for you, too.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_02: That's coming later, but I got one for you.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_02: So I wrote a limerick about a pumpkin.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_04: Fall season.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_04: Let's hear it.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_02: There once was a bright orange pumpkin who was known as a country bumpkin.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_02: He was backward and slow, and he had no glow, so he just stood there and took all his lumpkin.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_02: You're funny.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_02: I wrote about a witch, too.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_02: There once was a scary old witch who flew her broom in a ditch.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_02: Her cat was just fine.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_02: He walked off to dine while the witch doctor gave her a stitch.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_02: That was pretty deep, huh?
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_01: That got deep.
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_01: It got ditched.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_01: I have one for you, Ray.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_01: What do you call a witch that lives at the beach?
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh, I know this.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_02: A witch that lives at the beach.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_02: I pulled this on your mom.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I really don't know.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_02: I pulled this on your mouth.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_02: What a surprise I made it out of Mexico.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-oh.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-oh.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_03: You're in trouble.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_03: Her mom was standing in the sand.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_03: And I asked her this.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_03: So, anyways.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_01: Sandwich.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_04: Her mom was standing in the sand.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_04: I said, I don't know what you look like.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_04: And she said, What?
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_04: I said, a sandwich.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, you're in trouble?
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_03: Oh man, my mother-in-law loves me.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_03: That's a joyful.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_02: That is so.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_03: My mother-in-law loves me so much.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she does.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_03: She cuts me up.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_03: I cut her up.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's such a dad joke right there.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_00: Sandwich.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_01: I have another one.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_01: So you know how um I do phlebotomy.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_04: For those who don't know.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_04: Some people don't know what that means.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_04: That means you draw people's blood.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_01: I do.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_01: I take her blood.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like a vampire.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_04: That's nasty.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_01: That is what I do.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I often get called vampire.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_01: Although I prefer mosquito.
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I call her my mosquito.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_04: Oh.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_01: So when they bring that up, I tell them my vampire joke.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_01: Do you want to hear my vampire joke?
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'd like to hear this one.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_01: What is a vampire's favorite fruit?
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_02: Vampire's favorite fruit.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_02: I have no idea.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_02: Blood orange.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone says blood orange.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's a nectarine.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_02: Bites him on the neck.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_00: Where's the gong when you need one?
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_02: No, that was a good that was a good joke.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_02: I like that one.
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_02: I heard it.
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_02: You want to hear a true ghost story?
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, this sounds cool and fitting.
• 1:03:34
  SPEAKER_02: You know, for some reason, as as Jacer said in the intro, I have a story for every occasion.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_02: I guess it's because I'm uh 250 years old and I've lived forever and I've and I've experienced so much.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_02: But like today, those two stories about the spiders and the clown were not planned.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_02: They just popped up because somebody mentioned something about it, and so I thought about my true story.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_04: So I thought it was just because you're a storyteller.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_02: No, these are true stories.
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_02: These are not these are not fake stories.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_02: I don't make these up on the spot.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_02: These are true stories.
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_02: So I have a true ghost story.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um it's kind of sad because it's it's it's a real person that I know.
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah, if they turn into a ghost, that means they died.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_02: They did, yeah, they died.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um Linda and I had a friend, he's the same age we were.
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_02: He passed away.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, at a young, at a at a fairly young age.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_02: And um one day, um Linda was at work in her little cubicle, and um she came home and she said, Larry came to see me today.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_02: No, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:50
  SPEAKER_02: She said he was there because they were really good friends when when uh for they knew each other from church and they were really good friends and they would talk.
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_02: And she said, Larry came to see me today.
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_02: And I said, Really?
• 1:05:01
  SPEAKER_02: And so we did the math, and he appeared to her just about the time that he passed away in the hospital.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_02: He came to see her.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_01: How did that show?
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
• 1:05:13
  SPEAKER_02: That's a true story.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_01: How did how did how did he come see her?
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_02: He she just knew he was there.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_02: She just saw she saw saw him and she felt his presence.
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_02: Now, bring that more up to date.
• 1:05:24
  SPEAKER_02: Last week.
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_02: Was it last week or earlier this week?
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe whatever, what yeah, maybe it was earlier this week.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_02: She said, Um I had a dream about Larry last night.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_02: And she she that's all it was.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_02: She just had a dream about him.
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_02: He was there.
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I said, Well, that's because his birthday is tomorrow.
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's kind of creepy.
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_02: His birthday's October 12th, and she had the the dream on the 11th.
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I so it was just it was like, whoa.
• 1:05:52
  SPEAKER_02: So that is a true ghost story that he has he has been close to us, and he's been closer to her than he was to me.
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was close.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_02: Close.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was.
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_02: So that was a that was a true story.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_00: Almost sounds like he didn't want to move on.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_02: And why is he haunting your wife?
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know why.
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_02: I have um some true crime.
• 1:06:15
  SPEAKER_02: Because I watched true crime on TV and I've got some I got some um Arizona true crime.
• 1:06:20
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, this hits close to home.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_01: True crime could be scary.
• 1:06:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, it is.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_02: It is.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_02: And um uh can I share these stories?
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_02: They might they might be a little lengthy, but I'll try and not make not be too bad.
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_02: We'll see if they make it on the case.
• 1:06:34
  SPEAKER_04: We haven't been canceled yet.
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_02: This one, this one is Phoenix 1931.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_02: So this is an old one.
• 1:06:41
  SPEAKER_02: In October 1931, this is about Winnie Ruth Judd, and those who live here a long time know about her and what she did.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_02: In October 1931, her friends Agnes and Hedvig were killed in a Phoenix bungalow.
• 1:06:59
  SPEAKER_02: What happened afterward transformed a local homicide into a national sensation.
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_02: So it made national news.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_02: Way back then, that's the 30s.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_02: It made national news.
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_02: No way.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 1:07:11
  SPEAKER_02: The women's remains were placed inside trunks and baggage that Judd had transported by train from Phoenix to Los Angeles.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_02: Railroad employees reportedly became suspicious because of an odor and fluids coming from the luggage, if you can imagine, Charles, as you would understand that.
• 1:07:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 1:07:31
  SPEAKER_02: When authorities attempted to inspect it, Judd disappeared.
• 1:07:34
  SPEAKER_02: The trunks were eventually opened and the horrifying contents were discovered.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_02: Decaying bodies.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_02: So she surrendered several days later in Los Angeles, convicted of murdering in 1932, and sentenced to death.
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_02: However, later she was declared mentally incompetent and transferred to the state hospital.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_02: But it became even stranger after that.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_02: She repeatedly escaped from the hospital, and during her final escape in 1962, she remained free for more than six years roaming around with an assumed identity.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my.
• 1:08:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_02: So um she died of natural causes in 1998 at age 93.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_02: That's sad.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_02: Now at one article that we had seen in an earlier story had the address where that was, and Linda and I went to see it.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's downtown someplace.
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's somewhere around I want to say Third Avenue, up north around Thomas or something.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_02: But anyway, uh we went and drove by the house.
• 1:08:38
  SPEAKER_02: It's still there where she lived.
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_02: No way.
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_02: Still there.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think you've ever encountered uh natural, real ghost stuff, supernatural stuff?
• 1:08:49
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh in real life.
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like this stuff.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_00: In real life.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's honestly I can't say one way or the other.
• 1:08:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um the world's full of mysteries.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um because there has been a few times when I would think there might be a ghost around in some places I've gone, and it's like, but I could easily explain it away.
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so but and other times I couldn't.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I don't know if someone's messing with me or it's just happenstance.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_00: I I can't say.
• 1:09:26
  SPEAKER_01: So paranormal activity doesn't do it for you.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_00: I have not I've seen paranormal activity a little bit, but um it hasn't freaked him out as much.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_00: No, not really, but there's actually a show called No, These H uh Woods Are Haunted that talks about real life uh stories of people that have had like some encounter with something supernatural.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh whether it's like Bigfoot demons, uh uh ghost zombies, whatever they've they've uh talked about, which I've I've watched.
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_00: There's only I think maybe two seasons of it.
• 1:10:07
  SPEAKER_00: And it's uh this is those are actually pretty good, uh pretty good.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_00: I w rewatch it a few different times because the story kind of reminds me of the village.
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_04: What's that on?
• 1:10:16
  SPEAKER_00: Is that on like YouTube or Netflix or it was on it was on uh Discovery, but now I think it's the uh HBO got a hold of it.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 1:10:27
  SPEAKER_00: So but yeah, it's it's actually pretty good because there's You gotta pay a premium for that.
• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well a little bit Hulu premium.
• 1:10:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, a little a little bit.
• 1:10:36
  SPEAKER_00: Then also there's um paranormal uh caught on uh video.
• 1:10:43
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, I've seen that show.
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was a good show.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that'd be just like with the rest of the experts, just up there watching, and like, is that strange?
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_00: Is that actually real?
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's it's it's it's fascinating to hear a lot of the explanations because it's they they go to to interview real life people of things that have happened, and then they like go into a certain room or different things like that.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_00: They just recount the story, and then if they if they actually call it on video, which some of it is caught on video, you can literally see like refrigerators, shadows, and there's just no clear explanation because no one's in the room or anything else.
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_00: No way they explain it away.
• 1:11:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's like okay.
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not moving the next day, but okay.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_01: So if it's plausible and it could happen, do you think that makes it more scary?
• 1:11:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yes, because you don't know because that you know that it's gonna happen, but you don't know what's gonna happen because it's like are they sending me a message?
• 1:11:48
  SPEAKER_00: Are they telling me to get out?
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_00: Warn me of some danger, what what's the deal?
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_00: Because you just don't know.
• 1:11:55
  SPEAKER_01: So that that can kind of tie in a little bit more into because I think paranormal activity uh borderlines like uh I don't want to say like demon, well it could borderline demon possession.
• 1:12:10
  SPEAKER_01: So like me with demon possession of the house or of the person or the space.
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_01: So what do you think about that?
• 1:12:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it it just depends, you know, on what you believe and what you don't necessarily believe, because a lot of people know they're no like with Ray story of his friend that comes visit pretty much uh on his birthday and things.
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_00: I've heard of those stories, you know.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh like a lot of my like cousins and stuff have stories about you know deceased relatives that have uh the day they died, you know, come they'd be like, hey, I was just talking to so and so, and then we just come to tell you that they just died, but it was like, no, how that's possible?
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_00: Because I was just talking to them.
• 1:13:02
  SPEAKER_00: So that's more of saying they come, you know, to say their farewells before they went moved on, you know, to the higher different plane of existence.
• 1:13:13
  SPEAKER_00: So it's just that kind of thing is out there, you know, and I th I everybody knows somebody that's had some sort of experience similar to that in some aspect, or they've had some dream about a relative just out of nowhere and then you know, found out that he died.
• 1:13:31
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it's definitely something that from uh someone that loves hor horror.
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's still frightening to know that there are things that I can't explain away easily that happens that gets you to think it's like, okay, clearly there's something going on.
• 1:13:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:13:56
  SPEAKER_00: Things are out there that you can't explain.
• 1:13:58
  SPEAKER_00: Science can't really explain it.
• 1:14:00
  SPEAKER_00: It can try, but it can't really well.
• 1:14:03
  SPEAKER_01: So these guys say that they they'd go and visit, they're gonna go and visit a haunted house at some point or a haunted space.
• 1:14:10
  SPEAKER_04: Ray Ray actually wants to stay the night in one of those haunted places.
• 1:14:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh goes to Jerome in a hotel.
• 1:14:16
  SPEAKER_04: Would you stay the night or would you just go and visit?
• 1:14:19
  SPEAKER_04: Because I don't think I would actually stay the night and get comfortable sleeping with them.
• 1:14:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm on the fence of this ghost hunting thing.
• 1:14:27
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, if you guys go decide to stay the night before you do, I recommend you watch 1408 and then you tell me if you're gonna go stay the night.
• 1:14:35
  SPEAKER_02: No more I'm not gonna watch a scary movie before I go.
• 1:14:39
  SPEAKER_01: I've seen that one.
• 1:14:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, no.
• 1:14:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's not that scary.
• 1:14:42
  SPEAKER_01: So this guy comes over goes over and he's he he goes and says, Okay, I'm supposed to um document this this this room.
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_01: There's something there's one of the hotel rooms, something always happens to us, somebody died, or something like that, and I'm gonna go investigate.
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_01: He's a reporter, I think.
• 1:14:58
  SPEAKER_01: And so he tells the manager, I'm gonna go.
• 1:15:01
  SPEAKER_01: The manager says, Don't spend too much time in this room.
• 1:15:06
  SPEAKER_01: And so he he says, Yeah, right.
• 1:15:08
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he has no, he's so skeptical, and then he goes up there, and it seems like the time does like not ever like it takes forever, and he's only been in that room for like five minutes, it seems like.
• 1:15:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh John uh John John Cusack, yeah.
• 1:15:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, yep, yeah.
• 1:15:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:15:28
  SPEAKER_01: I know, and I can never hear the carpenter song the same way.
• 1:15:31
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm trying to get to Charles' answer.
• 1:15:33
  SPEAKER_04: Would you stay the night or just visit or not even participate?
• 1:15:37
  SPEAKER_00: I but that's the thing.
• 1:15:41
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, is like You said you like to be scared.
• 1:15:44
  SPEAKER_00: The horror person in me was like, I would want to do the ghost hunt.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_00: Staying the night is more of do I really want to chance it?
• 1:15:52
  SPEAKER_00: Because I don't know for sure.
• 1:15:54
  SPEAKER_04: What if I don't wake up the same person?
• 1:15:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like so yeah, that's why I'm on the fence.
• 1:15:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, do I ghost hunt?
• 1:16:01
  SPEAKER_00: No, or not.
• 1:16:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 1:16:04
  SPEAKER_00: I think you that that would probably be a spur of the moment thing.
• 1:16:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:16:09
  SPEAKER_00: You know, um bus it depending on the situation I'm in.
• 1:16:12
  SPEAKER_04: It was like you want to be spontaneous, not think too much about just doing that.
• 1:16:15
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's uh that's how it has to be, is like just go for it.
• 1:16:19
  SPEAKER_00: If I'm there and I got nothing better to do, okay, let's do this thing.
• 1:16:23
  SPEAKER_04: Not be like Stephanie and study a movie beforehand and all this.
• 1:16:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'll still watch it.
• 1:16:28
  SPEAKER_01: I like to know what I'm getting into.
• 1:16:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:31
  SPEAKER_01: It gives me the excitement of of what to expect.
• 1:16:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, even though I don't know the whole thing.
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but yeah, go to go to Jerome.
• 1:16:37
  SPEAKER_00: Jerome, Arizona, right now.
• 1:16:39
  SPEAKER_01: They do a lot Jerome just sounds scary.
• 1:16:41
  SPEAKER_00: They they they cater to that?
• 1:16:43
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, because they got the haunted hamburger, which is a restaurant in it.
• 1:16:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's pretty good.
• 1:16:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_00: They uh it's that's actually a pretty decent restaurant.
• 1:16:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh their hotel is uh uh notoriously haunted, and they're they definitely have ghost tours and stuff around there.
• 1:17:02
  SPEAKER_00: Sounds good.
• 1:17:04
  SPEAKER_00: I would do ghost hunting, yeah.
• 1:17:06
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 1:17:06
  SPEAKER_04: So you, me and Charles, we're gonna take a mean Charles is going with us.
• 1:17:11
  SPEAKER_04: He's not in Charles trip.
• 1:17:13
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
• 1:17:13
  SPEAKER_04: He sounds like he knows.
• 1:17:15
  SPEAKER_00: I've gone to Jerome a few different times, but it's been during the daylight hours.
• 1:17:22
  SPEAKER_04: Don't go Charles.
• 1:17:24
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 1:17:25
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you like to be scared that much.
• 1:17:28
  SPEAKER_00: I still have self-preservation.
• 1:17:31
  SPEAKER_00: I see boundaries, I see boundaries.
• 1:17:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I know what not to mess with.
• 1:17:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, okay, you're getting a little too into your your area it's because it's too real.
• 1:17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Is it because it's too real?
• 1:17:44
  SPEAKER_04: Or he knows that it's real.
• 1:17:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think the uh possibility is too high that it's something about to happen, and I'd rather not be in that situation.
• 1:17:54
  SPEAKER_04: He didn't want to visit ground zero.
• 1:17:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'd rather not be there if the zombie apocalypse breaks out or be there.
• 1:18:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:18:04
  SPEAKER_00: I I need a I need a hit start.
• 1:18:07
  SPEAKER_01: See, this is why I can't watch I mean I've seen it, but I can't watch it again as World War Z.
• 1:18:13
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:18:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's what what?
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_01: World War Z.
• 1:18:15
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know the movie.
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's a movie with Brad Pitt.
• 1:18:17
  SPEAKER_01: I never heard.
• 1:18:18
  SPEAKER_01: The only reason I want to watch it is because it's got Brad Pitt, because I like Brad Pitt's movies.
• 1:18:21
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh.
• 1:18:23
  SPEAKER_04: You have a thing for white guys, don't you?
• 1:18:27
  SPEAKER_01: But the zombies are just they're they're they're like they're like extra.
• 1:18:31
  SPEAKER_01: They're like zombies on speed.
• 1:18:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:18:34
  SPEAKER_00: They're not the slow zombies.
• 1:18:35
  SPEAKER_01: No, and you can't outrun them, and they come by the millions, and it's just so overwhelming.
• 1:18:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's like well, the only good thing.
• 1:18:44
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it's a good thing or bad thing.
• 1:18:47
  SPEAKER_00: They if you got some sort of uh illness, they won't come near you.
• 1:18:53
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 1:18:53
  SPEAKER_00: That's the only thing to them.
• 1:18:55
  SPEAKER_00: The zombies?
• 1:18:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:56
  SPEAKER_04: I thought it was the wooden stakes.
• 1:18:58
  SPEAKER_00: Those are vampires.
• 1:19:00
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, same thing.
• 1:19:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so yeah, for whatever reason, they're they know instinctively that you have some illness and not to come near you.
• 1:19:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so if they bypass you, then you know something's wrong with you.
• 1:19:13
  SPEAKER_00: I guess in that standpoint, they're not gonna waste their time.
• 1:19:16
  SPEAKER_04: They go right around you.
• 1:19:18
  SPEAKER_00: They go right around you, right?
• 1:19:19
  SPEAKER_00: So I guess you can see the good side of it.
• 1:19:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, okay, I know something's wrong with me.
• 1:19:25
  SPEAKER_00: I need to go to a doctor, but bad thing is there's something wrong with so so that this movie just gives me anxiety because it's just like is that really called being ghosted?
• 1:19:35
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 1:19:36
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's ghosted by a zombie.
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 1:19:45
  SPEAKER_00: Zombie's stopping.
• 1:19:48
  SPEAKER_00: No, I guess, you know, in some aspects, that's another type of, I guess, you would say their own little boogeyman, you know, like Michael Myers and Jason, which I'm I'm still trying to figure out how time works when it comes to uh Jason and Michael Myers.
• 1:20:07
  SPEAKER_00: Because yes, they're boogeyman, but also you've sprinted so far ahead of them, and all of a sudden they just pop out of nowhere.
• 1:20:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:20:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's like what the this is the classic uh girl runs up the stairs type movie when you know she should be going down the stairs.
• 1:20:27
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh.
• 1:20:28
  SPEAKER_03: The stereotypical movie.
• 1:20:30
  SPEAKER_01: And he's walking super slow.
• 1:20:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 1:20:31
  SPEAKER_01: And they run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, and then they he walks around the corner and he's like right there.
• 1:20:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, what the heck, man?
• 1:20:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, did you just teleport all of a sudden?
• 1:20:43
  SPEAKER_00: Then and I'm just going in a slow motion.
• 1:20:45
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I wasting my time running?
• 1:20:49
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:20:49
  SPEAKER_00: Or making those bad, poor decisions.
• 1:20:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:20:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, let's not go to the running car.
• 1:20:56
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go do something stupid and barricade ourselves in a room that has no window.
• 1:21:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that isn't that the craziest thing.
• 1:21:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:21:05
  SPEAKER_00: No, not not to be funny, but that's the white person's thing.
• 1:21:08
  SPEAKER_04: Get get in the car and try and start it, but you can't seem to start the car until the zombie's right there at the door.
• 1:21:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, pretty much.
• 1:21:17
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that's what that's very true.
• 1:21:20
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's what I think that's what a lot of people like, even just with simple movies like that, the anticipation, you're watching them and you're like, please do this, please do this.
• 1:21:30
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like nothing happens, or they're not doing what you want them to.
• 1:21:34
  SPEAKER_01: And so that's kind of what that that stirs up that anxiety, that dread, that like that people like.
• 1:21:41
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, most definitely.
• 1:21:42
  SPEAKER_00: Because I know how many times I'm looking at the movie, I was like, Why are you being dumb?
• 1:21:48
  SPEAKER_00: What it's like, you the classic one is hear a sound.
• 1:21:53
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go investigate.
• 1:21:54
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 1:21:56
  SPEAKER_00: No, let's go out the opposite direction of that noise.
• 1:22:01
  SPEAKER_04: I heard a noise.
• 1:22:02
  SPEAKER_04: Where'd that come from?
• 1:22:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:22:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, it's too close to me.
• 1:22:05
  SPEAKER_00: Let me go elsewhere because I'm not about to die.
• 1:22:10
  SPEAKER_04: There's movement in the back arrow.
• 1:22:11
  SPEAKER_04: Let me go look at it.
• 1:22:12
  SPEAKER_01: See, I like I I like movies like I like the movies that are like that though, too.
• 1:22:18
  SPEAKER_01: I've I've seen a I've seen a lot of movies that are like um like the the saw or the have you ever seen the the cube?
• 1:22:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:22:29
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just like they dump people into this this mess and then they die for what whatever reason because you know they can't figure things out, or you know, something happens to them, and it's just like I can watch those two, but I really like the the jump scares or the psychological stuff.
• 1:22:45
  SPEAKER_04: So you guys talk a lot about movies.
• 1:22:47
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you guys covered some Christmas or non-Christmas movies like Die Hard.
• 1:22:52
  SPEAKER_04: Um, what would you consider?
• 1:22:54
  SPEAKER_04: Uh Charles specifically, what would you consider being like a a holiday Halloween movie that every single year you're either thinking about really or you you kind of really want to watch, or it's it's on your mind.
• 1:23:06
  SPEAKER_04: What every Halloween movie is usually.
• 1:23:10
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I'm sure there's probably a couple of things.
• 1:23:11
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean the season, like the season is the season.
• 1:23:13
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, every Halloween.
• 1:23:14
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, like every Christmas, somebody wants to watch Home Alone or Die Hard or whatever.
• 1:23:18
  SPEAKER_04: Like when Halloween happens, what movie do you watch?
• 1:23:20
  SPEAKER_04: What's your go-to?
• 1:23:22
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Return of Living There constantly.
• 1:23:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's my go-to.
• 1:23:26
  SPEAKER_00: I've got it on VHS, I've got it on Blu-ray, I got it on uh CD ROM.
• 1:23:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so for those for those who don't know about this movie, explain what what the premise is and w why you like it so much.
• 1:23:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's in a way it is sort of quote unquote horror comedy.
• 1:23:46
  SPEAKER_00: But it's back in the it's set in the 80s, probably 85.
• 1:23:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um essentially it's which unfortunately you'd almost say it's based on the true story.
• 1:24:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um this dude works at a supply warehouse.
• 1:24:06
  SPEAKER_00: He's learning um it's around July 4th.
• 1:24:14
  SPEAKER_00: They're doing their essentially their job as uh new employee.
• 1:24:18
  SPEAKER_00: He's learning from the old the senior employee, they're the only two left in the warehouse, and then they get into a conversation about um Night of the Living Dead.
• 1:24:32
  SPEAKER_00: And the old senior says that's based on a true story, and it was changed because the government was going to sue if they told the uh production the true story uh and it was about chemicals that brought essentially brought quote unquote these bodies back to life.
• 1:24:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but instead of no, of course, no, the army not keeping up with all their um these canisters, two of them got sent to this medical supply warehouse, been sitting in their, I guess, basement for uh a little while.
• 1:25:14
  SPEAKER_00: And so the senior took uh, I guess you want to say the junior guy that was learning took him down there.
• 1:25:22
  SPEAKER_00: Took him down there to see to see it, and so they messed around with the canister, got hit in the face with the gas, the gas floats up through the air into the warehouse, but they because the supply were it's a medical supply warehouse, they had a dead body in there and so reanimated that dead body.
• 1:25:43
  SPEAKER_01: That's what they mean when they say they come back to life.
• 1:25:46
  SPEAKER_01: They reanimate.
• 1:25:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yep, reanimated, and of course, they caught one end up calling their boss, who of course gave them the business for going down and messing with those that canister, and they had to figure out what to do with this animated body, and all mayhem ensues.
• 1:26:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, all the actually did because they cut the body up, went up going to a mortuary to get the body cremated, the cremated cremations, uh, the smoke went up into the air.
• 1:26:20
  SPEAKER_00: Chemicals that did a chemical reaction up and created a storm.
• 1:26:26
  SPEAKER_00: And they were right next to a cemetery.
• 1:26:28
  SPEAKER_00: Oh that was.
• 1:26:32
  SPEAKER_00: And all the while you had these punk kids playing around in the cemetery that happened to be the friends of the one that was uh the new trainee in the medical warehouse.
• 1:26:41
  SPEAKER_00: And so they're in Sue being chased by all these uh reanimated zombies, yeah.
• 1:26:48
  SPEAKER_00: Reanimated corpses or zombies, whichever.
• 1:26:51
  SPEAKER_00: And so they're uh and then just spreads out.
• 1:26:55
  SPEAKER_00: Eventually they decide to call the army, which in turn their contingency was just nuclear bomb the place.
• 1:27:04
  SPEAKER_00: And so that was how they quote unquote destroyed the zombies, which in turn kills everybody, kills everybody, but it goes back up again in the all that the ash and smoke goes back in the the uh atmosphere and rains again on another part, and so you hear in the background the president is going to come visit the area, though, because it's a tragedy, it's like we would hate for anything to happen while the president is there, and you saw this rain on the what's the name of the movie?
• 1:27:38
  SPEAKER_01: Night of the Living Dead.
• 1:27:39
  SPEAKER_00: No, Return of the Lided.
• 1:27:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Return of the Living Dead, yes.
• 1:27:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I've never seen that.
• 1:27:42
  SPEAKER_02: I'll have to watch that one.
• 1:27:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, yep, yeah.
• 1:27:44
  SPEAKER_02: I think I could watch that one.
• 1:27:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's I think you could watch that one, Ray.
• 1:27:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because that one actually isn't b really bloody at all.
• 1:27:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's just the thought of it.
• 1:27:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:27:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's just the thought of it.
• 1:27:55
  SPEAKER_04: What about you, Stephanie?
• 1:27:56
  SPEAKER_04: What's your Halloween go to movie?
• 1:27:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh It depends on how scary you want to go.
• 1:28:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um I as I've gotten older, it's been a little bit more challenging for me to to watch the scary movies.
• 1:28:14
  SPEAKER_01: They got littles, you know.
• 1:28:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I I've I've had recurring dreams of certain things, so I have to be careful.
• 1:28:24
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, so you probably see uh Charlie Brown, the uh Great Pumpkin with the Great Pumpkin, that's where I go.
• 1:28:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's Chris.
• 1:28:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, that's your scene's favorite, one of her favorite movies.
• 1:28:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I got that on uh taping so I we pull it out and watch it at least once.
• 1:28:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because you can't see it unless it's on Apple TV.
• 1:28:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 1:28:42
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, he has it on tape.
• 1:28:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:28:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I got it on tape.
• 1:28:47
  SPEAKER_01: But I like I like the classics.
• 1:28:49
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm probably I'll probably go to um if I'm gonna watch a real scary movie, I'm probably gonna do like Amityville.
• 1:28:57
  SPEAKER_00: Ooh, okay.
• 1:28:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's like a really good go-to scary movie.
• 1:29:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a you know, haunted haunted house.
• 1:29:05
  SPEAKER_01: Family lives in the haunted house.
• 1:29:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um that's more, yeah.
• 1:29:15
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Amityville.
• 1:29:17
  SPEAKER_00: Down down in the cemetery.
• 1:29:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, not a cemetery, but like um Mausoleum or um I forget what they call it.
• 1:29:25
  SPEAKER_01: But you know what I mean.
• 1:29:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:29:27
  SPEAKER_01: Where like the the the ground is like I don't know.
• 1:29:30
  SPEAKER_01: Sacred ground.
• 1:29:31
  SPEAKER_01: Sacred ground, yeah.
• 1:29:34
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah.
• 1:29:34
  SPEAKER_00: That was more poltergeist, though.
• 1:29:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like poltergeists too, though.
• 1:29:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's a good one.
• 1:29:39
  SPEAKER_01: I I can do the classics.
• 1:29:41
  SPEAKER_01: The classics I can do.
• 1:29:43
  SPEAKER_04: What about you, Ray?
• 1:29:44
  SPEAKER_04: What's a Halloween movie that you or a scary movie that you could obtain that you're like, eh, I could dig this one.
• 1:29:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um Well, I I've really probably only seen two.
• 1:29:54
  SPEAKER_02: I've seen Poltergeist and I've seen Halloween, but I like Poltergeist better because it's scarier.
• 1:29:59
  SPEAKER_02: But I I don't watch, I've only seen it like twice.
• 1:30:03
  SPEAKER_02: But um, I'm with Stephanie.
• 1:30:05
  SPEAKER_02: I have to watch the Charlie Brown movie.
• 1:30:08
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
• 1:30:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, we watch that every year.
• 1:30:12
  SPEAKER_04: For me, if I'm going scary like that, I'm scary funny, so I'd probably go and I haven't watched all the series.
• 1:30:18
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like a 90s kid, so I probably watch like the first one or two of them, but scary movie.
• 1:30:26
  SPEAKER_02: Scary movie.
• 1:30:27
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the scary movie.
• 1:30:28
  SPEAKER_04: It's called scary movie.
• 1:30:29
  SPEAKER_04: It's like an epic comedy, yeah.
• 1:30:32
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, I don't know that it's not really a scary movie.
• 1:30:34
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know that it has themes and elements of scary, like Jason's mask and all that.
• 1:30:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's satirical.
• 1:30:41
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's why.
• 1:30:42
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
• 1:30:43
  SPEAKER_02: I mean that's funny.
• 1:30:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like a like return dead last summer.
• 1:30:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like Return of the Living Dead.
• 1:30:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but don't you but don't you have to have seen all the movies to understand what they're talking about?
• 1:30:53
  SPEAKER_02: No, you just start with first.
• 1:30:54
  SPEAKER_04: It's called Scream.
• 1:30:55
  SPEAKER_04: Just start with that.
• 1:30:56
  SPEAKER_04: It's funny.
• 1:30:57
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 1:30:58
  SPEAKER_01: No, Scream was not funny.
• 1:31:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was.
• 1:31:01
  SPEAKER_01: That's a slasher movie.
• 1:31:03
  SPEAKER_01: I know what you did last summer.
• 1:31:04
  SPEAKER_01: No, that's slasher too.
• 1:31:06
  SPEAKER_01: That's uh what uh what's your favorite scary movie?
• 1:31:09
  SPEAKER_04: It's called Scary Movie, right?
• 1:31:10
  SPEAKER_01: Scary movie, yes.
• 1:31:11
  SPEAKER_01: But Scream is wasn't it similar?
• 1:31:15
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they took they took the they took the costume guy from Scream and made fun of it.
• 1:31:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Ghostface.
• 1:31:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Ghostface.
• 1:31:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's what that's what his name is.
• 1:31:27
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 1:31:28
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 1:31:28
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, that would be mine.
• 1:31:30
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'll have to look that one up.
• 1:31:32
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, they've they've made how many have they made of that one?
• 1:31:36
  SPEAKER_04: It's like Fast and Furious.
• 1:31:37
  SPEAKER_04: They made too many.
• 1:31:38
  SPEAKER_04: They made like 32 franchises after it.
• 1:31:40
  SPEAKER_01: The James Wan movie I do like.
• 1:31:44
  SPEAKER_04: Stupid.
• 1:31:45
  SPEAKER_04: My wife loves Fast and Furious.
• 1:31:47
  SPEAKER_04: I make fun of her.
• 1:31:47
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, they only there's only one Fast and Furious.
• 1:31:50
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know what you're talking about.
• 1:31:50
  SPEAKER_04: She's like, no, there's like 32 of them.
• 1:31:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but there's only one movie.
• 1:31:54
  SPEAKER_04: Like all those other ones are copies.
• 1:31:57
  SPEAKER_01: The best.
• 1:31:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, well, if there's a best, then you have to acknowledge that there's a last.
• 1:32:02
  SPEAKER_04: They didn't make five Bambi's, they only made one Bambi.
• 1:32:05
  SPEAKER_04: They only made one old yeller.
• 1:32:06
  SPEAKER_04: Why?
• 1:32:07
  SPEAKER_00: Those are classics.
• 1:32:08
  SPEAKER_00: Uh speaking of Bambi, there's actually, I'm not sure if you started to see any of the Pooh universe yet.
• 1:32:15
  SPEAKER_00: The what?
• 1:32:16
  SPEAKER_00: The uh Poohiverse.
• 1:32:18
  SPEAKER_00: Pooniverse?
• 1:32:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:32:19
  SPEAKER_00: Pooniverse.
• 1:32:20
  SPEAKER_00: Literally, they're about Pooh.
• 1:32:21
  SPEAKER_00: So what are you talking about?
• 1:32:22
  SPEAKER_00: Because a lot of the uh like Pooh, um Peter Pan, Bambi, Mickey Mouse have become Puck and Gomain now.
• 1:32:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh so they've turned them into horror movies.
• 1:32:34
  SPEAKER_00: Ah yeah.
• 1:32:35
  SPEAKER_00: And so now there has their own universe.
• 1:32:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's called Pooh Universe.
• 1:32:39
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I hadn't heard of that.
• 1:32:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you got uh Pooh, uh Winnie the Pooh, Pooh, Blood and Honey and Blood.
• 1:32:47
  SPEAKER_00: Blood and Honey.
• 1:32:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh they got Bambi.
• 1:32:51
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't seen The Reckoning.
• 1:32:52
  SPEAKER_00: The Reckoning.
• 1:32:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I haven't seen Pinocchio Unstrung.
• 1:32:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I haven't seen that one yet.
• 1:32:56
  SPEAKER_00: That one's recent.
• 1:32:57
  SPEAKER_01: Peter Pan's Neverland Nightmare.
• 1:32:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that one was okay.
• 1:33:01
  SPEAKER_00: It was a little strange.
• 1:33:03
  SPEAKER_01: They just put a dark twist in all these kid movies.
• 1:33:06
  SPEAKER_04: Very dark.
• 1:33:07
  SPEAKER_04: Is that almost like the Jim Henson's Muppet movie that he twisted and it was like a really adult movie?
• 1:33:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh no, this is worse.
• 1:33:14
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 1:33:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 1:33:16
  SPEAKER_00: It is very worse.
• 1:33:17
  SPEAKER_00: It is very worse.
• 1:33:18
  SPEAKER_00: You do not want to met.
• 1:33:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's because for Pooh is literally is a mutated child.
• 1:33:28
  SPEAKER_00: That's what Pooh is.
• 1:33:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's a doctor that uh kidnapped a twin, essentially a twin uh of Christopher Robbins and turned them into uh bear hybrid, along with like vultures and stuff like that.
• 1:33:45
  SPEAKER_00: And so because the first two for Pooh was it was Pooh and Piglet.
• 1:33:52
  SPEAKER_00: And then then the uh the second Pooh was they introduced um Tigger and Owl.
• 1:34:01
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 1:34:01
  SPEAKER_00: And so yeah, it was crazy.
• 1:34:04
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 1:34:06
  SPEAKER_04: No way! She's showing me a picture of it.
• 1:34:09
  SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
• 1:34:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, yep.
• 1:34:11
  SPEAKER_00: Spooky.
• 1:34:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's on yeah, it's on P it's on uh no way I could say that.
• 1:34:17
  SPEAKER_00: Peacock.
• 1:34:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it's it's definitely uh I think it's also Netflix too, but yeah, that's that's a whole making it a whole universe.
• 1:34:26
  SPEAKER_01: That's a different type of genre that I'm I'm okay with.
• 1:34:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:34:30
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it it it's different than that that leans on the Five Nights of Freddy's kind of thing.
• 1:34:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I haven't seen two yet.
• 1:34:37
  SPEAKER_00: I need to see the second one, which is on Netflix.
• 1:34:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, that that one Christine won't is so mad about that they messed up with like that.
• 1:34:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 1:34:47
  SPEAKER_01: She is don't mess with the with the with Don't mess with the childhood stuff.
• 1:34:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 1:34:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's like the dark uh the dark fairy tales.
• 1:34:56
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:34:57
  SPEAKER_01: You know?
• 1:35:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, it's gotta always like gotta twist some things, you know, because just to keep it interesting.
• 1:35:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know, because that's one thing about hard too is that uh ideas aren't uh being original anymore.
• 1:35:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's always a remake.
• 1:35:14
  SPEAKER_00: True.
• 1:35:14
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like why do you keep remaking it?
• 1:35:17
  SPEAKER_00: Where's the originality?
• 1:35:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I like Conjuring was it was original.
• 1:35:21
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't a remake, it was original.
• 1:35:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know, uh that's what we wearing out has l again, all these folk tales, especially the ones that you know from your culture, as well as no, America has this limited folklore.
• 1:35:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but definitely Japan, Italy, Mexico rich in all sorts of of uh cultural horror.
• 1:35:53
  SPEAKER_00: You know, granted a lot of it's written down verbal, but they can easily translate into like movies or a book or something similar or TV series.
• 1:36:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's just a matter of someone actually doing it in um studio wanting to provide the money to get it produced.
• 1:36:15
  SPEAKER_00: But that's the thing, you know, trying to convince some studio head that's a moron that this is a good movie that someone would be interested in instead of oh, let's remake this uh uh guaranteed moneymaker.
• 1:36:28
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's not a guaranteed moneymaker because if it's done bad.
• 1:36:31
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, there's some that are pretty good.
• 1:36:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like I the remake that I like is uh have you seen The Fly?
• 1:36:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean Gold Bloom.
• 1:36:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:36:40
  SPEAKER_01: That was a remake.
• 1:36:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, true.
• 1:36:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I thought that was pretty good.
• 1:36:43
  SPEAKER_01: They did a good job.
• 1:36:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was a decent definite, but that has a lot to do with actors.
• 1:36:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, still kind of grosses me out a little bit, but yeah.
• 1:36:51
  SPEAKER_04: So you guys are talking about movies all the time.
• 1:36:53
  SPEAKER_04: Me and my wife have a debate.
• 1:36:54
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 1:36:55
  SPEAKER_04: She she loves movies more than me, but we both enjoy movies.
• 1:36:59
  SPEAKER_04: When she goes to see a movie, she has to do something before she sees the movie.
• 1:37:04
  SPEAKER_04: I don't mind either way.
• 1:37:07
  SPEAKER_04: For instance, what she likes to do is no matter the movie, if we're going to see The Lion King, which she saw 10,000 times, she wants to watch the trailer first.
• 1:37:17
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:37:18
  SPEAKER_04: Me, I don't necessarily have to have the trailer.
• 1:37:21
  SPEAKER_04: I can jump into the movie, be 100% completely surprised, and then either enjoy it or not enjoy it.
• 1:37:28
  SPEAKER_04: What do you prefer?
• 1:37:29
  SPEAKER_04: Do you have to have the trailer or does it matter?
• 1:37:33
  SPEAKER_00: It depends on the movie.
• 1:37:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if it's uh a title that um that seemed like it might be interesting, but I'm not sure, I'll watch the trailer just to see if it's oh yeah, I need to go see this because it's interesting.
• 1:37:50
  SPEAKER_00: If it's something that I'll be fine, I'll just go, then cool.
• 1:37:57
  SPEAKER_00: Because unfortunately, with trailers, sometimes that's the best part, all the best parts in the trailer.
• 1:38:04
  SPEAKER_00: You're right, though.
• 1:38:05
  SPEAKER_00: And not in the movies, like, why didn't that come and get off the editing for and I could get into the movie instead of in the trailer?
• 1:38:13
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you're right.
• 1:38:14
  SPEAKER_04: I could see that.
• 1:38:14
  SPEAKER_04: But I mean, I would enjoy that after the movie.
• 1:38:17
  SPEAKER_04: Where I mean, I don't know.
• 1:38:19
  SPEAKER_04: I feel like if I watch the trailer, like you just said, and the trailer's better than the movie, I'm gonna I'm gonna be really let down.
• 1:38:26
  SPEAKER_04: Like, but if I saw the movie first and then saw the trailer, I'd be like, oh man, that you know, be a different uh pres presentation.
• 1:38:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's fair.
• 1:38:34
  SPEAKER_00: That's fair.
• 1:38:35
  SPEAKER_01: I think he's just worried that he's gonna get all the good stuff in the trailer and then not before.
• 1:38:41
  SPEAKER_01: They do that sometimes.
• 1:38:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:38:44
  SPEAKER_00: Really they do, which is kind of irritating.
• 1:38:46
  SPEAKER_04: He's like, oh yeah, and the trailers are like three minutes long sometimes.
• 1:38:51
  SPEAKER_04: Like, dude, leave some for the movie.
• 1:38:52
  SPEAKER_04: Like you're giving away all the goods.
• 1:38:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
• 1:38:56
  SPEAKER_00: And not always the get stuff either in a movie is like, why didn't that go in the go into the trailer on the floor, kitchen room floor?
• 1:39:04
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
• 1:39:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, it it just depends.
• 1:39:11
  SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, I definitely watch a lot of trail look out specific for specific trailers.
• 1:39:17
  SPEAKER_00: But also I get a good feel if I go to uh YouTube.
• 1:39:21
  SPEAKER_00: They there's sometimes a lot of uh not necessarily trailers, but reviews from uh people that have did like snippets of some movies, and you get an idea of like, okay, this might be actually something I want to see, let me go because no, granted, they could be hyping it up for no reason or saying or saying uh it's not worth it.
• 1:39:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, which is good sometimes because some movies that seem like they're good to go see, but it's like, do I wouldn't have paid that 20 bucks to get in there to see it?
• 1:39:53
  SPEAKER_00: And it turns out to be a crap movie, and I can just wait long enough for this to come out on the one of the mini streaming services and just watch it there for essentially somewhere.
• 1:40:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:40:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the movie reviewers do shine a different light because it's it's a lot different than the Hollywood producer trailer cuts that they give us to make us want to see the movie.
• 1:40:15
  SPEAKER_04: When you go and you see the, you know, I'm gonna age myself, but the Cisco and EBirds or whatever, and they gave their you know their little critiques, their two thumbs up and they gave their version and their little trailers.
• 1:40:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that I think that's so much more informational because they they don't give away the whole movie, they know how to present it better.
• 1:40:32
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 1:40:33
  SPEAKER_04: And I think the producers are just trying to sell the movie where they actually sell the whole thing in the in the process in the trailer.
• 1:40:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:40:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, really true enough, very true.
• 1:40:42
  SPEAKER_04: What about you, Ray?
• 1:40:43
  SPEAKER_04: You ready for Hollywood?
• 1:40:44
  SPEAKER_04: You got some Hollywood, uh you got some Halloween movies that you what are you what are you doing over at your house for Halloween this time of season?
• 1:40:52
  SPEAKER_04: Well, he's already dressed to impress.
• 1:40:54
  SPEAKER_04: I know.
• 1:40:55
  SPEAKER_04: Ray is in costume, Charles is in costume.
• 1:40:57
  SPEAKER_04: I'm I'm a little underdressed, I guess.
• 1:41:00
  SPEAKER_01: What are you talking about?
• 1:41:01
  SPEAKER_01: We're in costume, we're married.
• 1:41:05
  SPEAKER_04: We're dressed as a married, uh old married couple.
• 1:41:08
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I I will tell you, in the olden days, this was early days when we lived in our house.
• 1:41:14
  SPEAKER_04: Isn't all your days older?
• 1:41:16
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 1:41:16
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, sorry.
• 1:41:17
  SPEAKER_02: No, some are older than others.
• 1:41:19
  SPEAKER_02: My bad.
• 1:41:20
  SPEAKER_02: Olden, golden six.
• 1:41:21
  SPEAKER_02: I would set up a a Halloween display in my garage, and that way I could close the door and work on it when I had time, and then when it Halloween night, I opened the door, and there it was.
• 1:41:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I figured out ways to animate stuff.
• 1:41:34
  SPEAKER_02: I had uh I had a coffin in there and I had a Really?
• 1:41:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I had uh things that would move and yeah, it it was it was interesting, and people stood around and it was quite an attraction in the neighborhood, and and uh I did that for several years, but then I got away from it.
• 1:41:54
  SPEAKER_02: It was just too much work.
• 1:41:55
  SPEAKER_04: Sounds like Charles, he had quite the production at his house too.
• 1:41:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, then became caregiver of a 91-year-old, and that sort of had to back that up a little bit.
• 1:42:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, now he's so care caregiving, he doesn't want to.
• 1:42:06
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
• 1:42:07
  SPEAKER_01: So for some people, why why do we why do we decorate?
• 1:42:10
  SPEAKER_01: What's the where's the where does that come from?
• 1:42:13
  SPEAKER_00: Well, oh my god, that's that question.
• 1:42:17
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I don't know.
• 1:42:19
  SPEAKER_00: Honestly, I I'm sure it probably has to do with the the origin of Halloween more than anything.
• 1:42:28
  SPEAKER_01: So it was considered a celebration, right?
• 1:42:30
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:42:31
  SPEAKER_00: The Sam Hain.
• 1:42:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it was like of the fall coming, you know, for preparation of for fall.
• 1:42:39
  SPEAKER_01: And then yeah, it was just it was considered one of those things that for this night that they some people believe that all these spirits come back, and so we are supposed to dress to impress the spirits, and that's why people dress up.
• 1:42:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was called All Hollows Eve.
• 1:42:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, correct.
• 1:42:56
  SPEAKER_02: That's what it was originally called.
• 1:42:57
  SPEAKER_02: They put it together and it comes out to be Halloween.
• 1:43:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:43:01
  SPEAKER_04: That's how we got a Halloweeny.
• 1:43:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we got a Halloween.
• 1:43:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:43:06
  SPEAKER_00: Commercialization ruins it all.
• 1:43:10
  SPEAKER_00: So, but yeah.
• 1:43:11
  SPEAKER_00: No, it yeah, because this actually uh nowadays this has become almost as big as Christmas.
• 1:43:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:43:19
  SPEAKER_04: And uh for some people for sure.
• 1:43:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you go through the neighborhoods and oh my gosh, it their yards are decked out.
• 1:43:25
  SPEAKER_04: We were just talking about that.
• 1:43:26
  SPEAKER_04: They got the 18-foot skeletons and uh, you know, all these things that pop out of nowhere at night.
• 1:43:32
  SPEAKER_04: And that's crazy though.
• 1:43:34
  SPEAKER_04: Ray, you surprise people like you wouldn't put out the decorations until Halloween night.
• 1:43:38
  SPEAKER_04: No, because that's interesting.
• 1:43:40
  SPEAKER_04: That's a different concept.
• 1:43:41
  SPEAKER_02: I would just have it in my garage because it wasn't safe for to put stuff out because uh people steal things.
• 1:43:48
  SPEAKER_00: So oh, you're in a bad neighborhood.
• 1:43:51
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:43:52
  SPEAKER_04: He on the South South side.
• 1:43:55
  SPEAKER_04: Hey, hey.
• 1:44:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh no.
• 1:44:01
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it it's yeah, because I have neighbors that uh have gone way out.
• 1:44:08
  SPEAKER_00: Because at first I thought maybe I was no being over the top with mine, and then I saw these other two neighbors.
• 1:44:14
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I can compete with those two.
• 1:44:16
  SPEAKER_00: This is ridiculous.
• 1:44:17
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have the storage or anything else to put in the whole zone.
• 1:44:20
  SPEAKER_00: This stuff that they have.
• 1:44:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's like this if you want to contribute to my fund of uh uh storage shit, they yeah.
• 1:44:28
  SPEAKER_04: Some people look like they bought the whole section from Costco out.
• 1:44:31
  SPEAKER_04: Like they got every decoration in there, then you turn the corner, and the other neighbor has the same thing.
• 1:44:37
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, there's no originality.
• 1:44:38
  SPEAKER_04: You guys shopped at the same dang store.
• 1:44:41
  SPEAKER_00: Looks like the same house on a different street.
• 1:44:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 1:44:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, yep.
• 1:44:45
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I definitely have uh, but I do have one thing that most of them don't is uh on my garage door, I found this place last last year.
• 1:44:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, where literally on my garage is sort of uh a mural of a sync, I guess almost uh Michael Myers like individual with uh like red behind them in a like literally a garage, and you put the right light on it, it will mess you up when you're going down a dark street.
• 1:45:21
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, that sounds cool.
• 1:45:22
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:45:23
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I found them.
• 1:45:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I um they're pretty cool called Garage Buddy.
• 1:45:28
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I get 10% off the top.
• 1:45:33
  SPEAKER_00: You can use my code Charles.
• 1:45:36
  SPEAKER_00: Right, and so yeah, they they're definitely so that like a garage cover or something like that, like those things that you just covered garage doors?
• 1:45:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
• 1:45:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, they even have stuff for your front door as well.
• 1:45:46
  SPEAKER_01: Is it like this one?
• 1:45:47
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have that one.
• 1:45:49
  SPEAKER_00: I have the uh the psycho one, but uh you put the lighting on it, yeah.
• 1:45:55
  SPEAKER_00: You can get it for a single-door garage, two-car garage, three-car garage.
• 1:46:01
  SPEAKER_00: You can wrap your front door and everything.
• 1:46:02
  SPEAKER_04: I've seen those.
• 1:46:03
  SPEAKER_04: They do that on cruise ships sometimes too.
• 1:46:05
  SPEAKER_04: Like when you go on a cruise ship, they wrap the whole door and they get all festered with it.
• 1:46:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, this one I think would mess me up right here.
• 1:46:13
  SPEAKER_01: That one.
• 1:46:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I thought about getting that one, but I was like, yeah, no, I can't.
• 1:46:20
  SPEAKER_01: It looks like your garage is actually open.
• 1:46:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like yeah, it does, yeah.
• 1:46:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like you just stand there.
• 1:46:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, mine, yeah, same thing.
• 1:46:25
  SPEAKER_01: Standing there with a sign.
• 1:46:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because that yeah, that's when I get into my um get into my Michael Myers and stand right beside it.
• 1:46:32
  SPEAKER_00: It sort of speakable up every time.
• 1:46:36
  SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
• 1:46:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so oh my goodness.
• 1:46:39
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, that one, yeah, is what is what I suggest.
• 1:46:45
  SPEAKER_04: Creepy.
• 1:46:46
  SPEAKER_05: I see.
• 1:46:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, see now watch that at night when there's low lighting.
• 1:46:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is really dark down the street.
• 1:46:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's like 2 a.m., you're coming home.
• 1:46:55
  SPEAKER_01: I had a I had a dream one time.
• 1:46:57
  SPEAKER_01: So my mom used to play uh Res Resident Evil on the couch, you know, in the living room.
• 1:47:03
  SPEAKER_01: You can hear the music and everything.
• 1:47:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I fell asleep on the couch one night, and there was of course like a table lamp here.
• 1:47:10
  SPEAKER_01: She just left the lamp on and she went to bed.
• 1:47:13
  SPEAKER_01: I woke up on the couch with the table lamp on, and I got really thirsty.
• 1:47:20
  SPEAKER_01: So I got up and uh you know, we had those um when you go up to the sink, there's a window there.
• 1:47:26
  SPEAKER_01: And because we lived uh in an apartment where the the window, you look out the window, you can see down this the edge of the street.
• 1:47:32
  SPEAKER_01: There wasn't much lighting at the end of the street, but you could still see the street.
• 1:47:35
  SPEAKER_04: Oh boy.
• 1:47:37
  SPEAKER_04: And then uh that's the creepy scene you're saying.
• 1:47:40
  SPEAKER_01: I walked up to the to the sink.
• 1:47:41
  SPEAKER_01: This is when we used to get water from the faucet.
• 1:47:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 1:47:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, and we used to drink tap water.
• 1:47:47
  SPEAKER_01: So I get some water and I'm drinking my water and I'm looking out the window, and I see someone walking in the middle of the street, which is just kind of strange, you know.
• 1:47:55
  SPEAKER_01: People walk on the sidewalk, they don't walk down the middle of the street.
• 1:47:58
  SPEAKER_01: There's no cars.
• 1:47:59
  SPEAKER_01: No, and you see the lamppost.
• 1:48:01
  SPEAKER_04: Shut the curtains.
• 1:48:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I walk out to the I mean I come from the kitchen to the dining room.
• 1:48:06
  SPEAKER_01: There's a window there, right?
• 1:48:07
  SPEAKER_01: As you know, people were to drive into the apartment complex.
• 1:48:11
  SPEAKER_01: So I open up the window and there's a face.
• 1:48:14
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
• 1:48:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's a zombie face, right looking at the window, like looking at me.
• 1:48:19
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:48:20
  SPEAKER_01: I shut the window and I scream.
• 1:48:22
  SPEAKER_01: And as soon as I scream, I wake up.
• 1:48:25
  SPEAKER_04: Oh.
• 1:48:25
  SPEAKER_01: On the couch with the lamp on.
• 1:48:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I am terrified to get up.
• 1:48:33
  SPEAKER_04: And you're like, what do I do next?
• 1:48:35
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not looking at that one.
• 1:48:37
  SPEAKER_04: That was a dream then, huh?
• 1:48:38
  SPEAKER_01: I was dreaming, yes.
• 1:48:39
  SPEAKER_01: But I told my mom she's not allowed to play Risen Eagle anymore in the living room.
• 1:48:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's funny.
• 1:48:44
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh.
• 1:48:45
  SPEAKER_04: That was a cool story.
• 1:48:46
  SPEAKER_00: That was that was cool.
• 1:48:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:48:48
  SPEAKER_00: Hilarious.
• 1:48:49
  SPEAKER_01: Never forget that one.
• 1:48:51
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 1:48:52
  SPEAKER_02: Ray, you got some stories?
• 1:48:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um, what kind?
• 1:48:57
  SPEAKER_02: What kind of stories do you want?
• 1:48:58
  SPEAKER_02: You want true stories, or you want.
• 1:48:59
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I got a true story.
• 1:49:02
  SPEAKER_02: Charles, Charles might like this.
• 1:49:03
  SPEAKER_03: I'm glad you picked.
• 1:49:07
  SPEAKER_04: I'm glad you picked, Ray.
• 1:49:09
  SPEAKER_02: Charles might like this one.
• 1:49:11
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:49:13
  SPEAKER_02: In Denver in November 2012, a U.S.
• 1:49:17
  SPEAKER_02: Postal Service mail carrier walked right past the porch steps of a home in Denver where 46-year-old Dale Porch had collapsed and passed away after returning home from a night shift.
• 1:49:29
  SPEAKER_02: Because it was just after Halloween, the mailman assumed the body was a realistic holiday display and did not report it.
• 1:49:36
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 1:49:36
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 1:49:38
  SPEAKER_02: And then I've got another one.
• 1:49:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um this was Frederica Delaware, a 42 year old woman committed suicide by hanging herself from a tree near a moderately busy road.
• 1:49:51
  SPEAKER_02: Passers by and neighbors looked at the body at breakfast time but dismissed it for over three hours, believing it was a Halloween prank or decoration.
• 1:49:58
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 1:50:00
  SPEAKER_02: And there's one more.
• 1:50:01
  SPEAKER_02: That's terrible.
• 1:50:01
  SPEAKER_02: This is Chili Coffee, Ohio 2015.
• 1:50:05
  SPEAKER_02: The body of a woman was found hanging from a chain link fence.
• 1:50:09
  SPEAKER_02: Neighbors initially walked past it assuming it was a Halloween dummy, only for construction workers to realize later it was a real homicide victim.
• 1:50:16
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 1:50:17
  SPEAKER_02: All these hangings in like on Halloween or that's messed up.
• 1:50:24
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that is messed up.
• 1:50:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's why they call it horror.
• 1:50:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:50:27
  SPEAKER_04: Was it?
• 1:50:28
  SPEAKER_04: I don't mean to open up a can of worms.
• 1:50:30
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but was it race related?
• 1:50:32
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 1:50:33
  SPEAKER_02: No, no.
• 1:50:33
  SPEAKER_02: There was no one man just died, and then the other lady was a victim of homicide, but one lady hung herself.
• 1:50:39
  SPEAKER_02: So that was she just hung herself.
• 1:50:42
  SPEAKER_00: So natural suicide homicide.
• 1:50:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:50:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:50:45
  SPEAKER_02: That's all it was, but it was too slavery.
• 1:50:47
  SPEAKER_01: Since it was Halloween time, people thought it was um I'm sure that I'm sure that that's happened more than once.
• 1:50:53
  SPEAKER_02: There's probably other stories if you research it.
• 1:50:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:50:57
  SPEAKER_01: Some real decorations.
• 1:50:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:51:00
  SPEAKER_01: The other thing that happens is uh people people were they copycats?
• 1:51:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 1:51:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, people, people murderous copycats, they want to they do that, yeah.
• 1:51:08
  SPEAKER_04: That's why they should be careful how they broadcast.
• 1:51:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
• 1:51:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:51:16
  SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
• 1:51:17
  SPEAKER_00: So what so come Halloween?
• 1:51:19
  SPEAKER_00: What do you guys uh Halloween?
• 1:51:22
  SPEAKER_00: Do you guys just leave candy outside your door, or do you actually wait for them to come uh bring your doorma, you open it up, give them the candy when you I sit outside with the table and I used to put decorations, lighted up decorations out there until last year.
• 1:51:38
  SPEAKER_02: I had to it just got to be too much work to get it out and put it away.
• 1:51:42
  SPEAKER_02: So uh starting last year, I I don't do candy or decorations anymore.
• 1:51:47
  SPEAKER_02: It was too much work.
• 1:51:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because we have the littles, we don't do it either.
• 1:51:50
  SPEAKER_01: The dogs will bark and the kids will cry and it's just too much now.
• 1:51:56
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 1:51:57
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 1:51:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:51:58
  SPEAKER_00: See, yeah, what we do uh the same thing, read the read it.
• 1:52:02
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's pretty much most everybody in our neighborhood because we have so many kids that come through.
• 1:52:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um we have a table and we just decorate, essentially decorate the table.
• 1:52:14
  SPEAKER_00: I have some uh actually uh a projector that predicts like talking uh uh pumpkins.
• 1:52:24
  SPEAKER_00: And so most of the time, yeah, most of the time people like stop and watch the pumpkins talk and all that good stuff.
• 1:52:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but my favorite thing about it is I dress up and I scare the kids.
• 1:52:39
  SPEAKER_00: Let's test your bravery.
• 1:52:40
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's funny.
• 1:52:42
  SPEAKER_04: You get the trick and the treat.
• 1:52:43
  SPEAKER_01: Do you do uh do you do hot it like uh like uh haunted houses, like scary houses, like fair for fear for Fear Farm and all those things?
• 1:52:51
  SPEAKER_00: I used to, um but now uh they're like too expensive, yeah, and not uh but they're kind of crappy, so it's like I'm not gonna spend 30 bucks to go through some crap someone just put together and not really any thought behind it.
• 1:53:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, eh.
• 1:53:10
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I definitely used to.
• 1:53:11
  SPEAKER_00: I actually used to work at one as a uh side hustle.
• 1:53:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh fine.
• 1:53:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah as a character or uh actually I was doing security.
• 1:53:20
  SPEAKER_00: I like security.
• 1:53:21
  SPEAKER_00: Oh definitely was fun being security.
• 1:53:23
  SPEAKER_00: Either way, you can scare somebody else.
• 1:53:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, pretty much.
• 1:53:26
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it was um at Westgate when Westgate uh first opened up, there was uh some still open uh empty storefronts and stuff, so someone just bought uh printed out one of the storefronts during that Halloween time and uh set up a haunted house.
• 1:53:46
  SPEAKER_00: That's cool.
• 1:53:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was definitely fun doing that.
• 1:53:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um but don't have that kind of time now, not my fun is uh the little uh scaring the kids and stuff.
• 1:53:56
  SPEAKER_02: So I've been to two haunted houses.
• 1:54:00
  SPEAKER_02: One was up on um central, um east of uh east just east west of central, and it was run by a church, so they had a big house, property, and uh they they had a haunted house.
• 1:54:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's interesting.
• 1:54:15
  SPEAKER_02: So I went to that one, that one was good, and then there was one uh downtown Phoenix, somewhere we went as a church group, and that one was pretty scary too.
• 1:54:25
  SPEAKER_02: Was it Roosevelt Row?
• 1:54:26
  SPEAKER_02: No, it wasn't no, no First Friday.
• 1:54:31
  SPEAKER_02: But it was just kidding.
• 1:54:32
  SPEAKER_02: Those were the only two I've been to, and uh they were pretty scary.
• 1:54:35
  SPEAKER_02: I I've never been to Fear Farm or any of those.
• 1:54:37
  SPEAKER_02: They just I thought would be too scary, so I I they didn't appeal to me.
• 1:54:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:54:44
  SPEAKER_04: I went to the Alice Cooper haunted house, and I think that was I mean, I went probably late 90s, early 2000s.
• 1:54:54
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, you would have been a little guy.
• 1:54:56
  SPEAKER_04: That was probably one of the best haunted house Halloween haunted house experiences that he doesn't do that anymore, does he?
• 1:55:03
  SPEAKER_02: No, I don't think he did.
• 1:55:04
  SPEAKER_04: I don't think so.
• 1:55:05
  SPEAKER_04: I haven't heard of it.
• 1:55:06
  SPEAKER_04: This was down on like Third Avenue in Jackson or something like that.
• 1:55:09
  SPEAKER_04: Jackson's on Third.
• 1:55:13
  SPEAKER_04: Coopertown.
• 1:55:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, my uncle took me over there, and it was very, very cool.
• 1:55:18
  SPEAKER_04: Like I remember it was so realistic.
• 1:55:20
  SPEAKER_04: It was it was a really cool haunted house.
• 1:55:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's cool.
• 1:55:23
  SPEAKER_02: I wish it was still there.
• 1:55:24
  SPEAKER_02: I'd go see it.
• 1:55:24
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, pretty cool, uncle.
• 1:55:27
  SPEAKER_04: There, there's a not really anymore.
• 1:55:29
  SPEAKER_04: Sorry.
• 1:55:30
  SPEAKER_04: Uh we can keep that in.
• 1:55:32
  SPEAKER_04: Um, we uh there's uh you go to Costco and there's something like it.
• 1:55:37
  SPEAKER_04: It's called like the Friday the 13th experience.
• 1:55:40
  SPEAKER_04: I don't I've never done it before.
• 1:55:41
  SPEAKER_04: Oh I've I've heard of that.
• 1:55:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they sell tickets to that.
• 1:55:44
  SPEAKER_04: I've never done that.
• 1:55:44
  SPEAKER_04: Have you?
• 1:55:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, 13th floor.
• 1:55:46
  SPEAKER_04: 13th, that's the that's right.
• 1:55:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, 13th floor.
• 1:55:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I went to that when they first opened.
• 1:55:50
  SPEAKER_00: It was okay.
• 1:55:51
  SPEAKER_00: I actually taught Christine and go into that one.
• 1:55:54
  SPEAKER_00: And uh guys, true story in college, because Christine and I went to the same college.
• 1:56:03
  SPEAKER_00: They had the college had set up um like we're one of the fraternities, set up uh like a haunted quote unquote forest.
• 1:56:12
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 1:56:12
  SPEAKER_00: And so yeah, so I uh commissioned her to go with me.
• 1:56:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, big mistake on my part.
• 1:56:21
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 1:56:22
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 1:56:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because I nearly lost the arm because she was running so fast because the like you said with the chainsaw, one of the uh uh chainsaw will get you.
• 1:56:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, one of the actress had the chainsaw.
• 1:56:36
  SPEAKER_00: Not only did she kick at him with the uh with the chainsaw, which the chain had been taken off, so he got with just a bunch of hearing the noise.
• 1:56:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:56:45
  SPEAKER_00: So she kicked at him, ran, took off, had my arm, and I was at steady position, just yanked on my arm.
• 1:56:55
  SPEAKER_00: I was thinking about the socket and took you out.
• 1:56:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, what the like a firecracker.
• 1:57:02
  SPEAKER_00: Please.
• 1:57:02
  SPEAKER_00: And so yeah, it takes uh it took me uh enough, it took me a while to get it to go to another.
• 1:57:08
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it took me years to get it to go to another one.
• 1:57:11
  SPEAKER_00: And so yeah, again, it wasn't the same because I was a friend and there was a bunch of other scared people behind me besides her.
• 1:57:19
  SPEAKER_00: So everybody was all hugher behind me because I was just walking through just laughing, looking at them, and it was like cool costume, whatever.
• 1:57:27
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 1:57:28
  SPEAKER_00: And they're just screaming and stuff behind me.
• 1:57:30
  SPEAKER_04: Takes a lot to scare you, huh?
• 1:57:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:57:32
  SPEAKER_00: That's funny.
• 1:57:33
  SPEAKER_04: He almost lost an arm though.
• 1:57:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just I think it was yeah.
• 1:57:40
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, yeah, I might should have rethought that one.
• 1:57:43
  SPEAKER_00: But it was still fun.
• 1:57:45
  SPEAKER_01: So, what do you think is probably the scariest movie you've ever seen for you?
• 1:57:50
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have a scariest?
• 1:57:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like you can't watch it again?
• 1:57:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't have one that's necessarily the scariest, the one that more disturbing probably the most disturbing one is the one called uh human centipede.
• 1:58:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yes.
• 1:58:17
  SPEAKER_01: That is pretty disturbing.
• 1:58:19
  SPEAKER_00: Disgusting.
• 1:58:20
  SPEAKER_02: Have you seen that one, Jakers?
• 1:58:22
  SPEAKER_02: I've seen I've seen enough of it in the world.
• 1:58:25
  SPEAKER_04: I don't need to see the entire thing.
• 1:58:28
  SPEAKER_04: That's one of those things where I could take from my wife and just view the trailer.
• 1:58:31
  SPEAKER_01: And see, that's not that's a that's a horror movie, but it's also like more of like a murder movie.
• 1:58:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's like a that was sick.
• 1:58:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and they may actually had the nerve to make a second one.
• 1:58:42
  SPEAKER_04: Have you seen that movie, Renee?
• 1:58:44
  SPEAKER_04: Of course not.
• 1:58:45
  SPEAKER_04: I never even heard of it.
• 1:58:46
  SPEAKER_04: Sewed at the mouth.
• 1:58:48
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, they sewed the people together like a human centipede.
• 1:58:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 1:58:52
  SPEAKER_01: Mouth to mouth.
• 1:58:53
  SPEAKER_04: Mouth to butt to butt to mouth.
• 1:58:56
  SPEAKER_04: You don't look surprised.
• 1:58:58
  SPEAKER_04: Have you seen this before?
• 1:58:59
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, I wouldn't have thought I got some reaction to heard this over here like saying more.
• 1:59:05
  SPEAKER_02: No, I thought there was more to the story than that.
• 1:59:07
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, that was enough.
• 1:59:09
  SPEAKER_04: That's enough right there.
• 1:59:10
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:59:11
  SPEAKER_04: That's enough for most people.
• 1:59:12
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, what's going on?
• 1:59:13
  SPEAKER_02: No wonder you didn't see it.
• 1:59:14
  SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't either.
• 1:59:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:59:16
  SPEAKER_00: I was it wouldn't.
• 1:59:18
  SPEAKER_00: When I heard about that, I was intrigued.
• 1:59:22
  SPEAKER_01: There's a small visual for you.
• 1:59:23
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 1:59:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was intrigued just off the poster.
• 1:59:27
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, okay, this should be interesting.
• 1:59:30
  SPEAKER_00: And when it went on, I was like, this was nothing but I was picturing in my head.
• 1:59:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's the problem with posters.
• 1:59:38
  SPEAKER_00: That's it messes you up.
• 1:59:40
  SPEAKER_00: You get one visual in your head versus what you actually see.
• 1:59:43
  SPEAKER_02: And so I should come over Halloween night and you should show it to me.
• 1:59:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no.
• 1:59:48
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 1:59:48
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:59:50
  SPEAKER_01: That that body whore I can't stomach.
• 1:59:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:59:53
  SPEAKER_00: That yeah.
• 1:59:54
  SPEAKER_00: That one, I'm like, oh no, sorry.
• 1:59:56
  SPEAKER_04: I'll need a barf bag.
• 1:59:58
  SPEAKER_01: So part two is actually uh like how you were saying about the uh return of the they're they're obsessed with the fact that they actually made the first movie and kind of did that the um copycat.
• 2:00:11
  SPEAKER_00: No, once is enough.
• 2:00:12
  SPEAKER_00: You don't need another one.
• 2:00:13
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't even bother with the second one.
• 2:00:15
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, nope, no way.
• 2:00:17
  SPEAKER_01: No, like is there even an end to that?
• 2:00:19
  SPEAKER_01: Does it even happen like is there an even end?
• 2:00:24
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it it's I rarely ever get scared.
• 2:00:29
  SPEAKER_00: You can surprise me, but not scare me.
• 2:00:32
  SPEAKER_00: So that's that's the that's the thing, which is a big difference when I say that.
• 2:00:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like uh surprise me is just like I wouldn't necessarily expect it.
• 2:00:43
  SPEAKER_00: Scare me is like we're we might be fighting.
• 2:00:48
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, no, it's uh I rarely get too um scared out of a movie.
• 2:00:55
  SPEAKER_04: Apparently there was three of them.
• 2:00:56
  unknown: Okay.
• 2:00:57
  SPEAKER_04: There was three human centipede movies.
• 2:01:00
  SPEAKER_00: What were they thinking?
• 2:01:02
  SPEAKER_00: One's the people are really interested.
• 2:01:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, that sounds yeah, no.
• 2:01:08
  SPEAKER_00: Who's a big fan?
• 2:01:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like I want to know what studio had the nerve to provide that money.
• 2:01:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like exactly my point.
• 2:01:16
  SPEAKER_04: Did they actually make uh profits on each movie?
• 2:01:19
  SPEAKER_04: There is no way.
• 2:01:22
  SPEAKER_04: Was somebody just rich and exercising a sick fantasy?
• 2:01:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there has to be some dark or a dark web thing.
• 2:01:29
  SPEAKER_00: It has to be.
• 2:01:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, it has to be.
• 2:01:31
  SPEAKER_00: There's no way.
• 2:01:33
  SPEAKER_00: There is no way, yeah.
• 2:01:35
  SPEAKER_01: One person.
• 2:01:36
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it was written, directed, and co-produced by the same guy.
• 2:01:40
  SPEAKER_02: Well, of course it would be.
• 2:01:41
  SPEAKER_02: One person, nobody else would.
• 2:01:42
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody's interested.
• 2:01:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or a sick mind behind it.
• 2:01:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a tough one.
• 2:01:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:01:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, that's moving on there.
• 2:01:53
  SPEAKER_00: See, this is where Hollywood just goes crazy right there.
• 2:01:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, because I'm sure there was some cultural thing behind it at first, and then Hollywood just took it and just went completely left turn down the street somewhere with fuck wild.
• 2:02:12
  SPEAKER_01: So what is your what do you what what movie do you think that you would recommend to everyone that has to see it at least once?
• 2:02:19
  SPEAKER_01: It could be any kind of.
• 2:02:21
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
• 2:02:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's a tough one.
• 2:02:23
  SPEAKER_00: Would you go with your favorite or would you I would I would not I would that would it would be in my, I guess, top five in terms of of uh what I would recommend.
• 2:02:38
  SPEAKER_00: I would say they could probably start with actually Evil Dead would probably be one that I would recommend, as well as uh Knight of Delivering the Dead, the original George Romero one.
• 2:02:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, the black and white.
• 2:02:54
  SPEAKER_00: The black and white, yes.
• 2:02:55
  SPEAKER_00: That one.
• 2:02:56
  SPEAKER_00: And then maybe the remake.
• 2:02:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um certain context so they can see the contrast.
• 2:03:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:03:05
  SPEAKER_00: Because Romero did uh Romero was pretty ahead of his time in terms of a lot of those movies.
• 2:03:11
  SPEAKER_00: So any anything in the Romero.
• 2:03:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, when you set have it have everything set in one location, it's pretty cool to see how everybody strangers react to how do we get out of this situation when there's a house full of zombies or or cords of zombies coming to one house that you've never been to just to find refuge.
• 2:03:31
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 2:03:31
  SPEAKER_00: And so yeah, and and if you've ever because there's actually was a documentary with um about George Romero.
• 2:03:40
  SPEAKER_00: And apparently he no, being a maverick in the film industry, he did a lot of things that was considered um taboo.
• 2:03:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like actually, you know, you know, being um casting a black dude in the role.
• 2:04:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh serious role, but that was not the thing to do back then.
• 2:04:04
  SPEAKER_00: And so he was the first, he didn't care.
• 2:04:06
  SPEAKER_00: He said he he literally didn't see color and he was like he's the best person for the job, so he got it.
• 2:04:14
  SPEAKER_00: And so yeah, Romero did a lot of things that were uh He did tales from the Dark Side, yeah.
• 2:04:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow, yeah, he did he his uh filmography is vast.
• 2:04:24
  SPEAKER_00: You just may not necessarily know it, but yeah, he's done a lot of stuff, he's produced a lot of things and creep show.
• 2:04:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's yeah, he's been on the forefront when it comes to the horror genre.
• 2:04:33
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I would recommend anything that he's done in terms of like the Night of the Living Dead, Donna the Dead, Day of the Dead.
• 2:04:41
  SPEAKER_00: Those are all Romero and people have just come along and they're various forms of of it in terms of remaking or what uh or whatnot.
• 2:04:51
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah.
• 2:04:53
  SPEAKER_00: Those are what I would uh recommend outside of return to the living dead, of course.
• 2:04:57
  SPEAKER_00: The first one, the second one on not so much but definitely uh stick with their first on that again, you know Hollywood is starting to to learn a little bit about how to um make a pretty decent horror movie.
• 2:05:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um and they've definitely embraced a lot of the our our foreign car uh counterparts.
• 2:05:29
  SPEAKER_01: Have you ever have you ever seen Pan's Labyrinth?
• 2:05:32
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 2:05:34
  SPEAKER_00: When I saw the running time, I was like, uh I I don't feel like sitting there for that.
• 2:05:39
  SPEAKER_00: I've seen bits and pieces just over the course of the years.
• 2:05:44
  SPEAKER_00: It seems interesting.
• 2:05:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's one that a lot of the people in the in the Spanish culture really like.
• 2:05:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 2:05:50
  SPEAKER_01: Just because it's so beautifully done.
• 2:05:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's like almost like um fantasy.
• 2:05:54
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 2:05:55
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, fantasy horror.
• 2:05:58
  SPEAKER_01: So that's pretty interesting.
• 2:05:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's a documentary that you might like.
• 2:06:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um it goes a span over uh like decades, and that was actually one of the ones that was in there.
• 2:06:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um it actually is in my list of movies that I've seen recently because there's also one called uh VH not sure if you've seen it, uh VHS, which literally is more of anthology, but they sort of play in into each other um along the way.
• 2:06:51
  SPEAKER_00: So that might be another one that might interest you.
• 2:06:55
  SPEAKER_00: And there's uh in the darkness.
• 2:06:58
  SPEAKER_00: In search of darkness, there we go.
• 2:07:01
  SPEAKER_00: They're journey into the iconic um in search of it's in the in search of darkness part one and part two and part three.
• 2:07:19
  SPEAKER_00: It just goes through the various years of of horror.
• 2:07:27
  SPEAKER_00: I could watch that.
• 2:07:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then there's one by Cultural Legacy and Horror Cinema.
• 2:07:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, and it's uh and they got ones that goes by decades, the nineties, the eighties.
• 2:07:39
  SPEAKER_01: See that I can I that I can do.
• 2:07:40
  SPEAKER_01: I like stuff like that.
• 2:07:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 2:07:42
  SPEAKER_00: And so that was that was a pretty good you get a lot of the backstory, like when I was talking about Romero, he's on there a lot of the time, explaining a lot of his movies and what they were thinking and some of the actors from the uh from the movies and so and a lot of umes that you didn't think were had started in horror.
• 2:08:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's my that's my thing that has yet to not be disproven.
• 2:08:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's only been proven the more I see uh a lot of the stars is every actor starts in a horror movie.
• 2:08:19
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, how they get their stars.
• 2:08:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's where you start.
• 2:08:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's where you first see him in there yeah, there's all of them everywhere.
• 2:08:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like Leonardo Leonardo DiCaprio, he was in critters.
• 2:08:30
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 2:08:31
  SPEAKER_00: And so you he's I remember him from Family Ties though.
• 2:08:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:08:35
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's a series, but when he no, he really got no with the critters and then Bacon.
• 2:08:42
  SPEAKER_00: Kevin Bacon, oh yeah, six degrees.
• 2:08:44
  SPEAKER_00: He's yeah, he's in six degrees of Kevin Bacon.
• 2:08:48
  SPEAKER_00: He's there, he's tremors, he's he was started out with uh Friday, actually Friday the 13th as well.
• 2:08:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's a lot of these get their real start in horror, regardless, you know, but uh or at least in some aspect if it's not necessarily a movie, it's in some series.
• 2:09:07
  SPEAKER_04: Oh wow.
• 2:09:08
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 2:09:09
  SPEAKER_00: So if you ever want to be famous, starting a horror movie first.
• 2:09:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, starting a horror movie.
• 2:09:14
  SPEAKER_00: No, not me or not me.
• 2:09:16
  SPEAKER_02: I would never be in a scary movie.
• 2:09:17
  SPEAKER_02: Shh.
• 2:09:18
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 2:09:19
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Ray does not want to be famous.
• 2:09:21
  SPEAKER_02: No, I do not want to be famous.
• 2:09:23
  SPEAKER_02: So why am I on a podcast?
• 2:09:25
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 2:09:26
  SPEAKER_02: Oh nobody has a gun pointed at you.
• 2:09:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, you're you do.
• 2:09:30
  SPEAKER_02: You're able to freely go.
• 2:09:32
  SPEAKER_02: No, you talk me into it.
• 2:09:34
  SPEAKER_02: Now I'm here.
• 2:09:34
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm here.
• 2:09:35
  SPEAKER_02: I talk a lot of people into a lot of things, apparently.
• 2:09:38
  SPEAKER_02: I guess you do.
• 2:09:39
  SPEAKER_00: See, but nobody's uh but they you're on the radio, uh they don't can hear you, they don't see you, so they don't.
• 2:09:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
• 2:09:46
  SPEAKER_00: So you want you can be famous, but they won't know who you are when you're gonna be.
• 2:09:49
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, very good.
• 2:09:50
  SPEAKER_04: I like that.
• 2:09:51
  SPEAKER_04: Our next podcast is a video podcast episode.
• 2:09:54
  SPEAKER_04: It is so, isn't it?
• 2:09:55
  SPEAKER_04: If you want to see, I think it's episode 51.
• 2:09:59
  SPEAKER_04: Check it out.
• 2:10:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not on this one.
• 2:10:02
  SPEAKER_04: It's called Inside Notes.
• 2:10:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, it'll be available on YouTube in collaboration with it.
• 2:10:07
  SPEAKER_02: I did that one kicking and screaming too, but I I survived.
• 2:10:10
  SPEAKER_04: No, you didn't you were like, Jake, can I please be on this one?
• 2:10:14
  SPEAKER_02: I did, didn't I?
• 2:10:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I did say that.
• 2:10:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, I did.
• 2:10:17
  SPEAKER_04: Because I was like, Ray, I don't think you want to be on this one, so I'll make sure that you're not on.
• 2:10:20
  SPEAKER_04: You're like, wait a minute.
• 2:10:22
  SPEAKER_04: Who said I don't want to be on it?
• 2:10:24
  SPEAKER_04: I wanted to be on it.
• 2:10:25
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, I wanted to be on it.
• 2:10:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay, thank you.
• 2:10:29
  SPEAKER_04: I'm glad you did.
• 2:10:30
  SPEAKER_04: So, Charles, you know what a limerick is?
• 2:10:33
  SPEAKER_04: Um Christine tell you.
• 2:10:36
  SPEAKER_04: Did you listen to hers?
• 2:10:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's a her hers.
• 2:10:38
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I was like, I've heard about the limericks.
• 2:10:41
  SPEAKER_04: You got one now.
• 2:10:42
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's hit it.
• 2:10:43
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I took some liberties, okay, with this, okay.
• 2:10:46
  SPEAKER_02: There once was a tech named Charles who sorted through bloody snarls with dust for a print and an ultraviolent hint.
• 2:10:55
  SPEAKER_02: He solved all the city's quarrels.
• 2:10:58
  SPEAKER_00: Bravo! Nice, pretty nice.
• 2:11:01
  SPEAKER_00: I like it, I like it.
• 2:11:02
  SPEAKER_00: Bravo.
• 2:11:03
  SPEAKER_00: Well, feel free to send that to me.
• 2:11:05
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I get it ranked.
• 2:11:08
  SPEAKER_03: He'll be on the podcast.
• 2:11:10
  SPEAKER_01: Which I think this is kind of goes back to your uh to your favorite movie because it's got the whole medical lab thing.
• 2:11:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, yes, because that's probably where I'm gonna uh well once I retired, I'll probably actually probably do mortuary science, become a mortician or something.
• 2:11:28
  SPEAKER_00: That's cool.
• 2:11:29
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 2:11:30
  SPEAKER_00: Or be mortuary assistant.
• 2:11:32
  SPEAKER_02: That's more that's more than I could do, even though I'm qualified for that.
• 2:11:36
  SPEAKER_02: Remember?
• 2:11:36
  SPEAKER_02: That was on another episode that's a couple of things.
• 2:11:38
  SPEAKER_02: That'd be cool.
• 2:11:39
  SPEAKER_02: Or we already did.
• 2:11:40
  SPEAKER_02: I can't remember.
• 2:11:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're all over the place.
• 2:11:43
  SPEAKER_01: That means you could do it too.
• 2:11:45
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