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ITB: Safety Position For Eagles Under Major Reconstruction After Flurry Of Moves · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back.
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Everybody is Jeff Mosher, Adam Kaplan back with Inside the
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Birds and man, you know what, Adam. If people thought
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: it was gonna be kind of like a lazy weekend
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: for Eagles.
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: They were wrong. There was a lot of Eagles news.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately for me, it all came out at a great moment.
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  Speaker 1: For me, I had never before covered in everything I've
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: done in my sports writing career, I've covered Super Bowls
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: and NBA playoffs, NHL playoff everything and pretty much everything
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  Speaker 1: even some low level sports. You'd never even heard of,
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  Speaker 1: NASCAR steeplechase, horseshoes championships, every league, yes, yes, but never
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: an NCAA tournament game. So when it was here in Philly,
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: we had Philly Voice jumped to the chance to cover it.
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  Speaker 1: And so, I mean, I didn't love the ten thirty
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: pm start for the Yukon gave Furman game, but it
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  Speaker 1: was an awesome experience.
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: It was also their Sunday night.
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: But yeah, in the middle of the Friday night games,
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get settled in and.
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  Speaker 2: There's some Phillies news.
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  Speaker 1: They announced their starting rotation and then bam, the Eagles
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: just start going crazy at safety.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, funny, so real quick I had.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure everyone watching has had their own favorite sports
• 1:18
  Speaker 4: experience attending a game. I'm gonna say my number one.
• 1:24
  Speaker 4: If it's not number one, it's top three. I was
• 1:27
  Speaker 4: either in eighth or ninth grade the East Region here
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  Speaker 4: in Philly, so I'm gonna date myself, but I don't care.
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  Speaker 4: This is a great experience. This is my long term
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  Speaker 4: memory is ridiculously great. I remember all of it. Third
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  Speaker 4: level seats, third level at the spectrum.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't care. We got in.
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  Speaker 4: It was Maryland left Heaterzelle uh huh was a coach.
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  Speaker 4: It was Albert King and Buck Williams. For those of
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  Speaker 4: you who the fall Collge football in the NBA, it
• 1:53
  Speaker 4: was John Thompson and Georgetown before Patrick King was erk
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  Speaker 4: Sleepy Floyd with Georgetown and then Sarah Q You. I
• 2:01
  Speaker 4: hated Jim Behem with it. I just couldn't stand him.
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  Speaker 4: I hated him because he's a whiner.
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  Speaker 2: Had a big fan myself.
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  Speaker 4: Great coach that I don't I never had him, no doubt,
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  Speaker 4: no doubt. But it was the The Louis and Bowie
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  Speaker 4: Show was Roosevelt. Bowie was the center and Louis so
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  Speaker 4: Or Louis Or who got drafted by the Knicks. And
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  Speaker 4: then Iowa with Ronnie Leicster was the point guard, big
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  Speaker 4: time point guard. Doctor Tom Davis, without looking I think
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  Speaker 4: was the head coach. I was like in total of
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  Speaker 4: because my favorite college sport growing up was not football,
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  Speaker 4: was basketball. Same and I was just in total all
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  Speaker 4: of it. I again, you're talking, you know it was
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  Speaker 4: you know how long ago? That was five years ago?
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  Speaker 2: Wait, you said Buck Williams, right, Buck Williams was on Maryland.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Buck Wallings and Abert Did Buck wear the goggles
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  Speaker 4: that he used to wear in the NBA?
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  Speaker 3: Did Albert? Albert King was a small forward. Buck was
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  Speaker 3: the power forward.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, I don't. I don't remember much about them. I
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  Speaker 4: named Bob Hanson, I think was the their guard for Iowa.
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  Speaker 4: I know he would play in the NBA for maybe
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  Speaker 4: for the Bulls. Just an average player, but it was
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  Speaker 4: some of the and they were games are competitive. I
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  Speaker 4: don't remember who won the region. I just remember being
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  Speaker 4: in total awe of it. And it's one of the
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  Speaker 4: few times and you have terrible seats, you don't care,
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  Speaker 4: You're just in there.
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  Speaker 3: And oh we had binoculars. We could see.
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  Speaker 4: This is for those of you who are not from
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  Speaker 4: Philly never went to the Spectrum. The Spectrum site lines
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  Speaker 4: are not great, but I do remember that we did
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  Speaker 4: have sort of near the center. And then the other
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  Speaker 4: thing was and we learned this. Then I didn't know that,
• 3:34
  Speaker 4: and I would apply it to other times that I
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  Speaker 4: would go to college basketball games. I didn't understand being
• 3:40
  Speaker 4: that young in high school or maybe eighth or ninth grade,
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  Speaker 4: whatever it was, that the teams that lose, those kids
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  Speaker 4: don't want to be there. They want out, Yeah, they
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  Speaker 4: want out. So they saw their seats for value, for
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  Speaker 4: face value. So we're less. So we moved up the
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  Speaker 4: next day and I used the same story, the same
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  Speaker 4: information when I went to the regional. This is the
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  Speaker 4: big one in ninety one when Laterer hit the shot
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  Speaker 4: against the Tate George hit the Yukon shot, but late
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  Speaker 4: whatever whatever year was, yeah, yeah, it was and second
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  Speaker 4: level at brendan Burn Arena. And then we moved down
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  Speaker 4: because we knew the kids were going to sell the seats.
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  Speaker 3: Then I went. The last one I went was at
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  Speaker 3: what's what do they call it now? Is it? What's
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  Speaker 3: it called the Infinity Center what they call it? Right, Okay?
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  Speaker 3: So I went and we saw it was it was, Oh.
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  Speaker 4: Jason Williams with Duke the point guard is on ESPN, sure,
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  Speaker 4: and I think one of them. I went to Don
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  Speaker 4: McLain to play for UCLA, was it? But he was
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  Speaker 4: a ballhog? He wouldn't he was a score like he
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  Speaker 4: was a big time scorer. Yeah, but he was like
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  Speaker 4: number forty two. Uh that actually McClain might have been
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  Speaker 4: at the one and uh I think that was the
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  Speaker 4: one in Brendan Burn Arena. That was Yeah, yeah, early nineties.
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  Speaker 4: But uh, it just I'm telling you, if you could
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  Speaker 4: ever take your kids, if you want to take your
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  Speaker 4: if your kids even like college basketball a little bit, yep,
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  Speaker 4: if you'd ever get them folks to in a region
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  Speaker 4: wherever you live.
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  Speaker 3: It's the grace experience.
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  Speaker 4: My older cousin took me, and I mean, you can't
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  Speaker 4: you see how I'm speaking.
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  Speaker 3: That experience was like it was like life changing.
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  Speaker 4: Then.
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  Speaker 3: I just couldn't believe I got to go to that thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's really cool.
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  Speaker 1: The coolest thing on Friday Night was, unfortunately for Philly
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  Speaker 1: fans who really loved the upset part of the tournament.
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  Speaker 2: Every game was chalk.
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  Speaker 1: You know, UCLA be e CF and Tennessee one and
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  Speaker 1: Virginia one Miami of Ohio by the way, for all
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  Speaker 1: the hype going thirty one straight, they did not show up,
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: so it went shock. But I will say UCF, whose
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  Speaker 1: coach was Johnny Dawkins, former seventy six er, they played
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  Speaker 1: so tough and so physical and they whittled it down
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  Speaker 1: from eleven to three with about under twenty seconds left.
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  Speaker 1: They had a kid, Jordan Burke's go get hot, and
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  Speaker 1: the entire Philly crowd. I don't know if it was
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  Speaker 1: because they you Dawkins was the coach and he was
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  Speaker 1: like a Philly guy you know, played sixers, or or
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  Speaker 1: they just were rooting for the upset. But all the
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  Speaker 1: whole Exfinity Mabile Arena was was you see f You
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  Speaker 1: see really at that point, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know Johnny Dawkins, if he didn't tear his acl against Milwaukee,
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  Speaker 4: m h here's a guy. He looked like he was
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  Speaker 4: going to be a star and he was never really
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  Speaker 4: the same coming It's been a good story, it's been
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  Speaker 4: a good coach. But yeah, so is it because I
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  Speaker 4: know you're covering it, are you able to enjoy it
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  Speaker 4: or you're just like, hey, I gotta get this done
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  Speaker 4: by deadline.
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  Speaker 1: And well, Friday night was tough because of all the
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: things that we're about to talk about with the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: So by the time I was able to redirect my phote,
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  Speaker 1: I will say so the first two games is when
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: all that stuff happened. So I didn't really pay attention
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  Speaker 1: as much as I wanted to to the Virginia I
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  Speaker 1: forget who Virginia played, and then Tennessee. It was Virginia
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  Speaker 1: Wright State Tennessee Miami of Ohio, I believe or I
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  Speaker 1: have that reverse. So I didn't get a chance to
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  Speaker 1: watch that as much, but I did get you know,
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  Speaker 1: I got into UCF versus U c l A. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, Mick cronin the U c l A coach,
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  Speaker 1: he was a true I already knew he was a character.
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  Speaker 2: I know him. I know we're all out.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, he had Dallas andros stakes delivered to his
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  Speaker 1: entire love that and then afterwards he wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: to Joe.
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  Speaker 2: So that was a fun game to really get it.
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  Speaker 3: He said that the press conference. I'm like, oh my,
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  Speaker 3: all right, so who told him?
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  Speaker 2: Right right?
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  Speaker 1: He said Dick Girardi did, oh yeah, yeah, who else?
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  Speaker 2: Who else.
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  Speaker 1: Or Mike car and I don't know, right right, and
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  Speaker 1: then Yukon Furman was was annoyingly close for a while,
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  Speaker 1: but then Yukon finally pulled away. But you cons with
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  Speaker 1: that one of their they were that they were in
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  Speaker 1: that game without one of their best, two of their
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: one of their best players, and two overall players, so
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: it was a little bit difficult for them, but it
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  Speaker 1: was a great experience. I love seeing the arena just
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  Speaker 1: come alive, rocking, like, yeah, it was really fun.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad I did it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so so, like I said in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the middle of game too, I think it was when
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  Speaker 1: it is when all the Eagles news came down. Now,
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not I don't think either of you or I
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: are surprised. In fact, we may have discussed this in
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  Speaker 1: a podcast that Cidney Brown would be a perfect trade candidate.
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: He just doesn't fit the defense. It's going into the
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: last year of his contract. The Falcons must love former
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: Eagles because now they have him and Johan Dotson. I thought,
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  Speaker 1: maybe Adam, that this would be a trade that was
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: consummated coming out of camp when you're trying to fill
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  Speaker 1: holes and you're trying to get rid of players. But
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: you know what, if you have a taker, you got
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: a take her, you go for it. And so they
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  Speaker 1: don't get much. They get like two swaps on day three.
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  Speaker 1: But you weren't going to get much for Sidney Brown anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So let's just go inside the Sydney Brown.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm gonna You're right, they didn't get much.
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  Speaker 4: But the thing I don't understand. Okay, let's get into
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  Speaker 4: this right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you brought it up.
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  Speaker 3: Cidney Brown is.
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  Speaker 4: Not a guy who's going to play on defense most likely. Right, well, Sunday,
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  Speaker 4: right exactly. A guy calls me Sunday guys in scouting
• 8:50
  Speaker 4: because we were just catching up. I texted him about
• 8:53
  Speaker 4: I had a bunch of questions about his team because,
• 8:56
  Speaker 4: by the way, what was Ian cutningha thinking, I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea. He goes, was he there? Was
• 9:01
  Speaker 4: he there when he was drafted when City Brown was drift?
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  Speaker 4: I said, no, he was not right, he was not
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  Speaker 4: left left in twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 3: So I have no idea.
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  Speaker 4: Less there's, as I said to the guy, unless Jeff Albrick,
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  Speaker 4: who's who's the defense coordinator wants to play big nickel. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: three safeties, what's the I don't I don't see the fit.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't see the fit.
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  Speaker 2: I don't either.
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  Speaker 1: I know olbrick is, he's not a too high guy.
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: Sometimes he's more of a cover one. So if you're
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: looking for a box, a depth box safety who maybe
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  Speaker 1: you think has the upside to become a starter in
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: a better in a defense more structured to his skill set. Maybe,
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: but that's why you don't give up much for him.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: You're you're just literally throwing a dart here and just
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: giving up.
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  Speaker 4: Well, but but here's what the guy brought up, and
• 9:47
  Speaker 4: I just wanted to verify this.
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  Speaker 3: It's the guy was ready, goes.
• 9:50
  Speaker 4: You realize that they only five draft picks, so they
• 9:53
  Speaker 4: made the former GM totally missed him. Well, it doesn't
• 9:55
  Speaker 4: look good for James Pierce. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really rough.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And and they only have five picks, and one
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  Speaker 4: of those rounds you're giving up the fourth round. He goes,
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  Speaker 4: that's a that's a high end backup round. He goes,
• 10:09
  Speaker 4: He goes, I wouldn't do that for a guy's probably
• 10:10
  Speaker 4: not gonna be in your roster after the season, even
• 10:12
  Speaker 4: though it's only eight spots.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, thank you, I'll use that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know this stuff when the guy was bringing
• 10:18
  Speaker 4: because it was almost like the guy knew I was
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: going to ask.
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: He thought I was going to ask him. So, hey,
• 10:22
  Speaker 3: what goes? He let off?
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  Speaker 4: What do you think Cuttinghams thinking about this, I'm like,
• 10:27
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I was wondering, is there someone on
• 10:29
  Speaker 4: the personnel staff? It was here in Philly then coach
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: so yeah, I mean I don't know. I couldn't figure
• 10:37
  Speaker 4: it out. But look, here's the bottom line with Sidney
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: Brown the draft in the third round. Remember when we
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: was drafted, we talked about issues in coverage, more of
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: what's called a low safety box safety.
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  Speaker 3: But based on their tape study, senior ball and projecting.
• 10:54
  Speaker 4: Remember the draft is about projecting, it's not about what
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  Speaker 4: they're going to be now, they really thought he could
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  Speaker 4: play both well. Unfortunately he was making progress. Then the
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: ACL injury against the Giants. Yeah, and then vic if
• 11:08
  Speaker 4: Fangio comes in, essentially it's no use for him. He
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  Speaker 4: just he because in twenty three he that was the
• 11:17
  Speaker 4: the Desai year, which didn't work. Obviously though he was
• 11:19
  Speaker 4: running Fangio's defense, his version of it. Then the real
• 11:23
  Speaker 4: McCoy came in here in twenty four Brown's rehabbing his injury.
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: Uh Vick talked about it. He was just too far behind.
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  Speaker 4: And there's a thing in coaching, man, when when you're
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: out of sight, out of mind, you don't have a
• 11:34
  Speaker 4: chance like that. They just I'm not making excuses for
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: City Brown. He clearly is a is a special teams player,
• 11:40
  Speaker 4: good one. But they didn't draft and play special teams.
• 11:43
  Speaker 4: You don't draft got something around just to play special
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: teams unless you want to get fired. You know, the
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: teams don't do that. I understand why they did it.
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: We talked about at the time. I totally get it.
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  Speaker 4: They just missed on him. That just it happens.
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  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: So Howie Rose had a press conference with the reporters
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: before the Combine, local reporters, right, and he went out
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: of he was talking about the draft, and he made
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: this interesting mention where he said he was really proud
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: of his and his staff's track record over the last
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: I think he said three years of Day one and
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: Day two picks. And he said, I believe we've had
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: seventeen picks and sixteen of them are starters. So the
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  Speaker 1: only one who was not a starter that he was
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  Speaker 1: referring to with Sidney Brown. And so if you look
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: at it in a big picture, you say, everybody's gonna
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: miss every once in a while.
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  Speaker 2: The question I have is there a lesson to be
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  Speaker 2: learned in this miss because they really I don't want to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to kill him too much.
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  Speaker 1: Because I think that what they did was we know
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  Speaker 1: that they've they viewed Sidney Brown as a red star player,
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  Speaker 1: which means the highest of high character. Now, he doesn't
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: play like a high character player all the time. He
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: does a lot of after the whistle stuff. But he
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: is a good guy. There's nothing wrong he's not.
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  Speaker 2: He's good.
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  Speaker 1: Good people like him. And but he played undisciplined. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but he was a good athlete. He's a way better
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: athlete than Reblankaship. But he could never overtake Reblankaship because
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  Speaker 1: he could not fit the defense. He was not disciplined,
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: he was not getting it and did not fit it enough.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess what they realized was that just because
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  Speaker 1: he was a really good athlete, and just because he
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: was a red star player. You think that you tend
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: to give those guys the benefit of the doubt. They
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: will figure out what we want to do. And in
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: this case, it just didn't work. But if you're gonna
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: come back and say, well, sixteen out of seventeen times
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  Speaker 1: it worked, I can't knock you.
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  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: Rarely, yeah, but there is a but no, but there
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  Speaker 3: is a lesson since you brought it up.
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  Speaker 2: The scheme thing right, it will.
• 13:40
  Speaker 4: Box safeties or box safeties. And I brought this up
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  Speaker 4: before when they've drafted Jacon Jarrett. He was the best
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: tackling safety for the draft. So what then he should
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: be a fifth round pick. If he can't cover, he
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: can't go in the first three rounds.
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  Speaker 3: You just can't.
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  Speaker 4: And that that's your super high care person. Off the field,
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: him and his brother are great people. I get all that.
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  Speaker 4: That's great, right, But on the field, Sydney Brown had
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: issues and coverage he just did and and I understand
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  Speaker 4: what they're thinking was it's about projection. That's fine, and
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  Speaker 4: who knows, if he didn't tear the a cl maybe
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  Speaker 4: he could have been that that guy maybe, But that's
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: that set him back because the coach of staff change.
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: That's also context matters. That that definitely that matters.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he moves on.
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  Speaker 4: But yes, I would say if you look at the
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: last three drafts. But we don't you know, last year's draft.
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: Campbell just had another shoulder surgery. We don't know that
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: about that yet. Mccoba got hurt and you gotta you
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: gotta look at in over a three year period. But
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: Mitchell stud de Jean stud Hunt really good about that. Boy,
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: he looks like a great third round pick. He's he's
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: he's got a chance to be a great third round pick. Okay,
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: will Shipley as contributed as the fourth still want more
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  Speaker 4: out of him?
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  Speaker 3: Then? I know.
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: Niah Smith's with him was a miss. This is the
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: twenty four draft trotters contributing as a backup. Kegan missed.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: Wilson's contributed. McMahon was a total miss. Carter, Carter's going
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: to be home run, Nolan Smith, Nymoor out of him,
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: Steen he is starting, Zonney Brown, miss Ringo didn't get
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: enough out of him, only a special teams player. McKee
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: home run for it for a six round pick for
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: his backup Joe home run?
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: How is right?
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: I mean if that's what he said with you guys,
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: Jordan Davis didn't know who was they hit at the time.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's yeah, he was only talking about for day one,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: day two, so don't really.
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's right, I mean in Na Kobe home run,
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: you know what, fair point, I'll give it to him.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: But it's but we have to point out when when
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: they're wrong.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Right right right they thought and and yeah, I'm sure
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: the same thinking like with say, Jaelex Hunt has worked
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: out a good character kid, good athlete. We're all to
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: the position, but it'll translate and it you know, it's
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: it looks like it's translated a lot better with Hunt
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: than it did.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: And by the way, on Hunt, I cannot tell you
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: how many people coaches were front off. The executives, especially
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: coaches are super pissed at their team didn't draft Hunt
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: because they kind of knew it and they kind of
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: let us know privately. And now there they you know,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: through talks with people, they kind of know what happened.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Last year he started to blossom. This is like the
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: worst feeling when you didn't get when either you were fired,
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: like you lost your job you worked for another team,
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: but you taught your general manager or your personal director. Hey, listen,
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: we need to get this guy mcau again. The addressed
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: with map projection. What you brought up, that's you saw
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: it and honestly HAUNTSI. You're ahead of He's basically your
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: ahead right where people thought he'd be anyway.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: So just just to give the real technicalities of it,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: the Eagles get overall pick number one, fourteen and one
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: ninety seven. The Falcons got Sidney Brown one and two fifteen.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Now, one last thing on this.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: If you want to know how badly the desire was
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: for the Eagles to move on from Sidney Brown and
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: actually be able to get something for him, note that
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: at the time of this trade, the Eagles basically had
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Andrew mccooba under contract, and that's about it.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Now they knew they were bringing back. Yeah, we'll get that.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, I'm sorry anybody who's played like meaningful
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: NFL snacks, right, I Mean, it's not like they were
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: so deep at the position that they could give a
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: player away, but they basically did.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: And that's just the reality of the situation.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Now, they did make moves to be able to fortify
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: the position in some regard they bring in They bring
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: back Marcus EPs to a one year deal, and they
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: sign a veteran J. T. Gray, who has been more
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: of a special team he'll replace what Sidney Brown was
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: giving the Eagles on special teams if he makes the team, which.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: He should because they're so thin at the position.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: But not You're still looking at the Eagles defense right now,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Adam thinking, Yeah, yeah, I mean we both we both
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: think Marcus played at a really good level last year
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: when he had to come in there and and be
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: the bridge when when Sidney Brown wasn't the guy. But
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: we also both fel well going into next year, he
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: should be your third safety, not your compliment to Andrew Racuba.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, where where are we now? We're in
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: We're in late March. So and Michael Carter got us.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: You know, he took the pay cut, which we were
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: expecting a huge pay cut. He had to to come back.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Yep, I'm gonna have my eyes on that kid, ad him.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have my eyes on him.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Talkas one who was there at the time when he
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: was drafted with the Jets. Yes, he was a safety
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: there in college. I think Joe Casper was there then
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: at some point he's now the dbast coach. But they
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: thought immediately that he could be a Nickel, an outstanding Nickel, and.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: They, Jody and his people got right the absolute judy.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Ironically, he's not with Eagles, but they they they thought
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: he would transition and he was quickly became one of
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: the better Nichols in the in the NFL.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: And then he kind of fell off for whatever reason.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: And when I saw that money for twenty I left.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: I said, if he's back, will be taking a major shave.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: There's just you can't justify ten point two five million
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: dollars for a backup player, even a starter.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: There's no way.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: But the thing is to move this along. Here he
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: could play backup Nickel and safety. And honestly, right now,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: with as thin as they are here, here's your safety group.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: The aforementioned Epps, Macuba, Carter, Sam G. T. Gray is
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: will not see time on defense. If you see some
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: time defense, something seriously wrong.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: I've put it to Chris Marago's treatment back in Cherry
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: put him in Cherry Hill, put him all the way back.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: To give you an idea how little J. T.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Gray is playing on defense in his career, He's played
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: two thousand, two hundred and thirty one snaps on special teams.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: He's played one fifty three on defense. That's kind of
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: did I just not tell you it's not playing on
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: the defense.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Remember when I said, like five years ago, if Brett
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Toth has to come in and play right tackle against
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: the Ravens, they're in trouble.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Well he had to come player backs, and they were.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: They were in the Ravens game.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Isn't it funny? And then now he's with the Niners.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: But Cosell calls me and goes, hey, we have to
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: talk about Brett toe because we're doing the inside the
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Tape show. I'm like, why, he goes, you cannot believe
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: I'm good. This guy looked, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: second give me and gets the Giants and then he's gone.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: So so yeah, so okay, right now when you look
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: at it, so Grace is going to play on specials
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: as is back third safety.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: You hope he doesn't have to start. If he does,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: you hope it's not the whole season. But he does.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: He knows the scheme, yep. But the needs now are
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: still they're they're dwindling just for this season, like they
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: don't have a lot of them for long term, which
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: will be on another show. They still nothing's changed, but
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: for just this season, they still need someone to replace
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Fred Johnson. They swing back up left tackle, right tackle preferably.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: You know what's interesting, Darren Canard re signed with the Packers.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Came back to the pack They gave him a little
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: bit over two million. I was just looking at his
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: contract the other day. A backup guard slash center. Could
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: use one of those. If they're gonna trade Aj Brown,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: they need another receiver. If now, if AJ's here, which
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: would be surprising, but if he's here, Hollywood Brown and
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: it's five millionaire or third receiver and you got Cooper
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: and they'll be okay. And then edge has not changed.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: They still need a starting edge. M h You know
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: they they because they told you so. They try to
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: get Phillips back. They kind of gave you the answers
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: and then as we said, starting safety next to Macouba.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: So for this season that the needs are down, but
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: there's just saying if you can get upgrade, you get them.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: But you know, we're we're getting close to the draft.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Now there's.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: The the the type of free agents. If you're looking
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: for A level free agents, there aren't many of them.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Agreed, I am looking into my crystal ball. I'm seeing
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: an AJ Brown trade. I'm seeing the Eagles. Eagles taking
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the compensation for that trade, packaging with their first round pick,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: and moving up for Caleb Downs.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Nope, I'm not saying no safety.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Safety. Huh, that would be ironic.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, if they're gonna potentially take a tight end,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: they'll potentially I mean, he's no safety.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: He's in everything.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: He can transform your defense. Uh, and he'd be perfect
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: in a Fangio defense, I'm sure.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Uh. And then all of a sudden you look at
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: the US defense and you've got Coop Caleb.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Downs and will not be playing safety. Then if that happens,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Coop will not be playing safety. He's either gonna be
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: a nickel or a corner.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: With Quill and they'll probably be a nickel again.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, with his twelve million is a corner. So
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: he looks like he's going to be a Nike.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: All yep, yep. So I would think that the kid
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: from the Jets, uh, like Michael Carter.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Can get some looks at safety because at Nicol, you
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: have Coop. You'll have Mack McWilliams back here too. They'll
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: look at him there and they like the kid from
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Oregon who got.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Hurt in the season.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Johnson. Yeah.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he's got to make the t amount
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: all that. But I'm just saying they liked him practicing there.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: But if I recall correctly, Adam, I think they started
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: him at safety when they played in that that's that
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: last game when they rested their starters. I think Brandon
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Johnson actually started that game at safety because he also played.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Oh did hear his knee? That was the game he
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: got hurt his knee? He here?
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, after the game, yeah.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Or ankle whatever? You right, you saw him? Did you
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: see him the locker room?
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I did?
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I did?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: And and crutches yeah all right. Yeah.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: He didn't start the game against the Jetsuits. Actually, Tristan
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: McCollum is Kristin Tristan McCollum.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no season finale, not not preseason. Finally, yeah,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I think he played in the regular Yeah, am I
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: am I mixing that up?
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I thought he did. I could be completely wrong. I
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: talked about against the Commandos, I thought so, am I wrong.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, Michael Carter. You mean Michael Carter, Yes, Michael car right.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: But then I thought Brandon Johnson got in there. But again,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: maybe that was the preseason finale that he played.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Well, no, it's it's it's ironic. Who started with Carter?
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Sidney Brown? Yeah, oh boy, listen to the secondary against Washington.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Uh huh Ringo. Oh, you're right.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: No, they started, they started. You could call it whatever
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: you want, big nicol. They played nickel, but Brandon Johns
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: A good call by you. Johnson did start.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: But I was paying attention. He was not. He was
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: a deep guy.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: He was not like a the big The third safety
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: is usually the box guy or the inside cover guy.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: He was more of like a deep post guy.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was playing natural safety.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is funny. Brandon Johnson was number forty nine
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: with Michael Carter mm hmm, Sidney Brown, Ringo, and Jacreyne Bennett.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, good call. So interesting stuff.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: So there that's another guy who's multi dimensional and we'll
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: get some looks. But obviously he faces an uphill battle.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: But I just wanted to throw his name in there.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. I thought I do have a
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: pretty good memory. I thought I was wrong, but I
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: was right, all right? What else? What else should we
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: look for here over the next few years?
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: There's all right, so they need to get a veteran tackle.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: The good thing is now again they've changed their scheme,
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: so not everybody's gonna be a fit. And Fred Johnson
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: may not be a fit. There's still a lot of
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of journeyman tackles out there. They could
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: the number, the the money is so low right now.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: These guys get just way too closer to the training camp, like,
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: they don't have a lot of leverage right now. It's
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: a it's a it's sort of a buyer's market from
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: a club standpoint, m there are so many backup tackles
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: out there now.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Who fits Chris Cooper and and his.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: His scheme is is a question now the backup center guards,
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: it's been picked over a bit. You know, he's out
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: there and he could play center or guard. I don't
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: know if he's a fit for this this this scheme
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: or not. Is Graham Glasgow.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Okay from the Lions?
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they cut him. He's a roster bonus of five
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: hundre grand they cut him. Yep, they're gonna there they're
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: gonna have. They might have four new starts on their
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: offensive line. That left tackle was cut. Glasgow was cut. Uh,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: so he's out there. I'm looking at guys who could
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: play garden center Liam Mikeenberg, I believe it's still out there,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: formerly a Dolphins, who's the second rounder?
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Well, he would probably fick because I'm guessing he played
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: in the Mike McDaniel outside his own offense.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, Liam Mikeenberg.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Yep, he's drafted by a different GM there of course
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: in Miami, right, Not that this guy would fix Kevin
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Zeitler still at there.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: He's a guard only though.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well he kind of fits any defense
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: because he's played in I mean, any offense because he's
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: played in every every offense.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I know he has. He's been with a bunch of teams.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: But he was with he was with Zeitler was with
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Was he not with the Titans?
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I know?
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: But wasn't he at one point with in Cleveland or No?
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Oh it sounds right Giants. Yeah, yeah, he's out there now.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: The other thing is are these guys wanting to take
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: up because a lot of these guys who think they
• 26:57
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• 27:03
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• 27:07
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• 27:10
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• 27:13
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• 27:16
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• 27:18
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• 27:19
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• 27:23
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  Speaker 2: All right, so that's the offensive line.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Some receiver like you said, if aj Brown still traded,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: they'll need receiver.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I think we're in a holding pattern, oh.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Receiver, Just to give you a real quick idea of
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: the receivers are out there.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not pretty.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Uh well, well, okay, I'm gonna look into Juwan Jennings.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Maybe he wants more money than teams are willing to offer,
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: but this is ridiculous that he is done of a
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: job yet.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that's probably it. He wanted more
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: money even with the forty nine ers last.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I know he thought he's a good backup player. You'd
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: be great three for a team.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Yep, in this offense especially.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but we mentioned Brandon Cooks.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Brandon Cooks like he was shot out of a cannon
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: with Buffalo well and Josh Allen throwing to him.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: But oh boy, did he look great in the playoffs
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  Speaker 4: for Buffalo that I think that Jaguar game, he might
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  Speaker 4: have beaten the Jaguars just by himself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was so good.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, Curtis Samuel was cut. He's a sort of a
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  Speaker 4: movable guy.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of like Curtis Samuel honestly.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's hurt a lot, but he's Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 1: a movable What you just said makes him perfect for
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: this kind of offense, heide.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not a true sloppy you can claim and
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: soil en. You love Keenan Allen, so why.
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  Speaker 2: I just love Keenan Allen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm probably gonna make the whole fame.
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  Speaker 4: So he'd be got to say he still clearly has
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  Speaker 4: something left.
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  Speaker 3: There's no question of something left.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there it's a buyer's market now for clubs.
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  Speaker 4: When you get to week three, agents will say, tons,
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: it's kind of funny for watching us the YouTube cups
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  Speaker 4: in hand, what do we need to do to I
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: love that line and some agents have used it over
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: the years because they don't leverage anymore, you know, right right,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just the way it is.
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  Speaker 3: And then what else is going to tell you? Yet? Nothing?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: The same story on defense, we talked about safety they need,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what they need and still need, and then
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: of course edge.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's there.
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  Speaker 4: Are a lot of safeties out there. The good thing
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: is there are so many safeties out there. It is
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: by far the deepest position deep tackles now been picked over.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Safety is the deepest position in free agency. It's by
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: far deep the deepest. Yep, yeah, there's there's now again.
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  Speaker 4: Fit for fansio defense if they haven't played in it?
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  Speaker 4: Do they fit in here? Because you have to figure
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: it out with mccoub how how are you gonna line
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  Speaker 4: everything up?
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  Speaker 3: But you know, there are a lot of them out there.
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  Speaker 4: It's just a matter of what these guys, you know,
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  Speaker 4: are they willing to take a backup job or do
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: they you know, if they want to definitely start that's
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: you have to because also you got.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: The draft too. Yeah.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Kyle. Kyle Duggar is still available here.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this has been one of those mysteries. Nine months
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: after they signed him to an extension, they're trying to
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: trade him. It's like that's it was a warning sign,
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  Speaker 4: like Okay, you're gonna eat all this guaranteed money.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Yep, Pittsburgh didn't resign him. What's what is wrong with
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: this guy? Like what what happened? He was a stunt.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: He was an absolute stunt.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: For I know, I don't get it. Ployer Wilson, they're
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: a little long in the two.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Donovan Wilson could play. Yeah. Geno Stone, Geno Stone.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Geno Stone signed with fun.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: That okay, I didn't know he sign Oh yeah yeah
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: he signed with the Bills. That's right.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So Taylor Rap got cut by the Bills.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Ashton Davis is still out there, Xavier with travel down,
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: Xavier Woods, who's probably been on five teams. So yeah,
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: they're there's no to me. If if you're the Eagles,
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: obviously they have to add another safety. But they don't
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: have to do this now. They could wait see what
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: happens in the draft.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Is this is this? You know, people have the term
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: draft proof. I'm not a real big fan of it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I understand it, mm hmm.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: But sometimes saying something's draft proof, I mean it's it's
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: to the quality of the player. I mean you could say, oh, yeah,
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: they've addressed all these positions, they don't need to address it,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: and the draft, the draft is about the future. But
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: you also just assuming these guys are really good that
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: they've signed, So why do they become free agents? There's
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: some issue with them that's not MLB free agency? Right,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: there's a reason why. Ninety times out of one hundred,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: there's an issue with the player. Yep, there's injury history,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: age off the field, bad scheme, fit, drafted by another
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: general manager. By the way, sometimes the new the new
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: guys come in the wrong. They should have kept the
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: flier yep, and they screwed up. But we're just saying
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: this is that we give you the reasons why these
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: guys become free there's always a reason. It's not like
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: the club that had them just as they woke up
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: into that, which're gonna come I don't want to, right,
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: it doesn't work that way.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: There's a reason why it has become free.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Something tells me like seven weeks from now on, some
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: like mid May afternoon, Joe Douglas is gonna finally convince
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Howie to just sign Ashton Davis because he drafted in
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: with the Jets.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: It was a big time, big time as a cow.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very good athlete, tracks all that, you know.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Right, But it's like, what is easy a safety? Easy linebacker? Right? Right?
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: But yep, that's that's the way it works.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, they've addressed a lot, spent way more money
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: than free agency this year than he did last year.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: But that's not saying much because they spent twelve million.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well guy for three million, and the rest were
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: like one point two million, one point five million.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: What's six hundred thousand, six hundred thousand for shot Penny?
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: What the hell was that one? That was a weird one?
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: What was it for shot penny?
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Deal in twenty that was six hundred thousand a year,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: where like five guys it's got six hundred thousand dollars.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Except mcmurro who got zero zero.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: That's correct.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: All right, great stuff.
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