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Hyena Dogman, Yee Naaldalooshii & Wendigos with Ryan Paul Tremblay · The Cryptid Huntress

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Well, let's get to the show tonight because I have an amazing researcher here
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in the studio tonight. I am shot that Ryan and I have not done
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shows together already, because he is one of the top cryptozoologists out here in
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the field. He's in the process of writing some books. You guys have
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seen him online. I'm sure I have Ryan Trimblay here in the studio tonight,
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Okay. So we're gonna be talking about some I want to say creatures
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because they're not all cryptods tonight, terrifying creatures and also misunderstood quite a bit
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and confused with other creatures out there. We're going to be talking about the
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wind to go that ye Nal del Lushi, okay, which is kind of
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like a skin walker. Okay, but we're gonna talk get into that tonight,
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as well as dog men Okay, dog men, gugway, were wolves.
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We're going to go there tonight, Okay. So Ryan Trimblay is a
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cryptozoological researcher in Folklores. While the studies tend to focus more on the Windigo.
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You not a luci and dog man. He's well versed in the more
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obscure takes on Sasquatch and is currently working on a duo of books. The
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first is detailing the rich and illustrious history of the Wind to Go. The
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second, the follow up, will focus on the lore and oral traditions behind
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the GHI not a Lucy. He may come off as a skeptic and a
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doubter to son, but guess what we need that in this field, we
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really do. But he's also an experiencer. He's encountered a hyena like dog
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man, well I'm going to say, a creature that some people would categorize
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as a dog man. And he's also had paranormal experiences. So you guys
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please help me. Welcome to the show tonight, Ryan, Paul Trimblay,
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Hey, Ryan, how you do? Oh? And I am so excellent?
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This is this is going to be really a cool show tonight. And
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we're going to be talking about some things that I don't really talk about very
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often because I'm not very well versed on things like the Wind to Go and
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they well they're both confusing topics. I mean, people are confusing them with
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one another all the time. So that's why I'm here to let everyone know
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the differences. Yes, well, okay, well there's with the e not
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not a lushi in particular. Uh, there is like a it's almost like
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there's a cultural aspect to this where we need to I want to know the
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etiquacy of, you know, of talking about it, because I don't like
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disrespecting and things like that, you know, because this is part of it
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is a cultural factor. There's a fat factor to it. Okay, and
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so and and I know that people get upset about that sometimes, right,
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they can be. Yeah, they do. I mean it's it's a Navajo
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nay belief. You know, it's not just a boogey man to them.
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It's something that they're genuinely afraid of and with very good reasons. Oh yeah,
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okay. Well, I want to give a shout out to my friend
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Drewski who is in the chat tonight. He's with cryptid Warfare podcasts, and
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I just saw his comment. I'm going to try to pull that up.
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He's in the chat. I let him know that I was going to have
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you on the show tonight. I just sent him a message and he and
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I actually took a trip with a whole group of people up to Tennessee this
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past year. And we also have William Knighthawk in the chat as well tonight.
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Oh my gosh, we have an all star cast up here in this
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live chat tonight. But Drewski from Cryptid war Fare podcast and I here he
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is and his crew of fielled researchers myself and myself joined their team. We
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went to a place that was known to have skin walkers in the cave.
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Okay, it was actually on land that belonged to the chopp Tak before our
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friend moved on to that property. And uh and we actually, I'm not
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gonna lie, that was a really nail biting experience. It was actually kind
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of scary. Uh. And that's kind of a season field researcher. I
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was not comfortable with that, and I did consult with William Nighthawk, Hey,
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William about that before I went part move. Oh yeah, well,
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I knew that it's not just a physical being, it's a spiritual aspect.
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Yes, very much so, very very much so. And what these are
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is like there's actually a difference. There's like there's almost two different tiers of
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skin walkers. You do have the y net Aduchi, and then you have
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the Anegoti. The antigloci are you know, your more typical shape shifters,
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but the un Aduchi are very very specific in how they operate. Or how
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have you even become a y net Aduchi? Oh oh wow? Okay,
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well it can't be. It can't be a good thing to become one of
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them, Okay, because it seems very dark. I'm going to give you
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a brief, little little synapsess of something that happened to me back when I
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first started doing my big foot field research. I had taken a trip up
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to North Carolina and I was camping out with some elders of the Cherokee up
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there on top of a sacred mountain, and we were taken all around to
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the all around, and I was shown where all the big foot sightings had
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been there. And because when the people that lived there on the reservation were
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when they would have a big foot sighting, they would contact one of the
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gentlemen that I was with, well he was he was a medicine man,
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okay. And there were times where we were up on top of the mountain
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and we were having a lot of paranormal activity from bigfoot noises and sounds,
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and they were telling us, you know, they're big foots at the bottom
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of the mountain. And we were just kind of hanging out in the middle
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of the night, and the genial women stood up and started yelling in a
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very ancient dialect of Cherokee. It wasn't something that I don't he said that
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no one really speaks us anymore. But he started yelling behind us, and
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he was telling me that he told us that it was actually a skin walker.
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And I hate saying that because people get upset when you say that word
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too much, okay, because you're not supposed to say it apparently right,
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But now now, was he trying to scare us? Maybe? But those
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guys didn't play around. Well, I mean, it's not like that Cherokee
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don't have a similar belief. They actually have the raven mocker, and it's
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you know, it's just as held in the same regard as they not a
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DOUCHI. It's just as terrifying, and they fear it just as much as
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a Navajo fear that. Ashi. Oh wow, you know, I thought
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I had a picture of the raven mocker. I did. I didn't pull
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it up tonight. I don't believe they do. Okay. So it was
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it was a scary experience, okay, to save my life is boring?
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Is it's never boring, okay. But he also after that experience, he
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said, he was talking about how this person had been transformed into what he
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called it a skin walker. And he's just explaining to me. And he
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wasn't a man of many words, by the way. He was explaining to
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me that that he had done horrible things to become that. And he said,
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if you wanted me to, I could help you transform into one of
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those. And he said, I don't want He said, I don't think
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you want to. He said, but I could, you know, I
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mean, uh, the practice is to become a ye, not a douche.
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And I hope you don't have any kids listening because it gets very gruesome.
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Okay. So that's warning everybody if you maybe close your ears off for
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mute right now. But what they will do is normally they will brutally murder
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someone they're very very close to you. And it's not just a friend.
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It has to be a lover like a wife, a grandmother, a brother.
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They'll take them out into the desert and they will murder them in the
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most violent way possible. And by doing this, they're actually offering a soul,
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if you will, to the dark magic they're going to soon start to
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learn. So it's a very brutal thing. And sometimes I'll even commit like,
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you know, sleeping with a dead body, you know, and that's
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pretty gross. We'll all have sex with a dead body, and you know,
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they'll do some really perverted things that by society standards, we go,
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wow, that's disgusting. Oh my gosh. Okay, so I wasn't expecting
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that, because this is stuff just like Polly in the chat just said,
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thank you for discussing the topics that no one wants to first time watch her
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from Australia. Thank you Polly for being here. So we hear about the
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horrible things that have to be done in order to become one, but we
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never really hear the details about what that is. I've never even asked.
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I just assumed it was unaliving family member and that was it. No,
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it's usually a very very brutal murder. It's you know, they do it
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in the most violent way possible that they can think of, you know,
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So it's a blood sacrifice, That's what it is. Is. You know,
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there's a lot of blood or power in the blood of the innocent.
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So when you're you know, taking upon yourself to sacrifice somebody, that's putting
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a lot of devotion into the dark arts, it is. It is.
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We talk about blood rituals quite a bit here at the Channel. We talk
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about the relationship with blood that's been spilled, like in battles and war,
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especially the civil wars, the battlefields here down to the South, and ENCRYPTI
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sightings like were wolves and dog men and the Gugway. Okay, so that's
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that's actually something else that I want to talk with you about tonight, or
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the differences between the Gugway and the were wolves and the skin walkers and everything,
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because I think they get kind of meshed together sometimes. Yeah, they
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do, and I've never understood that, you know. I mean, the
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Gugway itself is just totally different from the Naadushi, so I'm not sure how
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they drop in the same category. Yeah, it is. It is kind
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of odd, right, I think it's mostly a lot of times it's the
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Gugway, Okay. The Gugway gets confused with some other other cryptids potentially now
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now that you not, a lushi is not a cryptid, correct, No,
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not at all. I'd say it's more paranormal than it is crypti because
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by definition, a cryptid is an animal that, you know, it's rumored
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to exist or people believe it it exists, but it's not been verified.
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So, you know, a dou shei they start out as a human being,
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you know. So, no, they wouldn't be encrypted, they'd be
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more supernatural or paranormal because of the magic that they use. Oh okay,
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so it's all about Yeah, Jane's in the chat, man, we have
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a great have a great chat going on tonight. We do, we can't.
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We have some of the best And this is great because it's the first
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time I've done a show on a Saturday in a long time. So shout
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out to everybody who's in here tonight. Rock are the real ones, y'all?
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Are the a one day ones, y'all? Okay, Okay. So
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so there's an element of witchcraft, yes, she could say absolutely, yes,
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I mean the you know, do she They practice the dark form of
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the Witchery way. This is what the DNA call their good medicine, the
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Witchery way. And I kind of compare them in a geeky sort of way
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to the Jedi in the Syth, you know, And I'll explain that.
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What I mean is like you have the Shamans, the good shaman that you
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know, they heal their people, they're there to protect them. Those would
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be the Jedi. Okay. Then you get the ones that choose, oh,
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I want to become a ye no douche. They commit murder, they
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commit all these just atrocities against their own tribe. That would be the Syth,
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you know, because they turn to the darker form of it where they
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want to hurt their people. They don't want to protect them, they don't
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want to save them. They deliberately set out to hurt them in any way
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they can't. Oh okay, So kind of help me with the process of
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how you become a Yee not a lucie. Uh. I know you said
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you have to commit some kind of hainous crime, but what is the process
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like? Because you hear about them putting on a pelt of an animal,
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does that pelt come from? Do they actually unlive the animal? Uh?
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Oh okay, yes, And there's meaning behind it and the Denae belief predatory
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animals like coyotes, mountain lions, bears, they're held on a very sacred
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level. Okay, so you know, a doushi. They choose these animals
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as a way to desecrate their own people's religion. It's a way of insulting
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them, giving them the middle finger, essentially. And there's great power in
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the predatory animals, you know. So a coyote, even though we think
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of them as you know, timid little canines, they hold them up as
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tricksters that have you know, great intelligence. So you Netaducchi will select what
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kind of animal or animals they want to become. They'll go out and they'll
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unlive these animals and they'll take the pelt, they'll take the hide, and
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they'll go to one of their caves and it has to be in one of
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their sacred areas, and they'll spend days, even weeks, pouring their magic,
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through chance, through ceremonies into this pelt, and once it's done,
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that's when they can wear it and they'll transform into set animal. Who so
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they actually transform into an animal or do they take on the characteristics strongly,
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you know, like just take on a characteristic but not actually transform. No,
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they become the actual animal. When you actually break down the word the
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net a douche and translate it into English, it means by means of it
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on all fours, he goes. So right there, the name alone is
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telling you that they become the literal animal. So if I was wearing,
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say a coyote pelt, that was my choice, I would transform into the
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said coyote. And they tell you that the only way you're ever going to
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know it to e not a douche is if you trap it. It's going
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to turn back into its human form, or you look at its eyes,
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because in the animal form, the eyes will look very strangely human, they
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won't look animal at all, and very interestingly enough, when they're in their
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human form, their eyes will look animalistic. So there's kind of an error
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in the transformation that happens, you know, So their eyes eyes don't transform
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into the animal eyes when they take on the animal form, but then they'll
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go at and you know, when it turned it into a human, their
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eyes will animal at that point. So there's something going on there that the
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magic isn't perfect. Okay, So I'm going to show you a picture,
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and I'm sure you've seen this before. But but I want your opinion on
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this because you're you're saying that it looks very human like. Now, I
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did show on this a while back, and and this is something that made
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it surrounds around the social media. Uh, there's different kind of backstories of
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this as to it's kind of becomes a great area because some people say this
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is out of Mexico, others states from another maybe the United States or you
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know the UK actually was the UK or Mexico. But this is a creature
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that showed up on a trail cam. Oops, hold on, what do
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you think about that? You know, my first instinct says that it's AI.
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And the reason why I say it's AI is if you look at the
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fingers. Okay, if there's one thing that AI cannot get, correct,
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it is the thing. Okay, let me tell I'm going to take the
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scroller off the bottom serve of the audience can see the fingers on it.
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It is It is odd, right, it is odd. Well, there's
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a backstory to this as well. If let's see if the audience might want
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to hear it. And let's see here here's the face. Okay, it
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looks very humanistic to me. Okay, so this is what this is what
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I found on this animal that was on someone who acted like they knew exactly
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what this was, or they said they did, they did the research on
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it. It says that at a ranch in Osaka, Mexico, a ranch
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foreman took the photo of this being. Many locals claimed it was a thirty
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two year old man. I'm not going to say his name. Let's just
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say Ben Benjamin. It's known that Ben Benjamin is a witch. It made
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a pact with a lower astral being to have the gift of transforming into an
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animal, which in Mexico is known as the nahual now now wall Okay.
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A second source, his former assistant, said that Benjamin had been in contact
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with an extra terrestrial So there's there's like another layer to it, not just
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like him switching into a shape shifted you know, dog man, I guess
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you could say. But it also had extra terrestrial relations to it somehow,
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So it's odd. Well, I mean, almost every tale does, every
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tail does, even the yen alushi also have almost like an extraterrestrial kind of
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element to it because they believe they can travel between dimensions. So you know,
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if they're interdimensional. I mean that would kind of constitute as extraterrestrial in
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a sense. It's not the outer space aliens, but it's a being that
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comes from a different dimension, so to us it would be alien. Oh
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yeah, absolutely. Okay. So, so I've been talking about how I
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believe Bigfoots can be interdimensional and a lot of the cryptids can be interdimensional.
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But then we have to think, like, what does that mean? Okay,
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right? Does it mean that they phase in and out of this reality?
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How do they do that? Well? I believe this is my opinion.
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I think that they're just able to access first natural portals. Okay,
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And so they're just they're walking from one one dimension to the next just by
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walking through a portal. And it's pretty for them as it is for us
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to walk through doors. I mean, if I could do that, I
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would probably try it. I mean I'd be scared I'd end up in some
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really messed up dimension, but I still might try it. No, don't
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try it, trust me. It's uh yeah, my team has encountered what
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we believe to be a portal and it didn't. It's it's a long story,
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but take William with you. Tire rope around his waist and have him
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go in a little bit and just tell them, Hey, if it gets
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bad in there, just tug the rope. William. You know, that's
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that's interesting that you said that, because after the team encountered that portal,
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we had to sit down and actually, and I've got some of my teammates
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in the chat and I what's up, y'all, actually had to sit down
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and come up with a plan for the next time we ever encountered that.
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And it did involve tying a rope around somebody, uh while everyone else pulled
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it or held onto it. And uh, and the conversation got funny because
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the guys were like, well, who has the best health insurance? Who
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who has life insurance? You know? And uh, yeah, I'm a
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mom of a young kid. So I did not volunteer to go back into
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the portal. William go have William? I mean he's telling me, yeah,
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William will do it. Oh my Actually William was very very knowledgeable and
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uh and when it and it came to that our team that was up in
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Tennessee going out and potentially encountering a what we consider to be a skin walker,
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what we were told could be a skin walker and there was uh,
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there was a long story to that that everybody in the community kind of knew
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about the activity that had been on her property. And this was our friend
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Sarah. Her and her husband had moved into a cabin. They had a
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cave about thirty feet from their back door, Okay, and in this cave
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was creepy Ryan, super coold and uh and there there were chickens getting taken
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out of her chicken coop. It seemed to be more sasquatch related, but
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they had a potential dog man sighting there. Yeah. So and the story
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was that some shaman had banished some skin walkers into this cave. Imagine buying
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your home and then finding out that it had been sealed off and there were
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skin walkers in it right thirty feet from your back door. You know,
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I would mind that to a degree, but given my research, I think
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I'd be like, oh, score, oh you would like it. See
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I would not. And and and things were actually that think their house was
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getting hit at night, you know, like slap, kind of like bigfoot
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activity, right, So it was discussed though Jessica is like, when you
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look at the terms skin walker and not a doushi again, there's kind of
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different levels, all right, So when you hear the tribes mentioning you not
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a douche, it's very specific. But when they talk about skin walker's sometimes
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what they mean is extraterrestrials that take on the human form. And I think
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that the term skinwalker picked up all a lot of momentum because of the show
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V Does anybody remember that show where it was the reptilians that used to wear
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the human masks and everything, and they used to eat rats and guinea pigs.
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It kind of became popular because of that, and they confuse the two
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terms e. Not a douche and skin walker, so they kind of put
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them hand in hand when they really shouldn't be. Well, basically, they're
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both shape shifters. Okay, so actually maybe maybe it'd be more appropriate to
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not say skin walker and say shape shifter. Yes, absolutely, Yeah,
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that's a good question. I wouldn't be surprised, Cricketville, I mean basic
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question out. I'm sorry, I don't mean a rupt Can I let me
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read the question because where we have people listening on podcast format as well?
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Cryptoville asked us Ryan feel that there are people from the cryptid community that are
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attempting to become these things. Man, that is interesting, okay, right,
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you know, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody was attempting it. I
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really wouldn't, because you know, you know, Adushi skin Walkers became so
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popular that people think they're cool. You know, they think there's something awesome
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and neat and something you'd want to become. I honestly would not be surprised
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if somebody was trying it. Would I recommend it absolutely not stupidest movie could
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ever do. But there's probably people out there doing that. Yeah, oh
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man, anything for the GRAM. I'm just kidding. I mean, and
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that's that's kind of okay, And that's that's really dangerous because that's kind of
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like it's kind of the age that we're living in right now, is that
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people want to be famous. They want to get their name out there,
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they want to get likes and subscribers, and so they go and they push
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the envelope doing stuff they may not need to do, but it is,
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you know, it is what it is. I don't get though, you
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know that sometimes when you mess with something you don't know, it could be
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extremely dangerous to you. There's no coming back from that sometimes. You know,
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so if it's a dark or a dark magic, you'd be an idiot
25:11
to actually mess around with that. Oh yeah, it would not be smart,
25:15
okay to do things like that. But I mean, I just feel
25:18
like there are there are people, not only I'm going to say the crypto
25:22
community too. I don't know, it could be anybody. There's a lot
25:25
more people out there practicing black magic, yes, than then you could ever
25:29
imagine. I mean, I'm hearing stories all the time. Now I take
25:32
it with a grain of salt, because I can't. I don't believe a
25:34
whole lot that I hear anymore. Okay from yeah, yeah, I have
25:40
to see proof. I mean, I can claim something, but at that
25:42
point it's just a claim. But if they can show me proof of it,
25:45
then I'll be like, okay, I'll take you a little bit more
25:48
seriously exactly. But but you know, but but there are people willing to
25:52
push the boundaries. It's just like when you know, when I used to
25:56
like looking into ghosts before I really got into the Bigfoot research. You know,
26:00
I was really interested we all start somewhere, right, and I went
26:04
really into communicating with the other side, you know, I had my family,
26:08
my brother, my best friends had all passed away and I wanted to
26:14
make sure they were okay. And so you start off there. But there
26:17
are levels to all this, you know, and like the getting into the
26:19
Ouiji boards and all that kind of stuff. It's just there's a fine line,
26:25
you know that you can you can cross and light your life can go
26:27
downhill quick. Mm hmm. Absolutely, you got to be really really careful.
26:32
That's why I tell people, you know, research everything, look into
26:36
everything that you intend to do. It doesn't matter if it's using a Wigi
26:37
board or using you know, one of those boxes to communicate with the ghosts.
26:41
You have to research and know what you're campering with. Yes, you
26:45
just have to know what you're doing. Well. I'm not saying don't do
26:48
it, okay because I have I have an ITC device, Okay, I
26:52
have all that stuff. But I just you just need to know how to
26:55
protect yourself, Okay, just protect yourself. And and that's sometime. I
26:59
mean I do remote you and stuff and I have to and I got people
27:02
in the chat that do it with me. We we know how to protect
27:04
our energy, okay. And mm hm, yes, absolutely, well there
27:11
is something called I think it's called theory and theorythrapy, theory on therapy.
27:15
I think the sycon pronounce it. But that is actually an ability to shape
27:19
shift from a human into an animal. So it's it's not only mythology,
27:26
it's in mythology. But I think a lot of the mythology is real life.
27:30
What do you think. I think a lot of mythology is based on
27:33
things that actually happened in real life. I think it's you know, sometimes
27:37
embellished a little bit. I think there's a little details added. But I
27:40
think what happens with myths is people see these things and then they write about
27:44
them. So there's a kernel of truth every mythology. Oh wow, Oh
27:49
William has an interesting comment. You give part of yourself every time you use
27:53
ceremony of change. Yep. Oh, I mean, how how many times
27:59
can you do this? Because it was my understanding that once you shape shift,
28:03
if you do become the ye, not a Lushi, that that type
28:07
of a ceremony that you do, it's you don't live long after you do
28:11
that. That was my understanding. Is that true? You know? Within
28:15
the Nay they say that they live for a very long time. They'll be
28:18
around long enough to create five generations of bad medicine. So whatever it is
28:22
that's powering them kind of gives them an extended life where they can stick around
28:26
for five solid generations. Think about how long that is. You know,
28:30
that's five lifetimes. So they have five lifetimes to create their bad medicine and
28:34
really mess with their own people. Oh my gosh, Well that means that
28:38
you're they're reproducing and stuff too. If they're still passing it down generation after
28:44
generation, what does that do to future generations? Well, really, with
28:48
them, it's more like they have to choose to become one. It's not
28:51
going to be something that's handed down on a genetic level. It's something that
28:55
like say, you know, Yushi has a son, that son has to
28:57
decide if he wants to dedicate himself to this or not. But in most
29:00
cases, they're exiled from their tribe, so meeting another person from their tribe
29:06
just doesn't happen. Unless you know the tribal members are coming out to kill
29:08
them. Then that's they're going to see tribal members then, But other than
29:11
that, their own tribe will actually try to stay away from them. Oh
29:15
wow, Okay, And so I have so many questions. Okay. So
29:19
also like when whenever a person turns and they start becoming an animal, is
29:26
there like a group of them or is it just like a solo mission?
29:29
I mean, like, how does that work? There's stories of them operating
29:33
in groups, you know that, you know, there's they'll operate in a
29:37
little plan of their own, and they believe that the higher the number of
29:40
them, the stronger their powers are. You know. It's that strength and
29:42
numbers kind of deal. You know. So you'll hear stories of groups of
29:47
them, but most of the time you hear just one or two at a
29:48
time. I think they get kind of competitive. I would imagine it would
29:52
anyway, Like you know, one would be like, I'm more powerful than
29:55
you. No, I'm more powerful than you. Now, oh I'm older
29:56
than you. You know. So I think they usually operate. So okay,
30:00
So now now we're going to talk about the crossover between the un out
30:04
of Luche and were wolves and dogmen. Okay, because I want to pick
30:11
your brain a little bit on this as to when people see what they consider
30:15
to be a dog man, could that be a uen out a Luche?
30:19
No, not really, because like when you go back to the name,
30:22
the definition of the name, it means by the means of it on all
30:26
fours he goes. So they tell you that they turn into the animal,
30:29
not a bipedal version, not something that just has the features of it,
30:32
but they turn into the actual animal. I think that dog man is something
30:36
entirely unto themselves. Okay, I do too, Yeah, dog I think
30:40
dog man are their own, their own breed. Okay, they're their own
30:44
species. Uh. Not to be confused with sasquatch either, Okay, but
30:48
okay, Oh, here's another question. Okay, because there's that that age
30:52
old debate now too of were wolf versus dog man. Okay, and some
30:56
people think that they clump in, like where wolf, gugweight, and dog
30:59
man all time together. But I think they're all different. What do you
31:03
think I do too. I mean, unless we see a dog man change
31:06
from a man into said dog man and back again, we can't really constitute
31:11
it as a were wolf because the term werewolf means that it's a human that
31:15
changes into that creature. So I mean I can kind of see the confusion
31:18
because you know, dog men look like were wolves, so you know,
31:22
it kind of works but we don't ever see a dog man change into a
31:25
human being, So I don't know. It's a very slippery slope to get
31:29
on. It is it is. Yes, you are incredibly knowledgeable about the
31:34
subject. You are, absolutely I appreciate it. Well, you you have
31:40
actually had your own dog man encounter potentially. Can you tell me about that?
31:45
Yeah? Sure. So a buddy of mine and his wife they decided
31:48
one October they're going to go on vacation, and they asked me to watch
31:52
your house forem And I was gonna be that good friend, and I said,
31:55
sure, you know, definitely. So I was making a morning check
31:59
up, afternoon check up, nighttime checkup. Midnight was the last time I'd
32:02
go per day. So on this particular night, I went about midnight and
32:06
I noticed, as I'm going to his house that the coyotes around me sound
32:09
really, really nervous. It's not their usual hunting cries, it's not just
32:14
their howls to communicate. They sounded jittery, very very nervous. But I
32:17
just kind of blew it off for some reason. I don't know why.
32:21
But as I'm walking to the side of his house, because his house was
32:23
like this, and you had to go to the side to go into the
32:25
backyard. As I'm walking, I know it's just a really bad smell in
32:29
the air. It smelled like feces, urine, body odor, and rotted
32:34
meat all clumped together into one rantsid' smell, you know. So I'm sitting
32:37
there just like, oh man, this stinks. But I assumed it was
32:39
roadkill, okay. I thought maybe there was something dead in the river bed
32:43
or there was road kill somewhere, so I didn't really pay it much mind.
32:46
But as I'm walking back there kind of felt a little weird at first,
32:50
but I kept going back, going back, I hear a deep growl.
32:53
And you know, I'm only five ten, so when you hear a
32:57
deep growl, you kind of puff up like a little puffer fish. You're
32:59
trying to be you're really bad, but you know, and I'm like,
33:01
hey, I'm trying to scare whatever's out there. So it goes quiet for
33:05
a minute. So I keep walking back, and as I'm walking closer to
33:08
the backyard, there's another growl, but this time I can feel the growl
33:13
in my chest, like it's vibrating my bones. It's even hitting my lungs
33:15
and everything so I'm going, oh my god, you know, is this
33:19
a bear? Is this a mountain lion? You know? And so I'm
33:22
proceeding cost less, hitting into the backyard. And as I get into the
33:23
backyard, I see something moving in the shadows. Now, I'm sure everybody
33:28
in the chat you know how when there's something in the shadows, you can
33:30
kind of see shadows on top of shadows, and something solid it will be
33:34
more of a darker color, so you can kind of see it moving around.
33:37
I saw something I saw. I thought maybe it was a homeless guy,
33:39
because we have a lot of homeless people that used to hang out in
33:43
the riverbeds. So again, you know, I'm puffing up, trying to
33:45
scare off whoever's in my friend's backyard, and I'm hey, and there's another
33:50
deep growl. And as this growl happens, the security lights kick on and
33:54
all I see at first are these glowing amber eyes looking right at me,
33:59
and they're like this big, you know, and they got a good distance
34:02
between them. So I'm kind of going, what the hell is that?
34:06
And when my brain finally kicks in, I see this hyena face looking right
34:10
back at me, you know, So I just kind of froze because you
34:14
don't have hyenas in Arizona, So why is there a hyaena here? And
34:17
this thing is staring at me? And I'm staring at it. So I'm
34:21
deviating my eyes away from me because i know my brothers are hunters, and
34:23
you know, the worst thing you can do stare any predatory animal in the
34:27
eyes. You just don't want to do it. So I'm trying to divert
34:30
my attention. And this thing it charges forward on all fours and it stops
34:34
on the dime. Now he's about fifteen feet away from me. Fifteen feet
34:37
Jessica is not that far. And as he's standing there, he actually stands
34:43
up, slowly, reaches up and he grabs a branch. He's just kind
34:45
of like hanging there and he's staring at me. I can see his head
34:49
going side to side. His ears are going up and down, up and
34:52
down, up and down, and he's got his gaze locked right on me,
34:54
like he knows I'm there, and he's not letting me go. So
34:58
he's just staring at me, and I'm staring at him him, and I'm
35:00
not sure how much time passed. It seemed like an hour or whatever,
35:04
But it was only minutes. I think. He turns his back, and
35:06
as he's turning his back, he kind of glances over his shoulder at me,
35:08
and I see him just going down, going down, going down.
35:12
He disappears down the hill. And that's when I got rockets in my shoes.
35:15
Man. I ran up the stairs of my friend's house, got into
35:17
his house. I'm locking his doors, I'm bolting his windows, I'm pulling
35:21
out his drawers, grabbing every knife that I can, and I call my
35:23
buddy and I tell him, hey, man, there's something you didn't tell
35:27
me. There was a hyena in your backyard. And my friend, of
35:30
course, thinks I'm crazy. He's like, wait a minute, hyaena in
35:32
the backyard. There's no hyenas in Arizona. Ryet. He comes home next
35:37
morning, we go into his backyard. You can see where this thing was
35:39
standing, Jessica. You could see the claw marks in the sand. You
35:43
can see where it charged, where it stopped, and you can see where
35:45
it went down the hill. So my friend leave me right there. That's
35:49
when I had my dog manic experience. Oh my gosh, Okay, so
35:53
I hear about these dog man type hyaenas or the hyena type dog mans.
35:59
He's massed that background. Yeah, the type two, the type two.
36:02
Oh okay, well I just happened to have a chart here, Okay,
36:07
if anybody is wondering, I do believe I got this from the North American
36:10
dog Man Project website at one point, and so it is. It's canine
36:15
variant too, But that is that's one of the scariest ones I think you
36:19
could encounter, Ryan, Oh, absolutely, I mean hyenismselves are terrifying because
36:22
they have the most powerful jaws really, so they can crush your bones with
36:27
a single bite. To see a bipedal one, you know, what could
36:30
that thing? Do? You know? That's very close to what I saw
36:32
Actually right there, it's lanky, just like it was. Yeah, that's
36:37
exactly it. Well, you know, I hear that a lot when it
36:42
comes to dog man is they actually look more lanky than solid, like girthy
36:45
and massive. A lot of times it's kind of a mixed bag. Actually,
36:49
I think it's like half and half, But a lot of times they're
36:52
just super lanky. Now I did I also found this picture that one looks
36:54
a little bit more daunting. That's a big note for me. That's all
37:00
kinds of notes. It's like, no, yeah, I don't know about
37:04
that one. But okay, so you said that it actually it stood on
37:07
two legs and it reached for a branch and it held it so that it
37:10
had hands. Did you see his hands. Yeah, it raccoon hands.
37:15
You know how they have the slender fingers and then like they kind of bub
37:17
out a little bit here, But yeah, he had the slender fingers that
37:20
weren't really really long. He just kind of reached up and he was just
37:22
kind of holding onto the branch and almost like he was trying to be cool
37:25
or something. I don't know, kind of like you know, what's up.
37:28
But oh my gosh. So so it it charged at you, it
37:32
stopped. Why do you think it stopped because I think it realized I wasn't
37:36
going to draw a weapon and I wasn't going to run. I think it
37:38
was testing me to see what I was going to do. Now. Had
37:40
I run, I think that would have been a big mistake on my part
37:44
because it would have been like, ooh, a prey that has some uh
37:46
some game to it. It wants to try to play a little game with
37:49
me. So the fact that I stood there. I think it was kind
37:52
of like, you know, so you're not going to run, you don't
37:53
have a weapon. What do we do here? I think he was as
37:55
confused as I was. Wow, do you think, Oh my gosh,
38:01
I have I have like a million questions going through my head right now.
38:06
Had there been any other sightings in your area of anything that looked like that
38:09
before? Had you heard any request? Actually, this gets really cool,
38:14
Jessica. I think a lot of people in the audience are gonna love this.
38:15
So sometime after that I had my encounter, I started looking around the
38:21
small town where I lived, you know, I started doing investigations nearly every
38:24
day. And one day I was down in a river bed and we had
38:29
cliffs on both sides, right, so you're pretty much closed in, and
38:32
I'm just, you know, following the river bed and it leads to this
38:35
big open area and to my left though, there was a mound that was
38:38
made from dirt and clay where it was really high up, maybe about five
38:43
six feet up, and right in the middle was a silver platter full of
38:46
exotic fruits like kiwis, pineapples, things like that. So it was really
38:51
weird though to find this silver platter out in the middle of the desert.
38:53
Why was it there? You know, that wasn't for havolinas or coyotes.
38:58
So I went back a couple of weeks later and it was replaced. There
39:01
was more fresh fruit there. So I left a note. I asked people,
39:05
what are you feeding? Is it to have alina or what? Went
39:07
back about a week later and where my note was there was a drawing and
39:12
they said we're feeding these and they drew a bipedal hyena. Yeah, so
39:17
it's a bomber, Yeah it was. It was it was vegetarian. At
39:24
the bottom of the note, they said, there's more than one. Be
39:27
careful. So somebody else in that town was not just seeing these things,
39:30
Jessica, they were feeding them. Well that's the problem right there. They
39:35
were feeding them, right yeah, Okay, that's the problem. That's why
39:40
I do know. I don't I don't recommend feeding the cryptids and the big
39:45
butts and the dog men because then you got a problem on your hands,
39:50
okay, because they're going to expect that food. Maybe that's what the problem
39:52
was. When I had my dog man encounter, he saw me and he's
39:55
like, so, where's my grub. Where's my dinner? Oh you didn't
39:58
bring anything? Okay, he wanted you to serve him on a silver platter.
40:02
Oh my gosh. I couldn't do it because I had no idea what
40:07
I was looking at. I was kind of like, okay, you don't
40:09
belong your good sir or maam or maam. It could be a dog,
40:15
a dog hanging a woman too. Probably. Wow, okay, that that
40:22
is a fantastic story. So there's it had set the president of there being
40:25
them there. Okay, you see you saw it for yourself. Have there
40:30
been any unspecified animal attacks where you live? Yeah? Yeah, there was
40:35
people losing their smaller dogs. The smaller dogs seem to be the target of
40:38
whatever was doing this, And most people said it was a mountain lion.
40:42
But in the small town that we lived in, though, it's like,
40:45
no, we would see the mountain lion because people are on the lookout for
40:47
this, so it's something that they're not quite looking for. It's not something
40:52
they're familiar with. Yeah, okay, well, wow, where where do
40:58
you think these things are coming from? Now? Somebody the audience did just
41:00
put up a comment saying that it's a government experiment. Do you think that
41:05
these could be a government experient experiment or do you think that they are more
41:09
natural? I think you have the natural ones, and I think you have
41:14
the ones that they might have tampered with, because I mean sightings of dog
41:17
Man go way back to what eighteen eighty seven, and that's long before we
41:21
had the ability to even splice and create things like that. So I think
41:25
you have the natural ones and you probably have the ones that you know we're
41:28
tampered with. So there's different categories. Yeah, that's good. That's a
41:32
good answer, because that's I mean I could see that being that way.
41:37
You know, people ask me all the time, like are bigfoots, you
41:39
know, ancient beings or do they come from outer space? Are they from
41:43
Inner Earth? Are they are they natural? Are they an experiment? Well?
41:47
I think I think there's a mix. Okay, I think there's a
41:51
mix. Is where they come from. I mean I've heard stories of the
41:55
dogmen. You know, I had Jodie Cook on my show a while back,
41:58
and he was talking about get taken a report where some are seeing coming
42:01
out of a spacecraft dogmen. Yeah we're coming. Yeah a lot. You've
42:07
been with Bigfoot. You're the alien connection too. Well, yeah, we
42:12
we we have that on our team, uh, my field research team.
42:15
We have been countered whenever there's like bigfoot activity. A lot of times there's
42:19
et activity in the environment. Yeah. See, it makes you wonder,
42:22
you know, you have to look into that and you have to you know,
42:24
maybe have an open mind with it, not just announce it. Oh
42:29
yeah, you gotta have an open mind because there's you're never gonna know what
42:32
you're gonna get when you go out in wood. That's true. Yeah,
42:37
you know. Uh and yeah, that's that's why I thought it was really
42:40
cool. I wanted to talk to you a little bit about that, the
42:43
whole getting the Gugway mixed up with the dog men and the wear wolves and
42:46
the Sasquatch and everything because in skin walkers as well, skin walkers versus wear
42:52
wolves and all that just because it does, it does kind of they all
42:55
kind of blend together at some point. Yeah. Well, thing interesting about
43:00
the Gugwee though, is if people were to look at the origin of the
43:04
name. Okay, the gug Weee is derived from the mcmac legend to Gogau,
43:07
which was a basket ogress. She was a big hairy woman that used
43:13
to roam the countryside, grabbing kids that were out past their bedtime and putting
43:16
them in her basket to take them back to where cave and eat. So
43:21
it's kind of weird that we arrived from Google to Gugwee. People change the
43:24
actual meaning to it. I think Gugwee is actually something else. I think
43:29
it's a type of bigfoot that we nemed incorrectly, you know, And it's
43:32
more bab boon, it's more mandral like. So I don't think it should
43:36
be confused with dog man either. Okay, oh wow, we have a
43:40
story of the witch down here in the appellation about spear Finger. Brought her
43:45
up again. I always bring it. And she's a terrifying shape shifter actually
43:53
in the mountains, and she she targets children. A lot of a lot
43:58
of these things target children. And so of the you not a loose she
44:02
as well, don't to become one. Don't they hurt children too? Uh?
44:07
Yeah? They can. That can be part of the ritual. And
44:09
what that is is that that's the bruising of innocence, that's taking away the
44:14
innocence that a child has, you know, I mean, that's a very
44:16
big offense. If it's not your kid, you know you're going to find
44:20
that disgusting. So when they know a Lushi do it, you know,
44:22
that's just you know, their way of going, Hey, I'm trying to
44:24
be a jerk. Did I make you angry? Oh? Good, I
44:28
did? Oh my gosh, yeah, it's wow. Okay. Well,
44:35
a lot of a lot of these stories that we hear about too are almost
44:37
like cautionary tales, like for to keep the kids out of the woods and
44:42
things like that too. So but there's there's so much truth and there's some
44:47
realness behind a lot of these creatures out there, like even with even with
44:53
spear Finger, I mean, I think that she might not be in this
44:57
three dimensional reality all the time, but there's some sort of of like and
45:00
I know we brought up interdimensional interdimensional beings and things like that, but there's
45:05
there's also I think that you can encounter these things out there. I think
45:07
that my team has oh yeah, I mean I think the land has energies,
45:12
okay, and I think those energies don't forget energy can't be destroyed.
45:15
So I think you know, things that look make spirits or you know,
45:19
ghostly beings. They could very well exist. Oh yeah, for sure.
45:22
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since we've been on the air tonight. This is so great. Thank you
45:30
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45:34
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45:37
And Jennifer Patterson, Oh my gosh, you're amazing. I just sent you
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45:49
Our chat is off the chain tonight. Man. We've got a lot
45:52
of people in here, and so this is amazing. This is a lot
45:55
of fun tonight. I know I'm having a lot of fun because you and
45:59
I this Ryan, right, But it's a dark subject. Okay, it's
46:04
a dark ye. There's times that I'm doing my researcher on the window go
46:08
and the not douc. I'll sit, They're going, Ryan, what is
46:10
wrong with you? Man? But then I got to remember, you know,
46:14
people want to know, so I know, well people people need to
46:17
know because I like to put the information out there to let people know what
46:23
the dangers are because as a field researcher, I encounter a lot of danger
46:30
out in the field, and I talk about missing people for instance, Okay,
46:35
and uh, and there are a lot of these missing people are going
46:37
missing at a national parks. Uh, they're being right. They just disappeared
46:42
in the thin air. And uh. I mean they could be getting taken
46:45
by the g not a loosie, the skin walkers, the shape shifters.
46:49
I mean it could be. It could be on a level of people going
46:52
missing from because of them as well. Right, I mean it's near the
46:57
Four Secret Mountains. I think it's a probability because I mean Sacred Mountains.
47:00
The Four Sacred Mountains are something that the ye not to do she need.
47:04
And if you're not familiar with the story of the Four Sacred Mountains, there's
47:07
actually six mountain ranges, but the four of them are the Sacred Ones.
47:10
And the Dnee believe that their creator gave them this land. It gifted them
47:15
this land, so it's got a lot of you know, religious energy for
47:20
them. This is where they go and they do their important chance, where
47:22
they have their ceremonies, where sometimes weddings are you know, things of positivity
47:27
will take place. But the y Nawa Douchi, they use the Four Sacred
47:30
Mountains as a way of sacrilege. You know, they're kind of going,
47:32
oh well, our creator gave it to us for positive, let's use it
47:37
for the opposite. So if it's within the four Sacred Mountain ranges, I
47:39
could see some missing for one, one being skinwalkers. Oh yeah. I
47:44
mean I think that there are so many facets to where these missing people are
47:47
going. And it does include cryptids, it does, it absolutely does.
47:52
I think it has a lot to do with portals. You know, people
47:55
just walking walking through a portal, they think that they're still on the trail,
47:59
but it's just off a tiny bit, right. I think that's what
48:04
happened accident to some people fall off clips or take a tumble somewhere. Oh
48:09
yeah, for sure. Now I want to I want to hit on one
48:13
more creature tonight. Okay, we have to talk about the Wind to Go,
48:17
because that's something that I I think I was I was talking with Da
48:22
Roberts about this on my show and we were talking about skin walkers and I
48:24
brought up the Wind to Go and he was like, you should talk to
48:28
Ryan Paul Tremblay about this, and uh and here we are, here we
48:32
are tonight. Let's talk about the window go because I don't. I haven't
48:37
done a ton of research on it because I've never encountered one. However,
48:40
I was invited to Maine this year at some point. I can't say when,
48:45
but I was invited to Maine to potentially go hunt for a skin I
48:49
mean, not a skin walker. A wind to go, A wind to
48:51
go? Tell me, tell me what you know, all right? So
48:54
what the Wind to Go is? It is an entity that is believed in
48:58
by the creed, the Algonquin and Ojibwe people. And what she does is
49:02
once an individual or a group of people break certain cultural taboos, the most
49:07
popular one being cannibalism, the act of a human eating a human, then
49:12
he or she can become possessed by the when to Go. But what people
49:16
don't realize is cannibalism isn't the only way somebody can become a when to Go
49:22
by getting cursed by a shaman. So if you do a shaman wrong,
49:24
a shaman can put the when to Go curse on you and nightmares. They
49:29
can actually have nightmares of the when to go and through the dreams, the
49:32
whend to go will influence that person to build them up to become a worthy
49:37
vessel for the entity. Now, the most popular when to go case,
49:40
and I'm sure some people have heard about it, is the case of swift
49:44
Runner, the Cree fur trader in eighteen seventy eight who murdered his entire family.
49:50
Oh okay, I did come across that story when I was researching What's
49:54
the deal with the Hat? I mean so yeah, In the winter of
50:00
eighteen seventy eight, the swift Runner took his family along the hunting trail that
50:06
he usually went on, Okay, and they stayed at Fort Saskatchewan in Canada.
50:09
But you know, they they went upon this trail many times, and
50:13
he was an experienced hunter. He knew what he was doing. And he
50:15
stayed at the cabin, which was a good distance away from the fort.
50:19
And he was gone about three weeks and he came back and they noticed his
50:22
family wasn't there. Now, he told everybody around the town and the fort
50:29
that food was scarce, that you know, they were starving and things had
50:31
grown really bleak. But people noticed he wasn't any thinner. He had actually
50:36
looked like he had gained weight, and as he started drinking, he got
50:40
more loocilst he started telling the story, more and more he admitted he cannibalized
50:45
his family. So the magistrates arrested him. They led him back to the
50:50
cabin. Sure enough, when they got to his family's cabin, there was
50:53
the human fat. He had put it on his hands. He had smeared
50:57
it on the walls and smeared it on the trees. There was bones everywhere,
51:00
and they saw the femurs, the leg bones. He had cracked them
51:04
open and sucked out the marrow. He even showed the skulls how he had
51:07
cracked the skulls open to get the brains, and very nonchalantly, he would
51:13
walk over to one of the skulls and take his two fingers and put him
51:15
through the eye sockets, kind of waggle him about, and he'd be like,
51:17
oh, this was my wife, this was my mother in law.
51:21
And then he just throw them aside, and he told the story of how
51:24
he killed the infant son. He hung him from a pole. He had
51:28
a noose around his neck, and he would pull on the baby's legs to
51:30
make him squirm and scream until he suffocated and then he pa sit upon his
51:36
beat ew. That is the worst of the worst, right there. That's
51:40
the worst of the worst. That's disgusting. I mean, you have to
51:45
be out that right. It gets more interesting too. When they arrested him,
51:51
there was a certain guard that would come in to check on him to
51:53
make sure he was okay. And he was a short, stout guard.
51:57
You know, he had some meat on his bones. Every time he went
51:59
to check on swift Runner, swift Runner would kind of eye him up and
52:02
down and he would tell him, you have this much fat on your book.
52:07
So he was contemplating eating the guard. But the right interesting enough,
52:15
they based hand able elector off the wind to go, oh my god,
52:21
yeah, okay, wow, okay, that is that is wild. I
52:24
knew that it was a cannibalistic type of a creature. By the way,
52:29
this is for entertainment purposes only, tonight, crowd, Okay, it is
52:34
entertainment and educational purposes because I'm learning. I know, I know my audience
52:37
is learning as well tonight. And maybe this is why I have not covered
52:42
this before, because it is kind of dark. Uh as if dog man
52:46
attacking people or is not dark enough you know, but but this is this
52:51
is pretty dark. But but it's also this is like kind of we're talking
52:55
about real life situations here and stuff, you know, and there are dangers
53:00
out there, yeah, and we need to discuss it. There are sick
53:04
people out there. Yeah. So the story of swift Runner, though,
53:07
it's even more interesting because to this day, nobody knows where he was buried.
53:13
Okay, there's different stories that his body was burned. There's stories that
53:16
his tribe quartered his body up and separated his body parts and buried it in
53:21
different parts of the land. Oh my god, Oh my gosh. Okay,
53:27
well, we did have a question, and I took it down by
53:30
accident. Just then, let's see if I can find it. It was
53:32
from Cryptidville. Hold on one second, I'm gonna try to find it in
53:35
here. It was, Yeah, Cryptoville is in the chat. Deny,
53:39
what's that Cryptoville? Okay, chat? But yeah, it was Cryptoville.
53:45
I might have I went past it. If I can find it, I'll
53:49
pull it up my computers. Here it is, okay. Does Ryan feel
53:57
that the physical hunger can be replaced with the hunger for notoriety, fame,
54:01
or other bad things? Wow, that's a really good question. I think
54:07
it depends on what you mean. I don't know. I think that the
54:09
physical hunger will always be there, but I do think that that hunger for
54:14
notoriety and fame can really become overwhelming for some people, and they'll do certain
54:17
things that they shouldn't do in order to associate that hunger. Oh yeah,
54:22
man, that's that could be a scary thing, that could be very dangerous,
54:25
actually be a terrible, terrible thing. Yes, it can, it
54:30
can. That's interesting. Well, it's almost like there's a what did I
54:36
say earlier about the cautionary tale? You know, it's like another cautionary tale
54:40
for fame and reed and gluttony and all that kind of stuff, all the
54:45
deadly sins, a lot of them. So I'll into one creature. Now,
54:51
is this a cryptid No, I'd say this is more of a supernatural
54:54
entity because it's a I guess, like in our modern day terms, we
54:58
would call it a demon. I mean, it's an entity that comes in
55:00
and it possesses a human being. But it's interesting that it's only present during
55:05
the winter, you know, I mean, so it's like a I guess
55:07
it would be an elemental even I don't know if you would consider that a
55:10
demon. Okay, why is the only present during the wintertime? Is there
55:15
a reason? I think that's because that's when the fear grows so strong,
55:21
because you know, back in the day when starvation was so common, it
55:24
was strongest during the winter. You know, that's when food was scarce and
55:28
people were desperate, and that's when the fear of the wind to go hits
55:31
that all time high. Oh wow, that wight makes sense because the lands
55:37
are barren, there's nothing growing. And uh and if you didn't if you
55:40
didn't stock up for winter, you're screwed, right, Yeah, you were
55:44
in a lot of trouble. So you are. You are? Oh my
55:47
gosh, addicted to knowledge thirty nine. Thank you so much for that supersticker.
55:51
I appreciate that very much. That's very sweet. Wow. Okay,
55:55
So do you recommend that I do go on this trip to go hunt a
55:59
wind to go? Do you think I should stay home? You No,
56:02
I would go. Personally, I would go, but I would get some
56:06
protection. Okay. And it's gonna sound really funny, and I hope nobody
56:09
laughs at that's what you probably will bring A beef tallow. Okay, beef
56:14
tallow is what was used back in the day to prevent the change into a
56:17
wind to go. Why that was used because when it heated it up,
56:21
it would melt the heart of ice that was the wind to go, So
56:24
it was fighting the hunger and it was fighting the cold heart that the wind
56:28
to Go has. So you were kind of stopping the transformation. But bring
56:32
beef tallow with you. Try to get some silver. It has to be
56:36
pure silver though it can't be that plated silver. Maybe contact William Nighthawk and
56:40
get some white ash because that's very important stopping a wind to go, and
56:45
get a blessing from William too. You can surround you some positive energy before
56:51
you go there. I'd be really really careful though. Okay, I'll be
56:54
contacting William for sure. William's in the chat tonight, So thank you for
56:59
being here William tonight. Now is this okay? So it sounds like a
57:02
white walker out of the game, is it Game of Thrones? Is that
57:06
the show almost like a white Walker? Yeah? They kind of base the
57:10
white Walkers on the Wind to Go, and you know, I mean the
57:14
way they look, the way they're all emaciated, and all pale skin.
57:17
That's pretty close that picture. Yeah, that's that's the wind to Go.
57:21
That's what you would look like if you became a one to Go. You
57:22
actually end up chewing up your own lips and chewing your fingertips because you're always
57:27
hungry. And with a Wind to Go, they can eat a victim and
57:31
they're hungry for another one. So the more they eat, the hungrier they
57:35
get. They're constantly starving for human flesh. They're never satiated. Oh my
57:39
gosh, I love this show tonight. This is so cool. Okay,
57:44
because when I think of a wind to Go, I'm always thinking of something
57:45
that's like almost like zombie like that's wearing a skull of another animal, or
57:51
like with antlers. Is that not what they look like? I guess,
57:55
well no, where that comes from is there's the what you get, which
58:00
is another belief, and it's similar to a wind togo and those are usually
58:05
the picted having horns like that. But in Algernon Blackwood's book that he wrote,
58:08
One to Go, he drew pictures of the wind to Go, and
58:10
people misinterpret it as antlers. It wasn't antlers, it was branches. Because
58:15
the Wendigill will use forest debris to camouflage itself. Oh okay, all right,
58:22
well that makes sense. Okay, so actually it's way more scary than
58:28
I thought, is what you're saying. Yeah, that picture right there,
58:31
I would ever want to see that in the winter. I'd just be like
58:35
nope, Oh my gosh, me neither. Okay, well, yeah,
58:40
wow, this has been just wild and fantastic. It's almost like a zombie.
58:45
I know, Robin's in the chat she says, it looks like a
58:49
zombie. Yeah, I mean that's pet cemetery. Stephen King had the mc
58:54
mac burial ground, and the cause of the people coming back from the dead
59:00
was the wind to go really okay, well they say, okay, so
59:04
white walkers from like the Game of Thrones, right, but then we have
59:08
the walkers on Walking Dead that show, so they're called the walkers. It
59:14
could be like white walkers they made them because they're not called zombies, they're
59:16
called walkers, right right. There's a connection there, huh maybe? Oh
59:22
yeah, yeah, see how there's everything's connected. That's why I tell everybody
59:25
you got to look carefully because there's a little strings everywhere and you get to
59:29
pull on those strings, and you know, find out that those strings are
59:31
connected to one thing, then another, then another than another. Yeah,
59:36
they are, but they're all they are just so connected. And I've never
59:39
I've never really looked into the wind to go that much. And the the
59:44
ye not a lushi. And you know, I've I've talked about skin walkers
59:46
quite a bit, but it's really just like shape shifters that I've been been
59:51
talking about, and it just it crosses all the different I want to say,
59:54
species or you know and stuff. Right, So, wow, what
1:00:00
an informative conversation we've had tonight. Absolutely informative. I mean, no,
1:00:06
thank you for being here. Now, we did cover the dog in the
1:00:10
interdimensional dog man? Right? Did we talk about that since we've been on
1:00:14
erics? We talked about it before? Never? No, But you know
1:00:16
what, that's interesting you bring it up though, because, uh, the
1:00:20
Cherokee have a belief I don't know if anybody's ever heard of the Ulanga Dogalla
1:00:23
and it's a dog man creature. So and they talk about it. The
1:00:28
name means spirit with knife teeth. Okay, so when you hear the term
1:00:31
spirit, don't you think that could be an interdimensional creature that they see as
1:00:35
solid one minute and then all of a sudden he just kind of dissipates and
1:00:37
disappears. Yes, So that right there, I got to wonder if maybe
1:00:42
dog Man are interdimensional and that's why we hear stories of hunters shooting at them
1:00:46
and the bullets having no effects. That could be why we find no bodies
1:00:50
and no scat from dog Man, you know. So is there an interdimensional
1:00:53
tide to dog Man? There definitely is, yes, Okay, well there,
1:00:59
okay, So there's an instance. There's There was an incident down in
1:01:02
Bradenton, Florida, about three years ago, I believe, and I remember
1:01:07
seeing this all over the kind of on social media. It was on YouTube
1:01:09
and there was a gentleman down there who he was live streaming on Facebook and
1:01:16
he was he said that he had seen something creepy and freaky in his garden
1:01:21
behind his house down in Florida, and it was on a live stream.
1:01:24
They actually like, I don't have the actual video to show tonight, but
1:01:28
I did take some screenshots of this, and you can't really tell what it
1:01:31
is by the screenshots, and it's a red circle. I don't like red
1:01:36
circles very much, but we're going to show a red circle tonight because you
1:01:38
wouldn't be able to tell where it was otherwise. There's something that it kind
1:01:44
of as he's live streaming on Facebook, he opens up his back door after
1:01:50
he was already scared because he had seen something back there earlier. But he
1:01:52
opens it up and it looks like if you watch the video, and it
1:01:57
is you just look up on YouTube if y'all want to watch the video,
1:01:59
it's it's Bradenton, Florida dog man in the backyard or something like that.
1:02:05
But it looks like it's a dog man phasing in kind of it's almost like
1:02:09
holographic looking kind of, And it might have just been the phone quality.
1:02:13
Okay, ye could have been. It could have been the phone quality.
1:02:17
But it did kind of look like a dog man. It looked like something
1:02:21
on two legs, and it didn't look human. Well, I mean,
1:02:23
that would explain why we don't get queer pictures of dog man. You ever
1:02:27
noticed that whenever somebody tries to take a photo, it's blurry, you know,
1:02:30
So if they're interdimensional, it only makes sense that their vibration is higher
1:02:34
than ours, and it's probably something that our cameras can't quite capture because of
1:02:37
energy vibration. Oh, yeah, that's a good point. That it's a
1:02:42
great point. Yeah. So, but but when when i've I've heard you
1:02:45
talk about interdimensional dog man potentially, And we even have a gentleman that's on
1:02:50
our research team, Tony has talked. He's told me about time he came
1:02:54
on my show actually, and he talked about the time that his uncle ran
1:02:59
ran out in the house. He was running from the cops of all things,
1:03:04
and uh, he ran out and and the family saw him go behind
1:03:07
a tree and he was running out towards the woods. And as he passed
1:03:09
this large I think it was an oak tree. Out the other side,
1:03:14
came a wolf, a big dog, oh, and ran into the woods.
1:03:19
And then when the cops left, it waited till the cops left,
1:03:22
and then it ran back out of the woods. It was a dog on
1:03:25
four legs. And then when it when it ran behind the tree, it
1:03:28
came out. His uncle, His uncle, his uncle came out. Let
1:03:31
me rephrase that. But but I think that there's some some like black magic
1:03:37
involved in that somehow, and which ties into the natal Luci and all these
1:03:42
other shape shifters, right, yep. See that's what I'm saying. You
1:03:45
pull those little strings and you can see that these little strings are connected to
1:03:47
one thing and another thing, and you're just pulling them out going Okay,
1:03:51
another question, another question, another question. Yeah, it's all connected.
1:03:55
Uh and I do believe that that is. Yeah, it's just shape shifter,
1:04:00
but it's black magic and it's got to do with could be blood rituals
1:04:02
and stuff too. I don't know. I don't. I don't think you're
1:04:04
doing a blood ritual at the moment, but if if it's something that was
1:04:09
in the family that he'd done, you know, yeah, you never know.
1:04:14
I mean, people can do some pretty dark things, you know.
1:04:17
That's right, That's right, they can. Uh. Well, I'm trying
1:04:20
to stay you know, clean and clear and not not do anything crazy.
1:04:26
But I do like talking about this stuff because I need to know. I
1:04:29
need to know, like what the dangers are when I'm out there. Uh.
1:04:33
And I and also let me say, what do I just saw my
1:04:38
buddy right here. This is Drew Ski from Cryptid Warfare podcast. You guys
1:04:41
go subscribe to them as well, and he's he's the one that invited me
1:04:45
up to Maine. This week. It's not this week. We're not going
1:04:48
this week. Uh but yeah, it's it's it's coming up, and it's
1:04:53
going to be when it's cold. By the way, it's going to have
1:04:57
to be there. It wouldn't be there, right, really really careful,
1:05:00
I mean I can't emphasize that enough. Be super careful. Okay, Well,
1:05:05
we're always careful, yes, we we We take measures to protect ourselves
1:05:10
and and his his crew of guys. They do a lot of training.
1:05:14
Let's just say, o God to protect the whole team in myself. Yeah,
1:05:19
all right, Well this has been freaking amazing, Ryan, I will
1:05:24
back. Yeah, please come back and hang out with me again, and
1:05:28
definitely, Yeah, tell me what you got coming up. You have some
1:05:30
books that you've been working on. Yeah, I got the book that I'm
1:05:34
writing about the you know DOUCHI and they'll be writing a separate continuation where I
1:05:38
talk about the When to Go and I might you know, tack on the
1:05:42
Native American Sasquatch book there. But I'm possibly speaking at some conferences me and
1:05:46
you know John Steamy, and John mentioned a couple that he wants me to
1:05:48
speak at, so you know, that might be in the future. But
1:05:53
I'm going to keep doing different podcasts and you can find me on Facebook,
1:05:57
Instagram, Twitter. Just look up Ryan Paul Trembley and you'll find me and
1:06:00
hit me up. Add me up, hit me up. And I love
1:06:03
talking on the chatty box. When you get me started on Facebook or whatever,
1:06:06
I'll talk to your ear off about monsters, got Zola, dog man,
1:06:10
whatever you want. So hit me up. Don't be shy. Well
1:06:14
I'm gonna hit you up. Don't you worry you're gonna I'm gonna hit you
1:06:16
up to come back on the show soon, okay, and uh, and
1:06:18
we'll talk. I like to. I like to talk to if you can't
1:06:21
tell, Okay. So yeah, well this is awesome. My gosh.
1:06:26
I know the audience loved this tonight. I know I did too. We
1:06:29
had a great craft for my first Saturday night show here at the Cryptid Hunters
1:06:31
channel, so it was amazing. I hope you guys have a everybody has
1:06:36
a wonderful easter. Okay, anybody, everybody who celebrates, have a great
1:06:41
holiday tomorrow, and uh, and come back and see me. I'll be
1:06:44
back on air on Wednesday on a Glitch in the Matrix at one pm.
1:06:49
Okay, so we got shows. We got shows coming up. I got
1:06:53
a bunch of shows next week. Oh my gosh, thank you April and
1:06:57
Mojo too for this super Yes Man, I want to take everybody for all
1:07:03
the superstickers and the new channel members that we have. I mean, this
1:07:06
has just been and so amazing. You guys are the best, absolutely,
1:07:11
and I want to thank all the moderators that we're here tonight, and uh
1:07:14
and all of the all my Patreon members and my teammates. And Ryan,
1:07:17
you're the best, man, You're the best. All right. Okay,
1:07:21
Well, you guys when you when you get your books out come, you
1:07:25
got to definitely come back on the show and we'll promote. Okay, Well,
1:07:31
hopefully i'll see you at a conference soon. And uh, and you
1:07:33
guys, everybody have a wonderful night. I hope the Easter Bunny comes to
1:07:36
see you guys. I know he's coming to my house all right. All
1:07:42
right, Ryan, have a great night and we'll see y'all next week.
1:07:45
Bye bye, Maybe na time to be in many music movie Nae Press