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- 0:00Welcome back to Diplomacy and International Relations by
- 0:02Bastian Freiborg, the deep dive specifically designed to
- 0:06shortcut you straight to the heart of global politics.
- 0:09Today we're taking a bit of a different path.
- 0:11We're doing a deep structural analysis, really looking beyond
- 0:15that typical state centric view of international relations.
- 0:18Our mission is to really explore feminist international relations
- 0:22FIR and also post colonial theory.
- 0:25We want to show you how these ways of thinking reveal these,
- 0:29well, often invisible gendered and racial structures.
- 0:33Structures that shape pretty much everything right?
- 0:35War, diplomacy, the global economy.
- 0:37Exactly even how states present themselves today.
- 0:40OK, so let's unpack this a bit. Normally, when you study global
- 0:43politics, you often start with what's called a rationalist
- 0:45school. This idea that states are
- 0:47rational actors weighing costs and benefits based on material
- 0:51interests. You know, power, money.
- 0:54Cold, hard, rational choice. But FIR, it's part of a
- 0:59different camp, what we call the reflectivist approach.
- 1:01And that's a key difference. It really is, the reflectivist
- 1:05view argues, that state identities, their interests,
- 1:07they aren't just fixed. They're constantly being shaped,
- 1:10contested, changed through shared ideas, norms, history.
- 1:16So it's not just about tanks and trade deals.
- 1:17Not at all what a state believes itself to be its identity that's
- 1:21just as critical as its military might or its economic clout in
- 1:25figuring out why it does what it does.
- 1:27And FIR brings this really crucial question to the table,
- 1:30the one that kind of flips everything upside down.
- 1:32Yeah. It asks, how are our most basic
- 1:35concepts in IR, like war, security, even sovereignty?
- 1:39How are these things inherently gendered?
- 1:42And asking that question immediately highlights what
- 1:44critics call the fields. Well hand Oracle gender
- 1:47numbness. It just wasn't seeing it.
- 1:49To really get a handle on this, we probably have to start with
- 1:51Cynthia Enlow. Her book Bananas, Beaches and
- 1:53Bases Making Feminist Sense of International Politics.
- 1:57It's foundational. Absolutely, and the genius of it
- 1:59is really in her driving question, which sounds so
- 2:01simple. Where are the women?
- 2:03Just asking that forces you to look beyond the usual places,
- 2:06right beyond the state leaders in generals.
- 2:08Precisely. You have to look into the
- 2:10kitchens, the factories, the tourist spots, military bases,
- 2:14and those shows how gender makes the world go round.
- 2:16It's an organizing principle. The whole international system,
- 2:19politically and economically, is basically built on assumptions
- 2:22about gender and relies on gendered labor.
- 2:26Your big idea? The international is personal.
- 2:29That's it. It connects global structures to
- 2:31individual lives. And the example she uses really
- 2:35bring this home. They show how the global system
- 2:37actually depends on these gendered roles.
- 2:39Take tourism for instance. Huge global industry, right?
- 2:42Massive GDP contributor. But it runs on women filling
- 2:45very specific, often low paid gender jobs.
- 2:49Flight attendants, hotel maids, sometimes even sex workers.
- 2:52They're the hidden machinery keeping that global economy
- 2:56humming. And it's not just the economy.
- 2:57Look at security like military bases and Low points out that
- 3:01these huge symbols of state power, they don't function
- 3:04efficiently without women in supporting often subjugated
- 3:07roles. Yeah, you mentioned things like
- 3:08base prostitutes, the horrific example of Japanese comfort
- 3:11women during World War 2. Exactly, but it also includes
- 3:14roles like the good military wife.
- 3:16That one's so telling because it's not just about low wage
- 3:19work, it's often about an educated, created partner,
- 3:22usually a woman having to put her own career, her own
- 3:25ambitions on hold. For the sake of the state's
- 3:28military readiness, it's an unseen contribution to national
- 3:31security, framed as personal choice or duty.
- 3:34And this gendered lens also changes how we look at war
- 3:38itself. You mentioned Laura Stroberg,
- 3:40Carol Cone. Right.
- 3:41They show how deeply war is associated with masculinity, and
- 3:45that has real consequences. Think about it.
- 3:47Women have always fought in wars, but historically they're
- 3:50often rendered invisible. Or if they are seen, their role
- 3:54gets qualified. You don't just hear soldiers,
- 3:56you hear women soldiers. Like it's an exception.
- 3:58Exactly. And notice the flip side.
- 4:00How often do war stories focus on men as civilian victims that
- 4:04label civilian victim? It's almost always reserved for
- 4:07women and children. Which shapes who we see as
- 4:09legitimate actors or legitimate sufferers in conflict.
- 4:13It matters. It absolutely matters.
- 4:15And this brings up a really important point for policy
- 4:18today. Feminist anti militarists argue
- 4:21that if military strength is so tied up with ideas of
- 4:23masculinity. Then things like disarmament,
- 4:26arms control can feel like emasculation, like a threat to
- 4:29the state's identity. Precisely so.
- 4:32They argue that part of the reason militarism persists, why
- 4:35it's so hard to get rid of weapons of mass destruction, is
- 4:38tied to these deeply ingrained gendered ideas about what makes
- 4:42a state strong or weak. It's a huge barrier to peace.
- 4:45OK, so we've seen how gender is this key organizing principle
- 4:49often hidden in security and economics.
- 4:52But we need to broaden the lens further, right?
- 4:54This is where post colonial theory comes in.
- 4:56Yes, it gives us the tools to understand how race and the
- 4:59legacies of colonialism continue to structure global power,
- 5:02especially the dominance of the West.
- 5:04And you really have to start with Edward Syed's concept of
- 5:07Orientalism. Orientalism.
- 5:08It sounds academic, but it's much more than that.
- 5:11Oh, definitely, Said defined it not just as a field of study,
- 5:14but as a whole Western style for dominating restructuring and
- 5:18having authority over the Orient.
- 5:20It's about creating the East as fundamentally other.
- 5:23And the purpose is power. Cultural and political
- 5:26supremacy. Yes, it works by creating and
- 5:29repeating stereotypes. The audience, as exotic,
- 5:32irrational, inferior may be needing to be saved or
- 5:36controlled. So it's a way of using
- 5:38knowledge, even academic knowledge, to justify and
- 5:41maintain Western political power.
- 5:43Exactly, it's a discourse of power and this connects directly
- 5:46back to feminist critiques, especially when we look at some
- 5:49key figures and anti colonial thought like France Phnon.
- 5:52Fanon is huge in post colonial studies.
- 5:54Black skin, White masks, the witches of the earth.
- 5:57Massively influential text about colonial trauma liberation.
- 6:01Educational, Absolutely. But his work has also come under
- 6:04scrutiny from an intersectional feminist perspective.
- 6:06Why? Because the language,
- 6:08particularly in the original French, is overwhelmingly
- 6:11masculine. He uses Illinois Lom he man when
- 6:14talking about the colonized subject, the natives or the
- 6:17Negro. So women are just absent from
- 6:19the picture? Largely, yes.
- 6:21The critique is that his analysis of the colonizer
- 6:24colonized dynamic focuses almost entirely on the male experience.
- 6:28This effectively erases the specific experiences of black
- 6:32women who face oppression based on both race and gender.
- 6:35That double marginalization. And critics point to some pretty
- 6:39specific problematic parts, right?
- 6:41Like Fannin suggesting black men desire white women partly to
- 6:46feel dominant over a European woman.
- 6:49Yes, and perhaps even more damningly, when asked directly
- 6:52about the psychosexuality of women of color, he apparently
- 6:56admitted quite bluntly. I know nothing about her.
- 6:58Wow, that's quite an admission. It really makes you question who
- 7:01that liberation struggle was envisioned for.
- 7:03It does, but, and it's important, it doesn't mean we
- 7:05throw Fanon out entirely. Right.
- 7:06So how do scholars reconcile this?
- 7:09Well, thinkers like Chandra Talpade Mahanti argue that even
- 7:11with its masculinous biases, fanon score idea of
- 7:15decolonization is still incredibly valuable.
- 7:17His insistence that true decolonization requires these
- 7:20deep, profound changes in the self, in the community, and how
- 7:23we govern. That comprehensive scope is
- 7:25actually useful for a feminist decolonizing project.
- 7:28Exactly. It provides A framework for
- 7:30thinking about transformation at all levels, which leads us
- 7:33naturally to post colonial feminism itself.
- 7:36Which challenges mainstream Western feminism for sometimes
- 7:39being well blind to its own biases.
- 7:41Precisely for being ethnocentric, for assuming a
- 7:45universal woman's experience that often centers white Western
- 7:49women, postcolonial feminism insists we must look at the
- 7:52intersections. Gender, race, class,
- 7:55nationality, Liberation looks different depending on where you
- 7:58stand. OK, this brings us right up to
- 8:00the present day and how these ideas play out in actual foreign
- 8:04policy. We're talking about feminist
- 8:05foreign policies, or FFPS. Right.
- 8:08We've seen several countries adopt them like Sweden
- 8:10initially, then Canada, France, Mexico, others often starting
- 8:14around the mid twenty 10s. They usually focus on things
- 8:16like gender mainstreaming and Aid and Development.
- 8:19But as. Soon as FFP becomes official
- 8:20policy, the critiques start rolling in, don't they, about
- 8:23the gap between the rhetoric and the reality.
- 8:25Immediately, one common critique is that these policies can
- 8:29sometimes reinforce stereotypes, portraying women mainly as
- 8:32victims, as weak or inherently peaceful figures needing
- 8:36protection. And they often struggle to
- 8:38include LGBTQ plus or gender non conforming people properly.
- 8:41That's another major gap. But perhaps the sharpest
- 8:44critique challenges the sincerity of FFP.
- 8:47How can a state champion feminist principles in its aid
- 8:50budget while, say, simultaneously selling billions
- 8:54of dollars in weapons to regimes involved in conflicts that
- 8:56disproportionately harm women? That's a massive contradiction,
- 8:59yeah. Which leads us to a really stark
- 9:01case study. France, specifically how France
- 9:05handled the terrible allegations of sexual exploitation and abuse
- 9:08SEA by its peacekeepers in the Central African Republic back in
- 9:1120/14/2015. Yes, this was a huge crisis for
- 9:14France. As AP5 member of the UN Security
- 9:16Council, its reputation was on the line.
- 9:18So how did FFP fit into their response?
- 9:21Well, the analysis suggests it was used strategically.
- 9:24French diplomats essentially acted as embodied brand
- 9:27ambassadors. They leaned into FFP and
- 9:29feminist diplomacy, but primarily as a short term damage
- 9:32control exercise. To fix the R problem.
- 9:35Largely yes, to limit the reputational hit and reassert
- 9:39Francis status. The underlying issue, though, is
- 9:42that Frances broader nation branding its long term image
- 9:45projection still tends to follow what critics call a masculine,
- 9:50white supremacist neoliberal logic.
- 9:52How did that play out in the Khayar situation?
- 9:55They managed the narrative very carefully.
- 9:57They kind of downplayed their own accountability failures by
- 10:00resurrecting old colonial tropes, portraying Khayar as
- 10:03this chaotic place on fire, desperately needing French
- 10:07intervention, French salvation. Shifting the blame, essentially.
- 10:10And shifting the focus, they highlighted France's role in
- 10:13fighting sexual violence committed by other groups, like
- 10:16violent extremist groups, positioning France as the
- 10:19solution, not part of the problem.
- 10:21And the Made in France feminist diplomacy under Macron.
- 10:25That reinforced this branding. It drew heavily on France's long
- 10:28history of, well, predominantly white feminist thought.
- 10:32Critics argue this sidelined the voices of black French feminists
- 10:36who are pointing out systemic issues within France itself.
- 10:39It projected this image of France as the enlightened,
- 10:42powerful white male protector on the world stage.
- 10:46And the most devastating part of this focus on reputation.
- 10:49The outcomes for the victims French courts eventually
- 10:52dismissed the say our abuse cases, citing lack of evidence.
- 10:55And at least according to the sources we reviewed, the French
- 10:58government hadn't actually contributed to the UN trust fund
- 11:01set up for SE victims by that. Point So managing the brand took
- 11:04precedence over accountability and supporting survivors.
- 11:07It certainly appears that way. Reputational management and
- 11:10geopolitical status seem to be the priority.
- 11:12Wow. OK.
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- 11:33So after all this, what's the big take away for our listeners?
- 11:37I think the crucial thing FIR and post colonial critique force
- 11:41us to see is that international politics isn't just about what
- 11:45happens between states. The treaties, the wars, the
- 11:48trade. It's fundamentally shaped by
- 11:50these deep, often unseen, gendered and racialized
- 11:54structures. Structures that decide who has
- 11:56power, who counts as important, whose security matters, and even
- 11:59whose story gets told. Exactly.
- 12:01And understanding that is absolutely vital if you want to
- 12:04make sense of global power dynamics today.
- 12:06Which leaves us with a final thought, Something for you to
- 12:08Mull over, given that states, as we saw with France, are
- 12:12increasingly using feminist foreign policy as, let's be
- 12:15frank, a branding tool. A form of reputational
- 12:18management. Yeah, how can we actually tell
- 12:20the difference? How do you distinguish between
- 12:23genuine policy shifts driven by real feminist understanding and
- 12:27commitment, and this more superficial feminist diplomacy
- 12:31that's really just about boosting a country's image in
- 12:33geopolitical standing? That's the $1,000,000 question.
- 12:36Isn't it a really complex one for a complex world?
- 12:39It definitely is. Thank you for joining us for
- 12:41this deep dive into FIR and post colonial thought.
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